All Five Versions of the Han and Greedo Scene
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- Опубліковано 10 жов 2024
- honestly one of if not the worst special edition changes its changed in literally every single version of the special edition (1997, 2004 DVD, 2011 Blu Ray, and 2019 Disney +) and its gotten to the point where they fire at the exact same time rendering the whole entire change pointless
i made this cuz i was bored
Watch, I bet it goes viral
@@starwarsmansplained3766 it might honestly, theres no other video that i know of with all 5 versions of this scene
You never know!!!! I made a short last week on if Han shot first😂....but for real something you did because you were bored could blow up!!!! I hope it does!!!
Its good! I still haven’t seen a good explanation why they added that Greedo line. To let Greedo have the last word? Stupid
Thank you! I never laughed so hard!
Wow this scene gets better every time they change it! For the next version they should just have them shoot back and forth across the table missing each other about 25 times until Han finally says “Oh yeah? Macklunkey THIS!” and then blasts him
Lol underrated comment 😅 I could see Ford saying that for sure.
Ah, the SWRPG edition.
Is it bad I'd be down for that?
They blast 'em
Nah, next time Han will not shoot at all) Greedos blast will just bounce from the wall and kill him)
"Maclunkey is the key to all of this"
-George Lucas
I thought he said My C@#$ty
"I may have gone too maclunkey in a few places" -George Lucas
this was not george lucas’ doing im afraid to say
TIL that George Lucas didn't sell Star Wars until after 2019.
@@mr.gentlezombie8709 2012
I look forward to the 2026 version where Greedo just says "Maclunkey" and then falls down dead, no shots fired by anyone.
Wrong. He sees a Disney Princess and falls over out of duty.
_Maclunkey_
The first version is unironically the best.
he didn’t say Maclunkey thou….
What’s ironic about it? That’s kinda the whole point of the meme is that absolutely nothing of value has been added by ANY of these additions.
@@TheMaxFusionGaming
The special editions had editions that range from kind of annoying to kind of neat usually falling under pointless.
The kind kf neat stuff is stuff like They added shots of the wampa in ep5 that had no cg and was great. They made the emporor less ugly in transmission in ep 5. They fixed the lightsabers glow. They
Now the pointless the goofy laser they added was supposed to fix a movie mistake. Han was never meant to shoot first. The thing is though nothing actyally changes in the scene besides the goofy laser. They added some breif cg momments that added nothing.
Kind of annoying stuff includes alien covering a shot for no reason. Out of place Visuals that werent that great because they were dated (context tbe prequals pioneered a lot of cgi used today and it shows because while they looked great at the time they didbt age well and the special edition clearly was made aroubf the same time as the prequals and they released it in 2011. Btw this isnt to say the prequals are perfect but the cgi is a criticism is a unfair cretique because they had to render battlefields on old computors by today standards)
The first version, Greedo is a seasoned killer. The other versions, he's never even hit a target on purpose. The Original is the only one that makes any sense.
If it was up to me, I would use the original version, but with the McClunky line added.
The fact that there are 5 versions of this is insane.... This is the embodiment of "if it aint broken dont fix it".
"if it ain't BROKE..." there, fixed it!
"If it ain't broke... fix it til it is!"
@@erik0x4dBy bypassing the compressor?
having greedo shoot microseconds before han is so pointless because with human reaction times it is equivalent to han shooting first
It just makes Greedo look absolutely incompetent
You could say Han read facial tells (lol) to realize Greedo was about to shoot, making it more of a duel than a cold killing.
I still prefer the first version. Makes Han way more interesting.
@@Dinonumber Exactly. I'm not even sure why it was so important for Han not to shoot first. He's a smuggler, a rogue character - being streetwise and playing dirty is part of his charm.
Also greedo point his gun at him for 20 seconds in blank point range, how the hell does he miss? A renowned bounty hunter no less.
@@CarpetHaterhe wanted to monologue instead
*George Lucas sitting bolt upright from a dead sleep* : "Maclunkey! By god that's it!"
If Greedo shoots first Han would be dead, that's why the original version where Han is the only one who shot is better, because it is impossible for a bounty hunter like Greedo to miss a shot.
Not if you say "maklunkey."
M A C L U N K E Y
Greedo: Maclunkey!
Han: And I took that personally
Wait, is this for real?
