The only thing this movie was missing is a record scratch and freeze frame of euronymous getting stabbed with the voice over “yep, that’s me. I guess you’re wondering how I ended up in this situation.”
Definitely fictitiously stretched to make a movie and weirdly casted but if you were to take the names and story of mayhem out of it I would say it’s a good movie 😂
What else did you expect the producer to do? Dialect coaches are really expensive and this movie did not have a Hollywood production money. The producer talked about the accents in an interview and said that he wanted to appeal to a wide audience since black metal has expanded from just its scandinavian borders, because remember the point of this movie is an attempt to get more people interested in black metal, and also because he saw other movies attempt to do different accents and fail horribly, and that was with easy and common accents let alone more obscure Norwegian and Swedish accents. So yeah not trying to hate or anything but I always feel the need to say this to people who bring the accents up because it seems that even if the producers did try with accents, with their limited budget they probably would have done a horrible job and you guys would hate either way. So no matter what the producers are losing
@@alvisarker8621 this is definitely a fair point. Seeing these actors try to pull off fake Norwegian accents wouldve arguably been more cheesy and silly, maybe making the movie an even more so bad it's good experience
I liked it if you watch the movie without expecting an accurate story the movie was fun, it also shows that all the members actually probably were cringey edge lords only they went further than all the normal edge lords, and it starts with the text: based on truth, LIES and what actually happened (the acting wasn’t the best though)
I had a friend that happens to be communist and he couldn't enjoy Death of Stalin. When a fandom becomes a religion you need to chill the fuck out because you will see apostates everywhere
This movie isn't meant to be a documentary, but an entertaining movie and the depiction as cringy edgelords is absolutely correct. They all were weird edgy kids: Varg was 20 when he killed Euronymous, Pelle offed himself at 22, Faust was imprisoned at 19. They where Kids acting evil, posing with medieval weapons and 3rd reich memorabilia. That you actually believe this and call them "brutal occult creatures" is just weird, dude. Those were kids wearing witch hats in their music videos.
As someone who was around new bands and having been stabbed, I can confirm that both experiences as portrayed in this movie are legitimately as awkward as they appeared on screen. The shock of being stabbed did make me say "why did you stab me?" before realising I was in danger of dying.
I loved this movie, it encapsulated everything funny about black metal and the portrayl of these people by awkward dudes in their 20s was a great way to show how try hard edgy black metal dudes are to this day. Met many black metal guys that behave very much like these characters and thats what made me enjoy the film so much. Its okay to enjoy things even if theyre not authentic to the truth.
I think it’s important to remember that the film depicts the actions and events that happened and less about the music because that’s what the kids back then were doing. It was more about looking metal than the music itself.
I actually did a bit of digging into the chocolate milk and according to a film buff, what a character drinks in film or TV indicates who they are as a person. For example, drinking plain milk with nothing in it means the character is pure, sweet and innocent. Drinking chocolate milk is a sign of corruption or evil beating good. The only other thing I found was a quote Varg said once - "I killed him there and then because he tried to kill me. What else did he plan to do with the knife right after having attacked me?! Cut a slice of bread and have a chocolate milk?"
Ok the chocolate milk bit is within varg's personality, but the film is very Euronomous coded. Like the murder of the gay man was depicted as self-defense and the varg stabbing appeared to actually be self-defense from what I've learned.
It's like a dark comedy, I like how it makes fun of something that took itself so seriously. But it does have some nice cinematography here and there, so that's one point. But the lack of actual music from the scene is it's biggest failure
Lords of chaos the book was how we knew more about the black metal/death metal. The movie shouldnt have been called lords of chaos. Rory looked more like Fenriz than euro.
The sad part is Rory Culkin's normally a pretty good actor. Or at least I think he usually is. Then again, I'm not exactly a thespian, so everyone is a better actor than I am.
I have mixed feelings about it. On the plus side, I was pleasantly surprised by how accurate the clothes were. They actually really managed to capture the fashion of the time pretty much 100%. The locations were perfect too. The pacing of events as they unfolded wasn't bad either, and I felt the mood and the way they balanced the overall absurdity of these guy's lives with a sense of the underlying tragedy of it all was handled well too. On the minus side though, those American accents have to go. I would have done it in Norwegian with subtitles. They should have used more actual Black Metal as background soundtrack too. The lack of it was a glaring omission. Also, there was no need for the romance angle, and I thought some of the characterizations were way off - namely the depiction of Varg which imo was done on purpose out of - I'll wager - political animosity by people involved in the production with an ideological axe to grind. Overall though, it's a guilty pleasure I feel gets about 40% right, and 60% wrong. I can enjoy it, but I wish it had been more accurate as this is what casual viewers will take as gospel. For a more satisfying experience, try the excellent documentary Until the Light Takes Us which explores the subject matter more seriously.
The scene where Varg Vikernes kills Oystein Aarseth (Euronymous) was completely made up. According to Varg, Euronymous was fighting Varg throughout and Varg ended up winning. It could've easily been the other way around. Also I'm very positive given how Oystein let his Euronymous character take over his life he had no reason cutting his hair. Also Varg didn't drink chocolate milk.
