People don't even blink an eye waiting for hours in rush hour traffic. But if you slow them down for a second on the bike they get completely road raged.
Roads are not built for bicycles. Heavy traffic is unavoidable in some areas. Riding a freaking bicycle on bizzy streets and being an inconsiderate knucklehead is avoidable
@chadwells7562 No, but it is a group of nincumpoops riding down the middle of the street. Then they cry like babies and get confrontational. All the car did was honk his horn. The unhinged cyclist got what he deserved
Your comment is a joke, isn't it? They are the worst. I do no longer ride on roads in Italy because they do not give you any space at all. They are crazy. I only use the dedicated cycling paths in northern parts of Italy.
@@Garfie1d73 Compared to the US, drivers in the Turin area are much more attentive. This morning as I was descending from 700 meters to Torino all of the cars that wanted to pass waited until they had plenty of space.
@@Garfie1d73 I wish I had dedicated cycling paths. I have a shoulder blocked by construction of new lanes, and a 4 lane intersection I have a 6 second pedestrian crossing indicator
In Italy, the drivers are not that aggressive or getting into huge rage but they often don't really pay attention for cyclists, especially in terms of side-space. Spanish drivers at least outside the huge cities are more aware as far as I could experience.
I am a car guy that loves to drive fast (where it is allowed) and a cyclist that loves to ride fast. If you are fast on the bike you eventually hurt yourself. If you are fast in the car you eventually hurt others. Respect the bicycle! It doesnt stink, it doesnt need parking space, it‘s not loud. Your car is a weapon.
Yes a car is a weapon. So your logic is jump in front of it as it isn't your fault when your dead. Classic arrogant roadie. I am friends with the top lawyer for cyclist injuries in Colorado. She told me Cars who kill cyclist nearly every time get away with it, because juries despises road cyclists. Think about who the jury is, middle class just trying to go to work. Your bike buddies take up 100% of the lane doing 20mph in a 35mph. Thus making middle class person late to pick up their kids from school. Who fault is that? Yours! Bottom line, even though you might be right 50% of the time, your bike is ruined and your dead! Who wins and who loses from "being in the right"
@@snowthugs So that gave him the right to stop and pepper spray after he got by the cyclists, I guess he wasn't that late that he didn't have time to be an jerk. The car driver obviously needs anger management.
@@snowthugs 20 mph is perfectly fine. If someone else is going 20 mph, you can go 20 mph too. If you can't fit on the road, that is on you for being too big. A bike does not take up 100% of the lane, a bike is tiny. The kids should be biking to school lol. Why are they being driven. Or you know kids can ride the train? It is always the fault of the driver. Always. I am amazing how much you care for the wellbeing of cyclists lol. You are so worried about them being dead.
@@snowthugsif they’re late picking up their kid after being “stuck” behind someone doing 20 in 35 for a minute (average car cyclist interaction is like less than 10 seconds btw), they were already late…that’s 100% their fault.
Cyclists have as much right to use the road as cars. People are impatient, they were passing another cyclist - the comment section is full of apologists to the driver. They assault the cyclists. The road does not belong to cars alone.
@@Ho-Lee-Chit_Fu-Kin-Fast The road is huge and the bikes are tiny. There is plenty of space. If your car is too big, that is on you. Share the road and ride a bike. Driving a car is NOT sharing the road. Driving a car is taking up space.
Surprisingly some comments claiming to be from a cyclist don't seem to understand Sharrows. The road here was marked so. This marking indicates that road is not wide enough for sharing side by side, that's why cyclists are encouraged to "take the lane". That cars should expect cyclists on this road. They can pass by moving to the next lane when safe to do so. Following the car like that was unwise of course, but the car was being an asshole first.
Half this comment section is mad for defending the car person. You guys were in a single file line taking up as much space needed to ride safely at those speeds. I really don’t see the problem here, what do they want you to do? Just not exist on the road at all??? Actually so childish
First, they were not in single file. They were often double file. Second, this pack of bikers didn't even stay on their half of the road. They took over almost the whole road at times.
@@Bigwave2003 first, the driver pepper sprays a dude on a bicycle. how threatened do you feel inside a car to pull that shit and then speed off? second, they overtook into the road AFTER the driver runs one oncoming rider off the road and then cuts off the entire group of riders. get the fuck out of here with your car defense.
@@Bigwave2003 I cycle this road 3 times per week and there's a shared lane sign at both ends that notifies drivers that cyclists have the right of way. They are not required to let cars pass through this section. It's a narrow section of roadway that connects a couple of larger streets with bike lanes. It's one of the busiest cycling routes in the entire Chicagoland area.
@@chadverlyDid you miss the part in the video where there's a guy riding his bicycle in the oncoming traffic and a blind corner, so please explain why you think this is the right of way.
Car driver is speeding as limit i set to 25 miles per hour and cyclist goes to 37/40km/h (which is 25 miles per hour actually), then overtakes putting in danger other users on both directions and lastly assaultting with pepper spray. Complete as**ole right there.
To all the people on here saying what's the big hurry. Do you say the same thing when you're driving and the guy in front of you is going 15 mph under the speed limit and you can't pass them?
@cycologist7069 they could have easily moved over and let them pass but choose not to. The point isn't how close he passed. It's the frustration of riding behind someone going well below the speed limit and them acting like jerks about it.
Are you plated? Do you pay insurance to ride? Respect goes both ways. I see a lot of cyclists who want to stir up a hornet's nest. Auto Drivers can be real douchebags too. Ultimately, the cyclist loses in a car vs bike confrontation. Think about it... John Waine apparently said, "Life is tough, it's even tougher if you're STUPID".
I hope the driver of the car is held accountable for their actions. This is clearly a case of aggravated assault. However, I will add that the cyclist in question should have just ridden on and not continued to confront that driver, as tempting as it is to get in their face and be like "WTF????". Believe me, I get it!!! I live in Texas and I ride on the roads here. I will not fuck with any motorist here because everyone's armed and you never know. It's just better to shrug it off and finish your ride.
