An often overlooked aspect of Hitlers aspirations as an artist was that his works were almost exclusively pertaining to architectural designs and drafts.
Yeah and with this and also can say to JJ checked out that movie of April 9th of the invasion of Denmark I can say it was good though in the actual invasion German soldiers weren't using MG-42's yet.
I heard about this problem with the condense of air. In an other documentary they said it woul literally rain inside the hall. BTW, underground highway for the Germania project was build, large tunels are under Berlin closed to the public.
I would say Hiltler and the leaders that came after him would have turned Berlin into a second Rome. As they tried to out do each other. It happened in Rome when a new Emperor came to power. They had to build something in their name so they could point to it and say they built it.
Berlin wouldn't have featured even as the fourth or fifth Rome. It is vastly preceded in magnificence and legacy by Constantinople, Moscow, Saint Petersburg and even Vienna.
The difference here being, Stalin wanted it build for himself. While A.H wanted it built for the state and the people. Stalin was the evil monster, far exceeding the “boogey man” of AH.
@@freckleheckler6311no it would of still served AH. He was to use it to give massive rallies and speeches. Stalins palace was the same it was for party meetings and would of been used as a "political convention center" for rallies. Both buildings would of had the same exact function.
The Congress Hall (Die Kongresshalle) at Neuremberg is the biggest preserved national socialist monumental building and is landmarked. It was planned by the Nuremberg architects Ludwig and Franz Ruff. It was intended to serve as a congress centre for the NSDAP.
I find it interesting that the shot of the interior taken from The Man In The High Castle looks like it was copied from the scene from Dr. Strangelove where they are discussing the Doomsday Device. During the war a resident of Berlin complained to Hitler about the bombing to which Hitler replied that it was all doing to be pulled down anyway.
@@flAMe9610 as reaction to the war against Poland, yes. A country which they guaranteed the independence of. The German embassy was expressly told that Britain would honor its guarantee too, but Hitler thought it was a bluff. Fuck around and find out. In reality, they should've declared war even sooner, when Germany marched into Czechoslovakia illegally, instead of allowing Hitler enough time to build up. It would have avoided many casualties.
@@JannyBesmircher yes Flaws; as in (by definition) "a mark, fault, or other imperfection that mars a substance or object". And the NSDAP has many flaws, but you gotta admit they have style and their planned city is indeed a beautiful design.
If your a fan of fascist architecture, than yes I get your point, one thing I must add however is that at the forefront of this type of architecture is to make people feel tiny and helpless, to only reflect the absolute power of the state above all, to not serve any good practical purposes but rather to convey power. If these megastructures had of been built, it would make the city virtually unliveable, a lot of homes and utility buildings would have been destroyed in the process
@@angryvaultguyBased on how they discovered new elements and created lots of innovations that still shape our modern world I would say the only thing that stopped them from out innovating the world was there capitulation.
I wonder how many projects like this the Nazis had. I heard about turning the Wewelsburg Castle of Paderborn into a similarly ridiculous complex. (I think this is why Return to Castle Wolfenstein and The Old Blood is set in Paderborn.)
They hat plans for a number of Cities. Hitler wanted to make Linz his retirement home. Plus he had plans for Frankfurt, Wien and I believe Köln but I’m not certain of that one.
Pantheon's oculus is shy of 9m. In person it feels grand in size. The Volkshalle's oculus would be 46m!!! Man's desire to be known and known forever, to never die, to live in stone - combined with fascist fantasies of being the most powerful person of the most powerful group in the city at the centre of all the world...
It is odd that the Brandenburg Gate is without the Quadriga at 5:10 (as it was in reality when the movie Fatherland was filmed) while the Reichstag is shown restored to its former appearance. Also in many "Berlin" shots you can clearly see it was filmed in Prague mostly.
Given the aforementioned difficulties with constructing such an enormous dome, could the _Volkshalle_ have been completed *without* the dome as an open-air structure?
It is so frustrating seeing all these video games and movies destroy history by changing the Nazi flag and modifying other things. People need to know what happened, not be sheltered from reality. Rewriting history doesn’t change what happened.
It is featured in the German historical movie Downfall as a proposal including the new capital Germania by Hitler when he tried to build and transfer the capital from Berlin. It also appears in the miniseries The Man in the High Castle when it was built, it served as the headquarters of the High Command and Hitler's residence. In real life, both the capital and the Volkshalle were cancelled and never flourished when Russian forces invaded and occupied Berlin, and was reduced to rubble.
The breathing and the moisture the people bring in is able to form a cloud that doesn’t come down as it’s so high, in normal buildings it stays with us is so I roughly understand it but here the humans would create moisture which would form into clouds like we have in our own atmosphere (itself a dome) - the science behind those would be the same here.
I had a friend who worked at NCR, National Cash Register in the 70s. He was a computer guy when a computer took up an enormous amount of space. It would create rain in the building. Don't ask why, I have no idea.
Another great episode Sir. I visited Berlin in 2012 to skate and run in the marathons. The event expo was at Templehof airport. I’m still annoyed that I walked very close to that huge concrete test structure, but didn’t realise till I got home. 😡😡 Berlin was fantastic and the Berliners were wonderful. #CurryWurst ❤️❤️
I couldn't imagine how the ground would settle for such a massive structure. After all Berlin's soil is a part of a swampland. The structure would need a crazy number of pilings just to support the weight of a massive structure made of stone and concrete. even if the building was somehow built, the maintenance and upkeep would be astronomically expensive and impractical. Cracks from the dome or the base of the structure would need to be constantly repaired just to keep the structure stable and structurally sound. Although the structure would be grandiose in appearance it would be highly impractical to build.
Waiting for the day that I see a Johnny Johnson x Mark Felton Productions collab appear in my notifications, the two most interesting WWII UA-cam channels around.