Euromymous having short hair in this scene was based off of the crime scene photo of his murder in the news (which wasnt actually him, it was another dude laying there to imitate the crime scene)
I watched Lords of Chaos and wanted to learn more about the Black Metal scene. Then I watched the documentary Until the Light Takes Us. I got a lot of education from the documentary than this movie. Watching it again made me laugh because it was like watching a black metal Game of Thrones 😂
A friend a couple of years ago told me about mayhem and what happened, and a year back he sat me down and played the movie and started explaining every innacuracy. The movie felt like a couple of highschool friends listened to mayhem and were like "yo we can make a movie out of this".
The bit at the end about “if you already know the story and want to see it as an SNL sketch” perfectly encapsulates why I love this dumpster (church?) fire lol
I don’t really hate this movie mainly because it was my introduction to black metal and me and my friend still occasionally quote some of the dumbass lines. Plus I like the idea of showing these “ultra evil” people as a bunch of dumbass kids and the live performance in particular scene was really well done IMO. But the main things that truly hold me back from actually liking it is the GoT season 8 style screenplay that’s filled with some of the most cringe lines I’ve ever heard and pointless love story side plot that feels more like Euronymous fan fiction especially when you realize that the woman he’s with wasn’t even a real person; and just as importantly, the complete lack of direction is especially apparent in this. The actors look completely lost for a good chunk of this movie and when you give them a script this bad, no wonder everyone immediately wrote this movie off when it came out. I feel like if they had gotten an actual director/screenwriter and not some guy who’d only done music videos before who just so happened to have a cup of coffee with a black metal band in the 80s we would’ve gotten a significantly better project
Most of them were just stupid fucking kids...but then varg happened and it went from edgelords to "holy shit this guy is actually fucking deranged" Varg is a massive P.O.S and hasn't changed. Lord knows why he's been released.
Believe it or not the stabbing scene is unironically the most accurate part of the movie if you have ever seen someone stabbed adrenaline hits so hard you are more calm then you’d think and yes I know because I have been stabbed and literally I did almost the same thing I literally looked down saw it looked up and said why🤣🤣
I thought it wasn’t bad, the acting isn’t amazing but the way this whole black metal scene just spirals out of their control and becomes bigger than themselves is interesting. They were just kids trying to be edgy and some took it too far, who cares if the movie isn’t 100% accurate there’s books on that shit. The drummer ‘Necrobutcher’ wrote a book on his time with the band called ‘Mayhem: The Death Archives’ that’s pretty good, goes into how they started and has a bunch of old band pics
I didn't mind the movie but that aside, I remember Necro Butcher in the documentary Headbangers Journey and he came across as a drunken fuckhead. Several years later a friend of mine got us back stage passes to a Mayhem and Watain show here in Australia. The guys in Watain were top lads. Necro Butcher while not drunk still came across as a self conceded fuckhead. True story.
I only like this movie for the fact that it angers the “trve kvlt” community. Still cringe and weak acting, couldn’t even finish it. Edit: Life Metal is an absolute 🔥🔥🔥 album
also tbh ive never understood the complaint that they're not speaking in a norwegian accent. like if its about realism im pretty sure they'd just speak to each other in norwegian not english anyway so why on earth would they speak to each other in english in a norwegian accent... while in norway? it just seems like something cosmetic detail that doesnt actually make it more realistic or make sense to me
WOOHOO!! Always a good day when you post a new one dude - Many moons ago I walked into a bar with a local rock band on stage and dove head first into that sea of leather jackets and long-hairs like all my Chrismas's had come at once - you are literally my kind of people ♥
This movie isn't even good to reach for when you are high on drugs. Being high on drugs, I'll reach for a classic like Heavy Metal or Heavy Metal 2000 or a live concert DVD of some kind, that works also.
The sad truth is that whenever a story is taken over to be told by Hollyweird it just gets massacred and I agree this was possibly one of the worst if not the worst examples. It truly is a crazy story that was given a disservice by this joke of a movie. What movie execs will blow money on always amazes me.
I mean, given the directors personal history with some of the guys in the scene, this movie makes perfect sense. The dude personally worked with Dead back in the day when he was starting out making music videos: most notably Candlemass's Bewitched. Not only that, none of the bands in the movies would exist given he was one of the founding members of fucking BATHORY. He was the drummer and his cousin was the bassist. Admittedly he was gone either before or right after their debut album, but still.
One last funny bit of trivia, in the scene where euronymous makes fun of varg's scorpions patch thst was made up for the movie. IRL it was actually Motley Crue but I don't think the movie could afford to license the logo. Imagine Varg rocking out to Too Fast For Love or Girls Girls Girls
He played on a comp he was in from 83 to 84. He played on SMA to be precise (2 songs lol), before leaving the band and eventually directing music videos With actual celebrities like Madonna, Beyonce, Lady Gaga etc. He doesn't have nearly enough credibility to have made this film.
I had read a long time ago that Varg stabbed Oystein because he saw him wearing a white sweater or white shirt (kind of like how he looked in the stabbing scene in the movie). You would think in between the stabbings, Varg would have been a more sinister by at least grabbing a beer from the fridge. But nope, he busts out the milk and chocolate milk mix.