0:43 What an i d i o t! Speedlimit 25mph, you lot drive that most of the time until you close in to the slower rider. It is your right to overtake him as is your right to overtake him first, because the car is behind you.
Ah yeah, I can see how somebody would feel the need to defend themselves from inside their vehicle after they first almost kill two groups of people because because they can't wait for a proper overtake spot (like you would when there's a car ahead).
The road is not a sports field. And the traffic rules also apply to you cyclists. And then also harass others in their cars... Behave according to your age. 🙄
Despite that cyclist being frustrated he was better off to just leaving the driver alone, could've been something else than pepper spray like a gun or a knife or a bat.
Most people driving cars can't seem to control their own minds enough to drive the speed limit and will act like someone who is at the speed limit is in their way. I bike and also drive a fair amount and when I'm in traffic I set my cruise at the speed limit and will be the slowest one on the road, but it is very relaxing. When I'm on my bike I do everything to help with the smooth and safe flow of traffic.
This comment section is a bike vs car war. I blame both for reckless behavior. Bikers should follow the same road laws and drivers shouldn't be weaponizing their vehicle or pepper spraying anyone unless they are being attacked.
The cyclists were acting lawfully and safely, up until the point where they began acting in self defense. There is no way in which the cyclists are to blame for the driver's impatience, and unlike the car's reckless behavior, the cyclists did not endanger others when they followed the car through the stop sign.
@@difflocktwo that too but its a lot more difficult to change people’s behavior through brute force as opposed to reforming infrastructure. We’ve given people only one option with car-centric infrastructure, its a lot less effective and hurts a lot more people to punish drivers in mass for using the only option we’ve given them. Instead we should give people more options to bike safely, and more people will come. For example, people don’t slow down just because of a sign they slow down because of how the road is designed (aka speed traps).
the best deterrent I seen for this was a guy I think in Texas who opened carried and wore high vis with the words armed cyclist - as far as I aware he never gets hassle, apart from a few cops. I would say that this incident was premeditated, as he sprayed away ~Trooper
It annoys me when people **JUSTIFY** their bad behavior because someone else is bad. You sound like a child and you are a child for feeling validated and given the green light to just toss logic out the window and act like a buffoon. "They did it, so now I can unleash hell." - Always spoken by a child regardless of age. Car is at fault because they have a clear problem not assaulting people. Whether it's with their car or their hands. You want a different outcome, start acting like an adult when you drive, and be a team player. Unending conflict is started by people's inability to recognize what they should be fighting for, and using other people's bad behavior to fuel their continuing dissidence.
Driver in the wrong. Cyclist crossing solid yellow wrong. Cyclist chasing down/confronting driver is wrong and dangerous. Luckily only pepper spray and not a pew pew.
Typical motorist who thinks use of the public road is their right, and that speed limits are just suggestions, and that endangerment of lives for any reason is justified.
You don't know what you're talking about. This stretch of road has signs that say vehicles must yield to cyclists. Not only that, it's a residential street with blind corners that no one should be driving fast on. BTW, there is a different section of road in this area where cyclists are not allowed to ride, which is why this particular road gives them priority. It's one of the busiest cycling routes north of Chicago.
Shared roadways like this unmarked cars are predisposed to share the roadway just subconsciously. Yet this person still behaves this way. Very interesting statistical anomoly this one should have their license revoked and a mandatory mental health screening not driving around a lethal weapon.
Y’all are missing the point on how to solve conflicts like this. It shouldn’t be a blame game. You can never change individual behavior but you can change your infrastructure to be safer. Bike lanes are needed here. Most European and many East Asian countries have constructed this infrastructure and it is much needed in North America. It’s really the only way to keep our streets safe. But car and oil corporations know they’d lose money so they lobby the government to only build car-centric infrastructure. As a result thousands of cyclists and pedestrians are killed every year
Cars take up a full lane and often move/swerve between lanes, but you believe cyclists must never use the full lane. Your logic is flawed and infantile.
This is a short, residential, narrow section of roadway that has signs at both ends notifying drivers that it's a shared lane with cyclists. There is no need for the car to pass in this instance. It's about a 1/2 mile stretch between two bigger streets with bike lanes. Trust me, I bike this route routinely.
Well deserved. You should be riding single file, not hogging the entire street. I'm a cyclist and driver myself, but I've never seen anyone more entitled on the road than road cyclist tour de France wannabes, taking up the whole road and then scratching your car or breaking your mirror if you dare say anything. Good on the driver, hopefully the cyclists learn a lesson, but I doubt it.
Wrong. They’re supposed to ride in the road. It’s recommended for safety that groups of cyclists ride two abreast in the road. Drivers are legally required to treat such groups of cyclists as they would any other vehicle. Just because individual cyclists often ride to the side doesn’t mean that it’s the same for groups of cyclists. It’s actually safer to force drivers to pass safely and treat a group the same as they would any other vehicle. The law provides for cyclists to ride in the road and drivers do not have some sacred right to the road.
I'm a avid cyclest,,, it's to bad that the group of riders didn't thin out into single file too allow the car to pass safely... al person can see Rider's double'ed up and not allow-ing vehicles to pass... I'd have too say that the group set themselves up too fail. It's illegal too ride side by side in group's or imped on the follow of traffic in alot of Country's around the World,, especially in today's world... play the game and find out what happens I guess. The folk's in the car were probably trying too pass the group of riders for miles after miles and the cyclest wouldn't allow it because of Arrogance I bet...
The driver was a maniac. Drivers are trying to kill you, you do not give them a single inch. So what if it is illegal to ride a bike in some certain way, does that mean you should run them over? If the drivers cannot pass, too bad. Why are they more important than anyone else?
He shouldn't pass them because they were riding at speed limit. He was speeding. And then he attacked the cyclist with a paper spray. That's another offense.
