Been into metal since i was 11 years old.i'm a black woman. You have no idea how many times i've heard metal is just crazy white boys. 25 years into metal now and honestly can 100% bust that myth. Met so many amazing people, from all types of backrounds.
I would say that Metal is the least soulful branch of R&R which In turn is "White R&B". Are you familiar with the Soul/Funk edge Glen Hughes and David Coverdale brought to Deep Purple in its 3rd incarnation?
Good video. I'm a 60 year old woman who really loves metal ever since I first heard Black Sabbath. I've been to tons of shows over the years. I have seen a lot of different kinds of people at shows. I think metal fans are some of the nicest people there are. Metal is such a misunderstood genre. Sad.
It's not about Metal really.. there are horrible people everywhere you go, church people, educated people. people who are part of the popular heliocentric religion.. lots of folks. Companies controlled by corrupt government will demonize anyone at the drop of a hat to push propaganda. except for heliocentrists.. they are wrong and even the governments fell for that lie.
Another thing to note about the grunge killing metal thing is that grunge was more or less a geographic lable and people seem to ignore the fact that half the grunge bands were heavy metal bands such as Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, TAD, Melvins etc.
Many so-called Grunge bands were just punk bands as well, it sounds like it was just a new way to repackage stuff by the marketing departments of record labels for younger kids who were starting to buy cd's.
Leaving glam hard rock aside, metal wasn't actually mainstream for very long - as in regular MTV and radio play. There was a wave of more commercially accessible metal in the early 90s: Metallica with the black album, Queensryche with Empire, etc. Still definitively metal elements, but noticeably geared towards seeking a wider audience. Then grunge took off and yeah, I do think it ended that moment in time - in part, because metal participated in its own demise. Metallica puts out Load and Queensryche puts out Promised Land, etc. - a lot of stuff that was chasing some kind of fusion with the alternative / grunge that was taking over.
You didn't even mention why the Napster case even started. It wasn't because Lars and Metallica were greedy like people think, or because they were protecting the future of music. They did it because the demo for their song "I Disappear" off the MI2 soundtrack was getting radio play before the song was even finished. When they found out the demo was found on Napster, that's when they pulled the trigger.
This. "I Disappear" got leaked onto the platform by someone before it was even finished and that's how Metallica actually even found out about it. And Lars was right to sue - Napster were making money off of artists' work while those artists weren't getting any payment in return.
Actually, it's not that Spotify doesn't pay the artists, it's that the labels don't pay the artists. Right now Spotify is unable to make a profit because a majority of their revenue goes to rights-holders.
Dio in that same interview you got that clip from says he didn't create it but helped popularise it and spread it in the culture. This is true, most people don't know who Coven is, but Dio is Metal royalty and will always be associated with the Devil horns.
Most people don't know Coven (although their album is excellent!) but I bet they know of The Beatles. Go have a look at John Lennon's hand on the Yellow Submarine album cover...
@@000vanish5 Yeah, but that was the cartoonist that drew the pictures of the Yellow Submarine film. You may also notice that in many cartoons of the 1960-1990 period, many characters had three as opposed to 4 fingers.
Neither Dio nor Coven invented that. In the 70s American audiences would give the two finger salute at concerts. I believe it came from Texas football fans as a ward against bad luck. The index and pinky fingers represent goal posts (not the devil).
i especially appreciate the debunking of the 8th myth. as a black metal fan, i always feel the one thing ppl take away from me telling them i listen to metal is ‘that’s a white person genre’ besides other stupid comments like it just being mindless noise & maybe assuming i’m a devil worshipper. metal is for absolutely everyone & that take has always been aggravating to me.
Metal came from rock n roll, which was black music....rock n roll came from blues, which is REALLY black Music. Therefore, Metal Is Black Music. Tell Those Stupid People That!!!
Eh, I understand trying to convince the mainstream that, but the amount of bands especially from countries as Finland, France, Poland, Ukraine & Russia where the largest, most popular black metal acts are mostly ones that are explicitly white supremacist & the other bands that aren’t usually have one or two neo-nazis as members, I don’t think we should downplay that this fact.
I listen to death, black, melodic, I like of the bands, I get the same attitudes, ignore them they are being shallow minded! Ill listen to any style if music and see if I like it?
The Metallica Napster thing was not about royalties, Lars consistently said he supported bootlegs of Metallica shows. Metallica was pissed that the demo version of their song "I disappear" appeared on Napster and couldn't take it down. Lars in particular said that was the reason for suing Napster, as the song was unfinished. Literally nowhere did they say it was about royalties, but as you proved, even if they said that, they would be proven right.
The thing with RJD having started metal horns due to his grandmother isn't in the least bit diminished by the fact that Crowley used the horns hand gesture previously. Upon seeing Geezer using the horns, it could've easily reminded Dio of his grandmother using it from years ago and drew his attention to it. Different symbols and gestures recur throughout history and different cultures and take on different meanings. Crowley used it for occult meanings, Dio's grandmother was warding off evil hexes, and down in Austin it signifies support for the Texas Longhorns. Case in point, even though Leonard Nimoy got the Vulcan salute from his rabbi as a boy I'm sure it's appeared throughout history and that just happened to be the origin path that it took. Synchronicities do occur in interesting ways.
It's one of those things appearing in multiple cultures around the world. As you said synchronisity is a truly amazing thing. In some parts of Italy it's a really old tradition and he took it from his grandma as stated by him. He did so as early in Elf and Rainbow(As can be seen in live footage of Rainbow and I remember seeing some pics from elf), before Geezer or whomever, and used it in context it was used in his Italian tradition. Later on in Sabbath he rebranded it as his answer to other gestures of the time, namely Ozzy as he stated. He definitely wasn't the only one of course, everything mentioned in the video is legitimate, but he took the initiative and made it what it is today. Anyone else also could've, but they obviously had no intent to make it their staple... and that is why he gets the credit. Judging it by who did it first is plain stupid since you can just imagine him going on for a walk with his grandma as a 5 year old and throwing or his grandma being shown such a gesture for the first time lol
@@EpicZadrani well, and not only that, but consider the use of black (and sometimes red) leather as the uniform of metal. There's been leather worn in rock music before, but it was Rob Halford, and then by extension Priest, who popularized it.
It's also used in one scene in the James Bond film 'Thunderball'. The the majority of people point the horn at themselves, I always fond that strange, but it's the way it's been popularized.
Yup, in symbolism, a Symbol can have a hundred meanings, The situation in which it is used and in connection with other symbols define its meaning in the situation.
Painkiller should tell you that metal was alive and well in the 90s. You either evolved with popularity or you evolved with metal. Meaning you either turned soft and went with the flow or you got heavier. Judas Priest got heavier.
@@komodosp Maximum the Hormone, Lovebites, Waggaki Band, X-Japan, Nemophila, BabyMetal, Band-Maid (more hard rock than metal), Ningen Isu, Asterism. There are tons more.
@@killermonjerodon’t miss the Japanese band called cold rain, saw them play live when I went to see bullet for my valentine, THEY DEFINITELY got a huge amount of new fans that night
I have something to add to the whole Devil horns matter. I have lived in Italy all of my life and can confirm that that sign is of common use in the country mainly with two meanings: - a defensive one, used to ward off evil but mainly simply bad luck (the equivalent of "touch wood" for instance). Example: someone says to you: "Oh, you're going on holiday tomorrow, hope all goes well..." and you flash out your horns against the implication that it may not - an offensive one, implying that someone "wears horns" and is thus a cuckold. Very popular whilst driving when somebody performs some bad manoeuvre and you want to make them know what you think about them... Actually giving the evil eye is something I've never heard of, but it could belong in a more remote past. So, basically, Ronnie's story about his granny is absolutely believable being of italian descent. I have no doubt she may have used that sign especially against bad luck. Possibly he took that from Geezer simply because it was already familiar to him, and the rest is history.
The second one we also use here in Portugal....we call that person "Corno" (Horn in Portuguese). Normally is to a person (mainly men) that was cheated on.
I think there may be different views on the horns depending on which way you’re holding them up? Are you looking at the back of your hand or the palm of your hand when doing so?
I saw Dio with Black Sabbath at Lebanon Valley Speedway in 1980. Broad daylight no colored lights, bare stage. Ronnie came out and sang Neon Knights and the world went away. It didn’t even notice how short he was !!! Still seems like giant to me.
I have always felt that heavy metal rock was, from it's evolution in the mid-60s to now, intelligent music that took in influences from interesting places and many of its practitioners were intelligent and articulate musicians.
Some metal bands are composed of elite musicans with classical training who incorporate elements of classical music into their song writing. Here's an example from my favourite band, a Japanese all female Power/Thrash band. ua-cam.com/video/WBhtqgiXEA4/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Hadesillo
It's like any genre of music, there's a wide variety of bands and styles to choose from. You can have a fine meal that's carefully prepared, or you can have a quick take-out meal to satisfy your hunger. Both can be delicious.
