Rings of Power Season 2, Episode 6 BREAKDOWN

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  • @NerdoftheRings
    @NerdoftheRings  Місяць тому +48

    Save on your Displate order!: displate.com/nerdoftherings
    Discount code: NOTR

    • @mokeish
      @mokeish Місяць тому +5

      the true lines aren't just underminded, they're misunderstood, the writers think barrow wights are the souls of the dead somehow returned from beyond the void, they don't know how magic works or that is a beyond godlike ability that sauron does not have

    • @TheDeviousBandit
      @TheDeviousBandit Місяць тому +4

      In Norwegian smile is prounanced smil

    • @nomdeguerre8464
      @nomdeguerre8464 Місяць тому +2

      So, are you walking back that it was indeed Durin's Bane and NOT the Watcher that the dwarves are digging too deep to find?
      Because last review you didn't even consider the balrog

    • @TheDeviousBandit
      @TheDeviousBandit Місяць тому +1

      Have you considered sauron teleporting to kahazad dum and back ?

    • @NerdoftheRings
      @NerdoftheRings  Місяць тому +7

      @@nomdeguerre8464 I thought the water flinging up was the Watcher and that it was unrelated to the inevitable balrog confrontation. The balrog has been communicated in the show a lot, so I knew that was coming, but thought perhaps that scene was pointing toward there being many foul things they should fear.

  • @jamelephant
    @jamelephant Місяць тому +1182

    If they want to do call backs to the movies, then they should have Adar absolutely crushing some tomatoes for dinner

    • @Gebsequanimity9300
      @Gebsequanimity9300 Місяць тому +15

      lmao 😂😂😂

    • @christopherladka2463
      @christopherladka2463 Місяць тому +15

      I was surprised they didn't like come on guys they missed a lay up

    • @samsschool3639
      @samsschool3639 Місяць тому +41

      And have Galadriel sing a song for him

    • @wakizashi-f6s
      @wakizashi-f6s Місяць тому +1

      man you r perfect

    • @AmyBrueckman
      @AmyBrueckman Місяць тому +13

      I straight up expected them to do that the second they showed Adar and a plate of food

  • @blackexican08
    @blackexican08 Місяць тому +153

    Say what you will about the show but the actor playing sauron is KILLING it man switches between comforting and conniving like a pro

    • @stephenlandale631
      @stephenlandale631 Місяць тому

      Amen!

    • @landonloux8235
      @landonloux8235 Місяць тому +13

      Exactly dude. It’s def different from the source material but it’s ok. It’s an adaptation and I’m loving it

    • @OG-97
      @OG-97 Місяць тому +1

      Agreed, loving the switch up and dwarves, not so much the harfoots

    • @devanman7920
      @devanman7920 Місяць тому +4

      Agreed. The shows a real let down but he's clearly a very good actor

    • @becausebuzzbomb6133
      @becausebuzzbomb6133 18 днів тому +1

      He is extremely good with his facial expressions and body language. I didn't dig him in Season 1, but in Season 2 he does indeed shine.

  • @griegomas
    @griegomas Місяць тому +575

    There is a serious scale problem. It feels like there are maybe 10-20k people in the whole world, including orcs and elves.

    • @Max1990Power
      @Max1990Power Місяць тому +23

      Remember at the wedding of Elessar at Minas Tirith. When the camera focus on the hobbits and then pan out to see everyone bow to them. That gives a sign of the scope

    • @jamiegaff6150
      @jamiegaff6150 Місяць тому +23

      tbf at the trial of Eendil and Miriel there are people on the backgrounds on the cliffs but they are so hard to see, but I would agree, the scale and writing has been an absolute car crash apart from annatars scenes they have been pretty good

    • @Max1990Power
      @Max1990Power Місяць тому +15

      @@jamiegaff6150 we got a glimpse of the scope for the orc army when adar showed galadriel. But it was very dark. Difficult to see. Almost battle at winterfell dark

    • @Tomy-im8zl
      @Tomy-im8zl Місяць тому +22

      Come on! There are at least 15 people on Numenor... ok maybe 14 since Valandil died...

    • @TribeofBenjamin1
      @TribeofBenjamin1 Місяць тому

      That's such a low number. It's over 1 million definitely, regardless what numbers you believer

  • @StrayBee
    @StrayBee Місяць тому +415

    Did anyone else notice that Stranger and Tom were basically going
    "I had a vision of my friends going to die"
    "not yet finished, your training is. Lead to the dark side, it might"

    • @Bloomazz
      @Bloomazz Місяць тому +14

      Yea I'd say Bombadil is their most egregious example of character metamorphosis. They could have replaced his role with Farmer Maggot and it'd be probably more in line with what we know

    • @matt-tf2ob
      @matt-tf2ob Місяць тому

      Nobody cares about his friend going to die for the Mission/Bigger picture is the only thing that matters and why Tom is right.

    • @Dantick09
      @Dantick09 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@matt-tf2obthat is why this is not Gandalf, Gandalf as no problem spliting and going off on his own business

    • @matt-tf2ob
      @matt-tf2ob Місяць тому +2

      @@Dantick09 He probably is Gandalf cause who cares about the 2 not so famous Blue Wizards.

    • @daves5872
      @daves5872 Місяць тому +6

      I feel like part of the ‘test’ is that the Stranger will forego finding his staff, his power, in order to save his friends and this prove his worth.

  • @ed.659
    @ed.659 Місяць тому +180

    My favourite quote from the entire show was in this episode:
    "Put yer beard into it!" said by a mining dwarf to another.

    • @NerdoftheRings
      @NerdoftheRings  Місяць тому +36

      Wait…are you serious? I totally missed that if it was actually said. 😂

    • @BnBwithMe
      @BnBwithMe Місяць тому +14

      @@NerdoftheRingsits in there, I only caught it because of subtitles. But i loved it hah

    • @ed.659
      @ed.659 Місяць тому +5

      @@NerdoftheRings Yes! I'm obsessed with it. It is said at the beginning of the "Annatar in Khazad-dum" bit.

    • @snickerdoodles787
      @snickerdoodles787 Місяць тому +10

      My subtitles said bread instead of beard

    • @christopherrichardbass-bar5727
      @christopherrichardbass-bar5727 Місяць тому

      @@NerdoftheRingsNah, I heard this!

  • @NerdoftheRings
    @NerdoftheRings  Місяць тому +152

    EDIT: After some folks pointed it out, I did see that there's some (I think CGI?) extras in the sea trial scene higher on the ridge line. Very easy to miss, imo, but I will credit them in that there ARE more people present.

    • @RobKlarmann
      @RobKlarmann Місяць тому +13

      Ok. But your point is still valid nonetheless. It's really not that hard or expensive to double or triple the extras with CGI. We're living in the age of A.I. and you're telling me that should be an issue?

    • @jseels
      @jseels Місяць тому +5

      I agree with you - one big weak point of this show is they don’t PACK the cities or civs with enough people or hustle and bustle. One thing PJ’s film always did well was MASSIVE SCALE. It always felt larger than life and so real even though it was fantasy.

    • @kvacm
      @kvacm Місяць тому +3

      CGI or not, empty middle stairs in the middle is a bad choice.

    • @Wallyworld30
      @Wallyworld30 Місяць тому +10

      @@jseels Laketown feels like it had 100x the people of Numenor.

    • @TarisRedwing
      @TarisRedwing Місяць тому +1

      still the scale feels off when they should be showing more people during some scenes. Like bro does all the Mithril come from that one corner the Dwarfs were chased off in the weird bat scene.

  • @calebdulinsky3855
    @calebdulinsky3855 Місяць тому +764

    It’s weird how the show feels so small. You have no sense of scale that Numenor could possibly raise an army of tens of thousands to invade middle earth and be so fearsome that Sauron quakes at their advance. You have no sense that the Noldor in Middle Earth, despite waning as the age passes, are still quite numerous and extremely powerful. All we get to see is a few dozen Numenoreans at a time, a few random elves at a time. There’s no sense of scale with the show and it feels so small.

    • @alexvinci169
      @alexvinci169 Місяць тому +20

      It is still a TV show. Plus, we had so far no reason at all for huge mass scenes in the open. But it does really help to watch that series not on a smart phone or tablet. That show looks pretty huge and epic on our huge flat screen ;)

    • @jimzimmer2048
      @jimzimmer2048 Місяць тому +57

      @@alexvinci169 100 mil per episode

    • @terrasur4168
      @terrasur4168 Місяць тому +86

      @@alexvinci169 Literally more than the budget of Peter Jackson's trilogy. There is no excuse.

    • @turnipsociety706
      @turnipsociety706 Місяць тому

      ​@terrasur4168 big armies are boring. You can go watch them in chinese megaproductions

    • @Blisterdude123
      @Blisterdude123 Місяць тому +27

      @@alexvinci169 That excuse simply does not fly when some streaming shows these days quadruple the budget of an entire movie.

  • @michaelkelleypoetry
    @michaelkelleypoetry Місяць тому +200

    Actually, now that I think about it, just because Adar thinks the crown has special powers to kill Sauron if the Elven Rings are used with that, that doesn't mean he's right. And we know he ultimately fails, so maybe this is just the show showing how Adar is playing with powers too big for him that he doesn't understand.

    • @bspitler0
      @bspitler0 Місяць тому

      Dude brained Sauron. If he can do that he's just fine.

    • @mimimaitri1
      @mimimaitri1 Місяць тому +17

      I was thinking it’s just a plot device to get the crown back to Sauron. And he gets to kill Adar and take his army.