It looks like a YTP sort of fan edit.
Wow…
@@elgusaniiiodeljuego6823 it's the disney plus version
@@elgusaniiiodeljuego6823 i don't know on which movie or series that word first spoken, but i heard sebulba said it in the phantom menace
@@thezplayer3002 Yeah Maclunkey means 'It will be the end of you' or something, saw it in another vid with the scene you mentioned I believe
George is an incredibly creative man, but there are some things that will only ever make sense to him.
*_Greedo literally walked up to Solo pointing his blaster at him, lock stock & barrel. NO ONE WOULD THINK OF HAN AS BEING A "COLD-BLOODED KILLER" FOR SHOOTING AT A GUY WHO IS 1 SECOND AWAY FROM SHOOTING YOU._*
I have tons of respect for George but there's some things he does that I just cannot get behind, like adding "no, NOOOOOOOOOOO" to the end of ROTJ... I think he was trolling the prequel haters or something because that change is ridiculous.
He's a scoundrel and a criminal anyway. He should be a cold blooded killer. Instead they made him kind of goofy.
@@Kraemerrr when does he add that part to the end of ROTJ? did you mean RoTS?
that aside, I entirely agree
@@lukastace3154in the disney+ version, Vader screams "noooo" again when he saves Luke, that change was made during Lucas' reign
@@cloudmaster182 ahh, i see
The original version of this scene is true to the original script, which says that there is a blinding flash of light and then Han pulls his smoking gun out from under the table. The script contains no evidence of Greedo firing a shot. In the original version, the video evidence is a little unclear, but the audio evidence contains the sound of only one blast. To me, I find it hard to believe that a skilled bounty hunter would miss the easy point-blank shot so badly, and then Han would make the harder under-the-table shot just a fraction of a second later.
Totally agree
If Greedo shoots first Han would be dead, that's why the original version where Han is the only one who shot is better, because it is impossible for a bounty hunter like Greedo to miss a shot.
@@ElKamaleon777 Right, especially from such point blank distance.
@@ElKamaleon777 I think greedo should shoot first and kill Han
Maclunkey
The final iteration of this scene will be Han and Greedo putting their guns down. They have a romantic dinner, and have an intimate night together. They go back to the cantina after an argument, and Han shoots.
A romantic dinner at McCluncky's.
Or maybe Greedo and his chicken wife just invite Solo to a dinner to reconcile, they resume their hostilities again after trying to pay the bill at the same time, and Solo ends up frying Greedo's brains.
But who shot first during the night together?
Like with a blaster, or a money shot?
McClunkey Time!
“When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk.” - Eli Wallach
McCluncky!!!!
Wtf does that mean!!!!
It’s also pronounced Maclunkey
@@04billups90 I think it means "oh $hit" in huttese but I'm not sure. Sometimes a little mystery is a good thing.
@@trooper326 man my guess is it would have been a Rodian swear word😂
It means "die, you soab"
I want to see this scene changed so many times that it’s no longer recognizable. By the year 2040 I want it to have absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the movie. Have an entirely different alien other than greedo walk in and past Han then have the entire cantina erupt into a flash mob and start singing for absolutely no reason
Maclunkey needs to stay
george lucas putting maclunky into the scene is genuinely psychotic, there's no meaning and it was put in after 40 years.
It’s from new language used in the prequel trilogy, apparently. I like it, but Greedo needs to not shoot, and Hans shot needs to be under the table.
Georgie was destroying Star Wars long before Mickey got his woke white mitts on it.
Honestly the original scene makes perfect sense with the situation and Han's character generally in the movie no matter how you cut it. Either Han knew he was about to get blasted and just took out his attacker, or he's the scoundrel Lucas painted him as and murdered the bounty hunter.
You know, this is a bigger change than it appears on the surface. 70s solo was a cold hard reality of the world. Not a good or fair man, or a bad one. Grey. And I love this.
so much smoke and we still have to see his weird cgi neck bend
All these changes and Chewie still gets no medal.
Maklunky sounds so edited in
Greedo is worse than a stormtrooper if he misses when Hans that close. For anyone else he would have been impossible to miss.
Had Greedo somehow survived this encounter his marksmanship skills would have made him an excellent stormtrooper.
