Have you EVER seen this many Tube Screamers?? (And how different do they actually sound?)

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  • @Scottys_Life
    @Scottys_Life Рік тому +4

    Watched this video twice now.. 2nd time around with headphones, absolutely insane the difference it makes.. you CAN hear differences when they A/B the pedals, but probably not enough of a difference to pay 10x the amount sometimes 🤯

  • @SomeKindOfMadman
    @SomeKindOfMadman 2 роки тому +14

    Chris is a legend, love that chap! Thank you Capt Lee for having him on again. FYI; my favorite pedal was the “Tube Screamer.”
    ; )

  • @patrickcarroll1754
    @patrickcarroll1754 2 роки тому +7

    I've noticed Lee's constructive criticism has become more nuanced and I appreciate that. It's a skill to sum up your thoughts in an honest way, but still speak from a supportive place. He often hits the nail on the head for me.

    • @NintenDub
      @NintenDub 2 роки тому +1

      Lee's a businessman. He has to have that skill.but,.you can tell he's a quite honest man

    • @TheGhostGuitars
      @TheGhostGuitars 2 роки тому +1

      Even more so impressive is the ability to ad lib on the spot, it's quite obvious that Captain Lee and the others on Andertons TV doesn't use scripts, aside perhaps the most basic of outlines.
      "We'll talk about this and we'll TRY stay on the subject!" 😆😁👍

  • @terrybanks5063
    @terrybanks5063 2 роки тому +23

    nice to see that chris has settled in to being filmed while playing, can tell his nerves have calmed and his playing is so much better. well done lad. great player, keep it up!

  • @PedalPawn
    @PedalPawn 2 роки тому +14

    They all sound the same… BUT still buy them all 😝🟩 Incredible day as always guys woooo! 🎸

  • @GerryBlue
    @GerryBlue Рік тому +8

    Just as SRV is responsible for the "Heavier gauge of string is better" thing, he's also responsible for the love of the Tube Screamer, very nice collection

    • @8eight104
      @8eight104 Рік тому +2

      the problem is...not everyone is SRV. That man was a freak of nature. I prefer lighter gauge strings to help my tone ring out.

    • @UCS0608
      @UCS0608 8 місяців тому +1

      With all due respect for SRV, but I beg to differ when it comes to string gauges. I played with 10-52 for ages, but due to age and a little arthritis I switched to 10-46. And found out I like the sound better. And I know I'm not the only one. I think Rick Beato dit a clip about this.

    • @ryanlittleton5615
      @ryanlittleton5615 6 місяців тому

      @@UCS0608 Stevie toward the end of his career was using 10s himself. His signature set from GHS however is 11-58.

  • @KnapfordMaster98
    @KnapfordMaster98 2 роки тому +3

    Really refreshing to hear such a big collector of these things stress that they all sound the same.

  • @jrcp106
    @jrcp106 2 роки тому +2

    My great uncle used to engineer in Nashville back in the 80s and assures me that SRV actually used a modified Boss Metal Zone into a 30w Crate amp in the studio. Never used a Tubescreamer.

  • @TheGhostGuitars
    @TheGhostGuitars 2 роки тому +1

    I have the TS7, and about half of the 7-Series of Ibanez pedals. Love & use them!

  • @jessejorgensen3931
    @jessejorgensen3931 7 місяців тому +1

    What I've noticed from whatching these is that the person playing makes a lot of difference depending on what he's playing, where he's playing. It's going to sound different between going from the bass notes to double stops to triads. So switching between doesn't help unless you're staying in that spot. They have a particular sound, though. Like a warm blanket.

  • @HeikkiRHackman
    @HeikkiRHackman 2 роки тому +5

    I own a Bonsai and am happy with it. I find myself using 808 mode most. Need to do some more work on TS9 and 10. Thank you for the video. Good stuff as usually.

  • @alexanderroy5713
    @alexanderroy5713 2 роки тому +2

    Proud TS10 owner here! Great video y’all keep it up :)

  • @RobCarleton
    @RobCarleton 11 місяців тому +1

    The Maxon OD-9 is true bypass though so different from a stock TS9. Needs to be taken into account

    • @drippinglass
      @drippinglass 11 місяців тому +1

      I agree. I always wondered why the boutique guys would try to get the “Tube Screamer” sound… without the input/output buffers that were part of the audio path.

