EDIT: I have a Jinbei EF II 60 (with the EF-RC remote) for sale if you've been trying to get ahold of one. DM me on Instagram @newlayercom if you want it! People keep asking how long batteries last on this light, so instead of copying and pasting a reply each time, I'll put it here for reference. It depends since there are many capacities of NP-F batteries. I'd say NP-F750 are the most popular, and a pair of those would be 8800mAh. This light uses 60 watts at full power. To get watt/hours from mAh, you take 8800 and multiply it by the voltage of the batteries, which is 7.2, then divide by 1,000. (8800 x 7.2)/1000 = 63.36 watt hours of capacity in the batteries. Batteries are usually around 85% efficient, so take 63.36 x 0.85 and we get ~54 watt hours. Then you divide that by the wattage of the light at 100% (which is 60). 54 watt hours/60 watts = 0.9 hours or 54 minutes. If you used high capacity 7800mAh NP-F950 batteries, you'd get around 1.6 hours of use.
I have this light and it blows me away how good it is for the value! easily works great with my Aputure Lanturn. Still makes no sense how no other company has put npf batteries mounted to the light itself. planning on making a review. Dont hesitate on this light its the best COB 60watt budget Led light on the market!
It's really a killer light for the price. I wish the build quality was better, but that's about it! The new Jinbei lights I have (that I'll review soon) have great build quality, so they've definitely stepped things up. The Godox ML60, Nanlite Forza 60, and Aputure 60d/60x all support NP-F batteries, but through a separate battery plate. The Came-TV Boltzen and a few other "spotlight" style lights also use NP-F, but nothing that's a full-fledged COB like this one. It's a shame they have been struggling to keep up with demand so much.
@@NewLayer well said, i checked the catalog in jinbei website and no new 60watt led, even the site said jinbei ef ii 60w was sold out. If so, which one should i take, godox sl150w ii, aputure amaran 100 d, or the new jinbei 150 product? I assume that they have acceptably silent fan noise and even in my country the prices of them are slightly similar. I hope your advice that can help me choose the right one. While mostly i will use the light for close up shot and overhead-like tutorial, I hope someday I also want to shoot slow mo product, that’s why I think 60watt led is not enough. Btw this will be my first purchase on cob light and I hope i choose the right one.
@@somenbi264 The SL150W II is still probably my choice. It has great build, quiet fan, is bright, and has "fan off" mode for when silence is the most important. Hope that helps :)
Nice video! I'm looking to buy a new light and here where i live this and the godox sl-60 are the only ones that are viable, but this have so fewer reviews that I was scared about buying It. Glad that you did this one!
Great review! I got this light when it first came out as I was looking for a more compact, lighter, battery powered light for accent and hair on a boom stand. I was stunned when it out powered my Godox SL60's which were kinda heavy for the task. Dual battery life is slightly over an hour. Outdoor shadow fill has been exceptional. Run and gun lighting has been taken to a new level with this baby, no wonder you can't easily find them online anymore.
If the build quality was a bit better, they’d hands down be the best I think. They won’t break unless you drop them, but they still have a budget feel. Great lights!!!
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Apart from the biggest downsides of not coming with a case, and the lower end build quality, it really is a pretty darn good light, especially for the money.
@@NewLayer absolutely will do! Also I am working on a podcast series interviewing filmmakers that I have worked with as well as content creators chatting about our love of gear and what got them started in tech. If interested would be great go get you on an episode in the next month or so.
@@ReachFilms That sounds awesome! Would you mind DMing me on Instagram @newlayercom? Or jump into my new Discord server: discord.gg/bYZSNh We chat about gear and UA-cam and filmmaking all the time. Some good connections to be made there :)
Very good review. The color accuracy and brightness are excellent selling points on their own. As far as soft boxes go, I've gone as far as throwing a t-shirt over the reflector to avoid setting up a soft box. Or you could even hang a shower curtain in front of the light to help soften it. The ability to use NP batteries on top of the light is also a very good feature. At the moment, I'm focusing on getting lenses. But, this is definitely a possible purchase in the near future.
Thanks! And shower curtains/liners, the original DIY diffusion screen :) Nowadays you can get diffusion cloth for cheaper, but we've all been there, hehe.
thanks for sharing amazing video. Please consider doing the videos without the music. We come to your videos for your good reviews coz u do a good job at it. Cheers mate!
Great review and light! Also great tip on the softbox although I can’t find its availability. @4:13 was this an example of the yokes maximum angle adjustment? Because that is limiting. Also besides this, does it feel cheap and wobbly when adjusting like it could break? Lastly, does that reflector cut out for the umbrella pass through affect the even light spread when just using the reflector dish?
Sorry I forgot the softbox link. I added that to the description: geni.us/laofas28 The angle adjustment goes way farther than that, I was just showing how the mechanism worked, which is just like the Godox SL60W. The reflector cut out does let a little light out, so you'd have to tape over it or something. That's a good point, although other lights have that cut out, you have to punch that piece out first, so if you don't use umbrellas, you have a fully closed reflector by default. Again, a super tiny thing, but worth knowing.
@@NewLayer well pretty impressive by the size, very Very silent. Wiith indirect lighting I can quickly achieve beautiful even light, without hotspots. I would have loved that it worked with only one np-f though and came with a case 😂 But for the price man I'm so happy.. just got to get some modifiers
I think I found the perfect budget light that meets my needs. I currently have cametv 55w but need another unit with native bowens mount, has npf battery ability and still compact lightweight for events.
I use the Sony a7S III in everything now. Here’s my camera gear for 2021 video ua-cam.com/video/4juOPwIuJsg/v-deo.html And here’s a video on the light I use for Amy talking head stuff: ua-cam.com/video/cc6wD-PrzMQ/v-deo.html
It depends on the batteries since there are many capacities of NP-F batteries. I'd say NP-F750 are the most popular, and a pair of those would be 8800mAh. This light uses 60 watts (give or take) at full power. To get watt/hours from mAh, you take 8800 and multiply it by the voltage of the batteries, which is 7.2, then divide by 1,000. (8800 x 7.2)/1000 = 63.36 watt hours of capacity in the batteries. Batteries are usually around 85% efficiency, so take 63.36 x 0.85 and we get ~54 watt hours. Then you divide that by the wattage of the light at 100% (which is 60). 54 watt hours/60 watts = .9 hours or 54 minutes. If you used high capacity 10,050mAh NP-F950 batteries, you'd get just over 2 hours at 100% brightness. I hope that helps :)
update: after a non-stop problems with np batteries (sometimes work with this light sometimes not... lottery), very cheap clamp problems, light just died day ago... maybe after a 25-30 total hours of use...
Dang, sorry to hear that. Thanks for sharing so people have a broader view of these lights. Did you get in touch with Jinbei? www.goldenshell.com.cn is their website. If you say you found it through my video they may be slightly more likely to replace it, if you weren't planning to already.
@@NewLayer you will not believe me.. I went to this webpage, and there is only one "contact" folder where it says: Online Message So I filled everything out, wrote the message. As I clicked on "send" - there is allways error coming: "fill out the correct phone number" which I did 30 times with different combinations.. with +... with 00, with spaces etc no way! you can not type "correct" phone number! no matter what so: YOU CAN NOT SEND THEM A MESSAGE, don't know if they doing that on purpose or what... but thats a pitty... you can try it if want... 😥
Nice! It's a Pergear aluminum mini/gimbal tripod: geni.us/pergeargimbaltripod You also need a spigot adapter set to put lights on tripods like this: geni.us/spigotadapterkit
NP-F batteries come in all sizes, so it depends. You can get anywhere from 20-90+ minutes depending on which batteries you buy. I've had good luck with GVM batteries when it comes to budget options. I would get at least 4400mAh for something like this geni.us/gvmnpf750 but 6600mAh is even better/lasts longer geni.us/gvmdualnpfvmount
Hi man, thanks for in depth review about this product, super helpful. For someone who want more power, did you check the EF II 100 ? It looks like they have no battery mount? and most importantly, whats the additional Lux and CR/TLCI rating?
You're welcome, thanks for checking it out. I haven't used the EF II 100, but I just got the EFII-200 and the EF-200Bi. The EF-200Bi has an XLR input for battery power via v-mount, but the EFII-200 does not. Sounds like the EFII-100 does not either. Usuaully, going from 60 to 100 watts will be about 1/3 to 1/2 stop greater brightness. I'll be reviewing the 200s as soon as I can.
Super interesting to find video about this lamp because it seems like it's a OEM product and the exact same one is also sold under the name 'GlareOne 600D' in Poland for 25$ more than Godox.
OK, I picked up a couple of these lights to try out. I was hoping to use them as a bright outdoor source in shady or night time conditions. And they are bright enough. The problem is that all of my largest NP-F batteries (970s) can power these lights for no more than 3 minutes at 100% power. My batteries are decent cells, and one of them will power a CameTV Boltzen 55W spot for 45 minutes at 100%. I didn't try them at lower than 100% power because I'll need all of those 60W for my use outdoors. So back to Amazon they go. Your mileage may vary.
Rick, something is very wrong if you're only getting 3 minutes at 100% power. All signs point to batteries if the same thing is happening with both Jinbei lights, so I would definitely borrow some other batteries for testing. NP-Fs (like all batteries) do have a lifespan, and I would suspect they are not producing high enough voltage any more, so will work with some lights, but not others. Even if they are new, there is a huge variation in battery quality, even from "higher end" brands, and some don't produce high enough amperage for something that is 60 watts. Manufacturers don't worry about it most of the time because it's very rare people use them for such powerful lights, so no harm no foul in those cases. But in your case... NP-F 970s are usually 6300mAh, so 2 are 12,600mAh. Multiply 12,600 x 7.4 volts and you have ~93Wh, meaning you should be able to power a 93 watt device for 1 hour (or a 60 watt device like this light for 1 hour and 33 minutes). Even if they are 7.2V, they'd be 90Wh. Let me know if you're able to test other batteries, because it's highly unlikely to be a problem with the lights.
@@NewLayer , all good advice, except that one of these same batteries power my CameTV Boltzen 55W lights at full power for about 45 minutes. And I've tried multiple batteries. I usually go with the DSTE batteries because they work well and have good recommendations online. Did you do a power test with your own NP-F batteries? Do you have a recommended battery brand? Thanks for any help you can provide. Love the channel!
@@GatesRick That's part of what I was getting at. Your CameTV Boltzen lights might be happy using not only less wattage, but a lower voltage. Regardless of wattage, the Jinbei lights may be more picky about voltage/voltage droop once their capacity drops below a certain point, which would cause the issues you mentioned. That's my educated guess based on the fact that it happens with both Jinbei lights. You'd have to test the actually battery voltage etc to know for sure, which is definitely annoying. I have a bunch of GVM batteries, some of which came with lights, some I bought, but they've always worked in all my NP-F devices: geni.us/gvmnpf750 I also ran my Jinbei for ~45 minutes with two 750s before I turned it off myself . I hope that helps, and maybe solves the mystery here!
@@NewLayer @Rick Gates This might actually be a thing with Jinbei lights though. I saw a video about the first version of the Jinbei EF 60 where someone has the same problem that all his batteries don’t work with it. ua-cam.com/video/mNsPewprlJ8/v-deo.html Maybe they need a higher voltage than most other lights or something.
@@fjodorf7341 Thanks for sharing. Obviously that's the version 1, but I have to think that the Jinbei lights must be strict on requiring ATCUAL 7.4V, and some batteries simply don't live up to their listed voltage, then suffer from voltage droop after being drained a bit.
Wow came in quick with this review. One question would be the reliability compared to traditional cob led lights with that new generation battery input. The Chinese usually share? technologies so it's easy to see which lights are similar. But this is a new one
Glad you liked seeing it. And yes, Jinbei is new in the US, but I believe they've been around for a while in China and have great ratings on Alibaba/Aliexpress. Longevity is definitely a question though, but I also think most people buying budget lights like this don't use them enough to kill them before buying a new one :)
@@NewLayer I guess there's a company out there that makes it and others whitelabel the product. Well just in case you're interested and maybe want to try out some of Rollei's lights, here's a link to their site: www.rollei.de/en/collections/led-dauerlicht I don't work for Rollei, but there's just not that many reviews to some of their lights on UA-cam, although the products seem pretty good.