    • @MaroLitraTV
      @MaroLitraTV Місяць тому +3

      I wonder... Noone noticed Adars gauntlets? 😎

    • @Max1990Power
      @Max1990Power Місяць тому +3

      ​@@MaroLitraTVi did. Haha. Convenient

    • @TheJmlew11
      @TheJmlew11 Місяць тому +2

      We will see if that is the case. That said this show has done little to display that it wouldn’t just make the crown the magical key to killing Sauron.

  • @niallgaffney2475
    @niallgaffney2475 Місяць тому +348

    Khazad-dûm is huge….but Disa and Durin are going to stop ALL the mining Home Alone style in that one hallway.

    • @eyekay103
      @eyekay103 Місяць тому +9

      Hahaha this! I can't wait to see the trip wires and illusions that an entire army of dwarves is with them!

    • @Zzues
      @Zzues Місяць тому +3

      I'm sure she will toss some oil on the floor and slip them up!

    • @nehriim3748
      @nehriim3748 Місяць тому +9

      Wasn't it specifically the mythril vein?

    • @niallgaffney2475
      @niallgaffney2475 Місяць тому +18

      And that’s the only entrance to it?
      It’s the same as Disa dropping her orb and discovering a new cave like 10 feet from the market. Khazad-dum is as big or small as the writers need it to be for the scene they’re writing.

    • @deankruse2891
      @deankruse2891 Місяць тому +1

      Silver tuna tonight!

  • @rini6
    @rini6 Місяць тому +31

    I keep on thinking of Jack Black when I see Tom Bombadil

    • @scribbleknit
      @scribbleknit Місяць тому +1

      I do too! I keep expecting him to start singing “Peaches! “

    • @is_bolo_e_cha
      @is_bolo_e_cha Місяць тому +1

      I was having this strange feeling every time I saw him, and finally I understand what it was.

  • @NerdoftheRings
    @NerdoftheRings  Місяць тому +331

    NOTE: I'm not saying things can never reference the original LOTR story (and/or films). I'm saying it needs to be things that make sense. A great example is Elendil's words when coming to dwell in Middle-earth, which is what Aragorn sings at his coronation in the ROTK film.

    • @martinravn2924
      @martinravn2924 Місяць тому +42

      Agreed the line form bombadil made no sense in that moment.

    • @dashwoodhouse11
      @dashwoodhouse11 Місяць тому +26

      I agree with you too! The way Rings of Power is doing this now is very random. I think they want it to come of as "see? We do reference the books!" when it comes off as them trying too hard but not getting the effect. They're trying to trigger nostalgia, but it comes off as cheap. I have not watched the whole recap yet, but I remember the part about "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give that to them?" It's a favorite Gandalf moment of mine, and to be used that way is just... ugh
      Edit: Got to the part about this line. Was super sure that a lot got bothered about that line!

    • @Frankje01
      @Frankje01 Місяць тому +6

      @@dashwoodhouse11 agreed, seems they are so afraid to stand on their own or that their audience can enjoy the story as it stands itself that they feel the need to have a constant connection to the movies. That's why we get stuff like Gandalf in the second age. They seem to think that without these known characters there just wouldnt be enough to tell an original story (to the average viewer). Which is ridiculous.

    • @imagieb8898
      @imagieb8898 Місяць тому +12

      Corey made a similar point, except he goes in depth to analyze the references in an attempt to understand, instead of dismissing them as nails on a chalkboard.

    • @dashwoodhouse11
      @dashwoodhouse11 Місяць тому +5

      @@Frankje01 Yes! I think the showrunners (and whoever the higher ups are involved in this show) severely underestimate what the audience can enjoy and understand. They thought the elves would not fall for Sauron being Annatar - but that is the actual story that Tolkien did create and it worked. It comes off to me as 1) them not knowing anything about the lore 2) them thinking they can do better
      I understand that they don't have rights to a lot of things, but why couldn't they make their own lines that would suit the story better? Are they so incapable of doing that that they have to copy-paste memorable lines in the book and movies? They have done so well with the Numenor story here, and I'm not sure why it's not consistent with the Stranger story.

  • @martinravn2924
    @martinravn2924 Місяць тому +1227

    I don't like hating on this show as it's a good way to see more of middle earth, but one of things that irritate me the most is the way they portray the elf's. In this show they're just men with pointy ears.

    • @giovannischulze1253
      @giovannischulze1253 Місяць тому +214

      how dare you label them as "men"! they are a diverse crowd of Google interns, from all walks of life!

    • @Cmelonie
      @Cmelonie Місяць тому +85

      I think part of that probably comes from setting we have seen them in thus far. When the elves are given ‘elf things’ to do, it seems to succeed for the most part. Gil-Galad gives a larger than life feel, Elrond really seems to capture the wisdom of the elves, Cirdan their ancient nature, and Arondir shows us the classic badass side to their warriors.

    • @jeffreyyoung6714
      @jeffreyyoung6714 Місяць тому +93

      It’s not middle earth dude it’s a fan fic

    • @Chimpmanboom
      @Chimpmanboom Місяць тому +25

      Yes! Elves are supposed to be aliens that are almost perfect not this bs

    • @Rauruatreides
      @Rauruatreides Місяць тому +20

      ​@jeffreyyoung6714 it's a middle earth adaptation whether you like it or not (for the record I think it's mostly badly written).

  • @punithkumarb9038
    @punithkumarb9038 Місяць тому +536

    "Bats frighten me. It's time my enemies shared my dread"
    - Disa

    • @papabearlives9995
      @papabearlives9995 Місяць тому

      So she's batman lol.

    • @benburkin7942
      @benburkin7942 Місяць тому +20

      "I'm Bat Disa!"

    • @RazorFang18
      @RazorFang18 Місяць тому +2

      You so right for this, lol. xD

    • @bambulkomccloud3983
      @bambulkomccloud3983 Місяць тому

      @@punithkumarb9038 Considering this was filmed during or shortly after covid, when everybody was rightfully terrified of bats, their reaction was totally understandable...

    • @JordanDavila
      @JordanDavila Місяць тому +7

      Disa nuts

  • @MrHobbes6
    @MrHobbes6 Місяць тому +25

    Really felt Annatar's line to Celebrimbor: "One last time." So damn cold. Chilling delivery by Charlie Vickers, and heartbreaking reaction from Charles Edwards.
    The magma of Mount Doom"--gonna shout it from the rooftops even if I'm wrong, but I really feel like that's the One Ring being forged, and I think Halbrand used the Southlands sigil to make it at the end of season one.
    I loved Annatar's illusion of Eregion and the transition back to reality, with the exception of the bad direction of extras. The elves in this show too often feel like nothing but pointy-eared humans, and in that scene they were behaving like unimaginative depictions of medieval peasants: running around in mindless panic, falling down and even shoving each other. I get it that they're not used to their peace being threatened, but I feel like there should still be some foundation of wisdom and grace.

  • @bmabs35
    @bmabs35 Місяць тому +142

    Why on earth did Galadriel tell the leader of an Orc horde where her Ring is, who's carrying it, and where he's headed?

    • @Wustenfuchs109
      @Wustenfuchs109 Місяць тому +32

      Because the show needed it. Did you just dare imply intelligence?! This is Rings of Power, we don't do that here.

    • @amirbsh3759
      @amirbsh3759 Місяць тому +3

      Adar either said you gave me much more information than I wanted.

    • @WolvesbaneNetwork
      @WolvesbaneNetwork Місяць тому +22

      @@bmabs35 because as is revealed at the end. she's assuming that all Adar has is a small warband not an entire army. Elrond showing up with an army is as much a threat as it is reassurance. She says Adar can't take sauron on himself so not only is she going to reveal that she can help Adar but that an army of elves is coming so he doesn't have a choice. Then he pulls the rug out from under her and tells her that she underestimated him.

    • @Alfie-ps6ll
      @Alfie-ps6ll Місяць тому +2

      ​@@WolvesbaneNetwork to genuinely believe he had one legion is laughable. She's one of many dumb characters

    • @isaacm2374
      @isaacm2374 Місяць тому

      Plot holes. Tolkien's lore is full of them. So are the Lord of the Rings movies

  • @glowingeddy
    @glowingeddy Місяць тому +180

    When he said precious I was half expecting him to look at the camera and give a wink

    • @gavinwoods2737
      @gavinwoods2737 Місяць тому +1

      😂

    • @Books_Lot
      @Books_Lot Місяць тому +1

      He well might with how deep this movie is in poo

    • @TheMarmara2023
      @TheMarmara2023 Місяць тому +2

      Then a jazz band starts playing

    • @JyrkiS
      @JyrkiS Місяць тому

      "The Dwarves had proved untameable..The only power over them that the Rings wielded was to inflame their hearts with a greed of gold and PRECIOUS things...they could not be enslaved to another will..All the more did Sauron hate the possessors and desire to dispossess them."

    • @devanman7920
      @devanman7920 Місяць тому

      Same 😂

  • @Henez89
    @Henez89 Місяць тому +164

    I hated hearing Tom use the Gandalf line. Nothing less satisfying than a prequel taking an iconic line or action and revealing that it was simply someone repeating something they saw before.

    • @AnnNunnally
      @AnnNunnally Місяць тому +25

      And totally ruining the Gandalf line. The writers need to reread the source material. Then write "I will not misquote Tolkein" 100 times.

