@julioalbertoherrera1339 false they were never allies. Stalin just saw the writing on the wall and signed an agreement with Germany, which he used to time to move factories so that when Germany did invade they would have nothing while the west was and still a fac**** that financed N* $ thinking mr H will go to smash ussr until he turned his face on them. The west medias actually wrote at that time saying that "hi**r betrayed the west by making a deal with the soviets 😂😂😂😂
@@julioalbertoherrera1339 Soviets changed name of national socialism to fascism because the first thing had "socialism" in its name. They do mean German way of doing things, just ideological stuff.
Destroying memorials is vandalism - no matter who does it. My hometown in Easter Europe had a memorial to Soviet soldiers and local partisans who fought the fascists. The memorial was one of the most remarkable landmarks of the city and a major public place. Some people were vandalising it before but after 2022, the authorities semi-legally destroyed the memorial. The public place around it is enclosed, the landmark destroyed. It was an act of vandalism not only against the memorial itself, but against the city too, with some people protesting to prevent the vandalisation. Now, it is a scar on the face of the city center
Kind of depends on whether you consider the Soviets to be one of the fascist occupiers rather than liberators! Getting transfered from one empire (The Third Reich) to another (The Soviet Union) isn't liberation, no reason to celebrate that!
@@thomaskalbfus2005, yeah, because obviously the one who thought of "not-austrian-blood" people as of slaves is much better option than the one who's said that "all people are equal" (in propaganda at least, cannot say about actual actions because I never learned about official race hatred actions of USSR specifically, but I don't want ho imply that there never were any).
@@thomaskalbfus2005That's really not intelligent point of view. First of all such monuments are made to remember people and events. Second, that's history which is never black and white and which should be accepted as it is. Third point, even if USSR wasn't the freest country in the world, it was liberation, couse in other case what would happen to population is written in such document as "Großplan Ost". People in Eastern Europe may not like USSR, but they must admit, that USSR is a reason, why they exist today.
@@Imaxxd22 This is a case of Bad Cop Worse Cop, that doesn't mean you should honor the Bad Cop that only wanted to enslave you and draft you into their military to use an cannon fodder so he could go on waging war on other countries which is what Stalin did. The Difference between Stalin and Hitler is that Stalin saw Eastern European People as cannon fodder for his army while Hitler saw them simply as people to get rid of, maybe to be used as slave labor on their way out, but he wanted to replace them with his Germans, which means he wanted those Germans to have babies and as they had babies he would kill off the population of Eastern Europe. Stalin didn't have a Master Race Theory and wasn't very particular about who his slaves were so long as they worked for him! Stalin thought it was incredibly wasteful to see Jews dying in a gas chamber instead of working in his gulags out in Siberia doing stuff Russians didn't want to do. So why should Germans have monuments to the people who tried to enslave them? They stopped Hitler but then they enslaved them, it wasn't altruism that motivated Stalin, it was building his Empire, that's all he wanted, a bunch of serfs and slaves, whether they were Russian or German didn't really matter to him!
I am more surprised when the monument to Empress Catherine in Odessa is demolished. She founded this city in general. Or monuments to writers or poets of those times, it's just nonsense and recklessness. And anyway, will the demolition of monuments help you win this war? Are there no other problems in the country or at the front? Maybe it's better to use these funds for more necessary projects and things? For example, instead of demolishing a monument, can you spend money to buy better equipment for a soldier or buy more first-aid kits?
People that want to change or destroy the past are condemned for the future. These aren't just Soviet memorials, they are a symbol of victory over an enemy that wanted to anhiliate an entire people.
@@jayzandstra1830 Soviet people suffering in ww2 doesn't have nothing to do with stalin's massacres. Which is also another thing they have passed through...
The Soviets also tried to annihilate many races: the Cossacks, the Kulaks, the Volga Germans, Georgian Jews and Crimean Tartars. I just found it really uncomfortable when I was in Berlin that there were memorials to people who fought for this country, especially with the sexual crimes they committed when they were in Germany itself. I understand that the Germans did the same on Soviet soil but two wrongs does not make a right. I don't think these statues should be destroyed, but they should definitely be marked with signs showing some background of the Soviet crimes.
@nickbell4984 The horrible crimes committed by a few don't need to destroy the legacy and cause that millions died fighting for. Because if we follow this logic, the Americans and British and practically everyone else are also included. Remember that Even in germany not everyone else was a war criminal...
@@HeadsetHatGuy you are absolutely right. Look at the UKRONAtzeez/Banderovites they are destroying Soviet structures and turning into a Ne0naтzee nation who idolises People like Stepan Bandera.
@@alexanderrahl482 are you German by chance? Anyways I also hope it remains. It seems like many Germans at least in my experience in the internet don’t seem to know much about the imperial German empire or they really are against monarchies
It is simple, because the Soviet Union doesn't have anything to do with the actions of the Russian government. Putting down Soviet memorials is disrespectful to those who died in the fight against fascism. These are not only Russians but also Lithuanians, Estonians, Latvians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Moldavians, Georgians, Azerbaijanis, Armenians, Chechens, Dagestanis, Ingush, Cherkessians, Kazkahs, Turkmens, Uzbeks, Kyrgyz, Tajikistan and the many other people groups of the former Soviet Union.
As a Georgian, I couldn't agree more. I personally have huge respect and admiration for the Soviet Union, for managing to defeat such an existential danger to us all, in just the ~15 year downtime it had to industrialize and catch up with the world that had industrialized 70 years ago, just goes to show how quickly they advanced, and also how much they cared for their republics as well, as they brought the same advancement there, too.
Indeed. To cite an example: everyone has heard about "Pavlov's House", but almost no one knows: out of the 24 defenders, only 10 were Russian, the rest came from various other nationalities of the USSR. There was an anti-tank rifle section which took part in the defense of the house, under the command of senior sergeant Sobgayda, and the section had no ethnic Russians in it, as his deputy, corporal Ramazanov was a Tatar, and privates Yakimenko, Murzaev, Turgunov and Turdyev were Ukrainian, Kazakh, Uzbek and Tajik, respectively. One can imagine how diverse was the Red Army if such a small unit like the group of soldiers defending the house came from 9 different nationalities.
As a german id like to have them stay, just like the imperial german monuments. Heck im even against removing old bells with the swastika. Its part of our history, they should be preserved
Exactly! They offer moments for reflection and critical thought. In the UK they are removing statues of people that traded slaves, but in the decades to come this will only disconnect the youth from their history and their peoples role in it. It's absolutely backwards and stupid!
true, despite what the swastika was being used for in the 1930s too 1945, it's preserving history, doesn't mean i glorify it, i'm a Marxist, i'm against Fascism
No thats just a coverup, Germans are raised on the guilt pride doctrine thats why they’re progressively trying everything they can to be perceived as anti-fascist ,also thats why they’re are hardcore pro-zionism , basically trying to brainwash the world of their fast
@@Alberto-Almano Natürlich haben auch die Sowjets Verbrechen begangen, aber deshalb die Gedenkstätten für Soldaten die gegen eines der schlimmsten Regimes aller Zeiten gekämpft haben als Schandmale zu bezeichnen, ist echt respektlos. Außerdem klingt da meiner Meinung nach mit, dass es eine Schande war den Zweiten Weltkrieg verloren zu haben, was ja wohl die Höhe ist. Ich will noch sagen, dass das nicht die Meinung aller Deutschen ist und dass es Leute wie Sie sind die Deutschland einen schlechten Ruf geben.
Great respect from Russia to our German friends for this, it really shows the soul of the German people. Even now, when politicians are shouting that we are enemies, we are still friends. Our peoples will overcome this and once again we will stand for one thing, for a bright future for all of us.
Ihr seid nicht unsere Freunde und das wart es noch nie! Wir deutschen werden unseren Stolz zurückbekommen und diese Relikte aus unserem Land entfernen.
As a german, I have to say that I'm not a friend of Russia. I however also have to say that dismantling these monuments in Germany would be inacceptable, because they were (mostly) built to commemorate the soldiers who fought against one of the most evil regimes in history, which was germany, and not to glorify the atrocities commited by the soviet union or Russia today. In other countries it is different, because there the soviets might have liberated them from the germans, but they also suppressed them and their culture and killed many.
I used to live in Ukraine for 6 years. There was a war memorial of the red army with a t-34 tank on it. For years when using public transport people would say, “please stop at the tank” but after the start of war with Russia the mayor got rid of that tank citing patriotism. Really sad initiative given the city is littered with places where soldiers have fallen for their motherland. Ukrainian government however are erasing their glorious past.
Всё больше и больше памятников наших прадедов пропадают..... А это ведь наша история, наше прошлое, время когда мы все вместе остановили нацизм в Европе и спасли мир, а политика нас только разделяет.... Мы славяне братья же, а запад этого не понимают, они не знают наши традиции, вот и называют нас вандалами, по этому только советский союз и его народ выйграли в войне, никто иначе
Not all Soviet soldiers are good nor are they bad, they are of mixed origins, ukrainians, belorussians, russians, predominantly with hundreds more and smaller minorities, for what it's worth preserving these memorials not only memorialise the sacrifices of these men but also to remind the German nation of it's painful past and trespasses, remind its people of the millions of young germans who went to war never to be seen and only to be forgotten in the vast expanses of the Russian steppes in a futile attempt to win glory for a leader who only care about revenge and ideological fanaticism.
One thing that a lot of people tend to forget is there was also a large number of Asians in the Soviet military. Especially from the perspective of the Germans, the far eastern part of the Soviet union. Unfortunately, though these individuals are almost never represented in any forms of media. In fact, I think the only time I ever saw, an individual of Asian lineage depicted in a thing centered on the Soviets was in the Netflix short film, love death and robots called the secret war.
For some reason people think that Soviet Union was only Russia, but at the moment of USSR colapse there was : 148m russians, 51m ukrainians, 10,3m belorusians, 20,3m uzbeks, 16,7m kazakhs and 40m of other nationalities, from 1 to 7m , nearly half of the population was not russian, and the glory for victory is not solitary on the russians. By removing such monuments they show no respect to their parents, grandparents and other relatieves, who fought for the whole USSR and their republics during 1941-45 and even other times...
Every bit of the Soviet Union was once part of the Russian Empire, not including Warsaw Pact countries of course. so all those nationalities you speak of also served under the Czars of Russia and people back then just called it the Russian Empire!
@@thomaskalbfus2005 yes! And half of the nations which lived in USSR were not a thing in Empire, USSR was not great, AND I MEAN IT, but they gave every autonomy they could give.
@Xansey Ukraine was part of the Russian Empire and so were all the other Soviet Republics. The only difference between the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union was the overthrow of the Czars and the replacement of them by the Communist government.
"Uncover your head! Here are Soviet soldiers, heroes from the great war 1941-1945 laid to eternal rest. A grateful humanity never forgets their brave deeds" Something about this in particular is extremely saddening. I will occasionally come back to this video just to hear it
This was a completely different time. The soldiers who died for a different cause, they where hero’s in their own right. How can you compare what modern day Russia has done and ultimately deface these men’s graves. The men who died in ww2 have nothing to do with this conflict.
It is a shame to see the current conflict being used as a means of erasing Soviet history, especially in regard to memorials to the Soviet role in WWII.
