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- Опубліковано 28 лют 2021
- Topics include Anthony not giving enough 10s and his taste in flannels being bland.
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without my degree in music theory, i would never know what "trap influences" means
LMFAOOO
skittering hi hats :)))
@@erebusreact0r and those 808's
"rattling hi-hats, and those pounding 808s"
It's an offensive term that means it was influenced by trans women, right?
Anthony is a coward for not wearing the infinity flannel he got from Cal.
Facts
What review was that? Im new to this religion 😐
@@bobjoe3044 the big day
A bloody scoundrel
Oykgya%dkg
I don't really understand that second one, he literally never talks about music theory lmao
Yeah he literally made a video called why I don’t mention music theory in my reviews
I feel like the person probably meant sound engineering and didn't even know what they didn't know how to talk about, since Anthony will drop basic terms related to production sometimes (i.e. compression, envelope, etc.)
You have to remember regular people aren’t music nerds & know almost nothing about music so even basic terminology about song structure or mixing on can sound foreign/intimidating, & the term “music theory” doesn’t have much of a specific meaning besides “any music discussion that goes beyond saying ‘I like the beat of this song’ or ‘this singer has a good voice’.“
He meant like using simple terms like corny, edgy, etc. versus more sophisticated terms
Even if it was true, looking up things for yourself is more rewarding than getting them explained to you, most of the time anyways. Imo.
LET'S AGREE: Fantano should wear kilts in his reviews and film below the waist instead of above
Lol
Peepee focused review?
Wut
thigh cam!!!1!11!!!
"Let's argue about me"
Anthony in a relationship
Ohh that's good
He’s married lmao
Yeah, the sex? It was uh... NOT GOOD
@@paulb6884 That's a relationship too
U know when he’s gonna argue with his wife cause he’ll have the red flannel
The fact that he listens to a lot of music explains why he doesn’t give a lot of 10s.
A lot of people are also used to using the "1 if you hate it" or "10 if you love it" rating you see in every fan score in rating sites, so they want Anthony to reproduce their stupidity
@@Bojoschannel I don't even think I've heard a ten. I've heard plenty of 7s and 8s (some 9s too), but I don't know what it takes for an album to deserve a "perfect" score
Anthony said that “Who Will Cut Our Hair When We Are Gone,” was a 10 on a Let’s Argue and I’ll make sure every man, women, and child knows that.
This applies to any art. Most mainstream gaming journalists never practiced this hesitance, so you can look back and see a lot of overhyped games that got 10s despite not being perfect in any way.
@@davidcazares7441 i believe a 10 is a really subjective thing, of course first of all it has to be really good, but some things will resonate more with some people and in different ways. In my personal experience some of the albums i consider 10's are actually flawed and not perfect, but something about them just clicks with me, it's because they are imperfect in one way or another that they are perfect for me.
3:04 Ah yes, I hate when Anthony says things like *"Kendrick's Partita no 27 in Gb minor, 3rd movement, allegretto, BWV 947 is a mild 7"*
This comment is sublime
@@the.seagull.35 No, that would be an American reggae rock and ska punk band from Long Beach, California, formed in 1988.
do NOT change "best teeth in the game", it is the most powerful sentence
LET'S AGREE: A new interview with Nardwuar sounds like a neat idea.
@Miasma key word: "new"
I.... agree
LET'S ARGUE: my profile picture is better than yours
Your a genius
Nardwuar picks you. Respect the God.
Let's argue: your bass tone is too clean, I wanna hear some nasty feedback and distortion next time.
Shoegaze intro when
yes
Distortion on bass guitar isn’t used enough in rock music.
look up taiga. it's a drum + bass noise project he had years ago with tons of distortion, tapping and all kinds of crazy shit. it's on youtube
It is normal in Rock and funk
Hearing a buffed-up Fantano refer to the most suicidal period of my life as "The Slamdemic" made living through it totally worth it.
F
Hope you get through it man
Love you man
Theres some light at the end of the tunnel now, I hope
Big love man
I'm glad he don't give 10s away so easily, really makes those few stand out as excellent music
Which ones has he given 10s too?? I wanna go back and watch those
Which is fucking weird because those dont sound like 10s. I mean kendricks butterfly is fucking awesome but like kids see ghosts isnt a 10!
@Aakash also You Won' Get What You Want
@@greaser3069 it is, you just couldn’t feel the love
@@basshp6292 there's a video on it I'm pretty sure
Fantano barely if ever mentions music theory in his videos lol
SHHH Dont mention music theory, the "art is entirely subjective" crowd will come for you
@@dungeon-wn4gw but it is tho
@@dungeon-wn4gw but it is, sorry.