0:11 bruh why would they cut out him saying "yes"
Your guess is as good as mine
@@Kraemerrr My guess is that they took the dialogue from another take because they felt Han sounded like he had an accent, and in that other take he didn't say "yes"
The best version is the 2024 Remastered Maclunkey Edition Vol. 6 Sec. 5 where Greedo says “You ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight?” before firing at Han.
I'm pretty sure you are allowed to shoot first if the other guy has a gun pointed at you, Idk why this was ever a big deal for them.
Some people honestly believe you shouldn’t hurt someone unless they hurt you first. No matter what the other person’s actions and words say they are about to do. I disagree with that. I believe in FAFO. With that being said, in a wild wild west setting, Greedo was justified in wanting to harm Han because Han owed him a lot of money and obviously wasn’t ever going to pay. Greedo can’t just sue him in galactic empire civil court. Han was also justified in shooting first, because his life was in imminent danger. George should have left it alone. But I do like the McClunky addition TBH.
What's FAFO stand for?
@@elijahhernandez906 “F*ck Around and Find Out”
When Han said "It's shootin' time" and proceeded to shoot Greedo, I sobbed uncontrollably.
The part that got me was when Greedo went "it's macklunkin' time", and started macklunking all over Han. Such an epic moment.
The maclunkey scene seems like a bad meme. Unbelievable it’s real. The whole world feels like that lately
Hold up. That's real?
@@redeye4516 Yup, it is
Geage Lucas made an edit for the planned 3D version that wasn't released, so wwhen Disney aquired Lucasfilm, they got this edit. Now it is on Disney+.
The final piece of Lucas trolling. A bomb that exploaded with a delay.
@@vladprus4019a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one
It reminds me of Bush dodging that shoe.
Lmaoooo
shoes
The fact that theres 5 versions of a scene that never needed changing and Chewie still gets no medal is laughable
it's maclunking time
We came from Han straight murdering greedo to Han dodging and killing greedo for autodefence
The change was a moment of weakness for George.
If Greedo shoots first Han would be dead, that's why the original version where Han is the only one who shot is better, because it is impossible for a bounty hunter like Greedo to miss a shot.
It was self defence in all cases
If you listen to this with headphones, you'll really notice how every post-1997 sound mix sounds worse. The cantina ambiance becomes so much more muffled.
that Maclunkey really brought the scene together! Bravo George!
A long time ago in a galaxy far, far, away....
Han Solo shot Greedo in self-defense.
The End
"This deal is getting worse all the time."
No matter how hard they try to change this, they will never replace the original 1977s way.
All these versions and not one of them still make as much sense as the original. And the reason why the change was made was even dumber, since Han was in it for himself initially and Greedo clearly threatened his life first and he was defending himself anyway.
In the next iteration maybe they'll remember to draw a hole in the wall next to Han's head.
The original was absolutely the best by a long shot.
I was as kid in 77 when I saw this. At no time have I ever had an issue with Han firing first. I always thought Greedo was going to shoot him, his speech and actions lead you to believe this. Lucas wrote the novelization and stated that Greedo made a mistake by letting Han put his had below the table. The Times today had an article on this and talks about a Han Redemption arc, I never thought there was redemption arc, the redemption arc was caring more about the money than the rebellion and then saving Luke at the end, not shooting Greedo.
Han was no idiot, blasted Greedo
Just put it back to 77 for god's sake! Nice Video showing all the different versions
I don't understand Lucas’ reason for altering this scene alone.
George didn’t want Han to look like the “bad guy” but that’s what I don’t understand, Han is supposed to be this shady smuggler who shoots first and asks questions later. That change was so incredibly stupid.
@@Kraemerrr Not to mention the fact that Greedo is outwardly there to kill him, so shady smuggler or not, he's acting in complete and utter justified self defense.
@@Kraemerrr "shoot first, ask questions later" 🇺🇸
He's a bone head?
You have to understand something simple... movies, music, games whatever... are like restaurants... is up to the owner to do whatever he wants with it... if you stop liking it you stop going there... Is just that simple.
It's ridiculous it's been changed this many times...
I think it would have made more sense to make it even more obvious with a cut that Greedo held him at gunpoint, so Han shooting first was still sekf defence but Greedo just didn't expect him to have the balls to actually kill.
Greedo missing point blank makes him just seem supremely incompetent.
ain't that the point, making Greedo incompetent?
