Are There Any TRUE AUTO-INCLUDES In Marvel Champions??
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- Опубліковано 17 чер 2023
- Are there any cards you put in every single deck you build? What about cards you use ALMOST every time?
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As someone who plays fairly casually, it is my most played game, but I don’t even own half of the expansions. This is such great content for me to watch and plan my next buys. Thank you!
Oh happy to hear it’s helpful! 😄
Thank YOU for watching!
So glad to hear someone is in the same boat. Definitely my most played game. I own all of the expansions and scenarios (minus The a wrecking Crew), but less than half the heroes. Building decks, especially from marvelcdb can be a little challenging.
Great job. It’s often missed but TBE can play cards out of turn. So they become even better in Multiplayer. Imagine cheating in an avengers mansion on another players turn and giving them the card draw they need to pull off a cool combo
Ooo yeah I definitely didn’t think of that lol. Thanks for pointing that out!
That's awesome, I never realized that this is possible 😎
Wow! Such a great video. You have given me loads of new ideas for cards in decks. I play ALOT of Ironman Protection so adding the Quincarrier is GENIUS! I have never thought about it but now it will be an auto include for my Ironman decks.
My auto include cards? All three double resources, Downtime, Endurance and Under Surveillance
Thanks! Those are all great picks. Downtime has been getting a lot more play from me lately with these new heroes that focus so much on health.
Regarding Quincarrier someone did point out the Ingenuity serves pretty much the same purpose so that’s another way to go!
5:17 new house rule is we now call the card “Mockingbird?” in your honor (ie saying it like it’s a question as you do).
😂😂😂
I have no idea why I said it that way but that’s hilarious lol
Also watched this, and enjoyed it! I’m a sucker for building up and then stomping the villain. So I tend to put 1 Helicarrier and 1 mansion in pretty much every deck. Still haven’t played either LCG, it’s been too long! Great video as always! 👍👏💪😁
Nice! I took a break from the Mansion for a long time and now I feel like I’m playing it in every deck again lol
You’ve been partly to blame for me wanting to bring LotR back to my channel so I hope you get to play it soon! 😁
Some great food for thought! I only think about playing allies with Team-Building Exercise and forget that you can use it for any trait the hero has! I'm already "pre-building" a Psylocke deck (in my mind at least) and hadn't thought of using TBE to make her Psionic cards cheaper.
I never really thought about it til Spider-ham and then I realized how much more it can do for you! And for Psylocke it’s a definite include. Especially since she can recycle her Psionic cards so you’ll have even more targets
Ingenuity with Iron Man has replaced Quincarrier in his decks for me but I often include both.
I am always interested in finding ways/reasons not to include those double resource cards. And when I hero kit has double/triple resource cards built in that’s a game changer. My Hulk rush deck excludes Energy & Genius for Power of Aggression bc he needs the physical resource kicker a lot of times.
Great call with Ingenuity. I almost never play Iron Man so I totally forgot about that lol
Hey! Played a two player game with a friend against wrecking crew yesterday. He proxied the basic player side scheme in, a lot of threat for sure but we cleared it about 40% into the game and those upgrades cooked 🔥. Really fun and can’t wait for it to release!
Happy Father’s Day!
Oh that’s so cool to hear! I do proxy new cards and try them early from time to time but I haven’t actually given this one a shot yet. Glad to hear it was as awesome as hoped!
Happy Father’s Day as well!
In Justice I tend to alway play Clear The Area and Skilled Investigator. I also like The Power In All Of Us if I have some high dollar basics in my deck. Make the call in nearly all my Leadership decks. Hulk in most all Aggression builds. And I love Nightcrawler, Starhawk and Defiance in my protection decks. Nick Fury is probably my most played Ally. Rarely do I include Helicarrier unless I’m playing a S.H.I.E.L.D deck. And, if I’m leaning heavy into an aspect the Power Of cards tend to always find their way in.
Fun Video Josh! Great food for thought.
Those are all great calls! I almost mentioned Hulk, Make the Call, and Clear the Area 👍👍
Also don't forget Thor can use Team-Building Exercise to pay for Aerial Cards as well.