@@m.r.3912 the MR pact was to to buy the Soviets time before the inevitable Nazi invasion. Anyone with even a cursory understanding of Soviet history knows this. Stalin was obsessed with building the productive forces of the USSR since the 1920s in order to defeat the future attack from the west that he accurately foresaw.
RedPen, this is the official declaration by which the Soviet Union explained this pact after the war. Accordingly, Stalin would have been a genius who foresaw everything exactly. However, the almost complete obliteration of the Soviet officers' chorus as part of the Stalinist purges does not fit in with this. The filling of officer posts with inexperienced newcomers already caused great chaos and high losses during the attempted Soviet invasion of Finland in 1939 and even more when the German invasion took place. Even today historians still argue about the real reasons for the pact between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany. In any case, the USSR aggressively attempted to incorporate the countries promised to it as areas of influence in the secret additional protocol of the pact and also massively supported the German blitzkrieg with supplies of raw materials...until they were attacked themselves.
As Russian, I respect this effort. I hope there can be peace. And for those who wants to remove soviet memorials - Ukraine was an important part of USSR. It was their sacrifice too.
i think a lot of people tend to forget that ukraine was also part of the ussr, and when you tear down soviet war memorials, you also spit on the legacy of the ukrainians that served in the red army
What a joke, the Holodomor happened less than a quarter decade before the war. Ukraine was dragged along into WW2 as a meat shield. It is the ghost of the USSR that is the cause of the current war and there is nothing you can do to change this fact.
they used it under the name of Nationalism and called that all Ukranian who died for USSR is a traitor. Same goes for Poland and so on. Most notice example is Konstantin Rokossovsky.
Потому что немцы А) не глупы. Они понимают, что в составе СССР были не только русские, но и другие нации. Сейчас многие страны рушат памятники СССР из-за войны, но это тупейшее решение, потому что фактически эти страны рушат памятники не только российским солдатам, но и украинцев, белорусов и так далее. Б) немцы понимающая нация, благодарная. Они понимают, что ссср освободил их от нацизма, что является худшим кошмаром. Настоящий немецкий патриот не тот, кто во время ВМВ пошёл сражаться за германию, а тот, кто стал антифашистом. Хотя на самом деле особого выбора тогда не было. Ты либо идёшь воевать, либо тебя убьют. На самом деле обычные немцы не хотели воевать на стороне психа антисемита
Они их рушили ещё с 90-х, когда каждый пытался максимально очернить Советский союз дабы снискать большее снисхождение со стороны "западных коллег". Люди были готовы плевать на собственную историю, лишь бы великий западноевропейский пан благословил их жалкую страну.
Ну типа вот если бы они рушили памятняки только русским солдатам, сражавшимся с 3 рейхом, то это была бы норма? Советские солдаты вообще какое отношение имеют к текущим печальным событиям?
@@argun4149 Это была бы не норма конечно, но по их логике это логично. Но не по моей Сейчас к сожалению отменяют все русское: даже писателей, которые родились несколько веков назад
Honestly, the world went on a downward whirl since 1998. Not saying USSR has better government, but it was a healthy competition for the people of 2 countries.
@@thomaskalbfus2005The Holy Roman Empire was a federation of different German countries. Germany is the descendant of Prussia. They are two completely different political entities. Of course they are connected but saying they are the same is ridiculous.
@@thomaskalbfus2005that’s just not true look at what happened in the Cold War you really think China at its current state could pull that off? china’s military and global influence is no where near as strong though economically they are better than the USSR however China is dealing with economic issues and an aging population these problems will probably stop them from becoming a superpower keep them as just a great power though who knows what’ll happen
@@SpaceMarine500 I know that they partitioned Poland with the Wehrmacht. I know that they committed brutal war crimes in certain places at certain times, and a million other things. I understand. but, you have to understand that the Western Allies had done the same kinds of things as well (we're talking bombing raids that caused significant civilian casualties, internment of Japanese-Americans in concentration camps in America, war crimes done as well especially in western Europe etc.). Not only that, but just because of these things happening, doesn't take away from the fact that the Red Army had played a very significant role in the eventual defeat of both the European Axis and the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere and bravely fought against them. Some even say that WW2 could've ended in an Axis victory if it wasn't for the very stupid decision of invading the USSR, which brought them into the war alongside the allies.
Don’t forget: Soviet heroes were not only Russian. They were Kazakh, Buryat, Estonian, Saha, Chechen, Georgian, Kyrgyz, Uzbek, Tatar, Ukrainian, Belarusian, Azerbaijani, Armenian, Moldovan, Uyghur, and many others. When you allow yourself to disrespect monuments of the Great Patriotic War because they are “Russian” or “Soviet” or whatever your propaganda says, remember this: Soviet people were a united front of many nations. By disrespecting these monuments, you disrespect the heroes of those nations and forget the history they fought for. Many in the West now say Soviets and Germans were allies. How ignorant! We lost 25 million people fighting this war against the so-called “allies.” This devastation wasn’t because of Stalin, as Westerners like to say, but because the Nazis waged a War of Annihilation in Eastern Europe, especially against the USSR. Nazi didn’t only hate Jews; they hated Gypsies, Slavic people, and Communists.
@Kodiakengineer so should their sacrifices be devalued just because they are not Slavs? In my family, everyone fought in the war except my grandmother, and that was only because she was a child. Should we forget their heroic deeds just because they belonged to a different nationality? No. They were citizens of the Soviet Union, where everyone was equal, and thus monuments to heroes also honor them. Yakuts were excellent snipers, and radio operators were often selected from minorities to make intercepted messages harder to understand. Many children across the Soviet Union were evacuated to Central Asia and placed in families during the war, while orphans were raised as their own. Meanwhile, the entire country, regardless of nationality, worked tirelessly to support the front-from adults to children-especially in the republics. I would also like to remind you that in the Soviet Union, there were no fewer Turkic peoples than Slavs. Tatars, Yakuts, Bashkirs, Kumyks, etc and all of Central Asian republics consist of Turkic peoples. Therefore, your statement is inaccurate.
@@Red-b6x no but fact is the majority of people who died were Slavs since Slavs were the primary ethic group associated with the ussr. Others did suffer aswell but the Slavic culture suffered more
Well it's simple, because they're amazing and unlike some _Barbarians_ I'm aware of, they have respect for history! They absolutely despise their Nazi past and for all the right reasons, and yet you can find real Luftwaffe planes with their original Swastikas in their museums, that's insanely respectable for me. Anyways, this mentality of spitting on the legacy of the Soviet Union for what a radically different, modern _Russia_ is doing, is absolutely disgusting to me. In Georgia, my home country, I once visited a huge, absolutely beautiful Soviet memorial, hidden in a forested area and on a hill. It's extremely hard to get to, and you have to deliberately travel dozens of kilometres to get to and visit it, _and yet it was defaced,_ I assume by the members of the radical nazist anti-soviet party of Georgia. So some jobless, soulless vandal, with zero respect for history, was informed and determined enough to spend an entire day to go take power tools and paint up a mountain to destroy a statue of a _CRYING MOTHER MOURNING HER DEAD SON!_ This has to be the most evil thing one can do in their ''life,'' and unfortunately, that's very akin to what people like Ukrainians and Estonians are doing, foolishly unaware of how much they are disrespecting THEIR OWN history.
@@Alexander-t97l occupied ? Do you know by the constitution of the Soviet union , every republic is equal and it has the abilities to declare independence if they want to
@@lamngocanhanh The Soviet "constitution" was no worth of a paper on which it was printed, it was only suitable as a toilet paper. Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania were not "republics" but colonies of Soviet Empire.
@@Alexander-t97l they are equal republics in the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union at that time is even more democratic than the gornverment of those Baltic states, which are nothing but a bunch of pro-facists.
Germany knows how to properly learn from history and never repeat it. Also it's kinda of a moral rule to respect the enemies dead and their families, these people have lives too. Weather they've done good, bad or both. These are people who died for their families, their country, their friends or all the above. Just like the famous quote from Teresa Schneidvind, "We were taught to learn from pain.....We care for our memorials becuase they allow us to learn from the mistakes of past generations." and the famous quote from the Mayor, "This is our history, no matter what is going on in world politics, we have to take care of it, becuase it is apart of us." The same applies everywhere else, yes even the U.S.A. We have done a lot of wrongs these too, especially to other nations who didn't deserve it and to our own.
This is what we called civilizational nation, histories becomes part of that nation whether or not it fits into their narrative, it requires no revisionism
NEVER demolish war cemetaries. Bow your head and respect if not the soldier at least the suffering a human being had to endure. Becaue behind each grave is the story of a family grieving for their son, sibling, etc. Have empathy rather than hatred. Even with this small gesture we lay the foundation for a better world.
@@LeanflareHad… ofc that is totally wrong as well and is an insult to and disrespect to all former USSR member states. You should be ashamed of your historical ignorance!
If you think about it, when you destroy memorials, depending on what it is, you are desecrating a grave site, despite your ideology, we are all human and the burials and the past of all nations should be remembered and learned from.
Not 1/2 mile from the Brandenburg Gate is the Soviet memorial from WWII. A fifty foot high statue of a Russian soldier with columns on either side, and T-34 tanks on pedestals on both side. I've been there. Impressive and the Germans leave it alone.
@@thepixelnova1 Countries that were "liberated" by the Soviets just traded one dictator for another. Stop acting like the USSR didn't also commit genocides and human rights violations. They were just as bad as the Nazis.
@@StandTallTx the whole “Soviets and Nazis are the same” is quite literally fascist propaganda attempting to absolve and whitewash the Nazis of their crimes. How can they be the same when after 40 years of Soviet influence the people of Eastern Europe still remain? Had the Nazis won the Slavs, Balts, and other ethnic groups of Eastern Europe would’ve been either enslaved for the German war machine, massacred which was already what was occurring through fascist occupied territory, or forcibly germanized and made to lose their culture. What the Soviets did absolutely was liberation and I struggle to see how you’d disagree with that, why don’t you google generalplan ost if you don’t believe me
@@thepixelnova1 you say that like ussr was a caring and loving regime that totally didn't conduct genocide, ethnic cleansings, mass r@pe, and just overall oppression of poles, baltics, czechs, slovaks, ukrainians, etc.
Lützen is a town, where important historic Events happened. In 1632 there died the swedish King in Battle, 1709 another swedish King conquested saxony in the Nordic War and in 1813 the Battle of Grossgörschen, later of Leipzig took place there. Time ist passing by......
They wouldn't let us in on 9th of May, because one of us was wearing a shirt with a small hanmer and sickle on it. Literally insane how they ban soviet symbols on the day of our liberation by the USSR, especially a symbol signifying the alliance of the workers and the peasants, the toiling masses against the landholders and industrials. I'm just kidding, of course the slavers who are condoning genocide in the name of democracy will do all they can to smear and tarnish the glory of past popular movements that toppled thé regimes of their forebearers and make them quiver in their boots at the mere thought of a people on the move
In Volgograd there is a cemetery of German soldiers that the locals tend to, it is modest admittedly but when one thinks of all the suffering the Nazis brought to Russia it is incredible that there is such a place and that the locals keep and still maintain it speaks to a greater heart than I can ever understand, The Russian people is tough but generous, they only left their memorials while the USA still has military bases.
Not as much as Soviets brought suffering to the world including their own Country and Ukraine....holodomor killed as many people as holocaust in a fraction of the time. All commie monuments need to be removed.