"Pray, goodly Sir, forgive me for the mess.
[Aside:] And whether I shot first, I'll ne'er confess!" - Verily, A New Hope
I think the best part about Maclunkey is that it was only discovered well after Disney bought Star Wars and put what they thought were the latest versions of the films onto their streaming service without checking what version George gave them first. Really makes you wonder what other weird-ass changes George was tinkering away at, if this was a hint of a future that never was.
at 0:14, theres a single frame where greedos face is shown before blowing up. if you slow it down it would have great meme potential but somehow hasnt been memed lol
its weird cuz it doesnt even look like the other shots, looks like a mannequin that they stuck a gun onto his hand cuz they couldnt figure out how to have the mannequin hold it
@@sebcubille maybe cuz they wanted to actually blow up Greedo, as in practical effects, but since they couldn't blow up the suit actor for obvious reasons, they had to go with a mannequin
Ranking from shittiest to best:
1. Macklunkey
2. 1997, it’s so slow and the bad effects really show
3. 2004, slightly better than ‘97 but still awful
4. 2011, at least it’s the same speed as the original
5. Original. Of course.
5. Original. The scene makes Greedo overconfident and toying with Han as he prepares his blaster to blast Greedo first without letting plot armor taking any involvement.
0:37 Maclunkey
2024 Version: Greedo shoots himself after saying MacLunkey. 😊
2031 Version: Greedo shoots first, but it ricochet off the wall. 😁
2037 Version: Greedo has an explosive heart attack. Says something else after MacLunkey! 😊
2047 Version: Greedo's shot ricochets, kills him after saying MacLunkey! and the new word.😁
2077 Version: Greedo implodes after saying MacLunkey and the new word. 😁
3000 Version: Greedo shoots Han first and Han dies.
@@cckiller0053 Harrison Ford's most beloved Version too. 😁😁
I'll say "I've been looking forward to this for a long time"
When they restore the movie back to Han shooting first!
Maclunkey is the weirdest version of them all
Needs more Versions!!! More, Lucas, More! Comedic Gold!!! 🔥🔥😁😁😊😊
Jabba leads to Han Solo. Han Solo leads to Greedo. Greedo leads to Maclunkey. Maclunkey leads to suffering... suffering leads to the Dark Side...
Less discussed than "Did Han shoot first?" is "Did Han shoot twice?". In the original version there is one blast, apparently fired from under the table. In every subsequent version you can see two quick blaster bolts shoot out of Han's gun, although there is one blast on impact. Only in the 2019 version is there one bolt.
"maqhtanki"
**drops on table**
Meme material
I honestly don't mind the last change as they both fired at the same time and in every version Han was always going to kill Greedo whether he shot first or not.
See if greedo was a bounty hunter you would have thought he could have hit solo at point blank range, for me they spoiled the whole scene with the edits on later versions of film was nothing wrong with original.
If Greedo shoots first Han would be dead, that's why the original version where Han is the only one who shot is better, because it is impossible for a bounty hunter like Greedo to miss a shot.
@@grahamwillis585 I think in the first one Ham looks more American
Has anyone told George Maclucas how stupid the new scenes look? The original theatrical scene was perfect -- and perfectly reasonable and legal.
There are two kinds of people in the galaxy my friend, those who talk... and those who shoot first
There is such a minor difference in these, they shouldn't have even bothered.
they just wanted to change views to his character
First version is the best. It’s like two Samurai’s clashing steel with a flash and wait to see who falls first.
Nobody misses at that range against a static target. If they shoot first...you DEAD
Maclunkey
First one is the only one that doesn't make Han look incompetent.
Can't wait until the 24K Diamond-Ray release when he says "IT'S MACLUNKYING TIME!" and maclunkys all over the place.
In the next one Greedo will try to shoot, his gun will jam and Han will say:
"So you wanted to kill me right? Well, see those pictures? Yes, that's your family. I mean, it was, because you don't have one anymore, but now, why don't you join them"
To which Greedo responds: "Mcluncky!!"
And Han shoots him
Lmfao
I bet
2999 version edit will be cooler
"Han missed his shot and Greedo managrd to kill Han"
You forgot the 2022 version where Greedo shoots and Ray jumps in, blocks it, kills Greedo and kicks Jabba’s arse.
