Porsche 911 GTS | Damage by Dealer Service, Wheels, Tires and More

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  • @superameric8
    @superameric8 6 років тому +8

    Porsche dealers should be able to install tires/ wheels and NOT scratch them. I mean they do this everyday! Beautiful car.

    • @bobbyelon3005
      @bobbyelon3005 3 роки тому

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    • @superameric8
      @superameric8 3 роки тому

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    • @carternikolas2438
      @carternikolas2438 3 роки тому

      @Bobby Elon instablaster :)

    • @bobbyelon3005
      @bobbyelon3005 3 роки тому

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    • @superameric8
      @superameric8 3 роки тому

      @@bobbyelon3005 surprising considering how stupid you sound. Good luck bot!

  • @mvernez
    @mvernez 6 років тому +5

    Hi Joe, I would try to obtain a brand new wheel not a reparation. It's not ok as it is. Porsche should give a 100% satisfaction to the customer. If they refuse, write to Porsche America and tell them this and about your youtube channel.

  • @louiewilliams5438
    @louiewilliams5438 6 років тому +2

    If they still don't offer black rims you can get the silver set and have them professionally powder coated for around $200 at most powder coaters. Don't let them charge you more just because they are Porsche wheels, the process is the same.

  • @thhall459
    @thhall459 6 років тому +13

    That wheel is not just scratched. The center of the wheel where the scratch is located is bent outwards about 1 to 2mm. That wheel was subjected to incredibly rough handling. It may be cracked. Sorry to spoil your day.

    • @spalkin
      @spalkin 6 років тому +2

      Bingo. That part needs to be replaced, not refinished...

    • @paully1227
      @paully1227 6 років тому

      Yup the edge is bent out , but this guy is a clown the way he talks he couldn’t race in anything like a auto cross or even down street, let alone in a competitive track

    • @thekretch
      @thekretch 6 років тому +4

      Wow Paul Kelley. So you are a better driver. Please show us your great driving skills in your Porsche. I don't think so. Your just a jealous idiot who has nothing better to do and no doubt can't even afford a used Lada.

  • @DoctaM3
    @DoctaM3 6 років тому

    I tested the Michelin PS4S with Michelin on several driving conditions when they were first introduced. You can't goo wrong with them. The Cup2 as def too aggressive if you are driving the car everyday. Awesome videos for sure.

    • @Joe_Hutchinson
      @Joe_Hutchinson  6 років тому

      Thanks for the feedback! (By the way, I love your videos and I am a subscriber)

  • @cmarnold78
    @cmarnold78 6 років тому

    Love hearing your enthusiasm for the GTS! The N/A is going to be a keeper and a classic!

  • @mugenmark
    @mugenmark 6 років тому +2

    All I got from this is that Porsche dealership scratched up your old wheels so you took your car to them with centre locks that are hard to remove and they trashed them as well. You need to find another dealership. Also as others have said, the alloy looks buckled now nr the centre lock so would def insist on a new wheel.

  • @artagain8977
    @artagain8977 6 років тому

    If you do decide to go back to separate summer/winter rims you could go with a smaller rim to give you a higher sidewall tire. My GTI has 18" summer tires but my winter wheels are 17" with a larger tire.

    • @Joe_Hutchinson
      @Joe_Hutchinson  6 років тому

      Excellent point. I would have to research to find out if a reduced size is available with centerlocks.

  • @blackflagpirate3444
    @blackflagpirate3444 6 років тому

    Super car my friend,had the same problem with my Audi TTs.Went in to the dealership and came out with damaged paintwork on the rims.

    • @gedam131
      @gedam131 6 років тому

      had the same with my Mini JCW rims, they dont care.

  • @aaaaachew
    @aaaaachew 6 років тому

    I would highly recommend Speed Sport Tuning if you’re looking for an independent shop to service the car.

  • @nickjones8867
    @nickjones8867 6 років тому +4

    Man i feel for you,pride and joy car. taking on cowboy dealers good luck dude.

  • @edwardhohl2772
    @edwardhohl2772 6 років тому

    Love the car Joe! I personally have a set of Pilot Sport PS2 N3 (or N4 I believe) which are Porsche OEM tires as well as the Pirelli tires. My wheel and tire insurance replaces whatever is on the car, nice since I just replaced two Winter tires, or similar. Meaning if you want the Michelin tires I bet you could replace your tires with the Michelins under warranty and replace the remaining tires out of pocket.