    • @scoobysnacker1999
      @scoobysnacker1999 Місяць тому +11

      Agreed, and it made zero sense in that context. Gandalf said it to Frodo, in reference to Bilbo NOT killing an altogether wretched creature in Gollum, saying he may yet have a purpose or value. In this, Tom is telling "stranger" to let a generally good person in Nori, one who befriended and then stuck with him, leave her to die and go try to find his destiny (which he doesn't have a good idea of yet anyway). While I'd like the halfling storyline to go away, it would be pretty callous in-story to do it that way, particularly when Gandalf later makes the statement:
      "The rule of no realm is mine, neither of Gondor nor any other, great or small. But all worthy things that are in peril as the world now stands, those are my care. And for my part, I shall not wholly fail of my task, though Gondor should perish, if anything passes through this night that can still grow fair or bear fruit and flower again in days to come. For I also am a steward. Did you not know?"

    • @Wallyworld30
      @Wallyworld30 Місяць тому +1

      @@scoobysnacker1999 Gandalf loves the Hobbit's he will not turn his back on Nori. I don't even get why he should? He can grab his staff off those dead tree's in minutes and the halflings are only a mile or so away. If Tom wants Gandalf to turn his back on his helpless friends because it could take up a day of his time then Gandalf is better off without him. Jolly Tom is not so Jolly in this show.

    • @yaroslavgerzhedovich6064
      @yaroslavgerzhedovich6064 Місяць тому +5

      Gandalf shouldn't be here 3000+ years before he actually came.

    • @NuggetEternal
      @NuggetEternal Місяць тому +2

      Tom just feels so off. I get that maybe he's younger but his demeanor is as cold as ice. No warmth whatsoever. Not at all how I imagined him from the books.

  • @acrustykrab
    @acrustykrab Місяць тому +82

    The Gandalf line from Tom barely even fit the situation, just had to stick it in there. It fit very well for the Gollum/Frodo/Bilbo dynamic but this time just was off.

    • @triko03
      @triko03 Місяць тому +1

      In the books Bombadil was always a bit „accept your faith and don‘t be scared“ for Bombadil from the books it was a quite fitting line

    • @acrustykrab
      @acrustykrab Місяць тому +3

      ​@triko03 I agree with you that it could fit his character bc Jolly Tom would be a fitting guide for istari, given his wisdom, but in the conversation it was odd. The gandalf line works as a calming and wise thought in response to reckless death dealing or bloodlust. The quote does not discourage saving a life. "Some that die deserve life" is not a literal guide, it just means sometimes death finds those who don't deserve it, and to come to terms with unfortunate death. Not that giving someone life, or trying to save them, is the wrong choice.
      It can sort of make sense if Tom wants wizard to just accept his friend will die, or that her death is set in stone, but I don't think Tom would ever do that, it's quite cruel.
      If his friend died, then Tom would use those words to try to comfort him

    • @politicallyincorrect2564
      @politicallyincorrect2564 Місяць тому

      Yeah, like yoh have read the books 😂😂 you just trying to justify the series stupidity in copying ​@@triko03

    • @mimimaitri1
      @mimimaitri1 Місяць тому +1

      They really love putting book and movie quotes in this show, even if given to a different character and in a different context. It could be done better.

    • @windenast
      @windenast Місяць тому +4

      Was the worst. Geez.. Amazon is so stupid.

  • @michaelh3800
    @michaelh3800 Місяць тому +148

    If you look closely on the water edge scene there's a huge crowd watching in the background.

    • @tamarinmangold1414
      @tamarinmangold1414 Місяць тому +5

      Yes, was looking for this comment. 👌🏻

    • @justingriffiths3466
      @justingriffiths3466 Місяць тому +5

      Came here to point this out too😅

    • @michaelh3800
      @michaelh3800 Місяць тому +12

      It also looks like it was added late to make it look like a big event. The fact that you have to strain your eyes to see it is a problem

    • @gilgamesh8334
      @gilgamesh8334 Місяць тому +1

      It’s not really huge.

    • @SK4M_Freal
      @SK4M_Freal Місяць тому +1

      Which part? Anyone have a time stamp?

  • @tiabright2724
    @tiabright2724 Місяць тому +9

    I actually love the fact that Annatar emphasizes how much these rings are "precious" because it's a part of the act. The real precious ring is not here yet. So the overuse of "Peter Jackson- trilogy" slogans NEVER loose its true meanings for me - this is where it all begins! They have to talk about the rings like this because Annatar is right - the Rings are the true relics of power of the 4th age, the Simarils are not even heard of in the Peter Jackson trilogy
    Also Thank You @NOTR, I absolutely love your channel. I watch all your videos. Much Aloha from Maui, Hawaii.

  • @quickhands7008
    @quickhands7008 Місяць тому +140

    Thank you for focusing on the Tom version of Gandalf’s line, I was legitimately in shock that they somehow turned that quote into something about not saving your friends.

    • @troywilliams9688
      @troywilliams9688 Місяць тому +9

      The whole time I was thinking of Luke's vision while training with Yoda and him trying to convince Luke to stay on the path and not running off half cocked to play hero.

    • @eugene8498
      @eugene8498 Місяць тому

      @@troywilliams9688 Thank you, now I know what they have been doing. Cause I never understood why any Istar needed training in magic.

    • @davidbeer5015
      @davidbeer5015 Місяць тому +5

      Or…maybe it’s a test? And the true answer *is* to save his friends?

    • @eugene8498
      @eugene8498 Місяць тому +1

      @@davidbeer5015 I sure hope so. We'll have to wait and see, but history tells me the writers ain't that bright.

    • @davidbeer5015
      @davidbeer5015 Місяць тому +1

      @eugene8498 History has been less kind to you, it seems. I’ve honestly thought a good chunk of what they’ve been doing works, and has me fairly confident that that is the intended angle. They’ve gotten a good bit right. Elendil’s whole sequence here alone is fabulous.
      Just because I’ve seen others make the comparison, he isn’t doing the Yoda, but the reverse. Yoda wanted Luke to forsake his friends for destiny, but Tolkien-wise, I feel like the idea would be the opposite, and that that will be the route they’ll take.

  • @elijahking6766
    @elijahking6766 Місяць тому +339

    The Numenoreans flip flop like an Olympic game of ping pong.

    • @AnnNunnally
      @AnnNunnally Місяць тому +29

      There are not enough of them, either. The crowd work in this show is abysmal!

    • @troywilliams9688
      @troywilliams9688 Місяць тому +4

      They're really making a mess of the gods tally of who gets drowned and who gets saved

    • @vng
      @vng Місяць тому +9

      The Numeroreans look dumb because characters cannot be more intelligent than their writers.

    • @pandorasbox9294
      @pandorasbox9294 Місяць тому

      It’s no wonder they parish 😂

    • @justrandom4304
      @justrandom4304 Місяць тому

      They are men after all lol

  • @J0HNJ0RDAN
    @J0HNJ0RDAN Місяць тому +253

    Removing the Stranger/DarkWizard/Harfoot story would elevate this show immensely.

    • @nancyhayes9958
      @nancyhayes9958 Місяць тому +2

      Yes, it would. At the very least shoving in into the next season would help.

    • @zoe0abundant
      @zoe0abundant Місяць тому +7

      It seems like they have no connection to the other storylines. They have to cross over at some point or it is basically just two shows taking place at the same time.

    • @Poopsicle43
      @Poopsicle43 Місяць тому +1

      @@zoe0abundantI mean, the stranger knows about Sauron and his evils, so I’m sure at some point the stranger will have a conflict with Sauron

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil Місяць тому +4

      That is why Episode 5 was pretty good.

    • @5quepasa
      @5quepasa Місяць тому

      In the first season, I would disagree immensely, but I have not seen anything that ties them in with the rest of the show even thematically this season.

  • @RangerHouston
    @RangerHouston Місяць тому +27

    Annatar walking up behind Celebrimbor with his hammer behind his back had me sweating lmao

    • @nancyhayes9958
      @nancyhayes9958 Місяць тому +1

      Celebrimbor is safe until he forges the Nine. Then, all bets are off. Besides, Sauron wouldn’t be merciful enough to give one of his victims a quick death.

  • @boobootittleman7299
    @boobootittleman7299 Місяць тому +228

    Shout out to Disa recreating the bat cave scene from Batman Begins.

    • @LOT9T
      @LOT9T Місяць тому

      I was thinking it was morbin time myself but OK!

    • @dominickdonmez19
      @dominickdonmez19 Місяць тому

      For it was cool igaf

    • @nomdeguerre8464
      @nomdeguerre8464 Місяць тому +13

      Beyond cringe.

    • @dominickdonmez19
      @dominickdonmez19 Місяць тому +1

      @@nomdeguerre8464 was fire 🔥🔥🔥

    • @nomdeguerre8464
      @nomdeguerre8464 Місяць тому +4

      @@dominickdonmez19 yeah, you have said that about 10 times. Almost as if it is your job to do so.

  • @gffg387
    @gffg387 Місяць тому +243

    Favorite character so far: Glug. My guy just wants the best for his wife and kid.

    • @RobKlarmann
      @RobKlarmann Місяць тому +7

      Amen to that! Good on him for not deserting the army. Hope he pulls through...

    • @gffg387
      @gffg387 Місяць тому +21

      @@RobKlarmann Dude, Glug dying will be the most sad thing ever.

    • @iamrubenmes
      @iamrubenmes Місяць тому +14

      Right? He's a cool dude. Unfortunately, that reflects poorly on Amazon for making us root for him.

    • @bspitler0
      @bspitler0 Місяць тому +7

      Imagine Glug being the one to kill everyone important for the rest of the show.

    • @PurdyGood
      @PurdyGood Місяць тому +3

      Every time I see him on screen I imagine his epic moment where he 1v1’s one of our heroes and gets the upper hand. Then he gets a bunch of screen time in the next episode and dies by the end of it.

  • @awesomehpt8938
    @awesomehpt8938 Місяць тому +497

    Celebrimbor shouldn’t feel bad for forgetting that woman’s name I can’t remember the names of pretty much all of the made up characters in this show.