Then you’re a poor cyclist. Groups of cyclists are supposed to ride in the road to force cars to treat them like another vehicle. It’s actually safer. When cyclists are forced to the side, drivers swipe too close; which works for an individual cyclist because they aren’t in close proximity to other cyclists and they have more latitude to swerve. But groups of cyclists are supposed to ride in the road. Drivers are required to treat them as a single vehicle and pass accordingly.
I am an avid cyclist and try my best not to annoy motorists. A peloton like yours in the middle of a busy street seems a bit excessive. But also being pepper sprayed is a bit excessive too. We all have to get along and share the roads.😊
This wasn't a busy street. It's a 1000 foot stretch of road that's a bypass for cyclists to use. The sign saying "bikes can use full lane" is there for that reason.
Car driver is speeding, the limit on that road section is set at 25 miles per hour and cyclist goes to 37/40km/h (which is 25 miles per hour actually), don't you think is excessive enough. If there was a car driving at that speed he wouldn't be behaving like that.
@@joseortega584 Nope. The cyclists are supposed to ride in the actual road when in a group and drivers are required to treat them like a vehicle they have to pass; which includes waiting for an appropriate overtake spot. That’s how the law is set up. The idea that cyclists are supposed to stay to the side of the lane is incorrect. Although that makes sense for individuals riding alone, it’s dangerous for groups of riders and they’re supposed to ride IN the road and be treated like any other vehicle.
Wrong in what? Cyclists can use the full lane. Driver should have waited just as he would for any other vehicular traffic. As for "chasing", my purpose was to just get the license plate on camera. I do agree that the other cyclist should not have bothered with the confrontation.
If you're a cyclist you are an idiot also. A rural neighborhood where the speed limit is probably 25. The driver of that car needs their face slapped. They're the ones endangering people, not the cyclists.
Cycling at 37kph is too fast in the neighbourhood, especially so many bend, junction, bad road cond & narrow road. We here will find any one way several lane road to ride fast at 35kph and above. Maybe there is no kind of road nearby in your region. So be it, be careful, follow road traffic regulation, anything bad happened let the law make the decision.
The sign that says 'Bicycles May Use Full Lane' also says 'Ride Single File' right under it. These riders are clearly a daily problem for people tying to go to work. This escalated to this point for a reason. Not saying he deserved it, but not saying he didn't either. I bet they don't ride like a holes anymore.
Are you stupid or are you just an idiot? It was a 25mph residential street. People need to chill, maybe hop on a bike. Save themselves a little money. Maybe lose a little weight 😂
Group was single file and moved over to pass another rider ahead that was not in the group. It only became not single file after we were almost hit since some folks were a bit taken by surprise
@@keirfarnum6811 Were they though? Even at 1:01 when most of them were nowhere close to the side of the road and one (the same imbecile that got pepper sprayed incidentally) was on the other side of the road?
@@listey They don't cause anything. Bikes are no danger to pedestrians. Do you expect pedestrians to be safer in cities with a lot of cycling or in cities with minimal cycling?
If you want to race your car, do it on a track. If you want to race your bicycle, DO IT ON A TRACK. Don't cycle in the middle of the road. Come over to the Netherlands to learn how.
Hey bro from the Netherlands there's no where else to ride your bike. 5 hours to my closest velodrome with no trains no busses only a car I can use to get there. Closest shared walking path I can ride my bike to is 10 miles long 4 feet wide and 13 miles away
They’re called “road bikes” for a reason. You guys have a massive amount of cycling infrastructure over there; we don’t have that in the US. P.S., the law here says cyclists SHOULD ride in the road and be treated like a vehicle; which means cars have to respect them and treat them like another vehicle to pass.
@@davemellor4697 we moved over to pass another cyclist ahead as a single file which is why we were near the center. This road is a bypass for cyclists for another road that bikes aren't allowed on and if you look at the 1:01 mark there's a sign that says BICYCLES MAY USE FULL LANE
@@devinkatzenberger1068 Yes i agree should not had sprayed the cyclist and i am a cyclist,BUT DONT RIDE 3 ABREAST in the uk we ride two abreast if conditions allow,but when traffic is wanting to pass we sometimes single file so to allow them to pass bur seriously you lot were all over the place!!!
@@devinkatzenberger1068 You are taking up the whole lane, then crossed the double yellow!!! Good for the car driver. Apparently you dont know the laws of physics and think the world revolves around you and your bike.
Wait did these innocent drivers just run into each other. 😂😂. Here is what the driver going to say "He was an immediate threat and I fear for my life, so I was forced to pepper spray him".
Not sure what there is to review. The group moved over to pass another cyclist ahead. Full use of the lane is allowed. Driver was speeding, improperly used the lane and nearly caused a head on collision with both a different oncoming cyclist and car. And on top of that was clearly speeding in a residential zone. On a stretch of road that's less that 1000 feet, the driver could have easily waited just as drivers do with other drivers. But he chose to put many people in danger. The fault here is with the driver, who is a road rage lunatic...period.
Those bikes didn't care about others, this is why cyclists need to have plates also all over the road, turning corners blindly, running stops signs. They want accountability, well, it should be a two-way street
That’s what happens when you use public roadways as your playground. I spent many years in the cycling community but never got into road bikes. That subset of the community was insufferable. I swear, get two or more road bike cyclists together and the first thing they do is begin to lobby local government for more road bike privileges to the point they own the roads.
Are you stupid or are you just an idiot? That was a 25mph road and a sign said cyclists could use the full lane. Or do you think his use of pepper spray was justified? Good thing they got his plates in the video! That'll be a nasty ticket at best 😊
We need more bike infrastructure so people don't have to use cars for everything. I wonder if the driver pepper sprays the driver of a camper that isn't going the speed limit.
Yep, almost all car use is frivolous, using public road ways as a playground. Explain how someone riding one of the most efficient and smallest vehicles known to man is going to take over the road lol. Cars are the ones taking over the roads and the skies.