I just looked up Volgograd on Maps. This place really has lots of beautiful memorials. It feels like this place is a memorial itself. I really would love to visit it by myself, but with current political conflicts it's quite hard. :/ I hope I get to see it one day
Well Russians (IVAN) were ferocious fighters and fighting for their homeland. During a prisoner of war parade after operation Bagration in 1944 in Moscow Red Square the Russian ladies were seen feeling pity for teenaged and injured German soldiers and some openly lamenting"like our boys dragged to fight the war not of their making". War is HELL and Eastern Front of WW2 was worst.
I feel bad that other German memorials of past German soldiers from ww1 are getting destroyed and disrespected when they fought for the Germans and for the future of generations and did what they thought was the good choice. It is a shame also that the bravery of German soldiers who had to fight in ww2 isn't acknowledged
@@redpen1917 Not Nazis, you are referring to them like they all thought the same. They were people, put there to fight and risk their life's. Some did because they had to, some did it because they wanted to serve. But seeing all of them as some kind of "monsters" is utterly ridiculous. Imagine you being sent on the front line, dying one year of service, and your homeland lost the War and everyone would start seeing you as the "bad dude", your own sacrifice would have been a waste. The Nazi regime should be the one hated on, not brave soldiers that did that both me and you would probably have to do in case of a world war 3.
Memorializing the people who defeated your nation is an act of humility. It is a reflection on the folly of your ancestors' pride. Yes German soldiers were brave and many of them died doing what they thought was right. It's not about them. The statues stand for the moral lessons modern people must learn from those wars.
@@appa609 It is humiliating in a sense but yeah, removing those statues would be bad optics in the international community and go against the reputation Germany wants as a state distanced from nazism as much as possible.
The war in Ukraine did not begin in 2022 as many in the west would believe. It started 8 years prior with a civil war between pro West Ukrainians and Russian Ukrainians. After the installation of the government in Kiev by a political coup in 2014 Russian Ukrainians became 3rd and 4th class citizens in Ukraine. Not only was there a violation to their civil rights but they had also been subject to military assaults in predominately Russian provences within Ukraine.
Let's not forget, US led the coup and NATO trained the AZOV NAZI units used in Eastern Ukraine against ethnic the Russian-Ukraine where over14,000 civilian have been killed.
That is so pro Kremlin proganda. In the Donetsk area the majority chose for to stay with an independent Ukraine after the fall of the Sowjet-Union. Only in Crimea a small majority chose for an independent Ukraine. Even after the Invasion of Russia in 2022 most Ukrainians spoke Russian privately. It became patriotic to speak Ukrainian, it is not forbidden to speak Russian, it is considered unpatriotic at best. Although even in the army Russian is still spoken. Nearly all books in the Ukraine up to 2023 have been written in Russian.
@@jamesomaha5330It started even earlier than that, when NATO broke her promise to expand eastwards „not one inch“. The promise is well-documented, albeit not in writing, but in reports from those involved (Baker, Genscher etc.). The current Russophobia in NATO countries is the same as the „red scare“ in the US was.
@@Arsenic71Man stop with the nato expanding eastwards Putin bullshit. NATO didn’t ask or force anyone in. Post Warsaw Pact nations applied for membership to protect themselves from another 45 years of russian occupation ffs There were even talks about Russian entry into NATO during Yeltsin but they got mad that NATO didn’t invite them in. It’s NATO protocol that countries have to apply by free will it’s not the other way around so Russia never tried to apply and went their own way.
@Arsenic71 It was promised when east and west Germany were going to be united that Nato would not expend to the former east Germany. And it never has done. There are no Nato sites in former east Germany. Gorbachev said this in interviews and has written this in his memoires Also Russia never objected when Poland became a Nato member did it? Certainly Russia objected when other former Warsaw pact countries applied for Nato status and received it. But why it never bothered to ask itself why those countries preferred Nato status? Russia was heavily dependent of western financial aid at that period of time thus swallowed it objections. The truth lies in the fact that many former Warsaw pact countries feared the Russian influence. Many Polish say that ww2 really ended when Russia and its influence left the country. Safety returned when they were accepted for Nato. Instead of becoming the friendly neighbour Russia became the neighbourhood bully.
To destroy memorials doesnt solve any problems, they are artifacts of the history. To destroy them just means to destroy your history, even if this part of the history wasnt the best one. From the past we can learn, memorials can help with that. And remember, to destroy thos memorials just mean to spit on the fallen soldiers. Let them rest.
@@Zeltace-t8o Yes, they died to fight the Nazis, and anyways, its history, we don't have to honor them, just preserve it. (also a lot of the soldiers who died fighting there were from the other countries of the USSR and not from Russia itself, there were a lot of Poles there too)
An interesting fact is that there are more monuments of Stalin and Lenin all over the world than in Russia. there are no monuments to Stalin in Russia, and most of them were simply demolished, despite the fact that we won a decisive war under him, he is considered a tyrant who lost many lives of his people
It is really painful for me to realize that many soviet monuments were destroyed all around the Europe. Here in Russia we also have a lot of monuments dedicated to soldiers from Germany, Poland, France and many more who fought and died in WW1 and WW2. There are even monuments dedicated to Greece soldiers who fought in Crimean war in alliance with Russian Empire against England and France. And we and our government take care of these monuments. Sometimes you can see flowers presented to these monuments. No matter what nationality were these soldiers and were these soldiers on the opposite site of the war they are all humans. Here in Crimea we have monuments dedicated to the 3rd reich’s soldiers who fought and died here in 1944.
The problem of the people is that they tend to be stupid and fall for the emotions instead of looking at the situation from the outside in. At the end we are all manipulated by the government and start to hate each other for some political reasons.
Trieste and surrounding towns has memorials commemorating the partisans who fought the German Army in 1944. The partisans were composed of townsmen who fought before Tito,s Yugoslav Partisan Army entered Trieste. The Slovenes' of Triestre once 150,000 are now only 80,000 since 1950 due to Italian economic and racial discrimination and have immigrated to Australia. That was their reward for fighting fascism. As long there are Slovenes in Trieste these memorials will always stand. The difference to Germany is there are and will always be living descendants of the partisans whereas in Germany there are only the statues.
@@seductive_fishstick8961what? did you use google translate? hakenkreuz literally means hooked cross in German. If you use google translate it WILL say swastika because that's what everyone calls it in english, that doesn't mean it's correct. Swastika is the name of the original symbol in Hindu-Buddhism, and was never officially used by NSDAP to refer to the symbol. For them, it has always been Hakenkreuz.
Can you imagine having a memorial for an army, that purged your people from a fourth of its former territory, committed countless atrocities against your people and occupied a quarter of what is left of your country for almost half a century, in your capital? I consider this memorial to be a great national insult and if it was up to me it would be demolished tomorrow.
@@mikeisteinmongozwei5434 I wonder who invaded who first and who killed millions of souls in the east first .... also almost all german land lost was given to poland and it was deserved. wWhat do you think they should have keep these diverse ethnic regions after comiting the holocaust and sending death squads in the USSR? Your take is incredebly dumb., go outside and touch grass.
@@mikeisteinmongozwei5434 you're forgetting why this happened. Had the Germans not invaded the Soviet Union and plundered, raped, and massacred it's population that wouldn't have happened to Germany
@@mikeisteinmongozwei5434 and you guys killed 19 million civilians, sent them to labor camps, sold off women and children in brothels, etc etc. You wanted a war of annihilation and you got it.
I really don´t like what Russia is doing right now in Ukraine, but Germany should continue to protect these old soviet memorials, especially the graves.
Because you don't understand stand it. I just came from Russia from the Donbass and heard the truth from its people and Russia is the hero in thus story!
@inimene-n7y I am against the destruction of historical works of art but some historical works of art are better kept out of public places for ideological reasons .
That's what you called responsibility, protecting history because it happen , and served as reminder . If it gone it would erased the past . And denying everything that happen .
@@lennardschneider6847 No it's the anthem of the USSR why would they play the anthem of russia in a video about the soviet union. Yeah, I get it they sound the same but just say the ussr not russia
I don't think any piece of history should be erased, no matter what was the political alignment of the builder. Just because history may not fit my own ideology or standards, I'm not going to ignore it.
What's funny is Ukraine doesn't want to say Russia is the sole successor to the USSR. Russia offered to pay off Ukraine's debt which it inherited through Ukrainian SSR, Ukraine refused the offer for this purpose and now is tearing down USSR's statues after Russia's aggression. Lol.
Сносить Лениных они начали задолго до всяких "агрессий". Даже еще до этого их Майдана. Впрочем - у нас, в России, тоже сносят, только тихо и не афишируя. И всякую белогвардейскую сволочь пытаются протолкнуть, но народ сопротивляется (вон, недавно совсем было - пытались повесить памятную табличку Маннергейму. В Ленинграде, который тот блокировал с севера и помогал морить голодом. Долго табличка не провисела, но важен сам факт попытки. А на юге страны пытаются Краснова легализовать, который открыто на службу к Бесноватому перешёл, и всех белоэмигрантов призывал сделать то же самое). Грустно всё это, блин.
@@TongorBlackHawk Согласен, тоже когда читаю про такое, то недоумеваю, куда вообще всё катится. Монергейм это вообще был эпик фейл, думаю блокадники и их родственники были в шоке. Неужели Европа, в том числе и Россия постепенно придут к фашизму. Декоммунизация идет полным ходом как культурно, так и сносами памятников и тому подобное.
@thejosh3855 Then who built schools, hospitals, appartments, railroads, metro in the big cities, industrial places, save Ukrainian language and also has free medicine and education? Ukraine was a part of Soviet Union with its minuses and pluses. Soviet Union wasn't a great country but it's wasn't so bad. Ukraine was a part of that but not a colony or vassal.
Россия != СССР. СССР - это великое государство построенное на лучших идеях человечества 20-го века. Красивая сказка, но сказка победившая фашизм, вторая страна ставшая обладательницей ядерного оружия, и первая страна отправившая человека в космос(не на луну). Россия - это просто молодая капиталистическая страна, пытающаяся подражать политике США формата 70-80-х годов и внедрившая некоторые элементы плановой экономики в социальной сфере. У неё пока нет никаких исторических достижений, которыми можно было бы гордиться.
I think of the Confederate Statues being trashed here in America. I am impressed with Germany it has the strength of character to honor the dead. Merry Christmas to all who fell in war.
@@May-ve6sr Yeah simpleton. 86% of the Confederate Soldiers were conscripted (Drafted) against their will to fight for the Confederacy. Most working white males did not want Slavery in the south for one simple fact. Hard to make a living wage when a slave did the labor for free. These are facts no longer taught in school/college anymore. Just bull stuff gas lighting. READ A BOOK!!!!
As a Russian, I am grateful to the people of Germany for remembering history, and it is very painful to see what is happening today. In a sense, there will soon be another fact that brings our peoples closer together. Just as young Germans feel "German guilt" for the actions of their ancestors, the same thing will happen in Russia sooner or later, I am sure of it.
Can you name one country wich get their freedom after they were "liberated" by the Soviet Unionen? I see no diffrence beteween a nazi dictator or a communist dictator.
@@seductive_fishstick8961 you know that ussr did it's fair share of murders, cleansings, imperialism, and just overall oppression to the poles, ukrainians, czechs, finns, baltics, etc. right?