@@roberto-maddaloni Yep! I believe Jinbei is the manufacturer and then licenses their designs out for re-branding. Thanks for the link, I'll check them out!
It’s a great light for the price. The build quality is much lower than something like the Godox ML60, and it doesn’t come with a carrying case. It also doesn’t have a battery level indicator, but it does have a native Bowens mount. The fan is louder but should still be fine, and finally, the main thing is that it can be hard to find in stock!
@@SHVideografie If you can afford it, I would get the ML60. The only thing the Jinbei has over it is price and the native Bowens mount. But... the more I use the ML60 and Forza 60, the more I like using them with their native mounts, not Bowens accessories. The Godox mount stuff is super inexpensive and light weight, and you can still get pretty big softboxes. Check out my ML60 video if you haven't already ua-cam.com/video/GHiMqZ9oiQM/v-deo.html
@@SHVideografie It just depends on your needs. Smaller is more portable, bigger is softer light. These are my favorites: geni.us/glowgodoxads85 or the Godox version geni.us/godoxads85s geni.us/glowgodoxads65 or the Godox version geni.us/godoxads65s Some are out of stock or harder to get, so any of those are great.
Seriously considered it after watching your review, but Amazon says they don't know if/when it will be available again. So, I went with the Godox SL60W. I'll have to use my Intefit Nomad battery pack when I travel outside the studio.
Hey man, I bought this light about a year ago after seeing this review. Loved the light for the portability and the battery component. Recently, the batteries don't seem to power the light on, only AC. Can't seem to contact jinbei through B&H regarding warranty. I already own a lot of NF batteries, and was wondering what your advice is? Is there a comparable product now? Or shoud I try and figure out the issue.
Sorry to hear that. These lights seem to be picky with batteries, so anything that's even slightly undervolted stops working, but works on everything else. There are a few NP-F compatible options out there now. The Nanlite Forza 60 and Godox ML60, both of which I reviewed. I also have a video coming out tomorrow that may be the perfect fit for you, so make sure to check that out :) Feel free to reach on on Insta @newlayercom if you have more questions tomorrow.
@@NewLayer thanks for the quick reply. Yes, I did notice I have to swap batteries in and out to get them working sometimes. Maybe a power bank might be the way to go. I'll be sure to tune in tomorrow!
Wow, never heard of this light. Seems to be hard to get over here in England. Seems like a really strong option, I have to say. I think the Sokani has it beat on special features, though, which is something I personally value a lot with lights and wish more lights at those price points would have it.
Hi! Do you still have this light? I'm thinking of buying one, but no one made a video of a year after review... I wonder if it is durable. Thanks for your high quality reviews. (=
Sorry I no longer have this one. I owned it for a few months and it worked the whole time, but if you're looking for someone who used it a lot for an extended period of time, unfortunately I can't help.
It depends on your needs I'd say. If you NEED to use 36"-48" modifiers, you might want the Godox because the build quality is a bit better. The Jinbei EF II 60 can still handle 36" modifiers, I just don't know if you'd regularly want to use anything bigger. Apart from that, the Jinbei is superior in brightness, color accuracy, has a quieter fan, and of course has NP-F battery support, which is awesome. Once you can go cordless with your lights, it's extra annoying to go back. Those would be the deciding factors for me, and is why I recommended the 28" LAOFAS softbox for the Jinbei light. I think that's more than enough for many people. For example, all of my talking head videos are made with just a 24" softbox, so 24-36" is completely adequate for a lot of styles of video. Hope that helps :)
For my talking head setup in my office, the Intellytech LC-160RGBW II, but for very specific reasons you can see in this video: ua-cam.com/video/q08F5Aerasw/v-deo.html For my b-roll in my "studio", I use the Godox SL150W II, because I need the 150 watt brightness, and I like that it's just the head unit and a cord with not external extras like the Godox VL series: geni.us/godoxsl150wii I use DigitalFoto RGB Chameleon Tubes (4') for my back lights in the studio space too: geni.us/dfchameleon4 They are essentially identical to the Nanlite Pavotubes (geni.us/nanlitepavotube) for a little less money, and I've been happy with mine.
@@pauldittus4587 It just depends on what you're shooting and how close you can get the light. I used a 48" beauty dish for a while on my videos, then dropped all the way to a 24" softbox, and no one ever noticed, haha. I moved the 24" softbox a little closer than I had the 48", but it was plenty soft. If you're trying to light a full body, then that's when you're better off with a bigger softbox, but for head and shoulders or headshots, a 28" can produce great results. This 34" Glow collapsible beauty dish would be another great option because it's less deep, so it's less leverage on the light yoke: geni.us/glowbeautydish34silver
Haha, thanks. And I agree, it may not be perfect, but semi-quiet fan, great light quality and brightness, and NP-F support make it a solid contender for any beginner.
Thanks for the breakdown! Looks like this light is already hard to come by here in early 2021. Would this work as a key light for a studio the size of yours? Or would you recommend something like the Weeylite Ninja 400 instead?
You're welcome. I don't want to say it's my fault, but ever since this video it's been out of stock a lot, LOL. This light, and other 60 watt lights, work well as key lights for talking head videos indoors. I used a Forza 60 at only 35% brightness for a while and it worked great. The Ninja 400 is great if you ever need to balance light color with other ambient light. I have a Ninja 400 for sale for a good deal if you're interested. DM me on Instagram @newlayercom if so!
@@NewLayer You influencer, you! Thanks for the reply. There is a new version of the Godox SL-60W with a Softbox Grid Kit that looks like it could be a good 60 watt key light for pairing with my M-50 and Rode VideoMic for my indoor talking head videos.
Liked the video and will test the light... Can you please let us know which stand you have it mounted on in your video. seems to fold into a decent grip for handholding the light?
Greetings New Layer from New Zealand and thank you for a great review of this light , I was wondering how this light now compares to the godox ML60 .Here in NZ the ML60 is around $130NZD more than the Jinbei so I would be really keen to hear your thoughts on the two .Thanks heaps for taking the time to reply .
I did a full review on the ML60 here: ua-cam.com/video/GHiMqZ9oiQM/v-deo.html It's smaller, better built, quieter fan, and comes with a case. It also has a battery grip rather than slots in the head for the batteries. Lastly, the ML60 is not a Bowens mount, so you'll need to use Godox mount modifiers (which are cheap, lightweight, and plentiful) or use the Godox S2 Bowens adapter. Hope that helps.
Thanks for the video, this light is very interesting, what do you think in comparison with the sokani x60, the sokani is much brighter? excuse my english i am italian :)
The Sokani is technically 40 lux dimmer at 3000 vs the Jinbei 3040 lux, but that is basically nothing at all. The Sokani X60 has a louder fan, has an external AC adapter, and lower light quality. It has a better build quality on the body, and has built in effects. The Sokani X60 comes with a nice carrying case, but obviously doesn't support NP-F batteries. You can compare all the stats here: newlayer.com/gear/lights/compare?light1=Jinbei+EF+II+60&light2=Sokani+X60
@@NewLayer Thank you, the brightness is pretty much the same if I understand correctly...as far as the batteries are concerned the Sokani can be powered with a v-mount battery with an adapter cable as I saw on UA-cam ( ua-cam.com/video/0-_CpNfeYO8/v-deo.html )...but the jimbei has a better quality of light and is less noisy and native batteries support, I think I will opt for this spotlight thanks a lot...
@@michelangelodefranchis5374You are correct! Any light with a barrel adapter can be powered by v-mount batteries with a d-tap to barrel cable, plus you'll need an adapter to mount the v-mount to your light stand. If you're going to go through all that trouble, I would just buy a Godox VL150 that allows you to mount the v-mount battery directly on the controller. The Jinbei EF II 60 is definitely the most simple battery-powered COB LED available, and has all the great things about it you mentioned.
@@berni2574 I have tested the V1 and V2, and plan to make a quick comparison of the changes as soon as possible. The V2 is definitely quieter than the V1, and quieter than the Godox SL60W and the Jinbei EF II 60. It also has a Rosette style angle adjustment on the mounting yoke, and longer power cables. Hope that helps :)
I won't be making a video specific to comparing those lights, but you can compare all the measured brightness/color accuracy at least here: newlayer.com/gear/lights/compare?light1=Jinbei+EF+II+60&light2=Nanlite+Forza+60 Let me know if you have any other specific questions.
Absolutely! I’m planning to do a review on the godox sl 200w (the mark I) and I want to compare on the paper with the second generation. But because I don’t have the light I’m thinking to use your amazing b-roll of that light. Can I used in my video? Of corse I insert the credit to your channel!
@@alessandro.petracci Sounds great, I have an SL200W II on the way to me right now, but I don't have the SL200W original. Unfortunately, I cannot give permission to reuse my B-roll in your videos to avoid issues with copyright claims etc. with UA-cam.
New Layer oh I’m sad to read this because I see all the time youtuber that quote other videos. Are you sure of that? I want to write your name in every images that I take from your video..
Unfortunately it's simply not a good idea. UA-cam has systems in place that find duplicate sections of content, and if I let other people use my footage, I run the risk of my videos being taken down, even temporarily. Other creators probably aren't aware of this, don't care, or the footage is taken without permission (even if someone gives credit). On top of that, I would encourage you to create your own content from scratch rather than reusing other clips. Your videos will be better, and your skills will increase more quickly, which will help you to grow your channel.
I bought this light. It arrived today. It's not that bright. And the fan is very noticeable. I'll try and put it in perspective. If you're using it for a subject in an interview, in other words someone not moving around a lot, it'll be fine because you can put the light near the subject and have the aperture on the camera lens wide open. However in the real world if you're a filmmaker, you're going to need at least f8 but more realistically f14 for a subject moving around a lot and keep them in focus. In a wide scene where the light needs to be around 3 meters away minimum then this light falls short in an epic way. You need a light that can light a room easily while at the same time allowing f14 at 100ISO. More power to turn down and fine tune is what's really needed but that can be a challenge.
You are right, 60 watt lights (in a soft box) will be limited. They are mostly useful as a key light from around 3-5 feet in a 24-36" softbox. At 100% brightness, they max out at around ISO 400, f/2.8-f/5.6 at 1/50 depending on the size and closeness of the softbox. The Jinbei EF II 60 is one of the brightest 60 watt lights (newlayer.com/gear/lights/compare?light1=Godox+SL60W&light2=Jinbei+EF+II+60) so it sounds like you may want at least a 150 watt light, which would give you around 1-1.5 stops more brightness. Even a 300 watt light will only give you 2-2.5 stops more brightness than 60 watt lights, so that would still fall well short of f/14 at 100 ISO, although, at that brightness your talent would be squinting because that's exactly as bright as high noon sunlight on a bright day, which is why most video cameras have native ISO of 400-1600. For lighting a whole room anywhere near that bright, you'd likely need 3+ 300 watt lights like the Godox VL300 or Aputure 300d II or the upcoming 600d, but even then, you'd like be shooting around ISO 400 and f/8. Hopefully my light tool can help you figure out what might be a good fit for you newlayer.com/gear/lights/compare A 36" softbox typically cuts 1.5-2 stops of light from the bare bulb measurements I have listed, and each time you double the distance, you only get 1/4 the output. Thanks for sharing your feedback.
@@NewLayer No one seems to be addressing the real elephant in the room with these lights. OK we've got some lights now. And yes they can knock out some serious lumens now. OK. Good.. Lets all give these companies a round of applause and a pat on the back. HOWEVER. There are no real efforts going into affordable portable power solutions. The new Aputure 600D requires 4 V lock batteries. And that battery station doesn't look cheap. I bet by the time you buy the batteries and the battery station you're into $1000. Plus the light. And how much mileage do you get out of those 4 batteries?? Even a 300watt uses 2 batteries and you get around 45 mins (So I'm told) . We need a more practical, realistic battery solution that doesn't cost more than your house. Lets start asking our light manufacturers to start and concentrate their efforts on batteries and battery stations that we can actually afford.
