I don't know why anyone would be annoyed at Ewoks blinking. Without it they just look like teddy bears and more obvious suits, plus there is something disturbing about them having their eyes open constantly.
It's because they are disillusioned and want the product their way. Truly the blinking doesn't stand out and it gives more life to an already dead looking creature. Moreso most fans just can't handle the fact the effects aren't as timeless as they lie.
Actually before revenge of the sith was done filming, George Lucas told Hayden to just stand there and smile, and that's what Hayden did. He didn't know what it was for. He said if he knew he was filming that scene he would have acted differently. That’s what Hayden said in an interview
I remembered as a kid finding it weird that the actor that played the ghost looked exactly like Anakin in the prequel even if the movie came out like 20 years before
Replacing puppet Yoda was justified. They lost the original (ESB one) and the puppet used in TPM was just a proof of concept using "modern" materials. George said "that'll do" much to the creators surprise. The CGI replacement showing Yoda 30 years younger than ESB and living in far better conditions than the swamp he eventually lived in, was a great choice.
They didn't loose the ESB Yoda. Lucas still has it in his personal archives. You can see it in tour videos of his archives. They tried to make a "younger" Yoda puppet just for the prequels and failed.
@@-007-2 , because the puppet looked older in episode 1 and that wasn't the intent. I still don't like the cartoon version should have just reshot it practically with another puppet. But seeing how they still couldn't get it right in Last Jedi, maybe cartoon cgi Yoda is the best alternative.
@@-007-2 My mistake, I thought that it went missing after the studio didn't want to pay the storage fees anymore and it ended up in a dumpster with a load of other SW props. I apologise for misleading anyone.
The Yoda puppet didn't stand out because of the digital environment. It stood out because the sculpt of the puppet was horribly inconsistent from the original. Frank Oz did a fine job puppeteering Yoda in the prequels, it just never looked like the same character.
The problem with Shaw’s Force ghost is that it looks like a 70 something year old. This is not as obvious when he is dying as he is supposed to look scarred and broken. Lucas probably hadn’t decided om Anakin’s age when writing the original trilogy, so it’s understandable that he looked this way originally, but still, the change is definitely for the better. Ideally they should edit the scene now as Christensen has the perfect age for a 40 something Anakin.
Another big problem about it is how that version never really existed. Anakin never thought or imagined that version. At that point, he just hated himself, including his appearance.
I never had a problem with Hayden Christensen replacing Shaw as Anakin's force ghost. I'm especially in favor of it now after seeing how well Hayden has aged over the last 18 years. He still looks very similar, and (unlike Shaw) is still alive for future projects. Also, younger fans would probably see Shaw's force ghost at the end of the original version of RotJ and think "Who the hell is this guy? Where's Anakin?"
@@ericmatthews8497I always prefered Hayden in that scene, but what you said makes a lot.of sense. I mean, imagine seeing your father looking younger than you out of nowhere. That would be shocking
The fact that the child-murderer, mass-murderer, planet-destroying killing machine becomes an angel-force-ghost just because he protected his own flesh and blood from death at the final moments of a 99% amoral Hitler-like life, is more troubling than any actor swapping...
The change I DO NOT approve is the part on Degobah when Luke said to R2 “You’re lucky you don’t taste very good.” in the original Empire Strikes Back. In the edited version Luke says “You’re lucky to get out of there” which weakens the comedy of the situation
It was good showing Naboo and other planets celebrating at the end of ROTJ. They too had been bullied by the Empire and it makes the Rebels victory seem more universal.
What annoys me more than all those unnecessary tweaks is that the original versions are no longer available. I would like to watch the film as I remembered it as a kid in '77, not as an adult in '97.
If you haven't heard of _Harmy's Despecialized Editions,_ allow me to recommend. They are the bomb. They are not supposed to be bought and sold at all, yet it is quite possible to do so if long downloads are not agreeable.
I'm amazed that neither Lucasfilm nor Disney has re-released the original films as the "Classic Edition." Getting fans to buy the original trilogy get again seems like a no-brainer way to make more money.
@@joshuawilkinson6121 George considers the special editions as the "original trilogy", so he probably kept the one's we love in the deal, and buried them for all time.
@@lookingforwookiecopilot The word around the campfire is that Lucas never sold the rights to the original theatrical versions to Disney, so Disney simply couldn't release them even if they wanted to. He also deliberately allowed much of the original film stock to degrade so that it could never be re-used for that purpose. In the late 90s he was cheerfully declaring that in 20 to 30 years, his edited versions of the OT would be the only ones in existence.
Out of morbid curiosity, I would like to see Mr. Christensen do the whole back to Light/death scene. I wouldn't want it actually replaced in the movie, but I would like to see it. Of course, I'm still a little salty over my favorite cut scene being in A New Hope. I love the scene with the big furry human Jaba in the hanger, I still don't think that ILM can or will be able to make the slug look good.
I think it was the worst of the changes. It actually undermines the story. You see Han pushing Jabba around. It makes Jabba less threatening and undermines the plot line of Han having a bounty on his head. They should have left that scene out.
@@theduke7616 That's my point. I loved watching that scene, in the cut scenes, on the BTS and documentary featurettes. The addition of it was 1) redundant, we had all the information from Gredo 2) the having to add Han stepping over Jaba's tail is overly ridiculous.
Controversial opinion: Since Lucas already updated the movies once, Disney should update them again to make the more consistent with the prequels and other canon shows. I'm not talking changing stories here, I mean just updating some of the really aged late-90s CGI, or tweaking small things to make them internally self-consistent like what Lucas did with Vader/Anakin's eyebrows. Then they should add all the original and modified cuts in bonus features to acknowledge how the movie effects changed over time (perhaps with commentary as to why it changed too).
Yes, the 90s CGI is cringy and should be redone by Lucas film. They should also release the movies in three formats for you to choose to watch: 1) the OG releases 2) the Special Edition releases 3) the new 2020+ Remaster releases (yet to be made)
Don't give them ideas. Unless there's a shift in executives at Disney, Anakin will be retconned to be a gay black woman and Luke her adopted neurodiverse trans lover.
I believe the change to hayden christiansen is smart, because if you think of it, Anakin, before he turned to the dark side, was Hayden, and when he was turned back he was still burned and gross, so in his force ghost he chose to look like the original Anakin. Idk, those are just my thoughts.
I also think too Obi-Wan only knew what Anakin looked like as Hayden. Demasked Vader looked so deformed that regular Shaw would probably not be recognized by Obi-Wan. I mean, rules in Jedi heaven are probably different but I think using a human form that Obi-Wan and Yoda knew (Hayden) makes more sense
Yep. I mean hell, Anakin never knew what he'd have looked like at that age since he'd spent 20+ years looking pale and covered in third degree burn scars, so why would he appear as someone he's never looked like?
Yeah, because unlike Anakin who never looked like Shaw, Obi Wan died looking exactly like Sir Alec Guinness, where it actually makes sense to keep Obi Wan that way.
The change I like the most is replacing the Emporer with a woman's face and monkey eyes to be replaced by Ian McDiarmid playing the Emporer in the vision. It makes it consistent and looks better (and seeing McDiarmid play the Emporer anytime is good).
Emperor* But yeah, you're pretty much right. Although I have to admit I'm a little torn on the dialogue change. Also, Clive Revill (the guy that originally voiced the Emperor in EZB) had a great voice.
They should update Anakin's ghost as Hayden is almost the same age as Anakin now. Also they could reshoot Anakin's death scene with Hayden (while editing in young Hamill). Of course that would mean removing Sebastian Shaw from episode 6 completely.
One change that hasn't been made, but needs to be done, is in A New Hope when Luke realizes the stormtroopers attacked the Jawas' sandcrawler because they were looking for R2 and 3P0, and says, "If they traced the robots here, that means they could find out who they sold them to". In the Star Wars universe, R2 and 3P0 are NOT robots. They're droids. It seems like it would be pretty simple to copy and paste an audio clip of Hammill saying "droids" into that scene...
(1:28) Even before Revenge of the Sith, the story of why Darth Vader was given the life-support suit was close to what we ended up with. In the novelization, the conversation between Obi-Wan and Luke was extended, where Obi-Wan describes a similar event to Revenge of the Sith.
And Viggo Mortensen (as Aragorn) broke two toes while kicking a helmet and screaming in grief for the scene. Sometimes the actors' real pain becomes our entertainment.