  • @robertlewis8024
    @robertlewis8024 2 роки тому +8

    Back in the day, we always said "a Tube Screamer's a Tube Screamer's a Tube Screamer", meaning they all sound "basically" the same. Most of the difference between models was in the tone circuit, and even that was minor. The TS9 was always the most popular with working players (until the vintage craze started), even though they had a reputation for a little more variation from pedal to pedal than the other models. This was in the U.S., by the way.

  • @michaelmiles6398
    @michaelmiles6398 2 роки тому +2

    I bought a TS 9 when they 1st came out and been using it off and on ever since. And it still works fine.

  • @td7426
    @td7426 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you so much for this Lee and Chris! Very informative. This also reminds me how much swing Stevie Ray had in his playing

  • @starshineraiser6729
    @starshineraiser6729 2 роки тому

    Nice to see someone that loves TS’s. It’s so hip to say “I don’t even like TS808’s”. My stock 2022 Ibanez TS808 and Maxon OD9 are magnificent. I had a TS10 and I did not care for it at all.

  • @jameslewis2635
    @jameslewis2635 2 роки тому +31

    I think that the sound between these pedals is so small that it comes into the range of the +/-10% varience that you get from components like resistors and potentiometers.

    • @RobertNolan
      @RobertNolan 2 роки тому +2

      I feel like that's definitely a major factor in anything built before the turn of the millennium. Even today, using through-hole methods, you will certainly get a tolerance shift. Adjusting necessarily gives you sonic matches.
      That said, it's remarkable how similar all of the TS pedals are in that regard. I bought a TS10 for around $300 and then built one with vero, the settings and tones were basically identical to the human ear.
      A circuit is a circuit. Cheers!

    • @eddiesigerexperience9803
      @eddiesigerexperience9803 Рік тому

      @@RobertNolan Do printed pcb boards have tolerances as well? Like a 1% tolerance difference between 20-30 components in two of the same pedal. Could that make an audible change in tone?

    • @RobertNolan
      @RobertNolan Рік тому +1

      @@eddiesigerexperience9803 I won't say it isn't possible, but it's likely that why capacitance issue are resolved with a proper input and output buffer.

    • @aintnofeeblebastard9359
      @aintnofeeblebastard9359 Рік тому +1

      @@eddiesigerexperience9803 i think you are confused about what tolerance is referring to. it's referring to the allowable amount of difference between a component's stated rating and its actual measurement. pcbs are just traces that connect the components together. i cant imagine that any slight variance in how well the traces on pcbs conduct from one to the other would contribute any quantifiable difference to a circuit overall. always willing to be proven incorrect though.

    • @eddiesigerexperience9803
      @eddiesigerexperience9803 Рік тому

      @@aintnofeeblebastard9359 Thank you for your response. That makes sense to me, I’m new to this haha

  • @guitareveryone
    @guitareveryone 2 роки тому +6

    Would have to see a Digitech Bad Monkey thrown into the mix. I think that pedal is great .

  • @benlogan430
    @benlogan430 2 роки тому

    TS7 for the win! It’s a screamer plus a separate overdrive pedal. And inexpensive to boot. Although they are not the most rugged construction.

  • @TylerTNT97
    @TylerTNT97 2 роки тому

    I’m a Happy TS7 owner. Sounds great. Strong construction, the switch feels the most like a Boss pedal. The “Hot” mode is a great high gain overdrive. Otherwise it’s a great screamer, probably the most innovative for Ibanez.

  • @Russell_Optics
    @Russell_Optics 2 роки тому +1

    My take away is the Bonsai did a great job emulating all of them. It had a bit more thickness through my speakers, but I believe that could be adjusted as well if you wanted. I use the ODR1 with a GE-7 EQ to tune it as my go-to, but they all sounded great. Excellent video.

    • @404err0r
      @404err0r 2 роки тому

      I was wondering if the difference might be input / output impedance. There was definitely a real tonal difference, but very little difference in the actual voicing of the overdrive.