    • @NerdoftheRings
      @NerdoftheRings  Місяць тому +124

      lol! I almost made a joke about understanding him not remembering her name because it doesn't appear in the books. haha

    • @nomdeguerre8464
      @nomdeguerre8464 Місяць тому +5

      Easily forgettable

    • @turnipsociety706
      @turnipsociety706 Місяць тому +5

      "Made up" is not what you expected? You wanted historically accurate and documented real people?

    • @srk4044
      @srk4044 Місяць тому +12

      ​@@turnipsociety706I think they mean made up for the show, and not coming from JRR Tolkien

    • @fishjcb
      @fishjcb Місяць тому +8

      @@turnipsociety706are you aware that the show has source material?

  • @lothos-tu4uh
    @lothos-tu4uh Місяць тому +15

    ...why does Celebrimbor (Feanors grandson) look older than Cirdan (one of the oldest elves alive at this time)...? 🤔

    • @Askyl
      @Askyl Місяць тому +6

      Because in this adaption, Humans are cast as characters playing Elves. Unfortunetly, they didn't get the rights to any boats to valinor to go get some real elves. Tolkien Estate holds tight on those rights. Legend says Jackson only got to go pick up one elf and brought back Thranduil to play him self in The Hobbit.

    • @alphabarre9096
      @alphabarre9096 28 днів тому

      You probably think everything is real.

  • @ModernCowboy78
    @ModernCowboy78 Місяць тому +75

    I do have a hard time believing the Elvs would panic like they showed in this episode.

    • @janatman
      @janatman Місяць тому +10

      Preach! I also have a hard time believing that elves wouldn't have seen the approach long before the orcs are standing just across the river when any average Joe Schmoe human would've spotted them.

    • @Sportsfan94
      @Sportsfan94 Місяць тому +2

      That was my first thought lol

    • @ModernCowboy78
      @ModernCowboy78 Місяць тому +1

      I'm a fan of this show as I like anything LOTR as we don't get that much live action but this is an oversite.

    • @ModernCowboy78
      @ModernCowboy78 Місяць тому

      @@djamel-arbouche yeah that is strange.

    • @axellofgren7679
      @axellofgren7679 Місяць тому +5

      if you read the silmarillion I think you wouldn't think of it being that weird. Elves are more human like than most people think. Of course they have this "elf aura" around them, but they are far from perfect.

  • @Inner_Wings
    @Inner_Wings Місяць тому +552

    Can we agree that for god's sake, legions of orcs this near should have been goddamn spotted by the city ?

    • @johnglue1744
      @johnglue1744 Місяць тому +36

      Hahahaha do you’re saying someone possibly could’ve seen all those campfires?

    • @nomdeguerre8464
      @nomdeguerre8464 Місяць тому +35

      All 50 or so of them.

    • @TurinStark5
      @TurinStark5 Місяць тому +24

      Exactly, it's just so idiotic

    • @jasonmarbach
      @jasonmarbach Місяць тому +38

      It’s almost like elven hubris coupled with annatar’s manipulation is a terrible combination or something 🥴

    • @laodaron
      @laodaron Місяць тому +40

      Without this feeling antagonistic, are you aware that Sauron, hidden as Anatar, also known as The Great Deceiver, is deceiving the elves of Eregion?

  • @randimccone
    @randimccone Місяць тому +126

    Annatar's illusion conjuring near the end was fkn perfect 👌 best thread of the series. Also Elendil is badass and I'm here for it!

    • @randimccone
      @randimccone Місяць тому +4

      Also, sometimes I agree the prequelitis is too much , for the use of the word precious, I found it perfect:
      Pre-cious
      adjective
      (of an object, substance, or resource) of great value; not to be wasted or treated carelessly.
      "precious works of art"

    • @nancyhayes9958
      @nancyhayes9958 Місяць тому +2

      The actor playing Sauron is having way too much fun and killing the role, but I could have lived without the “precious” comment.

  • @kevz2474
    @kevz2474 Місяць тому +447

    Numenorians and Elves in this show are just regular dudes that never left their home town lol

    • @supremeotaku6607
      @supremeotaku6607 Місяць тому +14

      Accurate

    • @yoyomayne
      @yoyomayne Місяць тому +11

      Numenorians are pieces of crap in this show except for Muriel, Elendil and their loyalists

    • @leyubar1
      @leyubar1 Місяць тому +8

      It’s difficult to represent a race of 7ft humans without having 5’10” humans stood next to them

    • @harisabram4767
      @harisabram4767 Місяць тому +3

      It is a drama series not a movie. I know they talk about a big budget but that is spread over many series.

    • @kmook76
      @kmook76 Місяць тому +12

      @@leyubar1 Hmm if only they could use body doubles, camera tricks or choosing taller and shorter actors like in some other trilogy.

  • @dallinadams9422
    @dallinadams9422 Місяць тому +4

    Like always, I love your reviews. You are cool and collected providing a well educated but still unbiased opinion, giving vent to frustrating moments, acknowledging when you were mistaken, and giving praise to moments where they actually do a good job. I definitely agree with your frustration of recycling profound lines and putting them out of context. Also, no kidding about the quick travel, 300 MILES? Definitely just a days walk away... You would think they would be carrying more when they are traveling, such as packs or pack animals. They make it seem like the elves live right on the doorstep of Khazad-Dum with how often they travel between the two.
    I do agree though that overall Season 2 is better than Season 1 as it is more in line with the canon.
    I honestly have no idea how they plan on arranging events though with how compressed they have made it. I wonder at what point Sauron will actually forge the One Ring, something that needs to happen at least before he gets captured and brought to Numenor.

  • @haileyranson8255
    @haileyranson8255 Місяць тому +3

    I know its not really related to anything mentioned in this video, but I love the musical theme used to represent Numenor!

  • @saphyrionelendilion7166
    @saphyrionelendilion7166 Місяць тому +184

    I think this season is far from great, but I admit I really appreciate the way the are making Sauron such a manipulator by pushing Adar in attacking Eregion for him

    • @NerdoftheRings
      @NerdoftheRings  Місяць тому +110

      The Sauron manipulation is top of the list for things done well imo. Seeing him nudge people like chess pieces has been fun to see.

    • @TmHudsonArt
      @TmHudsonArt Місяць тому +9

      @@NerdoftheRings This was the main thing I wanted to watch the show for as Sauron's methods in the second age always interested me and i am glad they are delivering well on that part of the story at least. Looking forward to how he does the same with Pharazon in Numenor...

    • @jseels
      @jseels Місяць тому +12

      Charley Vickers is one of the best actors and parts of the show! Elindil is right up there as well!

    • @TomBombadil676
      @TomBombadil676 Місяць тому

      And you're satisfied?

    • @Wustenfuchs109
      @Wustenfuchs109 Місяць тому +3

      Except that his manipulation and power are misrepresented. But, characters are always as smart as people writing them - so nothing better could be expected from these writers anyway. For an example how it should be done, just look at all other shows and films that had a surprise twist and good manipulators - when a smart writer is sitting at the table, they are fooling you as well, you don't get the truth until the very end and things fall into place. In this show, Sauron fooled no one, especially not the audience. The show made characters fooled by him because they needed it to happen - but made absolutely no effort to make it believable - instead, they made all characters Sauron interacts with retarded, so he can look like a smart master manipulator.

  • @NotSeregnar
    @NotSeregnar Місяць тому +43

    There were a few scenes in this episode where I got the feeling Sauron wanted a taller tower to look out of.

    • @jj48
      @jj48 Місяць тому +2

      "Eh, Elves have OK eyesight, I guess, but what I REALLY need is to be a giant, flaming Eye!"

    • @MSHKYT
      @MSHKYT Місяць тому +1

      Saruman: Sauron’s gaze can pierce cloud, shadow, earth, and flesh.
      He doesn't need a watch tower.

    • @TehDMBfan
      @TehDMBfan Місяць тому +1

      ​@@MSHKYTyou know Saruman was just exaggerating in order to elevate his new master. Otherwise he would have found the one ring

  • @nicholasmaddocks7545
    @nicholasmaddocks7545 Місяць тому +116

    Honestly, Owain Arthur, Charlie Vickers, and Lloyd Owen as Prince Durin, Sauron and Elendil respectively, are absolutely slaying this season. Their performances are well done and very believable.

    • @BlueforReason
      @BlueforReason Місяць тому +10

      I felt the hype with saurons slow motion stride and smile

    • @dutchkel
      @dutchkel Місяць тому +12

      Nobody wants to congratulate Morffyd I see. She's an excellent actress.

    • @attackfox
      @attackfox Місяць тому +5

      They are the three carrying the entire show

    • @kraaaah2823
      @kraaaah2823 Місяць тому +8

      I felt like in this episode, Lloyd solidified his casting as THE only guy to play Elendil. Like I can't envision anyone but Viggo playing Aragorn.

    • @Bayard1503
      @Bayard1503 Місяць тому +3

      @@dutchkel She really isn't in this show... great actors can make even cringe lines work, she never does here

  • @Siobhan-yw5sb
    @Siobhan-yw5sb Місяць тому +3

    Love these videos, love the discernment between the books and the choices of the programme folks but my god, how is this not simply an amazing show? If we go back to the dark ages of only having a cartoon, nerdom will deserve what befalls it!!

  • @fenthras9463
    @fenthras9463 Місяць тому +17

    I don't fully understand how to vocalize my feelings... but Rings of Power feels remarkably low-budget considering how much money has been poured into it. Something about it feels small in scale, which is deeply confounding because we're told these events are meant to be world-shaking.

