Nordisk Telemark 2.2LW ULTIMATE Review - Following extensive use and extreme limits testing !
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- Nordisk Telemark 2.2LW ULTIMATE Review - Following extensive use and extreme limits testing !
This is my honest review of the Nordisk Telemark 2.2 LW (lightweight) tent. Made from SilNylon - the tent weighs in at just 1010 grams (can be made lighter without stuff sack), which - for a 2 person shelter with two doors - is really quite an achievement by Nordisk.
Quality craftmanship and materials used throughout, with a single DAC Featherlite Green pole completing the setup. I have used this tent in the majority of conditions, including an extreme 'Red' weather warned storm whereby the tent was tested to it's upper limit. As such, I am qualified to provide a review about this tent.
I have left a time index with various bookmarks below which I hope is helpful. I was sent this tent by Nordisk almost a year ago, however there has been no direction of input from them and I am free to provide by unbiased and objective views on the tent.
The fact the tent has two doors is great, especially considering the weight - if two people are in the tent, you don't have to climb over each other to get out. The ability to make the vestibule / inner area bigger to suit your needs is another great feature and extremely useful.
The tent does not come seam sealed - that is standard for the majority of sil-nylon tents (some manufacturers charge an extra fee as this has to be done by hand) - the seams cannot be taped as it does not adhere to the fabric used. Therefore Nordisk recommend that the tent is sealed which is an easy and pleasant task - I did mine on a warm & breezy day and it was dry in a few hours.
Things I would like to see improved:
- Better mechanism to secure the door openings i.e. spring toggle
- Ability to pre-attach groundsheet to main tent so as to be able to pitch as one
To surmise, this is a top quality and very light weight shelter which can easily accommodate two people - it is a 2/ 3 season tent designed to enable to you travel light and fast so you can enjoy your outdoor adventures.
Thanks for watching - if you have any additional questions please let me know in the comments below:
TIME STAMPS / CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Introduction & context
03:05 - Footprint
03:56 - Pitching
05:59 - Corners of tent / Cordura pockets
08:23 - Vents
09:21 - Main Vestibule
11:18 - Secondary vestibule / door
12:58 - Door securing methods & magnetic door tabs
13:41 - Guylines
15:04 - Internal features
16:18 - Ability to adapt vestibule / inner tent
17:13 - Zippers & venting
20:05 - Fabrics
21:56 - Internal loops storage
26:24 - Negatives ?
29:00 - Use of corner poles to make awning
30:00 - Conclusion
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If Nordisk don’t add this to their website then I’d be shocked. It’s spot on old boy👌‘absolutely superb’. It’s always been the tent I want. 👊
Cheers Al - good bit of kit mate - nice and light, perfect for moving fast and light! ATB
I’m off to buy one . Thanks for your honest review 👍
Absolutely brilliant review! What a fabulous tent and great multi features with those corner poles 👍internal pocket, and the adjustable inside feature to widen the vestibule really impressive. Most definitely high up on the list for anyone wanting a lightweight, spacious & multi feature tent. Brilliant review Chris.
Thank you Jane - appreciate the feedback - ATB, Chris
Wonderful review- well thought out, and delivered. Currently watching the back catalogue - great channel. Appreciate the quality of your content.
Thanks pal and welcome to the channel 👍 I see it as a community of like minded individuals 🏕️
Having it for over a year, you have certainly put it through it's paces and a very comprehensive review. It was good to hear it was an unbiased review and you hit on the positives and highlighted a few weak points that you thought were important. I love the small pack size and weight, almost unreliable for such a well made tent and it did looked real easy to get pitched. Cheers Alan
Cheers Al - great little shelter there mate!, ATB - Chris
Just bought this tent, very excited. Again, thanks for the review Chris.
Top tent - will enable some superb adventures!
That was comprehensive...well done mate - that has to be the definitive review...👍👍 - look forward to see it back out in action - T🙂
Fairly detailed to talk about a tent for 30+ mins - but well worth it to show off all the features ! Thanks for watching pal
Brilliant review Chris.
Totally covered everything you could ever want to know about buying this tent really interesting.
👏👏.
Atb Graham 👍
Cheers Graham!
Nice one Chris, that was a really comprehensive review. Good that you pointed out a few easy to rectify but huge improvements that I’m sure Nordisk will take onboard. Brilliant 👍
Glad you enjoyed it Joe - hopefully useful for those considering this bit of kit! ATB pal !
What a great and honest review. Im nearly 68 and started wild camping last year. this video really helped me in my decision to buy the Telemark 2.2LW and I am so glad i did. I have now camped and fly fished some of the remote Llyns in Wales on several occasions, I agree it is a 2/3 season tent but it is an absolutely superb piece of light weight and very well made piece of equipment, when used under the right conditions. Thanks so much for the advice.
Glad it was helpful and thanks for sharing your experiences with this great tent 🎣👍
Thanks, a stellar review. I bought this tent for use later this year, so have only test pitched so far. Watched your video and it is spot on, but I still picked up a couple of tips. Didn't realise the tent had to be seam sealed, so I will be doing that. Thanks for that. Just shows how complete your review is. 😀👍👍
Thanks David - glad you found it useful mate - ATB
I have one. Don't seal it straight away. I've used mine multiple times in heavy rain and it's been fine -- so far.
Great review Chris. I have just bought this tent, based in part on this review. Looking forward to using it. Keep up the good work.
Enjoy the tent Chris 👌👍🏕️
A very detailed and interesting review of the tent Chris. Looks great quality. 👍
Cheers Cath - great bit of kit !
Excellent review. The attention to detail is much appreciated. This is definitely my next tent, Cheers Chris.
No problem at all, thanks for watching.
Excellent review. Very thorough. Makes me wonder why I’m carrying a 3kg tent - old still reliable in all conditions
Thanks Charles - I think the old saying applies here - if it ain't broke...... ATB pal
A really complete honest,comprehensive appraisal and review of this tent.