I know it's not an accurate take but I still enjoyed the film. The scene where they're all partying and jamming to metal made me wish I was there to join them. Seeing Euronymous in his record store made me want to browse around in there and chat with him. We never got this movie at my theater, but the dad of the guy who played Metallion came by and asked if we were showing it. I told him no it's a select theater thing and we didn't get selected, I asked him "what's the name of the movie" and he said "Lords of Chaos" I had no idea what that was til after he mentioned it. I googled it, saw a trailer, and watched the movie when it was on Hulu for awhile. I was shocked by the gore effects of this movie and I was like "wow, so that Metllion guys dad lives in my area?? Holy snap" I never did see him again, but if I do I would tell him to tell his son congrats on that roll. Not too many people can say they were in a black metal film about Mayhem. Wish it was me
You're entitled to your opinion but I lOVE this movie! I'm a 57 year old life long Metalhead. I first heard about Mayhem seeing their demo reviewed in Metal Forces Magazine. I'd expect elitist purist Black Metal fans to hate this but as videographer myself I understand how it's impossible to recreate a verbatim true life recreation. Also everyone who knows this story was NOT there to witness these events so have their own interpretations on what they've heard. This was directed by former Bathory drummer Joans Akerlund who is still very much a Metal guy despite his career making videos for pop acts. Despite a few minor flaws I think this is the best movie ever made about the Metal culture and a very accurate depiction of Metal Heads. I watch this film often and feel so at home!
"This movie sucks because it doesn't take place in an English speaking country and everyone's speaking English with a North American accent" Don't show this guy Schindler's List or a ton of other movies that star English speaking North American actors based on real events that occurred in foreign countries. Bro's gonna hate on it. He couldn't get basic lore about the characters or even Norwegian culture right. Dead was not Norwegian. He was born and raised in Sweden. And the average Norwegian can speak English extremely well. Better than most native speakers can. It's very likely that they spoke English around Dead and they spoke it very well. I'm not the biggest fan of this movie, but that is one of the dumbest criticisms I've heard about this movie throughout the years.
Also I never said Dead was Norwegian nor that Norwegians can't speak English. My complaint was that none of them sound even slightly Norwegian. Like if every character in Schindlers List had New Jersey accents. Jesus try to keep up...
I seem to remember hearing that none of the pertinent bands in the scene allowed their music to be licensed for the movie, so that probably explains the lack of actual black metal music in the movie. They didn't like the book that the movie was based off of either.
I mean, I genuinely think that some of the "cringe" aspects of the characters weren't so far of reality. Most of trves and black metal purists are cringe, so I really think they nailed it, but it's just not the same type of cringe they're supposed to do, this is just Hollywood-style cringe xD.
Stay very far away from anyone who is "Team Varg" 😅 I get what they're trying to do by making him look like an idiot. But you do a disservice to how intelligent and manipulative these people are by making out that they're goofy. By underestimating fascists we allow them to slip by unnoticed and sink their claws in.
I treat it sort of like nu metal. Do I like it? Not really. Is it annoying? Yes. Does it get people into metal? Somewhat sometimes. It's still unbelievable that we got an actual black metal movie
No offense, but tehnically they barely were adults, why would they put on overly edgy-satanists persona? Obviously they were edgelords more or less! I personally think Pelle's death is well executed but idk if the whole "got into college message from dad" was purely for emotional value to show that he still might've had a future ahead of him and that besides having his own "thing", he was still a very smart guy...
I enjoy the film because its really unintentionally funny because of how dumb so many of the scenes are, shit like having to make up a girlfriend for euronymous to make him less insufferable, the homo eroticism between euronymous and dead(euro starts fantasizing about him during sex with the made up girlfriend)that one woods dream sequence scene that used a dumbass stock sound effect when it was trying to be scary, just in general so much of it is so silly.
My first experience hearing about this movie was through the discourse of people complaining about the decision to cast a Jewish actor to play Euronymous; that set the tone for why I find it so amusing how much it upsets the black metal community, a community notorious for taking themselves too seriously. They dabbled in big-boy actions like arson and murder but Varg and company were/are lords of cringe. The dialog, casting choices, and accents are clumsy in this movie, though I give it credit for two scenes. The murder scene you mentioned, and the death of Per which is one of the most convincing depictions of suicide that I have seen on-screen. I am firmly in the camp of viewing this as a comedy, it seems too obvious a satire to interpret it as anything meant to be sincere or historically accurate. They lampoon everything about the individuals and the culture in a way that could only offend black metal enthusiasts. "this film, edge lords of cringe, depicts that as if they were all some dumb, spoiled, nervous dorks from the suburbs of Santa Monica." In a sense, they were. Norway is a utopia compared to many other countries including the United States.
It's funny to look at the props and sets. I think the milk carton is accurate for the year, but that O'boy box looks like it's from the 60s, I'm sure the design was more blue and glossy looking in 1993. Some of the prop bottles in the fridge look suspicious, I can't remember seeing any white bottles like that back in the day. I want to watch the movie now just to see how close it looks to 80s and 90s Norway. It will of course not sound right, which is the major problem I have with American and British movies set in a different country.