Oh good catch! Didn’t remember that 👍👍
Great video as always. I would love to see you talk about the various archetypes in each aspect. I still consider myself new and I'm always learning new interactions and gameplay styles.
Thanks Isaac! If you haven’t seen it, I went through many of the deck styles when I talked about the aspects during the Change Your Game series: ua-cam.com/video/2EPcofVZENw/v-deo.html
And I’ll also point you to Nelson All Over who has talked about this as well!
Aggression: ua-cam.com/video/nevw6xNPFyE/v-deo.html
Leadership: ua-cam.com/video/JgztN8AlSc4/v-deo.html
Justice: ua-cam.com/video/pENzeP9iLW0/v-deo.html
@@GetUpandGame oh wow i mustve missed the video, i think it came out right before i started playing so i must've never gotten around to watching.
@@ira_zinha there’s a lot at this point so it’s easy to miss! I’m sure there are newer archetypes these days that aren’t included in there so I probably should revisit it at some point anyways 🤔
1 auto-include that I have that you didn't mention is Clarity of Purpose in leadership Captain Marvel, her Hero Ability turns Clarity of purpose into Exhaust -> Draw a card.
Oh nice! I hadn’t considered that 👍👍
Great video and comments around this video! Im adding these to my notes for sure!
This is a topic for another day, but this video gets me wondering how you go about pairing back lists to 40 cards. I always have about 53-72 cards id LIKE to have in my deck. How do you determine what makes the cut?
Thank you kindly as always good sir!
That’s a really good question. I think for me I try to have a sense of if I have enough of everything to cover all my bases, and if there’s anything I feel like I have too much of then I start cutting there. Like if I’m playing a hero that’s already good at minion control, then those cards might get cut first.
Also I don’t always run 3 of everything. If I want a variety of different events then I’ll often just run 2 of each. That helps cut it down as well.
And sometimes things are a little redundant. If I have a lot of effects that are doing very similar things then I pare those down.
I lay out all the cards that definitely need to be in the deck, and then just slowly start peeling away a card here and a card there til I get down to 40. And if I get stuck at 41 or 42 then it’s not the end of the world lol
‘Make the call’ for leadership. It’s basically a wildcard, being any discarded ally in the game.
100%. Make the Call and Clear The Area would’ve been the next 2 to mention for sure
Love your videos, thanks for the great content
Oh thank you so much for the kind words!
Lol you beat me to it!
Haha sorry! I guess we were all thinking about it after X-23 😂
As usual, a very persuasive analysis. You just may be the best at this kind of vid. Thank you!
That’s incredibly kind of you to say, thank you!!
Your conteent on Marvel champions is the best on UA-cam. Thank you for making the game more enjoyable and understandable.
Oh thank you so much for the very kind words! It’s my pleasure to do so ☺️
I would not count trait locked cards as auto includes but instead they are like presents for those heroes!
With so many heroes if you rotate who you play with any regularity then you will play a wide variety of cards.
Hey that’s a nice way of looking at it! 😀
And to be clear, for the trait locked stuff at least I don’t look at auto include as a negative. As you say it’s like fun presents for those heroes! But I’m never not using them so they still count for me 😆
When a hero has the genius trade, I always include that card
Yeah I typically do too, probably could’ve mentioned Ingenuity. Especially for multiplayer where it’s much easier to get to alter ego to get it on the table! For solo I don’t always grab it if I’m playing a hero that might not be able to flip down on demand to play it if needed which is probably why I didn’t think to include it but it’s a great one for sure!
@@GetUpandGame I almost exclusively play Solo. Spider-Man is my favorite Hero to play. I usually run Justice Spidey. Inegenuity is not just an auto-include, but I usually try to find room for a second copy just to find one that much faster. Maybe that's overkill, especially when you consider Quincarrier and Web Shooters, but I just love having all the resources possible as quickly as I can.
@@starwindm8810I often consider running 2 copies of good resource generators so I know what you mean!
Very useful video! Playing in solo or 2 handed, agreeing with all your considerations. I have a "near auto include list" and I search for serious motivations for not add these cards. For example, last week, not included the 3 double resources in a Spider Woman justice/leadership deck focused on SHIELD allies and leadership upgrades.