There are many positive features which make the Nordisk stand out,the weight of the tent being a primary example.
I'm with yourself on the subject of the footprint attachment issue.
I hope Nordisk take the time to respond to your critique of their product and introduce the enhancements to the tent,then that would be a positive result all round.
Appreciate your time,effort, personal thoughts and ideas in producing this review,well done Chris.
ATB.
Mick☺👍
Thanks Mick - appreciate your feedback - ATB, Chris
Really good and in-depth review of an excellent tent. I have owned one and sold it on as I couldn't get on with the lack of height in the bottom of the tent - Feet area. Pop in an inflatable mat and a back sleeper and every camp with rainfall or condensation led to a wet sleeping bag. This was my experience and no reflection on the tent, Nordisk or your fine review. Thank you for sharing. 👍
Thank you for watching - I've not experienced that myself, but thanks for letting me know your thoughts. ATB - Chris
Top review there pal, nothing left to the imagination, you covered everything i reckon. Would definitely expect to see this review on their website. Spot on 👌👍
Cheers Phil - glad you found it useful - ATB
Excellent review...you certainly covered most points I needed to know... Thanks for posting...
No probs
Mate this review is a game changer. Never considered the Nordisk tents, until now haha. It looks brilliant. Some nice features for the weight and size.
Thank you for watching - a great bit of kit - ATB, Chris
Great review Chris - and thorough as always!
It might make an interesting video idea to take a look at what exactly you should do if you were caught out in winds that are too strong for the tent you're in. An emergency guide so to speak :)
Cheers pal, yeah - good shout. I'd just drop the pole and use it like a bivvy bag - stay in situ and make sure corners were pegged out 👍
Phenomenal weight!
A nifty idea there with the tent bag turning into the internal pocket. And I see its inside out therefore eliminating items coming into contact with dampness if you're out for multiple days and have to pack away a wet tent 👍
Another great feature is turning the side poles into king poles for an awning. (I've done this with a trekking pole on my Lanshan but like you say, its much better to utilise something already on the tent)
Great review 👌
Thanks for watching Kt - a great bit of lightweight kit. The 2.2 version is definitely the one to go for IMHO with the two door and extra ventilation
This really was the ultimate review, very well done.
Glad you found it helpful! 👍
Awesome video and awesome tent, thanks
Looks class. Always loved the look of that tent.
Cheers mate - decent bit of kit. The extra door and vent massively add to airflow - the weight is unreal for the features! ATB dude 🏕️👌
Great review thanks. Very thorough and appreciated the detail. There is no perfect tent. It’s great to understand pros and cons of this tent. It does sound like a good piece of kit.
Cracking tent mate! Thanks for watching
fabulous review mate. loved hearing your opinion on it.
Thanks Joe
Incredible review thank you for being so thorough. I want one now, but it's not in stock anywhere!
No worries! Fingers crossed you get hold of one!
Thanks to your review Chris, I went for the 2.2pu version solid tent
Great choice - hope you enjoy using it! ATB, Chris
Once again another great review toying between the MSR Hubba Hubba and the Telemark 2
Cheers Scott - the Telemark is much lighter and more technical - needs a bit more work to maintain a taught pitch, but worth it for the weight!
Nordisk should be proud of their efforts to build you a Shelter you spoke so highly of.
Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada U.S.A.
Thanks for watching - great bit of kit - and ATB from the UK
Another excellent review!
Thanks - glad you found it useful
This is the single best review I have ever seen on this tent. Covered virtually everything Chris, many thanks. I've still not seen two people lying on two sleeping mats with their kits inside the tent before. I'm sold on its one person usage in spring - early autumn. Just not sure whether it's the one for me and my wife together. Would also be good to see which one is better - 2.2LW or the Scarp 1. Cheers mate
Thanks for watching Simon - with the inner pulled to it's widest extent - I think you could get two mats in. Maybe something to show in a future video. The weight is astonishing given the features - a great shelter. ATB, Chris
I haven't got a Scarp 1 but it is 1 lb heavier, (without the extra crosspole ) than the telemark 2.2.
Scarp 1 weighs 4.7 lbs when extra crosspole is used. If extra pole is not used you'll have it's pole loops banging on your tent all night.
When two people are using it, the porch is smaller than that of the Telemark.2.2
With the extra cross pole it will be stronger than the Telemark 2.2
This vid may help. By Paul Messner.- Tarptent Scarp 1 TENT | AWESOME features but could be better.
Very good review ! Thank you !
Glad you liked it!
At last someone talks some common sense regarding condensation with the Telemark 2 tent, I have been using this tent and the 1 man version for years now, and I can honestly say: condensation is no worse than any other tent, I have used. It all comes down to physics, cold outside x warm inside = condensation. A fact of life. It`s a superb little tent I would seriously recommend it to anyone, who is looking for a quality tent.
Thanks Ray - totally agree. There are some absurd statements out there regarding condensation in tents - many people fail to grasp that it is not caused by 'faulty' tents. In most cases, the pitch is incorrect, sagging and the tent has not been vented. It is pretty much unavoidable in Winter conditions when it is cold outside and warm inside - many people fail to understand this. In days gone by, cotton tents were far more breathable and this was less noticeable. I think the 2.2 model with additional door and vent, with slight catenary cut on some of the fly panels vents well - it has to be kept taught and re-tensioned when damp (like all SilNylon tents), but it's a great bit of kit. ATB
What a lovely tent man.
It certainly is - thanks for watching Shaun
Chris The Enabler and Probably The Carlsberg of Reviews😜 and Nobody Does it Better🙏👍⛺️
Cracking Tent Review As Always Chris and applicable on anything you get.
I’m so used to seeing your Tent reviews done in your Back Garden but being out in the Elements adds that something Extra.
The Nordisk is out of my price Range but Looks The Business and we all can dream.
I’ve no doubt your Soulo cannot be compared to the Nordisk as they are totally different Tents but not much Dissimilar in price so it’s Horses for Courses.