The original story is so edgy that any film that ain't a documentary would be edgy. If any person went into this story hoping for much accuracy, they are a lost cause honestly. Alone that it was adapted from the book every BM musician hates, which is chilling on my bookshelf as we speak. Even better, I got into BM when I was indeed an edgy 14 year old. 20 now and the story is still captivating. The movie is entertaining, so the job was done here. The aesthetic of clothes and Helvete, close to accurate. That chocolate milk bit? The most psycho thing is him only adding one spoon of powder. Varg is also such an edge lord, I wouldn't be suprised if he did that to mess with Euro. Dead was under used, for me he is and always was the most endearing of them all, and he leaves 30 minutes into the movie already?
yeahhh i remember when I stumbled on this one, i was goin down the black metal history youtube rabbit hole at the time, and i got to this..anddd i fell asleep
The movie states its a biographical film. The definition of such is a "dramatization of actual events." It's crazy to me how people forget the dramatization aspects of movies.
@@zeldablue7504did u skip through the first part of the movie where it clearly says it’s based on the truth and lies ? It’s not meant to be completely accurate or a biography.
The only thing this movie was missing is a record scratch and freeze frame of euronymous getting stabbed with the voice over “yep, that’s me. I guess you’re wondering how I ended up in this situation.”
I'm honestly surprised that didn't happen
😂😂😂😂
Definitely fictitiously stretched to make a movie and weirdly casted but if you were to take the names and story of mayhem out of it I would say it’s a good movie 😂
Ha, awesome.
that would have made it better, because then it could be viewed as parody rather than some serious attempt that ultimately failed.
"The Edgelords of Cringe" Bro, that's regular Mayhem
I find it funny that every actor in the movie sounds like a California kid despite being set in Norway
What else did you expect the producer to do? Dialect coaches are really expensive and this movie did not have a Hollywood production money. The producer talked about the accents in an interview and said that he wanted to appeal to a wide audience since black metal has expanded from just its scandinavian borders, because remember the point of this movie is an attempt to get more people interested in black metal, and also because he saw other movies attempt to do different accents and fail horribly, and that was with easy and common accents let alone more obscure Norwegian and Swedish accents. So yeah not trying to hate or anything but I always feel the need to say this to people who bring the accents up because it seems that even if the producers did try with accents, with their limited budget they probably would have done a horrible job and you guys would hate either way. So no matter what the producers are losing
@@alvisarker8621 this is definitely a fair point. Seeing these actors try to pull off fake Norwegian accents wouldve arguably been more cheesy and silly, maybe making the movie an even more so bad it's good experience
They act like ones as well. It's a far cry from what these guys were like.
Norwegians also don't speak English with a Norwegian accent to each other in their daily life.
Surprisingly I actually really like Lords of chaos
Just imagine it as a dark comedy and is amazing
I enjoy it as the hot mess that it is.
@@Grace-tg4oyright, when you realize it’s a hot mess you can kinda enjoy it a little more 😂😅
'imagine' is the right word, i still don't think the death scene of Pelle is something to laugh about.
@@raspberrynockwhat1935 neither do I
I still hate watching that scene because I love per, but I still enjoy the rest of the film
Maybe the movie was shitty because all of the people involved were massive edgelords but I like how goofy it is.
This isn't the movie black metal needs, it's the movie black metal deserves.
Extreme nonsense here.
*For ironic purposes, I assume* ? !
You know i'v never seen the film but I kinda want a glass of chocolate milk now
If there's anything to take away from this video it's this
I love chocolate milk
@@Togre3434 Same.
Trv Kvlt Chocolate Milk🤘
Choccy milk with a side of murder
One thing.. they actually WERE just stupid teenagers
I honestly just love how ridiculous it is that Euronymous is played by a less drugged up version of Kevin McCallister
I liked it if you watch the movie without expecting an accurate story the movie was fun, it also shows that all the members actually probably were cringey edge lords only they went further than all the normal edge lords, and it starts with the text: based on truth, LIES and what actually happened (the acting wasn’t the best though)
thank you, people dont understand a movie is for entertainment and MONEY! its not a fucking bible accurate movie
i love it because it is a big fuck you to varg lmao
I had a friend that happens to be communist and he couldn't enjoy Death of Stalin. When a fandom becomes a religion you need to chill the fuck out because you will see apostates everywhere
@@mhsdbfuihbdjffr they made him short and fat lmao
@@mhsdbfuihbdjfyes bro omg me too
"You're tearing me apart Varg!!" Hahaha good one!😂
"Edgelords of cringe" is a very good description of the whole Mayhem soap opera, it's a fucking youth rebellion that went slightly overboard
I like Lords of Chaos, it's such a funny middle finger to Varg Vikernes with his ridiculous character.