  • @sinoperture
    @sinoperture 6 років тому

    I don't think the tyre and rim insurance covers cosmetic issue like kerbing. On my PDS for that package from Porsche Australia it is only for structural failure that causes the wheel to be unable to hold air or hold the tyre. Usually done from a massive pot hole or something else that would crack or bend the wheel. It you scratch it up no go...... that is your normal cosmetic repair for you.

  • @johnchen3
    @johnchen3 6 років тому +14

    It’s because the techs working behind the scenes just don’t care, they never even see you. They are paid by how much time it should take to finish the job. They if take too long, they don’t get paid for those hours so they finish it ASAP and move on to the next job.

    • @MagicAyrtonforever
      @MagicAyrtonforever 6 років тому +2

      John Chen I agree, I worked for a dealership for 2 months, they even rip off their own staff. Fuck them.

    • @matt_b...
      @matt_b... 6 років тому

      That's a pretty bold blanket statement, John. "techs working behind the scenes just don’t care"

    • @johnchen3
      @johnchen3 6 років тому

      matt b it’s the internet, people make bold statements, don’t get hurt.

  • @rolonow12
    @rolonow12 6 років тому

    Two sets of wheel & tyres every time. Easy DIY to change twice a year for a young fit guy, no cost and no risk.

  • @18echosf
    @18echosf 6 років тому

    I absolutely love your house! I’m from South Jersey and have lived in CA for the past 34 years. I’ve missed living back east the entire time! Oh Yeah........I’ve been driving Porsches for 40 years. Keep up the great videos........much enjoyed.

  • @JacK-yr8ri
    @JacK-yr8ri 6 років тому

    love this car, perfect colour and the naturally aspirated engine makes it a keeper. Dont upgrade it unless its to something particularly special.

    • @Joe_Hutchinson
      @Joe_Hutchinson  6 років тому

      Thanks so much. I love it. I agree, it's a keeper.

  • @jimsego172
    @jimsego172 6 років тому

    Beautiful house and car, congrats. I would be a bit more annoyed with the damage. It shows a basic lack of quality control and disrespect for your property. That is damage you can see, I would be wondering about other issues that they wouldn't expect one to see. Anyway that car is amazing. I got to drive one on a small section of Summit Point last fall and by far of the other
    7 Porsches I drove that day the 911 GTS was the best.

  • @trdartz
    @trdartz 6 років тому +1

    Conclusion take off and put on your own wheels and don't get center locks =)

  • @nextfitness22
    @nextfitness22 5 років тому

    this is actually great info!

  • @dhgoodall1
    @dhgoodall1 6 років тому

    Really like your videos. Can’t wait to see you autocross.

  • @artagain8977
    @artagain8977 6 років тому

    Went skiing up in the Adirondacks this past weekend. Should have looked for the GTS ;-)

  • @mattf3348
    @mattf3348 6 років тому

    I love the color combination! Very nice car.

  • @aalmuhairi
    @aalmuhairi 6 років тому

    as we speak. I got the same issue with my dealer when they replaced back tires of my GT3RS 2016 model and tech used a screwdriver to remove wight balance plats which lead to heavy scratches on both rims. I fought back for wheel replacement after they hide in telling me. so we agreed on they will paint it and if it didnt look fine for me they will order wheells for me. so ofc wont go back to same dealer again. waiting wrok to be done .

    • @Joe_Hutchinson
      @Joe_Hutchinson  6 років тому

      Wow, sorry to hear about that. What was the guy thinking? I think I need to move on to a different service center too.

  • @tpm1717
    @tpm1717 6 років тому +1

    Roads look familiar. Westchester County guy? Thought I recognized either the Tarrytown Reservoir or the road that cuts through the Rockefeller Park Preserve.

  • @bengthedlund3382
    @bengthedlund3382 6 років тому

    The Michelin pilot sport 4s is maybe the best tyre. But they are not N-marked by Porsche. Therefore it is better to by the new Pirelli p zero N1.

  • @selwynlawrence2742
    @selwynlawrence2742 6 років тому +1

    Would it not be easier, To have all weather tyres fitted in the first place by Porsche? However, if someone chooses to have optional wheels fitted after buying the car, then it would be up to the individuals themselves, as to what tyres as well as wheels they have fitted, I have never heard of wheels and tyres protection plan in the UK at any rate, that's a first. However, in the UK, Every brand new motor vehicle purchased, are fitted with run flat tyres as standard.

    • @Matchlessdc30
      @Matchlessdc30 6 років тому

      This is not true. Not all uk cars are fitted with run flat tyres from new. Also all dealerships offer wheel damage insurance.