I think it has more to do with limitations of technology. LEDs are extremely efficient, and battery tech is as advanced as ever, so I don’t think there’s much more that can be done with efficiency using current tech. In my opinion the best solution is simply using multiple smaller lights. Yes, something like the Aputure 600d is very impressive, but you can get the same or better output with 2 Godox VL300, without the hassle of 26V batteries, which are uber expensive. Yes, v-mounts in general are very expensive, but unfortunately I don’t see any way around that, especially compared to how much they cost just 5 years ago.
Whoops 😬 I did a more recent review on the Genaray Portabright daylight and bi-color, so those are battery options with some differences. There's also the Nanlite Forza 60 and the upcoming Godox ML60, but those are a good bit more expensive. Hopefully Jinbei can get these things through production more quickly!
@@NewLayer Just an FYI if you haven't already bought a different one, I ordered mine from their website and is arriving today. It took around 5 days (to the UK)
Good question! I don't think I've ever seen a COB protector that is meant for use while the light is on. Any light with a cover over the COB uses glass or some special heat resistant material. If you find anything let me know!
awesome review !!! One of the best and straight to the point !! I have ONE question though: Does the fan noise lessens when you use the light at minimal power or does it stay on at full blast no matter the power output ?
Thanks, glad you liked it! The fan speed on this light is constant, so it runs the same speed and has the same volume no matter what brightness it’s set to.
I wanted to buy this light but they just went out of stock this week at my camera store so I called to ask when they'll restock and they said expectated stock at the end of august... LOL god damnit.
Haha. All too familiar of a story. Sorry. I’ve got some lights for sale and could give you a great deal if you’re in the US: www.gearfocus.com/newlayer.html
I used GVM, Jinbei, and some totally no name NP-F batteries with mine and they all worked. I did hear from some people that some batteries seemingly randomly didn't work. I think it's because this light is very strict on the required voltage, and some batteries don't actually put out what they say they do.
Where would I find something talking about the less known metrics you mentioned? I know color temp, lux and CRI, but not familiar with TLCI, TM30, Rf, Rg, and SSI?
On my Light Comparison Tool, you can click the small question marks next to each one to see a short description of how they work newlayer.com/gear/lights/compare I tried to make them as concise and simple as possible, so if you need more info, I’d just Google “TLCI color rendering” or something similar and check the first few results. Eventually I’ll make an in-depth video on this.
hey man, been reading reviews of thisone today. some say the batteries only work when fully charged, or it doesnt work properly when you turn it on and off with partially depleted batteries, have you observed any of this?
I have personally not had this issue, but it is most likely because of under voltage batteries + the light being strict on the required voltage. So you may have no issues like me, or might need to find the best batteries to use.
Hey man! Serious great overview on this light. Came across this video on my search for the perfect budget bowens mount video light for under $200. Im looking to use this with a cheap fresnel modifier as a background light for interview and such. Do you think this is a good option or would you recommend something different for a backlight?
Thanks, glad you liked it! This light is definitely bright enough for a background light since it's even bright enough as a key light in a softbox. The hardest thing about this light is finding one to buy! I've done a ton of other light reviews, so if you can't find one in stock anywhere, I'm sure one of the others would be a good fit. Perhaps a bi-color COB like the GVM G100W would fit your needs geni.us/gvmg100w It's normally $299 but I've seen it on sale closer to $200 a few times If you just need an inexpensive daylight COB, then the original SL60W is hard to beat for the price too geni.us/godoxsl60wled
Have you had a look at the PIXAPRO DAYLiTE60D MKII ? I do not expect this to be better than the Jinbei, but was just wondering if there was much difference
That's a clone of the Neewer 60 watt light (not SL60W), which I tried a long time ago before I had tools to measure output. The light itself was actually good and pretty quiet. Unfortunately I don't know the brightness, but if I had to guess it would've been around the same brightness as this light, maybe 1/3 stop dimmer.
They actually make a TON of products, but only certain ones seem to make it to the US market. I like what I see as their lights progress, so hopefully we'll see some more in the future :)
Ordered. I wanted a Godox SLB60, but it costs much more, and it has a proprietary battery (which doesn’t fit my AD600pro unfortunately). I surprised, that there is not much information about this light and Jinbei generally. They have bad marketing in Europe. Do they have any representatives in Europe? Where can someone service their products when needed?
Nice! Congrats on the purchase. Let me know how you like it when it arrives! The SLB60W never took off because it was so overpriced I think. The EFII 60 is better in every single way in my opinion, except for build quality. Jinbei's website is goldenshell.com.cn, and you can contact them there. I don't know much of anything about local reps though.
Thanks, glad you liked it. As far as battery life goes, here's my reply to someone else who asked about that: It depends on the batteries since there are many capacities of NP-F batteries. I'd say NP-F750 are the most popular, and a pair of those would be 8800mAh. This light uses 60 watts (give or take) at full power. To get watt/hours from mAh, you take 8800 and multiply it by the voltage of the batteries, which is 7.2, then divide by 1,000. (8800 x 7.2)/1000 = 63.36 watt hours of capacity in the batteries. Batteries are usually around 85% efficiency, so take 63.36 x 0.85 and we get ~54 watt hours. Then you divide that by the wattage of the light at 100% (which is 60). 54 watt hours/60 watts = 0.9 hours or 54 minutes. If you used high capacity 10,050mAh NP-F950 batteries, you'd get just over 2 hours at 100% brightness. I hope that helps :)
I just picked up this light (per your recommendation: thanks a bunch!), and I am confused as to what mount I need? Which are you using? Does the Jinbei need a 3/8" spigot?
Awesome! I hope you like it as much as I do. As far as a mount goes, what are you trying to mount it to? You should have no issues mounting this light to any lightstand. It has the same size mounting hole as every other COB LED light, so you should be good to go. Let me know if I misunderstood :)
@@NewLayer I ended up purchasing a lightstand that could mount the Jinbei. I asked prior to having the Jinbei in person and I just suspected that it would have used some other mounting convention! This has been one of my best budget purchases, thanks a ton 😉
@@プレイフルクラウド I'm so glad to hear you're liking it! I try my best to present unbiased videos so people can choose for themselves, partially so I don't feel guilty if they buy something and hate it, LOL.
If you're only doing photos, I would recommend strobes instead of continuous lights. They will be much brighter, which you need so you can shoot ISO 100 at small apertures like f/11-f/16 to get the sharpest possible images. If you REALLY want to use continuous lights, look at the Godox FV150 or FV200. I did a video on them here: ua-cam.com/video/XbzPndcSKbI/v-deo.html They are super bright continuous lights, but also have flash functionality that gives you about 2 full stops of extra brightness, so a good hybrid choice.
This is a copy of the Rollei Soluna II-60 LED so if the Jinbei is hard to get in your country, you could have a look at Rollei. Comparable is the Bresser BR-60S which is made of aluminium.
I could be wrong, but I believe Jinbei is the manufacturer, so the Rollei is a rebranding of that. The Bresser also looks identical to one of the 60 watt Neewer lights, and I think Neewer is the manufacturer as well. Not that I care about rebrands, Flashpoint is the Adorama house brand, but is simply Godox with different logos on them. All are great :)
@@NewLayer Jinbei, Rollei and Bresser 60 models are all €119 at the moment here in Europe. Bresser is the only one who states its light is made of aluminium, but I can't find the info that this is also true for the yoke, which is the weakest link in a light as you stated in this Jinbei review. Unfortunately, the Bresser doesn't come with a reflector. I won't be buying a softbox (for now), I have an 80cm Rollei 5-in-1 diffuser that I will be holding between the LED and the food) so I am afraid to lose some/a lot of light without a reflector.
@@kristofgheyssens3941 If the Bresser light is indeed the same as the identical looking Neewer one I've tested, the yoke is plastic. If you're shooting into external diffusion, I think you're right, and you'd want a reflector to get all you can out of it.
Hey sir, I like to do Portraits, mostly outdoors and my local camera store said i would be good with this light, but i would like to know if you think of this would be a good to go light ? Thanks in advance!
If you're using the stock reflector, it would work. If you want to use soft boxes, then this light would not be bright enough outdoors in sunlight. If you plan to use soft boxes, you need at least a 300 watt light to be used in sunlight. Strobes are better suited for outdoor photography because they can be much brighter. Hope that helps :)
@@NewLayer oh damn I wanted to buy one for my portraits.. I thought it would be nice in the golden hour or after the sunset. I don't want to buy a strobe light. I've a mirrorless camera so I thought I easily could buy an apature for my outdoor portraits. What do you think? Should I buy a 200w light with a softbox or that's too bad for my work? Cheers Rick
@@Rick_Gebhardt A 200 watt light in a smaller, 24” or so softbox would work OK as a fill light around sunset. If you’re at sunset in the shade it’ll work as a key if it’s in close. Continuous lights just aren’t the best for shooting outdoors against the sun.
I just got one I ordered through your link. It seems to be a nice light. The only problem I am having is keeping the batteries from falling out. Any tips?
Nathan P. Thanks for the support! Are you saying you received it and your batteries are falling out? Or you have not received it and are worried about that happening. The batteries lock in quite tightly, so I don’t see how they could ever come out without pulling them out manually. Of course some batteries have different manufacturing tolerances, but the 3 brands I have all worked just as well.
@@NathanPrintz Haha! I had the same experience, I thought it was in at first, but realized you really gotta jam it in there. Which is good for the reasons you mentioned, so it won't fall out :)
Hey dude, as somebody who plans to upgrade but wants to continue using Sony N-PF, could you let me know which lights have them mounted to the light, which to the handle, and which on a hanging cable? And which would you say is best option?
That's a pretty big list. The Jinbei EF II 60 mounts on the body of the light, the Godox ML60 mounts to the battery grip (included), and the Nanlite Forza 60/60b mounts to the battery grip (optional). Lights with a barrel connector like the Sokani X60/Sutefoto P80 and GVM P80S can also use NP-F batteries, but you'd need a dual NP-F plate with a D-tap output port + a D-tap to barrel cable. The Godox ML60 is, in my opinion, the most streamlined NP-F powered option available right now. I did a full review here if you haven't seen it: ua-cam.com/video/GHiMqZ9oiQM/v-deo.html
@@NewLayer Brilliant. Yes I’m leaning towards the ML60, but for weddings I wondered if the positioning of the batteries would make it more unstable particularly in an environment where I’m worried about the trip hazard. Then I suddenly realised, keeping the batteries away from the top of the stand would be better in fact. I’m trying to find out how long the long battery adapter cable is for the ML60. My lights could often be 7/8ft up. Do you have to clamp/hang the battery adapter to the light stand I expect? I’d prefer if I could clamp yo the base section if the stand so I can lower the light up and down without detaching the batteries to do so. I’ve watched loads of your videos dude - your channel has been a real find! Keep it up and thankyou so much!
Hell, this is hard to get in general...Amazon doesn’t have it available in the USA, and B&H has expected availability of 6-10 weeks. Any direct sources to purchase?
I have been trying to get an ETA from Jinbei on when they'll re-stock on Amazon, but I am having a hard time getting them to reply at all :-/ You could try their "e-store" here, but I don't know where they ship or pricing or anything www.ejinbei.com/
@@mustafak4378 Wow, that's very surprising! I tested it up to 240fps with no issues. I'm shocked to hear a modern COB has flickering issues, especially at 120, which is relatively slow. Are there any other lights turned on in the room while you're testing?
@@NewLayer Yea I was also very surprised. No, no other lights were turned on! But, I tested it with on AC and with batteries. I noticed that on AC there is no flickering! However when used with batteries it does flicker. I’ve used Neewer batteries, so not Jinbei’s NP-F batteries. Did you test yours with third party batteries? Thanks
I don't even see an EF II 80, so I couldn't say, haha. I reviewed the 200 watt 2nd gen lights, which are great, they just don't have NP-F support: ua-cam.com/video/pCwH9fLdIkQ/v-deo.html
The P80S is dimmer (only by 1/5 of a stop or something) and lower color accuracy, basically really close to the SL60W: newlayer.com/gear/lights/compare?light1=GVM+LS-P80S&light2=Jinbei+EF+II+60 The build quality is similar to the Jinbei EF II 60 light, but the Jinbei uses a standard power cord, supports NP-F batteries, and has a slightly quieter fan. If I had to buy one, it'd be the EF II 60, if you can find one at the moment! :'(
@@sklba632 I don't think the Mark II of this light came out that long ago. You can compare the 2 lights here: newlayer.com/gear/lights/compare?light1=Jinbei+EF+II+60&light2=GVM+LS-P80S The P80S and Jinbei lights I measured are 400K off from each other color temperature-wise, and the P80S has a decent amount of magenta tint to it. So they could work together, but not super well without gelling them to match more closely.