@@theguybehindyou4762 Yeah that's a thought, the Nazis would all have died breathing that.. It would have been like the War of the World's when the bacteria killed the Martians after they had already won :)
I feel bad for what ever people would've had to maintain these mountains of concrete in such a timeline. The sheer thousands it would've taken to keep that dome clear of bird shit.
You left out that the project was deemed to be completely unfeasible even during the Third Reich, partly because Berlin was built on swamp land and the "Folks Halls" would have slowly sunk into the earth, likely creating a huge stink for whoever was inside the building (poetically appropriate for Hitler's Germany, of course). Hitler charged Speer and others to investigate and find ways to solve the problem, but Speer claimed that after the war he revisited his plans and with Hitler dead, it was as though a veil had been lifted from his eyes and he saw for the first time how completely crazy and impossible these plans really were- he had always known in the back of his mind that this was so, but Hitler just had that hypnotic effect on those in his circle, like a true cult leader.
I’m not sure if it would have even been built to begin with. The reason buildings today aren’t like societies back then is because it’s way too expensive and costly to build. Materials like steel and iron make things cheaper and easier to produce, but building something of that size out of marble at that time period, and even now, would be drastically expensive. Not just in terms of funding, but also in terms of supplies. Most of the world was destroyed by war at that point so many infrastructures used for architecture was compromised. Not to mention all the workers they’d need to find to build something that large. I guess they could use their prisoners of war? But that would mean putting them out into the public which would compromise their positive image that Facism tries to create. And I’m pretty sure the soft German land wouldn’t be able to hold a stone fortress that large anyway without sinking. If it was attempted, it definitely wouldn’t be finished in Hitler’s lifetime where he was already actively dying even during the war and for sure wouldn’t be nearly as grand as he’d want it to be. They would likely try to cut costs anywhere they could, just like how they did during the war, and it would end up being a quarter the size made out of steel and plaster and cement just like everything else they built. It for sure wouldn’t stand the test of time. The reason European building have lasted so long is because they were forced by the lack of technology of cheaper, light materials, to use stone and greatly aged wood. But any building built within the last 100 years isn’t nearly as long lived. And yeah, let’s not even get started on how much of a fire hazard that would be. No exits, no ventilation?
Great post...The TV version ,totally at odds with the book...cheers, Johnny....off to the ancient Roman city of York, Bettys tea rooms and the magnificent Minster...E...
And it was a hemispheric dome. The Pantheon only has a cap of a sphere, but Hitler wanted a complete half. Structurally one of the weakest types of dome. Most of the big masonry domes with large volumes are catenary domes, shaped like a hanging length of chain turned upside down
The thing about domes goes back a long way. I just visited Istanbul and of course when you are there, you visit Hagia Sophia. You enter it and there are some mosaic features. One is of the emperor? Holding the dome of the temple at Jerusalem. The dome at Hagia Sophia is bigger than the dome of the temple. So in a way, he is telling everyone he surpassed King Solomon in his building quest. I think Hitler have this same idea. 😂 Istanbul also have columns transported from conquered lands. Hitler's ideas aren't new. Past emperors and sultans have the idea.
The Eastern Roman emperors actually transplanted everything that was left of the really important classical pagan monuments of Greece to Constantinople. While the roman Empire by that time was christian, at least the emperors still appreciated the classical art, so in the early middle ages Constantinople was some sort of museum of the past. Most statues and monuments woud eventually be destroyed in 1204 by the Crusaders or taken by them (like the famous venice quadriga) or in 1453. A very few ones like the snake column are still there.
@@marcobelli6856the reason Byzantium was weak enough to fall to Turks was due to the Crusaders being traitorous D bags who sacked the city because fighting the Muslims was harder than looting alies. The pope and Church is as responsible for the fall of eastren Rome as any sultan
Interestingly, Soviet production of war materials and weapons was about the same as Japan's. Soviet production was a miracle and key to victory. Japan never had a chance.
Germany were well aware that they would not win a war of attrition. That was the whole point of blitzkrieg. End the war quickly before they would be outproduced by the combined force of America, Britain and the Soviet Union. You say they had "no chance", but they did... They just had to be faster in their conquests. One major reason for the Axis loss is how extremely incompetent Italy was, Germany always had to fight their battles for them in North Africa and Greece. This delayed Operation Barbarossa by 4 weeks and meant Germany had to fight a 3-fronts war. If Operation Barbarossa had not been delayed by 4 weeks Germany at least would have taken Moscow and that certainly would have been a crushing morale blow to the USSR.
I guess because of the dramatic and total end of Nazi Germany gives rise to hypothesis whereas failed plans of other regimes which fizzled out is more of a yeah well
Wolfenstein: The New Order+The Old Blood may be great alt-universe games in their own right, but darn shame of is that we don't seem to have done much damage against the Nazi world empire, especially since we don't even blow up this sorry dome let alone encounter Hitler in a trivial yet cathartic fashion there. And the worst part, I doubt MachineGames would have another quality Wolfenstein title due to them seeming to jump the shark with The New Colossus and fecking Youngblood... well, here's to hoping their promised Wolfenstein III surprisingly redeems right after their planned Indiana Jones game is done and out.
@@Shinzon23 Too short, too hard, the change in certain weapons and gear from the previous game feels artificial, almost all new characters are either unmemorable or are way too unsympathetic (Sigrun Engel is a saving grace, however), the tone varies way too badly optimistic on the Robert Rodriguez's Spy Kids/The Book of Boba Fett side of things, retcons are way too numerous especially with how B.J.'s father is suddenly displayed, the DLCs aren't on par with TOB, TNO's emphasis on B.J. being on borrowed time is woefully ignored (complete with the anthologized chance to awesomely replace him with his beloved Anya and his allies Fergus/Wyatt, Caroline, Bombate and even Max), and the ending feels extremely unfinished and ultimately unfulfilled as of this writing... also, that screamo iteration of "We're Not Gonna Take It" in the credits is honestly cringe and out-of-place. Even I think Doom 2016 and Eternal are far better distant sequel spin-offs than that overadored slop.