I definitely never heard anyone complain about The Phantom Menace Yoda change, there was something odd looking about that puppet Eyebrows were burned off in Revenge of the Sith, so it makes sense they'd be gone, what's odd is Rebels brought them back like in an attempt to just boycott the special edition or something like that lol 😝 I literally didn't even know those white blips were supposed to be the X-Wings taking off before the special edition Many would disagree with the Ani ghost, I just figured they did it so they could use him later since the late Sebastian Shaw wasn't avaliable, but Disney didn't use that opportunity in any of their sequels to George's originals
My head canon on the Ani ghost scene is that the young him is just what his mind associates with the good part of him, while the old, burned man is the pathetic, evil man that he doesn't want anything to do with anymore
It was not only the matt lines that were fixed in the Hoth scenes -originally because of the optical printer's problem with white things on white backgrounds, everything with snowy backgrounds where see-through and looked like ghosts.
There is one thing which isn't on the list but should have been. Changing Palpatine in the hologram in Empire strikes back. At first, he was portrayed by Marjorie Eaton with a mask, while Clive Revill voiced him. In the new version, Palpatine was portrayed by Ian McDiarmid, who portrayed him in other movies.
Personally think the CG X-wings do not look as real but the shot improvements are worth it. For continuity, inserting Hayden into the unmasking scene would have been great. Nerd nitpick, wasn't Aurebesh introduced in ESB on Luke's X-wing monitor?
I agree will all of these. But I don't have two things I wish didn't change. 1. Adding a beak to the Sarlac, in the original, it was just a hole with tentacles. 2. In the ROTJ, they changed the ending music.
That all adds to the charme of the pre-sequel movies. Without Lucas, Star Wars doesn't feel like Star Wars anymore, because the passionate creator, who deeply cares about his work, is missing.
They need to put back the Ewok song "Yub Nub" at the end of Return of the Jedi. I dont care for the replacement tune. Hayden as Anakin's force ghost is cool though.
I think it would be cool if in the force ghost scene it starts with Sebastian, and transitions to Hayden. At the same time, have Alec transition to Ewan.
Sebastian Shaw as a forceghost was the wrong choice to begin with it should have been Prowse since he looks like Hayden and he was almost the exact same age as Darth Vader in ROTJ.
I pose a simple question for anyone who says the Hayden force ghost is justified. Would you have cared if it wasnt changed at all? Sure, you like the change but you cant tell me that you needed it. Its disrespectful to the guy who got replaced. That was his most iconic scene as an actor. George Lucas gave him the middle finger and stomped on the old mans grave.
@@annab4r Its better with Hayden? Didn't Vader turn back to the light side before he died? That was the entire point. Its also weird that Vader would show up as someone Luke hasn't seen. This is why you don't screw with 20 year old movies that have a huge fanbase. Maybe we should make the prequels better by deleting Jar Jar. And every time they say "Ani" in episode 1, it needs to be dubbed "Anakin" so Darth Vader isn't turned into girl.
I would've cared. It would've bugged me, if not much, then a little. Sure it's disrespectful, which is something I'll give you in a heartbeat, but that doesn't break it for me.
I would, because Anakin never looked like Shaw, so after the prequels, there's legit no reason for force ghost Anakin to look like someone he's never actually looked like. If you want Anakin to look like he did when he died, that means limbless, bald, pale, and covered in third degree burn scars since that's literally what Anakin looked like when he died. If you argue that the force healed him, then again, there's no reason to look like Shaw since if the force can heal Anakin, it can change him back to how he was before becoming Vader.
The helmet bump sound was in the ‘93 laserdisc version… way before the DVD release. I do not have any earlier versions of Star Wars, but it was added as early as that Laserdisc at least. I think it was caught during post production of the original release, so I’ve heard
replacing Shaw with christianson was incredibly disrespectful to Shaw and his family and also if you look at it logically noone would recognize a younger Anakin where as Luke save Shaw's version of Anakin
I think it is the same reason Rian gave for not having Hayden in Last Jedi. Luke wouldn't recognize him because Vader was Shaw. So they had Puppet Yoda instead.
"Disrespectful"? The actor was paid for his performance, he shouldn't care if he is replaced in a scene. Besides, he is still the face of Darth Vader before he died. There are also many deleted scenes throughout the original trilogy that never saw the light of day, and none of the actors have complained. They did their job and got paid. What was disrespectful was how they treated the one wearing the Darth Vader suit, David Prowse. They only used him because he was tall. He couldn't show his face at any point, so only his voice could be heard, and to top it off they also replaced his voice with James's.
No one would recognize Shaw as Anakin because Anakin never looked like that. When Vader died, he was bald, pale, and covered in third degree burn scars. Also, it's quite easy to justify Luke recognizing young Anakin since Anakin was the hero of the old republic, where there's most likely millions of holo recordings about him all across the galaxy. Not hard to find a few of Anakin floating around in Tattooine or Nar Shadaa and seeing what your old man was like before becoming the most dangerous being in the galaxy.
I got the original trilogy on VHS tapes and I'm wondering if it's Shaw or Hayden as Anakin... Also, in Ahsoka Hayden is perfect as the Force Ghost of Annie, cause he knew what he was doing...
The scene was filmed in 2004 during the revenge of the site tapings so it wouldn’t be there since the vhs are from 97 and Hayden would have been 16 at the time 😂
The Anakin change was bad because it signals that Vader was not a jedi when he died. Having Shaw's ghost means that Vader was really and truly redeemed in the end.
The tractor beam thing in English (I mean it's labelled "Tractor beam" pretty, obvious exposition, is akin to the original Batman, which had signs everywhere telling everyone the obvious: "bat computer", bat-microwave oven" etc. What would have been funnier is if Obiwan had to type in on a key pad, the Admin password "admin" and the password, "password".
My issue with Anakin’s force ghost replacement is that it kinda pulls away the idea that Anakin himself came back, took his life back from Darth Vader, and redeemed himself in the end. I think that an aged Hayden (maybe makeup or a little bit of digital age, it’s easy to hide that behind the blue filter) would’ve been better.
I think the replacing of Sebastian Shaw with Hayden Christiansen as a force ghost is justified. For the fact that by the time Anakin would have been Shaw's age at the time, Anakin would have already been brutally disfigured and scarred over his entire body. It doesn't make sense to show a middle-aged Anakin with hair and perfect skin when he never looked like that, and it would have destroyed the mood of the scene if they showed him burnt and disfigured. Going with the way he looked just before becoming Darth Vader is the best they could have done.
They could redo the scene today if they wanted to make it truly accurate, but that would mean sacrificing the symbolic meaning of his apperance as the way he was before vader
This right here. People who say "Luke wouldn't recognize young Anakin" act as if Luke would somehow recognize force ghost Shaw even though Luke never once saw Anakin/Vader like that. At least with young Anakin, it could be easily argued that after Luke learns the truth, he spends some time finding holo recordings of Anakin during the clone wars to understand more about his dad (which fits well with what he told Vader after being captured in RotJ).
Those who object to Hayden Christensen replacing Sebastian Shaw need only remembering that around the same time, some creators wanted to replace Alec Guinness with Ewan McGregor as the Force ghost of Obi-Wan. However, Lucas shut that idea down, because in his eyes, Ewan McGregor could easily evolve into Alec Guinness, given a few decades (which he is, given what we got in the show). However, since Anakin did quote unquote die when he became Vader, we needed to see Anakin as he was before that. Still, the original ghost does show what would have been if Anakin never became Vader, but that's a whole different debate. I prefer seeing Hayden over Sebastian Shaw.
I guess it really depends on what generation you come from. Growing up with the OT, what was once known as the "Special Editions", the CGI in Star Wars did greatly improve the space battle. Restoring the Jabba scene was cool...except for stepping on his tail. I didn't like what Lucas and his team did with Empire at all, and believe since he wasn't its director, wasn't his movie to change or butcher in places. ROTJ is what it is, but Anakin was a much older man at death, and just seems odd to see the younger version of him instead. As it is, the OT is completely distributed and streamed as what was once known the "Special Editions". I know there are many of us that still would like to see the original theatrical versions sold on blu-ray quality, flaws and all.
I’m not a fan of the special editions but one change in A New Hope I actually always liked was the Millennium Falcon rising out of the hanger on Mos Eisley. It’s a cool shot that gives the scene a little extra flair.
They need to replace Alec Mcguiness with Ewan McGregor as Ghost Obi-Wan Kenobi in The Empire Strikes Back and Return Of The Jedi to is resembles his decade self that the Ewan McGregor version.