How can anyone recognize the Russian Federation of today to that of the Soviet Union? How can so many forget how the collapse of the Soviet Union…which was perpetrated by Yetlson, which used force to get his way, leading to Putin rise in power. Glory to the red army!
Easy because the Russia Federation acts just like the Soviet Union, they sing the Soviet National Anthem, display Soviet flags and they fight with Soviet Weapons!
@@thomaskalbfus2005what other weapons do you suggest they use? By the way the soviet and Russian anthem are different lyrically but have a similar melody.
The cemetery in my small town in west germany still has the graves of 12 POWs. Their names are in cyrillic but translated those names don't seem to be exclusively russian. They probably came from all over eastern europe. In the next village over there is also a monument for the local germans who died in the two wars by name. That is what "Never forget" means.
Interesting fact about "separation of Poland", THE USSR RETURNED ONLY THE TERRITORIES THAT POLAND OCCUPIED FROM THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE DURING THE CIVIL WAR. AND THIS WAS TECHNICALLY THE TERRITORY OF UKRAINE OCCUPIED BY THE POLES.
And now Poland are currently helping Ukraine to protect their territory that they once occupied and was brought back to Ukraine by Soviet Union. Oh the irony
@knightcommander5694 The irony is that Poland bought a lot of Ukrainian enterprises and owns a huge part of the ukrainian economy right now. And Poland doesn't give up territorial claims, they just put them off until a convenient moment. And this is pretty rational of them.
@timelordthemaster buying farmland isn't the same as making territorial claims, but in any case Ukraine and Belarus received a bunch of Polish land after World War II.
@thomaskalbfus2005 it's not a "polish land" it's land populated mostly by Belarus and Ukrainians. My Belarus friend still has preserved memoirs and photographs from the times of the Polish occupation of the Belarusian land (from his ancestors).🗿
Germans seem to be wiser than other Europeans. They know how to preserve their history no matter what their current political stand is. No wonder they were the ones who spearheaded most of the technological and scientific innovations in Europe.
0:49 when the U.S. invaded Iraq or when the U.S. and its attack dog nato destroyed Libya did the remove U.S. statues too. And when nato was creeping towards Russia’s border did they object to this. The double standard and and hypocrisy is so blatant
Anyone willing to lay down their life for their homes deserves remembrance. Whether they be US, British, Soviet, Confederate, or even Nazi. To disgrace what they fought for only makes them and their sacrifice meaningless. To me all soldiers, even those fighting for the losing side laid down their lives for their beliefs, and that deserves respect. If we forget what they fought for, whether it be good or bad then we risk repeating the bad, and losing the values of the good. Remember, the soldiers are people too.
Its incredible how some people are eager to forget and rewrite the history, like neither the past, nor the future matters. and its incredible that some people are ready to defend the history at the any cost. Mothers are not all good or all bad, we can view them differently, but nothing they do, and nothing we see in their doing can not cancel the fact that they are the very reason we have this life.
Because they are cucked beyond belief and so afraid of their own past evils that they would rather glorify others' past evils just to show how much they disawow. It's absolutely pathetic.
So... we live in such a time that we are surprised that someone does not want to destroy monuments (Pieces of history and signs of honor) that glorify the struggle for equality and denounce the horrors of war. We are surprised at this under the fact that the only reason to vandalize monuments and tear them down is because of the actions of the government of the state that is in the place of another state, that installed these monuments 80 years ago. Do we really find nothing weird about it?...
I'm glad Germany didn't destroy their Soviet monuments. It's a shame that Poland today is destroying and erasing their Communist past. Fascism is very popular in Poland and disrespects the Ludowe Wojsko Polskie Veterans, including my great-grandfather, who joined the Communist side to liberate his country against the Fascists. Greetings from your Polish Comrade who's living in the UK.
Your grandfather was either a traitor or an idiot for siding with the Soviets. They had invaded Poland in the 1920s and went halves on Poland with Germany in 1939 as part of the Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact. Poland fought against Germany to be taken over by a Godless regime which hated both church and nation after Britain cast them aside at the negotiation tables - and Poland was the entire pretext over which Britain started the Second World War and lost its empire for just to give The Soviets a massive swarth of Eastern Europe for its gulag slave industries. It feels shameful to be a Brit for these reasons, but how embarrassing must it be for a Pole who fought for his oppressors to be rewarded with 70 years of enslavement and repression.
"We have liberated Europe from fascism, but they will never forgive us for it." ~Marshal Georgy Zhukov
Only Italy had fascism. Germany had national sozialism, and they were allied with the Soviets in 1939-1941-
@julioalbertoherrera1339 false they were never allies. Stalin just saw the writing on the wall and signed an agreement with Germany, which he used to time to move factories so that when Germany did invade they would have nothing while the west was and still a fac**** that financed N* $ thinking mr H will go to smash ussr until he turned his face on them. The west medias actually wrote at that time saying that "hi**r betrayed the west by making a deal with the soviets 😂😂😂😂
@@julioalbertoherrera1339basically worse version of fascism. And Soviets being allied with Germany in 1939 means nothing
The commis been the Same murder pigs as the germans
@@julioalbertoherrera1339 Soviets changed name of national socialism to fascism because the first thing had "socialism" in its name. They do mean German way of doing things, just ideological stuff.
Destroying memorials is vandalism - no matter who does it. My hometown in Easter Europe had a memorial to Soviet soldiers and local partisans who fought the fascists. The memorial was one of the most remarkable landmarks of the city and a major public place. Some people were vandalising it before but after 2022, the authorities semi-legally destroyed the memorial. The public place around it is enclosed, the landmark destroyed. It was an act of vandalism not only against the memorial itself, but against the city too, with some people protesting to prevent the vandalisation. Now, it is a scar on the face of the city center
Kind of depends on whether you consider the Soviets to be one of the fascist occupiers rather than liberators! Getting transfered from one empire (The Third Reich) to another (The Soviet Union) isn't liberation, no reason to celebrate that!
The USSR was almost as bad if not worse than the “fascists” they were fighting
@@thomaskalbfus2005, yeah, because obviously the one who thought of "not-austrian-blood" people as of slaves is much better option than the one who's said that "all people are equal" (in propaganda at least, cannot say about actual actions because I never learned about official race hatred actions of USSR specifically, but I don't want ho imply that there never were any).
@@thomaskalbfus2005That's really not intelligent point of view. First of all such monuments are made to remember people and events.
Second, that's history which is never black and white and which should be accepted as it is.
Third point, even if USSR wasn't the freest country in the world, it was liberation, couse in other case what would happen to population is written in such document as "Großplan Ost". People in Eastern Europe may not like USSR, but they must admit, that USSR is a reason, why they exist today.
@@Imaxxd22 This is a case of Bad Cop Worse Cop, that doesn't mean you should honor the Bad Cop that only wanted to enslave you and draft you into their military to use an cannon fodder so he could go on waging war on other countries which is what Stalin did. The Difference between Stalin and Hitler is that Stalin saw Eastern European People as cannon fodder for his army while Hitler saw them simply as people to get rid of, maybe to be used as slave labor on their way out, but he wanted to replace them with his Germans, which means he wanted those Germans to have babies and as they had babies he would kill off the population of Eastern Europe. Stalin didn't have a Master Race Theory and wasn't very particular about who his slaves were so long as they worked for him!
Stalin thought it was incredibly wasteful to see Jews dying in a gas chamber instead of working in his gulags out in Siberia doing stuff Russians didn't want to do.
So why should Germans have monuments to the people who tried to enslave them? They stopped Hitler but then they enslaved them, it wasn't altruism that motivated Stalin, it was building his Empire, that's all he wanted, a bunch of serfs and slaves, whether they were Russian or German didn't really matter to him!
Simple answer: The German know it's better to learn from history than erase it.
Those are gravesyards not just memorials. there are millions of german graves in Russia.
This is so false statement about Germans. They erased other nations and their heritage in the past on multiple occasion. Would do it again.
Simple answer: The German have humiliation kink
@@ydk1k253 it's better than whatever kinks the US have
They have sent tanks to fight Russia. What did they learn exactly?
I am more surprised when the monument to Empress Catherine in Odessa is demolished. She founded this city in general. Or monuments to writers or poets of those times, it's just nonsense and recklessness. And anyway, will the demolition of monuments help you win this war? Are there no other problems in the country or at the front? Maybe it's better to use these funds for more necessary projects and things? For example, instead of demolishing a monument, can you spend money to buy better equipment for a soldier or buy more first-aid kits?
они такими способами искореняют из населения "русскость", типа они не русские, они украинцы и никакого отношения никогда не имели к русским. Думайте
они этого не сделают. им важнее... личный достаток
Modern Ukraine is a bunch of wimps
They are nazis, what do you expect?
And they even didn't put a statue for Billy Harrington in her place. The petition specifically talked about replacing to his statue... ((
People that want to change or destroy the past are condemned for the future. These aren't just Soviet memorials, they are a symbol of victory over an enemy that wanted to anhiliate an entire people.
True, true. For ill and for good, it's part of History.
are we talking about the soviets here? or did we forget perhaps how many groups of people dissapeared into siberia? not just your precious jews.
@@jayzandstra1830 Soviet people suffering in ww2 doesn't have nothing to do with stalin's massacres. Which is also another thing they have passed through...
The Soviets also tried to annihilate many races: the Cossacks, the Kulaks, the Volga Germans, Georgian Jews and Crimean Tartars.
I just found it really uncomfortable when I was in Berlin that there were memorials to people who fought for this country, especially with the sexual crimes they committed when they were in Germany itself. I understand that the Germans did the same on Soviet soil but two wrongs does not make a right.
I don't think these statues should be destroyed, but they should definitely be marked with signs showing some background of the Soviet crimes.
@nickbell4984 The horrible crimes committed by a few don't need to destroy the legacy and cause that millions died fighting for.
Because if we follow this logic, the Americans and British and practically everyone else are also included. Remember that Even in germany not everyone else was a war criminal...
As a historian student, seeing the past to be removed and destroyed because modern politics hurts my heart and me deeper than I could say in words.
Just like the saying, "those who ignore history are bound to repeat it"
It's sad and pathetic, really
Same, absolutely bloody same.
@@HeadsetHatGuy you are absolutely right. Look at the UKRONAtzeez/Banderovites they are destroying Soviet structures and turning into a Ne0naтzee nation who idolises People like Stepan Bandera.
@@HeadsetHatGuy soviet history was kinda awesome tho
If you study history, you should know about the horrors committed by the Soviet regime.
germans like culture they even protect roman architecture
Germans like every culture except their own. Because it's bad to like your own culture.
Genau!
They protect every culture but their own
@@brandoasan5639 I made this same comment under this comment and it was deleted. I hope yours remains.
Truth hurts.
@@alexanderrahl482 are you German by chance? Anyways I also hope it remains. It seems like many Germans at least in my experience in the internet don’t seem to know much about the imperial German empire or they really are against monarchies
It is simple, because the Soviet Union doesn't have anything to do with the actions of the Russian government. Putting down Soviet memorials is disrespectful to those who died in the fight against fascism. These are not only Russians but also Lithuanians, Estonians, Latvians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Moldavians, Georgians, Azerbaijanis, Armenians, Chechens, Dagestanis, Ingush, Cherkessians, Kazkahs, Turkmens, Uzbeks, Kyrgyz, Tajikistan and the many other people groups of the former Soviet Union.