@@Obscure4747 true. Knowing he hated the way he was portrayed made the whole movie worth while
when I saw how angry varg's fans/nazis were about the movie I knew that it's gonna be good/fun
That was my favourite thing about it too
@@bohodebozzo nazi's are far left socialists (i.e. the current democratic party, for example).... varg's not a far leftist. just sayin'
You care more than Varg did. 😂
This movie isn't meant to be a documentary, but an entertaining movie and the depiction as cringy edgelords is absolutely correct. They all were weird edgy kids: Varg was 20 when he killed Euronymous, Pelle offed himself at 22, Faust was imprisoned at 19. They where Kids acting evil, posing with medieval weapons and 3rd reich memorabilia. That you actually believe this and call them "brutal occult creatures" is just weird, dude. Those were kids wearing witch hats in their music videos.
Because clearly I said "brutal occult creatures" completely seriously and without sarcasm....
@@wyattsmetalthink you missed his point, but it's cool man. 🤘
@@FalseNi9e I didn't, his point was they were immature kids, which I say multiple times in my video.
explain us how being killed by an immature kid is better than being killed by a mature man.
in the kid's case is the victim less dead?
He didn’t tho?
"Maybe Mayhem are the Friends we made along the Way"
And then varg and Euronymous make out
my favorite thing about this dumb movie is the dude playing occultus just yelling out hail satan every once in a while lol
As someone who was around new bands and having been stabbed, I can confirm that both experiences as portrayed in this movie are legitimately as awkward as they appeared on screen. The shock of being stabbed did make me say "why did you stab me?" before realising I was in danger of dying.
I loved this movie, it encapsulated everything funny about black metal and the portrayl of these people by awkward dudes in their 20s was a great way to show how try hard edgy black metal dudes are to this day. Met many black metal guys that behave very much like these characters and thats what made me enjoy the film so much. Its okay to enjoy things even if theyre not authentic to the truth.
I think it’s important to remember that the film depicts the actions and events that happened and less about the music because that’s what the kids back then were doing. It was more about looking metal than the music itself.
I actually did a bit of digging into the chocolate milk and according to a film buff, what a character drinks in film or TV indicates who they are as a person. For example, drinking plain milk with nothing in it means the character is pure, sweet and innocent. Drinking chocolate milk is a sign of corruption or evil beating good.
The only other thing I found was a quote Varg said once - "I killed him there and then because he tried to kill me. What else did he plan to do with the knife right after having attacked me?! Cut a slice of bread and have a chocolate milk?"
The best thing about this film is it annoys Varg 😂
Dont lie Wyatt....you know this was a cinematic masterpiece😂
he is trying hard😂
Ok the chocolate milk bit is within varg's personality, but the film is very Euronomous coded. Like the murder of the gay man was depicted as self-defense and the varg stabbing appeared to actually be self-defense from what I've learned.
It's like a dark comedy, I like how it makes fun of something that took itself so seriously. But it does have some nice cinematography here and there, so that's one point. But the lack of actual music from the scene is it's biggest failure
8:19 so Varg?
Lords of chaos the book was how we knew more about the black metal/death metal. The movie shouldnt have been called lords of chaos. Rory looked more like Fenriz than euro.
I'm not religious, but I hate seeing our old stavkirker engulfed in flames.
It's a beautiful piece of Norwegian history
if im remembering right, i think the chocolate milk scene is just there to ENTIRELY clown on varg claiming self defense
The only accurate thing in this movie is how cringe black metal is.
This guy is like the penguinz0 of the metal community
The sad part is Rory Culkin's normally a pretty good actor. Or at least I think he usually is. Then again, I'm not exactly a thespian, so everyone is a better actor than I am.
If you took this movie serious than YOU are the problem.
This movie was the Braveheart of Black Metal. Absolute ballocks, And yet, Funny.
Me and my gf think of it as a comedy movie. The way how they made Varg a spazz and euronymous a dork. Its hilarious ngl.
I have mixed feelings about it. On the plus side, I was pleasantly surprised by how accurate the clothes were. They actually really managed to capture the fashion of the time pretty much 100%. The locations were perfect too. The pacing of events as they unfolded wasn't bad either, and I felt the mood and the way they balanced the overall absurdity of these guy's lives with a sense of the underlying tragedy of it all was handled well too. On the minus side though, those American accents have to go. I would have done it in Norwegian with subtitles. They should have used more actual Black Metal as background soundtrack too. The lack of it was a glaring omission. Also, there was no need for the romance angle, and I thought some of the characterizations were way off - namely the depiction of Varg which imo was done on purpose out of - I'll wager - political animosity by people involved in the production with an ideological axe to grind. Overall though, it's a guilty pleasure I feel gets about 40% right, and 60% wrong. I can enjoy it, but I wish it had been more accurate as this is what casual viewers will take as gospel. For a more satisfying experience, try the excellent documentary Until the Light Takes Us which explores the subject matter more seriously.
100% agree!! I would have LOVED to watch this subtitled if it meant it was more authentic to the location
Also euro is literally gay idk why they have some girl portray as his gf 💀
The scene where Varg Vikernes kills Oystein Aarseth (Euronymous) was completely made up. According to Varg, Euronymous was fighting Varg throughout and Varg ended up winning. It could've easily been the other way around. Also I'm very positive given how Oystein let his Euronymous character take over his life he had no reason cutting his hair. Also Varg didn't drink chocolate milk.
