Great review and very realistic description of the build process! As a big fan of the OMPHobby M2 in all its versions (M2 EVO, M2 V2 and M2 Explore) and the M1, the M4 will be a MUST for me. As I have never built a heli coming in a set I was afraid if I will manage this. You made me believe its possible!! Cant wait to build anf fly my own M4! Greetings from Poland!!
All I would add is that if you do end up buying one, as I believe I said in the video, try following the manual as closely as possible and try not to forget or miss anything. Other than that enjoy building it and have fun!
@@rchelicopterhub Thanks you two!! I have already one question: Did you use any other Loctite than the blue one (243). Did yiu have the Loctite 648 for the bearing seats? Best greetings!!
Meanwhile I am building my own OMPO M4, as well inspired by your kids! So far (frame, esc, servo layout, motor assembly, all till step 2 - 4 in the instruction went well! I hope you have great joy flying this machine!! Thanks for the great inspiration and all the best!!
Love your videos so useful as regards flywing F1 control this is the only way I have managed to fly a Heli I fly normal aircraft no problem but Heli,s continue to elude me as they are naturally unstable I try my best I am trying to find a flybarless unit that will allow me to get a stable flight envelope , so I can get some confidence . I love the M4 it looks fantastic and I would love to build it I have the M2 I did manage to fly this a little . I really do not want to continue GPS flying and want to fly like you guys !!!!!
Good decision :) It's matter of time and practice. Everyone can get to a certain level. Thank you for your feedback anyways. To be honest, the M4 is still very stable at us. It's still well recommended. Because there wasn't demand for any stabiliser and GPS control presentation, finally we didn't make it. But honestly: this heli is as good as it is now.
UA-cam recommendations are on point. I have been following the development of the M4 over on Jonas Wackershauser's channel for quite some time, & it's amazing to see that it's finally here. You guys did a fantastic job with reviewing the M4 here. =^/.~= PS: You have earned yourselves a new subscriber... with notifications enabled.
The H1 can be tricky, but there was no real demand to test this heli that way, so we skipped it. Once we can allocate some time to do a test of H1, we will. Until then, what was your problem?
Well, we have no experience with the other one, so it would not be fair to speak against either one in favour of the other. Also we don't get any commission if you choose the M4. But they are on two different approaches. OMPHobby is delivering a good heli and you are free to choose your desired FBL and receiver. By my feeling RS4 is more around its own FBL unit. They have the same roots, but they are on different paths.
One thing is certain: The OMPHOBBY M4 is a great heli with an even greater manual. If you choose this, you won't regret it. However this does not mean, if you choose the RS4, you will, just we don't know how that will turn out for you, as we have no experience with that at all.
I bought one of these and am currently building it. This will be my first heli I've done completely on my own and The "radio setup " in my opinion is the hardest part so it remains to be seen if it's beginner friendly or not🤷
@@rchelicopterhub I am using the spectrum fc 6250 and I watched the Brian Phillips RC channel and did everything he did but mine did not turn out like his. The tail servo is not moving the way it should. I'm pretty sure it's something in the radio because I've tried other servos and they all do the same thing. First of all the cyclic servos are running on 333 MHz and the tail servo won't move on anything but 560 MHz and it auto moves to the left endpoint. If I move the stick to the right it will move but then will auto move back. I can't seem to find anyone who can help me with this. Nobody in my club can/ wants to help me figure it out so it's been sitting in my garage collecting dust. Very disheartening and frustrating. I think I may know someone who can help but the whole point was for me to finally do one myself without help. Very much sucks!!!!
Olá gosto do seus vídeos acho bem legal . Os modelos também que vocês aprecentam também são ótimos. Aqui no Brasil esse modelo são muito caros por causa de imposto e importação. Mas mesmo assim não desistimos do Hobby. Por esses motivos não temos muito acesso a modelos maiores por causa do preço. Mas adoramos o Helimodelismo.
Sorry for replying in English, but my Portuguese is limited to couple of words :) Modelling is cheap nowhere. I can't tell you a single country where this would be considered cheap sadly. Bigger models cost as much as a second hand car - or more. But still we try to do our bests. And TBH this is the reason, why we can introduce a very limited number of new models. We are not financed by anyone, so we have to allocate the budget when we want to do something - from the family budget. But never give up!
Not knocking this thing but it looks like a slightly redesigned Oxy. I'll stick with Oxy, not a fan of the direct drive, too proprietary and don't really see any advantage. But that's just me, I'm sure they will sell lots of them.
Thank you for your feedback. I'm not sure what you mean with this redesign, because there are similarities to Oxy helis as well as others, because at the end of the day all helis share the same principals. But it is a genuine OMPHOBBY model. We highlighted that in the video, the DD can be some sort of risk, but so far so good. The benefit of DD is the simplicity.
@@rchelicopterhub It is! I have really had to hold my finger back from pulling the trigger on an M4. Your great review has not made that any easier! Nice review.