I have an issue with this light. When powered by batteries, it doesn’t turn on. But if I plug it in the electric supply first, no problem, it turns on by batteries afterwards. Is it a normal behavior, or should I ask for a replaced/repair?
I've heard this from a few other people. Apparently these lights are very picky about batteries, so if your batteries don't quite output 7.2-7.4V, they won't work. A lot of batteries output slightly lower voltage than they say, and most lights don't care, but this one does. Hope that helps.
Hi 👋 Can you recommend another softbox for this light ? I can’t find the loafas in Amazon . I would like at least a 90 cm softbox as you say that can be aprox the max size you can you is it with the light Many thanks I like your channel very helpfully
I would HIGHLY recommend a collapsible beauty dish instead of a parabolic softbox. They are less deep, so less heavy overall, and less front heavy so they don't put as much pressure on the mount of the light. Since they're smaller they're also easier to handle. Glow makes some, as does Laofas. I would recommend one around 28-36" as a good all-around softbox. geni.us/glowbeautydish25white geni.us/glowbeautydish34silver geni.us/glowbeautydish42silver geni.us/laofasbeautydish60 geni.us/laofasbeautydish85 geni.us/laofasbeautydish105
@@sachind.1688 It's currently out of stock in the US, and although GeniusLink tries to automatically send you to the proper listing, but it may not be available in other countries.
No. And it depends on the batteries. You'll get 30 minutes to almost 2 hours depending on which ones you use. You can calculate run time based on battery capacity and wattage of the light. I show how in this video: ua-cam.com/video/LWLDVyeuUNE/v-deo.html
@@NewLayer I've seen now the video and it's really helpful, thanks. I'm finally going for the sokani rgb which is 80W and 15V. So as i read from your fixed comment in that video, if i power it with 2 npf batteries of 88Wh, i can expect 1hour of full power more or less, right?
@@JaumeMS Yep, 88Wh of batteries will last an 80 watt light around 1 hour at 100% brightness. You'll need a dual NP-F battery plate since NP-F batteries are half the voltage as v-mounts. Or alternatively, just get a single v-mount battery instead.
For such fan noise level, should I remove the noise? I plan to create a tutorial video close up and I do not want to add any background music. btw I record sound with zoom H5. Do you have advice for this case? Thank you.
If the light is 3 feet or more from the microphone, you should have no issues. That goes for any light, not just this one. If you absolutely need the mic and light very, very close to each other, you would want a light that can run silently like the Godox SL150W II, Godox UL150, Godox ML60, Nanlite Forza 60, or something similar with a "fan off" feature. I have videos on all those lights on my channel.
With the price of the Godox of over $300, you are FAR AHEAD to buy the Amaran 100D. You get better build quality, brighter light, quiet fan, and at $200 it's a no brainer.
The build quality and fan noise on the Godox SL II is noticeably better than the Amaran COB lights, but if the prices are that different, the choice definitely becomes easier. Check out the Nanlite FS-150 too, I did a video here: ua-cam.com/video/NRn84iErwQA/v-deo.html I would rather have the FS-150 than the Amaran 100/200 in most cases, even if it's gone up in price $20 or so since launch.
@@NewLayer - Thank you for that info. I was not familiar with the Nanlite. Nice review video. At that price point, and if the fan is as quiet as the Amaran 100d, the FS150 is certainly something I will consider. I can't imagine needing anything brighter than a 150 for what I do. I've been using the Amaran 100d on a film project for the past several weekends. It has been great, and the fan noise is a total non-issue. I am very pleased with how quiet it is. Also, the packaging of the 100d is a spongy foam compartmented cardboard box that has a little more functionality than rigid styrofoam packaging, in my opinion. I don't know how long the cardboard box will last and I will be looking for a new container for it in the future, but I will likely continue to use the foam compartmented packaging after the cardboard box is done. I've not had any experience with Godox lights, but I've seen many videos complain about fan noise, or about how to replace the fan with a quieter fan. That's kept me away from considering them.
You can, just may need to crank the handle down a good bit. I would highly recommend a slightly smaller collapsible beauty dish though. Since it's half the depth of a parabolic, it's less heavy in general, and way less front heavy, so doesn't stress the mount nearly as much. You'll get the same quality of light as long as you're using the diffusion. geni.us/glowbeautydish34white geni.us/laofasbeautydish85
If you do mostly photo, and some video, I would get the FV200 because in flash mode it's 4x brighter (2 full stops brighter) than all the 200 watt Godox lights in continuous mode.
SY It does work fine with no sagging with my 2 36” soft boxes, so unless you’re is super heavy then you should be good with a solid light stand 👍 I just wouldn’t say it’s the best choice if you consistently need to go bigger than 36”
Sorry, I don't have a list. As long as they meet specs (7.2-7.4V) they should all work. Some don't seem to live up to the specs they advertise, but there's no way to tell without trying.
Yep, mine still works like new. I don't foresee it breaking unless you drop and break it. I did just get my hands on another battery powered option, which I'll try and review ASAP, because it looks promising. It's the Genaray PortaBright and is 100W, uses proprietary batteries, and comes in daylight or bi-color: geni.us/genarayportabrightd geni.us/genarayportabrightb I haven't been able to test them yet since they just arrived yesterday, but you could check them out in the meantime. All I can say is they come with a great case and are built well, as good or better than the Godox SL60W.
It does change, but so does every other light. It's kind of a hidden thing no one talks about, but every reflector I've ever tested (which is a lot) change the light temperature a few hundred Kelvin or so.
EDIT: I have a Jinbei EF II 60 (with the EF-RC remote) for sale if you've been trying to get ahold of one. DM me on Instagram @newlayercom if you want it!
People keep asking how long batteries last on this light, so instead of copying and pasting a reply each time, I'll put it here for reference.
It depends since there are many capacities of NP-F batteries. I'd say NP-F750 are the most popular, and a pair of those would be 8800mAh.
This light uses 60 watts at full power.
To get watt/hours from mAh, you take 8800 and multiply it by the voltage of the batteries, which is 7.2, then divide by 1,000.
(8800 x 7.2)/1000 = 63.36 watt hours of capacity in the batteries.
Batteries are usually around 85% efficient, so take 63.36 x 0.85 and we get ~54 watt hours.
Then you divide that by the wattage of the light at 100% (which is 60).
54 watt hours/60 watts = 0.9 hours or 54 minutes.
If you used high capacity 7800mAh NP-F950 batteries, you'd get around 1.6 hours of use.
Thanks for this. Just one more question. It takes 2 batteries. When you say 54minutes you mean each or the both please.
@@NineSevenPictures 54 minutes total, with both batteries. You cannot run this light with just 1 battery. Hope that helps.
I have this light and it blows me away how good it is for the value! easily works great with my Aputure Lanturn. Still makes no sense how no other company has put npf batteries mounted to the light itself. planning on making a review. Dont hesitate on this light its the best COB 60watt budget Led light on the market!
It's really a killer light for the price. I wish the build quality was better, but that's about it! The new Jinbei lights I have (that I'll review soon) have great build quality, so they've definitely stepped things up.
The Godox ML60, Nanlite Forza 60, and Aputure 60d/60x all support NP-F batteries, but through a separate battery plate. The Came-TV Boltzen and a few other "spotlight" style lights also use NP-F, but nothing that's a full-fledged COB like this one.
It's a shame they have been struggling to keep up with demand so much.
@@NewLayer what type? it’s kinda like a successor or a replacement for jinbei ef ii 60w? I hope it can beat godox ml60. can’t wait for the review.
@@somenbi264 No, the 2 new Jinbei lights I have are a 150 watt daylight balanced light and a 200 watt bi-color light.
@@NewLayer well said, i checked the catalog in jinbei website and no new 60watt led, even the site said jinbei ef ii 60w was sold out. If so, which one should i take, godox sl150w ii, aputure amaran 100 d, or the new jinbei 150 product? I assume that they have acceptably silent fan noise and even in my country the prices of them are slightly similar. I hope your advice that can help me choose the right one. While mostly i will use the light for close up shot and overhead-like tutorial, I hope someday I also want to shoot slow mo product, that’s why I think 60watt led is not enough. Btw this will be my first purchase on cob light and I hope i choose the right one.
@@somenbi264 The SL150W II is still probably my choice. It has great build, quiet fan, is bright, and has "fan off" mode for when silence is the most important. Hope that helps :)
Nice video! I'm looking to buy a new light and here where i live this and the godox sl-60 are the only ones that are viable, but this have so fewer reviews that I was scared about buying It. Glad that you did this one!
Thanks, glad it was helpful. If battery power is important, this is definitely a great option since the SL60W has none :)
Great video.
Perfect timing as well for me.
I was about to pick up the Godox SL-60W, but at this price, I might just pick up a couple of these lights.
Shai Yammanee Thanks, glad it helped! If so, now’s the time. They just came back into stock on Amazon after quite a long wait.
Great review! I got this light when it first came out as I was looking for a more compact, lighter, battery powered light for accent and hair on a boom stand. I was stunned when it out powered my Godox SL60's which were kinda heavy for the task. Dual battery life is slightly over an hour. Outdoor shadow fill has been exceptional. Run and gun lighting has been taken to a new level with this baby, no wonder you can't easily find them online anymore.
If the build quality was a bit better, they’d hands down be the best I think. They won’t break unless you drop them, but they still have a budget feel. Great lights!!!
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Seems perfect as a back light , hair light , rim light, etc. At that price it seems like a no brainer to buy at least one to test it out! 👏🏾
Apart from the biggest downsides of not coming with a case, and the lower end build quality, it really is a pretty darn good light, especially for the money.
Thanks! I ordered this light, and so far it’s great!
Glad to hear it! Have fun with it :)
Great I was looking for a review for that specific light for awhile
Glad you found mine! I hope it was helpful :)
interesting light, been waiting to see someone review before taking the leap. I'll probably pass on it for now, but thank you for the review!
Glad the review helped, even if that means it helped you decide against it! Let me know if you ever have any other questions about other lights :)
@@NewLayer absolutely will do! Also I am working on a podcast series interviewing filmmakers that I have worked with as well as content creators chatting about our love of gear and what got them started in tech. If interested would be great go get you on an episode in the next month or so.
@@ReachFilms That sounds awesome! Would you mind DMing me on Instagram @newlayercom? Or jump into my new Discord server: discord.gg/bYZSNh We chat about gear and UA-cam and filmmaking all the time. Some good connections to be made there :)
gonna watch this and decide to buy it now....good luck little jinbei
Hehe, a lot of people love theirs. I have a video on the new Jinbei EFII-200 and EF-200 Bi-Color coming on Monday, so watch out for those too :)
@@NewLayer sweet! I am gonna get it and that apurture portable light. Unless some better comes along !
@@NewLayer just ordered it man!
I agree with you this is godox killer especially with color high rates and the light out put. Great review.
Thanks, glad you liked it. I was very surprised at how color accurate this light was!
Very good review. The color accuracy and brightness are excellent selling points on their own. As far as soft boxes go, I've gone as far as throwing a t-shirt over the reflector to avoid setting up a soft box. Or you could even hang a shower curtain in front of the light to help soften it. The ability to use NP batteries on top of the light is also a very good feature. At the moment, I'm focusing on getting lenses. But, this is definitely a possible purchase in the near future.
Thanks! And shower curtains/liners, the original DIY diffusion screen :) Nowadays you can get diffusion cloth for cheaper, but we've all been there, hehe.
Can it use NP-FH30 and NP-FP30?
MASTER! MAAAA MAAAAN! Thanks for this
Haha, I don't know how to respond to that except, you're welcome.
thanks for sharing amazing video. Please consider doing the videos without the music. We come to your videos for your good reviews coz u do a good job at it.