Also op, I think the guy in the tweet might be talking about some stuff about structure or time signature, as fantano mentions those two a lot. I mean, if you don't know what a bridge is, then you might get a little lost with what he's saying sometimes
@@laatupoika8977
I believe you can have both a subjective conversation about a piece of art, as well as an objective conversation about art. See, you can have it both ways. Its not entirely one or the other. We should just always try not to mix both conversations together.
He’s not Ben Shapiro’s dad
Let's agree: Melon's personality and content are both great
Nothing to agrue seems more like a fact to me.
Toooooooo a cerrrrtian exxxxtent
@@karlkeiderling9233 lol what extent?
@@owl2671
Anthony does kinda bully people. Check his twitter.
@@owl2671 they're a lot of singers and songwriters he unjustly puts down. And what he says means something.
can't believe you killed jazz snobs and angsty 17 year olds in the span of one video
I feel like he has 2 completely different fanbases, theres people like me and others who love music and love to debate albums in a fun but respectful way, then theres his twtich chat who sound like they have all been dropped on their head in unison as babies
I'm sorry but it is scientifically proven that as soon as you enter a twitch chat all of your brain cells deactivate, that's Jeff Bezos new mind controlling device.
>unison
Whoa chill buddy with the music theory shit, we didn’t all take jazz science
That is every twitch chat tho
@@tsg_frank5829 77s7
Let’s Agree: Melon needs to put more bass focused content on the channel
"Playing bass WITH A FIDGET SPINNER??? 100% real"
@@gckbowers411 (Gone wrong) (Gone sexual)
@@yeanah2571 (IN DA HOOD) (SHOTS FIRED)
@@limydread (police called) (white privilege activated)
@@gckbowers411( Card giveaway) (not clickbait)
let’s argue: that bass intro slapped harder than usual
Let's Agree
Wtf
Didn't know fantano recorded the earthbound ost 🔥
I always skip that
@@Remolizzo you're missing out
Anthony's straight up spitting bars at 5:00
Ended Eminem OMG
"ca. 2012" is short for "circa 2012", not California you silly melon
Let's Argue: Giving MBDTF a 6 a second time was the greatest artistic statement Fantano has ever made.
Yes
100%
Didn't he give it a 5/10 in the second review?
@@FortunatoAcosta strong 5 to light 6, and I agree with that score!
It’s this generations Dylan going electric
Proposal:
The colorful flannel is worn when reviewing a quality first project from a young artist.
yes😍
I like this a lot.
I second this
Yes
10:44 The Caretaker - I feel as if I might be vanishing
11:19 The Caretaker - Camaraderie at arms length
FANTANO EVERYWHERE AT THE END OF TIME REVIEW
Of course Flanagan had to use underground songs from the Caretaker, his hipster soul couldn't use the mainstream
Let’s agree: melon needs to drop an instrumental bass album
With some trap influences.
@@hardcorespatula it should be modal
@@creamcannon825 and should have other instruments on it
No...only bass.
Let’s agree: Melon’s Twitch chat is horrendous
everybody agrees 👍
I disagree
100%...I thought youtube comments could be annoying.. then i went to his twitch
ah i see you are also a man of culture as well. dat ame pic lul
absolutely, without dispute
i thought the name “the needle drop” was obvious as to what it’s referring to
drug addiction and how to give it up
@@Baloonboy105yt LMFAOO
@@Baloonboy105yt 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Baloonboy105yt Facts
@@Baloonboy105yt i always thought of it as more referring to a drop of said drug, right on the pointy end of the needle, that's what Fantano is to us.
I feel like people who say "you overplay how much people disagree with with you" have literally never read any comments on any fantano video ever, not even once.
LETS AGREE: Melon’s bass intros are NOT BAD.
LET'S ARGUE: This was Anthony's most ambitious bass intro yet.
Bass is so hottt
Yeah because he got the official feature on a song, he's getting cocky now
nothing to argue about there
a bold claim, but I
A G R E E
@@bruhmomentseverywhere what song??
Let’s argue, Anthony Fantano is actually not a melon but a grapefruit
Prove it!