  • @hannahdaisy6905
    @hannahdaisy6905 Місяць тому +124

    I don't mind the "precious" references by Sauron. After all the one ring came from him and it seems that people refer to it as precious without even realising it. It shows the influence that Sauron and the ring have over everyone. For him to be using it in a prequel makes sense if it's his preferred choice of language. It would then later explain why others refer to the ring in this way too. It further shows how pervasive his words are.

    • @luchi850
      @luchi850 Місяць тому +10

      100% true. I thought this was an obvious plot point to make. I don't understand the criticism of it. The ring bearers have a subconscious desire to refer to the One Ring as 'Precious'. Why? How? What for?
      Imagine not explaining or adding background to one of the most iconic phrases of the entire legendarium.

    • @attackfox
      @attackfox Місяць тому +1

      Well said

    • @craigching
      @craigching Місяць тому

      I agree with this take

    • @Bruh-pp2bh
      @Bruh-pp2bh Місяць тому +1

      One of the few good/cool things this show has done

    • @pedror7992
      @pedror7992 Місяць тому

      oh my oh my

  • @OnlyRoke
    @OnlyRoke Місяць тому +87

    As you pointed out last week, I don't love that the Dwarven Rings are already making people power-hungry and mad (since they're supposed to be passed down for generations), but the overall drama of the king gone mad and his son struggling to reach out to him is really neat.

    • @nomdeguerre8464
      @nomdeguerre8464 Місяць тому +7

      @@OnlyRoke yeah, well, it's just causing them to wake Durin's Bane about an age and a half too early, but whatever

    • @clearwiredatl
      @clearwiredatl Місяць тому

      I'm wondering if that might be sauron manipulating durin III since his condition is what sparked Brimby's potential willingness to make the 9.

    • @kdr121279
      @kdr121279 Місяць тому

      Counterpoint to the argument about dwarves passing down things for generations that make them power-hungry/mad... there are plenty of examples from history where heirlooms passed down created nothing but strife for families. Property is a great example... how many family squabbles have came from something passed down? Yet, it's still something highly desired. I dunno, I think you and NOTR have a great point about that with the rings... but I do think history shows us that people will pass powerful/valuable things down even when they cause lots of problems.

    • @REAPER3fitty
      @REAPER3fitty Місяць тому

      "Neat" wow

    • @TheJmlew11
      @TheJmlew11 Місяць тому

      It’s neat but it would have been more effective if all throughout the show we’ve had conflict between the two Durin’s.

  • @billedmunds80
    @billedmunds80 Місяць тому +54

    Galadriel is so easily duped in this series. Hardly the character that didn't trust Annatar from the get-go in Tolkien's works. "Hey Galadriel, I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn. Interested?"

    • @Blisterdude123
      @Blisterdude123 Місяць тому +11

      I can't believe she was literally about to side with the orcs. Even Adar was like 'tf are you serious, you've lost your mind' when she basically offered to join up with him. Even the BAD guy is like 'tone it down, you've clearly been corrupted by Sauron' lmao

    • @kylebeavers
      @kylebeavers Місяць тому +3

      @@Blisterdude123 couldn't she just have been lying to Adar to eventually get out of captivity. I mean, she's his prisoner after all at this point. She has to find a way to survive the situation. Sauron's not the only one that can deceive to achieve his ends.

    • @Blisterdude123
      @Blisterdude123 Місяць тому +9

      @@kylebeavers I'd buy that if at any point previously in two seasons of this show, we'd seen some example or evidence of that in her behaviour, her character. We have not.
      What we have seen is her fanatical, bloodthirsty obsession with hunting Sauron, up to and including gaslighting herself into believing Sauron had tricked her, when really she'd tricked herself. All we have is evidence that she'd do ANYTHING to get Sauron, up to and including siding with....the orcs, apparently.

    • @Max1990Power
      @Max1990Power Місяць тому +1

      ​s celeborn supposed to be her ancor? The one to keep her focused and in balance? Because so far Galadriel seems to just stumble into the dark. Until that point when she understand that adar bringing the orc army to eregion was of saurons design.

    • @nancyhayes9958
      @nancyhayes9958 Місяць тому +2

      At least I don’t outright hate her this season.

  • @vflshred8796
    @vflshred8796 Місяць тому +3

    I think to some extent, we're picking this show apart because the trilogy was so great. But, it didn't go without its own flaws. Over time I think we've probably forgotten some of that with the powerful thing that is nostalgia. Is the Rings of Power flawed? Yes. Is it canon? No. Because of those things, I think we should do better and let them tell their version of the story. Mainly from scarce information/text that the Tolkien Estate would not grant them to use.

  • @WaWxChasers
    @WaWxChasers Місяць тому +2

    Overall I enjoyed this episode. I really love the way they are depicting Elendil’s faith. Honestly that scene where he decided not to bow to Ar-Pharazôn is how I’ve imagined not bowing to the anti-Christ. Resolute faith in what he knows is true, regardless of what earthly consequence may follow.

  • @adampoultney8737
    @adampoultney8737 Місяць тому +67

    9:30 I view this as Adar fundamentally not understanding what Sauron is

    • @ghostdreamer7272
      @ghostdreamer7272 Місяць тому +2

      I don’t blame him for that. But he understands Sauron better in *some* ways than others

  • @FatherRabbitt
    @FatherRabbitt Місяць тому +92

    Did anyone else notice that Annatar’s wig looks better in this episode? The hair looks longer and fuller than previous episodes

    • @attackfox
      @attackfox Місяць тому +12

      I noticed this too! It didn’t make his forehead look as terribly huge

    • @ecthelionofthefountain8267
      @ecthelionofthefountain8267 Місяць тому +3

      Still looks like a wig though.

    • @Caniac76
      @Caniac76 Місяць тому +22

      He's using L'Oreal by Lothlorien shampoo now that he is in Eregion.

    • @498chris
      @498chris Місяць тому +2

      Yes!!! They fixed his split ends

    • @AkiTerry
      @AkiTerry Місяць тому

      😂​@@Caniac76

  • @OnlyRoke
    @OnlyRoke Місяць тому +166

    I am still holding out hope that The Stranger and The Dark Wizard are the two Blue Wizards and they are purposefully dressed up to look like Gandalf and Saruman, because the showrunners decided to go with an idea akin to "The two Blue Wizards both bungled their mission and later on Gandalf and Saruman were sent to redeem what they were supposed to be." so we have proto-look-alike versions of Gandalf and Saruman.

    • @swright8566
      @swright8566 Місяць тому +31

      I don't know why but I have a feeling Tom will give The Stranger his hat and cloak thus making him a blue wizard. All the Gandalf references are too obvious and perhaps this is more of an Istar reference.

    • @HarrywiseGamgee
      @HarrywiseGamgee Місяць тому +7

      Me too! I feel the show-runners want to impress core viewers like us by surprising us. Making him Gandalf is too easy. Besides, it’ll make the dark wizard totally random.

    • @cptblack9801
      @cptblack9801 Місяць тому +28

      he is 1000000% gandalf, they have been giving us small hints now and there. and since this show is written by 12 year olds i can guarantee u he is gandalf

    • @alkintanriverdi4306
      @alkintanriverdi4306 Місяць тому +4

      Come on seriously. After the "many that die deserve to live..." sentence... So what? Did Gandalf hear it from Bombadil 🤬

    • @jeffmcguire1965
      @jeffmcguire1965 Місяць тому +9

      I'm the same - it will be a disappointment to be Gandalf - so I have this theory (wishful thinking?) that the showrunners knew that Gandalf was everyone's expectation, so they are teasing with it to make the reveal more shocking. It just seems at this point, if the stranger turns out to be Gandalf, it will just feel like a 'meh'.

  • @OswaldoTortoledo
    @OswaldoTortoledo Місяць тому +14

    That damn callback was almost a dealbreaker for me. It undermines Gandalf and his wisdom so much, making it sound like he just remembered a phrase that Ol' Tom told him ages ago. So stupid

    • @Minimmalmythicist
      @Minimmalmythicist Місяць тому +2

      It´s a shame, it´s a show with some really strong spots, but also does things that are much weaker.

  • @andrebomtempo7893
    @andrebomtempo7893 Місяць тому +11

    Dont take me wrong, I love all your content and all your episodes breakdowns, but I simply love every single time they do these references from the movies that you seem not to like.

  • @ThinkViralShorts
    @ThinkViralShorts Місяць тому +42

    Eregion has also been so underwhelming. The gwaith-i-mirdain are portrayed as weak inexperienced individuals rather than the great Jewel smiths they are and they make it seem like Eregion has one city. It's an entire region, with its capital city being Ost-in-edhil. But it seems like they skipped that and have allowed Adar to camp right outside the walls of the city without any confrontation.

    • @mimimaitri1
      @mimimaitri1 Місяць тому +6

      They completely missed out on the chance to show us why it was such a special place, and how impressive the elven realms must have been before the 3rd age.

    • @dashwoodhouse11
      @dashwoodhouse11 Місяць тому +4

      Yes, they could have take the time to at least have someone run or walk through Eregion. Showing the normal people and the Gwaith-i-mirdain and how they usually are in time of peace. I didn't know why they didn't take the time to make us care for these elves. When the sacking of Eregion happens, we'll only feel bad for Celebrimbor because he's the only one we cared about there.
      Comparing that to Lord of the Rings which spent some time showing normal citizens of Rohan and Gondor before the battles happened. They showed men being separated from their families, children being forced to flee without their mother because of war. That shot straight to the heart and gave more weight to the bloodshed on the screen.