Very interesting, but the *Adolf* in Adolf Hitler should be pronounced _Ah_ dolf (the 'Ah' rhyming with 'far' ) - not with the 'A' rhyming with 'way'..
Old zeppelins hangers would even get there own weather inside, I visited one in Oregon and it would rain a little bit each morning due to the moisture, imagine giving a speech in there only for everyone to get soaked 😂
It doesn't claim to be unbiased. Every sane person should be inherently biased against the Nazis anyway. Unless you're a Nazi sympathiser, of course...
@@SanctusPaulus1962You're right, but beautiful neoclassical grandiose buildings that weren't even built shouldn't be ridiculed because they were designed by nazis.
Critics of so-called Fascist architecture often complain that the goal of this type of architecture is "to make people feel tiny and helpless, to only reflect the absolute power of the state above all, to not serve any good practical purposes but rather to convey power." In this regard, there are two things to be said. 1) Fascist architecture is a term that should be applied only to those designs developed in Italy under Mussolini. It is very different from its German equivalent, and it includes buildings derived from classical monuments, but also others which are pure examples of Modernism. It's worth pointing out that the style of architecture developed in Nazi Germany was known in its time as "Neue Deutsche Baukunst". 2) If you want a prime example of Fascist architecture designed to convey the power of the State and make the individual feel tiny while showing a complete lack of originality because the entire city is essentially a pastiche, look no further than Washington, D.C.
@@spencerjohnson7776 Hmmm... a truly free people, capable of self-governance, would have no Supreme Court, no Congress and no President. Laws would be written in their hearts and they themselves would enforce them. IMHO, democracy is a swindle, and a free-people capable of governing itself is a utopia, since humans are no angels.
@@imperialhonorguard1483 No way. Brutalism is derived from Modernism, while "Fascist architecture" (or Neue Deutsche Baukunst, as it's properly called) is derived from the Neoclassical style.
@@A.Hunter279>democracy is a swindle What? Mass enslavement, torture, forced work camps, genocide, conquest, and millions lying dead in the aftermath is good? But personal freedom, political independence, right to bear arms, speak freely, and the idealism of Democracy are bad? You are a twisted and immoral puppet.
@@yudodis Yeah. Would rather live in a world akin to the golden ending of Titanic: Adventure Out of Time at times... a world where WW1 and the October Revolution were successfully prevented, alongside the serendipitous opportunity of actually making Hitler a famously friendly and happily fortunate painter is one tempting worldline to go along to. (By the way, your reply seems to be nowhere to be found.)
i understand moving some works of art to the Ruhmeshalle but why Nelsons Column? i feel like that would have no culturual value outside of England. why move it?
It had significant symbolic value The column signifies both Britain’s naval power to control the world oceans as Britain had the worlds biggest navy and Britain’s status as a island protected by the sea. The column now in German possession would signify the German navy now rules the world’s oceans and despite that Britain defeated both the Spain invasion fleet and stoped napoleons invasion its status as a island would would no longer keep it safe.
And I was hoping you showed a clip from Strike Witches: Road to Berlin, as it was shown there as well (Together with some other part of the "future Berlin" model
The plans were never acted upon due to the war. The cost associated with building the dome would have been a problem although all expenses would have been paid from reparations from the countries that surrendered to Germany.
@@sergiolandz6056Why the fuck would you take out loans to build an unnecessary bigger thing of a thing you already have when you can put that effort into making more tanks planes and guns? Smh Nazis really aren’t sending their brightest
Speer was a very smart man, I think he knew very well right from the start that these silly vanity projects were never ever going to happen, he just thought this was his job, making crazy old hitler happy seeing monuments on paper that would never see a single brick laid down on a foundation.
You couldn't be more wrong all these monuments and buildings would be possible they also made a test construction to test the weight for the volkshalle and its still standing today and historians also agree that it would be possible at that time
I once heard a podcast that said H was influenced to have super weapons and such by a fictional character he admired as a youth. I have not been able to find confirmation in other sources. Anyone familiar with this?
@@MM22966 It was a few years ago. They said the book series was Hitler's favorite as a boy and the character used a special gun that was super effective. They speculated Hitler thought this influenced his pursuit of special super weapons, V1, V2, jets, super guns, tanks... You get the idea. I thought it was an interesting angle to explain some of his motivations in his obsessions. I'll poke around some more to see if I can dig up specifics.
@@EDKguy That's odd. It sounds like pulp scifi, but that would have been around the 1900s, which is earlier than I thought its heyday was. EDIT: I did some quick checking, and it started around that time period! Neat! I wonder what story it was? (I take the "influence" part with a large grain of salt but it is not something I had heard before)
Would just be easier for them to move capital from Berlin to someplace else and build from nothing, I wonder if that is what they would have done when faced with the issues of Berlin's climate.
anytime this concept is discussed the only thing anyone can talk is smack about it, but in reality if this existed it would have been one of the most impressive and awe inspiring works of human endeavour to exist. if the eiffel tower, big ben, the statue of liberty or the red square is tourist worthy, had this existed it would have dwarfed them. it truly was an impressive concept that never got to be implemented for obvious reasons.
Hitler did not distinguish fact from fiction. The guy lived in his own fantasy. Deep down he had the mind of a child, only his toys and games were the army, architecture and the German people. This building looks more like the delirium of an 8-year-old child.
Those concrete test loads had already sunk enough during the war to make it clear that this project could never work. The building would have started to sag unevenly and cracks would develop, a fairly serious issue for any arch, who knows if they could have even built it fast enough to get to the dome before it became unfeasible. In a way it's a pretty funny illustration of how fascist megalomania would always collide with reality, especially given their rejection of most modern science.
You talk nonsense. “Rejection of most modern science” 😝 You do realise that until the war, German people were considered as some of the best educated people in the world. After the war, Russia and the US scrambled to “take” as many of the German top scientists to continue their work on rocket propulsion and bringing us into the atomic age. You are blinded by your indoctrination into Antifa. You should look into the origins of your group, but I wouldn’t count on you doing that.