Thanks Chris for The Time Taken as always to do this Review and In a real world application.👍🥾⛺️
Thank you Neil - appreciate your kind words mate - ATB pal
Ive bought a Telemark 2 LW and am looking forward to using it this year. Some great features, all shown in your video. It does not come with a separate pole bag as this is integrated into a pocket in the inner tent which is a good design but I like to carry my poles separately as shoving them into such a lightweight tent I feel the sharp edges of the poles might rip it. Stuff sack slightly too small. Bags of room though for 1 person another top review Cheers.
I just roll the pole up within the main tent, no issues. Thanks for watching 👍
I've had the 1 man version of this tent for 2 years & I'm afraid I can't recommend it for UK conditions. I was attracted to the low weight (850-900g for 1 man) & it is certainly a high quality product. However it is hopeless in damp or windy conditions. With a sleep mat & sleeping bag in the tent you can't avoid touching the inner tent, as the vertical edges aren't high enough to prevent this. The separation between the inner & outer is too close, esp in windy conditions, so condensation on the fly penetrates the inner & gets your sleeping bag damp. The fundamental problem is that with the 4 short poles at the corners you can't get a stiff pitch in wind or heavy dew/icing conditions. I have gone back to my old Wild Country Zyphros tent because of this, even though it's ~400 g heavier & I'm actively looking for a new light weight alternative.
I've heard similar reports with the 1 person variant - luckily this is the 2.2 and as such, very different. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the Telemark 1. I find very good separation and clearance within the inner of this. I love tents and have used many in my time, currently trying a Scarp 1 now and impressed so far. The quest for the perfect tent continues!
Great video again mate 👍
Thanks for watching Simon
Great review thanks. I bought the 2LW recently and will be cutting all the overkill (IMHO) webbing straps off the footprint completely and replacing with some simple elastic loops which can be looped over the tent pegs. I hate faffing! 😁
I hate faff too! Let us know how you get on with the mods! ATB, Chris
I am Dutch so I had to google faffing 😉, but I think I know what you mean guys 😊. Last year I bought the Telemark 2 and totally love my little tent! After a week wildcamping in Spain and pitching the tent a lot of times I found out that is was much easier to use 1 peg for both the loops of the footprint and the tent. A tip maybe?
Great review!
Glad you enjoyed it
Really good review
Thanks Danny !
Impressive tent I must say 😎, great choice!
Great bit of kit!
Great video.
I have Telemark 2LW. It's superb.
Door hooks. Yep I use 2 pegs, one for each door. Start from bottom of the door, pull, roll and peg. N.B. check door zip closes before pegging out the poles. If zip is too tight, slightly move the end of the pole towards the zip.Some people have difficulty putting the inner tent toggle through the ring. Method:- roll the toggle and then push through the toggle.To extract- pull toggle to one side, tip it down,push through.
Corner poles- iif you want to peg out the awning it is better to use a stick or buy a spare corner pole. Why? Because taking out three corner poles decreases the stability of the tent. Sometimes the corner pole can protrude from the corner sleeve. Answer. I have used strong cotton and sewn the top of all four corner sleeves and I use a spare corner pole when the awning is out. Could use a stick, but not when cycle camping.
Pegs- pegs are good but if you want stronger pegs, the standard groundhog pegs are too big to fit through the alluminium o rings. Mini groundhogs fit.
Groundsheet - I use Stormguard window secondary glazing. It's polycro. Cut to size. Weighs approximately 2oz.
Don't seal the flysheet straightaway. I've used it many times in torrential rain and it's been fine-- so far.
The foot end of the inner tent is quite steep which makes is easier to access gear at that end.
There are spare inner tent attaching rings. These cannot be replaced while out on the hill because they go through a sewn material loop. Answer- take a short piece of strong thin webbing,The pieces of webbing that are attached to the tent's card labels are perfect. Use this thin piece of webbing to attach spare o ring to material loop. Can't envisage the original inner tent o rings ever breaking.
Side entry is much easier than end entrances.
I have owned Saunders Dalomite(1976)
Ultimate Phazer dome (1981)
Ultimate Peapod mid 80s
Ultimate A frame mountain tent and this tent is the lightest, easiest, most comfortable ( except for Phazer Dome but that weighed 8 pounds,) and quickest to pitch tent that I ever owned...
Sorry for waffling. I'm just love this tent.
Its enabled me to backpack and cycle camp again after a thirty year gap.
Brilliant information here - superb - thanks for spending time to write such detailed tips for other people. ATB, Chris
Are you on top of Pendle Hill? Looks like the wall just up from the stone step stile.
Thorough review with excellent information. Thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it Damien
Good review thanks.
Might have been good to see it with an air mat and sleeping bag inside though, to give a bit more of an idea of the clearance to the inner fabric when lying in bed.
Cheers - that's why I have left cards (and say that), throughout the video showing me using it doing just that over almost a year.
I can see why you like it! Love the awning pole trick! I'd defo rather the telemark than a trekking poke tent for strength. U have me a little torn now but still thinking for only 200g more I could get the scarp, then the crossing poles take it into 4 season (extra weight obvs). Really don't know now - you're gonna have to do a review on your new scarp 1!
The Lanshan 2 is a decent trekking pole tent - but not for 4 season use. Neither is this bad boy - 2/3 season use - to serve an ultralight purpose. The Scarp 1 is a different beast altogether, but if you're thinking of one - just bite the bullet and do it. Beware import duties though and VAT + 13% 😏
@@MCMOutdoors yep that was pretty much my thought process too. I want something I feel confident going on a trek with in Scotland so light weight is a must, but I also want to improve on strength from the one I have. The scarp seems to tick both boxes 👍
See how it goes then - Scarp is defo an option! If you ever fancy a collab camp / vid - give me a shout!
Thanks for the great review, Chris. I've considered buying this tent, but as I'm 1,96m tall it's unfortunately too small. Hopefully Nordisk will make a similar tent which is just a little bit longer and taller.