As a Georgian, I couldn't agree more. I personally have huge respect and admiration for the Soviet Union, for managing to defeat such an existential danger to us all, in just the ~15 year downtime it had to industrialize and catch up with the world that had industrialized 70 years ago, just goes to show how quickly they advanced, and also how much they cared for their republics as well, as they brought the same advancement there, too.
@@NickAndriadze top stalin of all time
The USSR was an empire who committed genocides and murders in the states that then topple soviet trash.
Indeed. To cite an example: everyone has heard about "Pavlov's House", but almost no one knows: out of the 24 defenders, only 10 were Russian, the rest came from various other nationalities of the USSR. There was an anti-tank rifle section which took part in the defense of the house, under the command of senior sergeant Sobgayda, and the section had no ethnic Russians in it, as his deputy, corporal Ramazanov was a Tatar, and privates Yakimenko, Murzaev, Turgunov and Turdyev were Ukrainian, Kazakh, Uzbek and Tajik, respectively. One can imagine how diverse was the Red Army if such a small unit like the group of soldiers defending the house came from 9 different nationalities.
All the ukrainian, latvian, lithuanian, estonian soldiers/partisans really died and had their statues destroyed because of russia invading ukraine
As someone from former Ussr state, I have enormous respect for Germany. They choose respect and not destruction, they are a truly amazing nation.
This "amazing" nation rejected nuclear enegy. Nuff said.
As a german id like to have them stay, just like the imperial german monuments. Heck im even against removing old bells with the swastika.
Its part of our history, they should be preserved
Exactly! They offer moments for reflection and critical thought. In the UK they are removing statues of people that traded slaves, but in the decades to come this will only disconnect the youth from their history and their peoples role in it. It's absolutely backwards and stupid!
true, despite what the swastika was being used for in the 1930s too 1945, it's preserving history, doesn't mean i glorify it, i'm a Marxist, i'm against Fascism
But Imperial monuments are getting partly removed
@@Your_Eagle_Onewhy though? It's literally German heritage
@ Ask the City of Hamburg
Спасибо немцам, что чтут память наших солдат
No thats just a coverup, Germans are raised on the guilt pride doctrine thats why they’re progressively trying everything they can to be perceived as anti-fascist ,also thats why they’re are hardcore pro-zionism , basically trying to brainwash the world of their fast
Wir ehren gar nichts, außer uns selbst! Irgendwann werden wir uns diesen Schandmalen entledigen!
@@Alberto-Almano Natürlich haben auch die Sowjets Verbrechen begangen, aber deshalb die Gedenkstätten für Soldaten die gegen eines der schlimmsten Regimes aller Zeiten gekämpft haben als Schandmale zu bezeichnen, ist echt respektlos. Außerdem klingt da meiner Meinung nach mit, dass es eine Schande war den Zweiten Weltkrieg verloren zu haben, was ja wohl die Höhe ist. Ich will noch sagen, dass das nicht die Meinung aller Deutschen ist und dass es Leute wie Sie sind die Deutschland einen schlechten Ruf geben.
@@Alberto-Almano okay bro? maybe you need a doctor
@@Alberto-AlmanoБерлин снова будет разделен
Great respect from Russia to our German friends for this, it really shows the soul of the German people. Even now, when politicians are shouting that we are enemies, we are still friends. Our peoples will overcome this and once again we will stand for one thing, for a bright future for all of us.
Will never be friends until russia quits their militaristic rethoric and attitude
Ihr seid nicht unsere Freunde und das wart es noch nie! Wir deutschen werden unseren Stolz zurückbekommen und diese Relikte aus unserem Land entfernen.
As a german, I have to say that I'm not a friend of Russia. I however also have to say that dismantling these monuments in Germany would be inacceptable, because they were (mostly) built to commemorate the soldiers who fought against one of the most evil regimes in history, which was germany, and not to glorify the atrocities commited by the soviet union or Russia today. In other countries it is different, because there the soviets might have liberated them from the germans, but they also suppressed them and their culture and killed many.
I used to live in Ukraine for 6 years. There was a war memorial of the red army with a t-34 tank on it. For years when using public transport people would say, “please stop at the tank” but after the start of war with Russia the mayor got rid of that tank citing patriotism. Really sad initiative given the city is littered with places where soldiers have fallen for their motherland. Ukrainian government however are erasing their glorious past.
Всё больше и больше памятников наших прадедов пропадают..... А это ведь наша история, наше прошлое, время когда мы все вместе остановили нацизм в Европе и спасли мир, а политика нас только разделяет.... Мы славяне братья же, а запад этого не понимают, они не знают наши традиции, вот и называют нас вандалами, по этому только советский союз и его народ выйграли в войне, никто иначе
Ukranian turned into Azov ideology. That's why.
@@VitalikZ-yz5qw Without the western allies the Soviets would have lost. Lend Lease allowed the soviets to wage modern warfare.
They're not erasing their glorious past. The past is still there. Why would they want to have a memorial for a country that is invading them?
Holodomor
Not all Soviet soldiers are good nor are they bad, they are of mixed origins, ukrainians, belorussians, russians, predominantly with hundreds more and smaller minorities, for what it's worth preserving these memorials not only memorialise the sacrifices of these men but also to remind the German nation of it's painful past and trespasses, remind its people of the millions of young germans who went to war never to be seen and only to be forgotten in the vast expanses of the Russian steppes in a futile attempt to win glory for a leader who only care about revenge and ideological fanaticism.
But they were all servants of a criminal regime. Perhaps not all of them deserved punishment, but everyone does not deserved to be honored.
@@Zeltace-t8o It's a reminder, like a scar that remind you not to throw knifes around
One thing that a lot of people tend to forget is there was also a large number of Asians in the Soviet military. Especially from the perspective of the Germans, the far eastern part of the Soviet union. Unfortunately, though these individuals are almost never represented in any forms of media. In fact, I think the only time I ever saw, an individual of Asian lineage depicted in a thing centered on the Soviets was in the Netflix short film, love death and robots called the secret war.
@@Zeltace-t8o what the hell kind of “criminal regime” are you talking about?
@@Antibot01 About Soviets.
For some reason people think that Soviet Union was only Russia, but at the moment of USSR colapse there was : 148m russians, 51m ukrainians, 10,3m belorusians, 20,3m uzbeks, 16,7m kazakhs and 40m of other nationalities, from 1 to 7m , nearly half of the population was not russian, and the glory for victory is not solitary on the russians. By removing such monuments they show no respect to their parents, grandparents and other relatieves, who fought for the whole USSR and their republics during 1941-45 and even other times...
Every bit of the Soviet Union was once part of the Russian Empire, not including Warsaw Pact countries of course. so all those nationalities you speak of also served under the Czars of Russia and people back then just called it the Russian Empire!
@@thomaskalbfus2005 yes! And half of the nations which lived in USSR were not a thing in Empire, USSR was not great, AND I MEAN IT, but they gave every autonomy they could give.
bro where did you get those numbers from hahahah?
@Xansey Ukraine was part of the Russian Empire and so were all the other Soviet Republics. The only difference between the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union was the overthrow of the Czars and the replacement of them by the Communist government.
@@Pietroszz google??
The Soviet war memorial park in Berlin is well worth a visit, it's very impressive.
@@uschurch For the people who are grateful to the liberation of Europe from Nazism
Impressive how it stands as an arrogant self-aggrandizement by a marauding bunch of raping apes.
And ugly
Now you have Russians Holding pro Russian protests there.
They need to leave their country to protest in the first place.
A memorial for rapists
"Uncover your head! Here are Soviet soldiers, heroes from the great war 1941-1945 laid to eternal rest. A grateful humanity never forgets their brave deeds"
Something about this in particular is extremely saddening. I will occasionally come back to this video just to hear it
Lmao ruskies claiming war started in 1941, forgetting how they invaded Poland alongside Germany in 1939.
@ hey buddy the war between Germany and the USSR took place between June 22 1941 to may 7 1945
@@Kapik1081 Nobody cares about Poland.
@@Kapik1081 Just returning lands, that was taken by poles in Soviet-Poland war 1919-1921, kek.
@@Kapik1081
what else do you expect from rus ?
This was a completely different time. The soldiers who died for a different cause, they where hero’s in their own right. How can you compare what modern day Russia has done and ultimately deface these men’s graves. The men who died in ww2 have nothing to do with this conflict.
It is a shame to see the current conflict being used as a means of erasing Soviet history, especially in regard to memorials to the Soviet role in WWII.
We should not forget, that Stalin went along with Hitler to swallow Poland, not to mention katyn.
@@m.r.3912 the MR pact was to to buy the Soviets time before the inevitable Nazi invasion. Anyone with even a cursory understanding of Soviet history knows this. Stalin was obsessed with building the productive forces of the USSR since the 1920s in order to defeat the future attack from the west that he accurately foresaw.
Many soviet soldiers where ukranians, so the memorials should be respected.
RedPen, this is the official declaration by which the Soviet Union explained this pact after the war. Accordingly, Stalin would have been a genius who foresaw everything exactly. However, the almost complete obliteration of the Soviet officers' chorus as part of the Stalinist purges does not fit in with this. The filling of officer posts with inexperienced newcomers already caused great chaos and high losses during the attempted Soviet invasion of Finland in 1939 and even more when the German invasion took place. Even today historians still argue about the real reasons for the pact between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany. In any case, the USSR aggressively attempted to incorporate the countries promised to it as areas of influence in the secret additional protocol of the pact and also massively supported the German blitzkrieg with supplies of raw materials...until they were attacked themselves.
As Russian, I respect this effort. I hope there can be peace. And for those who wants to remove soviet memorials - Ukraine was an important part of USSR. It was their sacrifice too.
My personal philosophy is that all historical sites and memorials should be preserved.
Agreed
Especially the fascist ones
Except the Nazi ones right? Lol
@@jdools4744
I guess that would depend on the one.
@@khalidshubbar6911 Alright so not *ALL* historical sites after all
i think a lot of people tend to forget that ukraine was also part of the ussr, and when you tear down soviet war memorials, you also spit on the legacy of the ukrainians that served in the red army
Not only a part, but the second biggest part of it
What a joke, the Holodomor happened less than a quarter decade before the war. Ukraine was dragged along into WW2 as a meat shield. It is the ghost of the USSR that is the cause of the current war and there is nothing you can do to change this fact.
they used it under the name of Nationalism and called that all Ukranian who died for USSR is a traitor. Same goes for Poland and so on. Most notice example is Konstantin Rokossovsky.
@@potomskazhu second lmost populous, i think kazakhstan was bigger land wise
Even disrespecting the Russian soldiers who died in the Battle of Berlin is wrong. They have nothing to do with today's war.
Потому что немцы
А) не глупы.
Они понимают, что в составе СССР были не только русские, но и другие нации. Сейчас многие страны рушат памятники СССР из-за войны, но это тупейшее решение, потому что фактически эти страны рушат памятники не только российским солдатам, но и украинцев, белорусов и так далее.
Б) немцы понимающая нация, благодарная. Они понимают, что ссср освободил их от нацизма, что является худшим кошмаром. Настоящий немецкий патриот не тот, кто во время ВМВ пошёл сражаться за германию, а тот, кто стал антифашистом. Хотя на самом деле особого выбора тогда не было. Ты либо идёшь воевать, либо тебя убьют. На самом деле обычные немцы не хотели воевать на стороне психа антисемита
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Они их рушили ещё с 90-х, когда каждый пытался максимально очернить Советский союз дабы снискать большее снисхождение со стороны "западных коллег". Люди были готовы плевать на собственную историю, лишь бы великий западноевропейский пан благословил их жалкую страну.