Bunch of you all over the road forcing traffic to do stupid stuff or wait until you guys are done with whatever road you're on. Someone does stupid stuff. One of you chases him/her down to confront (becoming an aggressor) and gets pepper sprayed. Play stupid games: win stupid prizes. 🤷
Bicycle is part of traffic, isn't it? There's even vertical sign on the road. All the driver had to do was to wait 30 second until the next intersection, instead he chose to risk his property and mostly health of few other people. Yet you still find a twisted way to blame it on the cyclists - "forcing traffic to do stupid stuff" - was there really anyone else but himself forcing him to do this stupid shit?
@@ChargeNReact That road is a bypass for cyclists. We move over to pass another cyclist as a single line of riders. And if you look carefully, there's a sign that says BICYCLES MAY USE FULL LANE at the 1:01 mark.
@@ds6872it's not the honking it's that he went into opposing lane to pass and nearly went head on to another bike and car so he swerved back into the group to avoid the car.
@PeacefulCycling When you enter public space and act like a nuisance, you're forcing people to make a decision. Some people are going to make good decisions, and some people are not. You can't ride a bicycle down the middle of the road and cry when you're put in a situation you don't like
@@ds6872 There is a law against honking your horn. Also, it causes hearing damage, so it's assault/battery. The only nuisance here are the cars and drivers. You absolutely can cry about whatever you want whenever you want.
No excuse for pepper spray and leaving; unless, fearing an apparently angry and aggressive cyclist. Also, where I live it is unlawful to pass by crossing over the center line on a curve. Lessons to be learned by all.
As an avid cyclist for over 60 years. I've seen this more than once. Arrogant cyclist hogging the road thinking its ok to hinder traffic. The saying "share the road" goes both ways. You will always lose the battle with a motor vehicle.
You are no cyclist. Those guys doing the speedlimit with ease and they ARE traffic they don't hinder it! The driver was speeding and this road is too narrow to legally overtake!
I agree there are too many damn cars. Oh well, they'll probably only live to like 50 assuming they're sedentary and overweight which they typically are.
No. Drivers are required to treat cyclists as another vehicle and bicycles have just as much right to the road. Roads aren’t just for cars. Get over it.
People don't even blink an eye waiting for hours in rush hour traffic. But if you slow them down for a second on the bike they get completely road raged.
Roads are not built for bicycles. Heavy traffic is unavoidable in some areas. Riding a freaking bicycle on bizzy streets and being an inconsiderate knucklehead is avoidable
@@ds6872Did that look like a busy road to you? 😂
@chadwells7562 No, but it is a group of nincumpoops riding down the middle of the street. Then they cry like babies and get confrontational. All the car did was honk his horn. The unhinged cyclist got what he deserved
@ds6872 busy??
@@ds6872jeez. Why are people so ignorant???
I live in Italy and drivers are so much more aware of and courteous toward cyclists here.
Your comment is a joke, isn't it? They are the worst. I do no longer ride on roads in Italy because they do not give you any space at all. They are crazy. I only use the dedicated cycling paths in northern parts of Italy.
@@Garfie1d73 Compared to the US, drivers in the Turin area are much more attentive. This morning as I was descending from 700 meters to Torino all of the cars that wanted to pass waited until they had plenty of space.
@@Garfie1d73 I wish I had dedicated cycling paths. I have a shoulder blocked by construction of new lanes, and a 4 lane intersection I have a 6 second pedestrian crossing indicator
In Italy, the drivers are not that aggressive or getting into huge rage but they often don't really pay attention for cyclists, especially in terms of side-space. Spanish drivers at least outside the huge cities are more aware as far as I could experience.
@@ConsciousDecision-b4v Spanish drivers are fantastic! So respectful!
I am a car guy that loves to drive fast (where it is allowed) and a cyclist that loves to ride fast. If you are fast on the bike you eventually hurt yourself. If you are fast in the car you eventually hurt others. Respect the bicycle! It doesnt stink, it doesnt need parking space, it‘s not loud. Your car is a weapon.
Yes a car is a weapon. So your logic is jump in front of it as it isn't your fault when your dead. Classic arrogant roadie. I am friends with the top lawyer for cyclist injuries in Colorado. She told me Cars who kill cyclist nearly every time get away with it, because juries despises road cyclists. Think about who the jury is, middle class just trying to go to work. Your bike buddies take up 100% of the lane doing 20mph in a 35mph. Thus making middle class person late to pick up their kids from school. Who fault is that? Yours! Bottom line, even though you might be right 50% of the time, your bike is ruined and your dead! Who wins and who loses from "being in the right"
@@snowthugs Maybe he was late because he got stuck behind CARS in traffic or left so late he couldn't use common courtesy.
@@snowthugs So that gave him the right to stop and pepper spray after he got by the cyclists, I guess he wasn't that late that he didn't have time to be an jerk. The car driver obviously needs anger management.
@@snowthugs 20 mph is perfectly fine. If someone else is going 20 mph, you can go 20 mph too. If you can't fit on the road, that is on you for being too big. A bike does not take up 100% of the lane, a bike is tiny.
The kids should be biking to school lol. Why are they being driven. Or you know kids can ride the train?
It is always the fault of the driver. Always.
I am amazing how much you care for the wellbeing of cyclists lol. You are so worried about them being dead.
@@snowthugsif they’re late picking up their kid after being “stuck” behind someone doing 20 in 35 for a minute (average car cyclist interaction is like less than 10 seconds btw), they were already late…that’s 100% their fault.
Cyclists have as much right to use the road as cars. People are impatient, they were passing another cyclist - the comment section is full of apologists to the driver. They assault the cyclists. The road does not belong to cars alone.
"The road does not belong to cars alone."
Then act like it and dont cycle next to each other or in the middle of the road.
SHARE THE ROAD
Why are they riding in such an obnoxious manner? The road does not belong to cyclists alone.
@@Ho-Lee-Chit_Fu-Kin-Fast The road is huge and the bikes are tiny. There is plenty of space. If your car is too big, that is on you. Share the road and ride a bike. Driving a car is NOT sharing the road. Driving a car is taking up space.