  • @richdrives
    @richdrives 6 років тому

    Great videos Joe!
    Too bad about the scratches but great that the dealership will refinish.
    Was thinking though...that $2100 wheel/tire warranty you paid for...Could the dealership be using the warranty to fix your wheels at no cost? It just occured to me that the wheel/tire warranty protects you as well the dealership from messing up :)

    • @Joe_Hutchinson
      @Joe_Hutchinson  6 років тому

      Excellent point! I bet they will. I talked to management and wanted it on record that this repair is due to their error. I just want them to be careful, that is all. But in the end, I bet you are right, the dealer will probably log this under my existing repair warranty.

  • @Cj_S2k
    @Cj_S2k 6 років тому

    Love your videos. I will either be getting a gt3 or a gts next year, I currently have a supercharged s2000. I really want the gt3 but it's hard to get them to build one for you because of the limited production and I want a stick car. So most likely I'll get a gts

  • @trdadam2325
    @trdadam2325 6 років тому

    Never seen anyone drive there 911 in the winter ever, only during perfect weather if possible.

    • @Joe_Hutchinson
      @Joe_Hutchinson  6 років тому

      It's meant to be driven. That's how I see it anyway.

  • @johnchen3
    @johnchen3 6 років тому

    Btw got the PSS for my 981, much better than the PZero.

  • @chrisbaskett808
    @chrisbaskett808 6 років тому

    Good video Joe. I like that phone holder you have, do you have a link to buy it or what kind it is?

    • @Joe_Hutchinson
      @Joe_Hutchinson  6 років тому

      Hi Chris, The phone holder is called the iOttie Easy One Touch 2 car mount. Fits iPhone X, 8 plus, Samsung Galaxy 8, etc. Here is a link to it in Amazon: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JRGOKQ8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
      Thanks for watching!!!!

    • @chrisbaskett808
      @chrisbaskett808 6 років тому

      Joe Hutchinson thanks

  • @camiel221
    @camiel221 6 років тому +2

    Cant you do a wheel swap yourself? So having 2 set of tyres just like on your previous 911. It aint really science unless i am missing something which makes it really difficult on a porsche

    • @joejohnp
      @joejohnp 6 років тому

      Cars bikes and chill the centerlock wheels require a special torque wrench since they need to go down to 500 lb ft or so. It also is very difficult to break the centerlocks free and to retorque them.

    • @mikec1096
      @mikec1096 6 років тому

      center locks are more difficult b/c they require high torque with a non standard wrench as joejohnp stated. it's possible to get the wrench (expensive ~$1000) and do it yourself but again you need a load of leverage and decent amount of strength. look for a video how to on youtube. even when this guy had standard 5 lug nut wheels he took his car to the dealer to change them and since center locks are on another level , i totally doubt he'd want to try that.

  • @gautierdesruelle2192
    @gautierdesruelle2192 2 роки тому

    Great videos

  • @meridian7143
    @meridian7143 6 років тому

    Good on you for driving in the wet!

  • @NevadaRocks75
    @NevadaRocks75 6 років тому

    That sucks...good luck for the future👍
    P.s. are you Jay-Z's twin brother?

  • @rudolphbazil9535
    @rudolphbazil9535 6 років тому

    Really enjoy your videos...

  • @Richuals
    @Richuals 6 років тому

    Great content 👍🏾

  • @maestroadam
    @maestroadam 6 років тому

    Mmm that 997.2 of yours was a beauty.

    • @Joe_Hutchinson
      @Joe_Hutchinson  6 років тому

      It's a great car. I was real happy with it.

  • @gtb5
    @gtb5 6 років тому

    Your videos are great.

  • @artagain8977
    @artagain8977 6 років тому

    Still looks brand new Joe!

  • @InitialD604
    @InitialD604 6 років тому

    ......you had two sets of wheels and you needed a dealer to change them?....that thing not come with a jack?

    • @Joe_Hutchinson
      @Joe_Hutchinson  6 років тому

      No, only one set of wheels, two sets of tires.

  • @sinoperture
    @sinoperture 6 років тому

    4:38 what is that strange bump just sitting there out of nowhere on the rear of your car near the window? Kinda ruins the lines and flow... :-(

  • @roberth3566
    @roberth3566 6 років тому +1

    Im not angry Mrstarfighter56 66 I run a porsche repair shop here in Los angeles and all high line customers always have something to complain about! BTW I have seven 7 Porsches how many do you have? no need to brag

    • @sammatchett6014
      @sammatchett6014 6 років тому

      Robert H you have had seven Porsche’s? Or do you have seven Porsche’s right now?