Yet the world music stores music videos and the industry it's self just wants to push pop culture radio friendly music on society. Go into a music store same old stuff Beatles, Zeppelin, The Doors or Metallica etc merchandise on sale when was the last time you ever saw a Motorhead mug on the store shelves. Even MTV or Much Music would cut up the power hour with commercials and fill it with pop music ads. They just don't see they talent in heavy music ever look at Megadeth guitar tab very technical nut to the whom ever its just noise.
@@daviddoyle8956 And that's why you need to go searching for yourself. There is a world of amazing music out there just waiting to be discovered. If you're a fan of hard music, and you want to see something different, check out the numerous Japanese all-female metal bands. They are amazingly talented. Here's a few to check out if you're interested: LOVEBITES, Nemophila, Hanabie.
My first Slayer show. The crowd surges forward and I go down. I am like "oh shit" I gotta get back up. Then some huge fucker pics me up by the shirt collar and gives me a thumbs-up.
When you said "Is black really white?", I thought you were going to continue with "Is the moon just the sun at night?". It's funny when you think Dio popularized the devil horns when touring for the Heaven and Hell album and the Heaven and Hell song is all about not taking things for granted and believing everything you hear.
Well Dio DID bring the Evil Eye Gesture to metal and it was part of a personae he adopted when he joined Sabbath. He NEVER makes the gesture in old Rainbow videos. I think Dio had a Romani/"Gypsy" background
Some grunge bands like Soundgarden, Alice in Chains and Warrior Soul had at least some metal and hard rock influences. I actually think they helped boost and change metal so that it could borrow from other genres.
Alice In Chains always considered themselves as a metal band. They begrudgingly accepted the “grunge” moniker because it helped propel their careers. Never heard anyone mention Warrior Soul. Pretty amazing band that should’ve been huge.
Warrior Soul were not anything to do with grunge and were never associated with it. I saw them supporting Metallica in 89, they were tipped for big things but never really went any further.
alice is really the only one that i liked. i think i dipped my toe into grunge in the '00 long after the scene was dead, and it didnt last long. they tried to go back to basics but it was too basic. durring the '90s actual i found myself listening to '80s thrash and death metal while most everyone else was hooked on either grunge or hip hop.
Grunge does not say anything about the sound … its not even a clear music style … what have all Sub Pop bands in common in 1991 … grungy sound … thats how grunge was birnnand defined … thats all grunge refers to … its no real music style … from there, grunge was everything the media and industry started to associate with it … most bullshit … useless to Analyse … metal, no grunge, no alternative … all useless blah blah …
I always heard the story as "While Dio didn't invent the devil horns, he popularized it and made it a staple of the metal genre," so the ending wasn't really that shocking.
I went to a Deftones and Gojira concert recently in DC. It was the most diverse group of people I have ever seen. I met a guy how brought his 12 year daughter who was a Gojira fan to her first concert. I met a 65 year old black guy there. Every race and every age was there, It was beautiful, all of us there to share our love for music.
When you're in a metal concert, financial status, ethnicity, age and whatever gender out there doesn't matter. Once you're in the pit, you're equal as anyone else. The only rules are that you don't be an a-hole, at a pit, if you fall on the ground you get picked back up. Metal is for everyone
Regarding the Dio "Devil horns" thing, I mean, Ronnie doing it in Black Sabbath made the hand gesture synonymous with Hard Rock/Heavy Metal. I mean, other bands or artists were doing it before, but it wasn't until Dio did it in Black Sabbath that Metalheads adopted it into the culture of Metal.
You heard the story, I am sure. The devils horns are what Ronnie said his grandmother said was warding off evil. Some sort of Italian thing. You flashed the horns at a person you thought was out to harm you. Not entirely true, in my opinion. Heavy metal was always associated with that evil, horned deity with the pitchfork. Look at how many bands wrote a song about the devil, or that had a tinge of satanic overtones, either in the lyrics, or on the album cover. There are plenty of bands that take their embrace of satanism to the extreme. Look at the black metal scene. I think Ronnie may have used the horns, and dark lyrics, as an album selling gimic. He said he did not believe in God. He was down to earth, though. He was a New York Yankees fan. How down to earth can you get than that?????
@@mylovesongs2429it does have basis in historical fact, hell pope pius ix used it. dio learned it through his heritage, you could just have easily learned it from a book on occultism.
I got into metal music during the pandemic… helped me dealing with difficult emotions as a health worker. I’m from Chile, and travelled all the way to Graspop, Belgium… and was welcomed in a very awesome way from everybody! The festivals and concerts are safer than many more popular artists right now. I love the metal community ❤
@wyattsmetal Absolute ignorance if anyone thinks "metal is just for white people". Bonz from Stuck Mojo is one of my favourite vocalists ever. Then you obviously hve Derrick Green, Lajon Witherspoon, Tobin Abasi. Plus bands the like The Hu. I liked how u showed Jasad from Indonesia. 🤘 Metal is international & we are all one big tribe.
@@heikkijhautanen4576 Slayer sold far more albums in the 90s. Pantera exploded in popularity. The idea that glam was the only indicator of metal's health was a preposterous lie invented by self important pop music rags who neither understood nor liked metal and were hoping it would disappear.
@@heikkijhautanen4576 He is right, as a matter of fact Metallica´s 80s´album sold way more in the 90s´ thanks to the explosion of the global phenomenom that was the Black Album AND that explosion brought in the early 90s´Metal to the massev wich sky rocketed the sales of everybody, from Maiden to Dio to Pantera
Metal concerts are the best! everyone's so cool and almost every mosh pit I was ever in after the show. Everyone would hug each other and thank everyone for having search a good time!
About the moshing rumor. I, after about 15 years of metal concerts and moshing at most of them. I have found people to be wild, but still mindful of what they're doing. There was a pretty serious pit at a Chiodos show back in 2010. A couple of us had some busted lips and bloody noses. And when a big drop happened, a dude suddenly hit the floor, and his much needed glasses go flying into the crowd. We all stopped. Held our arms out. A formed a circle around him so he was able to get back up. And the guy next to me got handed his glasses and handed them back to him. They were TRASHED. But he put them back on, let out a scream, and we all went right back to it. We got each other's backs, we don't wanna see anyone seriously hurt. We just wanna flail and dance!
That is too true. Out of all the concerts I have been to (including some bad boys), I can not think of many instances where violence grew beyond play. Though some played it very convincing, they were in control and enjoying themselves and not just making trouble for others.
i remember one time i was moshing to a small pub band, i think i elbowed a guy in the nose and he was bleeding, i followed him in to make sure he was ok. 10 minutes later we were back in the pit.
Good vid man. It's not like I have to say it but, I've been a pro metal guitarist for at least 10 years, im black and I love metal. From the stage to the pit. It's the most diverse music and people. Dimebag is why I play guitar. Just subbed 🤘🏽.
Good video, thanks for mentioning metal bands outside of US. I checked out Bloodywood right away and was impressed. Rock/Metal music isn't dead, it's just not mainstream at the moment. People will always need the outlet of Metal; therefore it will never die.
frankly i prefer it that way. all the publicity of hair metal pretty much consumed the entire subgenre, and destroyed grunge even faster. good thing underground metal carried it forward. otherwise it would have been as dead as disco. it really is unstoppable. pop music is for people who are too lazy to change the station on the radio.
The story that I had heard with the doves was that Ozzy and Sharon went to a meeting with the execs at CBS Records, and at the end of the meeting, they were going to be released out the open window of the conference room. They didn't bring them over to the window to release them, though. They just figured the doves would make their way out through on their own. One dove made it, but the other one hit the closed window and fell on the floor, presumably next to Ozzy. Drunk and high as he was, he thought it was dead already, picked it up and bit the head off it.
Dude....awesome video! Thank you for mentioning Indonesia where heavy metal never died off. I'm Indonesian and have been a metalhead for about 35 years now. I really enjoyed and appreciate this video!
Alice Cooper and the chicken 🐔 has always been my favorite story. Throw in Frank Zappa and you know it's entertaining. Also the time Alice Cooper meet Elvis Presley is entertaining as well.
I love that story. For those who don't know it, at a show in Toronto, someone threw a chicken onto the stage during Alice's show. Alice, not knowing it was a real chicken, picked it up and threw it back into the crowd, who proceeded to rip it apart - literally. There's video footage of feathers flying everywhere. Later on, Frank Zappa asked Alice if the story he heard was true. Alice confirmed it, but told Frank he didn't know it was a live chicken. Frank replied, "Well, don't tell anyone else that."