  • @AverageArdvark
    @AverageArdvark 2 роки тому +3

    This was super fun having Chris here and hearing all the vintage stuff! Some nice and fresh video content!

  • @TechMetalRules
    @TechMetalRules Рік тому +1

    30:57 Either 808 or TS9 circuits do the modern metal (djent) "thing" well. The difference is subtle but they both do a good job of rolling off the low end while bumping the low-mids and adding a bit of push to the front end of the amp. Some of the more modern "modded" variations don't work as well for this because they kinda take away what a Tube Screamer does by giving low-end back and smoothing out the mid-hump. Run the gain low, level high, and tone to taste.

  • @deadboz6007
    @deadboz6007 2 роки тому

    Really awesome! I have a TS-808HW at home a friend give to me. And i never tried a TS before. But the HW seems the best one i've read so often. And now in this video ... all sounds the same 👍

  • @joybuzzer
    @joybuzzer 2 роки тому +1

    This was a great segment. Please deliver more content with @pedalpawn.

  • @Snibborwocky
    @Snibborwocky 2 роки тому

    "it's not easy being green..." Thank you, I'll be here all week.

  • @strangequark420
    @strangequark420 2 роки тому

    That was awesome. Makes me glad I bought just a regular old TS9 new. *I* got the mojo.

  • @lucasgonzalezdealedo8556
    @lucasgonzalezdealedo8556 2 роки тому

    Loved the video. Very needed some content like this one! i really had a good time watching it

  • @D1570R73D
    @D1570R73D 2 роки тому

    The real winner here is the Bonsai, great pedal Josh!

  • @groopuskul
    @groopuskul 2 роки тому +1

    That intro was killer

  • @fraenkiboii
    @fraenkiboii 2 роки тому +2

    Statistically, one of these was played by SRV. :D

  • @shellbournian
    @shellbournian 2 роки тому

    the Stevie strat sounds INCREDIBLE

  • @melexdy
    @melexdy 2 роки тому +2

    Got the cheaper ts7 and I can assure you: it sounds like a tube screamer!
    The hot switch is a mid boost with more bottom end.
    Crank it and it's still a round overdrive with mid gain

    • @paulgibbs6831
      @paulgibbs6831 2 роки тому +2

      I drunkenly bought one of these for £20 on ebay. Finally tried it out about a year later and it's not moved off my board since, Great pedal for little money.

    • @melexdy
      @melexdy 2 роки тому

      @@paulgibbs6831 Yeap and its not even noisy or anything!

  • @thatguitarbloke3214
    @thatguitarbloke3214 2 роки тому

    They don't have the second hand ts7 coz I bought it and it is awesome. It's a ts9 in an ugly suit and it's so much easier to use as a lead boost because of the big foot switch. Thanks Andertons!

  • @tacratt6091
    @tacratt6091 2 роки тому +3

    The magic in Stevie’s tube screamer, guitars and amps was Stevie! The music poured from him like sweat. He was a special talent!

  • @lance134679
    @lance134679 2 роки тому +1

    Great tones even before you wrecked it with a tube screamer (kidding)! To me, it shows how great Josh's Bonsai pedal is, because it gets so close to the each type of tube screamer.

  • @ZachComa
    @ZachComa 2 роки тому

    Bonsai owner, TS10 most of the time, works great for higher gain djenty things. Gotta say though, the best actual Tube Screamer variant IMO is the Maxon STS9 Pro+ (it's the 4 knob one).

  • @daveshack298
    @daveshack298 2 роки тому

    My first Tube Screamer (I still have it) was aTS5. My second 'Tube Screamer' was a PUE5 Tube FX 'board' - I like my Ibanez guitars and when this board showed up on Facebook Marketplace, I just had to have it. Most recently, after you had Josh (JHS Pedals) on, I just had to have a Bonsai. Guess you can never have enought! :D

  • @Suffocation03
    @Suffocation03 2 роки тому

    Are used to play guitar and tour with Suffocation and I always used the Maxon 808 and my other guitar player always used the maxon 909

  • @williamtell1477
    @williamtell1477 2 роки тому +1

    Im not that surprised if you cant hear the differences in the room with amps and such, but you can really hear differences here in my studio when he plays consistently into them as in 32:20. Far right pedal seems a little scooped, left one similar but not scooped, middle one has less crunch. All these could be just minor tolerances in the components or settings of the knobs though.