Euromymous having short hair in this scene was based off of the crime scene photo of his murder in the news (which wasnt actually him, it was another dude laying there to imitate the crime scene)
@@glenndanzigsmanycats2045 This movie really let a prankster win, huh?
It's not a great movie but I will say I didn't expect a full on scene of Dead offing himself
I watched Lords of Chaos and wanted to learn more about the Black Metal scene. Then I watched the documentary Until the Light Takes Us. I got a lot of education from the documentary than this movie. Watching it again made me laugh because it was like watching a black metal Game of Thrones 😂
"education" 😂
but that's how it's supposed to be - you watch moviesfor entertainment and docos to learn something. be weird if it was the other way around
its almost like one is a documentary focused on facts and the other is a movie focused on entertainment.
Edge Lords of Cringe 😂😂😂
the chocolate milk scene was a refference to their meeting scene
Yeah when you acknowledge that it's a cringefest, it becomes a fun cringefest.
A friend a couple of years ago told me about mayhem and what happened, and a year back he sat me down and played the movie and started explaining every innacuracy. The movie felt like a couple of highschool friends listened to mayhem and were like "yo we can make a movie out of this".
If you look at the film as a satire, it’s laughably enjoyable.
The bit at the end about “if you already know the story and want to see it as an SNL sketch” perfectly encapsulates why I love this dumpster (church?) fire lol
I don’t really hate this movie mainly because it was my introduction to black metal and me and my friend still occasionally quote some of the dumbass lines. Plus I like the idea of showing these “ultra evil” people as a bunch of dumbass kids and the live performance in particular scene was really well done IMO. But the main things that truly hold me back from actually liking it is the GoT season 8 style screenplay that’s filled with some of the most cringe lines I’ve ever heard and pointless love story side plot that feels more like Euronymous fan fiction especially when you realize that the woman he’s with wasn’t even a real person; and just as importantly, the complete lack of direction is especially apparent in this. The actors look completely lost for a good chunk of this movie and when you give them a script this bad, no wonder everyone immediately wrote this movie off when it came out. I feel like if they had gotten an actual director/screenwriter and not some guy who’d only done music videos before who just so happened to have a cup of coffee with a black metal band in the 80s we would’ve gotten a significantly better project
Most of them were just stupid fucking kids...but then varg happened and it went from edgelords to "holy shit this guy is actually fucking deranged"
Varg is a massive P.O.S and hasn't changed. Lord knows why he's been released.
Believe it or not the stabbing scene is unironically the most accurate part of the movie if you have ever seen someone stabbed adrenaline hits so hard you are more calm then you’d think and yes I know because I have been stabbed and literally I did almost the same thing I literally looked down saw it looked up and said why🤣🤣
I thought it wasn’t bad, the acting isn’t amazing but the way this whole black metal scene just spirals out of their control and becomes bigger than themselves is interesting. They were just kids trying to be edgy and some took it too far, who cares if the movie isn’t 100% accurate there’s books on that shit. The drummer ‘Necrobutcher’ wrote a book on his time with the band called ‘Mayhem: The Death Archives’ that’s pretty good, goes into how they started and has a bunch of old band pics
I need to see this. Black Metal finally has its own version of Bohemian Rhapsody or Dahmer
I'm 100% sure the chockolate milk scene was purely for the prop departmet to show off their periodically accurate milk and O'boy containers.
10 seconds holy shit lmao
I didn't mind the movie but that aside, I remember Necro Butcher in the documentary Headbangers Journey and he came across as a drunken fuckhead. Several years later a friend of mine got us back stage passes to a Mayhem and Watain show here in Australia. The guys in Watain were top lads. Necro Butcher while not drunk still came across as a self conceded fuckhead. True story.
I only like this movie for the fact that it angers the “trve kvlt” community. Still cringe and weak acting, couldn’t even finish it.
Edit: Life Metal is an absolute 🔥🔥🔥 album
also tbh ive never understood the complaint that they're not speaking in a norwegian accent. like if its about realism im pretty sure they'd just speak to each other in norwegian not english anyway so why on earth would they speak to each other in english in a norwegian accent... while in norway? it just seems like something cosmetic detail that doesnt actually make it more realistic or make sense to me
WOOHOO!! Always a good day when you post a new one dude - Many moons ago I walked into a bar with a local rock band on stage and dove head first into that sea of leather jackets and long-hairs like all my Chrismas's had come at once - you are literally my kind of people ♥
Im not gonna lie, the chocolate milk scene was fucking funny
This movie isn't even good to reach for when you are high on drugs. Being high on drugs, I'll reach for a classic like Heavy Metal or Heavy Metal 2000 or a live concert DVD of some kind, that works also.
The sad truth is that whenever a story is taken over to be told by Hollyweird it just gets massacred and I agree this was possibly one of the worst if not the worst examples. It truly is a crazy story that was given a disservice by this joke of a movie. What movie execs will blow money on always amazes me.