@@robertkennedy5414What complete nonsense! Alice has commented about it in many taped interviews. He was well aware it was a live chicken! This can even be seen in the video! Alice always said that … as stupid city boy he was convinced birds with wings can fly … but throwing it back for it to fly away it ended up in the disabled section of the venue and was turned into KFC. The Zappa bit was also crap … as the papers and news were full of that fail … how was he supposed to ‘not mention it’ … everybody knew. Only difference … most papers exaggerated it … he bit the head of the chicken off killing it himself!
16 years ago I collapsed the entire circle pit at Harpo's in Detroit while Fear Factory was playing Edge Crusher. One of my favorite memories I can still remember.
Brilliant vid wyatt. Got into metal in 1976 myself. Age 12. Heard symptom of the universe. Changed my life. Metal became my life. Lost a wife over my love. Of metal not her 🤣. The devil's horns section. Number 11. Wow. Great research my metal brother. I've just subscribed. You know you're stuff mate. Keep it up. 👍🤘🤘🤘🤘. Ps SLAYEEEEEER. 🇬🇧
That last word which you wrote saved my life four times. 1.Overdose at 19 age-I somehow heard Tom Araya's voice in my ears(kind of halucination) and woke up from the dead. 2.Gunshoted in chest at 23 age-I spoke in my head lyrics from 'In The Name Of God' thinking about how I never met Kerry King praying that for last wish,survived. 3.Car accident at 30 age-saved by fast reflexes from my arms and legs which I upgraded by playing drums from my teen years(Dave Lombardo was and is an idol) so I braked on time and suffered minor injuries while car finished in flame nearly I dropped out. 4.Suicide attempt at 38 age-I cut my arterries on both arms at dawn on the hill over the city with perfect wiew for dying because Jeff Hanneman died and personal issues,saved by young couple of goths. I understand your short story which you wrote-be sure. Slaaaayeeeerrrrrr!!!🤘💥☠👹
You spoke to me directly. I'm 40 or in other words an old metal head. I heard all those and i never believed that Dio invented the metal horns, when i first heard it i was incredulous and had to look some stuff up and was never convinced despite seeing that lots of folks believed it.
Heavy metal is definitely not just for pale folk...lol...my introduction to music heavier than Metallica or Slayer was by a guy who was not white. He is mixed- white momma and black dad. But he grew up around mostly white people and got into metal. He sounds like a surfer dude when he talks, probably because he's from Florida (he lives in upstate New York like I do). Without meeting and hanging out with him, I may have never heard bands like Cannibal Corpse or Deicide or GWAR or King Diamond....ironically my last boyfriend I had, who was white, introduced me to hip hop...😁
Sure, but these people are exceptions. You say it yourself "he grew up around mostly white people and got into metal". The question is would he have gotten into metal if he grew up in a black neighborhood? Most likely not.
I was expecting to see Rob Halford with one of his notorious kitty t-shirts when you mentioned puppies and kittens. Small bit of trivia: many of stray cat rescuers, fosters and volunteers in Athens Greece are metalheads. PS. Shira, the oldest of my ten cats has been known to play air drums to SOAD's toxicity with me.
I've had the good fortune of knowing several people in metal bands. And because of them, I've met some more. In every case, they were some of the nicest and smartest people I've ever met! Metal!!! 🤘👍🤙
Love the 70K clips!! My first boat was 2016. Last night of cruise, they have karaoke on top deck. After 3 days of binging & loosing voices at the shows, plenty of us just wanted to wail out on love ballads, rap & pop. My first boat had karaoke for "I Will Always Love You"!! Another dispelling of metal myths, early this year AUS researchers published psychological studies that indicates metal music may actually be responsible for reducing stress & depression. While not conclusive, it compared stress & depression among 15k participants.
gotta agree, im native in a metal band, tons of natives on all the reservations are huge metalheads, and in oklahoma metal crowd are usually half native and half white
Streaming services killed the biggest source of income, record sales. The music industry and it's less than ethical and unrealistic contract requirements
metal/alt rock clubs were the safest places i frequented growing up and an Aussie moshpit was just full of lunatics having an awesome time but the moment a person fell, many hands raised them up again...
Completely agree !!!!! Same happens in the UK. .. Defo best years of my life in the rock bars and clubs in North East England other than fucking my hearing up now with tinnitus. I genuinely miss the daft laughs and debates on who was the best guitarist/ drummer / singer / band. I get the impression that these days theres an underlying rage with the crowds, not a daft laugh and jumping about. Saw Slayer, Anthrax and all the original metal bands who set the style for today. Felt safe, had fun, got pissed and loved it all !
Cannot agree at all … 40 years of metal gigs and many moshpits were not having any support for fallen fans … injuries and bruises normal … but all in all moderate. For clubs this did not count, they were pretty safe.
One of the biggest testaments (ha ah) i had was a few months ago, i went with my girlfriend to a metal show. (She's not into metal at all mind you) I told her i wanted to mosh to my favorite band. She stayed at the back and i went to do my thing 😅 I came back 1 and half hour later and asked if everything was ok, and she said yes, that no one bother her and she felt safe . And it's true. The majority of metalheads mind their own business, they don't harass and they help if they can. We also know how to have fun, even at the expense of making fun at ourselves, being goofy and silly. It's kinda wholesome seeing that to be honest. 😊
The part about metal crowds should be told to everyone scared of metal, although I did take a boot to the back of my head watching Sepultura at Bloodstock this year by a rogue crowdsurfer
I think the more popular myth is that “Metallica sued their fans cuz they’re greedy.” THEY NEVER SUED THEIR FANS. They sued Napster. Napster told them they shouldn’t bother because they would never be able to name any specific users who illegally downloaded their songs. They then proved to them that IF THEY WANTED TO, they could find specific users who illegally downloaded their songs.
I heard that Metallica were urged to do it by other bands. Being such a big name they felt they should represent the other up and coming bands who wouldn’t be able to make a living from their music the way Metallica had. It sure how true this is.
Publishers were the ones going after those using Napster and other services with copyright infringement suits. More than a few articles from the mid to late 2000s about families getting sued because their kids were secretly pirating music and movies in their homes.
Napster was a then-modern version of the same underground tape trading community that gave Metallica their original fan base. It seemed hypocritical to me at the time.
@@jeffreylebowski7459 As Lars himself said, there’s a difference between passing around crappy sounding bootlegs of live performances and demos of a band playing in nightclubs and leaking an exact copy of an artist’s new album or song online before it was even released. Stealing copies of kill em all from record stores is not what tape trading was. Napster was an unprecedented phenomenon that the band felt should be monitored to some degree.
@@trevorganoe748 MP3s were a crappy sounding copy that if you liked it, you went and bought it, if you didn't like it, there was no chance of a sale, if you didn't care, you weren't going to buy it anyway and if you never heard it, no future sales either. Metallica lost both current and future possible fans. There are a lot of music out there ( of any type ) that is still copyright protected but unavailable as it is "out of print". That music is now dead, no new fans hearing it, all the old fans are dying and the copyright holder is crying that no one will pay them anymore. Back in the day, the only music I downloaded and used where MP3s of unavailable any other way. If I liked it I bought it on CD. I still prefer buying it to streaming as they do endup removed from the streaming service ( And the @#$%ing constant ads, the cost of mobile data and the service itself... Buy 5 albums a year is still cheaper. )
The last time I saw anthrax live I caught a hard elbow in the face, I didn’t really feel it to much and didn’t even realize it drew blood until I got on the subway home and someone asked if I was ok. I’m like yea I’m feeling fine, then she mentions that I have blood all down the side of my face lol 😂
I can’t believe you’ve heard of Pantera that’s so insane dude. Also you just ruined my life with that fun fact about the devil horns, I don’t know what to make of life anymore
@@ilikeguitars3511 True, it’s just kind of crazy that I’d never once heard anyone say it was started by anyone besides him. I’d heard people disprove pretty much all of these besides that one
@@hannahkozlovic1715 I mean technically Italians invented it, dio just incorporated it into his act cause his grandma showed it too him, and that's the only reason it's such a big part of metal.
On May 5, 2000, I was at the "Kabaal Am Gemaal (Hubbub at the Pumping Station)" festival in Wageningen, The Netherlands. There, I saw an elderly couple (in their late 60s, early 70s?) very much enjoying the death metal band, that was performing. That was so awesome to see! And in 2020, at the Steel Panther show in Utrecht, all kinds of people were there; from metalheads to bank managers, young and old, big and small, all kinds of races. You see? That's why metal is the best!
#9 DEFINITELY applies to hardcore shows, those shows are legit dangerous, because most of the fans are legit into crowd killing shit, while a good majority of metalhead pits consist mainly of just ramming into each other.