@@listey What is obnoxious? Just some dudes riding bikes.
@@difflocktwo hahahah quite an amusing comment. The roads are literally for cars, or is that lost on you?
Car driver is in such a hurry he stops and waits for the cyclist , it happens so often
stop sign
@@whitesubaru-b2g so he rushed to a stop sign and didnt get any further than if he just chilled out behind the cyclists
He stopped at the stop sign and the cyclist catches up with him or her and runs the stop sign to start road rage with the driver.
@@38KSW What drugs are you at?
Pepper spray Psycho should be jailed!
Surprisingly some comments claiming to be from a cyclist don't seem to understand Sharrows. The road here was marked so. This marking indicates that road is not wide enough for sharing side by side, that's why cyclists are encouraged to "take the lane". That cars should expect cyclists on this road. They can pass by moving to the next lane when safe to do so.
Following the car like that was unwise of course, but the car was being an asshole first.
Tempolimit 25 He should hav stayed behind
1:22 Into prison with him! This is assault!!! Why id he overtake you in the first place??? You are clearly faster than him!
Half this comment section is mad for defending the car person. You guys were in a single file line taking up as much space needed to ride safely at those speeds. I really don’t see the problem here, what do they want you to do? Just not exist on the road at all??? Actually so childish
First, they were not in single file. They were often double file. Second, this pack of bikers didn't even stay on their half of the road. They took over almost the whole road at times.
@@Bigwave2003Cars do that all the time so why can’t cyclists do it?
@@Bigwave2003 first, the driver pepper sprays a dude on a bicycle. how threatened do you feel inside a car to pull that shit and then speed off? second, they overtook into the road AFTER the driver runs one oncoming rider off the road and then cuts off the entire group of riders. get the fuck out of here with your car defense.
@@Bigwave2003 I cycle this road 3 times per week and there's a shared lane sign at both ends that notifies drivers that cyclists have the right of way. They are not required to let cars pass through this section. It's a narrow section of roadway that connects a couple of larger streets with bike lanes. It's one of the busiest cycling routes in the entire Chicagoland area.
@@chadverlyDid you miss the part in the video where there's a guy riding his bicycle in the oncoming traffic and a blind corner, so please explain why you think this is the right of way.
I'm sorry but you guys are all over the lane like it's a race, very dangerous especially going into the opposite.
Car driver is speeding as limit i set to 25 miles per hour and cyclist goes to 37/40km/h (which is 25 miles per hour actually), then overtakes putting in danger other users on both directions and lastly assaultting with pepper spray. Complete as**ole right there.
To all the people on here saying what's the big hurry. Do you say the same thing when you're driving and the guy in front of you is going 15 mph under the speed limit and you can't pass them?
False equivalence. The driver had plenty of room to pass. He/she chose to close pass.
@cycologist7069 they could have easily moved over and let them pass but choose not to. The point isn't how close he passed. It's the frustration of riding behind someone going well below the speed limit and them acting like jerks about it.
@@ormcqu The point very much IS how close he chose to pass. I am right, you are wrong.
@cycologist7069 it may be the point you're trying to make, but it's not the one I'm making.
@@ormcqu Again, I’m right and you’re wrong.
I hope the driver was reported to the authorities
He was.
The cyclist are in the wrong to start with.so becarful with reporting him.
Why were the cyclists wrong?
@@waynebritten No they weren’t, nor do you truly hold the opinion they were.
Are you plated? Do you pay insurance to ride? Respect goes both ways. I see a lot of cyclists who want to stir up a hornet's nest. Auto Drivers can be real douchebags too. Ultimately, the cyclist loses in a car vs bike confrontation. Think about it... John Waine apparently said, "Life is tough, it's even tougher if you're STUPID".
My wife says I use too much pepper on my mashed potatoes.
I hope the driver of the car is held accountable for their actions. This is clearly a case of aggravated assault. However, I will add that the cyclist in question should have just ridden on and not continued to confront that driver, as tempting as it is to get in their face and be like "WTF????". Believe me, I get it!!! I live in Texas and I ride on the roads here. I will not fuck with any motorist here because everyone's armed and you never know. It's just better to shrug it off and finish your ride.
Just wear a plate.
Oh what a shitty driver. Yea, call the cops and report for sure. Hope the cyclist is OK.
Insane.
0:43 What an i d i o t! Speedlimit 25mph, you lot drive that most of the time until you close in to the slower rider. It is your right to overtake him as is your right to overtake him first, because the car is behind you.
Ah yeah, I can see how somebody would feel the need to defend themselves from inside their vehicle after they first almost kill two groups of people because because they can't wait for a proper overtake spot (like you would when there's a car ahead).
Lawyers will still be able to argue it in court unfortunately. Probably successfully.
The road is not a sports field.
And the traffic rules also apply to you cyclists.
And then also harass others in their cars...
Behave according to your age. 🙄
Despite that cyclist being frustrated he was better off to just leaving the driver alone, could've been something else than pepper spray like a gun or a knife or a bat.
Most people driving cars can't seem to control their own minds enough to drive the speed limit and will act like someone who is at the speed limit is in their way. I bike and also drive a fair amount and when I'm in traffic I set my cruise at the speed limit and will be the slowest one on the road, but it is very relaxing. When I'm on my bike I do everything to help with the smooth and safe flow of traffic.
This comment section is a bike vs car war. I blame both for reckless behavior. Bikers should follow the same road laws and drivers shouldn't be weaponizing their vehicle or pepper spraying anyone unless they are being attacked.
The cyclists were acting lawfully and safely, up until the point where they began acting in self defense. There is no way in which the cyclists are to blame for the driver's impatience, and unlike the car's reckless behavior, the cyclists did not endanger others when they followed the car through the stop sign.
There needs to be bike infrastructure. Bike lanes are the only way to avoid this kind of conflict and keep streets safe.
@@liamkelley6252 No, there needs to be enforcement and massive restrictions on driving.