An often overlooked aspect of Hitlers aspirations as an artist was that his works were almost exclusively pertaining to architectural designs and drafts.
@@Apelles42069It is indeed ironic
@@Apelles42069 who also took an ancient asian symbol of good fortune and just mirrored it for his logo
If Hitler did his art say, while assassin's Creed was made, he would have been the main artist for the architecture.
@@repletereplete8002 The swastika is not an asian symbol. Its been in use worldwide for thousands of years,
Yeah and with this and also can say to JJ checked out that movie of April 9th of the invasion of Denmark I can say it was good though in the actual invasion German soldiers weren't using MG-42's yet.
I think that it’s interesting that the building would’ve created its own weather.
This is true, as the US found out when we built hangers for blimps. About the same size...😮
fact
@@User_Un_Friendly more like condensation
I visited the VAB at Kennedy Space Centre and the tour guide told us a similar thing happens there and fog like clouds can form.
@@User_Un_Friendly And the Vehicle Assembly Building down in Florida.
I heard about this problem with the condense of air. In an other documentary they said it woul literally rain inside the hall. BTW, underground highway for the Germania project was build, large tunels are under Berlin closed to the public.
Rain is absolutely hyperbole. A bad drip drip drip or 'sweat' on the walls? More plausible.
Large tunnels like under Washington DC🥴
@@oddballsokExcept the German tunnels weren't meant for anything nefarious
@@oddballsokElon Musk & Hitler partnership confirmed 💀💀💀💀
Sounds like what the new little Nazis in Gaza did
I would say Hiltler and the leaders that came after him would have turned Berlin into a second Rome. As they tried to out do each other. It happened in Rome when a new Emperor came to power. They had to build something in their name so they could point to it and say they built it.
Yeah, Hitler definitely has the god complex in common with many Roman Emperors
@@John14-6...Lol. No he didn't.
Berlin wouldn't have featured even as the fourth or fifth Rome. It is vastly preceded in magnificence and legacy by Constantinople, Moscow, Saint Petersburg and even Vienna.
@@OltrePodcast_Official Actually, It would've far exceeded the cities you mentioned.
@@lucasgrey9794how would a bankrupt state build a city to surpass any of those cities lol
I have a thing for grandiose unbuilt architecture, Stalin's Palace of the Soviets being another good example.
Very stunning indeed
The difference here being, Stalin wanted it build for himself. While A.H wanted it built for the state and the people. Stalin was the evil monster, far exceeding the “boogey man” of AH.
@@freckleheckler6311no it would of still served AH. He was to use it to give massive rallies and speeches. Stalins palace was the same it was for party meetings and would of been used as a "political convention center" for rallies. Both buildings would of had the same exact function.
@@kaijudude_wrong
@@buckfizzard291 nope. I was correct
The Congress Hall (Die Kongresshalle) at Neuremberg is the biggest preserved national socialist monumental building and is landmarked. It was planned by the Nuremberg architects Ludwig and Franz Ruff. It was intended to serve as a congress centre for the NSDAP.
I visited it years ago. Largely finished on the outside but unfinished inside. It gives you a sense of the immense scale they were trying to achieve.
A cousin of mine visited it once and told me has was at a loss for words at the sheer size of it
@@TheFirefox Seems they were compensating for something.
@@concept5631nah they just wanted cool architecture
I find it interesting that the shot of the interior taken from The Man In The High Castle looks like it was copied from the scene from Dr. Strangelove where they are discussing the Doomsday Device.
During the war a resident of Berlin complained to Hitler about the bombing to which Hitler replied that it was all doing to be pulled down anyway.
Feels bad. Churchill had Berlin bombed seven times before hitler was forced to respond in kind due to backlash.
@@screwstatists7324more like Churchditch amirite
@@screwstatists7324shouldn't have declared war then.
@@briennethemaid Britain declared war on Germany not the other way around.
@@flAMe9610 as reaction to the war against Poland, yes. A country which they guaranteed the independence of. The German embassy was expressly told that Britain would honor its guarantee too, but Hitler thought it was a bluff. Fuck around and find out.
In reality, they should've declared war even sooner, when Germany marched into Czechoslovakia illegally, instead of allowing Hitler enough time to build up. It would have avoided many casualties.
Despite all their flaws you've gotta admit the design of Germania is quite beautiful.
Flaws?
@@JannyBesmircher yes Flaws; as in (by definition) "a mark, fault, or other imperfection that mars a substance or object". And the NSDAP has many flaws, but you gotta admit they have style and their planned city is indeed a beautiful design.
But also very impractical no room for modern improvement and advancement
If your a fan of fascist architecture, than yes I get your point, one thing I must add however is that at the forefront of this type of architecture is to make people feel tiny and helpless, to only reflect the absolute power of the state above all, to not serve any good practical purposes but rather to convey power.
If these megastructures had of been built, it would make the city virtually unliveable, a lot of homes and utility buildings would have been destroyed in the process
@@angryvaultguyBased on how they discovered new elements and created lots of innovations that still shape our modern world I would say the only thing that stopped them from out innovating the world was there capitulation.
Speer said it was so heavy that the ground could not hold it.
Source?
@@Arkturius History channel
@@orlandonostagiafever1964 lol. Ok, then it’s a lie
@@Arkturius well maybe he thought that thing was so big .
The Volks hall
I wonder how many projects like this the Nazis had. I heard about turning the Wewelsburg Castle of Paderborn into a similarly ridiculous complex. (I think this is why Return to Castle Wolfenstein and The Old Blood is set in Paderborn.)
I have a book that shows what the complex around Wewelsburg would be like; pretty impressive. It would be the center of the SS religion.
They hat plans for a number of Cities. Hitler wanted to make Linz his retirement home. Plus he had plans for Frankfurt, Wien and I believe Köln but I’m not certain of that one.