Thanks for watching - ATB - Chris
Geir, have you found a suitable lightweight tent for your height? I’m 1.95m and a lot are too short.
Hi Jon. I'm considering two tents from a Norwegian manufacturer, but they are very expensive. Either the Helsport Lofoten Superlight Camp 2 or the freestanding Helsport Reinsfjell Superlight 2.
Quality piece of kit mate great video and a top review 👌 can I ask wat gloves you’ve got on there and where there from, cheers 🙌⛺️🙌👊✊
No worries, thanks for watching. Gloves are "Ergo Grip Active" by Hestra 👍
@@MCMOutdoors sound thanks buddy 👊⛺️👊
I have a Nordisk Svalbard Si 1. The Svalbard could do with being a little bigger (lacks in space due to the shape) but the materials and construction are fantastic quality.
Great to hear about the Slavlbard - never tried it but heard very good things!
Great review mate! I'm definitely going to have a look at this for bike packing. Did you mention the price in the video? Might of missed it
Alright Rob, cheers - I don't mention prices because they're always changing and there are various deals online. ATB pal.
I have been looking forward to this review, and as always you nailed it.
I still have some concerns with regards to the sleeping length. It helped that you stretched out the way you did, but may I suggest that you use a sleeping pad next time?
It might just be me, but I think it will give the viewer a more real world example to compare against our own needs
As a 190 cm tall dude using a 9 cm thick pad to sleep on, I feel that most tents, especially the ultralight versions are often too small.
Granted, using a thick winter pad might be a bit much in a 2/3 season tent. But it is just so comfortable :)
But apart from that, I really enjoyed watching this review. It was thorough and informative, and a cup of coffee on me, will be coming your way soon.
And if I end up purchasing the Telemark, or the Oppland, I will tell Nordisk it was all because of you.
The only downsides to these tents, are the names. Both are from counties in Norway, but located in the «wrong» part of the country. If they ever release a tent called Rogaland, I will be the first to get one. But I digress
Thanks again for this review.
Thanks for watching and the feedback. There is still good height even with a mat, due to the vertical sections afforded by the corner poles. I've left a few cards in showing the tent in actual use so people can see it being used as such - ATB, Chris
@@MCMOutdoors Thank you.
I have now owned this tent for a year and camped in all weathers, varying altitude and differing lengths of stay, I purchased from Taunton Leisure, Exeter, UK, in July 2021.
This tent has a terrible problem with condensation, the ventilation is simply not good enough and you will wake each morning to the inside of the outer shell running with water. The whole point of this tent is to be lightweight and to carry when trekking. This means that when you come to packing for the next stage of your journey, you either separate the inner and outer portions and stow them separately in waterproof bags or roll them together, as intended, and accept that the liner will be wet, not damp, wet, when you come to strike camp that evening.
The other problem associated with such a build up of water inside your sleeping area is the cold. I have no scientific basis to this theory but this is the coldest tent I have used and I can only conclude that the water is having a cooling effect. When you are cold you don't sleep and lack of sleep is not good when out in the wild.
This review talks of cooking inside, given the poor ventilation I would exercise very real caution, particularly with any slow liquid burners such as Trangia.
The shape only allows for one inflatable sleep mat, I have a narrow Exped Synmat and there is no room for a second, so please take this into consideration if you are thinking of using for 2.
I believe a tent must provide shelter from the elements, by keeping you warm and dry, the design of the Telemark means more moisture inside, in any conditions, than on the outside after a storm.
I have spoken with the supplier and manufacturer about the condensation issue but the response is that this is a side effect of the materials used.
For £500 I expect more, sorry Nordisk.
Amendment 17.09.22 - My sincere apologies to MCM Outdoors. I have not owned this model since July '21 but the Telemark 2 LW, which is the single door option and I am unable to recall a catenary or curved stitch in the head end.
Thanks for sharing your experience of the Nordisk Telemark 2.2LW
I can only comment with my own experience of this tent and observations in response to what you have written.
I have never experienced condensation issues with the tent - it has two vents and two doors which can be zipped further down as required - the ventilation is ample for this size of tent. There is also a slight catenary cut along the flysheet at the head end - which also allows for air to enter the vestibule areas.
I have also never experienced water inside of the sleeping area of the tent - which is a separate inner tent.
The ventilation is more than ample for cooking - which I have done, without issue; on countless occasions. I would never advise using a liquid fuel stove inside a tent, regardless of size or material used in its construction. Any cooking inside a tent, requires caution.
The inner can be widened to allow for two sleeping mats - obviously pad width varies depending on the particular model you intend to use.
Condensation is an unavoidable aspect of physics - it has nothing whatsoever to do with the materials used - and everything to do with temperature differential between two areas, meeting on a surface. I have used PU tents, which suffer from condensation - therefore it is simply not true that the flysheet material of this tent (siliconised nylon), 'causes condensation'. It can be alleviated by more airflow and of course a cotton tent, in theory allows for quicker evaporation of condensation - but it will still happen if the conditions are right.
Your comments are subjective to your particular experiences of this tent - to which I respectfully disagree based on using this tent in various different weather conditions.
Thanks for your input, Chris
Thank you very much!
You're welcome!
This is a really good video and allows you to see the tent in great detail with more information provide that the average tent manufacturers own productions. You have hit on all the positives of this tent but as user for the last 12 months I have a slightly different opinion.
The tents main selling points are its weight, pack size and the space inside for a single occupant and accompanying kit. If you are completing multi day hikes the above are exactly what you want from a tent. The build quality and materials are generally all first rate with no corners cut. Its easy and quick to set up even for a first-time user.
Before purchasing the tent, I read the reviews with users experiencing condensation but as this was mainly with the single door version, I thought the extra door and vent with the 2.2 would go some way to solve this.
As I used the tent my view of the views became mixed. In the right conditions its excellent with all the advantages listed above making the tent exactly what I wanted. As conditions change then some of the disadvantages became apparent.