    • @bmabs35
      @bmabs35 Місяць тому +8

      Numenor too for that matter. I don't get the impression these are the mighty people they're supposed to be.

    • @ItsButterBean1020
      @ItsButterBean1020 Місяць тому

      Yeah I wish we got to see Adar invading the outlying regions, burning them down before making a move on the capital; shrouded by Sauron’s arts

    • @Slayer398
      @Slayer398 Місяць тому

      @@bmabs35 they don't look any different from anyone you see anywhere outside your window or walking down the street and that's amazingly underwhelming.

  • @jcacustodio01
    @jcacustodio01 Місяць тому +9

    i didn't mind the 'precious' from Annatar, i kinda like that it was a term originally from Sauron, but I agree about the references from the stranger and Tom...

  • @futspychatshit9718
    @futspychatshit9718 Місяць тому +94

    I enjoy these breakdowns more than the episodes themselves

    • @AnnNunnally
      @AnnNunnally Місяць тому +1

      I have been hate watching since I saw the first episode in Season 1. But I also blame the people who would not let them use all of Tolkein's books.

  • @rollo4722
    @rollo4722 Місяць тому +3

    One callback I actually enjoyed was “the sea is always right”… it made no sense in season 1 but the trial by sea monster thing made it work

    • @jj48
      @jj48 Місяць тому

      I think it's ok for it not to make perfect sense, personally. Given what we heard during the ceremony last episode, I get the impression that the Faithful don't fully understand all the rituals and things they're doing. Like, they have some knowledge of the Valar, and try to respect them and keep the customs as best they can, but even among them, much knowledge has been lost and some things have just become ritual.

  • @andreszejner7434
    @andreszejner7434 Місяць тому +10

    Absolutely agree with the annoying references to the movies... When Durin was asking Durin to take off the ring, I was yellign at the screen: "DONT SAY IT...." frearing that Durin was going to call it his precious...
    Its so distracting, these usurped lines...

  • @awesomehpt8938
    @awesomehpt8938 Місяць тому +140

    We’re near the end of season 2 and we still haven’t seen anything of Anarion (the first king of Gondor) but we’ve had plenty of Elendils annoying evil daughter. Sigh!

    • @SaintFort
      @SaintFort Місяць тому +13

      The show is not the books. It's a loose adaptation of the books, so its events will play out differently.

    • @Rauruatreides
      @Rauruatreides Місяць тому +10

      ​@@SaintFortit's not so much they are changing the book content, and rather that the things they have changed haven't really been interesting.

    • @BlueforReason
      @BlueforReason Місяць тому +6

      Obviously youre not going to get anarion. They have to condense 1000 years into ten. Or we would be getting 20 seasons where absolutely nothing happens. I thought it was obvious that elendil will be the first king.

    • @cassieo
      @cassieo Місяць тому +8

      I think he will show up next season when Elendil goes to have a chat with him about the Faithful leaving Númenor. Probably going to have a nice long grief session about wife/mom and Isildur, then deciding to go help the Elves.

    • @MaroLitraTV
      @MaroLitraTV Місяць тому +9

      @@BlueforReason Of course we are getting Anarion in the next season. In season 1 Elendil told Isildur that Anarion is on the west side of Numenor where most of the Faithful live and the showrunners hinted that we will see him

  • @richsw
    @richsw Місяць тому +14

    The fact they didn't use CGI to create big crowds is such a weird choice. It's even more noticeable in Numeanor, which is always bizarrely empty of people.

  • @davem3953
    @davem3953 Місяць тому +128

    If the Numenoreans are fickle, imagine if they had the internet.

    • @troyjanagujar3384
      @troyjanagujar3384 Місяць тому +1

      with all the internet trolls too

    • @Blisterdude123
      @Blisterdude123 Місяць тому +1

      This is the problem with condensing thousands of years of events into...what...a year? Two maybe?

    • @RobKlarmann
      @RobKlarmann Місяць тому

      Touché!

    • @troyjanagujar3384
      @troyjanagujar3384 Місяць тому +1

      @@Blisterdude123 they should take notes with game of thrones, they know how to give personalities to different factions of the mob. Etc kings landing

    • @swright8566
      @swright8566 Місяць тому +1

      ​​@@troyjanagujar3384Meh, I stopped watching or reading anything GoT related since the author can't be arsed to finish the series of books.

  • @happyredpanda
    @happyredpanda Місяць тому +1

    On another note, that Aragorn painting you used is fantastic! Beautiful! 👏👏👏 Kudos to the artist Vanderstelt 👍🏼

  • @RedRiverCAE
    @RedRiverCAE Місяць тому +23

    As someone who is pretty oblivious to LORT lore, im heavily confused as to how much time is actually passing during a season.

    • @Somerandomfilmmakerguy
      @Somerandomfilmmakerguy Місяць тому

      Real question. Does references to the Silmarillion make sense to you without context as to what they are?

    • @dburgd99
      @dburgd99 Місяць тому +9

      So are the showrunners.

    • @Bayard1503
      @Bayard1503 Місяць тому

      I mean... a couple of days?? it's been a month at most since the start of the entire show?? I know it sounds stupid but I could actually defend this if we look how things connect. And why not? Eregion and Lindon are at most a couple days ride away, enough for Elrond and Galadriel to not make a single stop, Valinor is a swim away... Numenor is somewhere in the middle, probably not more than half a day of sailing...

    • @ItsButterBean1020
      @ItsButterBean1020 Місяць тому

      @@Bayard1503I’d have to imagine it’s longer though right?
      Like Adar is marching from Mordor to Eregion, that’s gotta be like 100 miles right? Thousands of Orcs marching that distance would be crazy

  • @stroiaioana14
    @stroiaioana14 Місяць тому +77

    elendil has such Ned Stark vibes this season

  • @coryhowell3135
    @coryhowell3135 Місяць тому +5

    It is a little frustrating hearing Anatar say, "You need to address your people" and we see a crowd of about 18...it makes the sweeping, massive shots of a city seem much less impactful when crowds are so small

  • @svenningen
    @svenningen Місяць тому +1

    Love the language detail brought from the Prancing Pony folks! I listened to their pod too, fantastic!
    I'm glad to see season 2 feeling like a better trajectory for most people I hear from!

  • @rey2352
    @rey2352 Місяць тому +9

    There was another clear reference to the point in The Two Towers movie when Saruman reveals his Uruk-hai army to Wormtongue. Both the lines spoken at that point and the visual shots were the same as The Two Towers, just changed a bit (it would take a number beyond reckoning/just one legion then cut to shot overlooking a larger army)

  • @leyubar1
    @leyubar1 Місяць тому +4

    I LOVE the props in this show. The trumpets that you point out are awesome (also, so is Feanor’s hammer in particular). I also love that the SFX cue is reminiscent of a train horn and comes almost immediately after the phrase “light at the end of the cave” (which is obviously a prompt for the audience to be thinking about tunnels and trains!)

  • @solomondutoit7237
    @solomondutoit7237 Місяць тому +37

    @NerdoftheRings If you take a closer look at the scene, at the end of the sea trial, there are quite a number of Numenorians standing on the cliffs watching the sea trial

    • @kronlidmusic
      @kronlidmusic Місяць тому +6

      yeah, i didnt see that when watching the episode but i noticed it in the video, i wonder if he missed it aswell

    • @Jokoufro
      @Jokoufro Місяць тому +3

      I was going to mention this as well. Didn't notice them during the episode but watching the stills in the breakdown, seems like a lot of people showed up for the trial. Great catch!

  • @kellerlambert
    @kellerlambert Місяць тому +2

    Dude I just have to say your breakdowns are so damn good. Super appreciative of people like you with a keen attention to detail and a passion for the source material, without overdoing it. Well done.

  • @TheKingofall42
    @TheKingofall42 Місяць тому +3

    Unless there's some massive payoff from the Stranger storyline I think the story of (at least) series 1 and 2 would have been better served without it and limiting episodes to one or two of the other plots at a time instead of cutting between them so often.
    Maybe there's a fanfilm level project with the Stranger story when compiled alone, but otherwise it just kills the narrative stone dead when cut back to.

  • @danielbronks4234
    @danielbronks4234 Місяць тому +10

    Galadriel is 5000 years old and acts like shes emotionally 17

  • @cypherdk85
    @cypherdk85 Місяць тому +14

    The bat scene game me a chuckle because it reminded me of Lord of the Rings Online when the first expansion dropped, Mines of Moria.
    Everyone had problems with a quest to find the bat cave, and people just got tired of it and told them to go to Gotham 😂
    Also I indeed have heard the pronunciation smil, in my native language of Danish, which does have roots in how English came about.

    • @Faerwing66
      @Faerwing66 Місяць тому

      Haha. I remember that Bat Cave thing too! Good memories!

  • @gyufuli
    @gyufuli Місяць тому +12

    BTW always pronounced it as Smeeal, never thought of any other, but I am Hungarian. BTW Miriel judgement scene: if you look at the wide shot there are a lot of people on the mountain as well...

  • @benjamincostello
    @benjamincostello Місяць тому +10

    At first, I thought the Disa and the bats thing was ridiculous, but then I realized that she and bats both use echolocation and then it seemed kind of awesome.

  • @GeorgeMasterclass
    @GeorgeMasterclass Місяць тому +2

    While reading the Silmarilion, the book made it clear that Numenorians were a superior form of human, closer to Elven Lords than to the Men of Middle Earth. They were taller, stronger, wiser and long living. Whenever their huge ships docked at Middle Earth, the locals were awe stricken by how noble, superior they looked, at the same time they were feared for their might and wrath. Moreover Numenor was the land of the West, it should be more Western looking, the show went for a very eastern look, for the city and and its armies are mix of ancient Carthage and Rohan. I'd prefer to see a more Roman, Greek, Byzantine and Gothic architecture mix for the city, for a more austere looking seat of a fantacy super power. Finally the Numenorians were very good seamen, and their favorite weapons were their super strong hollow bows.