The "Nationalsocialists" not the "Nazis". That is a term made uo by random people. It makes you sound highly unprofessionell.
_"...concrete plans with a failed artist."_
Your puns are definitely improving, Johnny!
Stupid point really.
@@hyperboreen4854 Much like the one on your head.
@@Great_Sandwich Cool story bro
@@hyperboreen4854 Wasn't a story, bro. Your comeback was sad. You got pwned. Cope and seethe more. I like it.
@@Great_Sandwich Ok bro, you sound very smart.
Imagine wargaming on that table.
“Never make concrete plans with a failed artist” thats a bar 🔥
Have you ever seen any of his paintings?
Pantheon's oculus is shy of 9m. In person it feels grand in size. The Volkshalle's oculus would be 46m!!!
Man's desire to be known and known forever, to never die, to live in stone - combined with fascist fantasies of being the most powerful person of the most powerful group in the city at the centre of all the world...
It is odd that the Brandenburg Gate is without the Quadriga at 5:10 (as it was in reality when the movie Fatherland was filmed) while the Reichstag is shown restored to its former appearance. Also in many "Berlin" shots you can clearly see it was filmed in Prague mostly.
Those Czechs give good deals for location. Plus I think the Germans would have freaked if MITHC told them they wanted to shoot it in Berlin.
Given the aforementioned difficulties with constructing such an enormous dome, could the _Volkshalle_ have been completed *without* the dome as an open-air structure?
So a coliseum?
It is so frustrating seeing all these video games and movies destroy history by changing the Nazi flag and modifying other things. People need to know what happened, not be sheltered from reality. Rewriting history doesn’t change what happened.
Man shut up
I heard Its 100% banned in all film, tv and games in germany.
Probably others do it in games because it has a younger audience.
They have to cover it all up. Or people may question their narrative.
@@armondtanz not anymore. The law has been revised in 2018 and games are no longer required to censor Nazi symbols in Germany.
@@FrostyShadowYT I remember the wolfenstein controversy, but that was a while back.
It is featured in the German historical movie Downfall as a proposal including the new capital Germania by Hitler when he tried to build and transfer the capital from Berlin. It also appears in the miniseries The Man in the High Castle when it was built, it served as the headquarters of the High Command and Hitler's residence. In real life, both the capital and the Volkshalle were cancelled and never flourished when Russian forces invaded and occupied Berlin, and was reduced to rubble.
I want to know more about this indoor weather phenomenon
As do I.
Here's an example of the phenomenon.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodyear_Airdock
The breathing and the moisture the people bring in is able to form a cloud that doesn’t come down as it’s so high, in normal buildings it stays with us is so I roughly understand it but here the humans would create moisture which would form into clouds like we have in our own atmosphere (itself a dome) - the science behind those would be the same here.
5:10 " never make concrete plans with a failed artist"
It has always reminded me of John Martin's engraving: "Satan Presiding at the Infernal Council"
I had a friend who worked at NCR, National Cash Register in the 70s. He was a computer guy when a computer took up an enormous amount of space. It would create rain in the building. Don't ask why, I have no idea.
Another great episode Sir. I visited Berlin in 2012 to skate and run in the marathons. The event expo was at Templehof airport. I’m still annoyed that I walked very close to that huge concrete test structure, but didn’t realise till I got home. 😡😡
Berlin was fantastic and the Berliners were wonderful. #CurryWurst ❤️❤️
There used to be a Currywurst Museum. My wife and I visited it years ago and it was fun. Sadly, it’s since closed.
Its pretty bland and boring right now. Most of historic buildings were destroyed in war and it was rebuilt as cheaply as possible.
It feels wrong to want to see this building in real life, obviously without the swastikas and that, but imagine that building being used today
Getting scared by a building... congrats.
It should be done in Unreal engine
Without them?? Tf
@@skdKitsuneIf you know the history, then you'd understand the fear.
@@SirBolsón fearing architecture, wow
Was just waiting for the Wolfenstein scene
As usual, a "Like" for the pun at the end.
I owed ya one!
I couldn't imagine how the ground would settle for such a massive structure. After all Berlin's soil is a part of a swampland. The structure would need a crazy number of pilings just to support the weight of a massive structure made of stone and concrete. even if the building was somehow built, the maintenance and upkeep would be astronomically expensive and impractical. Cracks from the dome or the base of the structure would need to be constantly repaired just to keep the structure stable and structurally sound. Although the structure would be grandiose in appearance it would be highly impractical to build.
0:03 Why did that Hitler painting look like Lcpl Jack Jones from the "Dads Army" series ?! Don't Panic , Don't panic.
Waiting for the day that I see a Johnny Johnson x Mark Felton Productions collab appear in my notifications, the two most interesting WWII UA-cam channels around.
"it would be a hall with nazie fog" nailed it.
Apparently the condensed breath of a packed audience in the dome would have fallen as rain inside it according to a documentary I once saw.
Imagine the mold
@@theguybehindyou4762 Yeah that's a thought, the Nazis would all have died breathing that.. It would have been like the War of the World's when the bacteria killed the Martians after they had already won :)
I feel bad for what ever people would've had to maintain these mountains of concrete in such a timeline.
The sheer thousands it would've taken to keep that dome clear of bird shit.
You left out that the project was deemed to be completely unfeasible even during the Third Reich, partly because Berlin was built on swamp land and the "Folks Halls" would have slowly sunk into the earth, likely creating a huge stink for whoever was inside the building (poetically appropriate for Hitler's Germany, of course).
Hitler charged Speer and others to investigate and find ways to solve the problem, but Speer claimed that after the war he revisited his plans and with Hitler dead, it was as though a veil had been lifted from his eyes and he saw for the first time how completely crazy and impossible these plans really were- he had always known in the back of his mind that this was so, but Hitler just had that hypnotic effect on those in his circle, like a true cult leader.
He talked about that at the end...
I’m not sure if it would have even been built to begin with.