  • @ralphm6234
    @ralphm6234 5 років тому

    Has anyone ever told you that you and JayZ look alike? O fcourse, you are the educated version. No pun intended.

    • @Joe_Hutchinson
      @Joe_Hutchinson  5 років тому

      Ha ha, yes, I have heard that. Thank you.

    • @ralphm6234
      @ralphm6234 5 років тому

      @@Joe_Hutchinson BTW: I'm shopping around for a GTS just like yours. Really like your car specs. Any chance you are thinking of selling it? Maybe buying a newer one?

    • @Joe_Hutchinson
      @Joe_Hutchinson  5 років тому

      Ralph M thanks for asking but I plan to keep it for a while.

    • @ralphm6234
      @ralphm6234 5 років тому

      Thanks Joe. Last question; should I purchase a preowned GTS like yours, or a new 991.2 GTS or wait for the new 992 GTS? Hard to make a sound decision.

    • @Joe_Hutchinson
      @Joe_Hutchinson  5 років тому +1

      @@ralphm6234 Ooo, that's a big question. In my mind, there are a lot of factors to consider. All choices will give you a great car. You can't lose with either scenario. A preowned GTS like mine will save you money vs a new car. The car has already depreciated some so you get the thrill of a GTS for less. The N/A engine is so sweet and a joy. A new 991.2 GTS has more performance over the 991.1. More horsepower and a LOT more torque. So the speed is greater and the engine is more flexible. Plus a rear wheel steering option I believe. If you order a 991.2 GTS, you can spec it the way you want it. Last scenario: Wait for the new 992 GTS? Not sure when that will come out so that depends on how patient you are. I believe that will be even more superior than the 991.2 version. Here is an idea: Get the preowned 991.1 GTS and save and then when the 992 GTS comes out, test drive that one to see if you like it. If so, then go for that one. Just one idea. It's all up to you. No wrong answer. What do you think?

  • @joekkl
    @joekkl 6 років тому

    If you don't mind me asking, how much your house cost? It looks very nice.

    • @blueberrycobbler
      @blueberrycobbler 6 років тому +1

      masayako you must be young. Asking questions like that is considered rude. Have some respect and class.

  • @mareksumguy1887
    @mareksumguy1887 6 років тому

    Unacceptable!. Take it back and demand they reimburse you. This is a Porsche we are talking about. They get paid enough to do the job PROPERLY!

  • @throughmyeyes9940
    @throughmyeyes9940 6 років тому

    should have REPLACED the wheel with a brand new one, not repair, they love customers like you

  • @mariodesmo
    @mariodesmo 6 років тому

    Many dealership service shops are just a shop ore focused on their financial targets(profits). I'll bet the dealer assigned taking the wheels off to a junior tech with near zero experience, their cheapest option. After all, how hard can it be to take a wheel off! (sarcasm intended) With the repeated damage on your two cars now, doing the job right is not this dealer's focus.

  • @nickeckemoff7631
    @nickeckemoff7631 6 років тому

    Wheel protection plan is (like extended warranty) wasted money. Don’t try to justify it.
    I’m dumbfounded. Dealer scratched your wheel on an older car and you come back for seconds with a new car, resulting in more damage. Get a clue...like the saying goes “insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result.”

    • @Joe_Hutchinson
      @Joe_Hutchinson  6 років тому

      Yep, that’s on me for going back. No question.

  • @spacittipugglepupspacitti3672
    @spacittipugglepupspacitti3672 6 років тому

    Nice.

  • @Baerchenization
    @Baerchenization 6 років тому

    That is why you never let the dealer swap your wheels, and especially not store them for you at a hefty price... this is the most common anecdote: the tyre guy doesn't really give a fuck about his shit job, slams them on a pile and you get them back scratched up and then have to prove the fault didn't exist previously...
    the guys in the Porsche forums recommend this centre lock wrench, which costs like a 1/3 of Porsche's own wrench:
    www.unbeatablesale.com/doba10732.html?CPA&content=3750028
    I also don't trust lazy ass mechanics with the proper torque setting anyway with their crazy air tools which can stretch your bolts without you ever knowing.
    Then you get yourself a tyre tree for 30 bucks from Amazon or Ebay and stack them up in your garage. Greatest benefit is that you don't need to book a service appointment for changing tyres, but can change them any day like 1-2-3 depending on how the weather swings; also, if you have a flat or damaged tyre, you don't need a 300 bucks Porsche tow, you can fit a tyre from your spare set and have the other one fixed without being a day or two without car etc... having the dealer do your tyre swaps is a really bad idea if you have enough space for storage, as you do... I have mine stacked in the back of the garden on a tyre tree under a waterproof cover.
    You already recover the cost after 1-2 seasons and are so much better off...