Thanks! Yeah I’m the same way, even though some cards are so good I just choose not to run things like Ironheart and Nick just for the sake of variety
I really need to play Spiderwoman Shield, still haven’t tried it and it sounds so fun!
@@GetUpandGame thanks for the reply. Routine, expecially when winning is addictive. After more than 275 plays, I start focusing on my least played heroes like Nebula, Thor, Hulk, Nova... That I haven't understood well or they performed suboptimal in true solo.
@@OresteGambasorry I missed this comment!
That’s very true. When you strike on a formula that’s working it feels right to stick to it. That’s a good idea to try to shift your focus to your lesser played heroes!
@@GetUpandGame no problems. With tons of comments, sign that your channel has awesome feedback. I upgraded my MC spreadsheet with an automated graph that shows me least played heroes and win / lose ratio.
@@OresteGamba that’s so cool. I’ve long been kicking myself for not keeping track of what I’ve played so I’m always jealous when I hear other people were smart enough to do that lol
When I separated and bagged up my hero cards I just put Strength, Energy, and Genius in the bags with their hero kits, just because I know I’ll always use them.
I do the same thing! I’ve got a set of the doubles in with all the hero kits, except we don’t have quite enough for a few of the heroes. So poor War Machine, Groot, and Valkyrie don’t get a set in my box 😆
For me that player side scheme is a "must" in all my decks. Not only you can choose the upgrade you need in that moment, also "protect" you from "master plan" treachery. And also that player side scheme does not return to your deck! It is very good for any solo "late" player. 😁 Greetings!
Greetings! I like the way you think! Sounds like we have similar play styles! 😁
If I’m playing a hero or deck focused on readying a lot. Symbiote suit is almost always an include. It shouldn’t be and definitely bites you in the butt sometimes but I can’t resist it. It’s like the shiny do not push buttons 😂
Haha hey I’m right there with you. I use it quite a bit, and I probably could’ve had it as an auto include for me with Nova. I don’t think I ever build a Nova deck without it. Or Spider-ham. Or Wolverine. The list goes on lol. You’re right that it doesn’t always work out but it’s always fun and that’s really all I care about!
@@GetUpandGame oh yeah or quicksilver, spider woman, or hulk/she hulk/ drax with some limitless staminas, what doesn’t kill me/ earths mightiest heroes. If I can find a way to ready a hero, they’re being venomized 😂😂
@@NiceShot318 😂😂😂😂
Thanks!
Thank you so much!!! 🙏
Vision gets to enjoy Father's Day while his daughter takes care of the villain.
Hahaha true! I tend to think it’s always Father’s Day for Vision though 😆
So, me and my friend were playing She-Hulk and Hulk vs Thanos. We were struggling so much with threat, I can tell you specialized training was not an auto-include, because we would just be paying 2 effective resources to have a card sit on the board the rest of the game.
Yeah that’d be tough unless you made the scheme “assault”, or perhaps we’re playing justice. But still then likely 4 ER + however many activations to clear for those 2, that’s a tough one.
Hulks don’t care about training, Hulks smash. Haha.
Haha yep, that’s about as far from an auto-include situation as it gets!
@@CoryLovec14 indeed! 😆
@@CoryLovec14 We were both playing Basic cards only in our hulk decks and it was Expert Thanos.
We eventually switch to both playing aggression. We were both using the Direct approach, but still threat was a struggle we didn't have an extra 10 threat removal to take care of a specialized training. We did manage to beat him with both playing aggression on our 1st try. We were so close to pulling it off with basics only, we just need a little better threat removal in basics and I think we might be able to do it.
@@teraxenice! I love the idea of this challenge and really need to try it sometime 👍👍
My auto include card would have to be Make the Call. It is too good not to use in most leadership decks.
I really should’ve mentioned that! I was trying to stick mostly to cards that didn’t require other non-hero cards to be auto-includes, but really what Leadership decks aren’t running enough allies to make Make The Call not obvious lol
Assess the Situation gets played every time i play Cyclops or Nova
Ooo that’s a good one. I do really like Assess with Nova, and that’s a great idea with Cyclops!
Energy, Genius, and Strength are auto include for me. Maybe they shouldn't be. Now you got me thinking.