"Guns aren't for threats, they're for action."
I just can't with Maclunkey 😂😂😂
Han Solo gets luckier and luckier with each edit.
I am pretty sure if George had made the sequels, it would have turned out that Han is force sensitive. Imagine the force level of their kid.
Nice! I like all versions of this scene as long as GL made them!
Fun fact: During this scene, a light rigger by the name of Seamus MacLunkey was climbing a ladder. One of the legs broke and MacLunkey began to fall. Paul Blake (playing Greedo) tried to warn him shouting "MacLunkey!", to which Harrison Ford shot and killed Blake for no apparent reason
97 doesn’t even look like he needs to dodge
Was that a CGI dodge? His neck looks so weird.
@@watamatafoyu Looks more like a Photoshop dodge
The thing is that in every version Han shoots in self defense. Whether greedo actually fires or not he’s still pointing a gun at Han. So Han shooting is always an act of self defense no matter the version. The change doesn’t change or ruin the character it’s just neutral on that point
1997 and on: Greedo shouldn't drink before trying to collect bounties.
But where is the version where Greedo said: "It's greeding time!" before firing his shot? I remember it from when I was on it in the movies as a kid. The whole theater sighed in relief when Han fired back and got out of it unharmed.
the funniest part about the disney+ version is that it closes up on greedo in a way where any person with a computer and even the most barebones editing software could recreate it
Can anyone tell me why anyone cares?
I'm a complete star wars casual and the weird Alien dude is threatening him
Its manslaughter applied to a butt ugly Alien who's asking for it, Threatening Han Solo over the results of a gambling debt (?) on an Alien Planet that appears to have a skewered view of morality, based on the stuff we see in this movie and the prequels (I know, retcon reeeee)
With that said, I'd love to know why this is anything more than an after thought. There's nothing morally wrong with killing that Alien in this scene, much less when it's brushing its teeth (?) in the morning just for fun.
Thanks guys!
I never understood why Lucas felt the need to change this scene. 1977 is perfect as is.
Me neither. Kill the stupid bug at any point in the movie, there is zero moral dilemma to Han doing it.
If Han shot him for target practice it would've been fine, it's an ugly bug.
In the split second before the blast hits him (0:05), Greedo looks a lot skinnier and has more simplified clothes, probably a dummy.
Is it the same frame as 0:14 ?
It was a dummy. The special effects artist rigged explosives to a fake Greedo for this scene and was really proud of it.
Wait, Maclunkey wasn't in the original version? 🤣 (or any of the the versions I probably saw) Why did the line on it's own sound so iconic though... xD
I watch the original scene here everytime I rewatch these movies.
The biggest surprise is Greedo remaining a puppet after all the cg replacement in the franchise.
what I find so funny is they feel they needed to spend this much time redoing this scene when all they had to do was leave it alone. None of the re-edits work and the one at the end where they added a line to greedo at the end makes it look even more ridiculous.
As much as the original version is undoubtedly the best, I still think it’s pretty cool how in the 2019 cut they actually fire at the exact same time (I slowed it down to half-speed to check)
Han didn't shoot first, Greedo just didn’t shoot
The dumbest part of these changes: Greedo, a veteran bounty hunter, can't hit a target a little over a meter away...
I honestly thought the last ine was like an april fool or something
Surely there's one where Han dies
It’ll be in the next special edition releasing in 2027! The entire cast will be replaced with cgi aliens too
@@Kraemerrror worst
They will be replaced by the sequel characters
Slow it down to 0,25x and you'll see how clearly Han was the only one who shot
So the 1997 version really was "Greedo shot first", and the later versions re-fixed it by letting the two shoot at the same time. That's at least something I guess.
So sad tho
If Greedo shoots first Han would be dead, that's why the original version where Han is the only one who shot is better, because it is impossible for a bounty hunter like Greedo to miss a shot.
Every version after 77 is bad.. however, 04 & 11 look alot better after flippen "McCluncky"
@@ElKamaleon777I think greedo hit the wall so it didnt matter if he shot first. He missed
It's so funny that in the very original Greedo doesn't even get to shoot
My knowledge of Star Wars only goes as far as bare basics, the Bounty Hunter game, and Clone Wars series. What is Maclunkey?
I don't know why fans have been complaining according to these videos Han shot second