Cheers mate!
Great review and light! Also great tip on the softbox although I can’t find its availability. @4:13 was this an example of the yokes maximum angle adjustment? Because that is limiting. Also besides this, does it feel cheap and wobbly when adjusting like it could break? Lastly, does that reflector cut out for the umbrella pass through affect the even light spread when just using the reflector dish?
Sorry I forgot the softbox link. I added that to the description: geni.us/laofas28
The angle adjustment goes way farther than that, I was just showing how the mechanism worked, which is just like the Godox SL60W.
The reflector cut out does let a little light out, so you'd have to tape over it or something. That's a good point, although other lights have that cut out, you have to punch that piece out first, so if you don't use umbrellas, you have a fully closed reflector by default. Again, a super tiny thing, but worth knowing.
New Layer great, thanks!
you made my day man
Thanks. Glad you liked it 👍
@@NewLayer coming home soon bruh, saw the video and received a german message tellin me that my package was send, 30 mn later lol
@@NewLayer the stuff currently in front of me now 🙌
@@S9universe Nice! Let me know how you like it :)
@@NewLayer well pretty impressive by the size, very Very silent. Wiith indirect lighting I can quickly achieve beautiful even light, without hotspots. I would have loved that it worked with only one np-f though and came with a case 😂 But for the price man I'm so happy.. just got to get some modifiers
almost 100k !!
Slowly but surely!
Great review!
Thanks! Glad you liked it :)
I think I found the perfect budget light that meets my needs. I currently have cametv 55w but need another unit with native bowens mount, has npf battery ability and still compact lightweight for events.
This might be the one! Fits all that criteria, and is definitely very easier to move around on a light stand with no cords hanging down :)
Im also considering godox vl150, do u have a video comparison on that? Not sure how bigger and heavier the godox is, especially with the power units
Ben Cruz that was my next most recent review! Check it out and let me know if you have any other questions: ua-cam.com/video/u8nnQe2Ec4c/v-deo.html
Thank you very much for this review!
You're welcome, glad it was helpful! :)
nice review! what kinda tripod is that in your video?
So many people ask me about it that I put it in the beginning of this video :) ua-cam.com/video/TV0dyXLLgRw/v-deo.html
Hey mate, nice comparison! Which light and camera you use on that video (or in general)?
I use the Sony a7S III in everything now. Here’s my camera gear for 2021 video ua-cam.com/video/4juOPwIuJsg/v-deo.html
And here’s a video on the light I use for Amy talking head stuff: ua-cam.com/video/cc6wD-PrzMQ/v-deo.html
Thank you for the review.
How long can you use it at 100% when using batteries, please?
It depends on the batteries since there are many capacities of NP-F batteries. I'd say NP-F750 are the most popular, and a pair of those would be 8800mAh.
This light uses 60 watts (give or take) at full power.
To get watt/hours from mAh, you take 8800 and multiply it by the voltage of the batteries, which is 7.2, then divide by 1,000.
(8800 x 7.2)/1000 = 63.36 watt hours of capacity in the batteries.
Batteries are usually around 85% efficiency, so take 63.36 x 0.85 and we get ~54 watt hours.
Then you divide that by the wattage of the light at 100% (which is 60).
54 watt hours/60 watts = .9 hours or 54 minutes.
If you used high capacity 10,050mAh NP-F950 batteries, you'd get just over 2 hours at 100% brightness.
I hope that helps :)
@@NewLayer Thank you very much for the calculation!
update: after a non-stop problems with np batteries (sometimes work with this light sometimes not... lottery), very cheap clamp problems, light just died day ago... maybe after a 25-30 total hours of use...
Dang, sorry to hear that. Thanks for sharing so people have a broader view of these lights. Did you get in touch with Jinbei? www.goldenshell.com.cn is their website. If you say you found it through my video they may be slightly more likely to replace it, if you weren't planning to already.
@@NewLayer no, but thanks for the tipp... will try it💪
I really had no luck with it...
@@NewLayer you will not believe me.. I went to this webpage,
and there is only one "contact" folder where it says: Online Message
So I filled everything out, wrote the message.
As I clicked on "send" - there is allways error coming: "fill out the correct phone number"
which I did 30 times with different combinations.. with +... with 00, with spaces etc
no way! you can not type "correct" phone number! no matter what
so: YOU CAN NOT SEND THEM A MESSAGE, don't know if they doing that on purpose or what... but thats a pitty...
you can try it if want... 😥
@@VirtuosityToniLekic DM me your contact info on Instagram @newlayercom and I'll give you a direct email.
Bought one for myself after your review! I quite like that little stand you have it on. Do you mind sharing what brand is it?
Nice! It's a Pergear aluminum mini/gimbal tripod: geni.us/pergeargimbaltripod
You also need a spigot adapter set to put lights on tripods like this: geni.us/spigotadapterkit
Awesome! Thanks a lot :)
Thanks for the review! How long does the battery last?
NP-F batteries come in all sizes, so it depends. You can get anywhere from 20-90+ minutes depending on which batteries you buy.
I've had good luck with GVM batteries when it comes to budget options. I would get at least 4400mAh for something like this geni.us/gvmnpf750 but 6600mAh is even better/lasts longer geni.us/gvmdualnpfvmount
Hi man, thanks for in depth review about this product, super helpful. For someone who want more power, did you check the EF II 100 ? It looks like they have no battery mount? and most importantly, whats the additional Lux and CR/TLCI rating?
You're welcome, thanks for checking it out. I haven't used the EF II 100, but I just got the EFII-200 and the EF-200Bi. The EF-200Bi has an XLR input for battery power via v-mount, but the EFII-200 does not. Sounds like the EFII-100 does not either.
Usuaully, going from 60 to 100 watts will be about 1/3 to 1/2 stop greater brightness. I'll be reviewing the 200s as soon as I can.
Thanks for this, useful information. Very nicely lit video, too, if I may say so!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the feedback :)
Super interesting to find video about this lamp because it seems like it's a OEM product and the exact same one is also sold under the name 'GlareOne 600D' in Poland for 25$ more than Godox.
Interesting! I believe Jinbei is the direct manufacturer, but I’m not against rebrands. Godox/Flashpoint is a good example of when it works well!
6:35 OMFG, that's what that hole in the dish is for! How did I not know realise this 😂
Nicu Castravet Haha! I never use umbrellas so don’t pop them out usually, but that is indeed what they are for.
@@NewLayer really good review, I'm glad you made it and I really appreciate it :) have a nice day!
OK, I picked up a couple of these lights to try out. I was hoping to use them as a bright outdoor source in shady or night time conditions. And they are bright enough.
The problem is that all of my largest NP-F batteries (970s) can power these lights for no more than 3 minutes at 100% power. My batteries are decent cells, and one of them will power a CameTV Boltzen 55W spot for 45 minutes at 100%.
I didn't try them at lower than 100% power because I'll need all of those 60W for my use outdoors. So back to Amazon they go. Your mileage may vary.
Rick, something is very wrong if you're only getting 3 minutes at 100% power. All signs point to batteries if the same thing is happening with both Jinbei lights, so I would definitely borrow some other batteries for testing.
NP-Fs (like all batteries) do have a lifespan, and I would suspect they are not producing high enough voltage any more, so will work with some lights, but not others. Even if they are new, there is a huge variation in battery quality, even from "higher end" brands, and some don't produce high enough amperage for something that is 60 watts.
Manufacturers don't worry about it most of the time because it's very rare people use them for such powerful lights, so no harm no foul in those cases. But in your case...
NP-F 970s are usually 6300mAh, so 2 are 12,600mAh. Multiply 12,600 x 7.4 volts and you have ~93Wh, meaning you should be able to power a 93 watt device for 1 hour (or a 60 watt device like this light for 1 hour and 33 minutes). Even if they are 7.2V, they'd be 90Wh.
Let me know if you're able to test other batteries, because it's highly unlikely to be a problem with the lights.
@@NewLayer , all good advice, except that one of these same batteries power my CameTV Boltzen 55W lights at full power for about 45 minutes. And I've tried multiple batteries. I usually go with the DSTE batteries because they work well and have good recommendations online.
Did you do a power test with your own NP-F batteries? Do you have a recommended battery brand? Thanks for any help you can provide. Love the channel!
@@GatesRick That's part of what I was getting at. Your CameTV Boltzen lights might be happy using not only less wattage, but a lower voltage. Regardless of wattage, the Jinbei lights may be more picky about voltage/voltage droop once their capacity drops below a certain point, which would cause the issues you mentioned.
That's my educated guess based on the fact that it happens with both Jinbei lights. You'd have to test the actually battery voltage etc to know for sure, which is definitely annoying.
I have a bunch of GVM batteries, some of which came with lights, some I bought, but they've always worked in all my NP-F devices: geni.us/gvmnpf750
I also ran my Jinbei for ~45 minutes with two 750s before I turned it off myself
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I hope that helps, and maybe solves the mystery here!
@@NewLayer @Rick Gates This might actually be a thing with Jinbei lights though. I saw a video about the first version of the Jinbei EF 60 where someone has the same problem that all his batteries don’t work with it. ua-cam.com/video/mNsPewprlJ8/v-deo.html
Maybe they need a higher voltage than most other lights or something.
@@fjodorf7341 Thanks for sharing. Obviously that's the version 1, but I have to think that the Jinbei lights must be strict on requiring ATCUAL 7.4V, and some batteries simply don't live up to their listed voltage, then suffer from voltage droop after being drained a bit.
Wow came in quick with this review. One question would be the reliability compared to traditional cob led lights with that new generation battery input. The Chinese usually share? technologies so it's easy to see which lights are similar. But this is a new one
Glad you liked seeing it. And yes, Jinbei is new in the US, but I believe they've been around for a while in China and have great ratings on Alibaba/Aliexpress.
Longevity is definitely a question though, but I also think most people buying budget lights like this don't use them enough to kill them before buying a new one :)
I just bought a similar light from a German company called the Rollei Soluna ii 60 for 120€ on their website. You can also get a bag for it for 50€.
Nice! I've seen it under 1 other name in the Netherlands or something as well. Pretty interesting.
@@NewLayer I guess there's a company out there that makes it and others whitelabel the product. Well just in case you're interested and maybe want to try out some of Rollei's lights, here's a link to their site: www.rollei.de/en/collections/led-dauerlicht
I don't work for Rollei, but there's just not that many reviews to some of their lights on UA-cam, although the products seem pretty good.
@@roberto-maddaloni Yep! I believe Jinbei is the manufacturer and then licenses their designs out for re-branding.
Thanks for the link, I'll check them out!
Thanks for the review! This light seems like a steal to me. One question: is there some sort of battery level indicator on the light?
It’s a great light for the price. The build quality is much lower than something like the Godox ML60, and it doesn’t come with a carrying case. It also doesn’t have a battery level indicator, but it does have a native Bowens mount.
The fan is louder but should still be fine, and finally, the main thing is that it can be hard to find in stock!
@@NewLayer I'm really stuck between chosing this jinbei efii60 or the the new Godox ML60. Which one would you choose?
@@SHVideografie If you can afford it, I would get the ML60. The only thing the Jinbei has over it is price and the native Bowens mount. But... the more I use the ML60 and Forza 60, the more I like using them with their native mounts, not Bowens accessories. The Godox mount stuff is super inexpensive and light weight, and you can still get pretty big softboxes.
Check out my ML60 video if you haven't already ua-cam.com/video/GHiMqZ9oiQM/v-deo.html
@@NewLayer Thanks for your response! Would you advice the Godox Ad60s Softbox or a larger one to pair with the ML60?
@@SHVideografie It just depends on your needs. Smaller is more portable, bigger is softer light. These are my favorites:
geni.us/glowgodoxads85 or the Godox version geni.us/godoxads85s
geni.us/glowgodoxads65 or the Godox version geni.us/godoxads65s
Some are out of stock or harder to get, so any of those are great.
Seriously considered it after watching your review, but Amazon says they don't know if/when it will be available again. So, I went with the Godox SL60W. I'll have to use my Intefit Nomad battery pack when I travel outside the studio.