@@difflocktwo that too but its a lot more difficult to change people’s behavior through brute force as opposed to reforming infrastructure. We’ve given people only one option with car-centric infrastructure, its a lot less effective and hurts a lot more people to punish drivers in mass for using the only option we’ve given them. Instead we should give people more options to bike safely, and more people will come. For example, people don’t slow down just because of a sign they slow down because of how the road is designed (aka speed traps).
Should not have confronted the driver. Just let it go.
a car addict who thinks that they have a right to drive at whatever speed they want and anyone who's slower than that is taking away their right.
Right, dude in the car way over reacted. I usually just through my coffee on cyclist
@@ds6872 i drive as well, what are you gonna do when i drive in front of you at a speed you think is slow?
the best deterrent I seen for this was a guy I think in Texas who opened carried and wore high vis with the words armed cyclist - as far as I aware he never gets hassle, apart from a few cops. I would say that this incident was premeditated, as he sprayed away ~Trooper
Thank god the plate was visible - CH 48568
It annoys me when people **JUSTIFY** their bad behavior because someone else is bad. You sound like a child and you are a child for feeling validated and given the green light to just toss logic out the window and act like a buffoon. "They did it, so now I can unleash hell." - Always spoken by a child regardless of age. Car is at fault because they have a clear problem not assaulting people. Whether it's with their car or their hands. You want a different outcome, start acting like an adult when you drive, and be a team player. Unending conflict is started by people's inability to recognize what they should be fighting for, and using other people's bad behavior to fuel their continuing dissidence.
Która jest godzina
What area is this ride happening in?
Glencoe
@@PeacefulCyclingthank you so much. See it’s an American plate. What state is Glencoe in please?
@@seanmelvin5115Illinois
@@seanmelvin5115 Chicago suburb.
Driver in the wrong. Cyclist crossing solid yellow wrong. Cyclist chasing down/confronting driver is wrong and dangerous. Luckily only pepper spray and not a pew pew.
Typical pack riding thinking they own the road and everyone must wait and travel at there speed
Typical motorist who thinks use of the public road is their right, and that speed limits are just suggestions, and that endangerment of lives for any reason is justified.
You don't know what you're talking about. This stretch of road has signs that say vehicles must yield to cyclists. Not only that, it's a residential street with blind corners that no one should be driving fast on. BTW, there is a different section of road in this area where cyclists are not allowed to ride, which is why this particular road gives them priority. It's one of the busiest cycling routes north of Chicago.
Shared roadways like this unmarked cars are predisposed to share the roadway just subconsciously. Yet this person still behaves this way. Very interesting statistical anomoly this one should have their license revoked and a mandatory mental health screening not driving around a lethal weapon.
I bet the driver as an angry white guy. It’s amazing how drivers in the USA are always so angry.
As a cyclist I have to say you guys a bunch of assholes. Move over and let the cars pass. I don't agree with what the driver did either.
Useless police.
Jesus's wept
20kph not 37kph to fast..
speed limit 40 kph, 25 mph
Y’all are missing the point on how to solve conflicts like this. It shouldn’t be a blame game. You can never change individual behavior but you can change your infrastructure to be safer. Bike lanes are needed here. Most European and many East Asian countries have constructed this infrastructure and it is much needed in North America. It’s really the only way to keep our streets safe. But car and oil corporations know they’d lose money so they lobby the government to only build car-centric infrastructure. As a result thousands of cyclists and pedestrians are killed every year
I am a cyclist but these guys were all over the road , stay in line
They’re going 25 mph in a residential area. Why did the car feel the need to pass?
Cars take up a full lane and often move/swerve between lanes, but you believe cyclists must never use the full lane. Your logic is flawed and infantile.
Dont have to learn the laws of the road
@@CodyKing bikes doing 33kph (20 mph) car passing at 25 mph is not illegal
This is a short, residential, narrow section of roadway that has signs at both ends notifying drivers that it's a shared lane with cyclists. There is no need for the car to pass in this instance. It's about a 1/2 mile stretch between two bigger streets with bike lanes. Trust me, I bike this route routinely.
Well deserved. You should be riding single file, not hogging the entire street. I'm a cyclist and driver myself, but I've never seen anyone more entitled on the road than road cyclist tour de France wannabes, taking up the whole road and then scratching your car or breaking your mirror if you dare say anything. Good on the driver, hopefully the cyclists learn a lesson, but I doubt it.
Wrong. They’re supposed to ride in the road. It’s recommended for safety that groups of cyclists ride two abreast in the road. Drivers are legally required to treat such groups of cyclists as they would any other vehicle. Just because individual cyclists often ride to the side doesn’t mean that it’s the same for groups of cyclists. It’s actually safer to force drivers to pass safely and treat a group the same as they would any other vehicle.
The law provides for cyclists to ride in the road and drivers do not have some sacred right to the road.
Cars take up much more space that cyclists and cars do much more damage than cyclist. You got some screws loose.
Cars/car owners/ drivers are the most entitled species on the planet.
Endorsing assault is not a good look.
I'm a avid cyclest,,, it's to bad that the group of riders didn't thin out into single file too allow the car to pass safely... al person can see Rider's double'ed up and not allow-ing vehicles to pass... I'd have too say that the group set themselves up too fail. It's illegal too ride side by side in group's or imped on the follow of traffic in alot of Country's around the World,, especially in today's world... play the game and find out what happens I guess. The folk's in the car were probably trying too pass the group of riders for miles after miles and the cyclest wouldn't allow it because of Arrogance I bet...
The driver was a maniac. Drivers are trying to kill you, you do not give them a single inch.
So what if it is illegal to ride a bike in some certain way, does that mean you should run them over?
If the drivers cannot pass, too bad. Why are they more important than anyone else?
He shouldn't pass them because they were riding at speed limit. He was speeding. And then he attacked the cyclist with a paper spray. That's another offense.