Tingis Pingis
I 100% agree with you, Tingis
pomelon
no
giving something a "perfect" score should be scarce. most media you consume, visual and auditory, is more than likely just going to be average with it being sometimes terrible, and sometimes amazing. and even when its amazing it's still rarely approaching perfect. the fact anybody would expect perfect scores given out more often just reads to me like somebody who (not to sound like a pretentious snob) doesn't actually like analyzing what they listen to but rather passively consumes content.
not to say you necessarily need to deeply analyze everything you consume, I certainly don't, but that kind of mindset doesn't even seem to consider that you should maybe think about why you like something and the nuances of the media you consume. just seems to me like somebody misunderstanding what goes into analysis and reviews.
"Perfect" is a meaningless term.
I've been a fan since 2013 and I have discovered SO many artists that I never would have come across had it not been for your videos. I don't always agree with your assessments but you present them in an articulate and intelligent way and I'm almost always interested in listening to a record that you review. I'm glad that you enjoy what you're doing, and I hope you keep enjoying it for a long time.
Fantano's music theory language which goes over everyone's heads:
- Cut
- Record
- Guitar
- Tran
- Sition
@@111Malefic Have you given this video a listen?
- LP
That one drake fan: "triplet flows dont exist"
@@kingoftropes922 -did you love it did you hate it?
I can't even think of a "music studied" term that he uses. Is it something like "chord progression"?
I wonder if they may have confused "music theory" for "music feeling", as in using specific words and terms to describe how the music sounds or feels. "Moody", "atmospheric", "ambient", "harsh", "repetitive", "bland", "visceral", "airy", "wistful", "potent", etc. I feel like he uses a lot. Basically Pitchfork speech lol.
@@ippotsk to be fair i think most people select music they want to hear by using descriptors like that. there's just no practical way to not reuse the same descriptors if it really suits the music
Things like Timbre or Modality, that might not click for non-musicians
He says sonically a lot. But the person who said that didn't know what they were talking about. He doesn't use theory at all. Hahahha.
he uses terms sometimes that very casual listeners wouldn't know but clearly keeps it accessible in the grand scheme
I don't typically comment on videos, but thought I'd say I love the content fantano. love when people keep it real and stay true to themselves. keep it up man
Why is it that I disagree about LITERALLY EVERYTHING this man yet I continue to watch his reviews only for him to review things like "Worlds" by Porter Robinson a 5.
New single in 2 days BOIII
Because he’s a thoughtful, well-versed critic that creates well-argued and entertaining reviews. Doesn’t matter if his taste doesn’t align with yours.
Worlds was a 5 tho
It's fine to do that vocaloid shit for Sad Machine but it was all over that album and it sounded like shit. Coming from Spitfire EP to Worlds was a huge letdown. He got his redemption on Nurture, tho.
@@baronvonbeandip :( i like it tho
What music theory terminology has Anthony ever used? Lol
Mmm yes whats a “compression”
That was my first thought as well. What music theory? He talks about concepts like songwriting and production sure, but those terms should be known to anyone with a music interest (and damn easy to Google if not).
Only one that comes to mind is chord progression. Is that even considered a music theory term idk?
Very basic stuff that people probably should already know like tempo, tone, or rhythm.
Constantly throwing out music theory terms such as "muddy" and "raw"
I was NOT ready for that An Empty Bliss Beyond This World cameo.
We gotta support each other throughout this ongoing slamdemic
As a french viewer sometimes I misse some arguments or points in your videos so as long I can access to subtitles I’m good. You have a unique vibe in terms of music critic here on UA-cam so keep being the cool and fresh melon head that you’ve been !
I’m a formally trained musician and I appreciate your content specifically because it’s light on the theory - it’s a good window into a perspective closer to ones held by most listeners and I value that
This was unironically your best bass solo yet
I like that you get to have more fun with the video editing for this channel :) it’s lovely to see
After almost ten years of being subbed your channel is still one of my favourite ways to discover new music
Let's agree: Anthony looks great in everything he wears
Let's agree: We need more Cal on the channel.
I actually feel like Anthony, for me, has the best way of presentation when reviewing music. He is knowledgable as fvck, yet not at all pretentious.
Lmao I love how one of Pitchforks rated 10 albums is MBDTF
lets agree, anthony has a toxic fanbase when he streams.
When the corner of melon's mouth twitches slightly when the song starts and they automatically spam FIRE, BANGER 10/10
i, agree.
(i personally also would add the energy is very infectious. i hate how the stream chat acts after the fact but when i'm there it feels different yknow)
Idk about toxic but his streaming fans are definitely sheep that lean heavily on his opinion to form their own
Welcome to the wonderful world of Twitch culture, it's shit here.