The actor who played varg looks like my ex from the mental hospital 😭
8:50 every gatekeeper ever
2:35 why on earth should they speak with a accent? That makes no sense at all!
The chocolate milk scene is crazy
That movie may be the least cringe part about black metal
I mean, given the directors personal history with some of the guys in the scene, this movie makes perfect sense. The dude personally worked with Dead back in the day when he was starting out making music videos: most notably Candlemass's Bewitched. Not only that, none of the bands in the movies would exist given he was one of the founding members of fucking BATHORY. He was the drummer and his cousin was the bassist. Admittedly he was gone either before or right after their debut album, but still.
Also portraying them as dipshit edgelord teenagers was probably a lot more accurate than the bands themselves would willingly admit.
One last funny bit of trivia, in the scene where euronymous makes fun of varg's scorpions patch thst was made up for the movie. IRL it was actually Motley Crue but I don't think the movie could afford to license the logo. Imagine Varg rocking out to Too Fast For Love or Girls Girls Girls
He played on a comp he was in from 83 to 84. He played on SMA to be precise (2 songs lol), before leaving the band and eventually directing music videos With actual celebrities like Madonna, Beyonce, Lady Gaga etc. He doesn't have nearly enough credibility to have made this film.
My cat has more black metal credit than the director of this film
@@wyattsmetalyou’re the biggest edge lord of them all
I had read a long time ago that Varg stabbed Oystein because he saw him wearing a white sweater or white shirt (kind of like how he looked in the stabbing scene in the movie). You would think in between the stabbings, Varg would have been a more sinister by at least grabbing a beer from the fridge. But nope, he busts out the milk and chocolate milk mix.
I know it's not an accurate take but I still enjoyed the film. The scene where they're all partying and jamming to metal made me wish I was there to join them. Seeing Euronymous in his record store made me want to browse around in there and chat with him. We never got this movie at my theater, but the dad of the guy who played Metallion came by and asked if we were showing it. I told him no it's a select theater thing and we didn't get selected, I asked him "what's the name of the movie" and he said "Lords of Chaos" I had no idea what that was til after he mentioned it. I googled it, saw a trailer, and watched the movie when it was on Hulu for awhile. I was shocked by the gore effects of this movie and I was like "wow, so that Metllion guys dad lives in my area?? Holy snap" I never did see him again, but if I do I would tell him to tell his son congrats on that roll. Not too many people can say they were in a black metal film about Mayhem. Wish it was me
Well to be fair they're SUPPOSED to be cringey, you're supposed to see it from an outside perspective
"Edgelords of Cringe" fits almost any black metal band.
”Edge Lords of Cringe” that’s a very fitting title for the film / movie.
Black metal in general
You're entitled to your opinion but I lOVE this movie! I'm a 57 year old life long Metalhead. I first heard about Mayhem seeing their demo reviewed in Metal Forces Magazine. I'd expect elitist purist Black Metal fans to hate this but as videographer myself I understand how it's impossible to recreate a verbatim true life recreation. Also everyone who knows this story was NOT there to witness these events so have their own interpretations on what they've heard. This was directed by former Bathory drummer Joans Akerlund who is still very much a Metal guy despite his career making videos for pop acts. Despite a few minor flaws I think this is the best movie ever made about the Metal culture and a very accurate depiction of Metal Heads. I watch this film often and feel so at home!
"This movie sucks because it doesn't take place in an English speaking country and everyone's speaking English with a North American accent" Don't show this guy Schindler's List or a ton of other movies that star English speaking North American actors based on real events that occurred in foreign countries. Bro's gonna hate on it.
He couldn't get basic lore about the characters or even Norwegian culture right. Dead was not Norwegian. He was born and raised in Sweden. And the average Norwegian can speak English extremely well. Better than most native speakers can. It's very likely that they spoke English around Dead and they spoke it very well.
I'm not the biggest fan of this movie, but that is one of the dumbest criticisms I've heard about this movie throughout the years.
literally
Weird I don't remember the Germans in Schindler's List speaking like Californian surfer bros
Also I never said Dead was Norwegian nor that Norwegians can't speak English. My complaint was that none of them sound even slightly Norwegian. Like if every character in Schindlers List had New Jersey accents. Jesus try to keep up...
Varg Vikernes : The Suge Knight of Black Metal
you have no idea how loudly i laughed at "edgelords of cringe"
I seem to remember hearing that none of the pertinent bands in the scene allowed their music to be licensed for the movie, so that probably explains the lack of actual black metal music in the movie. They didn't like the book that the movie was based off of either.
I mean, I genuinely think that some of the "cringe" aspects of the characters weren't so far of reality. Most of trves and black metal purists are cringe, so I really think they nailed it, but it's just not the same type of cringe they're supposed to do, this is just Hollywood-style cringe xD.
To be fair, this is a comically but also overwhelmingly accurate representation of the average black metal fan
Theres a film called "heavy trip" which is a black metal film in norwegian
Stay very far away from anyone who is "Team Varg" 😅
I get what they're trying to do by making him look like an idiot. But you do a disservice to how intelligent and manipulative these people are by making out that they're goofy.