This is not even close to being a beginner heli. Don't do it. Get a simulator and a blade nano (or similar) until you can comfortably do nose-in and figure 8s forward and backwards (upright and inverted). Then M2, then M4 etc etc. You will save youself a lot of $ and frustration by taking this advice.
@@rchelicopterhub well i prefer kits i have build a very old flybar heli and that was my first time building or even seeing a heli and top of that i have to program the thing to make it fly autonomously with a gps on it have to say it was pretty frustrating in the starting mostly cause i was unfamiliar with the heli stuff but in the end i got it to work pretty good I would say here is the video ua-cam.com/video/SKakmo89xzI/v-deo.html
If a beginner relies on a experience person for maiden flight, than it's not a beginner helicopter. She should have been flying something more towards beginners
Thanks, but let me disagree: ANY RC HELICOPTER maiden flight requires an experienced pilot. This is like you have a user friendly car, which is easy to drive, easy to park, easy to use. Does this mean your car does not need a car mechanics time to time?
This was a nice video in regards to listening to a “beginner” impression and experience of helis. Thanks.
Thank you. I'm not sure what the double quots ment :)
Nice and honest review, great! Thanks 😊
Thank you, we tried...
Great review and very realistic description of the build process! As a big fan of the OMPHobby M2 in all its versions (M2 EVO, M2 V2 and M2 Explore) and the M1, the M4 will be a MUST for me. As I have never built a heli coming in a set I was afraid if I will manage this. You made me believe its possible!! Cant wait to build anf fly my own M4! Greetings from Poland!!
Thank you for your fantastic feedback. And best of luck for the building. If you have any question @ToncsiRC or myself are happy to help you.
All I would add is that if you do end up buying one, as I believe I said in the video, try following the manual as closely as possible and try not to forget or miss anything. Other than that enjoy building it and have fun!
@@rchelicopterhub Thanks you two!! I have already one question: Did you use any other Loctite than the blue one (243). Did yiu have the Loctite 648 for the bearing seats? Best greetings!!
@@nativespeaker5114 no, all bearings are factory assembled. Only Loctite 243 will be necessary.
@@rchelicopterhub Thats great to know!!! Best greetings!! :) I will get my Baby (M4, not a shouting one :D )in Charm Orange in June!! Cant wait!!
Meanwhile I am building my own OMPO M4, as well inspired by your kids! So far (frame, esc, servo layout, motor assembly, all till step 2 - 4 in the instruction went well! I hope you have great joy flying this machine!! Thanks for the great inspiration and all the best!!
Thank you, and we wish you the bests. Yes, we (especially Toncsi) loves this heli.
I will be starting my build of the OMP M4 soon. Which version of VBAR would you recommend for a beginner?
Love your videos so useful as regards flywing F1 control this is the only way I have managed to fly a Heli I fly normal aircraft no problem but Heli,s continue to elude me as they are naturally unstable I try my best I am trying to find a flybarless unit that will allow me to get a stable flight envelope , so I can get some confidence . I love the M4 it looks fantastic and I would love to build it I have the M2 I did manage to fly this a little . I really do not want to continue GPS flying and want to fly like you guys !!!!!
Good decision :) It's matter of time and practice. Everyone can get to a certain level. Thank you for your feedback anyways. To be honest, the M4 is still very stable at us. It's still well recommended. Because there wasn't demand for any stabiliser and GPS control presentation, finally we didn't make it. But honestly: this heli is as good as it is now.
she speaks good english . The future of rc flying 😎😎👍🏻👍🏻
She is almost native. Her English is better than her Hungarian :)
Well the XK110S is the perfect helicopter for beginner, the bigger size are very lethal ! Even the M1 and the M2 for example
Facts. Neither the M1, M2 or M4 are not beginner helis.
UA-cam recommendations are on point.
I have been following the development of the M4 over on Jonas Wackershauser's channel for quite some time, & it's amazing to see that it's finally here.
You guys did a fantastic job with reviewing the M4 here. =^/.~=
PS: You have earned yourselves a new subscriber... with notifications enabled.
Thank you very much indeed.
Hi,
What flyberless electronic you chose ?
Actually we are using VBar at this model, but all good FBLs can be great.
what did you do to get rid of the tail wagg?
Unfortunately nothing yet. It's either raining or too windy to do anything. We have to wait for better conditions.
Have just installed the flywing H1 controller on a Align 450. Not having much success with set-up.
The H1 can be tricky, but there was no real demand to test this heli that way, so we skipped it. Once we can allocate some time to do a test of H1, we will. Until then, what was your problem?
@@rchelicopterhub I have not been ale to calibrate the compass. I know The H1 requires a specific BEC voltage so I will try a programmable BEC.
Hello would you have an idea on the goosky rs4. I hesitate between the two?