@@lewispeterson2050 you are literally talking about all streamers audiences lol. they people who watch those on the reg are a different audience than who watch here. that goes for anyone who streams and posts videos hwre
I don't know any music theory beyond what you'd get in middle school music appreciation that Anthony ever talks about
I think the commenter mistook the term “music theory” to meaning how tracks are produced and mixed, which Anthony does talk about a lot.
@@micahpaulsen3940 But even then he doesn't know a ton about production and doesn't go into technical detail... so I don't know what people are missing to the point that it's an issue
@@micahpaulsen3940 what is mixing and mastering?
@@prettyj245 post production for music. Once a track has been produced, written and recorded, a sound engineer will apply effects such as EQ, Compression, filters etc in order to make sure the sound quality is high as possible.
@@IllusionistBeatsOfficial ah right thanks for the info 😊
that's so cool that you put everything at the end of time for the song at the end, just after you were talking about if you lost your memory. nice.
real talk these videos always make my day better and I look forward to them every time you make another. highkey you've become one of my favorite creators on yt.
LET’S ARGUE: Anthony should do a review of a movie
ANGRY BIRDS MOVIE REVIEW WHEN
he has! he’s a guest on one of the Sardonicast episodes, a podcast where they talk about movies.
He should review Pink Floyd's The Wall to spite Nostalgia Critic
He was on pretty much it as well
@Ralis Sedaryslook up Cody Leach. He does great horror movie reviews. Cinemassacre is another good one.
Let's agree: rating albums numerically is okay
Let's agree: using alphabetical ratings is better
@@leonardo9259 L
@@leonardo9259 hold this L
@@leonardo9259 Agreed, because it feels more vague.
Numbers require math and shit. Like, 5 cringes + 2 wows = the album is a 4
i disagree
I've been watching your videos for some time now and just want to say - thank you! You introduced me to awesome weird sh*t over the years. I realy hope all the people taking out their personal issues on you doesn't stop you from what you are doing. Anthony Fantano. Forever.
Just gotta say Anthony you introduced me to Clipping cause I clicked on some random ass review and I have never been more thankful
Let’s agree: Melon like to slappa da bass
Is that a higgs boson profile picture?
@@danielqueiroz6723 yes
No he doesn’t
RIP Chester
Melon, remember the story of Narcissus. He drowned in a pile of CDs because he couldn't stop looking at his reflection.
CDeez nuts
First video ive seen of you and you seem pretty cool, looks like im gonna be tuning in
You mentioned practicing bass before uploading it and I sincerely feel like I can see the difference.
That was a funky ass groove.
Doing the caretaker so dirty by usin his music but not reviewing eatot smh
i swear
YES JUST DO IT LIKE OMG
It's just a burning Anthony.
Yeah he probably did that on purpose
I feel like Anthony would absolutely destroy that album
Let's agree: This video was fucking hilarious
The image of him recognising his children upon "you're the melon" certainly tickled me
Your reviews of Conway's and the rest of Griselda's music was so spot on for me that I find myself looking into artists that you recommend. I was listening to Destroyer's Kaput album on the strength of your review
I like you melon!! Apart of the not as loud majority maybe. I don't always agree with you but I really appreciate your perspective. I've been watching since COVID started and always love to hear your takes on things ❤
I have honestly never heard the term “needle drop” used in the context of movies.
I didn’t get that statement.
LETS ARGUE: Melon is hot.
Didn't know this was LETS AGREE 😳
dude there's never a debate about that. it's common knowledge.
No arguing
He a young looking old guyshe's got it going on
When I look for porn I searched melonhead
Caretaker, nice.
Also, super late, but I revisited your Glow pt 2 review and I just wanted to thank you for shouting out Old Time Relijun. God what a hilariously fun band.
Armthony Flextano here, the Internet’s buffest music nerd with the beefiest biceps in the game
LETS ArGuE: Antoine fantoine is his best nickname
hahha 6/10 jajaja
@Ivory_ Lagiacrus_YT or Antifa Tano
@Ivory_ Lagiacrus_YT “Workers of the world unite; you have nothing to lose but your chains!”- Karl Marx
what was the review where this came from? been looking for it for a while and can't seem to remember
lets agree: the diversity in melon's review portfolio is a big part of what makes him a respectable critic, and I hope he continues to review and post videos about music and bands that most people don't care about but he believes is worth reviewing
Man. How do you find the energy to keep finding and listening to new stuff. I finally get time to myself to blast tunes and I get a panic attack about what to listen to that I fall back onto a podcast.
Shit, maybe I ain't in the game anymore.
It’s his job
+ the rest of us use albums and singles as soundtracks for the rest of our lives, and this is kinda his whole life.