Love your comments Wyatt much appreciated for every metal fan it is true yes a lot are so true and false we surely know it but as metal fans who gives a crap for me I come from Galway Ireland have been a metal fan over 30 years and for me the biggest upset I have is when metal bands just went so commercial as like Metallica, Megadeth and Anthrax there albums diluted so much you would not see that happened to Slayer, Exodus, Testament or Forbidden or Death Angel my own other two favourites Iron maiden staying good but had a couple of crap albums at end ,Napster scenario is true butt Metallica have millions made at the end of the day what matters is fans like you and me I am a fan of all types of music and am a drummer as well Dave Lombardo genius double bass kick pedal drummer 👍👍 best wishes Declan 👍
You said it, if it takes no talent then lets see the person saying that do it. Nevermind how much warm up it requires over clean vocals. I always refer people to Lacey Strum's video about it.
The ONLY way you get hurt at a metal concert is if there’s karate in the pit haha! And even if Dio didn’t start the horns, at least Gene fucking Simmons didn’t either!!
Pits are intense, true. My fractured rib can vouch for that xD However every time I've seen someone going down in the pit several dozens arms reach out to prop the unfortunate. That's my experience :D
I heard a few times that Beavis and Butthead killed the band Winger Also, there's an interview with Lemmy RIP where he answers a question from a kid about Heavy Metal and racism It's a great clip
Going to my first metal concert in a few days - up in the seats. As someone with no metalhead friends, it's reassuring to hear some of those last points.
The Marilyn Manson one is timeless, and it's not unique to him. It somehow spread across every high school all over the world, but the celeb differs from school to school and generation to generation. I've heard a whole bunch: Marc Bolan, Ozzy, Marilyn Manson, Sidney Lee, Alice Cooper... In more recent years, I've heard tales that these days, it's not metal singers or guitarists anymore, but rather gay influencers like Jeffree Star and whatnot.
One of my favorite memories meeting a metal head in the wild was an older dude looking like a biker with patches all over his leather west and a black kilt, looking like he was ready to kill anyone to oppose him... Melted like ice cream when he saw my chihuahua puppy and cried his eyes out when he got permission to hold and pet my puppy, which he told me was the best day he had in a loooong time. Hope to meet the dude again some day!
Thank you for clarifying the issue of the mainstream 90s. Lots of bands released their best stuff then but it just wasn't on mtv or radio. Immortal really got talented and dropped the low-fi black metal pride shit. Death released their inhumanly skilled albums all in the 1990s. Mercyful fate returned and still rocked. The list goes on and personally I enjoy digging deep to find the good stuff. It's rewarding :)
As far as people saying that metal is just screaming that takes no talent...yeah there are people that say that. But from my experience most people aren't rejecting the talent level that it takes to do that, they just simply don't even LIKE any type of screaming or metal music in general really...or if they do like high vocals, they certainly usually do not like THAT type of screaming that you hear in the metal world. They can't relate to that type of aggression. Screaming/shouting/growling in rebellion is not something that "normies" really have ever accepted. That's the real reason why most "normal" people don't like any type of metal, let alone the genres and bands associated with screaming. I was also like that as a kid. I didn't even care for Halford's highest screams in Priest when I was still new to discovering all the classic metal bands. At that time 24 years ago, I was drawn to metal for the heaviness and chugging riffs aspect of it. It took a good while for me to appreciate the screaming, high vocals, and also the low growling/grunting in extreme genres of metal music. Now I absolutely love it and have almost completely forgot about not really being into it at all originally, all those years ago.
I hate when people say metal is only for white people. Im mexican and ALL I listen to is metal, hell just five minutes ago I listen to infant annihilator.
I’m not a huge metalhead, but used to go to a few thrash, punk etc gigs with mates back in the day. Always found that even in the most hectic mosh pit, if anybody went down there’d be at least 3 people ready to pick them up again.
Metal is the only genre that gives you a good enough reason to be friends with someone, I see a stranger on the road wearing a t shirt with a band I like?, we are friends
Another band that used the horns in the 1970s was the band Funkadelic (they were also on the heavier side of psych and rock at times too) they said" it was a pass to the mother ship " . Another strange thing - someone them were followers of the satanic cult Process Church of the final judgement . They had some degrimstones quotes on their album liner notes. Ps check out the song super stoopid, Alice in my fantasies , trash agogo they had some other hand rocking tunes
On the topic of singing, I have huge respect for many metal artist who can do half of what you listed vocally. I used to think it was something easy, that was until I tried doing it myself and wound up having a nearly torn throat for at least a week solid after. (Worst week of my life btw, couldn't even swallow water without nearly crying) When these guys do those vocals, you know they are giving it 150%
I just bought the sick the dying and the dead And yesterday I bought youthanasia I don't think this has anything do with the video I just wanted to tell Wyatt and his fans🤘🏻🤘🏻
If it wasn't for ronnie, the metal horns wouldn't be so prominent in metal, even if he didn't do it first, that sign is his. Ronnie is the goat rest in peace
Obviously Dio made it what it is today, and he's definitely not wrong from learning it from his grandmother. That had gesture has been used for years by lots of esoteric and religious groups. I bet the Italian/Sicilian thing comes from the ancient Mediterranean pre-Roman bull cults that were all over that area, and where modern bullfighting comes from.
The hair metal section is astonishing in its editing and narrative, quashing the myth whilst giving an ideal definition and overview of the movement itself.
Been into metal since i was 11 years old.i'm a black woman. You have no idea how many times i've heard metal is just crazy white boys. 25 years into metal now and honestly can 100% bust that myth. Met so many amazing people, from all types of backrounds.
Saying metal is for white people is like saying hip hop is for black people. It's a very strange thing to say. Listen to whatever floats your boat.
I'm a mulatto dude whose been in to metal since I was 13. I'm 30 now. Metalheads are my family x) never felt so accepted in my life
I would say that Metal is the least soulful branch of R&R which In turn is "White R&B". Are you familiar with the Soul/Funk edge Glen Hughes and David Coverdale brought to Deep Purple in its 3rd incarnation?
Same. Been listening to metal since I was nine. 37 years later I still love it
Black musicians created and pioneered the genre
The last one, it doesn't matter Who started it. Just as long as everyone knows it Wasn't Gene Simmons
Facts
This guy gets it.
Good video. I'm a 60 year old woman who really loves metal ever since I first heard Black Sabbath. I've been to tons of shows over the years. I have seen a lot of different kinds of people at shows. I think metal fans are some of the nicest people there are. Metal is such a misunderstood genre. Sad.
it IS misunderstood, but metal itself, is at the very least partially responsible for at least the continuance of some of the stereotypes...
It's not about Metal really.. there are horrible people everywhere you go, church people, educated people. people who are part of the popular heliocentric religion.. lots of folks. Companies controlled by corrupt government will demonize anyone at the drop of a hat to push propaganda. except for heliocentrists.. they are wrong and even the governments fell for that lie.
Another thing to note about the grunge killing metal thing is that grunge was more or less a geographic lable and people seem to ignore the fact that half the grunge bands were heavy metal bands such as Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, TAD, Melvins etc.
Many so-called Grunge bands were just punk bands as well, it sounds like it was just a new way to repackage stuff by the marketing departments of record labels for younger kids who were starting to buy cd's.
Exactly.
Additionally, many of those bands formed between 1986 and 1988, well before MTV started highlighting Grunge.
Grunge was definitely more of a location and the way they dressed than any type of sound.
Leaving glam hard rock aside, metal wasn't actually mainstream for very long - as in regular MTV and radio play. There was a wave of more commercially accessible metal in the early 90s: Metallica with the black album, Queensryche with Empire, etc. Still definitively metal elements, but noticeably geared towards seeking a wider audience. Then grunge took off and yeah, I do think it ended that moment in time - in part, because metal participated in its own demise. Metallica puts out Load and Queensryche puts out Promised Land, etc. - a lot of stuff that was chasing some kind of fusion with the alternative / grunge that was taking over.
You didn't even mention why the Napster case even started. It wasn't because Lars and Metallica were greedy like people think, or because they were protecting the future of music. They did it because the demo for their song "I Disappear" off the MI2 soundtrack was getting radio play before the song was even finished. When they found out the demo was found on Napster, that's when they pulled the trigger.
I'm selling London bridge if you're interested 😉😉
This. "I Disappear" got leaked onto the platform by someone before it was even finished and that's how Metallica actually even found out about it. And Lars was right to sue - Napster were making money off of artists' work while those artists weren't getting any payment in return.
Actually, it's not that Spotify doesn't pay the artists, it's that the labels don't pay the artists. Right now Spotify is unable to make a profit because a majority of their revenue goes to rights-holders.
Dio in that same interview you got that clip from says he didn't create it but helped popularise it and spread it in the culture. This is true, most people don't know who Coven is, but Dio is Metal royalty and will always be associated with the Devil horns.