  • @rottingemptiness
    @rottingemptiness 2 роки тому

    Challenge: All tube scream pedals in a row and all in action at the same time , and .... let's rock 'n' roll !!!!
    Go with the flow , distortion level 13 !!!! 😃

  • @TheToneGeek
    @TheToneGeek 2 роки тому +4

    He doesn't have the Tone Geek Valve Screamer VS10 up there 😭 🔥🔥😎

  • @nataliebeach6148
    @nataliebeach6148 2 роки тому +2

    I love my TS-7.

  • @jeffmazzei8520
    @jeffmazzei8520 2 роки тому

    Everyone makes a Tubescreamer better than Ibanez !! The Nobles ODR and Wampler Belle are excellent ! In Nashville everyone uses the Nobles !

  • @larsfocken3456
    @larsfocken3456 2 роки тому

    Personally I prefer the TS9 over the TS808. However I recommend the Maxon OD-9. I have a vintage Ibanez TS9 from 1983 and the Maxon sounds exactly the same!

  • @mbontekoe3358
    @mbontekoe3358 2 роки тому

    There is also an even rarer Maxon own brand TS 808 - Maxon did all the electronics for Ibanez for years and also made the pick-ups for them.

  • @boseefusmacmurphy1156
    @boseefusmacmurphy1156 2 роки тому

    The tone lok literally locks in the tone so its gotta be the best.

  • @webby7580
    @webby7580 2 роки тому

    Love this retro stuff....thankyou!

  • @limpindug
    @limpindug 2 роки тому +1

    Now there is a rabbit hole all to itself. I can't believe people at a gig could tell or care which one is on the board. 😂😂. 👍🥃Respect to you fellas

  • @vkelly1975
    @vkelly1975 2 роки тому

    I have 81 Analogman TS9 808 Mod and I picked up a made in Japan TS10 but they are magic 🔮😂🪄🎸‼️

  • @mikes062
    @mikes062 2 роки тому +1

    I got my ts10 almost 20 years ago for less than $60, I just wanted a tube screamer and could afford that one, no one wanted them then…I’ve still got it and I think it’s hilarious how much people are paying for them now

  • @brymills
    @brymills 2 роки тому +1

    The Bonsai video with Chappers is still one of my fave Anderton’s videos ever.

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      @cuppyco8371 2 роки тому

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  • @DrKevGuitar
    @DrKevGuitar 2 роки тому +3

    Of course, as BOTH Josh Scott AND Brian Wampler have said very clearly many times now, they all sound the same (in that any circuit differences between 808, TS9, TS10, handwired, etc. are too small to hear and everything else is MYTH). BUT because there is a tolerance range for resistor, capacitor, and potenetiometer, you can find two of the same pedal that sound just a little different. JHS's Bonsai reproduces Josh's favorite specific pedals of each line, not because the circuit versions sound different but because he reproduced EXACTLY those particular pedals he liked best of each version.

  • @shaunkellison1761
    @shaunkellison1761 2 роки тому +2

    Best one I have ever heard is the Ibanez that has the emulator for all of those classic tube screamer’s in it. There is a + mode that is classic rock guitar tone perfection!
    And that concludes my algorithm boost contribution. Cheers from America!

  • @MartyV666
    @MartyV666 2 роки тому

    Everyone always forgets about the Ibanez/Maxon POD1 which has the TS chip in it.

  • @TomCourtneyMusic
    @TomCourtneyMusic Рік тому

    Thanks Chris, personally I feel they are all great. I'd have been happy to have any of them as a kid. I think to be honest you can make any of these pedals sound great. The TS 808 is great but a little thinner than the TS 9 but one can probably fix this with EQ easily. The maximun blew me away. I think there's no difference between the TS 9 and OD 9. Sound identical. The TS 10 I didn't care for I found it muddy to be honest and more modern sounding. The Bonzi is killer and with a little low end rolled off I think you get them all in one box. Overerall I like the TS 9. I think from high's to low it's the best balanced of the all.