Condensation is still an issue, in decent weather with one door open / part open (or even two) no problem. If the weather turns and you have to hunker down, then you’re getting condensation on the inside of the flysheet. This happens with all tents but is excessive with the Telemark.
Its very flappy. Again, not an issue in decent weather but once it turns the tent flaps a lot. The advantages the lightweight materials used, that is one of the tents main selling points works against it here. All tents flap in the wind to some extent but this is excessive compared to tents I have used previously. The problem here is that the fly sheet is constantly hitting the tent inner. Add the condensation issue and you’re getting wet.
The tent floor is lightweight as expected to keep weight down but looks easy to damage so you have to choose you camp spot carefully. As a precaution I bought the ground sheet, but this addition begins to dent the weight advantages this tent gives you. This may be a little over caution on my part, but I was wary of the floor being punctured.
It’s a marketed as a three-season tent but it has some 4 season features that do not benefit the user. For example, the fly comes right down to the floor. Great in foul weather but my view is overall this tent is not suitable for poor (I am not talking Scotland in January but a British March or October in the lakes) conditions. This restricts ventilation and adds to the condensation problem.
In my opinion this is an April - September tent. Multiday hikes in generally decent weather its great. The problem is the price. I got mine with the ground sheet for £460.00. An alternate three season tent, slightly heavier (1.5kg ish) with better ventilation but more robust when the weather tuns can be found for well under half of what I paid for the Telemark. The extra 300-400 grams over the Telemark weight (with groundsheet) would be worth it for the cost saving alone never mind the other benefits related to condensation and stability.
It’s a specialized item, I would say the average hiker in the UK out for long weekends etc. should think carefully before shelling out £400 - £500 unless speed and pack weight are the main priorities.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Jay 👍
Hi Jay, are you able to give som examples of alternate tents that are more robust, with better ventilation and less price? I'm so unsure of which tent to go for ..
@@googleuser25 same here
Excellent thorough review and well explained it's not a tent for me though yes it's 2 doors but only 1 vestibule all manufacturers say there 2 people but they really arnt there great for 1 person and there kit also once you've got your mat in and pillow the inner is way 2 close to your face.the extending vestibule is a good idea though.also it's not just Nordisk who do it but when you're spending a lot of money on a tent it should be already seam sealed so for me there's 2 many bad things for me but thanks for taking the time and doing a great review
Thanks for watching Craig - I've just bought another SilNylon tent and it does not come seam sealed - I explain why in the video - yes, it would be nice - but sadly you cannot mass produce SilNylon tents and tape the seams as it does not adhere - so they have to be done by hand. Unless of course you pay 3 times the price for a Hilleberg - but they are out of reach for many. ATB pal - Chris
@@MCMOutdoors I totally understand and you did explain it really well it's just a pity they don't seal them as with anything it comes down to price
Defo mate - in an ideal world hey - ATB pal 👍
Thanks for the great review. Which would you prefer as far as use & overall value, this tent or the Hilleberg Soulo?
Cheers Ted - two very different tents mate. Soulo for real bad weather and stormy winds, Telemark for 2 / 3 season use for a MUCH lighter pack weight
I own the one-door version for two years now and like the tent in general. It is excellent for solo bicycle travelling due to its small size and weight. It stands heavy autumn storms and keeps you dry even after two days being pitched in heavy rain.
The problems have been outlined in the comments: A lot of condensation due to restricted air flow. When pitching it under trees it is not that bad. The inner tent has only two triangle mesh windows and the outer tent is flush to the ground, so there is not much circulation, but keeps you quite warm. In the morning the foot side of the inner tent is wet and your sleeping bag easily becomes wet when turning around at night. I wrap my rain jacket around the lower sleeping bag to prevent a wet sleeping bag. In addition, the inner tent tends to stick at the outer tent which shows heavy condensation in the morning, even with maximum tension at the outer tent. But on the other side, it dries quickly. I have a microfiber cloth ready to quickly wipe it dry in the morning.
I would not recommend using the sewn-in bag for packing. You will have to fold the tent with and through the open zip. Folding a soaking wet tent with an open zip results in a wet inner floor when pitching it up the next day. With zip closed the floor will be also wet, but not that bad. I prefer folding it with zip closed, so the zip cannot damage anything. It easily fits in the provided bag.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, I guess the two door version aliviates issues around reduced airflow as I've never suffered problematic condensation in this version which has 2 doors. Thanks for watching 👍
Love the video, thanks!
Also recently got the Nordisk Telemark 2.2 LW but not had chance to use it yet and didn’t actually realise it needed Seam Sealing first, which product did you use to do yours with mate? Cheers
Just used Silnet mate - got it online. Rushed mine a bit but lots of useful videos online - decant the stuff, dilute with white spirit and paint over seams carefully, taking your time on a warm day and allow to dry fully, ideally overnight.
@@MCMOutdoors that’s great, thanks!
I have the Nordisk Halland 2 LW in the beautiful autumn red. it is very much like your tent but double poled with a large vestibule at the front, and only weighs 1.5 kg. I got it so there was room for the dog. I was wondering if I had to seam seal it, but you answered my question. I haven’t been out in it yet, but looking forward to it.
Thanks for watching - I have the Halland 2LW also in the red - a lovely tent - I might be using it tomorrow but will have to keep an eye on the weather.
Hi Chris, thanks for your very informative review. It looks a great tent. However, can't see I'd be able to fit our two sleepmats in, ie; Xtherm and neo air - both large. Great that it's so lightweight tho, especially for multiday hikes 🙌
Thanks for watching Donna - have a nosey at the dimensions on the Nordisk Website. ATB, Chris
@@MCMOutdoors Cheers Chris. Will do. Thanks 👍 Take care
As Chris said you can see the exact dimensions on the nordisk website - but it's definitely not possible to fit two large sleeping mats inside.