It’s a shame they are having trouble keeping up with production, but the SL60W is a staple for a reason 👍
Hey man, I bought this light about a year ago after seeing this review. Loved the light for the portability and the battery component. Recently, the batteries don't seem to power the light on, only AC. Can't seem to contact jinbei through B&H regarding warranty. I already own a lot of NF batteries, and was wondering what your advice is? Is there a comparable product now? Or shoud I try and figure out the issue.
Sorry to hear that. These lights seem to be picky with batteries, so anything that's even slightly undervolted stops working, but works on everything else.
There are a few NP-F compatible options out there now. The Nanlite Forza 60 and Godox ML60, both of which I reviewed. I also have a video coming out tomorrow that may be the perfect fit for you, so make sure to check that out :)
Feel free to reach on on Insta @newlayercom if you have more questions tomorrow.
@@NewLayer thanks for the quick reply. Yes, I did notice I have to swap batteries in and out to get them working sometimes. Maybe a power bank might be the way to go. I'll be sure to tune in tomorrow!
@@davidgunn1163 Here's the video on the Amaran 60d/60x: ua-cam.com/video/m1cXOypWocc/v-deo.html
I would recommend those lights over this for sure :)
Wow, never heard of this light. Seems to be hard to get over here in England. Seems like a really strong option, I have to say. I think the Sokani has it beat on special features, though, which is something I personally value a lot with lights and wish more lights at those price points would have it.
Luckily we're all get more and more options from multiple brands, which only benefits us users! :)
Light is awesome.
Hi! Do you still have this light? I'm thinking of buying one, but no one made a video of a year after review... I wonder if it is durable. Thanks for your high quality reviews. (=
Sorry I no longer have this one. I owned it for a few months and it worked the whole time, but if you're looking for someone who used it a lot for an extended period of time, unfortunately I can't help.
Great review. If you had to choose between the Godox SL60W and the Jinbei EF II 60, which would you recommend and why? Thanks!
It depends on your needs I'd say.
If you NEED to use 36"-48" modifiers, you might want the Godox because the build quality is a bit better. The Jinbei EF II 60 can still handle 36" modifiers, I just don't know if you'd regularly want to use anything bigger.
Apart from that, the Jinbei is superior in brightness, color accuracy, has a quieter fan, and of course has NP-F battery support, which is awesome. Once you can go cordless with your lights, it's extra annoying to go back.
Those would be the deciding factors for me, and is why I recommended the 28" LAOFAS softbox for the Jinbei light. I think that's more than enough for many people. For example, all of my talking head videos are made with just a 24" softbox, so 24-36" is completely adequate for a lot of styles of video.
Hope that helps :)
@@NewLayer Thanks!! What light do you personally use for your videos?
For my talking head setup in my office, the Intellytech LC-160RGBW II, but for very specific reasons you can see in this video: ua-cam.com/video/q08F5Aerasw/v-deo.html
For my b-roll in my "studio", I use the Godox SL150W II, because I need the 150 watt brightness, and I like that it's just the head unit and a cord with not external extras like the Godox VL series: geni.us/godoxsl150wii
I use DigitalFoto RGB Chameleon Tubes (4') for my back lights in the studio space too: geni.us/dfchameleon4
They are essentially identical to the Nanlite Pavotubes (geni.us/nanlitepavotube) for a little less money, and I've been happy with mine.
@@NewLayer Awesome! Is there a big difference in the light diffusion from the 27.5" softbox vs a 36"? Or is it hardly noticeable?
@@pauldittus4587 It just depends on what you're shooting and how close you can get the light. I used a 48" beauty dish for a while on my videos, then dropped all the way to a 24" softbox, and no one ever noticed, haha.
I moved the 24" softbox a little closer than I had the 48", but it was plenty soft. If you're trying to light a full body, then that's when you're better off with a bigger softbox, but for head and shoulders or headshots, a 28" can produce great results.
This 34" Glow collapsible beauty dish would be another great option because it's less deep, so it's less leverage on the light yoke: geni.us/glowbeautydish34silver
The Light King! For the $$$ the Jinbei seems like a good deal especially for people just getting into filmmaking.
Haha, thanks. And I agree, it may not be perfect, but semi-quiet fan, great light quality and brightness, and NP-F support make it a solid contender for any beginner.
@@NewLayer The NP-F was a real nice feature for sure.
Thanks for the breakdown! Looks like this light is already hard to come by here in early 2021. Would this work as a key light for a studio the size of yours? Or would you recommend something like the Weeylite Ninja 400 instead?
You're welcome. I don't want to say it's my fault, but ever since this video it's been out of stock a lot, LOL.
This light, and other 60 watt lights, work well as key lights for talking head videos indoors. I used a Forza 60 at only 35% brightness for a while and it worked great.
The Ninja 400 is great if you ever need to balance light color with other ambient light. I have a Ninja 400 for sale for a good deal if you're interested. DM me on Instagram @newlayercom if so!
@@NewLayer You influencer, you! Thanks for the reply. There is a new version of the Godox SL-60W with a Softbox Grid Kit that looks like it could be a good 60 watt key light for pairing with my M-50 and Rode VideoMic for my indoor talking head videos.
@@erictwohey LOL! Do you mean the ML60, or the new UL60? Or is there something else I'm missing?
Paused video half way through to order one!
Hope you like it! Come back and tell me once it arrives :)
Liked the video and will test the light... Can you please let us know which stand you have it mounted on in your video. seems to fold into a decent grip for handholding the light?
It's just a gimbal tripod (geni.us/pergeargimbaltripod) with a spigot adapter on top (geni.us/spigotadapterkit) Hope that helps :)
Greetings New Layer from New Zealand and thank you for a great review of this light , I was wondering how this light now compares to the godox ML60 .Here in NZ the ML60 is around $130NZD more than the Jinbei so I would be really keen to hear your thoughts on the two .Thanks heaps for taking the time to reply .
I did a full review on the ML60 here: ua-cam.com/video/GHiMqZ9oiQM/v-deo.html
It's smaller, better built, quieter fan, and comes with a case. It also has a battery grip rather than slots in the head for the batteries. Lastly, the ML60 is not a Bowens mount, so you'll need to use Godox mount modifiers (which are cheap, lightweight, and plentiful) or use the Godox S2 Bowens adapter.
Hope that helps.
Thanks for the video, this light is very interesting, what do you think in comparison with the sokani x60, the sokani is much brighter? excuse my english i am italian :)
The Sokani is technically 40 lux dimmer at 3000 vs the Jinbei 3040 lux, but that is basically nothing at all.
The Sokani X60 has a louder fan, has an external AC adapter, and lower light quality. It has a better build quality on the body, and has built in effects.
The Sokani X60 comes with a nice carrying case, but obviously doesn't support NP-F batteries.
You can compare all the stats here: newlayer.com/gear/lights/compare?light1=Jinbei+EF+II+60&light2=Sokani+X60
@@NewLayer Thank you, the brightness is pretty much the same if I understand correctly...as far as the batteries are concerned the Sokani can be powered with a v-mount battery with an adapter cable as I saw on UA-cam ( ua-cam.com/video/0-_CpNfeYO8/v-deo.html )...but the jimbei has a better quality of light and is less noisy and native batteries support, I think I will opt for this spotlight thanks a lot...
@@michelangelodefranchis5374You are correct! Any light with a barrel adapter can be powered by v-mount batteries with a d-tap to barrel cable, plus you'll need an adapter to mount the v-mount to your light stand. If you're going to go through all that trouble, I would just buy a Godox VL150 that allows you to mount the v-mount battery directly on the controller.
The Jinbei EF II 60 is definitely the most simple battery-powered COB LED available, and has all the great things about it you mentioned.
@@NewLayer Have you tested the Sokani X60 V1 or V2? Because I heard the V2 is quieter.
@@berni2574 I have tested the V1 and V2, and plan to make a quick comparison of the changes as soon as possible.
The V2 is definitely quieter than the V1, and quieter than the Godox SL60W and the Jinbei EF II 60. It also has a Rosette style angle adjustment on the mounting yoke, and longer power cables.
Hope that helps :)
i hope you make a clip comparison between nanlite forza 60 & jinbel ef ii 60, please
I won't be making a video specific to comparing those lights, but you can compare all the measured brightness/color accuracy at least here: newlayer.com/gear/lights/compare?light1=Jinbei+EF+II+60&light2=Nanlite+Forza+60
Let me know if you have any other specific questions.
Another amazing review and this time you catch my attention! Can you told me if the light can dim to 1%? Thanks and again great review!
Yes it can go down all the way to 1%
I'm glad this video helped :)
Absolutely! I’m planning to do a review on the godox sl 200w (the mark I) and I want to compare on the paper with the second generation. But because I don’t have the light I’m thinking to use your amazing b-roll of that light. Can I used in my video? Of corse I insert the credit to your channel!
@@alessandro.petracci Sounds great, I have an SL200W II on the way to me right now, but I don't have the SL200W original.
Unfortunately, I cannot give permission to reuse my B-roll in your videos to avoid issues with copyright claims etc. with UA-cam.
New Layer oh I’m sad to read this because I see all the time youtuber that quote other videos. Are you sure of that? I want to write your name in every images that I take from your video..
Unfortunately it's simply not a good idea. UA-cam has systems in place that find duplicate sections of content, and if I let other people use my footage, I run the risk of my videos being taken down, even temporarily.
Other creators probably aren't aware of this, don't care, or the footage is taken without permission (even if someone gives credit).
On top of that, I would encourage you to create your own content from scratch rather than reusing other clips. Your videos will be better, and your skills will increase more quickly, which will help you to grow your channel.
I bought this light. It arrived today. It's not that bright. And the fan is very noticeable. I'll try and put it in perspective. If you're using it for a subject in an interview, in other words someone not moving around a lot, it'll be fine because you can put the light near the subject and have the aperture on the camera lens wide open. However in the real world if you're a filmmaker, you're going to need at least f8 but more realistically f14 for a subject moving around a lot and keep them in focus. In a wide scene where the light needs to be around 3 meters away minimum then this light falls short in an epic way. You need a light that can light a room easily while at the same time allowing f14 at 100ISO. More power to turn down and fine tune is what's really needed but that can be a challenge.
You are right, 60 watt lights (in a soft box) will be limited. They are mostly useful as a key light from around 3-5 feet in a 24-36" softbox. At 100% brightness, they max out at around ISO 400, f/2.8-f/5.6 at 1/50 depending on the size and closeness of the softbox.
The Jinbei EF II 60 is one of the brightest 60 watt lights (newlayer.com/gear/lights/compare?light1=Godox+SL60W&light2=Jinbei+EF+II+60) so it sounds like you may want at least a 150 watt light, which would give you around 1-1.5 stops more brightness. Even a 300 watt light will only give you 2-2.5 stops more brightness than 60 watt lights, so that would still fall well short of f/14 at 100 ISO, although, at that brightness your talent would be squinting because that's exactly as bright as high noon sunlight on a bright day, which is why most video cameras have native ISO of 400-1600.
For lighting a whole room anywhere near that bright, you'd likely need 3+ 300 watt lights like the Godox VL300 or Aputure 300d II or the upcoming 600d, but even then, you'd like be shooting around ISO 400 and f/8.
Hopefully my light tool can help you figure out what might be a good fit for you newlayer.com/gear/lights/compare A 36" softbox typically cuts 1.5-2 stops of light from the bare bulb measurements I have listed, and each time you double the distance, you only get 1/4 the output.
Thanks for sharing your feedback.
@@NewLayer No one seems to be addressing the real elephant in the room with these lights. OK we've got some lights now. And yes they can knock out some serious lumens now. OK. Good.. Lets all give these companies a round of applause and a pat on the back. HOWEVER. There are no real efforts going into affordable portable power solutions. The new Aputure 600D requires 4 V lock batteries. And that battery station doesn't look cheap. I bet by the time you buy the batteries and the battery station you're into $1000. Plus the light. And how much mileage do you get out of those 4 batteries?? Even a 300watt uses 2 batteries and you get around 45 mins (So I'm told) . We need a more practical, realistic battery solution that doesn't cost more than your house. Lets start asking our light manufacturers to start and concentrate their efforts on batteries and battery stations that we can actually afford.