  • @glenproctor1999
    @glenproctor1999 2 роки тому +3

    Awesome video! Josh owes you a few drinks for proving the Bonsai does an amazing job!

  • @marcospintor1333
    @marcospintor1333 5 місяців тому

    They all sound almost the same. I have the ts-808 because i like the way it looks 🤣

  • @caseylm100
    @caseylm100 10 місяців тому

    Give some love to the ts7. Sounds great and has an actual high gain mode, not the cheesy one the DX has

  • @zachsmith3376
    @zachsmith3376 2 роки тому

    "Hold my beer" sounds funny with a British accent.

  • @bassyey
    @bassyey 2 роки тому +3

    Missing the one with dual footswitch.

  • @ArvidNielsen
    @ArvidNielsen 2 роки тому

    Got the Behringer after Josh’s video presenting that line.
    Wanna get the JHS Bonsai, simply, for the variations.

  • @davedavem
    @davedavem 2 роки тому +1

    The green one sounded the best, but I'd rather have a red one.

  • @baldyhead
    @baldyhead 2 роки тому +1

    The Tone Lok pedals are actually a really good range. I have several and they sound and work great. I was hoping you'd a/b it and the Soundtank with the others to see if they differed much, considering their "cheap" status. I have a feeling they too sound all but identical.

    • @marksvideochannel3592
      @marksvideochannel3592 2 роки тому +1

      Me too, I have a TS7 and compared to other TS pedals with no difference in tone I could hear.

  • @Umuliuz
    @Umuliuz Місяць тому

    Great video. I’ll get whatever and be happy.

  • @MaTTheWish
    @MaTTheWish 2 роки тому

    The captain is king!

  • @duncansbuddy
    @duncansbuddy 2 роки тому

    The one that cost less to purchase WINS.!

  • @divebomb99
    @divebomb99 Рік тому +1

    Uh oh! Don't see a TS9 30th in the mix! ha.

  • @WillyFranklinOnBass
    @WillyFranklinOnBass 2 роки тому

    ...and I thought I was bad for having two CE-2's.... WOW!

  • @Ameen2310
    @Ameen2310 Рік тому

    The OG 808 is ever so slightly rounder sounding, which I do prefer. Definitely not so much that I'd pay a fortune for it. My TS Mini is doing me great, and it anyway matters less when the amp is more cranked.

  • @twoguncorcoran4733
    @twoguncorcoran4733 2 роки тому

    The best one to my ear is a Keeley red dirt overdrive.

  • @CapstoneTider
    @CapstoneTider 2 роки тому

    Great video and was the perfect timing for me after exploring purchasing and noticing some going for $1,000, and all the mods and Mystique. The Bown Sound esque. Definitely going to get a less expensive reissue vs chasing magic tone ✨️.

  • @blobikon7164
    @blobikon7164 2 роки тому

    I love the "weird new tube" about nuvistor which premiered in 1959 :)

  • @paulhudson2293
    @paulhudson2293 2 роки тому

    Misha Mansoor uses a Maxon OD-808 apparently. These pedals all seem to sound the same. Makes that Bonsai seem like a great piece of kit and a bargain.

  • @michaelgallegos8811
    @michaelgallegos8811 2 роки тому

    OMG thats a whole lot of those screamers mate lol😂😂

  • @anthonyclarke2076
    @anthonyclarke2076 2 роки тому

    Save a few for the rest of us Chris 😂

  • @gregmize01
    @gregmize01 2 роки тому

    Chris is just great!🎸🎸🎸🎸

  • @quiquepriore
    @quiquepriore 2 роки тому

    And now everybody wants a micro ts 9 in his key ring

  • @travislewis1486
    @travislewis1486 Рік тому

    So many Screamers...
    I've got the TS9DX and TS9 40TH Anniversary Edition.

  • @stanislavmigra
    @stanislavmigra 2 роки тому

    I dont even like Tubescreamers, nor own any at the moment. But enjoyed this whole video.

  • @Pedal_Gong_Show
    @Pedal_Gong_Show 2 роки тому

    ⭐️CATCH THEM ALL⭐️
    🤜🖤🤛

  • @josecubanosantiago4724
    @josecubanosantiago4724 2 роки тому +1

    Fave tube screamer is the blues driver

  • @triledink
    @triledink 2 роки тому

    missed opportunity to have em all on at the same time.