The storm trooper who bumps his head, I heard tell it's David Prowse(Darth Vader) who was being used because they needed an extra trooper and who was taller than the rest of the extras on the scene which is why the door was either not designed to go higher or whose ever job it was to raise it didn't raise it enough and since Prowse had trouble seeing out of the helmet, he didn't see enough to be able to stoop a bit. I'd love it if someone can tell me if I'm right or wrong on this.
Of all the changes made over the years the one thing that has never been changed is when Leia calls "Luke!" and Luke yelling "Carrie!" as he's getting out of his X-Wing at the end of A New Hope. Am I the only person to notice that? Nobody re-editing the movies has.
Actually, Luke yelled "there she-", intending to yell "there she is" but was cut off by Leia's hug. This comes from Mark Hamill himself and is supported by George Lucas.
@@williamseneyjr.6277 No, he say "CARRIE!" very clearly, there are a few videos on it so I'm not the only one. Mark said that the line was dubbed, then he claimed he said "There she", but why not add in "is!" if it was dubbed, why not finish the sentence if that's what he intended to say? And he also said it was simply a shriek and not words at all but it's clearly a word. Mark obviously doesn't remember it clearly. I think Mark knows he screwed up but just trolling his fans, it wouldn't be the first time he's done it.
Nah, Hayden's Anakin made no sense in ROTJ. The counterpoint to the Anakin "died" while young argument is that Vader was redeemed and "died" before older Anakin then physically died so it was perfectly fine for older Anakin to be the force ghost...
Also perfectly fine for him to be young because otherwise it's just some random old dude that hasn't been in the movies at all. And that version shouldn't be nearly as old as he was a ghost either, dude was like a 60 year old in ghost form.
His personality died on the lava planet. So I think it makes way more sense to go back to his light side look as a ghost. But if he lived like the one comic he's staying bald.
I've seen it a hundred times and never noticed it was Hayden's head superimposed over Shaw. I simply thought they had Hayden re-film the entire presentation and swapped.
I never once watched any of the stars wars films in my entire lifetime, I was a wee kid when the movies with anakin and obi wan came out back then and I never got the chance to actually see any of the movies growing up as a kid, my parents weren’t into that, nobody in my family was into that and I jsut never bothered to get into it until I turned about 20 then decided to finally watch all the films after all the years of wanting to be part of the fandom and after listening to the many many family guy references , I watched the films and that shit was good I was over there looking at professional light sabers after I got done with all of them, but the point is , the movies made by George Lucas were badass and a major staple , and I saw Return of the Jedi for the first time I thought it was so dope to see Hayden Christensen as one of the ghost , and because I watched the movies in theatrical release I was surprised as hella when I seen him as one of the ghost cause growing up as a kid I remember seeing Hayden’s face everywhere when the phantom menace came out and everything after that, I knew Hayden as that dude from Star Wars that turns into dearth Vader, so watching his ghost appear in the 6th episode was a dope first time watch for me because in my head I was like there’s no way, but this movie came out like years ago, and I was just completely stunned and it wasn’t until I looked it up that I saw it was cgi and that wasn’t the original cut , it still made me feel good that I got to watch the movies for the first time with all the George Lucas edits and changes.
@@puuko9874 because he went from the age of 62 to 21 in a matter of seconds. Makes no sense. Also, most say that is because that was the last point in which Anakin was good, but that’s not true. He died a good man.
But he never looked like Shaw. He looked like burned when he died. So if you want to talk about continuity, then him suddenly becoming unrecognizable (as in becoming non burned shaw) would make no sense, because he never looked like that. Whereas the force ghost represents their inner self and their relationship to the light side, which would mean at the end of the movie, when darth Vader went back to the light side, his inner self reverted back to when he was last with the light side, as Hayden Christensen’s a anakin. Where as obiwan and toda grew old with the light side which makes sense why they look older. This is how it makes sense to me.
Also darth Vader was in his 40’s when he died so making him look like a grandpa makes no sense. Going by your logic then Christensen’s Anakins force ghost is better because he looks closer to that age. But I believe he reverts back to just before he went to the dark side.
I absolutely respect your opinion, and you aren't wrong; however, there are a couple of things I feel differently about. Replacing puppet Yoda. I liked the puppet. That said, I'm biased: I've done puppets on TV. (I suspect it's one of those however you first saw it, will be the one you prefer.) Replacing Shaw with Christensen. I happen to think it was unfortunate that they took Shaw's final moments away. Maybe they could've started with one, and had him age (or de-age) to the other? As always thank you so very much for the videos.
While I don’t mind the puppet, I mean ESB Yoda is great. TPM Yoda looked really bad imo. It looked very greasy and I guess that was to make him look younger, but it doesn’t match up to the rest of the prequel movies. So I’m that sense replacing the puppet for CG I can understand, if anything for continuity sake.
They kind of did do the Shaw and Hayden being his ghost in canon now. In one of the novels that takes place before the ST, Anakin’s ghost(Hayden) does show up and something happens to his ghost where it would revert back to when he was Shaw after Luke takes his mask off. Still, in universe, I don’t think healed Shaw as his ghost would make sense. Anakin himself doesn’t know that version or has ever thought of that.
To add another argument for changing Shaw to Hayden's force ghost is that Anakin never looked like Shaw, where the only appearances Anakin ever had was pre Vader or pale, bald, and covered in third degree scar burns. Shaw being Anakin's force ghost makes no sense because never in Anakin's history of being alive has he ever looked even close to that.
Replacing Shaw with Christensen is a non sense, just as much as Lucas wanted us to believe that Anakin became Vader "to save the one he loved". Save her from what and to do what? She would have never agree with Anakin killing younglings to save her baby (among other things). And he knew that very well. Returning to this point. Young Anakin did a lot of atrocious things with no valid reason (according to the story). Old Anakin is actually the one who loved his son so much that did the ultimate sacrifice to save him. At that point if by some mambo jumbo that cannot be explained, he became a Force Ghost just like this, it's fine, but the one who deserves this is the old Anakin, not the young one who was so foolish and evil.
For the X wings leaving Yavin 4 and assembling I always liked that change, why couldn’t the tower watching guy (with no way to get up there or down for a break) be removed as a change?
@@OmegaPointZen Especially if it's telescopic. Then again, I didn't see a hanger crew available on Dagobah to remove the ladder Luke needed to get into his X-Wing. Maybe Yoda did it? 🙄 And how did that large ladder get there in the first place?
Its funny to thing that hayden christensen is 42 years old and darth vader was 45 when he died, so hayden is now old enough to play vader at the time of his death but yet in shows like ahsoka they still deaged him...
I read that Lucas didn't tell Hayden why he wanted to him to dress up like that to film him. I wish he had because he just looks goofy standing there grinning. He could have at least given a better performance if he knew he was going to be a redeemed Anakin force ghost.
Lucas did it as a way to reward Hayden. He didn't even tell him til later he was in the 2004 DVD release. It was a gift to the actor. And it was gracious even if it makes no sense. Its like the Stewjon thing. Lucas does these things sometimes.
I'm absolutely fine with the first set as well as most of this set. But number 2 SHOULD NOT be on this list. It makes absolutely no sense! If you are going to argue that it makes the circle complete by inserting ROTS Anakin over ROTJ Anakin, then it would only make sense that you would overlay the other two: Younger Obi-wan and Yoda. If the argument is that he becomes a Force ghost to his younger self as a Jedi before he became a Sith, then the argument can be made that Anakin was the Jedi who returned and therefore should have the older Anakin Force ghost.
I feel like the change to anakins force ghost in rotj is completely justified. With the added context of the prequels, Hayden Christensen was the last way anakin looked before he got burned and scarred so having him be sebastian shaw with all his hair and all makes no sense because he never would have looked like that.
I think the re-imagined version of Obi vs. Vader should be officially added to ANH. It makes the scene so much more thrilling than the slow, stiff saber-whacking of the original.
I don't care how old Anakin Skywalker is supposed to be. Its jarring to see a totally different actor playing the guy 5 minutes after we finally got a closeup of his face.
The problem with Hayden Christensen replacing Shaw is several fold. On an in universe level, every single force ghost appears as old as when they died except him. On a a meta level I kind of hate how it strips Shaw from his one and only proper, non deformed human appearance in the series. It feels like part of his name was erased from the movie and it's not like we wouldn't have recognized him since we just saw him as dying Vader, although much more mutilated and deformed. Hayden had his Anakin to Vader moment, I don't get why Shaw had to be stripped from his full Vade -> Anakin moment for a dumb prequels ad.