Most people don't know Coven (although their album is excellent!) but I bet they know of The Beatles. Go have a look at John Lennon's hand on the Yellow Submarine album cover...
@@000vanish5 Yeah, but that was the cartoonist that drew the pictures of the Yellow Submarine film. You may also notice that in many cartoons of the 1960-1990 period, many characters had three as opposed to 4 fingers.
We all know Gene invented it. He invented everything, just ask him.
No, Dave Mustaine invented everything@@robertkennedy5414
Neither Dio nor Coven invented that. In the 70s American audiences would give the two finger salute at concerts. I believe it came from Texas football fans as a ward against bad luck. The index and pinky fingers represent goal posts (not the devil).
i especially appreciate the debunking of the 8th myth. as a black metal fan, i always feel the one thing ppl take away from me telling them i listen to metal is ‘that’s a white person genre’ besides other stupid comments like it just being mindless noise & maybe assuming i’m a devil worshipper. metal is for absolutely everyone & that take has always been aggravating to me.
Metal came from rock n roll, which was black music....rock n roll came from blues, which is REALLY black Music. Therefore, Metal Is Black Music. Tell Those Stupid People That!!!
Eh, I understand trying to convince the mainstream that, but the amount of bands especially from countries as Finland, France, Poland, Ukraine & Russia where the largest, most popular black metal acts are mostly ones that are explicitly white supremacist & the other bands that aren’t usually have one or two neo-nazis as members, I don’t think we should downplay that this fact.
I listen to death, black, melodic, I like of the bands, I get the same attitudes, ignore them they are being shallow minded! Ill listen to any style if music and see if I like it?
Heavy "I'm not a racist BUT that's white people music and you should feel bad" energy.
If you get bad energy from it then simply don't listen to it. Some of my favorite bands are not even white and are as heavy as they come
The Metallica Napster thing was not about royalties, Lars consistently said he supported bootlegs of Metallica shows. Metallica was pissed that the demo version of their song "I disappear" appeared on Napster and couldn't take it down. Lars in particular said that was the reason for suing Napster, as the song was unfinished. Literally nowhere did they say it was about royalties, but as you proved, even if they said that, they would be proven right.
The thing with RJD having started metal horns due to his grandmother isn't in the least bit diminished by the fact that Crowley used the horns hand gesture previously. Upon seeing Geezer using the horns, it could've easily reminded Dio of his grandmother using it from years ago and drew his attention to it. Different symbols and gestures recur throughout history and different cultures and take on different meanings. Crowley used it for occult meanings, Dio's grandmother was warding off evil hexes, and down in Austin it signifies support for the Texas Longhorns. Case in point, even though Leonard Nimoy got the Vulcan salute from his rabbi as a boy I'm sure it's appeared throughout history and that just happened to be the origin path that it took. Synchronicities do occur in interesting ways.
It's one of those things appearing in multiple cultures around the world. As you said synchronisity is a truly amazing thing. In some parts of Italy it's a really old tradition and he took it from his grandma as stated by him. He did so as early in Elf and Rainbow(As can be seen in live footage of Rainbow and I remember seeing some pics from elf), before Geezer or whomever, and used it in context it was used in his Italian tradition. Later on in Sabbath he rebranded it as his answer to other gestures of the time, namely Ozzy as he stated. He definitely wasn't the only one of course, everything mentioned in the video is legitimate, but he took the initiative and made it what it is today. Anyone else also could've, but they obviously had no intent to make it their staple... and that is why he gets the credit. Judging it by who did it first is plain stupid since you can just imagine him going on for a walk with his grandma as a 5 year old and throwing or his grandma being shown such a gesture for the first time lol
@@EpicZadrani well, and not only that, but consider the use of black (and sometimes red) leather as the uniform of metal. There's been leather worn in rock music before, but it was Rob Halford, and then by extension Priest, who popularized it.
@@CheshireCatFun Exactly!
It's also used in one scene in the James Bond film 'Thunderball'. The the majority of people point the horn at themselves, I always fond that strange, but it's the way it's been popularized.
Yup, in symbolism, a Symbol can have a hundred meanings, The situation in which it is used and in connection with other symbols define its meaning in the situation.
I don't care what any conspiracy theorists say- Lars CAN keep 4/4 time!
Liar
Mostly ;-)
Lame... Get over this 4th grade bullshit!
I've seen where that literally wasn't the case.
lol its kinda his go to pattern….. like every song
Painkiller should tell you that metal was alive and well in the 90s. You either evolved with popularity or you evolved with metal. Meaning you either turned soft and went with the flow or you got heavier. Judas Priest got heavier.
The Japanese metal scene is insane. Some really unique bands there.
Give us a few names man!
@@komodosp Maximum the Hormone, Lovebites, Waggaki Band, X-Japan, Nemophila, BabyMetal, Band-Maid (more hard rock than metal), Ningen Isu, Asterism. There are tons more.
@@killermonjerodon’t miss the Japanese band called cold rain, saw them play live when I went to see bullet for my valentine, THEY DEFINITELY got a huge amount of new fans that night
Also motherfucking COFFINS
@@komodosp Lucifer, Hellhound
You know what they say, 'A lie can travel around the world and back again while the truth is still sewing patches on to it's battle vest.'
I have something to add to the whole Devil horns matter. I have lived in Italy all of my life and can confirm that that sign is of common use in the country mainly with two meanings:
- a defensive one, used to ward off evil but mainly simply bad luck (the equivalent of "touch wood" for instance). Example: someone says to you: "Oh, you're going on holiday tomorrow, hope all goes well..." and you flash out your horns against the implication that it may not
- an offensive one, implying that someone "wears horns" and is thus a cuckold. Very popular whilst driving when somebody performs some bad manoeuvre and you want to make them know what you think about them...
Actually giving the evil eye is something I've never heard of, but it could belong in a more remote past.
So, basically, Ronnie's story about his granny is absolutely believable being of italian descent. I have no doubt she may have used that sign especially against bad luck. Possibly he took that from Geezer simply because it was already familiar to him, and the rest is history.
The second one we also use here in Portugal....we call that person "Corno" (Horn in Portuguese). Normally is to a person (mainly men) that was cheated on.
@@bananaempijama it's "cornuto" over here, but same thing I guess. Also very popular to insult football referees 🤣
Exactly what I was thinking. I remember seeing this sign used amongst the Roma ("gypsies") in the early 1980s.
I've never had bad luck when touching my wood
I think there may be different views on the horns depending on which way you’re holding them up? Are you looking at the back of your hand or the palm of your hand when doing so?
Dio is love. Dio is life. Long live his memory.
R.I.P. Ronnie James Dio
RIP 🤘
I saw Dio with Black Sabbath at Lebanon Valley Speedway in 1980. Broad daylight no colored lights, bare stage. Ronnie came out and sang Neon Knights and the world went away. It didn’t even notice how short he was !!! Still seems like giant to me.
HOLY DIVER
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"metal heads are scary ooga booga boo" HAD ME DYING loved it!!🤣
I have always felt that heavy metal rock was, from it's evolution in the mid-60s to now, intelligent music that took in influences from interesting places and many of its practitioners were intelligent and articulate musicians.
Maiden songs could teach an entire history class!
Some metal bands are composed of elite musicans with classical training who incorporate elements of classical music into their song writing. Here's an example from my favourite band, a Japanese all female Power/Thrash band. ua-cam.com/video/WBhtqgiXEA4/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Hadesillo
It's like any genre of music, there's a wide variety of bands and styles to choose from. You can have a fine meal that's carefully prepared, or you can have a quick take-out meal to satisfy your hunger. Both can be delicious.
Yet the world music stores music videos and the industry it's self just wants to push pop culture radio friendly music on society. Go into a music store same old stuff Beatles, Zeppelin, The Doors or Metallica etc merchandise on sale when was the last time you ever saw a Motorhead mug on the store shelves. Even MTV or Much Music would cut up the power hour with commercials and fill it with pop music ads. They just don't see they talent in heavy music ever look at Megadeth guitar tab very technical nut to the whom ever its just noise.
@@daviddoyle8956 And that's why you need to go searching for yourself. There is a world of amazing music out there just waiting to be discovered. If you're a fan of hard music, and you want to see something different, check out the numerous Japanese all-female metal bands. They are amazingly talented. Here's a few to check out if you're interested: LOVEBITES, Nemophila, Hanabie.
My first Slayer show. The crowd surges forward and I go down. I am like "oh shit" I gotta get back up. Then some huge fucker pics me up by the shirt collar and gives me a thumbs-up.
When you said "Is black really white?", I thought you were going to continue with "Is the moon just the sun at night?". It's funny when you think Dio popularized the devil horns when touring for the Heaven and Hell album and the Heaven and Hell song is all about not taking things for granted and believing everything you hear.