  • @JuanRodriguez-mp8mh
    @JuanRodriguez-mp8mh Місяць тому +64

    I think Annatar slicing his hand and placing it on Celebrimbor's arm is what he uses to create the illusion

    • @attackfox
      @attackfox Місяць тому

      I was a bit curious what the blood letting was for

    • @ninfreak95
      @ninfreak95 Місяць тому +24

      Nah I think he put his blood in the "refined" mithril.

    • @sixseasonsandamovie8753
      @sixseasonsandamovie8753 Місяць тому +3

      It's s stain for the mithrils, it's how he tampers with celebrimbors forges

    • @friendlyfiddler5727
      @friendlyfiddler5727 Місяць тому

      @@ninfreak95 Not even that. Remember he did not convince Durin to get more mithril, so these rings are gonna be made out of normal metal and Sauron´s blood, which was covered by the illusion into looking like mithril, and will allow him to control the Men who wield them "as if they were mere extensions of his body and will"

    • @Jibcutter
      @Jibcutter Місяць тому

      Agreed, I think it was used to help cast the illusion for Celebrimbor as he soon after gripped him with that hand. The mithral he could have influenced it whenever it was in his possession.

  • @TheScreamMan
    @TheScreamMan Місяць тому +15

    Its worth noting we only have Angars word that the crown was the key to killing Sauron. I mean it didn't do the job before. He also proceeded to follow up all he told Galadriel by saying it was all a lit to get her to talk anyway, so Im not convinced that the claim about the crown is true.

    • @TurinStark5
      @TurinStark5 Місяць тому +1

      Plus it was way too small to be Morgoth's crown. He was massive in size and that crown is for a normal head

    • @dutchkel
      @dutchkel Місяць тому +3

      ​@@TurinStark5He said Sauron reforged it for his own head.

    • @NikolisKitchen
      @NikolisKitchen Місяць тому

      I really don't get why people are just 100% jumping on "yep, it's Morgoth's crown" when Adar was clearly manipulating her and trying to get her to reveal what she knew.

    • @Phlickit
      @Phlickit Місяць тому

      @@dutchkel I was literally opening my mouth to say "that's gotta be way too small to fit Morgoth's head" when Adar added the line that Sauron refit it for himself. Criticism withdrawn.

  • @acnash27
    @acnash27 Місяць тому +8

    Regarding Annatar cutting his hand, I took it as part of the ritual for his illusion spell he cast on Celebrimbor. Notice when he threatens him he uses his cut hand to grab him, and the show lingers on him holding onto Celebrimbor with the cut hand, like it’s important to the spell that is cast.

    • @friendlyfiddler5727
      @friendlyfiddler5727 Місяць тому +4

      I´m pretty sure when he gave Celebrimbor "refined mithril" he instead just gave him something filled with his blood to forge the 9, so that this time is not that he "touched/stained" the rings, but that his very essence is forever inside them and without mithril to in any way counteract it, powering the rings and yet binding them to his will unquestionably. Remember he didn´t manage to convince Durin to grant them more mithril once they spent all they had...

    • @JQUE94
      @JQUE94 Місяць тому +3

      Yall both made some great points about those two scenes

  • @JSTpacek
    @JSTpacek 9 днів тому +1

    you really are a nerd (after seeing you measuring the distance with a ruler). :)
    i was hoping miriel's vision would come back after she passed the trial (valar healing her).

  • @danielshimmin3438
    @danielshimmin3438 Місяць тому +1

    Thank you for your review. Yes rings of power is desperately disappointing in places, but I'm tired of all the reviews hating so hard on it.

  • @bambulkomccloud3983
    @bambulkomccloud3983 Місяць тому +45

    Aren't all Istari servants of the secret flame? Yes, Gandalf used this phrase, but this should apply to all of them, right?

    • @MoldyMojoMonkey
      @MoldyMojoMonkey Місяць тому +13

      I have my fingers crossed that this is the case, that this isn't Gandalf, and that it's all just been a cunning misdirect.

    • @WhiskerDooz
      @WhiskerDooz Місяць тому

      I think they stop being "servants" when they are corrupted and use their power for evil

    • @ArturoRamirez2003BS
      @ArturoRamirez2003BS Місяць тому +5

      @@MoldyMojoMonkeyhim not being Gandalf at this point would be worst for the story

    • @Lord_Nordan
      @Lord_Nordan Місяць тому +1

      @@ArturoRamirez2003BS I agree. If he ends up not being Gandalf, then it makes the harfoot storyline completely meaningless.

    • @danielnilsson9835
      @danielnilsson9835 Місяць тому +1

      Hopefully something old Tom told all Istari 😅

  • @ralphdamianiart
    @ralphdamianiart Місяць тому +8

    So, Galadriel is easily fooled again, this time by Adar? For what it’s worth Charlie Vickers, Lloyd Owen and Owain Arthur are carrying this show. They manage to elevate all their scenes with the little they are given. Now and then they get some good lines and you get a glimpse of what this show could have been with veteran writers behind it, preferably with filmmaking experience, since episodic television is terrible for the overall pacing.

    • @OliverLodgeMusic
      @OliverLodgeMusic Місяць тому

      She is a complete moron. Which is strange because the show seems to want to portray her as the boss girl who is never wrong. But they could've literally made her the boss girl that she is by having her be the one suspicious of Annatar as in the books and then be proven correct. I cannot fathom what they're trying to do with her. She's a hateful, moronic liar and even the other characters in the show seem to think so but yet she's meant to be the viewers "hero"

  • @ggeraci145
    @ggeraci145 Місяць тому +4

    Did you notice Arondil has a leaf of Lórien on his cloak? Thought that was a nice little touch.

  • @maniachaelgaming
    @maniachaelgaming Місяць тому +1

    Charlie Vickers has done such a great job in this series. Playing Sauron as well as playing Sauron playing Halbrand and playing Sauron playing Annatar takes a great amount of talent and character immersion that can’t be overlooked.

    • @maniachaelgaming
      @maniachaelgaming Місяць тому

      I also really like the way Elendil is portrayed. If I knew nothing of the lore and was asked to point out which character reminded me most of Aragorn, I would point to him. They nailed it in my opinion, especially episode 5 of this season onward.

  • @EWE1290
    @EWE1290 Місяць тому +33

    Is it me or is it super strange that they never show the elven smiths actually working? It’s always them standing there after having finished working. I loved in ROTK when they showed the elves making Anduril on their forge, it seemed so authentic where now in this show, it seems weird we only see them standing around

    • @jj48
      @jj48 Місяць тому +2

      Maybe the Eregion smiths have unionized.

    • @EWE1290
      @EWE1290 Місяць тому

      @@jj48 haha always on their union breaks. 20 on 30 off lol

    • @Bayard1503
      @Bayard1503 Місяць тому

      Fire is dangerous. Are you a mad man?

    • @WolvesbaneNetwork
      @WolvesbaneNetwork Місяць тому +4

      @@EWE1290 I gotta be honest I've always disliked that anduril scene. Mainly because hammering two flat pieces of metal next to each other is useless. Like there was no effort to show any real blacksmithing, just hammering hot metal.

    • @EWE1290
      @EWE1290 Місяць тому

      @@WolvesbaneNetwork interesting, to be honest I don’t know much about blacksmithing so if that’s true then that’s kind of weak, but it’s more effort than just showing elves standing around after having finished working lol

  • @neomoscoso10
    @neomoscoso10 Місяць тому +37

    Annatar became an awesome orchestral director towards the end of the episode.

  • @njalthemighty5378
    @njalthemighty5378 Місяць тому +9

    Wow you uploaded that fast.
    Also after watching this i realised there was a whole load more people up on the cliffs at the end of the sea worm scene, didnt notice them the first time around, almost hidden by the light.

  • @abaray123
    @abaray123 Місяць тому +8

    Did people miss the meta reference of how the Rings of Power will become the main story and the Silmarils would just be a side note. Lord of the Rings vs. The Silmarillion reference?

  • @Barny5ive
    @Barny5ive Місяць тому +1

    The bag full of mythril was what caused the most confusion/discussion with my watch group. (other than the moment when all things stopped to see if Celebrimbor's hammer was there or not) Many theories were exchanged on where the mythril came from and was it actually mythril, or another trick?