If you're using this tent for two people you have to be prepared to make some sacrifices to fit in :)
Maybe look at the Halland (or my favorite, the Oppland) tent if you want a super light tent with a bit more space for two.
Good shout that - I do have the Halland too Donna - you may wish to wait and see the review on that - it's epic too! Plus the Oppland is basically a nightclub for the mountain 🤣
@@Laudrengen hey that's brilliant, thank you so much! 👍😊
Hi Chris, great video, after much debating I’ve decided on this tent, partly based on your review, I ordered a seam sealer but realized after ordering that it needed to be a silicone based sealant, would you have any recommendations? Maybe one you have used on this tent that has worked well for you? All the best this Christmas and I look forward to more videos, great work pal 🎉
Cheers, I just use "Silnet" - as long as its a silicone based one that will be fine. Make sure to thin it out with white spirit and paint on the seams with a stiff brush - do NOT use the tube / applicator as it comes. Loads of great youtube videos showing how to do it online. Great tent. Superb quality and insane weight.
@@MCMOutdoors ah thanks mate, all the best, look forward to more content 👍👍
Hi, Chris,
I'm a subscriber impressed by your review passion.
We've seen dozens of videos of Telemark 2.2LW and Holland 2LW in two months and have not decided which products to buy.,If you only choose one after considering all of the two products, which product and what color would you choose?
I really ask you for help because I am changing my decision every day.
Answered above pal 👍
Another top video Chris, thank you.
What do you think of the Hestra gloves? Looking for a new pair of gloves and noticed these seem to be your go to pair?
Thanks Darren, re the gloves; I love them and really rate them. Yes, they are expensive - but they last. So instead of replacing every year or so, you save - they are ultra quality.
@@MCMOutdoors Thank you for getting back to me mate. I hear and read nothing but good things about them. Are your ones the Ergo Grip Active?
Yes mate
@@MCMOutdoors Super, think I'm sold! 👍
Hi Chris, thank's for this top quality review, very informative. Just a question, if you wouldn't mind answering, what is your personal preference, Scarp1 or Telemark 2.2LW? Thanks Buddy. ATB.
Thanks for watching - I've only used the Scarp once so have no real view on it yet. That said, although they have some similarities, they are very different tents designed for very different conditions. ATB, Chris
@@MCMOutdoors Because of where I live, I have to fly-in to the UK to do my trips, because of that I tend to do long distance, multi-week hikes, so I'm now seriously considering the Telemark 2.2LW to replace my Lanshan2 (which has served me brilliantly, but want something a bit more robust in wind etc). I WAS about to press go on the Scarp1, but I'm predominantly 2-3 season..... This is a brilliant service you provide Chris, real value, and most importantly I trust what you say. Much appreciated Bud, much appreciated. ATB
Thank you mate - I appreciate the feedback and I'm pleased to hear you get value from the content I produce. The Telemark is a superb tent.
@@MCMOutdoors - another awesome video. Could you elaborate on the different use conditions for the Telemark vs Scarp? thanks :)
Nordisk Tents looks really good. I nerver had One.But Maybe the next One???
Great tents and a great brand - I love the Telemark - ATB, Chris
Great review! What brand is your bonnet?? Very nice!!
Thanks - Dakine 👍
Excellent review, many thanks. I am 6ft 3inches tall and seriously considering getting one for bike packing. Could I ask one question, what gloves were you wearing please? I have subscribed, keep up the great work…
Ergo Grip Active by Hestra 👍😁
@@MCMOutdoors many thanks 👍
Hi mate. Great review. Enjoying your videos. Am almost pulling the trigger on this tent as I have saved for ages for it. It was between this and the terra nova laser compact 2.
What makes this tent 2/3 season rather than 3/4?? Is it just the weight of the fabric used?
Thanks
Leon
Lighter fabrics, one pole - definitely 2 / 3 season. A very specialist, lightweight tent - perfect for ultralight trips.
@@MCMOutdoors yeah that’s what I thought. Think it will be worth it though as it seems like a great piece of kit. Thanks for getting back buddy. Keep the great content coming. Cheers
I have the 1P-version of this tent, and definitely I can say I like it, its a (mostly) smart construction, and I regularely use it. But there are points they have messed up somewhat in my opionion, and were neglected in this review:
Footprint: The floor of the tent is so thin that I hardly dare to use it without the footprint. Therfore you may add the weight of the footprint to the tents weight (300! g for the 1P-version, slightly more for the 2P-version I guess). As you have mentioned, the footsprints straps are not exactly a smart construction. They are 1. massive (what for?) and 2. hardly long enough to connect to the tents pegs. I guess I will cut these off and replace them with some normal, LONGER cord.
Magnetic door tab: Who will close it when you are inside the tent? Usually it doesnt close by itself. I have tried closing it from inside but no chance.
Height of the foot area: As you have demonstrated, its just high enough if you are not using a mat. Using an air mat will add about 6 to 9 cm in height. Then any person taller than about 160 cm will definitely touch the tents inner AND outer fabric when lying on its back. I have experienced it, the sleeping bag definitely gets wet in when there is condensation. Some kind of semicircle-construction of that foot area would be perferable. However, in my opinion most comparable tents are even worse in this matter.
Be aware that this tent is not made for strong winds, thats not a complaint, just a fact.
Hi, I didn't say the tent was made for strong winds - I state it is 2-3 season which it is.
Re the door fasteners, I'm not sure what you mean - I close them, when I'm inside the tent - they're magnetic - it doesn't matter what side of the door you're on - magnets are magnets.
Re the groundsheet, it's made of heavier material than the fly so I don't quite agree with your point here.
The one person variant isn't really comparable with this particular model. Thank you for watching though.
F*ckin' Magnets, How Do They Work?
Cracking review. Found you after appearing together with Bushman and Blue. You on the West Pennine Moors? Just come back in from being up there myself ATB Sel
Not too far from there - thanks for watching pal - much appreciated 👌
What gloves you wearing Chris? Great upload not the style of tent i get on with but it does look good. ATB Steve
Hestra 'Ergo Grip Active' pal
Nice video, friend. I see a lot of similarity between this and the Hilleberg Akto. Might you have any experience with the Akto as well (for comparison)?