The reason buildings today aren’t like societies back then is because it’s way too expensive and costly to build. Materials like steel and iron make things cheaper and easier to produce, but building something of that size out of marble at that time period, and even now, would be drastically expensive. Not just in terms of funding, but also in terms of supplies. Most of the world was destroyed by war at that point so many infrastructures used for architecture was compromised. Not to mention all the workers they’d need to find to build something that large. I guess they could use their prisoners of war? But that would mean putting them out into the public which would compromise their positive image that Facism tries to create. And I’m pretty sure the soft German land wouldn’t be able to hold a stone fortress that large anyway without sinking.
If it was attempted, it definitely wouldn’t be finished in Hitler’s lifetime where he was already actively dying even during the war and for sure wouldn’t be nearly as grand as he’d want it to be. They would likely try to cut costs anywhere they could, just like how they did during the war, and it would end up being a quarter the size made out of steel and plaster and cement just like everything else they built. It for sure wouldn’t stand the test of time.
The reason European building have lasted so long is because they were forced by the lack of technology of cheaper, light materials, to use stone and greatly aged wood. But any building built within the last 100 years isn’t nearly as long lived.
And yeah, let’s not even get started on how much of a fire hazard that would be. No exits, no ventilation?
Great post...The TV version ,totally at odds with the book...cheers, Johnny....off to the ancient Roman city of York, Bettys tea rooms and the magnificent Minster...E...
I love your video there nice
And it was a hemispheric dome. The Pantheon only has a cap of a sphere, but Hitler wanted a complete half. Structurally one of the weakest types of dome. Most of the big masonry domes with large volumes are catenary domes, shaped like a hanging length of chain turned upside down
big building in neu berlin??
They said had it been built, it would have been so big that it would have had its own internal weather and would have required massive ventilation.
The thing about domes goes back a long way. I just visited Istanbul and of course when you are there, you visit Hagia Sophia. You enter it and there are some mosaic features. One is of the emperor? Holding the dome of the temple at Jerusalem. The dome at Hagia Sophia is bigger than the dome of the temple. So in a way, he is telling everyone he surpassed King Solomon in his building quest. I think Hitler have this same idea. 😂 Istanbul also have columns transported from conquered lands. Hitler's ideas aren't new. Past emperors and sultans have the idea.
The Eastern Roman emperors actually transplanted everything that was left of the really important classical pagan monuments of Greece to Constantinople. While the roman Empire by that time was christian, at least the emperors still appreciated the classical art, so in the early middle ages Constantinople was some sort of museum of the past. Most statues and monuments woud eventually be destroyed in 1204 by the Crusaders or taken by them (like the famous venice quadriga) or in 1453. A very few ones like the snake column are still there.
Hagia Sophia wasn’t built by sultans for sure Stolen and dissacreted by Sultans maybe
@@marcobelli6856the reason Byzantium was weak enough to fall to Turks was due to the Crusaders being traitorous D bags who sacked the city because fighting the Muslims was harder than looting alies.
The pope and Church is as responsible for the fall of eastren Rome as any sultan
@@JGCR59 Thank you this is a historical fact that needs to become more well known
putting the leader’s residence, offices, and war room in one place seems like a really bad idea
To put it in perspective..ONE American city ( Pittsburgh ) produced more steel than the entire Axis powers combined. They had no chance.
Interestingly, Soviet production of war materials and weapons was about the same as Japan's. Soviet production was a miracle and key to victory. Japan never had a chance.
So uh... why did the US go ahead and outsource its manufacturing? They just figured "Oh, that world war business could never happen again."?
@@Alias3141 idk if you meant this as a joke but unironically yes that is the case for a lot of strategically important industries in america
@@VictorMenace well, at least everyone involved got to live a lavish life by essentially selling their kids' security out from under them. Very cool.
Germany were well aware that they would not win a war of attrition. That was the whole point of blitzkrieg. End the war quickly before they would be outproduced by the combined force of America, Britain and the Soviet Union.
You say they had "no chance", but they did... They just had to be faster in their conquests. One major reason for the Axis loss is how extremely incompetent Italy was, Germany always had to fight their battles for them in North Africa and Greece. This delayed Operation Barbarossa by 4 weeks and meant Germany had to fight a 3-fronts war. If Operation Barbarossa had not been delayed by 4 weeks Germany at least would have taken Moscow and that certainly would have been a crushing morale blow to the USSR.
If only the snobs in the Vienna Academy hadn’t turned him down.
Now you have to do a video on the Palace of the Soviets
I think it would make a good indoor baseball stadium for somewhere with bad weather
As a german I cant take the Name "Volkshalle" seriously. It sounds like a Bierzelt ("Beer-Tent" ).
That test foundation section continues to slowly sink into the ground.
You should do a video on Stalins unbuilt buildings like the Palace of the Soviets.
Interesting that crazy dictators always planned to build the dumbest and most expensive shit in history.
@@martinvyslouzil2163Yeah, and now thanks to our democratically elected leaders we have soulless, ugly, grey cheaply made buildings.
I guess because of the dramatic and total end of Nazi Germany gives rise to hypothesis whereas failed plans of other regimes which fizzled out is more of a yeah well
Was that Brock’s monument in queenston at the beginning of?
Big building in Neu Berlin?!?!
YO SPEER!!! 🇩🇪 🇩🇪 🇩🇪 🇩🇪
Its like the senate building from star wars.
Thanks for the reminder Johnny!
Wolfenstein: The New Order+The Old Blood may be great alt-universe games in their own right, but darn shame of is that we don't seem to have done much damage against the Nazi world empire, especially since we don't even blow up this sorry dome let alone encounter Hitler in a trivial yet cathartic fashion there.
And the worst part, I doubt MachineGames would have another quality Wolfenstein title due to them seeming to jump the shark with The New Colossus and fecking Youngblood... well, here's to hoping their promised Wolfenstein III surprisingly redeems right after their planned Indiana Jones game is done and out.
What's wrong with new colossus?