Как сказать, не хотели, реваншизм, разжигание ненависти, шовинизм, это все и сейчас в деле
Ну типа вот если бы они рушили памятняки только русским солдатам, сражавшимся с 3 рейхом, то это была бы норма? Советские солдаты вообще какое отношение имеют к текущим печальным событиям?
@@argun4149 Это была бы не норма конечно, но по их логике это логично. Но не по моей
Сейчас к сожалению отменяют все русское: даже писателей, которые родились несколько веков назад
People forget that these memorials are for remembering the Soviet Union.
Russia isn't the Soviet Union.
Honestly, the world went on a downward whirl since 1998. Not saying USSR has better government, but it was a healthy competition for the people of 2 countries.
Yes it is, just like the Holy Roman Empire is Germany! Its the same country, just with a different name.
@@minmean3016 I don't know about that, I think China is better competition than the Soviet Union ever was!
@@thomaskalbfus2005The Holy Roman Empire was a federation of different German countries. Germany is the descendant of Prussia. They are two completely different political entities. Of course they are connected but saying they are the same is ridiculous.
@@thomaskalbfus2005that’s just not true look at what happened in the Cold War you really think China at its current state could pull that off? china’s military and global influence is no where near as strong though economically they are better than the USSR however China is dealing with economic issues and an aging population these problems will probably stop them from becoming a superpower keep them as just a great power though who knows what’ll happen
Those who ignore history are bound to repeat it. I understand the reason for keeping the memorials.
Oh yes definitely keep all the Hitler statues standing too. You're so smart bro !!!!
@@affordablecareactof how can you compare memorials for the Red Army, to Hitler?
@@powa6243 Because they're just as bad and collaborated on partitioning Poland before it became inconvenient to remain allies?
@@affordablecareactof Who mentioned the German dictator? Nobody here. Why write his name with a capital "h"? Are you a supporter?
@@SpaceMarine500 I know that they partitioned Poland with the Wehrmacht. I know that they committed brutal war crimes in certain places at certain times, and a million other things. I understand. but, you have to understand that the Western Allies had done the same kinds of things as well (we're talking bombing raids that caused significant civilian casualties, internment of Japanese-Americans in concentration camps in America, war crimes done as well especially in western Europe etc.).
Not only that, but just because of these things happening, doesn't take away from the fact that the Red Army had played a very significant role in the eventual defeat of both the European Axis and the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere and bravely fought against them. Some even say that WW2 could've ended in an Axis victory if it wasn't for the very stupid decision of invading the USSR, which brought them into the war alongside the allies.
Don’t forget: Soviet heroes were not only Russian. They were Kazakh, Buryat, Estonian, Saha, Chechen, Georgian, Kyrgyz, Uzbek, Tatar, Ukrainian, Belarusian, Azerbaijani, Armenian, Moldovan, Uyghur, and many others. When you allow yourself to disrespect monuments of the Great Patriotic War because they are “Russian” or “Soviet” or whatever your propaganda says, remember this: Soviet people were a united front of many nations. By disrespecting these monuments, you disrespect the heroes of those nations and forget the history they fought for.
Many in the West now say Soviets and Germans were allies. How ignorant! We lost 25 million people fighting this war against the so-called “allies.” This devastation wasn’t because of Stalin, as Westerners like to say, but because the Nazis waged a War of Annihilation in Eastern Europe, especially against the USSR. Nazi didn’t only hate Jews; they hated Gypsies, Slavic people, and Communists.
Soviet heros were tyranical mass murderers
@@dogman4422Like german soldiers were any better lol
What ethnic group was predominant in the ussr? East Slavs. And who are the East Slavs? Russians,Ukrainians and Belarusians
@Kodiakengineer so should their sacrifices be devalued just because they are not Slavs? In my family, everyone fought in the war except my grandmother, and that was only because she was a child. Should we forget their heroic deeds just because they belonged to a different nationality? No. They were citizens of the Soviet Union, where everyone was equal, and thus monuments to heroes also honor them.
Yakuts were excellent snipers, and radio operators were often selected from minorities to make intercepted messages harder to understand. Many children across the Soviet Union were evacuated to Central Asia and placed in families during the war, while orphans were raised as their own. Meanwhile, the entire country, regardless of nationality, worked tirelessly to support the front-from adults to children-especially in the republics.
I would also like to remind you that in the Soviet Union, there were no fewer Turkic peoples than Slavs. Tatars, Yakuts, Bashkirs, Kumyks, etc and all of Central Asian republics consist of Turkic peoples. Therefore, your statement is inaccurate.
@@Red-b6x no but fact is the majority of people who died were Slavs since Slavs were the primary ethic group associated with the ussr. Others did suffer aswell but the Slavic culture suffered more
I had the chance to visit most of them. They should be preserved at all costs.
Well it's simple, because they're amazing and unlike some _Barbarians_ I'm aware of, they have respect for history! They absolutely despise their Nazi past and for all the right reasons, and yet you can find real Luftwaffe planes with their original Swastikas in their museums, that's insanely respectable for me.
Anyways, this mentality of spitting on the legacy of the Soviet Union for what a radically different, modern _Russia_ is doing, is absolutely disgusting to me. In Georgia, my home country, I once visited a huge, absolutely beautiful Soviet memorial, hidden in a forested area and on a hill. It's extremely hard to get to, and you have to deliberately travel dozens of kilometres to get to and visit it, _and yet it was defaced,_ I assume by the members of the radical nazist anti-soviet party of Georgia. So some jobless, soulless vandal, with zero respect for history, was informed and determined enough to spend an entire day to go take power tools and paint up a mountain to destroy a statue of a _CRYING MOTHER MOURNING HER DEAD SON!_ This has to be the most evil thing one can do in their ''life,'' and unfortunately, that's very akin to what people like Ukrainians and Estonians are doing, foolishly unaware of how much they are disrespecting THEIR OWN history.
Estonians were illegally occupied by Soviet Nazis in 1940, so it's NOT THEIR history.
Estonians were occupied by Soviet-N@zi Union in 1940, so it's NOT THEIR history
@@Alexander-t97l occupied ? Do you know by the constitution of the Soviet union , every republic is equal and it has the abilities to declare independence if they want to
@@lamngocanhanh The Soviet "constitution" was no worth of a paper on which it was printed, it was only suitable as a toilet paper. Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania were not "republics" but colonies of Soviet Empire.
@@Alexander-t97l they are equal republics in the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union at that time is even more democratic than the gornverment of those Baltic states, which are nothing but a bunch of pro-facists.
Simple answer: Germans have brains
*lack
you clearly don't live in germany
Germany knows how to properly learn from history and never repeat it. Also it's kinda of a moral rule to respect the enemies dead and their families, these people have lives too. Weather they've done good, bad or both. These are people who died for their families, their country, their friends or all the above. Just like the famous quote from Teresa Schneidvind, "We were taught to learn from pain.....We care for our memorials becuase they allow us to learn from the mistakes of past generations." and the famous quote from the Mayor, "This is our history, no matter what is going on in world politics, we have to take care of it, becuase it is apart of us." The same applies everywhere else, yes even the U.S.A. We have done a lot of wrongs these too, especially to other nations who didn't deserve it and to our own.
This is what we called civilizational nation, histories becomes part of that nation whether or not it fits into their narrative, it requires no revisionism
@@uschurch Cowardice?
Do you think the same about Confederate statues?
@@TeikonGom Yes
@@albertp3721 Quite the opposite. Acceptance of a relity greater then yourself. Be inspired to prevent it from repeating it.
The USSR cared nothing for its soldiers. The “memorials” were nothing more than propaganda for local communist village idiots.
NEVER demolish war cemetaries. Bow your head and respect if not the soldier at least the suffering a human being had to endure. Becaue behind each grave is the story of a family grieving for their son, sibling, etc. Have empathy rather than hatred. Even with this small gesture we lay the foundation for a better world.
Some of these aren't even war cemeteries though, they're monuments that exist solely to humiliate Germany and it's people.
In 300 years they will be golf courses.
@@beng4647 in 300 years i'd be surprised if germany existed
In estonia they destroyed Soviet soldiers graves.
@@AlexLewandowski-og1vz Not true.
As "The History Guy" would say, "It's history that deserves to be remembered."
Would you say the same about Nazi monuments?
@@19Szabolcs91 Those were all torn down decades ago.
@douglasstrother6584 And would you call that a mistake?
@@19Szabolcs91yes
Es ist eine Sache der Ehre, ganz einfach
Of which the Soviets have none
@@LeanflareHad… ofc that is totally wrong as well and is an insult to and disrespect to all former USSR member states. You should be ashamed of your historical ignorance!
@@Arsenic71 oh it's an insult to the entire USSR is it? Consider it said twice. I'm really sure all those member states joined by choice.
@@Leanflare You say the Soviets had no honour, clearly that includes all USSR members, right? Or were you trying to bash the Russians?
@@Arsenic71 yes they had absolutely zero honour
If you think about it, when you destroy memorials, depending on what it is, you are desecrating a grave site, despite your ideology, we are all human and the burials and the past of all nations should be remembered and learned from.
These statues are for all the young men who were forced to give their lives in the war. Not the Russian state.
Not 1/2 mile from the Brandenburg Gate is the Soviet memorial from WWII. A fifty foot high statue of a Russian soldier with columns on either side, and T-34 tanks on pedestals on both side. I've been there. Impressive and the Germans leave it alone.
@@uschurch yes we get it, you're mad fascism got defeated. Destroying the statue won't change that reality
@@uschurch Oh, you mean if you were king.
@@thepixelnova1 Countries that were "liberated" by the Soviets just traded one dictator for another. Stop acting like the USSR didn't also commit genocides and human rights violations. They were just as bad as the Nazis.
@@StandTallTx the whole “Soviets and Nazis are the same” is quite literally fascist propaganda attempting to absolve and whitewash the Nazis of their crimes. How can they be the same when after 40 years of Soviet influence the people of Eastern Europe still remain? Had the Nazis won the Slavs, Balts, and other ethnic groups of Eastern Europe would’ve been either enslaved for the German war machine, massacred which was already what was occurring through fascist occupied territory, or forcibly germanized and made to lose their culture. What the Soviets did absolutely was liberation and I struggle to see how you’d disagree with that, why don’t you google generalplan ost if you don’t believe me
@@thepixelnova1 you say that like ussr was a caring and loving regime that totally didn't conduct genocide, ethnic cleansings, mass r@pe, and just overall oppression of poles, baltics, czechs, slovaks, ukrainians, etc.
What matters here is that millions of men dedicated themselves to helping save Europe from fascism. They deserve respect.
And instead, imposed a different type of fascism on Eastern Europe, which none of them voted for.
Ich habe großen Respekt vor diesen Menschen für die Rettung der Geschichte ihrer Nation.
Monuments, honoring sacrifices made to reach peace, crumbling under flags with peace symbols.
Ironic, isn't it.
Lützen is a town, where important historic Events happened. In 1632 there died the swedish King in Battle, 1709 another swedish King conquested saxony in the Nordic War and in 1813 the Battle of Grossgörschen, later of Leipzig took place there. Time ist passing by......