I think it has more to do with limitations of technology. LEDs are extremely efficient, and battery tech is as advanced as ever, so I don’t think there’s much more that can be done with efficiency using current tech. In my opinion the best solution is simply using multiple smaller lights.
Yes, something like the Aputure 600d is very impressive, but you can get the same or better output with 2 Godox VL300, without the hassle of 26V batteries, which are uber expensive.
Yes, v-mounts in general are very expensive, but unfortunately I don’t see any way around that, especially compared to how much they cost just 5 years ago.
Welp, looks like this light will be hard to get for the next like 6 months. No longer on Amazon and B&H has it at 6-10 weeks.
Whoops 😬 I did a more recent review on the Genaray Portabright daylight and bi-color, so those are battery options with some differences. There's also the Nanlite Forza 60 and the upcoming Godox ML60, but those are a good bit more expensive.
Hopefully Jinbei can get these things through production more quickly!
@@NewLayer Just an FYI if you haven't already bought a different one, I ordered mine from their website and is arriving today. It took around 5 days (to the UK)
Thanks for the video!!! Is there any accessory to protect the sensor of the light if you're shooting outside?
Good question! I don't think I've ever seen a COB protector that is meant for use while the light is on. Any light with a cover over the COB uses glass or some special heat resistant material. If you find anything let me know!
@@NewLayer thanks! If I find something I would let you know. Because that's the only issue I have with this light,it's wonderful.
Time to make a "how to make b-roll like new layer" video
Your wish is my command. Just wait 6 months and I'm sure it'll happen sometime in there 😅
Hey ! What mini tripod are you using ?
Mine doesn’t fit
Thank you for the review 😊🙏🏼
It's a gimbal tripod + spigot adapter. I cover it 1st in this video: ua-cam.com/video/TV0dyXLLgRw/v-deo.html
@@NewLayer thank you so much friend 🙏🏼
awesome review !!! One of the best and straight to the point !!
I have ONE question though:
Does the fan noise lessens when you use the light at minimal power or does it stay on at full blast no matter the power output ?
Thanks, glad you liked it!
The fan speed on this light is constant, so it runs the same speed and has the same volume no matter what brightness it’s set to.
I wanted to buy this light but they just went out of stock this week at my camera store so I called to ask when they'll restock and they said expectated stock at the end of august... LOL god damnit.
Haha. All too familiar of a story. Sorry.
I’ve got some lights for sale and could give you a great deal if you’re in the US: www.gearfocus.com/newlayer.html
What batteries did you use with this? I have read a review that stated they only work with certain NP-F970 batteries, such as the Jinbei ones.
Thanks.
I used GVM, Jinbei, and some totally no name NP-F batteries with mine and they all worked. I did hear from some people that some batteries seemingly randomly didn't work. I think it's because this light is very strict on the required voltage, and some batteries don't actually put out what they say they do.
@@NewLayer Great. Thanks for the info.
Where would I find something talking about the less known metrics you mentioned? I know color temp, lux and CRI, but not familiar with TLCI, TM30, Rf, Rg, and SSI?
On my Light Comparison Tool, you can click the small question marks next to each one to see a short description of how they work newlayer.com/gear/lights/compare
I tried to make them as concise and simple as possible, so if you need more info, I’d just Google “TLCI color rendering” or something similar and check the first few results.
Eventually I’ll make an in-depth video on this.
hey man, been reading reviews of thisone today. some say the batteries only work when fully charged, or it doesnt work properly when you turn it on and off with partially depleted batteries, have you observed any of this?
I have personally not had this issue, but it is most likely because of under voltage batteries + the light being strict on the required voltage.
So you may have no issues like me, or might need to find the best batteries to use.
Hey man! Serious great overview on this light. Came across this video on my search for the perfect budget bowens mount video light for under $200. Im looking to use this with a cheap fresnel modifier as a background light for interview and such. Do you think this is a good option or would you recommend something different for a backlight?
Thanks, glad you liked it! This light is definitely bright enough for a background light since it's even bright enough as a key light in a softbox.
The hardest thing about this light is finding one to buy! I've done a ton of other light reviews, so if you can't find one in stock anywhere, I'm sure one of the others would be a good fit. Perhaps a bi-color COB like the GVM G100W would fit your needs geni.us/gvmg100w It's normally $299 but I've seen it on sale closer to $200 a few times
If you just need an inexpensive daylight COB, then the original SL60W is hard to beat for the price too geni.us/godoxsl60wled
Have you had a look at the PIXAPRO DAYLiTE60D MKII ? I do not expect this to be better than the Jinbei, but was just wondering if there was much difference
That's a clone of the Neewer 60 watt light (not SL60W), which I tried a long time ago before I had tools to measure output. The light itself was actually good and pretty quiet. Unfortunately I don't know the brightness, but if I had to guess it would've been around the same brightness as this light, maybe 1/3 stop dimmer.
I've heard of Jinbei from awhile back when they were manufacturing strobe accessories(softboxes/umbrella/stands)....
They actually make a TON of products, but only certain ones seem to make it to the US market. I like what I see as their lights progress, so hopefully we'll see some more in the future :)
Jinbei 2020 upgrade model:EFII-150w, get it now!!! www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001913662938.html?spm=5261.ProductManageOnline.0.0.15744edfp6uh3w
Ordered. I wanted a Godox SLB60, but it costs much more, and it has a proprietary battery (which doesn’t fit my AD600pro unfortunately).
I surprised, that there is not much information about this light and Jinbei generally. They have bad marketing in Europe.
Do they have any representatives in Europe? Where can someone service their products when needed?
Nice! Congrats on the purchase. Let me know how you like it when it arrives!
The SLB60W never took off because it was so overpriced I think. The EFII 60 is better in every single way in my opinion, except for build quality.
Jinbei's website is goldenshell.com.cn, and you can contact them there. I don't know much of anything about local reps though.
I also just did a video on the Godox ML60, which is a much better successor to the SLB60W ua-cam.com/video/GHiMqZ9oiQM/v-deo.html
@@NewLayer had watched it already. One big issue for me, is the Godox mount (and not Bowens). I am too lazy to deal with adaptors.
@@pogolas Haha, I know what you mean. It can get annoying if you constantly have to add and remove them.
great review but mention battery life next time
Thanks, glad you liked it. As far as battery life goes, here's my reply to someone else who asked about that:
It depends on the batteries since there are many capacities of NP-F batteries. I'd say NP-F750 are the most popular, and a pair of those would be 8800mAh.
This light uses 60 watts (give or take) at full power.
To get watt/hours from mAh, you take 8800 and multiply it by the voltage of the batteries, which is 7.2, then divide by 1,000.
(8800 x 7.2)/1000 = 63.36 watt hours of capacity in the batteries.
Batteries are usually around 85% efficiency, so take 63.36 x 0.85 and we get ~54 watt hours.
Then you divide that by the wattage of the light at 100% (which is 60).
54 watt hours/60 watts = 0.9 hours or 54 minutes.
If you used high capacity 10,050mAh NP-F950 batteries, you'd get just over 2 hours at 100% brightness.
I hope that helps :)
I just picked up this light (per your recommendation: thanks a bunch!), and I am confused as to what mount I need? Which are you using? Does the Jinbei need a 3/8" spigot?
Awesome! I hope you like it as much as I do.
As far as a mount goes, what are you trying to mount it to? You should have no issues mounting this light to any lightstand. It has the same size mounting hole as every other COB LED light, so you should be good to go.
Let me know if I misunderstood :)
@@NewLayer I ended up purchasing a lightstand that could mount the Jinbei. I asked prior to having the Jinbei in person and I just suspected that it would have used some other mounting convention! This has been one of my best budget purchases, thanks a ton 😉
@@プレイフルクラウド I'm so glad to hear you're liking it! I try my best to present unbiased videos so people can choose for themselves, partially so I don't feel guilty if they buy something and hate it, LOL.
If I use only indoor for making photos for ecommerce online shop, would you also recommend this lighting for me?
If you're only doing photos, I would recommend strobes instead of continuous lights. They will be much brighter, which you need so you can shoot ISO 100 at small apertures like f/11-f/16 to get the sharpest possible images.
If you REALLY want to use continuous lights, look at the Godox FV150 or FV200. I did a video on them here: ua-cam.com/video/XbzPndcSKbI/v-deo.html
They are super bright continuous lights, but also have flash functionality that gives you about 2 full stops of extra brightness, so a good hybrid choice.
This is a copy of the Rollei Soluna II-60 LED so if the Jinbei is hard to get in your country, you could have a look at Rollei. Comparable is the Bresser BR-60S which is made of aluminium.
I could be wrong, but I believe Jinbei is the manufacturer, so the Rollei is a rebranding of that. The Bresser also looks identical to one of the 60 watt Neewer lights, and I think Neewer is the manufacturer as well.
Not that I care about rebrands, Flashpoint is the Adorama house brand, but is simply Godox with different logos on them. All are great :)
@@NewLayer Jinbei, Rollei and Bresser 60 models are all €119 at the moment here in Europe. Bresser is the only one who states its light is made of aluminium, but I can't find the info that this is also true for the yoke, which is the weakest link in a light as you stated in this Jinbei review.
Unfortunately, the Bresser doesn't come with a reflector. I won't be buying a softbox (for now), I have an 80cm Rollei 5-in-1 diffuser that I will be holding between the LED and the food) so I am afraid to lose some/a lot of light without a reflector.
@@kristofgheyssens3941 If the Bresser light is indeed the same as the identical looking Neewer one I've tested, the yoke is plastic. If you're shooting into external diffusion, I think you're right, and you'd want a reflector to get all you can out of it.
Hey sir,
I like to do Portraits, mostly outdoors and my local camera store said i would be good with this light, but i would like to know if you think of this would be a good to go light ?
Thanks in advance!
If you're using the stock reflector, it would work. If you want to use soft boxes, then this light would not be bright enough outdoors in sunlight. If you plan to use soft boxes, you need at least a 300 watt light to be used in sunlight. Strobes are better suited for outdoor photography because they can be much brighter. Hope that helps :)
@@NewLayer oh damn I wanted to buy one for my portraits.. I thought it would be nice in the golden hour or after the sunset. I don't want to buy a strobe light. I've a mirrorless camera so I thought I easily could buy an apature for my outdoor portraits. What do you think? Should I buy a 200w light with a softbox or that's too bad for my work?
Cheers Rick
@@Rick_Gebhardt A 200 watt light in a smaller, 24” or so softbox would work OK as a fill light around sunset. If you’re at sunset in the shade it’ll work as a key if it’s in close. Continuous lights just aren’t the best for shooting outdoors against the sun.
I just got one I ordered through your link. It seems to be a nice light. The only problem I am having is keeping the batteries from falling out. Any tips?
Nathan P. Thanks for the support! Are you saying you received it and your batteries are falling out? Or you have not received it and are worried about that happening.
The batteries lock in quite tightly, so I don’t see how they could ever come out without pulling them out manually.
Of course some batteries have different manufacturing tolerances, but the 3 brands I have all worked just as well.
I was wrong. The battery is such a snug fit that I didn't realize I should shove it all the way down. It is a very tight fit. Thanks so much.
@@NathanPrintz Haha! I had the same experience, I thought it was in at first, but realized you really gotta jam it in there. Which is good for the reasons you mentioned, so it won't fall out :)
Nothing shows up on amazon from your link....!
It goes in and out of stock a LOT. The B&H option in the link should work, although it’s typically a special order item regardless.
Hey dude, as somebody who plans to upgrade but wants to continue using Sony N-PF, could you let me know which lights have them mounted to the light, which to the handle, and which on a hanging cable? And which would you say is best option?
That's a pretty big list. The Jinbei EF II 60 mounts on the body of the light, the Godox ML60 mounts to the battery grip (included), and the Nanlite Forza 60/60b mounts to the battery grip (optional).
Lights with a barrel connector like the Sokani X60/Sutefoto P80 and GVM P80S can also use NP-F batteries, but you'd need a dual NP-F plate with a D-tap output port + a D-tap to barrel cable.