@@Shinzon23 Too short, too hard, the change in certain weapons and gear from the previous game feels artificial, almost all new characters are either unmemorable or are way too unsympathetic (Sigrun Engel is a saving grace, however), the tone varies way too badly optimistic on the Robert Rodriguez's Spy Kids/The Book of Boba Fett side of things, retcons are way too numerous especially with how B.J.'s father is suddenly displayed, the DLCs aren't on par with TOB, TNO's emphasis on B.J. being on borrowed time is woefully ignored (complete with the anthologized chance to awesomely replace him with his beloved Anya and his allies Fergus/Wyatt, Caroline, Bombate and even Max), and the ending feels extremely unfinished and ultimately unfulfilled as of this writing... also, that screamo iteration of "We're Not Gonna Take It" in the credits is honestly cringe and out-of-place.
Even I think Doom 2016 and Eternal are far better distant sequel spin-offs than that overadored slop.
Played through the original Wolfenstein 3D awhile back. Still one of my favorites!
@@Stonewielder It has its moments, but in the end, Doom onwards beats it by a long mile. Even Return to Castle Wolfenstein is easily worth replaying.
@@michaelandreipalon359 It's certainly a nostalgia pick.
Guy was like "What if a stadium was a government building?" And then he cooked
Very interesting, but the *Adolf* in Adolf Hitler should be pronounced _Ah_ dolf (the 'Ah' rhyming with 'far' ) - not with the 'A' rhyming with 'way'..
"You gotta get yourself some MARBLE COLUMNS!"
-Mike's Marbleopolis 2941 Central Avenue, Lynbrook
Huge spherical structure? Definitely compensating for having only one ball.
You may have 2, and done nothing with them.
Actually, he had three balls
Old zeppelins hangers would even get there own weather inside, I visited one in Oregon and it would rain a little bit each morning due to the moisture, imagine giving a speech in there only for everyone to get soaked 😂
He was definitely compensating for something… big world-spanning country, biggest gun ever made, big planes, big tanks, big domes…
good one ukraine flag
@@masteryoda988 Said the fan of the world’s largest country that wants more land
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The one ball
@@badpiggies988 988vs988?
4:08 Nazi Germany just like Atlas did, thought of themselves as the ones carrying the world into the future.
That's what the symbolism was
What a completely unbiased video.
It doesn't claim to be unbiased. Every sane person should be inherently biased against the Nazis anyway. Unless you're a Nazi sympathiser, of course...
Is this comment supposed to be sarcastic
@@SanctusPaulus1962You're right, but beautiful neoclassical grandiose buildings that weren't even built shouldn't be ridiculed because they were designed by nazis.
@@___E I know. I don't disagree with you. I like the look of neoclassical architecture and also the many buildings that Albert Speer designed
Wow, that postcard painting business escalated quickly.
Tno reference???
bro's real conquest was getting back at his art teachers and stealing, all art pieces..
Critics of so-called Fascist architecture often complain that the goal of this type of architecture is "to make people feel tiny and helpless, to only reflect the absolute power of the state above all, to not serve any good practical purposes but rather to convey power." In this regard, there are two things to be said.
1) Fascist architecture is a term that should be applied only to those designs developed in Italy under Mussolini. It is very different from its German equivalent, and it includes buildings derived from classical monuments, but also others which are pure examples of Modernism. It's worth pointing out that the style of architecture developed in Nazi Germany was known in its time as "Neue Deutsche Baukunst".
2) If you want a prime example of Fascist architecture designed to convey the power of the State and make the individual feel tiny while showing a complete lack of originality because the entire city is essentially a pastiche, look no further than Washington, D.C.
The public architecture of a truly free people would be undersized and unimpressive.
@@spencerjohnson7776 Hmmm... a truly free people, capable of self-governance, would have no Supreme Court, no Congress and no President. Laws would be written in their hearts and they themselves would enforce them. IMHO, democracy is a swindle, and a free-people capable of governing itself is a utopia, since humans are no angels.
@@imperialhonorguard1483 No way. Brutalism is derived from Modernism, while "Fascist architecture" (or Neue Deutsche Baukunst, as it's properly called) is derived from the Neoclassical style.
@@A.Hunter279>democracy is a swindle
What?
Mass enslavement, torture, forced work camps, genocide, conquest, and millions lying dead in the aftermath is good?
But personal freedom, political independence, right to bear arms, speak freely, and the idealism of Democracy are bad?
You are a twisted and immoral puppet.
Ignore the Nazi stuff, the Architecture is absolutely stunning. Speer was definitely talented, that's for sure.
I bet the Germania the volksshalle inspired George Lucas to make corusant famous building like the galactic senate Jedi temple in star wars
You sure that wasn't inspired by the Pantheon which the Roman Senate did use during the Imperial period?
@@hedgehog3180 I'm am aware about it
Fact the dome would have been so big that it would have had its own atmosphere
A dome that large is impossible
ok american
It actually isn't
"Rest of my day?" For all you know, my day just began.
Luckily the Thunder Dome was never built
In our world. Others aren't so fortunate.
@michaelandreipalon359 at times, our timeline doesn't feel so fortunate.
@@yudodis Yeah. Would rather live in a world akin to the golden ending of Titanic: Adventure Out of Time at times... a world where WW1 and the October Revolution were successfully prevented, alongside the serendipitous opportunity of actually making Hitler a famously friendly and happily fortunate painter is one tempting worldline to go along to.
(By the way, your reply seems to be nowhere to be found.)
@michaelandreipalon359 ...There are no other worlds.
@@AdamantLightLP Will easily beg to differ.
i understand moving some works of art to the Ruhmeshalle but why Nelsons Column? i feel like that would have no culturual value outside of England. why move it?
Because the Nazis weren't consistent in any way and mostly made their decisions based on what made their dick feel big.
Because Nelson.