Hi Josh, I've never tried an Akto. This is firmly a 2 / 3 season tent - very light and technical and designed for ultralight type camping.
Great review 🤙🏽 you mentioned that the fabric of the inner doesn't come close to your face/feet, but how does that change when using a 4" mat? I'm about your height (and a bit wider!) so just curious if it allows for a winter pad in there before I bite the bullet
You'd definitely be closer, especially with your head raised on a pillow. Check out the dimensions on the Nordisk website to be absolutely sure.
Very comprehensive review. But a little light on the negatives. I have the two man version with one door. Otherwise it's the same tent.
I've used it extensively hiking in Scotland in May as well as on Dartmoor in June. I like the tent. It is very light, easy to pitch and offers a lot of space for the solo camper. But I would add the following caveats: It needs to be pitched with the short panel facing the wind. Otherwise, even in light rain and wind, the long panel sags and water then collects in an ever increasing pool. This makes the outer skin sag onto the inner lining and condensation follows. This can make the foot of the sleeping bag very wet.
As has been pointed out the height of the tent is too low at each end if you are using an airmat such as the Big Agnes Insulated Axl (a comfortable, very light mat). This lifts your nose very close to the roof of the tent and if (as advised) it is wet and windy (as it often is in Scotland), you get wet as the outer panel the inter lining into your face.
Essentially, this otherwise very good tent needs a re design where the height of the tent is raised by (say) 15 centimetres. This would give more height in the tent (in itself a good thing) and also accommodate the inevitable billowing of the material in conditions that are typical in the seasons it is designed for.
Thanks for sharing your views of your version. Tents with one pole only and large panels will always be at the mercy of the wind to some degree as there is simply less supporting structure. Luckily, I've never had any pooling of water on the many camps I've used this on. I do have to get out and re tension the corner guys due to the silnylon absorbing water - but if you keep it taught, it shouldn't ever be an issue. Cracking bit of kit for the weight - very technical yes and definitely not for strong winds - thanks for watching & ATB
@@MCMOutdoors I do make the guys (and thus the fabric) as taught as possible. But it is the nature of the material used on the shell that stretches and billows in the wind (just look at the Nordisk wind tunnel video on their site). I disagree that all single hoop tents suffer this problem. The Zephyros 2 Wind Country tent (I also have) is a single hoop tent and does not billow in the wind. It has central props at the head and toe of the tent that 'steeple' the shell so avoiding water collecting in a wind well. The shell fabric is also stretches less. However, the Zephyros is nigh on 700gms heavier than the Nordisk. This makes it a compelling choice for lightweight hikers. Users just have to be aware of the caveats in pitching and Nordisk might take note and consider how to mitigate this shortcoming in future designs.
I have the Telemark 2 (same tent, but only one door), with footprint. Few of my observations for use on bike-trips: The inner tent should have been a few cm higher at the foot-end: I'm 1.86cm and have shoe size 44. If I use my summer sleeping bag, I just about touch the inner tent when laying on my back. With a thicker sleeping bag, this is almost unavoidable.
Take care with the 4 poles at the corners: when biking, everything vibrates, and they can work themselves out of their loops and punch a hole in the tent. Happend to me. I fixed the tent (easy with a bit of silicone and the supplied bit of spare silnylon), and sewn the pole-pockets shut. Now I just bring an extra bit of tent pole.
I removed the straps of the footprint, and instead use a loop of elastic cord, which (permanently) fits in four of the same plastic snappers that attach the inner tent to the outer tent. The loops also attach around the ends of the tent pole, so I can pitch everything in one go. I can fit tent plus footprint all in the stuff sack. The poles and pegs are packed separately. Don't want another hole in the tent.
Good tip re the footprint - can you give some more detail on that as I would like to do the same.
@@MCMOutdoors I used some thin elastic (the kind you find inside tent poles to keep them together). This just fits through the plastic hook that attaches inner to outer tent. It sits on top of the rubber that attaches the inner tent to that same hook.
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Hi, I have used my 2.2 quite a few times and I agree with your plus points. I cannot achieve the marvellous uprightness at the corners which you show. Consequently the inner meets the outer v easily and I need to spend more time drying everything in the morning. Also, its a noisy tent if there is a breeze or more. However, if you want lightweight, there's going to be noise I guess.
Thanks for sharing your experience with the tent
Excellent, review when you seem sealed, did you do the inner of the fly or the outer?
Hi John, I did the outer, but on potential ingress points, ie where door toggles are sewn on, I also did underneath on those specific points. Hope that helps 👍
Cheers
I’ve been looking for a soulo bl but no chance of getting one anywhere. This tents been the mystery box for me lately. I’ve seen two cracking reviews now from yourself in England and bushcraft padawan down in wales. Do you think it could cope with summit camping on Scotlands Munro’s?
It's a great tent for the right conditions and application - requires a bit more effort to maintain a taught pitch when the air becomes damp, but it's not a hassle. 2 / 3 season use - so depends on the weather conditions you expect - but an outstanding shelter for the weight - especially with the two entrance / exits
@@MCMOutdoors cheers bud, so far it’s top choice but need to do a tad more research for the wind and rain side. 👍🏻
Hi, what is the condensation like in the tent? A German you tuber has a vid and while in German the footage he provided was streams of water running down inside the tent inner.
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Zero condensation during a winter camp. I can only suggest those experiencing condensation are doing so because it's either a) inevitable due to environment conditions and physics or b) not utilising the ventilation correctly
nice tent, good review, new ruscak too?
Cheers pal - no I've owned this for many years, built up a fair bit of kit over 26 years or so now
How does this compare to the Vango helium F10 UL2? Also cooking in the vestibule presumably is only limited to cooking with gas? Not alcohol stove safe with an alcohol stove?