The Treptower Memorial is a must see if you are in Berlin. I have visited it twice and both times I virtually had the place to myself.
They wouldn't let us in on 9th of May, because one of us was wearing a shirt with a small hanmer and sickle on it. Literally insane how they ban soviet symbols on the day of our liberation by the USSR, especially a symbol signifying the alliance of the workers and the peasants, the toiling masses against the landholders and industrials. I'm just kidding, of course the slavers who are condoning genocide in the name of democracy will do all they can to smear and tarnish the glory of past popular movements that toppled thé regimes of their forebearers and make them quiver in their boots at the mere thought of a people on the move
History should not be forgotten. Period.
In Volgograd there is a cemetery of German soldiers that the locals tend to, it is modest admittedly but when one thinks of all the suffering the Nazis brought to Russia it is incredible that there is such a place and that the locals keep and still maintain it speaks to a greater heart than I can ever understand, The Russian people is tough but generous, they only left their memorials while the USA still has military bases.
Not as much as Soviets brought suffering to the world including their own Country and Ukraine....holodomor killed as many people as holocaust in a fraction of the time. All commie monuments need to be removed.
the only reason the Russians left is because of those US bases, dum dum 😂
I just looked up Volgograd on Maps. This place really has lots of beautiful memorials. It feels like this place is a memorial itself. I really would love to visit it by myself, but with current political conflicts it's quite hard. :/ I hope I get to see it one day
Well Russians (IVAN) were ferocious fighters and fighting for their homeland. During a prisoner of war parade after operation Bagration in 1944 in Moscow Red Square the Russian ladies were seen feeling pity for teenaged and injured German soldiers and some openly lamenting"like our boys dragged to fight the war not of their making". War is HELL and Eastern Front of WW2 was worst.
just For those who dont know, wolgograd is stalingrad
I think it's foolish to erase history,how will the younger generations learn their true history if monuments are removed
I feel bad that other German memorials of past German soldiers from ww1 are getting destroyed and disrespected when they fought for the Germans and for the future of generations and did what they thought was the good choice. It is a shame also that the bravery of German soldiers who had to fight in ww2 isn't acknowledged
In what sense should we acknowledge the bravery of Nazi soldiers who fought to invade all of Europe and the USSR?
@@redpen1917 Not Nazis, you are referring to them like they all thought the same. They were people, put there to fight and risk their life's. Some did because they had to, some did it because they wanted to serve. But seeing all of them as some kind of "monsters" is utterly ridiculous. Imagine you being sent on the front line, dying one year of service, and your homeland lost the War and everyone would start seeing you as the "bad dude", your own sacrifice would have been a waste. The Nazi regime should be the one hated on, not brave soldiers that did that both me and you would probably have to do in case of a world war 3.
@@InAeternumRomaMater There is no point in talking to western commies. They dont want to acknowledge how the World works.
Memorializing the people who defeated your nation is an act of humility. It is a reflection on the folly of your ancestors' pride. Yes German soldiers were brave and many of them died doing what they thought was right. It's not about them. The statues stand for the moral lessons modern people must learn from those wars.
@@appa609 It is humiliating in a sense but yeah, removing those statues would be bad optics in the international community and go against the reputation Germany wants as a state distanced from nazism as much as possible.
The war in Ukraine did not begin in 2022 as many in the west would believe. It started 8 years prior with a civil war between pro West Ukrainians and Russian Ukrainians. After the installation of the government in Kiev by a political coup in 2014 Russian Ukrainians became 3rd and 4th class citizens in Ukraine. Not only was there a violation to their civil rights but they had also been subject to military assaults in predominately Russian provences within Ukraine.
Let's not forget, US led the coup and NATO trained the AZOV NAZI units used in Eastern Ukraine against ethnic the Russian-Ukraine where over14,000 civilian have been killed.
That is so pro Kremlin proganda. In the Donetsk area the majority chose for to stay with an independent Ukraine after the fall of the Sowjet-Union. Only in Crimea a small majority chose for an independent Ukraine. Even after the Invasion of Russia in 2022 most Ukrainians spoke Russian privately. It became patriotic to speak Ukrainian, it is not forbidden to speak Russian, it is considered unpatriotic at best. Although even in the army Russian is still spoken. Nearly all books in the Ukraine up to 2023 have been written in Russian.
@@jamesomaha5330It started even earlier than that, when NATO broke her promise to expand eastwards „not one inch“. The promise is well-documented, albeit not in writing, but in reports from those involved (Baker, Genscher etc.). The current Russophobia in NATO countries is the same as the „red scare“ in the US was.
@@Arsenic71Man stop with the nato expanding eastwards Putin bullshit. NATO didn’t ask or force anyone in. Post Warsaw Pact nations applied for membership to protect themselves from another 45 years of russian occupation ffs
There were even talks about Russian entry into NATO during Yeltsin but they got mad that NATO didn’t invite them in. It’s NATO protocol that countries have to apply by free will it’s not the other way around so Russia never tried to apply and went their own way.
@Arsenic71 It was promised when east and west Germany were going to be united that Nato would not expend to the former east Germany. And it never has done. There are no Nato sites in former east Germany. Gorbachev said this in interviews and has written this in his memoires
Also Russia never objected when Poland became a Nato member did it? Certainly Russia objected when other former Warsaw pact countries applied for Nato status and received it. But why it never bothered to ask itself why those countries preferred Nato status? Russia was heavily dependent of western financial aid at that period of time thus swallowed it objections. The truth lies in the fact that many former Warsaw pact countries feared the Russian influence. Many Polish say that ww2 really ended when Russia and its influence left the country. Safety returned when they were accepted for Nato. Instead of becoming the friendly neighbour Russia became the neighbourhood bully.
In my hometown i regularly visit an old abandoned soviet monument just to check that it is okay
To destroy memorials doesnt solve any problems, they are artifacts of the history. To destroy them just means to destroy your history, even if this part of the history wasnt the best one. From the past we can learn, memorials can help with that.
And remember, to destroy thos memorials just mean to spit on the fallen soldiers. Let them rest.
You think we should honor the fallen occupiers?!
@@Zeltace-t8o Yes, they died to fight the Nazis, and anyways, its history, we don't have to honor them, just preserve it. (also a lot of the soldiers who died fighting there were from the other countries of the USSR and not from Russia itself, there were a lot of Poles there too)
@@DrippyPootis And why do you believe that Soviets would be better than Nazi? Both the same...
@@Zeltace-t8o tell me you're a Nazi without telling me you're a Nazi.
@@Antibot01... Just bc he hates Russians and Soviets? Nah fam
They did bad things and to deny that is same as destroying the memorials
The Soviets sacrificed the most during World War II. We need to respect those that made the ultimate sacrifice no matter what side.
Correct - over 25 million war dead.
US sacrificed for war that wasnt theirs
An interesting fact is that there are more monuments of Stalin and Lenin all over the world than in Russia. there are no monuments to Stalin in Russia, and most of them were simply demolished, despite the fact that we won a decisive war under him, he is considered a tyrant who lost many lives of his people
Beacouse he is?
It’s because today’s Russia is a orthodox carist nationalist state.
Thank you for preserving history.
It is really painful for me to realize that many soviet monuments were destroyed all around the Europe. Here in Russia we also have a lot of monuments dedicated to soldiers from Germany, Poland, France and many more who fought and died in WW1 and WW2. There are even monuments dedicated to Greece soldiers who fought in Crimean war in alliance with Russian Empire against England and France. And we and our government take care of these monuments. Sometimes you can see flowers presented to these monuments. No matter what nationality were these soldiers and were these soldiers on the opposite site of the war they are all humans. Here in Crimea we have monuments dedicated to the 3rd reich’s soldiers who fought and died here in 1944.
The US and the EU are to blame for this new Cold War.
The problem of the people is that they tend to be stupid and fall for the emotions instead of looking at the situation from the outside in. At the end we are all manipulated by the government and start to hate each other for some political reasons.
8:22 move it for a new supermarket? What a Disgrace... these arts are valuable no matter what anyone says
They know who the good guys were.
Thank you for this video!
"He who erases History, is dooming his children and grandchildren to re-write it."
They look majestic, that's reason enough for me to keep them.
History ≠ politics, as simple as it can be
Trieste and surrounding towns has memorials commemorating the partisans who fought the German Army in 1944. The partisans were composed of townsmen who fought before Tito,s Yugoslav Partisan Army entered Trieste. The Slovenes' of Triestre once 150,000 are now only 80,000 since 1950 due to Italian economic and racial discrimination and have immigrated to Australia. That was their reward for fighting fascism. As long there are Slovenes in Trieste these memorials will always stand. The difference to Germany is there are and will always be living descendants of the partisans whereas in Germany there are only the statues.
3:45 that's not Swastika that is a hooked cross and in German ‘Hakenkreuz'
Hey buddy, the translation of Hakenkreuz to english is swastika
@@seductive_fishstick8961what? did you use google translate? hakenkreuz literally means hooked cross in German. If you use google translate it WILL say swastika because that's what everyone calls it in english, that doesn't mean it's correct. Swastika is the name of the original symbol in Hindu-Buddhism, and was never officially used by NSDAP to refer to the symbol. For them, it has always been Hakenkreuz.
@@3xc4llibur47 are you retarded?
@@3xc4llibur47that guy probably doesnt know google translate can be editted and not always right
@@Metallic23-l3n true
Can you imagine that we live in a time where population which claims to be "the most civilized" on the planet questions why memorials should be kept?
Can you imagine having a memorial for an army, that purged your people from a fourth of its former territory, committed countless atrocities against your people and occupied a quarter of what is left of your country for almost half a century, in your capital?
I consider this memorial to be a great national insult and if it was up to me it would be demolished tomorrow.
@@mikeisteinmongozwei5434 I wonder who invaded who first and who killed millions of souls in the east first .... also almost all german land lost was given to poland and it was deserved. wWhat do you think they should have keep these diverse ethnic regions after comiting the holocaust and sending death squads in the USSR? Your take is incredebly dumb., go outside and touch grass.
@@mikeisteinmongozwei5434 you're forgetting why this happened. Had the Germans not invaded the Soviet Union and plundered, raped, and massacred it's population that wouldn't have happened to Germany
@@mikeisteinmongozwei5434 and you guys killed 19 million civilians, sent them to labor camps, sold off women and children in brothels, etc etc. You wanted a war of annihilation and you got it.
@Visidox There should be a lot more memorials for German Soldiers in Germany.
he who forget history are doomed to repeat it ,
simple. If everyone removes their statues and Germany is the only one remained with them, in like 50 years time they will act as a tourist attraction.
I really don´t like what Russia is doing right now in Ukraine, but Germany should continue to protect these old soviet memorials, especially the graves.
Because you don't understand stand it. I just came from Russia from the Donbass and heard the truth from its people and Russia is the hero in thus story!
It all started long before a war.
Как же до вас все долго и выборочно доходит, думаю что и про Евромайданы вы не знаете
They are beautiful memorials, soviet statues are amazing
Thanks for the respect, germany
You can remove the Hitler statue and put it in a museum, but the removal of Soviet statues should be banned .
That is a bit hypocritical? No?
@inimene-n7y I am against the destruction of historical works of art but some historical works of art are better kept out of public places for ideological reasons .
Well Hitler killed 70+Million people with the Plan of killing alot more while the soviets stopped that killing
That's what you called responsibility, protecting history because it happen , and served as reminder . If it gone it would erased the past . And denying everything that happen .