It had significant symbolic value
The column signifies both Britain’s naval power to control the world oceans as Britain had the worlds biggest navy and Britain’s status as a island protected by the sea. The column now in German possession would signify the German navy now rules the world’s oceans and despite that Britain defeated both the Spain invasion fleet and stoped napoleons invasion its status as a island would would no longer keep it safe.
No more brother wars
Shut up
this dome is impossible to build even today, from structural aspect
And I was hoping you showed a clip from Strike Witches: Road to Berlin, as it was shown there as well (Together with some other part of the "future Berlin" model
Lmao that last sentence was a kicker!
"A Nazi fog" - great expression. From Niebelungen to Nebelungen.
The plans were never acted upon due to the war. The cost associated with building the dome would have been a problem although all expenses would have been paid from reparations from the countries that surrendered to Germany.
no you can build nice things when you have loans with no usury attached on it.
@@sergiolandz6056Why the fuck would you take out loans to build an unnecessary bigger thing of a thing you already have when you can put that effort into making more tanks planes and guns? Smh Nazis really aren’t sending their brightest
@@sergiolandz6056>no usury attached to it
Nice antisemitic slogan there. Loans with no usury are essentially bonds and they can spin out of control.
@@PrimetimeX Literally the opposite😂, the usury makes the debt unplayable, that is why our nations will never be able to pay them.
Speer was a very smart man, I think he knew very well right from the start that these silly vanity projects were never ever going to happen, he just thought this was his job, making crazy old hitler happy seeing monuments on paper that would never see a single brick laid down on a foundation.
@@Bogotrazitelj.Youre orthodox christian no?
@@Bogotrazitelj. Your profile pic did, but just to keep it real with you, Hitler didn't like christians.
@@Bogotrazitelj. So why do you like him then? If you're aware of that
You couldn't be more wrong all these monuments and buildings would be possible they also made a test construction to test the weight for the volkshalle and its still standing today and historians also agree that it would be possible at that time
will you do a video on the palace of the soviets?
When you have one design philosophy and it’s make it bigger.
Is it just me or is did anybody notice the video keeps on hiccuping?
I do like the old 20s-40s architecture, Germany is a mess now,acid attacks,so much crime,tent city etc
If i had the power to travel to different universes my first trip would be to a berlin like that in maybe 50s or 60s
Somewhere in another universe, just maybe, It did come to pass..
Thank god we don't live in there
@@blueciffer1653 Speak for yourself.
@@blueciffer1653 Hahaha, jew
Boeing's shed has its own weather system being so large and particularly, high.
I think it looks badass
2:30
Never heard that one before, except from _every dictator ever_ . Why do they all seem so dumb?
Modern buildings today have lost art unfortunately
I once heard a podcast that said H was influenced to have super weapons and such by a fictional character he admired as a youth. I have not been able to find confirmation in other sources.
Anyone familiar with this?
That is incredibly vague. More details?
@@MM22966 It was a few years ago. They said the book series was Hitler's favorite as a boy and the character used a special gun that was super effective. They speculated Hitler thought this influenced his pursuit of special super weapons, V1, V2, jets, super guns, tanks... You get the idea. I thought it was an interesting angle to explain some of his motivations in his obsessions. I'll poke around some more to see if I can dig up specifics.
@@MM22966 Karl May was the author. Behind the Bastards Podcast
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@@EDKguy That's odd. It sounds like pulp scifi, but that would have been around the 1900s, which is earlier than I thought its heyday was.
EDIT: I did some quick checking, and it started around that time period! Neat!
I wonder what story it was?
(I take the "influence" part with a large grain of salt but it is not something I had heard before)
@@EDKguymaybe that's why he kept promising a losing and demotivated German army new 'wonder weapons'
0:37 He couldn't be an artist so he decides to take other people's work to make up for that inadequacy...
Coming from the fictional series The man in the high castle , all of above are pretty legit .
I can't even imagine how many camp inmates would've been forced to build this
None
@@wulfheort8021 The n@zis used a lot of slave labour for their projects, so it's not unlikely
@@wulfheort8021wrong
@@PrimetimeX You are wrong.
@@wulfheort8021 how?
Would just be easier for them to move capital from Berlin to someplace else and build from nothing, I wonder if that is what they would have done when faced with the issues of Berlin's climate.
“Never make concrete plans with a failed artist”…?! I salute you, sir! What a line! 😂
Stupid line really.
Stupid line
The last time I heard about Hitler’s big dome was when he put a bullet in it OH NO
anytime this concept is discussed the only thing anyone can talk is smack about it, but in reality if this existed it would have been one of the most impressive and awe inspiring works of human endeavour to exist. if the eiffel tower, big ben, the statue of liberty or the red square is tourist worthy, had this existed it would have dwarfed them. it truly was an impressive concept that never got to be implemented for obvious reasons.
Hitler did not distinguish fact from fiction. The guy lived in his own fantasy. Deep down he had the mind of a child, only his toys and games were the army, architecture and the German people. This building looks more like the delirium of an 8-year-old child.
100 IQ midwit with no vision or ambition. If everyone was like you, the human race would accomplish nothing.
How indoctrinated u have to be to say a bullshit like this😂. Its like to say that Washington DC was made by an idiot childish guy🤡
Those concrete test loads had already sunk enough during the war to make it clear that this project could never work. The building would have started to sag unevenly and cracks would develop, a fairly serious issue for any arch, who knows if they could have even built it fast enough to get to the dome before it became unfeasible. In a way it's a pretty funny illustration of how fascist megalomania would always collide with reality, especially given their rejection of most modern science.
You talk nonsense. “Rejection of most modern science” 😝
You do realise that until the war, German people were considered as some of the best educated people in the world.
After the war, Russia and the US scrambled to “take” as many of the German top scientists to continue their work on rocket propulsion and bringing us into the atomic age. You are blinded by your indoctrination into Antifa. You should look into the origins of your group, but I wouldn’t count on you doing that.
Mad that commies never built something worth admiring?
Speer just wanted to play Minecraft. But with slaves.