Well, we have no experience with the other one, so it would not be fair to speak against either one in favour of the other. Also we don't get any commission if you choose the M4. But they are on two different approaches. OMPHobby is delivering a good heli and you are free to choose your desired FBL and receiver. By my feeling RS4 is more around its own FBL unit. They have the same roots, but they are on different paths.
One thing is certain: The OMPHOBBY M4 is a great heli with an even greater manual. If you choose this, you won't regret it. However this does not mean, if you choose the RS4, you will, just we don't know how that will turn out for you, as we have no experience with that at all.
I bought one of these and am currently building it. This will be my first heli I've done completely on my own and The "radio setup " in my opinion is the hardest part so it remains to be seen if it's beginner friendly or not🤷
Yes, that can be challenging. Which system are you using? Was the maiden successful?
@@rchelicopterhub I am using the spectrum fc 6250 and I watched the Brian Phillips RC channel and did everything he did but mine did not turn out like his. The tail servo is not moving the way it should. I'm pretty sure it's something in the radio because I've tried other servos and they all do the same thing. First of all the cyclic servos are running on 333 MHz and the tail servo won't move on anything but 560 MHz and it auto moves to the left endpoint. If I move the stick to the right it will move but then will auto move back. I can't seem to find anyone who can help me with this. Nobody in my club can/ wants to help me figure it out so it's been sitting in my garage collecting dust. Very disheartening and frustrating. I think I may know someone who can help but the whole point was for me to finally do one myself without help. Very much sucks!!!!
@@rchelicopterhub I got the cyclic servos moving in the right direction but the tail servo is not.
@@rchelicopterhub also my radio is an Spectrum NX8
Is this a class 450 helicopter??
It is more in the 470 size by Align measuements. The TRex 470 is a 380 size model, like this one.
Nice to see a young lady interested in this more boy/men toys !
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Olá gosto do seus vídeos acho bem legal .
Os modelos também que vocês aprecentam também são ótimos.
Aqui no Brasil esse modelo são muito caros por causa de imposto e importação.
Mas mesmo assim não desistimos do Hobby.
Por esses motivos não temos muito acesso a modelos maiores por causa do preço.
Mas adoramos o Helimodelismo.
Sorry for replying in English, but my Portuguese is limited to couple of words :) Modelling is cheap nowhere. I can't tell you a single country where this would be considered cheap sadly. Bigger models cost as much as a second hand car - or more. But still we try to do our bests. And TBH this is the reason, why we can introduce a very limited number of new models. We are not financed by anyone, so we have to allocate the budget when we want to do something - from the family budget. But never give up!
compare this to the tb40!
Would be good, thanks for the suggestion. Although we try to avoid comparison videos, because this hobby is too small for controversial videos.
@rchelicopterhub nah its helpful for people who are looking for 380 size helis
Not knocking this thing but it looks like a slightly redesigned Oxy. I'll stick with Oxy, not a fan of the direct drive, too proprietary and don't really see any advantage. But that's just me, I'm sure they will sell lots of them.
Thank you for your feedback. I'm not sure what you mean with this redesign, because there are similarities to Oxy helis as well as others, because at the end of the day all helis share the same principals. But it is a genuine OMPHOBBY model. We highlighted that in the video, the DD can be some sort of risk, but so far so good. The benefit of DD is the simplicity.
No soldering is probably a HUGE win for first-timers that don't have raft of tools.
Soldering these thick wires properly is tricky even if you have the proper tools.
@@rchelicopterhub It is! I have really had to hold my finger back from pulling the trigger on an M4. Your great review has not made that any easier! Nice review.
@@earthb67 thank you for your feedback. But if you want to choose something in this class, this can be one for sure.
No mention of set up
This is a Combo Kit+VBar. Includes everything, this is why no setup mentioned.
This is not even close to being a beginner heli. Don't do it. Get a simulator and a blade nano (or similar) until you can comfortably do nose-in and figure 8s forward and backwards (upright and inverted). Then M2, then M4 etc etc. You will save youself a lot of $ and frustration by taking this advice.
it is one of the easiest heli to build
Agreed. It would be easier on a way, if it was factory pre-assembled. But where's the challenge and where is the modelling then? :)
@@rchelicopterhub well i prefer kits i have build a very old flybar heli and that was my first time building or even seeing a heli and top of that i have to program the thing to make it fly autonomously with a gps on it have to say it was pretty frustrating in the starting mostly cause i was unfamiliar with the heli stuff but in the end i got it to work pretty good I would say here is the video
ua-cam.com/video/SKakmo89xzI/v-deo.html
@@goobisoft4873 Very well done. Good progress. And yes I do prefer kits too.
If a beginner relies on a experience person for maiden flight, than it's not a beginner helicopter. She should have been flying something more towards beginners
Thanks, but let me disagree: ANY RC HELICOPTER maiden flight requires an experienced pilot. This is like you have a user friendly car, which is easy to drive, easy to park, easy to use. Does this mean your car does not need a car mechanics time to time?