  • @djJaXx101
    @djJaXx101 Місяць тому +1

    Gives me something interesting to do while watching...
    These are my notes, before I see this Video's review.
    - The hammer scene was bizarre. A shot shows the hammer is there (when celebrimbor says "she is called Mirdania"). Then Celebrimbor first talks about the hammer (the background shows its gone) then Sauron says "That hammer" and its back again. I'm guessing the first shot was a continuity error.
    - Adar and Galadriel's scene was ok in spite of her stuck up, hateful, spiteful personality.
    - Elendil's courtroom scene was ok, a bit on the nose
    - Hobbit scene is terrible of course.
    > Please don't subject me to a hobbit love story, that's disgusting.
    > Trying to be funny with lizard breath, please stop
    - Why is Gandalf standing on a cliff chatting with Bombadil if he is so worried Nori will die.
    - Its always stupid when a person must choose between saving the world or saving one person. And in this case its even worse because Gandalf the blue is specifically told "Every soul in middle earth is in peril" which includes ALL hobbits, elves and men that will ever exist... but of course Gandalf the blue is an idiot and will choose to save the two stupid evil hobbits.
    - Now we got Bombadil quoting Gandalf's movie lines... I guess they were lines from the books, but I wish they would find new/different lines to use. "Many that live deserve death etc..."
    - Why would Sauron summon prince Durin to ask the king for Mithril?
    - What did Sauron see the fire? the Balrog I guess?
    - Disa defending the tunnel with bats was especially stupid, when she summons the bats of course they fly around her and they would have just flown around the miners had they stood still. I would have liked to see that scene. Also, how much time do you think they bought by a few bats chasing 4 miners 20 meters down a tunnel? 3 minutes maybe?
    - It doesn't make sense that the queen can take the punishment for Elidil. He was charged with "inciting a violent conflagration that led to loss of life and high treason" what has the queen got to do with those crimes?
    - The queen makes zero effort to save her own life
    - The topography doesn't make sense. The queen is in a rock pool separate from the ocean. It has a different water level. Yet somehow the sea beast phases through matter in order to grab her from below.
    - Pretty epic looking sea beast... but I would still like to know the mechanics of how it managed to get into that rock pool and tie its tentacle around the queens feet
    - They show the pool from above you can literally see through the water and see the ROCK at the bottom of the pool. it is not open to the ocean. So dumb!
    - Wait what? the camera pans around and all the orcs are already 200meters from Eregion? I thought they were miles away... I guess it makes sense, Galadriel was travelling there when she got caught.
    - I like Sauron vs Celbrimbor scene and Sauron's illusion
    - I would think the elves to be a little more organized in defense rather than screaming and panicking.
    - great siege visuals at the end.
    There are a lot of stupid little annoying mistakes, but they are definitely getting better than season 1, but Its still kinda below average, maybe the production value brings it up to 5/10 for me.

  • @joaquinmoran4006
    @joaquinmoran4006 Місяць тому +13

    Hear me out... In the show they'll use part of Morgoth's crown to make the One Ring along with Mithril.

    • @muzzyali8011
      @muzzyali8011 Місяць тому

      this show is obsessed with Mithril jesus Christ. They'll probably use it in the Numenorian ships that go west for whatever reason.

  • @clementjacques8043
    @clementjacques8043 Місяць тому +31

    Are we not gonna complain that Arondir appeared for like 1min and never again and had no clear purpose because we already knew Adar was planning to attack ?

    • @mimimaitri1
      @mimimaitri1 Місяць тому +4

      Yeah, it felt like bad editing. I have a feeling we will figure out next week why he needed to find that map.

    • @acrustykrab
      @acrustykrab Місяць тому +4

      i thought he was gonna warn Eregion or something lol nope

    • @jseels
      @jseels Місяць тому +4

      Guys give him a break… he didn’t know his girlfriend’s actor was gonna bail on the show to fight injustice in her country 😂

    • @Phlickit
      @Phlickit Місяць тому +4

      I think the purpose is not so much to show that Adar is planning to attack, but to show us that he knows where the orcs are going and gives him a reason to go in that direction himself. That way, when Arondir shows up at Eregion in the battle, we won't go: "How did he get here? I thought he was way over there?"

    • @Bayard1503
      @Bayard1503 Місяць тому +2

      @@jseels Oh, I hope she succeeded in freeing Iran by doing... what exactly?

  • @LukeRocha-f7u
    @LukeRocha-f7u Місяць тому +5

    Honestly just happy to see Tolkien on screen again

    • @ODST_Republic
      @ODST_Republic Місяць тому

      Tolkien wouldn't approve of this and would be upset how they butcher his world and themes of his actual book

  • @windycityflier23
    @windycityflier23 Місяць тому +1

    Sir, you should look closer at the scene by the water. There are 1,000s possibly 10s of thousands in the background during the trial of Muriel

  • @prodbyagape
    @prodbyagape Місяць тому +3

    The dragging out of the reveal the Strangers name hasn't really added any suspense or excitement, its kind of actually done the opposite...

  • @nyyfandan
    @nyyfandan Місяць тому +68

    I'm calling it now, the main hobbit girl is gonna end up in a relationship with that guy and it's gonna be revealed that his last name is Baggins, or they move to the Shire and change their last name to Baggins or something. Something along those lines that would be both ridiculous and unnecessary and probably break the lore in multiple ways

    • @ninjamuffin289
      @ninjamuffin289 Місяць тому

      Nah he’s a Took for sure 😂

    • @rusty_shovel
      @rusty_shovel Місяць тому

      Poppy-cock

    • @nomdeguerre8464
      @nomdeguerre8464 Місяць тому +13

      Tens of people will care.

    • @nyyfandan
      @nyyfandan Місяць тому +4

      @@nomdeguerre8464 lol, I also already gave up on watching this season, but it's such low hanging fruit that they're gonna have to do it in a later season, even if it completely breaks the lore

    • @mon_moi
      @mon_moi Місяць тому +7

      @@nyyfandan I think in the Appendices it said that the first Baggins was Bungo, while Merimac is either a Tookish or Bucklander name (I can't remember) So I really doubt that they'll end up as the first Baggins but I wouldn't put it past the show to make them like, the builders of Bag End or something. Maybe Bungo will be their son lol

  • @yoyomayne
    @yoyomayne Місяць тому +12

    The people of Numenor really pissed me off in this season. One minute, they're siding with that piece of crap Pharazon, then they suddenly change their mind about him for Muriel who they just hated for losing men in war just because the sea monster didnt eat her. Elendil's daughter is a traitor to her own kin, and I'd renounce her, if only temporarily, but what she did is unforgivable. I just hope Muriel, Elendil, and all who are truly loyal to them depart from treacherous Numenor before the Valar thrash that place. Ofc Elendil will but yea...

    • @OliverLodgeMusic
      @OliverLodgeMusic Місяць тому

      Did she become the Queen again or what? Weird that Balzagar? seemed to immediately side with her as well when he seemed to be pharazons main evil man

    • @stephenlandale631
      @stephenlandale631 Місяць тому

      Could be different Numenorians -- "King's Men" showing up in Armenelos, Faithful showing up so support one of their own in a ritual they hope will prove his innocence.

    • @yoyomayne
      @yoyomayne Місяць тому +1

      @@OliverLodgeMusic she is once again queen, but now not just of Numenor, but the sea as well lol

    • @yoyomayne
      @yoyomayne Місяць тому

      @@stephenlandale631 yes, but they don't make that clear at all

  • @matheusavila2688
    @matheusavila2688 Місяць тому +8

    Elendil Stark, a man of duty and faith

  • @timganassi1393
    @timganassi1393 Місяць тому +1

    Great job, as always!
    My 2 cents on a two minor scenes:
    In my view, you may have missed one extra undertone in the conversation between the Stranger and Bombadil (aside from the obvious SW Yoda/Luke thing going on). And that’s the conversation between Gandalf and Radagast in the PJ Hobbit movie, just after they exit the Nazgul’s graves.
    When Gandalf realizes the danger looming on Thorin’s company after he understands who the Necromancer really is:
    Gandalf: I cannot forsake them, they are in grave danger (the dwarves of Erebor + Bilbo)
    Radagast: If what you say is true, the world is in grave danger
    Gandalf: … You want me… to cast my friends… aside?
    This could also be a nice added connection either way, whether the stranger ends up being Gandalf or Radagast.
    Thought #2: The “Thank you captain” scene in Numenor with Valandil and Co is a (very poor, IMO) rewriting/toned-down variation on the “O captain, my captain” scene in the Dead Poet’s Society… But with virtually no emotional impact whatsoever, because we have no idea who these people around him are and what they have been through.

  • @georgepapachristou4833
    @georgepapachristou4833 Місяць тому +1

    U can see more numenorians at the top of your screen at 28:34
    Also the Bombadil saying about who lives I think is a good scene saying where Gandalf got his lessons from

  • @corax86
    @corax86 Місяць тому +31

    WHERE IS ANARION? You're father is on trial, brother believed to be dead, sister kind of a traitor, and Anarion doesn't care? He was mentioned in Season 1 after all.

    • @ruigerd
      @ruigerd Місяць тому

      Good point

    • @bmabs35
      @bmabs35 Місяць тому +3

      @@corax86 Amandil's nowhere to be seen either. Absolutely baffling.

    • @muzzyali8011
      @muzzyali8011 Місяць тому

      Seems like the series has purposely changed everything. So they basically replaced Anarion with a woman, added in unnecessary characters like Gandalf and the hobbits, etc. It's just so baffling how the creators of this show disregarded the source materials so badly. Peter Jackson omitted characters only because there were too many.

    • @corax86
      @corax86 Місяць тому

      @@muzzyali8011 But Anarion WAS mentioned in a conversation, so he is in Rings of Power. He just does not appear for some reason.

    • @muzzyali8011
      @muzzyali8011 Місяць тому

      @@corax86 ahh didn't notice that but they should've just had Anarion instead of her. It would made so much more sense than just to 'add' a daughter for no reason

  • @300DBenz
    @300DBenz Місяць тому +25

    I think Sauron will use Morgoth’s crown as ingredients when he forges the One Ring.

    • @NerdoftheRings
      @NerdoftheRings  Місяць тому +12

      Not a bad theory! And honestly it would be kind of a cool original element!

    • @300DBenz
      @300DBenz Місяць тому

      @@NerdoftheRings In season 1 the elves *and Halbrand* (a.k.a Sauron) wanted to use the mithril to forge a crown before the elves decided on the 3 rings instead.
      Sauron likes crowns, but he needs the ring(s) more, and a crown won’t control them, only a ring can.

    • @tableshaper4076
      @tableshaper4076 Місяць тому

      the fact that you think about this show is telling. PUT DOWN THE SOY.