My opinion is that there just should be no Anakin's force ghost at all. After Episode 3 we all know that force ghost technique was learnt by Joda and Obi-wan *after* Anakin switched to dark side. He simply had no ability to learn about it - the technique was invented by Qui-Gonn not so long ago. Also, it seems incredibly dumb now, after Anakin killed younglings and dozens of innocent people, he gets all redemption and a ticket to jedi's heaven by simply saving his own son being tortured to death in front of him. This act is not so humble if you ask me, basically every father would do the same in his position. Not enough to redeem dozens, if not hundreds of people killed by him in a cold blood.
i prefer the original theatrical releases and had them on laserdisc. the new 4K77, 4K80, and 4K83 releases are great, taken from original theatrical 35mm prints and scanned at 4K. yeah there were errors in Star Wars, in the end, it didn't matter. not allowing us to buy the original theatrical releases is a missed opportunity.
Changin Anakin's ghost gave us the chance to see him in the Ahsoka series and posibly in the future shows. Trust me, episode 5 of Ahsoka and the last 5 seconds of the season finale are worth it. After all, the whole saga of Star Wars is about him, and because of that we are experiencing a redeemed Anakin in present days. That wouldn't have been posible with Sebastian's ghost.
I have a better solution for the Shaw/Christensen dilemma: Make Anakin's force ghost initially be the one of Sebastian Shaw, then he blurs into Hayden Christensen. Now add a CGI of Obi-Wan's Alec Guiness impressed, and he tries to do the same and becomes Ewan McGregor. Hell, go a step beyond, put a CGI'd younger Liam Neeson as Qui-Gon showing up behind them and then show Luke as a CGI'd Young Mark Hamill looking at the scene with utter confusion!
Chaning Anikin from Sebastian Shaw to Hayden Christensen might make sense if he wasn't the only one changed. If anything, it makes the rules here so much murkier. He's younger, why isn't Yoda or Obi Wan? They could have changed all the force ghosts. Plus, we only minutes before saw Shaw as the reformed Anikin, why bring in a third actor in one movie to portray the physical character? It really wasn't justified at all.
Anakin had different circumstances from other two. Yoda and Kenobi didn’t turn to the dark side and/or get their appearances altered after doing so. With Anakin, he was burned alive after turning to the dark when he was in his 20s. I think in universe, it makes less sense with an old and heal version of Shaw since Anakin has never looked like that nor would he know about that one. There is other support in expanded lore that supports the idea that Anakin would most likely appear as his younger self when he was a force ghost.
@@Deathpool_04yes exactly! The force ghost is a representation of your inner self coupled with your relationship with the light side. Anakin never looked like unburned Shaw, so why would that be his inner self? Christensen’s Anakin would be the version of himself that he recognizes, now that he’s back to the light side. Plus Darth Vader died in his 40s so his unburned self wouldn’t look like an 80 year old man anyways
@@Chloe575_ You should read the ROTJ Novelization. The way he describes his younger self and how that’s when he had a lot of the good things in his life compared to when he was an old man as Darth Vader, supports that he’d want to appear as how he did before he became Vader. Yes, he fulfilled the prophecy as an old man but that wouldn’t change his thoughts on his younger self and how there’s nothing that supports him even wanting to appear as a much older but healed version of himself. At most, he’d look like middle aged Hayden. He only looked much older because of him getting burned alive and being on the dark side.
@@Chloe575_ I will mention that the ROTJ novelization is no longer canon but I don’t think Anakin’s thoughts would change, especially when it comes to how his force ghost would look like. I do think that it’s fair if people prefer Shaw for out of universe reasons but in universe, Anakin probably wouldn’t want to look like that.
Maybe 2005 Hayden doesn't make sense to be in ROTJ. But maybe he can come back in 5-10 years (whenever he's the correct age) and reshoot both the unmasking and force ghost scenes. Then we don't need to worry about the "wrong age" thing??
Nope wrong, Anakin Skywalker, not Darth Vader died as a young man. Anakin Skywalker died in ROTS, the movies make it very clear after the he is no longer Anakin, and the Obi Wan show just further proves that point, there was no saving him at that time.
Yes the stormtrooper head bump is funny and a satisfying noise, that's why I decided to show it 4 times in this video and talk over it every time.
seriously dude...so dumb. like actually aggravates me. its not hard to stfu for half a second so we can hear wtf hes talking about. guys fried
And not even play the sound...
It really annoyed me honestly
@@JS_Guitar09 copyright is why lol
literallyyyyy
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I don't know why anyone would be annoyed at Ewoks blinking. Without it they just look like teddy bears and more obvious suits, plus there is something disturbing about them having their eyes open constantly.
It's because they are disillusioned and want the product their way.
Truly the blinking doesn't stand out and it gives more life to an already dead looking creature.
Moreso most fans just can't handle the fact the effects aren't as timeless as they lie.
@@compassionate100 🤦♂🤦♂
I honestly don’t know if I’m one of the few but I think the Ewoks blinking made them look even more adorable.
Yeh this UA-camr is dumb
Actually before revenge of the sith was done filming, George Lucas told Hayden to just stand there and smile, and that's what Hayden did. He didn't know what it was for. He said if he knew he was filming that scene he would have acted differently. That’s what Hayden said in an interview
(That’s actually kinda funny* 🤣
cool!
Anakin looks like a jabroni. Hayden should redo the scene now that he's older.
The fact that he didn’t play the bump sound effect will forever haunt me
That Will Anger Me For So Long😠
@@cameronstv3865 Time to convert to Sith. Give in to your anger..
I remembered as a kid finding it weird that the actor that played the ghost looked exactly like Anakin in the prequel even if the movie came out like 20 years before
same XD without context its just SO FREAKING CONFUSING
Me too like zamn bro didn't age a day
Same
Should've been unmasked David Prowse talking to Luke at the end of ROTJ, with him as the ghost at the end. He even looked like Hayden Christensen!
Same!
Replacing puppet Yoda was justified. They lost the original (ESB one) and the puppet used in TPM was just a proof of concept using "modern" materials. George said "that'll do" much to the creators surprise. The CGI replacement showing Yoda 30 years younger than ESB and living in far better conditions than the swamp he eventually lived in, was a great choice.
They didn't loose the ESB Yoda. Lucas still has it in his personal archives. You can see it in tour videos of his archives.
They tried to make a "younger" Yoda puppet just for the prequels and failed.
@@-007-2 , because the puppet looked older in episode 1 and that wasn't the intent. I still don't like the cartoon version should have just reshot it practically with another puppet. But seeing how they still couldn't get it right in Last Jedi, maybe cartoon cgi Yoda is the best alternative.
@@-007-2 My mistake, I thought that it went missing after the studio didn't want to pay the storage fees anymore and it ended up in a dumpster with a load of other SW props. I apologise for misleading anyone.
The puppet seems to be more realistic than Cgi
did they also use a puppet in teh original aotc and rots i wasn't around when they came out so i have never seen the original version?
The Yoda puppet didn't stand out because of the digital environment. It stood out because the sculpt of the puppet was horribly inconsistent from the original. Frank Oz did a fine job puppeteering Yoda in the prequels, it just never looked like the same character.
Yeah it looked terrible much worse than Empire Strikes back Yoda.
The problem with Shaw’s Force ghost is that it looks like a 70 something year old. This is not as obvious when he is dying as he is supposed to look scarred and broken. Lucas probably hadn’t decided om Anakin’s age when writing the original trilogy, so it’s understandable that he looked this way originally, but still, the change is definitely for the better. Ideally they should edit the scene now as Christensen has the perfect age for a 40 something Anakin.
No the person who was Anakin Skywalker died as a young man, and you don't age as a ghost.
@@TomBongJovi no he died when he was 46, how is that
young
Another big problem about it is how that version never really existed. Anakin never thought or imagined that version. At that point, he just hated himself, including his appearance.
@@da-vidcargill4975 anakin died but vader survived
he looked around seventy because he WAS. Sebastian was 78 when he did that scene.
I never had a problem with Hayden Christensen replacing Shaw as Anakin's force ghost. I'm especially in favor of it now after seeing how well Hayden has aged over the last 18 years. He still looks very similar, and (unlike Shaw) is still alive for future projects. Also, younger fans would probably see Shaw's force ghost at the end of the original version of RotJ and think "Who the hell is this guy? Where's Anakin?"