Then you’re a poor cyclist. Groups of cyclists are supposed to ride in the road to force cars to treat them like another vehicle. It’s actually safer. When cyclists are forced to the side, drivers swipe too close; which works for an individual cyclist because they aren’t in close proximity to other cyclists and they have more latitude to swerve. But groups of cyclists are supposed to ride in the road. Drivers are required to treat them as a single vehicle and pass accordingly.
@@difflocktwo
The cyclists were perfectly within their rights to ride in the road. It’s not illegal and it’s recommended for safety.
@@keirfarnum6811 I know, but even if we assume it is illegal, so what? It is the least invasive thing, some dudes riding bicycles.
Entitlement and the Drama. Feeding off each bad ass ness.
I am an avid cyclist and try my best not to annoy motorists. A peloton like yours in the middle of a busy street seems a bit excessive. But also being pepper sprayed is a bit excessive too. We all have to get along and share the roads.😊
This wasn't a busy street. It's a 1000 foot stretch of road that's a bypass for cyclists to use. The sign saying "bikes can use full lane" is there for that reason.
@@PeacefulCycling thanks for that explanation.
Car driver is speeding, the limit on that road section is set at 25 miles per hour and cyclist goes to 37/40km/h (which is 25 miles per hour actually), don't you think is excessive enough. If there was a car driving at that speed he wouldn't be behaving like that.
These bozos were all over the road. Thinking they are in a grand tour with closed roads. NOT!
A cyclist has the right to the entire lane for safety from idiot motorists. Educate yourself.
They were on a 25 mph residential street where a sign said bicycles can use a full lane. Are you stupid or are you just an idiot?
I agree.... these cyclists like many others think they are untouchable...!!! It's Not a closed course...!!!
@@joseortega584
Nope. The cyclists are supposed to ride in the actual road when in a group and drivers are required to treat them like a vehicle they have to pass; which includes waiting for an appropriate overtake spot. That’s how the law is set up. The idea that cyclists are supposed to stay to the side of the lane is incorrect. Although that makes sense for individuals riding alone, it’s dangerous for groups of riders and they’re supposed to ride IN the road and be treated like any other vehicle.
@@ericperez1156 that's how they end up under a car or Peper sprayed..lol
You guys were wrong. Why would you chase after him. Also you guys think you own the roads
Wrong in what? Cyclists can use the full lane. Driver should have waited just as he would for any other vehicular traffic. As for "chasing", my purpose was to just get the license plate on camera. I do agree that the other cyclist should not have bothered with the confrontation.
porkchop you dummy They were going the speedlimit of 25mph. The driver had no right to honk at themand no right to pass them.
Technically they do, they are local and he was from out of town and doesn't pay local taxes that pay for the roads.
Yes, the pepper spray was excessive, but you guys were all over the road blocking him from passing. And yes, I'm a cyclist.
They're going the speed limit - what's the problem? Let them block the whole lane, they shouldn't be getting passed.
If you're a cyclist you are an idiot also. A rural neighborhood where the speed limit is probably 25. The driver of that car needs their face slapped. They're the ones endangering people, not the cyclists.
It’s ridiculous, people need to calm down, it was an inconvenience for what a minute? Which you can easily make up in a car.
So imagine if there was a car riding at speed limit instead of cyclists. Would you pass it? No. You would ride at speed limit like everybody else.
You’re not a cyclist.
Cycling at 37kph is too fast in the neighbourhood, especially so many bend, junction, bad road cond & narrow road.
We here will find any one way several lane road to ride fast at 35kph and above.
Maybe there is no kind of road nearby in your region. So be it, be careful, follow road traffic regulation, anything bad happened let the law make the decision.
That car was going much much faster.
The limit on that street and in that area is 40k/hr. Why is 37 too fast for bike but not car?
The sign that says 'Bicycles May Use Full Lane' also says 'Ride Single File' right under it. These riders are clearly a daily problem for people tying to go to work. This escalated to this point for a reason. Not saying he deserved it, but not saying he didn't either. I bet they don't ride like a holes anymore.
Are you stupid or are you just an idiot? It was a 25mph residential street. People need to chill, maybe hop on a bike. Save themselves a little money. Maybe lose a little weight 😂
Group was single file and moved over to pass another rider ahead that was not in the group. It only became not single file after we were almost hit since some folks were a bit taken by surprise
Civil suit. Easy case. A psychologist will gladly substantiate your trauma from this event. Make this guy hurt.
They tried!
"Peaceful Cycling" is an hilariously ironic channel name given the carnage you and your mates cause!!
They didn’t cause any “carnage”. They were riding in their lane just like they’re required to.
@@keirfarnum6811 Were they though? Even at 1:01 when most of them were nowhere close to the side of the road and one (the same imbecile that got pepper sprayed incidentally) was on the other side of the road?
@@listey A bike can do no harm.
@@difflocktwo really? Why are they often causing danger to pedestrians then?
@@listey They don't cause anything. Bikes are no danger to pedestrians. Do you expect pedestrians to be safer in cities with a lot of cycling or in cities with minimal cycling?
If you want to race your car, do it on a track. If you want to race your bicycle, DO IT ON A TRACK.
Don't cycle in the middle of the road.
Come over to the Netherlands to learn how.
Finally some common sense here.
Roads take you from A to B. Track does not take you anywhere.
Hey bro from the Netherlands there's no where else to ride your bike. 5 hours to my closest velodrome with no trains no busses only a car I can use to get there.
Closest shared walking path I can ride my bike to is 10 miles long 4 feet wide and 13 miles away
Please by all means pay for my ticket however
They’re called “road bikes” for a reason. You guys have a massive amount of cycling infrastructure over there; we don’t have that in the US.
P.S., the law here says cyclists SHOULD ride in the road and be treated like a vehicle; which means cars have to respect them and treat them like another vehicle to pass.
YOU WERE ALL OVER THE ROAD i am a cyclist you dont ride like that!!!!!