  • @sky-hakala
    @sky-hakala 2 роки тому

    I liked this chris dude!

  • @DavidMorales008
    @DavidMorales008 2 роки тому

    Awesome amazing just missing my tube screamer it never gets any love it’s a double pedal with a boost 808DX you can choose boost pre or post TS choose 9 or 18v , I never see it in a TS video

  • @nizodizo9549
    @nizodizo9549 2 роки тому

    I have a DS-1 from twenty years ago and one form 2022. They sound the same.
    The same thing I would imagine goes for Tube Screamers.

    • @noname-ng6sj
      @noname-ng6sj 2 роки тому

      They sound the same to you because you can't tell the difference. I have one from 1989, one from 2002 and one from 2019. They all sound different because I can hear the difference.

  • @chriseinziger
    @chriseinziger 2 роки тому

    Even if there is a Tubesreamer on that table that Josh doesn't have - He's probably got the orginal box for all the others ^^

  • @crazkurtz
    @crazkurtz 2 роки тому

    You can keep them!

  • @AshShearer
    @AshShearer 2 роки тому +1

    After going through a few myself, I ended up settling on the NuTube Screamer but mainly use a Precision Drive 😁
    Honourable mention to the TS Mini. For the money, you can't go past it.

  • @JWhitneyInc
    @JWhitneyInc 2 роки тому

    I recently paid a premium for a TS10 because one happened to pop up at my local GC. During my 3 day return period I A/B'd it against my TS9 and watched every random YT video I could basically trying to find a reason to return the stupid expensive pedal. In the end, I found that for me it does this very warm compressed thing on bends that I couldn't replicate on the TS9 and I could hear it on other YT videos, so it's on my board for the forseeable future.

  • @namnefternamn5463
    @namnefternamn5463 5 місяців тому

    So I bought my TS10 years ago when you could pick them up for next to nothing. I use it in front of an allready driven Marshall JMP to get 80s thrash metal tones. Recently I picked up the Bonsai to not have to drag what has become a very rare and valuble pedal to gigs. And I´m sorry to say I´m gonna get rid of it because it doesn´t do the TS10 justice at all. Not the one I own anyway.

  • @rachelandryan
    @rachelandryan 2 роки тому

    Devin Townsend uses a Maxon OD808 with his Mesa Boogie Rectifiers to tighten up his distorted rhythm tone.

  • @jkf9167
    @jkf9167 2 роки тому +1

    I've played a lot of Tube Screamers. Every once in a while you find a bad one that's all compressed and thin sounding, but 99% of them sound pretty much the same, including clones.

  • @joshuafreedman7703
    @joshuafreedman7703 2 роки тому

    Serious danger of suffering burnout; I guess I don't possess a refined enough ear to discern a whale of a lot of difference -- there *was* some, but I couldn't possibly tell you which pedal was doing what!

  • @CL_Audio_Tuning
    @CL_Audio_Tuning 2 роки тому

    Where is Josh Scott at?! Calling JHS!! You've been called out!! 🤣

  • @jmcsquared18
    @jmcsquared18 2 роки тому +4

    Funnily enough, my favorite isn't even the Ibanez. It's the Maxon, but the TOD9 with a real tube gain stage in it. Which I appropriately learned about from Lee himself when he did a shootout with Rob's screamer clones.

    • @evanmaunders5688
      @evanmaunders5688 2 роки тому +1

      The tube in the TOD9 is basically just a clean boost. The gain comes from the od circuit, which is basically a typical maxon ts circuit. Great pedal though

  • @NoelHaven
    @NoelHaven 2 роки тому +2

    “One continuous chunk” was my nickname in high school 😏👌🏻

  • @bobsanders8030
    @bobsanders8030 8 місяців тому

    Wouldn't hurt to have a Metal Screamer. Only made for a year or so.

  • @VictorEMusique
    @VictorEMusique 2 роки тому +1

    of all the Tube Screamer videos you've done, why have you never featured the Tube Screamer Amplifier?