Thats exactly what i thought seeing rotj as a kid lmao
It's dumb. It's arbitrary. And everytime I see it, I see Luke thinking "Who the f*** are you?"
@@ericmatthews8497 I'm sorry you feel that way.
@@ericmatthews8497I always prefered Hayden in that scene, but what you said makes a lot.of sense. I mean, imagine seeing your father looking younger than you out of nowhere. That would be shocking
The fact that the child-murderer, mass-murderer, planet-destroying killing machine becomes an angel-force-ghost just because he protected his own flesh and blood from death at the final moments of a 99% amoral Hitler-like life, is more troubling than any actor swapping...
Its just weird that we never saw Anakin wearing those classic Jedi Robes
True that is weird
The change I DO NOT approve is the part on Degobah when Luke said to R2 “You’re lucky you don’t taste very good.” in the original Empire Strikes Back. In the edited version Luke says “You’re lucky to get out of there” which weakens the comedy of the situation
Yeah
It was good showing Naboo and other planets celebrating at the end of ROTJ.
They too had been bullied by the Empire and it makes the Rebels victory seem more universal.
What annoys me more than all those unnecessary tweaks is that the original versions are no longer available. I would like to watch the film as I remembered it as a kid in '77, not as an adult in '97.
You, and about a bazillion other people, pal, lol.
If you haven't heard of _Harmy's Despecialized Editions,_ allow me to recommend. They are the bomb. They are not supposed to be bought and sold at all, yet it is quite possible to do so if long downloads are not agreeable.
I'm amazed that neither Lucasfilm nor Disney has re-released the original films as the "Classic Edition." Getting fans to buy the original trilogy get again seems like a no-brainer way to make more money.
@@joshuawilkinson6121 George considers the special editions as the "original trilogy", so he probably kept the one's we love in the deal, and buried them for all time.
@@lookingforwookiecopilot The word around the campfire is that Lucas never sold the rights to the original theatrical versions to Disney, so Disney simply couldn't release them even if they wanted to. He also deliberately allowed much of the original film stock to degrade so that it could never be re-used for that purpose. In the late 90s he was cheerfully declaring that in 20 to 30 years, his edited versions of the OT would be the only ones in existence.
Your argument for adding blinking to the Dianoga works equally well for the adding of blinking to the Ewoks.
Out of morbid curiosity, I would like to see Mr. Christensen do the whole back to Light/death scene. I wouldn't want it actually replaced in the movie, but I would like to see it. Of course, I'm still a little salty over my favorite cut scene being in A New Hope. I love the scene with the big furry human Jaba in the hanger, I still don't think that ILM can or will be able to make the slug look good.
I could not face rewatching _A New Hope_ for roughly a decade just because of that scene. Thank the force for Harmy's Despecialized Edition.
I think it was the worst of the changes. It actually undermines the story. You see Han pushing Jabba around. It makes Jabba less threatening and undermines the plot line of Han having a bounty on his head. They should have left that scene out.
@@theduke7616 That's my point. I loved watching that scene, in the cut scenes, on the BTS and documentary featurettes. The addition of it was 1) redundant, we had all the information from Gredo 2) the having to add Han stepping over Jaba's tail is overly ridiculous.
Controversial opinion: Since Lucas already updated the movies once, Disney should update them again to make the more consistent with the prequels and other canon shows. I'm not talking changing stories here, I mean just updating some of the really aged late-90s CGI, or tweaking small things to make them internally self-consistent like what Lucas did with Vader/Anakin's eyebrows.
Then they should add all the original and modified cuts in bonus features to acknowledge how the movie effects changed over time (perhaps with commentary as to why it changed too).
They would never do that since Disney loathes anything that George did or more in line Kathleen Kennedy loathes anything he did
Yeah eventually they should go back and do the same they did in the rerelease in the 90s
Yes, the 90s CGI is cringy and should be redone by Lucas film.
They should also release the movies in three formats for you to choose to watch: 1) the OG releases 2) the Special Edition releases 3) the new 2020+ Remaster releases (yet to be made)
@@-007-2 This!!
Don't give them ideas. Unless there's a shift in executives at Disney, Anakin will be retconned to be a gay black woman and Luke her adopted neurodiverse trans lover.
In my opinion, I love the Hayden Christensen Ghost! The Sebastian Shaw Ghost is great, too! Both are phenomenal actors, in my opinion!
I believe the change to hayden christiansen is smart, because if you think of it, Anakin, before he turned to the dark side, was Hayden, and when he was turned back he was still burned and gross, so in his force ghost he chose to look like the original Anakin. Idk, those are just my thoughts.
Moronic
I also think too Obi-Wan only knew what Anakin looked like as Hayden. Demasked Vader looked so deformed that regular Shaw would probably not be recognized by Obi-Wan. I mean, rules in Jedi heaven are probably different but I think using a human form that Obi-Wan and Yoda knew (Hayden) makes more sense
so didn't Luke just convert him to the bright side and save him?
Yep. I mean hell, Anakin never knew what he'd have looked like at that age since he'd spent 20+ years looking pale and covered in third degree burn scars, so why would he appear as someone he's never looked like?
The real sacrilege would have been replacing Sir Alec with Ewan in that final ROTJ scene.
I agree with you. They must never do this because it would be absurd.
Watch Disney do it Lucas at least had enough respect to not do anything like that.
Yeah, because unlike Anakin who never looked like Shaw, Obi Wan died looking exactly like Sir Alec Guinness, where it actually makes sense to keep Obi Wan that way.
The change I like the most is replacing the Emporer with a woman's face and monkey eyes to be replaced by Ian McDiarmid playing the Emporer in the vision.
It makes it consistent and looks better (and seeing McDiarmid play the Emporer anytime is good).
Emperor* But yeah, you're pretty much right. Although I have to admit I'm a little torn on the dialogue change. Also, Clive Revill (the guy that originally voiced the Emperor in EZB) had a great voice.
@@metalboy5150 The Empire Zrikes Back
@@metalboy5150 Ian Mcdiarmid is much better lol i am sorry there is only 1 guy to voice and play the emporer.
Not yet
They should update Anakin's ghost as Hayden is almost the same age as Anakin now. Also they could reshoot Anakin's death scene with Hayden (while editing in young Hamill). Of course that would mean removing Sebastian Shaw from episode 6 completely.
"return of the jediYUH"
"a small but noticable wayYUH"
"sticks out like a sore thumbUH"
One change that hasn't been made, but needs to be done, is in A New Hope when Luke realizes the stormtroopers attacked the Jawas' sandcrawler because they were looking for R2 and 3P0, and says, "If they traced the robots here, that means they could find out who they sold them to". In the Star Wars universe, R2 and 3P0 are NOT robots. They're droids. It seems like it would be pretty simple to copy and paste an audio clip of Hammill saying "droids" into that scene...
(1:28) Even before Revenge of the Sith, the story of why Darth Vader was given the life-support suit was close to what we ended up with. In the novelization, the conversation between Obi-Wan and Luke was extended, where Obi-Wan describes a similar event to Revenge of the Sith.
The head bump is kinda tragic because the guy who played the Stormtrooper actually got a serious concussion & now we just laughing at his pain…
And Viggo Mortensen (as Aragorn) broke two toes while kicking a helmet and screaming in grief for the scene. Sometimes the actors' real pain becomes our entertainment.
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I definitely never heard anyone complain about The Phantom Menace Yoda change, there was something odd looking about that puppet
Eyebrows were burned off in Revenge of the Sith, so it makes sense they'd be gone, what's odd is Rebels brought them back like in an attempt to just boycott the special edition or something like that lol 😝
I literally didn't even know those white blips were supposed to be the X-Wings taking off before the special edition
Many would disagree with the Ani ghost, I just figured they did it so they could use him later since the late Sebastian Shaw wasn't avaliable, but Disney didn't use that opportunity in any of their sequels to George's originals
My head canon on the Ani ghost scene is that the young him is just what his mind associates with the good part of him, while the old, burned man is the pathetic, evil man that he doesn't want anything to do with anymore
@@williusmac891 Or just his perfect self, physically and mentally.
The puppet was horribly designed Empire Yoda looked a million times better.
@@williusmac891 Or Just his physical and mental prime he don't want to live as a burned amputated 45 year old man.
It was not only the matt lines that were fixed in the Hoth scenes -originally because of the optical printer's problem with white things on white backgrounds, everything with snowy backgrounds where see-through and looked like ghosts.