  • @mr.eurocarturboit2251
    @mr.eurocarturboit2251 6 років тому

    Buy a jack and stands and do it your self.

  • @truthrevealed9293
    @truthrevealed9293 6 років тому

    Look like Jay Z...Lol wonderful personality.

  • @pharoahamunra
    @pharoahamunra 6 років тому

    cool car no doubt.

  • @marshallweaver6899
    @marshallweaver6899 6 років тому +1

    Are you kidding, winter tires on a 911? My 356C NEVER saw snow or any shit weather. Just buy a minivan.

  • @tribe_called_oh
    @tribe_called_oh 6 років тому

    What's up Joe... you've been quiet lately. I hope all is well. Check your FB msgs... I sent you something regarding this upcoming season that may interest you. TTYS, -E

    • @Joe_Hutchinson
      @Joe_Hutchinson  6 років тому

      Hi there! Thanks for checking in. All is well. Just working hard. For about 4-5 weeks, I worked every single day, including weekends on a project at the office. Hopefully I life will get back to normal now. Some balance. I will check what you have sent to my FB messages! Thanks!

  • @jameswilkinson150
    @jameswilkinson150 6 років тому

    Disappointment, I’d go N U T S! Come on, tell us, which dealership?

  • @vincentparascandolo3697
    @vincentparascandolo3697 6 років тому

    TIRE RACK

  • @dj-ye3hp
    @dj-ye3hp 6 років тому

    please stop at stop signs

    • @Joe_Hutchinson
      @Joe_Hutchinson  6 років тому

      I stopped. In editing I cut out the pause.

  • @jhvghjgjkhlihli
    @jhvghjgjkhlihli 6 років тому

    go to stealership, get stole on, plain and simple

  • @1walterhenrique
    @1walterhenrique 6 років тому

    Do you have a clear bra on this car. What are your thoughts about clear films

    • @Joe_Hutchinson
      @Joe_Hutchinson  6 років тому

      Yes, I have XPel clear film on the hood, front bumper/air dam, side mirrors, front fenders, around the door edges, behind around the rear wheels. I think protecting a car like this with clear film is essential. Before this car I had a black Boxster S that was unprotected and the front end had many chips and marks. The clear film does work to prevent this from happening. If your budget can afford it, I would recommend protecting the whole car.

    • @1walterhenrique
      @1walterhenrique 6 років тому

      Joe Hutchinson Thanks for the info. Have a 991.2 targa 4 on order. Same colour scheme as yours. Struggling with the cost/value of covering the car with a clear bra similar to what you did.

    • @Joe_Hutchinson
      @Joe_Hutchinson  6 років тому

      So far, the partial amount that I have covered is working very well. Those are the areas that are most prone to chips. So you don't have to cover the whole car.

    • @Joe_Hutchinson
      @Joe_Hutchinson  6 років тому

      One more follow up. What is showing the most wear from road and highway debris is the front windshield. Since I do a lot of highway miles, I can see little marks here and there on the windshield. No big cracks or chips though. Just little marks.

    • @1walterhenrique
      @1walterhenrique 6 років тому

      Joe Hutchinson Thanks for the info

  • @TheManicorn69
    @TheManicorn69 6 років тому +2

    Did you say this car is NA and not Turbo? Rare bird? LOL

    • @porsche_fan6031
      @porsche_fan6031 6 років тому +2

      991.1 GTS's were NA. 991.2 GTS is 450bhp twin-turbo.

    • @TheManicorn69
      @TheManicorn69 6 років тому

      No shit!?! I just got after-school special'd...the more you know! Thanks for the info...didn't know they ever had an NA GTS.

  • @ashleyroachclip1
    @ashleyroachclip1 6 років тому

    yawn

  • @paully1227
    @paully1227 6 років тому

    The dealership didn’t probably didn’t change the tires, generally they send it out to a tire and wheel shop. This guy is a clown

  • @roberth3566
    @roberth3566 6 років тому +2

    People are human remember and makes mistakes! Maybe you should being doing the work on your own car and not complain about it. And its a GTS who cares your going to get another Porsche soon and you will find some other issues with it. Why are you wasting your time with this. No body cares Pal

    • @julius_.
      @julius_. 6 років тому +2

      salty little bitch, angry cuz you can never afford a machine as beatiful as this?

    • @blueberrycobbler
      @blueberrycobbler 6 років тому +1

      MrStarfighter56 66 Exactly.

    • @OlkjU287
      @OlkjU287 6 років тому

      😃