Lmao I thought he was gonna continue that lyric too!
Great observation...You've impressed a good ol boy who seen sabbath a very long time ago. Keep on rockin n God bless
Well Dio DID bring the Evil Eye Gesture to metal and it was part of a personae he adopted when he joined Sabbath. He NEVER makes the gesture in old Rainbow videos. I think Dio had a Romani/"Gypsy" background
Some grunge bands like Soundgarden, Alice in Chains and Warrior Soul had at least some metal and hard rock influences. I actually think they helped boost and change metal so that it could borrow from other genres.
I think this myth exists because some of the most popular metal bands had their worst albums in the 90s.
Alice In Chains always considered themselves as a metal band. They begrudgingly accepted the “grunge” moniker because it helped propel their careers. Never heard anyone mention Warrior Soul. Pretty amazing band that should’ve been huge.
Warrior Soul were not anything to do with grunge and were never associated with it. I saw them supporting Metallica in 89, they were tipped for big things but never really went any further.
alice is really the only one that i liked. i think i dipped my toe into grunge in the '00 long after the scene was dead, and it didnt last long. they tried to go back to basics but it was too basic. durring the '90s actual i found myself listening to '80s thrash and death metal while most everyone else was hooked on either grunge or hip hop.
Grunge does not say anything about the sound … its not even a clear music style … what have all Sub Pop bands in common in 1991 … grungy sound … thats how grunge was birnnand defined … thats all grunge refers to … its no real music style … from there, grunge was everything the media and industry started to associate with it … most bullshit … useless to
Analyse … metal, no grunge, no alternative … all useless blah blah …
Make a part 2 if you find more myths please this is very entertaining.
I always heard the story as "While Dio didn't invent the devil horns, he popularized it and made it a staple of the metal genre," so the ending wasn't really that shocking.
Dio and the devil horns is like Henry Ford and the automotive. Didn't invent it, just introduced it to a wider group of people.
I thought I remember later in that same interview, Dio saying "So, invented it? No. Popularised it, yes." Or something similar.
I went to a Deftones and Gojira concert recently in DC. It was the most diverse group of people I have ever seen. I met a guy how brought his 12 year daughter who was a Gojira fan to her first concert. I met a 65 year old black guy there. Every race and every age was there, It was beautiful, all of us there to share our love for music.
Deftones mid
@@RedArrow808 What does that mean?
average at best or mediocre@@capt25252525
When you're in a metal concert, financial status, ethnicity, age and whatever gender out there doesn't matter.
Once you're in the pit, you're equal as anyone else. The only rules are that you don't be an a-hole, at a pit, if you fall on the ground you get picked back up. Metal is for everyone
@@capt25252525that means that Jake doesn't like Deftones that much
Regarding the Dio "Devil horns" thing, I mean, Ronnie doing it in Black Sabbath made the hand gesture synonymous with Hard Rock/Heavy Metal. I mean, other bands or artists were doing it before, but it wasn't until Dio did it in Black Sabbath that Metalheads adopted it into the culture of Metal.
You heard the story, I am sure. The devils horns are what Ronnie said his grandmother said was warding off evil. Some sort of Italian thing. You flashed the horns at a person you thought was out to harm you. Not entirely true, in my opinion. Heavy metal was always associated with that evil, horned deity with the pitchfork. Look at how many bands wrote a song about the devil, or that had a tinge of satanic overtones, either in the lyrics, or on the album cover. There are plenty of bands that take their embrace of satanism to the extreme. Look at the black metal scene. I think Ronnie may have used the horns, and dark lyrics, as an album selling gimic. He said he did not believe in God. He was down to earth, though. He was a New York Yankees fan. How down to earth can you get than that?????
@@mylovesongs2429it does have basis in historical fact, hell pope pius ix used it. dio learned it through his heritage, you could just have easily learned it from a book on occultism.
Heavy Metal Myth: My wife DOES like listening to me ramble on for hours about Mastodon, Iron Maiden and any other metal band that comes to mind.
And Gojira with me....Mastodon too of course.....my wife listens to them every day....because she has no choice!😂😂😂
I don't care about your race. If you like metal, we are brothers in arms. Long live metal.
I got into metal music during the pandemic… helped me dealing with difficult emotions as a health worker.
I’m from Chile, and travelled all the way to Graspop, Belgium… and was welcomed in a very awesome way from everybody! The festivals and concerts are safer than many more popular artists right now. I love the metal community ❤
Welcome to the family, from the USA
That's why metalheads are the best. Welcoming, open-minded & genuinely caring for each other cause we are the outsiders. One massive tribe. 🤘
For those who don’t know Coven announced a North American tour last week so y’all can still see them live
Nice!
I just saw them. They opened for Lucifer. Phenomenal show.
@wyattsmetal Absolute ignorance if anyone thinks "metal is just for white people". Bonz from Stuck Mojo is one of my favourite vocalists ever. Then you obviously hve Derrick Green, Lajon Witherspoon, Tobin Abasi. Plus bands the like The Hu. I liked how u showed Jasad from Indonesia. 🤘 Metal is international & we are all one big tribe.
No.4. THANKYOU!!!!! Many metal bands sold more records on the 90s than they did in the 80s. This myth had always pissed me right off. Great video.
yeah just Metallicas black album sold like crazy etc.
@@heikkijhautanen4576 Slayer sold far more albums in the 90s. Pantera exploded in popularity. The idea that glam was the only indicator of metal's health was a preposterous lie invented by self important pop music rags who neither understood nor liked metal and were hoping it would disappear.
@@heikkijhautanen4576 He is right, as a matter of fact Metallica´s 80s´album sold way more in the 90s´ thanks to the explosion of the global phenomenom that was the Black Album AND that explosion brought in the early 90s´Metal to the massev wich sky rocketed the sales of everybody, from Maiden to Dio to Pantera
@@antoniocenteno1483 Facts, right?
Metal concerts are the best! everyone's so cool and almost every mosh pit I was ever in after the show. Everyone would hug each other and thank everyone for having search a good time!
I'm 60 and agree. Screw grunge!
About the moshing rumor. I, after about 15 years of metal concerts and moshing at most of them. I have found people to be wild, but still mindful of what they're doing.
There was a pretty serious pit at a Chiodos show back in 2010. A couple of us had some busted lips and bloody noses. And when a big drop happened, a dude suddenly hit the floor, and his much needed glasses go flying into the crowd. We all stopped. Held our arms out. A formed a circle around him so he was able to get back up. And the guy next to me got handed his glasses and handed them back to him. They were TRASHED. But he put them back on, let out a scream, and we all went right back to it.
We got each other's backs, we don't wanna see anyone seriously hurt. We just wanna flail and dance!
That is too true. Out of all the concerts I have been to (including some bad boys), I can not think of many instances where violence grew beyond play. Though some played it very convincing, they were in control and enjoying themselves and not just making trouble for others.
i remember one time i was moshing to a small pub band, i think i elbowed a guy in the nose and he was bleeding, i followed him in to make sure he was ok. 10 minutes later we were back in the pit.
Good vid man. It's not like I have to say it but, I've been a pro metal guitarist for at least 10 years, im black and I love metal. From the stage to the pit. It's the most diverse music and people. Dimebag is why I play guitar. Just subbed 🤘🏽.
Good video, thanks for mentioning metal bands outside of US. I checked out Bloodywood right away and was impressed. Rock/Metal music isn't dead, it's just not mainstream at the moment. People will always need the outlet of Metal; therefore it will never die.
frankly i prefer it that way. all the publicity of hair metal pretty much consumed the entire subgenre, and destroyed grunge even faster. good thing underground metal carried it forward. otherwise it would have been as dead as disco. it really is unstoppable. pop music is for people who are too lazy to change the station on the radio.
The story that I had heard with the doves was that Ozzy and Sharon went to a meeting with the execs at CBS Records, and at the end of the meeting, they were going to be released out the open window of the conference room. They didn't bring them over to the window to release them, though. They just figured the doves would make their way out through on their own. One dove made it, but the other one hit the closed window and fell on the floor, presumably next to Ozzy. Drunk and high as he was, he thought it was dead already, picked it up and bit the head off it.
I think Dio's story is at least more acceptable than Gene Simmons' claim to starting the horns.
It's an old Sicilian hand gesture, anyway.
Dude....awesome video! Thank you for mentioning Indonesia where heavy metal never died off. I'm Indonesian and have been a metalhead for about 35 years now. I really enjoyed and appreciate this video!
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
It's pretty undergound still though
Alice Cooper and the chicken 🐔 has always been my favorite story. Throw in Frank Zappa and you know it's entertaining. Also the time Alice Cooper meet Elvis Presley is entertaining as well.
I love that story.