Now they can fully insert Hayden as the dying Vader. Hopefully not, to respect the original actor who was already replaced in ROTJ.
There is one thing which isn't on the list but should have been. Changing Palpatine in the hologram in Empire strikes back. At first, he was portrayed by Marjorie Eaton with a mask, while Clive Revill voiced him. In the new version, Palpatine was portrayed by Ian McDiarmid, who portrayed him in other movies.
the title of the video says "more" in it because there was another video before this. that video had the palpatine replacement mentioned in it.
They can remove an eyebrow using CGI meanwhile DC trying so bad to remove Henry Cavil's mustache
5 second take vs whole movies take is diferent tho...
Personally think the CG X-wings do not look as real but the shot improvements are worth it. For continuity, inserting Hayden into the unmasking scene would have been great. Nerd nitpick, wasn't Aurebesh introduced in ESB on Luke's X-wing monitor?
Anakin redeemed himself in the end so his force ghost should represent how he looks then.
And he was not 80 years old like Sebastian Shaw he was in his mid 40s.
@@emilfrederiksen.1622 Sebastian Shaw is a fantastic actor, but George Lucas made the right call in changing the ending
I agree will all of these. But I don't have two things I wish didn't change.
1. Adding a beak to the Sarlac, in the original, it was just a hole with tentacles.
2. In the ROTJ, they changed the ending music.
That all adds to the charme of the pre-sequel movies. Without Lucas, Star Wars doesn't feel like Star Wars anymore, because the passionate creator, who deeply cares about his work, is missing.
They need to put back the Ewok song "Yub Nub" at the end of Return of the Jedi. I dont care for the replacement tune. Hayden as Anakin's force ghost is cool though.
Just wait for the day that Disney digitally replace Humpty Dumpty Vader entirely with CGI Hayden Christensen during the unmasking scene
I think it would be cool if in the force ghost scene it starts with Sebastian, and transitions to Hayden. At the same time, have Alec transition to Ewan.
Sebastian Shaw as a forceghost was the wrong choice to begin with it should have been Prowse since he looks like Hayden and he was almost the exact same age as Darth Vader in ROTJ.
I pose a simple question for anyone who says the Hayden force ghost is justified. Would you have cared if it wasnt changed at all? Sure, you like the change but you cant tell me that you needed it. Its disrespectful to the guy who got replaced. That was his most iconic scene as an actor. George Lucas gave him the middle finger and stomped on the old mans grave.
i dont care that it’s ‘disrespectful’ as it made the scene better
@@annab4r Its better with Hayden? Didn't Vader turn back to the light side before he died? That was the entire point. Its also weird that Vader would show up as someone Luke hasn't seen. This is why you don't screw with 20 year old movies that have a huge fanbase. Maybe we should make the prequels better by deleting Jar Jar. And every time they say "Ani" in episode 1, it needs to be dubbed "Anakin" so Darth Vader isn't turned into girl.
I would've cared. It would've bugged me, if not much, then a little. Sure it's disrespectful, which is something I'll give you in a heartbeat, but that doesn't break it for me.
Yeah i would have actually it would not have made sense to have 78 year old Sebastian Shaw resembling 45 year old Anakin Skywalker.
I would, because Anakin never looked like Shaw, so after the prequels, there's legit no reason for force ghost Anakin to look like someone he's never actually looked like. If you want Anakin to look like he did when he died, that means limbless, bald, pale, and covered in third degree burn scars since that's literally what Anakin looked like when he died. If you argue that the force healed him, then again, there's no reason to look like Shaw since if the force can heal Anakin, it can change him back to how he was before becoming Vader.
The helmet bump sound was in the ‘93 laserdisc version… way before the DVD release. I do not have any earlier versions of Star Wars, but it was added as early as that Laserdisc at least. I think it was caught during post production of the original release, so I’ve heard
The Ewok Celebration Song replacement at the end of Return of the Jedi was never justified.
Where the hell do you keep a sandcrawler prop for 20 years? That's insane
Where ever they kept it, they should have kept the original Yoda puppet as the reason it had to be changed was the puppet got lost.
replacing Shaw with christianson was incredibly disrespectful to Shaw and his family and also if you look at it logically noone would recognize a younger Anakin where as Luke save Shaw's version of Anakin
I think it is the same reason Rian gave for not having Hayden in Last Jedi. Luke wouldn't recognize him because Vader was Shaw. So they had Puppet Yoda instead.
"Disrespectful"? The actor was paid for his performance, he shouldn't care if he is replaced in a scene. Besides, he is still the face of Darth Vader before he died.
There are also many deleted scenes throughout the original trilogy that never saw the light of day, and none of the actors have complained. They did their job and got paid.
What was disrespectful was how they treated the one wearing the Darth Vader suit, David Prowse. They only used him because he was tall. He couldn't show his face at any point, so only his voice could be heard, and to top it off they also replaced his voice with James's.
The Actor was paid a shit ton of money to appear in 2 minutes of the movie lol he still has the part where Luke takes off his mask.
No one would recognize Shaw as Anakin because Anakin never looked like that. When Vader died, he was bald, pale, and covered in third degree burn scars. Also, it's quite easy to justify Luke recognizing young Anakin since Anakin was the hero of the old republic, where there's most likely millions of holo recordings about him all across the galaxy. Not hard to find a few of Anakin floating around in Tattooine or Nar Shadaa and seeing what your old man was like before becoming the most dangerous being in the galaxy.
@@jish55 Except his son literally just took off his helmet and saw shaw
3:18 I just noticed the sarlacc kinda looks like a pistachio 😂
Yoda at 1:02 honesty looks evil 😂
I got the original trilogy on VHS tapes and I'm wondering if it's Shaw or Hayden as Anakin...
Also, in Ahsoka Hayden is perfect as the Force Ghost of Annie, cause he knew what he was doing...
The scene was filmed in 2004 during the revenge of the site tapings so it wouldn’t be there since the vhs are from 97 and Hayden would have been 16 at the time 😂
The Anakin change was bad because it signals that Vader was not a jedi when he died. Having Shaw's ghost means that Vader was really and truly redeemed in the end.
The Ewoks blinking is fine. After all, they living in a forest and can get things in their eyes like we do.
1:46 NAH these some devious ah eye brows this shit was necessary
Darth Brezhnev
The tractor beam thing in English (I mean it's labelled "Tractor beam" pretty, obvious exposition, is akin to the original Batman, which had signs everywhere telling everyone the obvious: "bat computer", bat-microwave oven" etc. What would have been funnier is if Obiwan had to type in on a key pad, the Admin password "admin" and the password, "password".
My issue with Anakin’s force ghost replacement is that it kinda pulls away the idea that Anakin himself came back, took his life back from Darth Vader, and redeemed himself in the end. I think that an aged Hayden (maybe makeup or a little bit of digital age, it’s easy to hide that behind the blue filter) would’ve been better.
I think the replacing of Sebastian Shaw with Hayden Christiansen as a force ghost is justified. For the fact that by the time Anakin would have been Shaw's age at the time, Anakin would have already been brutally disfigured and scarred over his entire body. It doesn't make sense to show a middle-aged Anakin with hair and perfect skin when he never looked like that, and it would have destroyed the mood of the scene if they showed him burnt and disfigured. Going with the way he looked just before becoming Darth Vader is the best they could have done.
They could redo the scene today if they wanted to make it truly accurate, but that would mean sacrificing the symbolic meaning of his apperance as the way he was before vader
This right here. People who say "Luke wouldn't recognize young Anakin" act as if Luke would somehow recognize force ghost Shaw even though Luke never once saw Anakin/Vader like that. At least with young Anakin, it could be easily argued that after Luke learns the truth, he spends some time finding holo recordings of Anakin during the clone wars to understand more about his dad (which fits well with what he told Vader after being captured in RotJ).
Those who object to Hayden Christensen replacing Sebastian Shaw need only remembering that around the same time, some creators wanted to replace Alec Guinness with Ewan McGregor as the Force ghost of Obi-Wan. However, Lucas shut that idea down, because in his eyes, Ewan McGregor could easily evolve into Alec Guinness, given a few decades (which he is, given what we got in the show). However, since Anakin did quote unquote die when he became Vader, we needed to see Anakin as he was before that. Still, the original ghost does show what would have been if Anakin never became Vader, but that's a whole different debate. I prefer seeing Hayden over Sebastian Shaw.