(Atleast a large part of it)
Mr Melon you've introduced me to so many albums that I would have never looked up myself so thank you 😄
LET'S AGREE:
Anthony not knowing what circa is and mistaking it for California is really really embarrassing.
California 2008
Wait when?
@@JC20XX Part of the vid where he sees the abbreviation CA and assumes it means California when context made it clear it meant circa.
@@hidethepain_harold6092 who tf says CA when trying to say circa?
@@slick3996 Read books dude. History books or historical figures in particular.
I do that everyday
Edit: I thought it said let’s argue with me I’m so sorry for the misunderstanding
This is hilarious lmao
good job
by far my favourtie video of yours, idk it just seems so sweet.
Fantano should do theory explained videos. He has a very accessible way of explaining things and I think it would make a good series
"Get funky my dude"
-Let's bring the infinity flannel back
Being able to review what you want allows for your fans to discover artists they might not find otherwise.
I think this should become a once a while series.
I love anthony reviewing his own comment section!
Am I having a stroke or are the post-bass intro in this video and in the Politics Ruin Music for Me video exactly the same? I swear the mid-sentence laugh, the hand gestures, the intonation, and even the pacing of the words are all identical, either he’s replicated to a flawless science or it’s cut-and-pasted so damn smoothly that it’s impossible to tell where the cut into the new clip is, I am absolutely mesmerized
The Patreon music reminded me of Everywhere At The End Of Time and all serotonin just left my body
It is The Caretaker from another album of his called An Empty Bliss Beyond this World, which is shorter and more vibey (but still melancholy) than EATEOT
@@fourzerozerozero ah makes sense. V aware of it but yet to listen to it!
I've had dreams in which Fantano acts like some sort of paternal figure to me
Should I be worried?
Lucky
Honestly Fantano seems like he'd be a really good dad. Cares about his health, is thoughtful and reflective, good sense of humor, successful, musically gifted to entertain kids.
No, it means you've been Initiated.
Lucky wish he was my dad
@@redactedname247 plus he already makes content for mostly children. Judging by his comments
Love the bass playing.
you have to be the only youtuber i've come back to consistently since i started watching you about 6 years ago
Let’s agree I kinda wished the whole video would just be him playing bass
Let’s Argue: If Melon spoke more about musical theory he’d have fewer subs.
I agree, personally I can't stand video essays that are like 17 minutes long and are always titled, "Why this (enter classic song or album) is good", and then proceed to read the entire Wikipedia page like this isn't the most basic info possible.
let's agree*
that would be only for people that makes music.. us listeners dont care about music theory
This is one of the best Let's Argue episodes I've ever watched 🤣
love you melon head ^^
Always a pleasure to listen to how you enjoyed or hated a record
Lets Argue: Anthony doesn't deserve his comment section being completely off-topic from his great videos
fax
@@lotsopontso4023 y’all can’t fr still think that shit is funny lmao
old meme tbh but kids are like that on tons of videos
@@lotsopontso4023 Making the same jokes on every video isn't funny
@@christie_brown never said that, but the "Anthony said n word hahahahah Anthony gave mbdtf a 6 hahahaha" jokes are just boring now
I thought the needle drop, was when you hit yourself with heroine, on a daily basis, while reviewing albums on youtube...who knew?
That IS the needle drop.
Gotta love that auditory Caretaker reference shortly after talking about memory loss.
Playing Everywhere at the End of Time at the end to make us forget what we just saw
what did we see?
@@hotdogmachinegun6145 Meta
Anthony, I said I'm DONE arguing with you. If you don't take a drug test, you can't see the kids this weekend.
lmaoo
That’s where Let’s Agree comes in
Boundaries are so important 👏👏 Bravo
Let's Argue: the reason Melon laughs at random times in his videos is cabin fever from spending all his time in his review room.
You really couldn't resist putting in the lick after roasting jazz snobs lmao
that jazz-man callout was on the money 😂😂😂
Let's agree: I have that same target brand denim vest.
Melon has put me on to some good shit. I dont just watch the reviews of the music I know and because of that I've gotten some great recommendations.
Same.
that music theory comment about you being "too difficult" is hilarious to me. my only experiences with music theory is having dated musicians who were really nerdy and loved to talk about reverb or whatever and i can follow along to your reviews without any problem at all, like, i can't remember a single time where you've used terminology that i didn't understand. either i'm way more nerdy about music than i give myself credit for, or... i don't know. you do great work!
he is... The busiest music nerd. I recently subscribed to all his channels and now I get like15 notifications a day for content that's still great.