For those who don't know it, at a show in Toronto, someone threw a chicken onto the stage during Alice's show. Alice, not knowing it was a real chicken, picked it up and threw it back into the crowd, who proceeded to rip it apart - literally. There's video footage of feathers flying everywhere. Later on, Frank Zappa asked Alice if the story he heard was true. Alice confirmed it, but told Frank he didn't know it was a live chicken. Frank replied, "Well, don't tell anyone else that."
@@robertkennedy5414What complete nonsense! Alice has commented about it in many taped interviews. He was well aware it was a live chicken! This can even be seen in the video! Alice always said that … as stupid city boy he was convinced birds with wings can fly … but throwing it back for it to fly away it ended up in the disabled section of the venue and was turned into KFC. The Zappa bit was also crap … as the papers and news were full of that fail … how was he supposed to ‘not mention it’ … everybody knew. Only difference … most papers exaggerated it … he bit the head of the chicken off killing it himself!
Your humor sets your videos apart from the rest. Thanks for posting!
"Pantera...YEP, YEP HE SAID IT, HE SAID IT!"
Lmao, classic👍
16 years ago I collapsed the entire circle pit at Harpo's in Detroit while Fear Factory was playing Edge Crusher. One of my favorite memories I can still remember.
🤘🤘🤘🤘
The breakdown in that song is still one of the most epic ever
This shattered my reality! More than once! What a fun subject & video. And you said the thing. Now I want to know more. Excellent stuff
Me in my 20's: the Pit rules! The Sidelines👎
Me in my 50's: The Sidelines are fine 👍
Brilliant vid wyatt. Got into metal in 1976 myself. Age 12. Heard symptom of the universe. Changed my life. Metal became my life. Lost a wife over my love. Of metal not her 🤣. The devil's horns section. Number 11. Wow. Great research my metal brother. I've just subscribed. You know you're stuff mate. Keep it up. 👍🤘🤘🤘🤘. Ps
SLAYEEEEEER. 🇬🇧
SLAAAYYYEEERRR
That last word which you wrote saved my life four times.
1.Overdose at 19 age-I somehow heard Tom Araya's voice in my ears(kind of halucination) and woke up from the dead.
2.Gunshoted in chest at 23 age-I spoke in my head lyrics from 'In The Name Of God' thinking about how I never met Kerry King praying that for last wish,survived.
3.Car accident at 30 age-saved by fast reflexes from my arms and legs which I upgraded by playing drums from my teen years(Dave Lombardo was and is an idol)
so I braked on time and suffered minor injuries while car finished in flame nearly I dropped out.
4.Suicide attempt at 38 age-I cut my arterries on both arms at dawn on the hill over the city with perfect wiew for dying because Jeff Hanneman died and personal issues,saved by young couple of goths.
I understand your short story which you wrote-be sure.
Slaaaayeeeerrrrrr!!!🤘💥☠👹
I’ve binged like 6 videos and subscribed after the Pantera reference. You’re a pro at these video essays
You spoke to me directly. I'm 40 or in other words an old metal head. I heard all those and i never believed that Dio invented the metal horns, when i first heard it i was incredulous and had to look some stuff up and was never convinced despite seeing that lots of folks believed it.
This totally fucking rocks! Great video, dude; very well written and paced. Good clips, too. \m/
Heavy metal is definitely not just for pale folk...lol...my introduction to music heavier than Metallica or Slayer was by a guy who was not white. He is mixed- white momma and black dad. But he grew up around mostly white people and got into metal. He sounds like a surfer dude when he talks, probably because he's from Florida (he lives in upstate New York like I do). Without meeting and hanging out with him, I may have never heard bands like Cannibal Corpse or Deicide or GWAR or King Diamond....ironically my last boyfriend I had, who was white, introduced me to hip hop...😁
Funny how the world works, huh? I'm a Creole kid from NEW ORLEANS who's metal, while everyone else is/Was Into That Trendy Mtv Rap Shit.
Sure, but these people are exceptions. You say it yourself "he grew up around mostly white people and got into metal". The question is would he have gotten into metal if he grew up in a black neighborhood? Most likely not.
The zen of screaming really got me thinking differently about intense vocals. Noticed some clips in the video! Awesome stuff mate!
I was expecting to see Rob Halford with one of his notorious kitty t-shirts when you mentioned puppies and kittens. Small bit of trivia: many of stray cat rescuers, fosters and volunteers in Athens Greece are metalheads.
PS. Shira, the oldest of my ten cats has been known to play air drums to SOAD's toxicity with me.
Just stumbled on your channel. Happy I did. I enjoyed this. Thank you.
Dio was a wonderful man. I miss him.
I've had the good fortune of knowing several people in metal bands. And because of them, I've met some more. In every case, they were some of the nicest and smartest people I've ever met! Metal!!! 🤘👍🤙
Love the 70K clips!! My first boat was 2016. Last night of cruise, they have karaoke on top deck. After 3 days of binging & loosing voices at the shows, plenty of us just wanted to wail out on love ballads, rap & pop. My first boat had karaoke for "I Will Always Love You"!!
Another dispelling of metal myths, early this year AUS researchers published psychological studies that indicates metal music may actually be responsible for reducing stress & depression. While not conclusive, it compared stress & depression among 15k participants.
gotta agree, im native in a metal band, tons of natives on all the reservations are huge metalheads, and in oklahoma metal crowd are usually half native and half white
Chuck Billy is that you?
Streaming services killed the biggest source of income, record sales. The music industry and it's less than ethical and unrealistic contract requirements
metal/alt rock clubs were the safest places i frequented growing up and an Aussie moshpit was just full of lunatics having an awesome time but the moment a person fell, many hands raised them up again...
Completely agree !!!!! Same happens in the UK. .. Defo best years of my life in the rock bars and clubs in North East England other than fucking my hearing up now with tinnitus. I genuinely miss the daft laughs and debates on who was the best guitarist/ drummer / singer / band. I get the impression that these days theres an underlying rage with the crowds, not a daft laugh and jumping about. Saw Slayer, Anthrax and all the original metal bands who set the style for today. Felt safe, had fun, got pissed and loved it all !
Cannot agree at all … 40 years of metal gigs and many moshpits were not having any support for fallen fans … injuries and bruises normal … but all in all moderate. For clubs this did not count, they were pretty safe.
My wife's misunderstanding of metal vocals winds me right up.
As a metalhead I agree that metalheads are the nicest folks 🤘
One of the biggest testaments (ha ah) i had was a few months ago, i went with my girlfriend to a metal show. (She's not into metal at all mind you)
I told her i wanted to mosh to my favorite band. She stayed at the back and i went to do my thing 😅
I came back 1 and half hour later and asked if everything was ok, and she said yes, that no one bother her and she felt safe .
And it's true. The majority of metalheads mind their own business, they don't harass and they help if they can.
We also know how to have fun, even at the expense of making fun at ourselves, being goofy and silly. It's kinda wholesome seeing that to be honest. 😊
The part about metal crowds should be told to everyone scared of metal, although I did take a boot to the back of my head watching Sepultura at Bloodstock this year by a rogue crowdsurfer
I think the more popular myth is that “Metallica sued their fans cuz they’re greedy.” THEY NEVER SUED THEIR FANS. They sued Napster. Napster told them they shouldn’t bother because they would never be able to name any specific users who illegally downloaded their songs. They then proved to them that IF THEY WANTED TO, they could find specific users who illegally downloaded their songs.
I heard that Metallica were urged to do it by other bands. Being such a big name they felt they should represent the other up and coming bands who wouldn’t be able to make a living from their music the way Metallica had.
It sure how true this is.
Publishers were the ones going after those using Napster and other services with copyright infringement suits. More than a few articles from the mid to late 2000s about families getting sued because their kids were secretly pirating music and movies in their homes.
Napster was a then-modern version of the same underground tape trading community that gave Metallica their original fan base. It seemed hypocritical to me at the time.
@@jeffreylebowski7459 As Lars himself said, there’s a difference between passing around crappy sounding bootlegs of live performances and demos of a band playing in nightclubs and leaking an exact copy of an artist’s new album or song online before it was even released. Stealing copies of kill em all from record stores is not what tape trading was. Napster was an unprecedented phenomenon that the band felt should be monitored to some degree.
@@trevorganoe748 MP3s were a crappy sounding copy that if you liked it, you went and bought it, if you didn't like it, there was no chance of a sale, if you didn't care, you weren't going to buy it anyway and if you never heard it, no future sales either. Metallica lost both current and future possible fans.