I guess it really depends on what generation you come from. Growing up with the OT, what was once known as the "Special Editions", the CGI in Star Wars did greatly improve the space battle. Restoring the Jabba scene was cool...except for stepping on his tail. I didn't like what Lucas and his team did with Empire at all, and believe since he wasn't its director, wasn't his movie to change or butcher in places. ROTJ is what it is, but Anakin was a much older man at death, and just seems odd to see the younger version of him instead.
As it is, the OT is completely distributed and streamed as what was once known the "Special Editions". I know there are many of us that still would like to see the original theatrical versions sold on blu-ray quality, flaws and all.
I think Anakin’s force ghost should of been in his black Jedi robes.
I’m not a fan of the special editions but one change in A New Hope I actually always liked was the Millennium Falcon rising out of the hanger on Mos Eisley. It’s a cool shot that gives the scene a little extra flair.
That Yoda puppet is a thing of nightmares.
They need to replace Alec Mcguiness with Ewan McGregor as Ghost Obi-Wan Kenobi in The Empire Strikes Back and Return Of The Jedi to is resembles his decade self that the Ewan McGregor version.
The storm trooper who bumps his head, I heard tell it's David Prowse(Darth Vader) who was being used because they needed an extra trooper and who was taller than the rest of the extras on the scene which is why the door was either not designed to go higher or whose ever job it was to raise it didn't raise it enough and since Prowse had trouble seeing out of the helmet, he didn't see enough to be able to stoop a bit. I'd love it if someone can tell me if I'm right or wrong on this.
Of all the changes made over the years the one thing that has never been changed is when Leia calls "Luke!" and Luke yelling "Carrie!" as he's getting out of his X-Wing at the end of A New Hope. Am I the only person to notice that? Nobody re-editing the movies has.
Actually, Luke yelled "there she-", intending to yell "there she is" but was cut off by Leia's hug.
This comes from Mark Hamill himself and is supported by George Lucas.
I noticed it as well at the end of Star Wars.
@@williamseneyjr.6277 No, he say "CARRIE!" very clearly, there are a few videos on it so I'm not the only one. Mark said that the line was dubbed, then he claimed he said "There she", but why not add in "is!" if it was dubbed, why not finish the sentence if that's what he intended to say? And he also said it was simply a shriek and not words at all but it's clearly a word. Mark obviously doesn't remember it clearly. I think Mark knows he screwed up but just trolling his fans, it wouldn't be the first time he's done it.
I've watched that scene carefully and never heard intelligible words. Always sounded like a happy scream to me.
Nah, Hayden's Anakin made no sense in ROTJ. The counterpoint to the Anakin "died" while young argument is that Vader was redeemed and "died" before older Anakin then physically died so it was perfectly fine for older Anakin to be the force ghost...
Also perfectly fine for him to be young because otherwise it's just some random old dude that hasn't been in the movies at all.
And that version shouldn't be nearly as old as he was a ghost either, dude was like a 60 year old in ghost form.
His personality died on the lava planet. So I think it makes way more sense to go back to his light side look as a ghost. But if he lived like the one comic he's staying bald.
Original force ghost was the ghost of Vader. The new one is Anakin. I don't know how ghosts work but if I could pick I'm going back to the fluff
I've seen it a hundred times and never noticed it was Hayden's head superimposed over Shaw. I simply thought they had Hayden re-film the entire presentation and swapped.
I never once watched any of the stars wars films in my entire lifetime, I was a wee kid when the movies with anakin and obi wan came out back then and I never got the chance to actually see any of the movies growing up as a kid, my parents weren’t into that, nobody in my family was into that and I jsut never bothered to get into it until I turned about 20 then decided to finally watch all the films after all the years of wanting to be part of the fandom and after listening to the many many family guy references , I watched the films and that shit was good I was over there looking at professional light sabers after I got done with all of them, but the point is , the movies made by George Lucas were badass and a major staple , and I saw Return of the Jedi for the first time I thought it was so dope to see Hayden Christensen as one of the ghost , and because I watched the movies in theatrical release I was surprised as hella when I seen him as one of the ghost cause growing up as a kid I remember seeing Hayden’s face everywhere when the phantom menace came out and everything after that, I knew Hayden as that dude from Star Wars that turns into dearth Vader, so watching his ghost appear in the 6th episode was a dope first time watch for me because in my head I was like there’s no way, but this movie came out like years ago, and I was just completely stunned and it wasn’t until I looked it up that I saw it was cgi and that wasn’t the original cut , it still made me feel good that I got to watch the movies for the first time with all the George Lucas edits and changes.
I believe the change in Anakin’s force ghost was completely ridiculous
why
@@puuko9874 because he went from the age of 62 to 21 in a matter of seconds. Makes no sense. Also, most say that is because that was the last point in which Anakin was good, but that’s not true. He died a good man.
but its not about being good
But he never looked like Shaw. He looked like burned when he died. So if you want to talk about continuity, then him suddenly becoming unrecognizable (as in becoming non burned shaw) would make no sense, because he never looked like that. Whereas the force ghost represents their inner self and their relationship to the light side, which would mean at the end of the movie, when darth Vader went back to the light side, his inner self reverted back to when he was last with the light side, as Hayden Christensen’s a anakin. Where as obiwan and toda grew old with the light side which makes sense why they look older. This is how it makes sense to me.
Also darth Vader was in his 40’s when he died so making him look like a grandpa makes no sense. Going by your logic then Christensen’s Anakins force ghost is better because he looks closer to that age. But I believe he reverts back to just before he went to the dark side.
It only makes me watch the movies again to find the scenes that you mentioned. That's pretty much what I have to say 😊
The ghost change is the right call. Vader is only 45 when he dies yet that other actor is like 60+
Nobody. Not a single soul, is actually complaining about Anakin’s eyebrows.
I am
I absolutely respect your opinion, and you aren't wrong; however, there are a couple of things I feel differently about.
Replacing puppet Yoda. I liked the puppet. That said, I'm biased: I've done puppets on TV. (I suspect it's one of those however you first saw it, will be the one you prefer.)
Replacing Shaw with Christensen. I happen to think it was unfortunate that they took Shaw's final moments away. Maybe they could've started with one, and had him age (or de-age) to the other?
As always thank you so very much for the videos.
While I don’t mind the puppet, I mean ESB Yoda is great. TPM Yoda looked really bad imo. It looked very greasy and I guess that was to make him look younger, but it doesn’t match up to the rest of the prequel movies. So I’m that sense replacing the puppet for CG I can understand, if anything for continuity sake.
They kind of did do the Shaw and Hayden being his ghost in canon now. In one of the novels that takes place before the ST, Anakin’s ghost(Hayden) does show up and something happens to his ghost where it would revert back to when he was Shaw after Luke takes his mask off.
Still, in universe, I don’t think healed Shaw as his ghost would make sense. Anakin himself doesn’t know that version or has ever thought of that.
I wonder how it would look with Shaw and Christensen's faces put together... 🤣🤣! I love both actors, by the way!
@@CatherineLee3000 I share your opinion of the actors. (I really liked Christensen in "Life As A House" with Kevin Kline.)
To add another argument for changing Shaw to Hayden's force ghost is that Anakin never looked like Shaw, where the only appearances Anakin ever had was pre Vader or pale, bald, and covered in third degree scar burns. Shaw being Anakin's force ghost makes no sense because never in Anakin's history of being alive has he ever looked even close to that.
Replacing Shaw with Christensen is a non sense, just as much as Lucas wanted us to believe that Anakin became Vader "to save the one he loved". Save her from what and to do what? She would have never agree with Anakin killing younglings to save her baby (among other things). And he knew that very well. Returning to this point. Young Anakin did a lot of atrocious things with no valid reason (according to the story). Old Anakin is actually the one who loved his son so much that did the ultimate sacrifice to save him. At that point if by some mambo jumbo that cannot be explained, he became a Force Ghost just like this, it's fine, but the one who deserves this is the old Anakin, not the young one who was so foolish and evil.
Anakin wasn't old
Nah it was a good change
Anakin was manipulated by Palpatine that is the whole point of Revenge of Sith Anakins mind being twisted by Palpatine.
For the X wings leaving Yavin 4 and assembling I always liked that change, why couldn’t the tower watching guy (with no way to get up there or down for a break) be removed as a change?
It makes as much sense as only being able to get in and out of an X-Wing with a giant ladder.
The bucket lowers down as discovered in the LEGO Skywalker Saga video game.