The Godox ML60 is, in my opinion, the most streamlined NP-F powered option available right now. I did a full review here if you haven't seen it: ua-cam.com/video/GHiMqZ9oiQM/v-deo.html
@@NewLayer Brilliant. Yes I’m leaning towards the ML60, but for weddings I wondered if the positioning of the batteries would make it more unstable particularly in an environment where I’m worried about the trip hazard. Then I suddenly realised, keeping the batteries away from the top of the stand would be better in fact. I’m trying to find out how long the long battery adapter cable is for the ML60. My lights could often be 7/8ft up. Do you have to clamp/hang the battery adapter to the light stand I expect? I’d prefer if I could clamp yo the base section if the stand so I can lower the light up and down without detaching the batteries to do so.
I’ve watched loads of your videos dude - your channel has been a real find! Keep it up and thankyou so much!
Just seeing the cable us 1.5m on Godox spec sheet. Yea think I’ll go with these ones!
Hell, this is hard to get in general...Amazon doesn’t have it available in the USA, and B&H has expected availability of 6-10 weeks. Any direct sources to purchase?
I have been trying to get an ETA from Jinbei on when they'll re-stock on Amazon, but I am having a hard time getting them to reply at all :-/
You could try their "e-store" here, but I don't know where they ship or pricing or anything www.ejinbei.com/
@@NewLayer site seems to be down :(
@@BrandonLuckain It's working for me... super weird.
I just ordered one on www.jinbei-deutschland.de
@@princetonvdb582 Nice! They seem to be able to stay in stock for the most part.
I bought this light and it’s really great! But my reflector doesn’t have an umbrella hole in it. 🤔
Weird! Nothing a drill won’t fix 😅
@@NewLayer hahahah I’m drilling mine then 🤷🏻♂️🤪
I just tested my light with 120fps and it has a flickering issue….
@@mustafak4378 Wow, that's very surprising! I tested it up to 240fps with no issues. I'm shocked to hear a modern COB has flickering issues, especially at 120, which is relatively slow. Are there any other lights turned on in the room while you're testing?
@@NewLayer Yea I was also very surprised. No, no other lights were turned on! But, I tested it with on AC and with batteries. I noticed that on AC there is no flickering! However when used with batteries it does flicker. I’ve used Neewer batteries, so not Jinbei’s NP-F batteries. Did you test yours with third party batteries? Thanks
Just ordered the Neewer Hy-1000 Li. Will make this a 2nd order. Do they make a 100 or 150 version?
They have the EF-200Bi and EF II 200, but they are a bit different. I’m trying to get ahold of those for a follow up video!
are 60W enough as a main light inside a 90cm Softbox for a video portrait indoor?
For indoor video portraits, yes! I used a 60 watt light for my talking head videos at only 35% brightness for a long time 👍
Thanks for sharing. Shame the lights only available at b&h.
I'm hoping they come back in stock on Amazon soon! Follow me on Instagram @newlayercom, because I'll definitely post there once they do :)
Is the ef 2 80 better 🤔
I don't even see an EF II 80, so I couldn't say, haha. I reviewed the 200 watt 2nd gen lights, which are great, they just don't have NP-F support: ua-cam.com/video/pCwH9fLdIkQ/v-deo.html
@@NewLayer thank you 🙏😇
Would you recommend this over the GVM P80S? Curious which is brighter and if the GVM needs color correction?
The P80S is dimmer (only by 1/5 of a stop or something) and lower color accuracy, basically really close to the SL60W: newlayer.com/gear/lights/compare?light1=GVM+LS-P80S&light2=Jinbei+EF+II+60
The build quality is similar to the Jinbei EF II 60 light, but the Jinbei uses a standard power cord, supports NP-F batteries, and has a slightly quieter fan.
If I had to buy one, it'd be the EF II 60, if you can find one at the moment! :'(
New Layer thanks again! Just the words I was after
@@NewLayer Wish I'd have known about this light 2 months ago before buying the GVMs. Do you think they'll mix well?
@@sklba632 I don't think the Mark II of this light came out that long ago. You can compare the 2 lights here: newlayer.com/gear/lights/compare?light1=Jinbei+EF+II+60&light2=GVM+LS-P80S
The P80S and Jinbei lights I measured are 400K off from each other color temperature-wise, and the P80S has a decent amount of magenta tint to it. So they could work together, but not super well without gelling them to match more closely.
I have an issue with this light. When powered by batteries, it doesn’t turn on. But if I plug it in the electric supply first, no problem, it turns on by batteries afterwards.
Is it a normal behavior, or should I ask for a replaced/repair?
I've heard this from a few other people. Apparently these lights are very picky about batteries, so if your batteries don't quite output 7.2-7.4V, they won't work. A lot of batteries output slightly lower voltage than they say, and most lights don't care, but this one does. Hope that helps.
@@NewLayer the funny thing is, I have the "official" Jinbei NPF batteries.
@@pogolas Ha! I'd definitely get in touch with them then for a replacement or refund!
Hi 👋
Can you recommend another softbox for this light ? I can’t find the loafas in Amazon . I would like at least a 90 cm softbox as you say that can be aprox the max size you can you is it with the light
Many thanks I like your channel very helpfully
I would HIGHLY recommend a collapsible beauty dish instead of a parabolic softbox. They are less deep, so less heavy overall, and less front heavy so they don't put as much pressure on the mount of the light. Since they're smaller they're also easier to handle.
Glow makes some, as does Laofas. I would recommend one around 28-36" as a good all-around softbox.
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@@NewLayer what brand for collapsible beauty dish?
@@somenbi264 Glow makes the best ones:
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geni.us/glowbeautydish34silver
geni.us/glowbeautydish42silver
Hi... Nice video... However how much is a battery duration
It depends! I just added more information to the pinned comment. Check that out and let me know if you have any other questions :)
Hi thanks for reply... However ur amazon link doesn't show this product. I wanted to buy it directly.. pls guide
@@sachind.1688 It's currently out of stock in the US, and although GeniusLink tries to automatically send you to the proper listing, but it may not be available in other countries.
Does it come with a carrying case? And how long do these batteries last? thanks!
No. And it depends on the batteries. You'll get 30 minutes to almost 2 hours depending on which ones you use. You can calculate run time based on battery capacity and wattage of the light.
I show how in this video: ua-cam.com/video/LWLDVyeuUNE/v-deo.html
@@NewLayer I've seen now the video and it's really helpful, thanks. I'm finally going for the sokani rgb which is 80W and 15V. So as i read from your fixed comment in that video, if i power it with 2 npf batteries of 88Wh, i can expect 1hour of full power more or less, right?
@@JaumeMS Yep, 88Wh of batteries will last an 80 watt light around 1 hour at 100% brightness. You'll need a dual NP-F battery plate since NP-F batteries are half the voltage as v-mounts. Or alternatively, just get a single v-mount battery instead.
For such fan noise level, should I remove the noise? I plan to create a tutorial video close up and I do not want to add any background music. btw I record sound with zoom H5. Do you have advice for this case? Thank you.
If the light is 3 feet or more from the microphone, you should have no issues. That goes for any light, not just this one. If you absolutely need the mic and light very, very close to each other, you would want a light that can run silently like the Godox SL150W II, Godox UL150, Godox ML60, Nanlite Forza 60, or something similar with a "fan off" feature. I have videos on all those lights on my channel.
With the price of the Godox of over $300, you are FAR AHEAD to buy the Amaran 100D. You get better build quality, brighter light, quiet fan, and at $200 it's a no brainer.
The build quality and fan noise on the Godox SL II is noticeably better than the Amaran COB lights, but if the prices are that different, the choice definitely becomes easier. Check out the Nanlite FS-150 too, I did a video here: ua-cam.com/video/NRn84iErwQA/v-deo.html
I would rather have the FS-150 than the Amaran 100/200 in most cases, even if it's gone up in price $20 or so since launch.
@@NewLayer - Thank you for that info. I was not familiar with the Nanlite. Nice review video. At that price point, and if the fan is as quiet as the Amaran 100d, the FS150 is certainly something I will consider. I can't imagine needing anything brighter than a 150 for what I do. I've been using the Amaran 100d on a film project for the past several weekends. It has been great, and the fan noise is a total non-issue. I am very pleased with how quiet it is. Also, the packaging of the 100d is a spongy foam compartmented cardboard box that has a little more functionality than rigid styrofoam packaging, in my opinion. I don't know how long the cardboard box will last and I will be looking for a new container for it in the future, but I will likely continue to use the foam compartmented packaging after the cardboard box is done.
I've not had any experience with Godox lights, but I've seen many videos complain about fan noise, or about how to replace the fan with a quieter fan. That's kept me away from considering them.
does the light charges the battery when plugged into the wall?
No you need a separate charger.
Can i use it for outdoor portrait?
With a softbox no, it's not bright enough. With the stock reflector, you could use it as a hard key light or a rim/hair light. Hope that helps!
Can you use a 37 inch softbox with it or is it too big?
You can, just may need to crank the handle down a good bit. I would highly recommend a slightly smaller collapsible beauty dish though.
Since it's half the depth of a parabolic, it's less heavy in general, and way less front heavy, so doesn't stress the mount nearly as much. You'll get the same quality of light as long as you're using the diffusion.
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is it enough to be used as a key light?
Yes, it's just as bright as other 60 watt COB lights, which are great for budget key lights indoors.
Could you also add a link to the softbox?
Ah, totally forgot! Added it in the description: geni.us/laofas28
What 200W+ LED would you recommend for accurate colour rendition for headshots and portraits?
If you do mostly photo, and some video, I would get the FV200 because in flash mode it's 4x brighter (2 full stops brighter) than all the 200 watt Godox lights in continuous mode.
I think it's a style but i think the main light on your face it's a bit too strong. Bit over exposed. I wonder if it's just my taste
Could be, each video is a bit different, and it can look vastly different based on what device you’re using 🤷♂️
What is the name of that handheld lightstand for jinbei?
It's a gimbal tripod + spigot adapter! It's the first thing I show in this video ua-cam.com/video/TV0dyXLLgRw/v-deo.html
Did you test with the 36" soft box? That's the size am looking to use with this light if it works perfectly fine then am getting it
SY It does work fine with no sagging with my 2 36” soft boxes, so unless you’re is super heavy then you should be good with a solid light stand 👍 I just wouldn’t say it’s the best choice if you consistently need to go bigger than 36”
SY I recommend beauty dishes because they are half the depth so less “tippy”.
This 34” is perfect for this light too geni.us/glowbeautydish34silver
@@NewLayer how long is the cable in case am not using battery?
SY I can check when I get home but 10’ maybe? It’s a standard cable so you can buy one as long as you want for cheap if you need something special.
@@NewLayer what about the neweer 36" softbox? i had this in mind before
You guys know i am getting this one 2
Boom! It's a great little light. Let me know how you like it :)
could you please specify which model of Sony NP battery should we look to buy, which is compatible with this light? Thanks!
Sorry, I don't have a list. As long as they meet specs (7.2-7.4V) they should all work. Some don't seem to live up to the specs they advertise, but there's no way to tell without trying.
Does the Godox P90H 90cm soft get along with it?
Yes, that's a Bowens mount softbox so it will work!
Might you be able to point me where to get the remote? I can't seem to find it on amazon...THANKS!
I just added it to the description, thanks for reminding me! geni.us/jinbeiefrc
@@NewLayer Thank YOU for the fast response!!
Does this light still work? Wondering how long it last before it breaks.
Yep, mine still works like new. I don't foresee it breaking unless you drop and break it. I did just get my hands on another battery powered option, which I'll try and review ASAP, because it looks promising.
It's the Genaray PortaBright and is 100W, uses proprietary batteries, and comes in daylight or bi-color:
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I haven't been able to test them yet since they just arrived yesterday, but you could check them out in the meantime. All I can say is they come with a great case and are built well, as good or better than the Godox SL60W.
I can’t wait 😊
Does the light temperature changing if you attach the reflector?
It does change, but so does every other light. It's kind of a hidden thing no one talks about, but every reflector I've ever tested (which is a lot) change the light temperature a few hundred Kelvin or so.
@@NewLayer thanks, i do appreciate your answer
Can it run with battery only??
It can run on batteries only, but you need 2 of them.
what type of no batteries does this take?
joe moss Sony NP-F style batteries amzn.to/32SLIcd