I do like that it seems to stand firmer in shape than the F10 UL 2 vango.
Original stuff sack are NEVER big enough to use in the field: they are more intended for keeping the item tidy on a shelf…
I’ve used a larger fluorescent yellow rip-stop stuff sack for the tent - I use the original stuff sack to hold the pole.
Do you think that you could use the same pegs for the footprint and the tent?
Thanks for watching Bob, I don't think you could achieve the right tension on the footprint using the same pegs, something I'll try - but I prefer the ability to attach the groundsheet.
@@MCMOutdoors thanks! I like the idea of being able to attach it, but in the meantime being able to use the same pegs would reduce the number of pegs needed…
Just noticed that Nordisk now has PU version with several upgrades of this tent, any plans to test that out?
Only if Nordisk want to send one 😅 sounds great though - the Telemark 2.2LW is a fantastic little shelter
Looking at this and the southern cross 2
Cant decide.
Two very different tents mate..... This is a 2 / 3 season only - designed to be ultralight for fast moving. It's a very technical tent and superb if you want to go minimal but not expecting ferocious conditions. I love mine. Sub 1kg - it's mental.
@MCM Outdoors thanks for the reply I usually tarp camp in the woods minimal style in decent weather but i think for any mountain or coastal camping in windy wet weather a 4 season tent would be the way to go then.
I own Nordisk Telemark 2 LW and I find it very drafty (even with a tiny bit of wind outside) and the condensation is absolutely ridiculous (in the morning the tent is soaking wet). Anyone with a similar experience?
Hi, drafts indicate airflow, which carries away moisture ie condensation?
The 2.2 version has the extra door, which I use for venting. So maybe this is why mine has been okay?
Hope you manage to find the right solution 👍
On the inner do you know why there is the extra zips. I’ve never understood it
Love mine btw
Yes mate, they're just spares so that if the main breaks, you can still zip open / closed 👍
Hello there . I have this tent the 2.2 LW. Have u ever had problems on the fly hitting the inner tent .when it's windy and raining . Letting water into the tent . As I have a down sleeping bag .
The fly is made from silnylon and absorbs water like any other silnylon tent, so you have to keep it tensioned correctly. I do that and have no issues mate 👍 most tents in strong wind will have the fly making contact with the inner
I am completely torn between this tent and the "Fjallraven Abisko Lite 1" - I feel like both have pros & cons that out-do each other, and I'm split down the middle on which I prefer
Does anyone have any advice on either product?
Two very different tents - the Fjallräven is said to be 4 season, the Nordisk 2 / 3 - although both light - the Nordisk would be the one to choose if weight and packability are your priority and also not aiming to camp in very bad conditions, whereas the Fjallräven would be the one to choose for fouler weather and all year round camping. Nordisk comes in at just a shade over 1kg which is great. Both are fantastic tents and although similar in appearance, are definitely built with different things in mind. Hope this helps.
Looks well decent, 2 entrances nice venting. Bit pricey.
Great bit of kit mate - look at Hilleberg prices, often over double this, so I think it's good value considering the weight and features. ATB pal
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Cheers dude!
Is it possible to fit 2 sleeping pads inside of 60cm wide (and 184cm long)?
Should be - have a look at the diagram on the Nordisk website - shows all the dimensions - ATB, Chris
@@MCMOutdoors Yes, I did, but based on the measurements there, it is 10 to 15cm too small. You showed that the inner tent can expand a bit, so I was wondering if it could expand enough to accomodate for the two 60cm sleeping pads. It is not really clear on the Nordisk website if the measurements on the diagram are fully expanded or not.
That's a bloodly good tent but would I spend £595.00 quid on one probably not that's just crazy money for a tent that's up there with the Hilleberg tents lol 🤣
Thanks for watching pal - there ain't no Hillebergs for that money 🤣🙃
Nice video. Thanks for posting. But I don't think a 2/3 season tent is worth £500
Thanks for watching 👍
How does it performs in high winds?
It's designed and marketed as a 2 season tent
I don't understand why they'd use material that "absorbs" water lol Trying to choose z tent has been an absolute nightmare. I've literally looked at reviews for every tent known to man, and the more expensive they get, it seems the more issues they can have if you don't do x, y, z or half a dozen mods 😂
It's just a symptom of the fabric. The light weight nature, flexibility, stretch factor and waterproof (when coated with silicon), makes it ace. Good luck in your search 👍
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Thanks for the detailed review. However myself and a mate have owned the Telemark 2 for nearly 3 years now and both had constant issues everytime we use them with excessive condensation inside the tent, i've used it in many different weather conditions aswell.
Last thing is i'm never a huge fan of a review when the company gift it to you. It's just too biased in my opinion.
Hi Paul, this is a Telemark 2.2 LW - I disagree with your views about bias but I guess we're entitled to our own views. Thanks for watching pal 👍
@@MCMOutdoors yes i know it's a slightly different model but it's based on the same tent. Difference is the Telemark 2 has 1 door. However i did some research after my condensation issues and it's a very well known concern with these tents. Infact Nordisk advise you pitch the feet end into the oncoming wind to aid ventilation, this helped slightly but still a problem.
My point about reviews from influencers that get given freebies is most folk take the positive weighted views with a pinch of salt as you'd get no more freebies if you slated them 😂
Being based on the same tent doesn't really take into consideration the fact there is an entire other door, plus vent - so it's very different, maybe that's why I've never had any issues with condensation in this particular model due to these very different things. Positive weighted views is another way of saying 'bias', which as I explained in the video - I was not obliged to say anything positive about this tent. I have over 15 different tents now from various manufacturers, therefore I'm not really bothered about getting "freebies" as you put it as I don't need any more gear - as such, the integrity of my channel and trust I've built up with my viewers is far more important than an extra free tent that I don't actually need. ATB pal :-)
I’m one of them who doesn’t like a saggy inner. They’ll be sold out now 🤩
Nice taught inner on this bad boy mate! Thanks for watching!