Removing the man from the tower is a terrible idea, it is an iconic shot. I suspect the the tower would lower the man to the ground.
@@OmegaPointZen Especially if it's telescopic. Then again, I didn't see a hanger crew available on Dagobah to remove the ladder Luke needed to get into his X-Wing. Maybe Yoda did it? 🙄 And how did that large ladder get there in the first place?
Because they weren't gonna remove Lorne Peterson.
I will never support them changing the force ghost to a young Anakin. It completely undermines the last 20 minutes of the film.
Its funny to thing that hayden christensen is 42 years old and darth vader was 45 when he died, so hayden is now old enough to play vader at the time of his death but yet in shows like ahsoka they still deaged him...
1:30 digital yoda needed to happen or else it would not have allowed for his light saber battles in the trilogy
I like the original ending of return of the Jedi it's nice to see what anikin would have turned out of he didn't join the dark side
Bro who was the grandpa who was playing Anakin's force ghost in original movie💀
Your grandpa, pseudo fan.
The first movie is called Star Wars.
I read that Lucas didn't tell Hayden why he wanted to him to dress up like that to film him. I wish he had because he just looks goofy standing there grinning. He could have at least given a better performance if he knew he was going to be a redeemed Anakin force ghost.
what else could he do other than grim
@@annab4r He could have ACTED.
Lucas did it as a way to reward Hayden. He didn't even tell him til later he was in the 2004 DVD release. It was a gift to the actor. And it was gracious even if it makes no sense. Its like the Stewjon thing. Lucas does these things sometimes.
@@matthewgaudet4064 "Remember that time I made you stand there grinning like an idiot as I filmed? Here's a gift for you! Now be gracious.".
Shaw did the exact same thing both just stood there looking
I'm absolutely fine with the first set as well as most of this set. But number 2 SHOULD NOT be on this list. It makes absolutely no sense! If you are going to argue that it makes the circle complete by inserting ROTS Anakin over ROTJ Anakin, then it would only make sense that you would overlay the other two: Younger Obi-wan and Yoda. If the argument is that he becomes a Force ghost to his younger self as a Jedi before he became a Sith, then the argument can be made that Anakin was the Jedi who returned and therefore should have the older Anakin Force ghost.
I feel like the change to anakins force ghost in rotj is completely justified. With the added context of the prequels, Hayden Christensen was the last way anakin looked before he got burned and scarred so having him be sebastian shaw with all his hair and all makes no sense because he never would have looked like that.
What they did to Mos Eisley in a new hope is just painful
I think the re-imagined version of Obi vs. Vader should be officially added to ANH. It makes the scene so much more thrilling than the slow, stiff saber-whacking of the original.
thank god yoda was replaced, puppet yoda is nightmare material 😭
I don't care how old Anakin Skywalker is supposed to be. Its jarring to see a totally different actor playing the guy 5 minutes after we finally got a closeup of his face.
The problem with Hayden Christensen replacing Shaw is several fold.
On an in universe level, every single force ghost appears as old as when they died except him.
On a a meta level I kind of hate how it strips Shaw from his one and only proper, non deformed human appearance in the series. It feels like part of his name was erased from the movie and it's not like we wouldn't have recognized him since we just saw him as dying Vader, although much more mutilated and deformed.
Hayden had his Anakin to Vader moment, I don't get why Shaw had to be stripped from his full Vade -> Anakin moment for a dumb prequels ad.
My opinion is that there just should be no Anakin's force ghost at all. After Episode 3 we all know that force ghost technique was learnt by Joda and Obi-wan *after* Anakin switched to dark side. He simply had no ability to learn about it - the technique was invented by Qui-Gonn not so long ago.
Also, it seems incredibly dumb now, after Anakin killed younglings and dozens of innocent people, he gets all redemption and a ticket to jedi's heaven by simply saving his own son being tortured to death in front of him. This act is not so humble if you ask me, basically every father would do the same in his position. Not enough to redeem dozens, if not hundreds of people killed by him in a cold blood.
Starwars has just been changed and inflated with so much crap its just boring and dull now. That special aura and mysticism is gone.
Four of these were acceptable changes. #2 was not one of them.
i prefer the original theatrical releases and had them on laserdisc. the new 4K77, 4K80, and 4K83 releases are great, taken from original theatrical 35mm prints and scanned at 4K. yeah there were errors in Star Wars, in the end, it didn't matter. not allowing us to buy the original theatrical releases is a missed opportunity.
The best part about the new sequels is they show off how good the prequels really were.
Changin Anakin's ghost gave us the chance to see him in the Ahsoka series and posibly in the future shows. Trust me, episode 5 of Ahsoka and the last 5 seconds of the season finale are worth it. After all, the whole saga of Star Wars is about him, and because of that we are experiencing a redeemed Anakin in present days. That wouldn't have been posible with Sebastian's ghost.
I have a better solution for the Shaw/Christensen dilemma: Make Anakin's force ghost initially be the one of Sebastian Shaw, then he blurs into Hayden Christensen.
Now add a CGI of Obi-Wan's Alec Guiness impressed, and he tries to do the same and becomes Ewan McGregor.
Hell, go a step beyond, put a CGI'd younger Liam Neeson as Qui-Gon showing up behind them and then show Luke as a CGI'd Young Mark Hamill looking at the scene with utter confusion!
Can you buy the De Specialized versions anywhere?
9:12 but when he died he turned into Anakin again, so that change is not justified😐
The Hayden Christensen change makes sense because Sebastian Shaw was how Anakin was supposed to look before so it makes sense, to stay consistent
10:12 why does this guy add an 'a' on the end of everything? 'Alivea' 'Scenea'
Maybe he's Davy Jones
Chaning Anikin from Sebastian Shaw to Hayden Christensen might make sense if he wasn't the only one changed. If anything, it makes the rules here so much murkier. He's younger, why isn't Yoda or Obi Wan? They could have changed all the force ghosts. Plus, we only minutes before saw Shaw as the reformed Anikin, why bring in a third actor in one movie to portray the physical character? It really wasn't justified at all.
Anakin had different circumstances from other two. Yoda and Kenobi didn’t turn to the dark side and/or get their appearances altered after doing so. With Anakin, he was burned alive after turning to the dark when he was in his 20s. I think in universe, it makes less sense with an old and heal version of Shaw since Anakin has never looked like that nor would he know about that one. There is other support in expanded lore that supports the idea that Anakin would most likely appear as his younger self when he was a force ghost.
@@Deathpool_04yes exactly! The force ghost is a representation of your inner self coupled with your relationship with the light side. Anakin never looked like unburned Shaw, so why would that be his inner self? Christensen’s Anakin would be the version of himself that he recognizes, now that he’s back to the light side. Plus Darth Vader died in his 40s so his unburned self wouldn’t look like an 80 year old man anyways
@@Chloe575_ You should read the ROTJ Novelization. The way he describes his younger self and how that’s when he had a lot of the good things in his life compared to when he was an old man as Darth Vader, supports that he’d want to appear as how he did before he became Vader. Yes, he fulfilled the prophecy as an old man but that wouldn’t change his thoughts on his younger self and how there’s nothing that supports him even wanting to appear as a much older but healed version of himself. At most, he’d look like middle aged Hayden. He only looked much older because of him getting burned alive and being on the dark side.
@@Deathpool_04 I definitely will! Anakin/Darth Vader’s lore is so interesting and I’ve only really gotten my info from UA-cam videos.
@@Chloe575_ I will mention that the ROTJ novelization is no longer canon but I don’t think Anakin’s thoughts would change, especially when it comes to how his force ghost would look like.
I do think that it’s fair if people prefer Shaw for out of universe reasons but in universe, Anakin probably wouldn’t want to look like that.
I know Obi Wan learned how to return in the afterlife, but I don't recall Annikin learning...
My only issue with Hayden appearing as a force ghost is the Jedi robes, he literally had the best robes excluding Luke.
You robbed us! Not even at the end did you play the bump. Sheesh
Maybe 2005 Hayden doesn't make sense to be in ROTJ. But maybe he can come back in 5-10 years (whenever he's the correct age) and reshoot both the unmasking and force ghost scenes. Then we don't need to worry about the "wrong age" thing??
Nope wrong, Anakin Skywalker, not Darth Vader died as a young man.
Anakin Skywalker died in ROTS, the movies make it very clear after the he is no longer Anakin, and the Obi Wan show just further proves that point, there was no saving him at that time.