This melody at the beginning, what is it called?
The National Anthem of Russia
@@lennardschneider6847 No it's the anthem of the USSR why would they play the anthem of russia in a video about the soviet union. Yeah, I get it they sound the same but just say the ussr not russia
The old Soviet Union anthem.
@@bubbles.mp4 This. Even tho they sound the same. They are completely different, and represent 2 completely different things.
Stop confusion betwen Soviet Union and modern Russia. Many soviet soldiers werent even russians.
Tell that to the ukranians which grandfathers fought against Nazis
@@sandrocosta479 Do you understand english?? Thats what i wrote!!!
@@uschurch oh sod off
@@sandrocosta479read again mf
Russia is a succesor of USSR. There is no confusion. And calm down)
I don't think any piece of history should be erased, no matter what was the political alignment of the builder. Just because history may not fit my own ideology or standards, I'm not going to ignore it.
What's funny is Ukraine doesn't want to say Russia is the sole successor to the USSR. Russia offered to pay off Ukraine's debt which it inherited through Ukrainian SSR, Ukraine refused the offer for this purpose and now is tearing down USSR's statues after Russia's aggression. Lol.
Сносить Лениных они начали задолго до всяких "агрессий". Даже еще до этого их Майдана. Впрочем - у нас, в России, тоже сносят, только тихо и не афишируя. И всякую белогвардейскую сволочь пытаются протолкнуть, но народ сопротивляется (вон, недавно совсем было - пытались повесить памятную табличку Маннергейму. В Ленинграде, который тот блокировал с севера и помогал морить голодом. Долго табличка не провисела, но важен сам факт попытки. А на юге страны пытаются Краснова легализовать, который открыто на службу к Бесноватому перешёл, и всех белоэмигрантов призывал сделать то же самое).
Грустно всё это, блин.
@@TongorBlackHawk Согласен, тоже когда читаю про такое, то недоумеваю, куда вообще всё катится. Монергейм это вообще был эпик фейл, думаю блокадники и их родственники были в шоке. Неужели Европа, в том числе и Россия постепенно придут к фашизму. Декоммунизация идет полным ходом как культурно, так и сносами памятников и тому подобное.
So? Let them tear down what they want to. Why should they celebrate statues that represent leaders who repressed their country?
@thejosh3855 Then who built schools, hospitals, appartments, railroads, metro in the big cities, industrial places, save Ukrainian language and also has free medicine and education? Ukraine was a part of Soviet Union with its minuses and pluses. Soviet Union wasn't a great country but it's wasn't so bad. Ukraine was a part of that but not a colony or vassal.
Россия != СССР.
СССР - это великое государство построенное на лучших идеях человечества 20-го века. Красивая сказка, но сказка победившая фашизм, вторая страна ставшая обладательницей ядерного оружия, и первая страна отправившая человека в космос(не на луну).
Россия - это просто молодая капиталистическая страна, пытающаяся подражать политике США формата 70-80-х годов и внедрившая некоторые элементы плановой экономики в социальной сфере. У неё пока нет никаких исторических достижений, которыми можно было бы гордиться.
Сирию можно считать достижением? Прежде чем мы вмешались, там уже почти победил ИГИЛ.
Моча != Говно
Destroying history should be illegal, even if it represents something bad, theres a reason why its history
Bro the music at the beginning 😭😭😭😭
I think of the Confederate Statues being trashed here in America. I am impressed with Germany it has the strength of character to honor the dead. Merry Christmas to all who fell in war.
Right?
Yep, the Americans should keep up those statues of people that fought for slavery and wanted to keep slaves. 🤣
@@May-ve6sr Yeah simpleton. 86% of the Confederate Soldiers were conscripted (Drafted) against their will to fight for the Confederacy. Most working white males did not want Slavery in the south for one simple fact. Hard to make a living wage when a slave did the labor for free. These are facts no longer taught in school/college anymore. Just bull stuff gas lighting. READ A BOOK!!!!
completely different, the confederates were the american equivalent to facists, before the existance of facism
@@adamelghalmi9771 85% of confederate soldiers were conscripted. The conscripted confederate soldiers were more akin to Vietnam draftees.
can anyone find a full version of the Anthem version at the start of the vid?
Because there will be no retaliation against those who didn’t mess around with monuments.
Является ли мемориалом WWII военная база США Рамштайн? Живые солдаты держат немцев в покорности лучше, чем каменные.
As a Russian, I am grateful to the people of Germany for remembering history, and it is very painful to see what is happening today. In a sense, there will soon be another fact that brings our peoples closer together. Just as young Germans feel "German guilt" for the actions of their ancestors, the same thing will happen in Russia sooner or later, I am sure of it.
Eternal glory to all who fought for freedom and the annihilation of fascism. Your sacrifice will never be forgotten, you you rest in peace.
Sorry but no thank you.
Sovuet Union mass murdered 100+ million innocent:
And they are lying about the geerman mass murdering.
Can you name one country wich get their freedom after they were "liberated" by the Soviet Unionen? I see no diffrence beteween a nazi dictator or a communist dictator.
also eternal suffering for their crimes against humanity
@@simpsbelongtothegulags3702”we have liberated Europe from fascism, but they will never forgive us for it” -Georgy Zhukov
@@seductive_fishstick8961 you know that ussr did it's fair share of murders, cleansings, imperialism, and just overall oppression to the poles, ukrainians, czechs, finns, baltics, etc. right?
How can anyone recognize the Russian Federation of today to that of the Soviet Union? How can so many forget how the collapse of the Soviet Union…which was perpetrated by Yetlson, which used force to get his way, leading to Putin rise in power.
Glory to the red army!
Easy because the Russia Federation acts just like the Soviet Union, they sing the Soviet National Anthem, display Soviet flags and they fight with Soviet Weapons!
@@thomaskalbfus2005what other weapons do you suggest they use? By the way the soviet and Russian anthem are different lyrically but have a similar melody.
The cemetery in my small town in west germany still has the graves of 12 POWs. Their names are in cyrillic but translated those names don't seem to be exclusively russian. They probably came from all over eastern europe.
In the next village over there is also a monument for the local germans who died in the two wars by name.
That is what "Never forget" means.
Interesting fact about "separation of Poland", THE USSR RETURNED ONLY THE TERRITORIES THAT POLAND OCCUPIED FROM THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE DURING THE CIVIL WAR. AND THIS WAS TECHNICALLY THE TERRITORY OF UKRAINE OCCUPIED BY THE POLES.
Ukraine was part of the Russian Empire.
And now Poland are currently helping Ukraine to protect their territory that they once occupied and was brought back to Ukraine by Soviet Union. Oh the irony
@knightcommander5694
The irony is that Poland bought a lot of Ukrainian enterprises and owns a huge part of the ukrainian economy right now. And Poland doesn't give up territorial claims, they just put them off until a convenient moment.
And this is pretty rational of them.
@timelordthemaster buying farmland isn't the same as making territorial claims, but in any case Ukraine and Belarus received a bunch of Polish land after World War II.
@thomaskalbfus2005 it's not a "polish land" it's land populated mostly by Belarus and Ukrainians.
My Belarus friend still has preserved memoirs and photographs from the times of the Polish occupation of the Belarusian land (from his ancestors).🗿
Because this is history, and it shall not be forgotten
Germans seem to be wiser than other Europeans. They know how to preserve their history no matter what their current political stand is. No wonder they were the ones who spearheaded most of the technological and scientific innovations in Europe.
because germany has now been conditiond for self hatred
Shutvit fascist sympathizer
0:49 when the U.S. invaded Iraq or when the U.S. and its attack dog nato destroyed Libya did the remove U.S. statues too.
And when nato was creeping towards Russia’s border did they object to this. The double standard and and hypocrisy is so blatant
The Faschismus is a product from USA!!!
Nahh u didn't have to hit us with the soviet nostalgia at the start
If Germany destroyed the Soviet memorials, what do you think would happen to the German war graves in Russia?
Nothing
Does that matter? Russia does not respect it's own history, why should we respect theirs?
@@Игорьсуздальский exactly.
@@golagiswatchingyou2966 Это с каких пор Россия не уважает свою историю?
27 million Soviet people died because of Fascism. Hands off of the monuments!
Where did you get that number? You know that stalin killed around 9 million Soviets and all togther more civilians than Hitler?
And then the Soviets murdered millions of people in the territories they controlled after.
Anyone willing to lay down their life for their homes deserves remembrance. Whether they be US, British, Soviet, Confederate, or even Nazi. To disgrace what they fought for only makes them and their sacrifice meaningless. To me all soldiers, even those fighting for the losing side laid down their lives for their beliefs, and that deserves respect. If we forget what they fought for, whether it be good or bad then we risk repeating the bad, and losing the values of the good. Remember, the soldiers are people too.
Idk why there removing the statues russia is invading ukraine not the USSR two completely different countries
Russia was the heart and political puppet master of the USSR and pretending otherwise is just being willfully ignorant.
same people though, they speak Russian so they are Russians!
Hmm, when the US invaded Vietnam or Iraq, is there such a question too?
@@nikitashulmin1883 tell me when did USA became a socialist union of many different countires?
@McHallel Do you have to be a socialist state to start wars?
These memorials are more like a reminder of the soviet victory and occupation
only for nazis
& rape & pillage
mad nazi spotted
Its incredible how some people are eager to forget and rewrite the history, like neither the past, nor the future matters.
and its incredible that some people are ready to defend the history at the any cost.
Mothers are not all good or all bad, we can view them differently, but nothing they do, and nothing we see in their doing can not cancel the fact that they are the very reason we have this life.
Because they are cucked beyond belief and so afraid of their own past evils that they would rather glorify others' past evils just to show how much they disawow. It's absolutely pathetic.
Bertolt Brecht sagte: Wer seine Geschichte vergisst, wird sie wiederholen müssen!
So... we live in such a time that we are surprised that someone does not want to destroy monuments (Pieces of history and signs of honor) that glorify the struggle for equality and denounce the horrors of war. We are surprised at this under the fact that the only reason to vandalize monuments and tear them down is because of the actions of the government of the state that is in the place of another state, that installed these monuments 80 years ago. Do we really find nothing weird about it?...
I'm glad Germany didn't destroy their Soviet monuments. It's a shame that Poland today is destroying and erasing their Communist past.
Fascism is very popular in Poland and disrespects the Ludowe Wojsko Polskie Veterans, including my great-grandfather, who joined the Communist side to liberate his country against the Fascists.
Greetings from your Polish Comrade who's living in the UK.
So based Polish people still exist)))
they killed witold pilecki!
im from poland but i dont believe communism is good but we should keep history to remember to not repeat it
Your grandfather was either a traitor or an idiot for siding with the Soviets. They had invaded Poland in the 1920s and went halves on Poland with Germany in 1939 as part of the Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact. Poland fought against Germany to be taken over by a Godless regime which hated both church and nation after Britain cast them aside at the negotiation tables - and Poland was the entire pretext over which Britain started the Second World War and lost its empire for just to give The Soviets a massive swarth of Eastern Europe for its gulag slave industries.
It feels shameful to be a Brit for these reasons, but how embarrassing must it be for a Pole who fought for his oppressors to be rewarded with 70 years of enslavement and repression.
@@thepoetandwit6513 pretty sure in the prl there was long lines for bread and basic needs