By underestimating fascists we allow them to slip by unnoticed and sink their claws in.
Agreed. Varg is a bad person but he’s also one of those well spoken people that can manipulate easily
This movie sums up how black metal really is:
Evil.
Stuff about satan
And absolutely stupid.
I love it
(Biased black-metalhead here)
u missed that euronymous lock was on the wrong side of the door to film the chocolate milk commercial.
Why the fuck is everyone still shitting on this movie for views lmao, everyone and their granddad milked this shit to death lol
the only legit part of this movie was the scene when dead killed himself
I treat it sort of like nu metal. Do I like it? Not really. Is it annoying? Yes. Does it get people into metal? Somewhat sometimes. It's still unbelievable that we got an actual black metal movie
No offense, but tehnically they barely were adults, why would they put on overly edgy-satanists persona? Obviously they were edgelords more or less!
I personally think Pelle's death is well executed but idk if the whole "got into college message from dad" was purely for emotional value to show that he still might've had a future ahead of him and that besides having his own "thing", he was still a very smart guy...
The only redeeming thing in this movie is the O'boy chocolate milk.
I got a challenge for you. Go to burning man and find all the metal that's out there. I'd watch that vid in a heartbeat
I enjoy the film because its really unintentionally funny because of how dumb so many of the scenes are, shit like having to make up a girlfriend for euronymous to make him less insufferable, the homo eroticism between euronymous and dead(euro starts fantasizing about him during sex with the made up girlfriend)that one woods dream sequence scene that used a dumbass stock sound effect when it was trying to be scary, just in general so much of it is so silly.
My first experience hearing about this movie was through the discourse of people complaining about the decision to cast a Jewish actor to play Euronymous; that set the tone for why I find it so amusing how much it upsets the black metal community, a community notorious for taking themselves too seriously. They dabbled in big-boy actions like arson and murder but Varg and company were/are lords of cringe. The dialog, casting choices, and accents are clumsy in this movie, though I give it credit for two scenes. The murder scene you mentioned, and the death of Per which is one of the most convincing depictions of suicide that I have seen on-screen.
I am firmly in the camp of viewing this as a comedy, it seems too obvious a satire to interpret it as anything meant to be sincere or historically accurate. They lampoon everything about the individuals and the culture in a way that could only offend black metal enthusiasts.
"this film, edge lords of cringe, depicts that as if they were all some dumb, spoiled, nervous dorks from the suburbs of Santa Monica."
In a sense, they were. Norway is a utopia compared to many other countries including the United States.
This movie is brought to you by O'boy choccy Milk, you can't be evil without some choccy Milk in your daily routine🤣
It's funny to look at the props and sets. I think the milk carton is accurate for the year, but that O'boy box looks like it's from the 60s, I'm sure the design was more blue and glossy looking in 1993. Some of the prop bottles in the fridge look suspicious, I can't remember seeing any white bottles like that back in the day.
I want to watch the movie now just to see how close it looks to 80s and 90s Norway. It will of course not sound right, which is the major problem I have with American and British movies set in a different country.
Yes, as you said, a Slinal Tap of Black Metal. That is the intent of the film and I think it did it well.
I enjoy the film.
but I liked it.
It is fun if you dont take it seriously
9:40 the makers of the movie said this
The original story is so edgy that any film that ain't a documentary would be edgy. If any person went into this story hoping for much accuracy, they are a lost cause honestly. Alone that it was adapted from the book every BM musician hates, which is chilling on my bookshelf as we speak. Even better, I got into BM when I was indeed an edgy 14 year old. 20 now and the story is still captivating. The movie is entertaining, so the job was done here. The aesthetic of clothes and Helvete, close to accurate. That chocolate milk bit? The most psycho thing is him only adding one spoon of powder. Varg is also such an edge lord, I wouldn't be suprised if he did that to mess with Euro. Dead was under used, for me he is and always was the most endearing of them all, and he leaves 30 minutes into the movie already?
I still wanna get with Sky. ;)
yeahhh i remember when I stumbled on this one, i was goin down the black metal history youtube rabbit hole at the time, and i got to this..anddd i fell asleep
So I finally watched "Lords of Chaos" last night, and...it's not too bad. I mean, if you don't take it too seriously, it's at least entertaining.
I grew up in the early 90s when all this happened. I was in High School when Euroymous was killed. This movie is a So bad it's very bad movie.
Varg Vikernes A man about whom the band Mayhem speaks well is portrayed poorly here because of his political stance. The film is rejected.
This movie is what happens when a black metal movie tries to have Detroit Rock City's humor.
Only actor who was any good at all was the one who played Necrobutcher
This is the best biopic ever made. It's also incredibly well made in its own right. How anyone could hate this film is beyond me.
The movie states its a biographical film. The definition of such is a "dramatization of actual events." It's crazy to me how people forget the dramatization aspects of movies.
@@zeldablue7504it literally says it's based on truth and lies in the very beginning. It never states that it's a biography
@@zeldablue7504did u skip through the first part of the movie where it clearly says it’s based on the truth and lies ? It’s not meant to be completely accurate or a biography.