Ha well they really should be the vast majority of the time. Even if you only put cheap cards in, the vast majority of heroes have enough 2+ cost cards in their kits along to justify them. Drax probably has the lowest cost curve in the game so he can get away with it, but other than him and some rare cases they should be in there.
I don’t know if you’ve ever done this, but I’ve accidentally left the doubles out of decks before and it was very noticeable lol
What’s with the spider? 🙀
Ain’t nobody got time for that!
Haha sorry about that. It’s a funny meme to call spiders “nopes” these days (as in Nope, don’t want anything to do with that!) so when I wanted to use the word “nope” that’s what came to mind. Someone else pointed out that’s a very common phobia for folks, and I just wasn’t thinking about that. Sorry if it caused any distress 😞
As someone who almost exclusively plays multiplayer, you're takes are always interesting to me
Lol yeah, it’s amazing how differently valued certain cards are between solo and multiplayer (especially 4 players). I’d like to presents a more balanced perspective between the 2 but since I know solo so much better I figure it’s best to just stay in my lane 😅. I try to mention the more obvious ones for Mp when they come to mind, but unfortunately they don’t always come to mind 😆
Endurance is also an auto-include for Wolverine IMHO. 3 resources for 1. 😉
For sure! Somehow I totally blanked on Logan there 👍🤪
Go For Champions! was the most hilarious. It took nerfing it to make you think it is an auto-include, because pre-nerf it was just too good and you felt dirty for playing it.
So, a card CAN be too good to be an auto-include.
Lol I know, probably a weird take, but for me at least it’s true. GfC was, as you say, a little too good, and I certainly don’t begrudge anyone for using it, but after a few times I just started leaving it out. But now I wanna play it again!
Clear the Area and Relentless Assault are almost auto-includes to me
Yeah those two came really close to making it into the video!
God Surprise Attack just reminds me and infuriates me that Daredevil still somehow isn't a playable hero in this game.
Ha right? It’s interesting that they decided to wait so very long to include one of Marvel’s most popular characters. I guess they wanted to make sure they still had some heavy hitters for later in the game’s life maybe?
@@GetUpandGame Yea I just hope Defender's is up next after these X cycles.
@@Bumbum_Inspector I really hope so too, but for some reason I have a sneaking suspicion it’ll be Fantastic 4 first 😕
@@GetUpandGame Yeah, it's a toss up. Daredevil: Born Again comes out in 2024 though... and Fantastic Four isn't until 2025. So if they go for synergy with the MCU, us Daredevil fans might finally be lucky.
@@canadianmustash here’s hoping! They always insist that doesn’t factor in but I dunno lol. Seems silly not to take advantage
Thinking about how much it costs to get all of the high-priority cards, especially when only 1 of a card comes in a pack and 3 of them are used in a deck. 🤔 EDIT - GetUpAndGame correctly pointed out that you DO get 3 of the relevant card in the pack. Thanks!
For any card that you’re allowed to use 3 of the pack should come with all 3. The only time (I can think of anyway) they only give you
1 is if it’s Unique!
@@GetUpandGame Thanks for the reply! The cards I'm thinking aren't so much "autoinclude in every deck", more "autoinclude 3 in certain decks". Not sure about The Rise of Red Skull; don't know if it gives 3 x Clear the Area, but I think the character packs only give 1 of each of the cards mentioned. Also, there's other cards that could run 3 of; following list is just sample of what I'm thinking.
Captain America: Strength in Numbers
Dr. Strange: Desperate Defense
Wasp: Into the Fray
The Rise of Red Skull: Clear the Area
@@aardvarkpepper7660 yep! You’ll get 3 copies of all of those cards in those packs! 😀
@@GetUpandGame I checked and yes, you're right! 🤔 I remembered wrong.
Dude, a quick tip. Don't jam photos of common phobias like spiders into your Super Hero video. Not cool.
Oh my gosh I didn’t even think of that, I’m so sorry. When I think of the word “nope” i think spiders because of the meme which is why I did that, but I hadn’t thought of it being a trigger for some. Apologies 😞
@@GetUpandGame I wouldn't have thought of that either 😬