@@davemellor4697 we moved over to pass another cyclist ahead as a single file which is why we were near the center. This road is a bypass for cyclists for another road that bikes aren't allowed on and if you look at the 1:01 mark there's a sign that says BICYCLES MAY USE FULL LANE
get fucked
@@devinkatzenberger1068 Yes i agree should not had sprayed the cyclist and i am a cyclist,BUT DONT RIDE 3 ABREAST in the uk we ride two abreast if conditions allow,but when traffic is wanting to pass we sometimes single file so to allow them to pass bur seriously you lot were all over the place!!!
@@davemellor4697 Exactly, thank you!!
@@devinkatzenberger1068 You are taking up the whole lane, then crossed the double yellow!!! Good for the car driver. Apparently you dont know the laws of physics and think the world revolves around you and your bike.
Wait did these innocent drivers just run into each other. 😂😂. Here is what the driver going to say "He was an immediate threat and I fear for my life, so I was forced to pepper spray him".
Your sentence is wrong. You do not stop if you are in danger.
Police escorted you to driver's home. You POSITIVLY identified the wrong person. Review that video closely 'yall.
Not sure what there is to review. The group moved over to pass another cyclist ahead. Full use of the lane is allowed. Driver was speeding, improperly used the lane and nearly caused a head on collision with both a different oncoming cyclist and car. And on top of that was clearly speeding in a residential zone. On a stretch of road that's less that 1000 feet, the driver could have easily waited just as drivers do with other drivers. But he chose to put many people in danger. The fault here is with the driver, who is a road rage lunatic...period.
Those bikes didn't care about others, this is why cyclists need to have plates also all over the road, turning corners blindly, running stops signs.
They want accountability, well, it should be a two-way street
That’s what happens when you use public roadways as your playground. I spent many years in the cycling community but never got into road bikes. That subset of the community was insufferable. I swear, get two or more road bike cyclists together and the first thing they do is begin to lobby local government for more road bike privileges to the point they own the roads.
Are you stupid or are you just an idiot? That was a 25mph road and a sign said cyclists could use the full lane. Or do you think his use of pepper spray was justified? Good thing they got his plates in the video! That'll be a nasty ticket at best 😊
We need more bike infrastructure so people don't have to use cars for everything. I wonder if the driver pepper sprays the driver of a camper that isn't going the speed limit.
Yep, almost all car use is frivolous, using public road ways as a playground. Explain how someone riding one of the most efficient and smallest vehicles known to man is going to take over the road lol. Cars are the ones taking over the roads and the skies.
I understand your gripes about roadies, but the rest was bull. They were riding exactly as they should be.
Bruh the bike lane isn't 16ft wide.
It literally said cyclists could use the full lane. It was a 25mph residential street. Are you stupid or are you just an idiot?
Bike lane? Where? I don't see a bike lane. Better check if you need glasses.
This is a shared roadway made by people, why do cars own it?
They’re riding in the road, as they should be.
Well you were blocking the whole lane….
They’re supposed to. Riding in a group means behaving like a single vehicle. Drivers who want to pass have to treat it like passing another vehicle.
No cyclist was blocking anything. Roads are big, bikes are small. The road is not a race track, no one gets "blocked". Wait your turn.
Bunch of you all over the road forcing traffic to do stupid stuff or wait until you guys are done with whatever road you're on. Someone does stupid stuff. One of you chases him/her down to confront (becoming an aggressor) and gets pepper sprayed.
Play stupid games: win stupid prizes. 🤷
Bicycle is part of traffic, isn't it? There's even vertical sign on the road. All the driver had to do was to wait 30 second until the next intersection, instead he chose to risk his property and mostly health of few other people. Yet you still find a twisted way to blame it on the cyclists - "forcing traffic to do stupid stuff" - was there really anyone else but himself forcing him to do this stupid shit?
@Charge 🤡🤡
180# bike + rider vs. a 4000# steel car is a bad deal for the biker...STOP IT!
@@ChargeNReact That road is a bypass for cyclists. We move over to pass another cyclist as a single line of riders. And if you look carefully, there's a sign that says BICYCLES MAY USE FULL LANE at the 1:01 mark.
you're in the wrong here
Dude holds up traffic, then gets mad when a motorist has had enough. Dude got what he deserved. Ill bet he doesn't play tough guy next time lol
Drivers are required to treat a group of riders riding two abreast like a vehicle they have to pass. That’s the law.
@@keirfarnum6811 no law against honking your horn.
@@ds6872it's not the honking it's that he went into opposing lane to pass and nearly went head on to another bike and car so he swerved back into the group to avoid the car.
@PeacefulCycling When you enter public space and act like a nuisance, you're forcing people to make a decision. Some people are going to make good decisions, and some people are not. You can't ride a bicycle down the middle of the road and cry when you're put in a situation you don't like
@@ds6872 There is a law against honking your horn. Also, it causes hearing damage, so it's assault/battery. The only nuisance here are the cars and drivers. You absolutely can cry about whatever you want whenever you want.
No excuse for pepper spray and leaving; unless, fearing an apparently angry and aggressive cyclist. Also, where I live it is unlawful to pass by crossing over the center line on a curve. Lessons to be learned by all.
As an avid cyclist for over 60 years. I've seen this more than once. Arrogant cyclist hogging the road thinking its ok to hinder traffic. The saying "share the road" goes both ways. You will always lose the battle with a motor vehicle.
You are no cyclist. Those guys doing the speedlimit with ease and they ARE traffic they don't hinder it! The driver was speeding and this road is too narrow to legally overtake!
STAY OFF OF THE ROAD!
I agree there are too many damn cars. Oh well, they'll probably only live to like 50 assuming they're sedentary and overweight which they typically are.
Yea stay off the road if you can't drive without road rage thinking everyone else is in your way.
No. Drivers are required to treat cyclists as another vehicle and bicycles have just as much right to the road. Roads aren’t just for cars. Get over it.
Ha ha brilliant 👍
I was almost killed by a cyclist who ubruptly did a u-turn in front of me. They need to pay attention and realize there are others on the road.
And that one example means what? No drivers in cars have ever done the same before? GTFOH.
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