There are a lot of music out there ( of any type ) that is still copyright protected but unavailable as it is "out of print". That music is now dead, no new fans hearing it, all the old fans are dying and the copyright holder is crying that no one will pay them anymore. Back in the day, the only music I downloaded and used where MP3s of unavailable any other way. If I liked it I bought it on CD. I still prefer buying it to streaming as they do endup removed from the streaming service ( And the @#$%ing constant ads, the cost of mobile data and the service itself... Buy 5 albums a year is still cheaper. )
The last time I saw anthrax live I caught a hard elbow in the face, I didn’t really feel it to much and didn’t even realize it drew blood until I got on the subway home and someone asked if I was ok. I’m like yea I’m feeling fine, then she mentions that I have blood all down the side of my face lol 😂
11:30 The Underground in Mesa Arizona, that is my venue of choice, how sick to see it in this video! I am going to check out your band!
Never wander into a mosh pit unwittingly wearing sandals
Chances are you will only go home with one, or potentially barefoot🤣🤣🤣
The dog in the cut off is the spitting image of our dog we losted 2 years ago. She loved metal as.
Rip peeka, gone but never forgotten .
I can’t believe you’ve heard of Pantera that’s so insane dude. Also you just ruined my life with that fun fact about the devil horns, I don’t know what to make of life anymore
I’ll blow your mind even more. Dio’s surname isn’t Dio, it’s Padavona
It's still Dios sign, he made it his
@@proudalbanianjcdenton7129 NOOOOO
@@ilikeguitars3511 True, it’s just kind of crazy that I’d never once heard anyone say it was started by anyone besides him. I’d heard people disprove pretty much all of these besides that one
@@hannahkozlovic1715 I mean technically Italians invented it, dio just incorporated it into his act cause his grandma showed it too him, and that's the only reason it's such a big part of metal.
On May 5, 2000, I was at the "Kabaal Am Gemaal (Hubbub at the Pumping Station)" festival in Wageningen, The Netherlands. There, I saw an elderly couple (in their late 60s, early 70s?) very much enjoying the death metal band, that was performing. That was so awesome to see! And in 2020, at the Steel Panther show in Utrecht, all kinds of people were there; from metalheads to bank managers, young and old, big and small, all kinds of races. You see? That's why metal is the best!
You forgot "Heavy Metal is the devil's music."
FINALLY some love for Coven ❤️ Jinx Dawson is one of my favourite singers of all time
The Pantera line made me choke on my code red.
#9 DEFINITELY applies to hardcore shows, those shows are legit dangerous, because most of the fans are legit into crowd killing shit, while a good majority of metalhead pits consist mainly of just ramming into each other.
Love your comments Wyatt much appreciated for every metal fan it is true yes a lot are so true and false we surely know it but as metal fans who gives a crap for me I come from Galway Ireland have been a metal fan over 30 years and for me the biggest upset I have is when metal bands just went so commercial as like Metallica, Megadeth and Anthrax there albums diluted so much you would not see that happened to Slayer, Exodus, Testament or Forbidden or Death Angel my own other two favourites Iron maiden staying good but had a couple of crap albums at end ,Napster scenario is true butt Metallica have millions made at the end of the day what matters is fans like you and me I am a fan of all types of music and am a drummer as well Dave Lombardo genius double bass kick pedal drummer 👍👍 best wishes Declan 👍
You said it, if it takes no talent then lets see the person saying that do it. Nevermind how much warm up it requires over clean vocals. I always refer people to Lacey Strum's video about it.
The ONLY way you get hurt at a metal concert is if there’s karate in the pit haha! And even if Dio didn’t start the horns, at least Gene fucking Simmons didn’t either!!
Pits are intense, true. My fractured rib can vouch for that xD
However every time I've seen someone going down in the pit several dozens arms reach out to prop the unfortunate. That's my experience :D
Metal horns, never heard them called that. Some people don't realize that its the same sign, with the thumb out, that means I Love You in ASL
I heard a few times that Beavis and Butthead killed the band Winger Also, there's an interview with Lemmy RIP where he answers a question from a kid about Heavy Metal and racism It's a great clip
Going to my first metal concert in a few days - up in the seats. As someone with no metalhead friends, it's reassuring to hear some of those last points.
The Marilyn Manson one is timeless, and it's not unique to him. It somehow spread across every high school all over the world, but the celeb differs from school to school and generation to generation. I've heard a whole bunch: Marc Bolan, Ozzy, Marilyn Manson, Sidney Lee, Alice Cooper... In more recent years, I've heard tales that these days, it's not metal singers or guitarists anymore, but rather gay influencers like Jeffree Star and whatnot.
One of my favorite memories meeting a metal head in the wild was an older dude looking like a biker with patches all over his leather west and a black kilt, looking like he was ready to kill anyone to oppose him... Melted like ice cream when he saw my chihuahua puppy and cried his eyes out when he got permission to hold and pet my puppy, which he told me was the best day he had in a loooong time. Hope to meet the dude again some day!
Thank you for clarifying the issue of the mainstream 90s. Lots of bands released their best stuff then but it just wasn't on mtv or radio. Immortal really got talented and dropped the low-fi black metal pride shit. Death released their inhumanly skilled albums all in the 1990s. Mercyful fate returned and still rocked. The list goes on and personally I enjoy digging deep to find the good stuff. It's rewarding :)
As far as people saying that metal is just screaming that takes no talent...yeah there are people that say that. But from my experience most people aren't rejecting the talent level that it takes to do that, they just simply don't even LIKE any type of screaming or metal music in general really...or if they do like high vocals, they certainly usually do not like THAT type of screaming that you hear in the metal world. They can't relate to that type of aggression. Screaming/shouting/growling in rebellion is not something that "normies" really have ever accepted. That's the real reason why most "normal" people don't like any type of metal, let alone the genres and bands associated with screaming.
I was also like that as a kid. I didn't even care for Halford's highest screams in Priest when I was still new to discovering all the classic metal bands. At that time 24 years ago, I was drawn to metal for the heaviness and chugging riffs aspect of it. It took a good while for me to appreciate the screaming, high vocals, and also the low growling/grunting in extreme genres of metal music. Now I absolutely love it and have almost completely forgot about not really being into it at all originally, all those years ago.
I hate when people say metal is only for white people. Im mexican and ALL I listen to is metal, hell just five minutes ago I listen to infant annihilator.
As someone raised by a metal head from new mexico, and is now a metal head in new mexico, that statement is so untrue its laughable.
@@AnnahCrouse it really is, but hey it's only for white people right?
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I’m not a huge metalhead, but used to go to a few thrash, punk etc gigs with mates back in the day. Always found that even in the most hectic mosh pit, if anybody went down there’d be at least 3 people ready to pick them up again.
Also, Power Metal was massive especially in Europe in the late 90s
This was well made, thought provoking and cool!
The rib removal thing was a myth about Prince in the 80s
Awesome list and fun vid cheers man..What about the Myth that if you play certain metal/rock songs backwards satanic messages can be heard..lol
(Dave Mustaine): "Playing bass is one notch above the kazoo". (bass player Cliff Burton): "Dave, you're out of the band"
Lmfao
Metal is the only genre that gives you a good enough reason to be friends with someone, I see a stranger on the road wearing a t shirt with a band I like?, we are friends
Another band that used the horns in the 1970s was the band Funkadelic (they were also on the heavier side of psych and rock at times too) they said" it was a pass to the mother ship " . Another strange thing - someone them were followers of the satanic cult Process Church of the final judgement . They had some degrimstones quotes on their album liner notes.
Ps check out the song super stoopid, Alice in my fantasies , trash agogo they had some other hand rocking tunes
On the topic of singing, I have huge respect for many metal artist who can do half of what you listed vocally.
I used to think it was something easy, that was until I tried doing it myself and wound up having a nearly torn throat for at least a week solid after. (Worst week of my life btw, couldn't even swallow water without nearly crying)
When these guys do those vocals, you know they are giving it 150%
Just FYI, birds are not real. Hope you don't still believe that crap.
Great video. Speaking intelligently as a metalhead is a great way to introduce new fans to the genfe.
I just bought the sick the dying and the dead
And yesterday I bought youthanasia
I don't think this has anything do with the video I just wanted to tell Wyatt and his fans🤘🏻🤘🏻
I'm a Metal Head and I listen to Big Bands from the 30' to the 50's, opera, jazz and blues!
If it wasn't for ronnie, the metal horns wouldn't be so prominent in metal, even if he didn't do it first, that sign is his. Ronnie is the goat rest in peace
Obviously Dio made it what it is today, and he's definitely not wrong from learning it from his grandmother. That had gesture has been used for years by lots of esoteric and religious groups. I bet the Italian/Sicilian thing comes from the ancient Mediterranean pre-Roman bull cults that were all over that area, and where modern bullfighting comes from.
@@alexanderyaroslavich2703you sir, are smart
The hair metal section is astonishing in its editing and narrative, quashing the myth whilst giving an ideal definition and overview of the movement itself.
I use the horns in almost every selfie I take