The Golden Age Of Simracing
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Are we living in simracings golden age, and does some of the bickering matter?
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Sim racing feels like it's in a really good place and I'm sure it will continue to grow. I've noticed from the reddit more and more people getting involved with the hobby and posting about their sim racing addiction which anyone that has gotten into the hobby can easily relate to. Having fresh faces come into the space I feel brings in new ideas across the different aspects being both hardware and software.
I remember playing an F1 game with my Amiga 500 when I was a kid. At that time I was dreaming of being able to do what technology allows me to do today. Younger generations don’t know how lucky they are to have this
Don’t forget about VR. Never before has driving been so immersive. Gone is my playseat challenge. Gone is my small mid range wheel and pedals. I’m in the car, with my hands on the wheel and butt in the seat.
I totally agree with you. Have been sim racing for 14 years and i think this year is probably the most excited year yet.
This year and next year going to be so good, im so hyped for the new NASCAR standalone game next year from the iRacing team that I have recently built a full sim setup with a DD Wheel & VR.
All I want is for Sony and Microsoft to give more dd bases their licensing. It would help the whole community as a whole and pull in a lot more of newer folk to enter into sim racing. As always, whatever your platform, whatever game, happy racing my fellow sim racers.
As a lifelong player of the GT series since day one, I would still say DD bases are still a niche platform. Until the prices fall below 500-600 for the wheelbase, I don't see the GT fanbase will be switching to them. Fanatech and Logitech pretty much have the high and low end market covered.
I don’t think it’s so much a matter of them not giving the licensing so much as other companies really not focusing on their products being licensed. It seems like whenever a company submits products to be licensed they seem to get it, it just takes a while and is a royal Headache and as a result, most companies just don’t wanna do it. It would be nice to see more licensed wheels and DD bases but when you’re dealing with a third-party large company like Sony and Microsoft, it’s really never going to be easy.
I bought my wheel in january. I have had the time of my life. It really simulates the feeling. I race primarily Nascar. Being able to go home from my job as an european insurance lawyer and blast laps on the Oval against other racers is unparalleled.
Another point you somewhat talked about, but this is probably the first console generation that you can actually Sim race on. You no longer need a 1000 dollar computer and a 1000 dollar wheel and pedal set, you can plug almost any wheel into an Xbox or PS5 and have a lot of fun. The competitive side isn't as big yet, but it will be
‘almost any wheel into an Xbox or ps5’
Very untrue statement. 95% of DD wheels are not compatible with consoles.
Now, all we need is a PC port of GT7 to make the PC sim Racing line up perfect
And I wish we got more console ports of PC sims like ACC so those of us who can't afford a gaming PC could involved too!
@@quietbatperson same, unfortunately hardcore Sims haven't done a good job on consoles in terms of sales, that's why there's less incentive for studios to spend resources on consoles ports
@@vyasrushi5177 Pretty sure AC has sold well enough on console. Simracing studios are just too small to do console ports as well. Like ACC's console versions not being made by Kunos.
@@quietbatperson Sadly most SIM titles dont translate well to consoles as ACC on consoles feels nothing like the PC version, I have a Logitech G Pro Wheel and can honestly say ACC does not perform aswell on PS5 compared to PC as the force feedback is just not as good it feels like your not getting all the same details you get when playing on PC.
@@namesii1880 yes it did sell well on consoles at first but most have discovered like me the PS5 version lacks a lot of force feedback detail that the PC version has, my Logitech G Pro Racing Wheel you can 100% notice the difference going from PS5 to PC PS5 version of ACC feels like its lacking some details in the feedback, I would love to see how GT7 would run on PC as thats probably one of the best console racing games for the force feedback.
The golden age will be when someone makes a sim that doesn't have massive problems.
While the quality of modern sims is undeniable the thing that all they all miss is the fun element that existing in games like GPL and Nascar Racing....opponents cars randomly breaking down and pulling of the track, other cars engines blowing up with plumes of smoke, cars pulling into the pits...the sort of things that happen in real racing were included as part of the action. As much as l love the modern sims they have all become a little bit more sterile in comparison.
Ahh race07, gtr evo, gtr2 . Phenominal games literally the best racing ive ever experienced in touring cars and minis on gtr evolution . I enjoy acc now on direct drive as apposed to back then on g25 but those races just cannot be replicated for me .
Thank you so much for your video! I totaly support what you just have said in the video! I totaly agree that SIM racing is something could help people to unleash their passion to racing, effordable way to make their dream come true. It has been a case for me as well. I've recognised SIM racing for myself just few months ago and I trully belive it will help me to keep moving forward. Please continue creating an amazing content, sharing your thoughts - you have got your subsribers with you along the way. Let's continue building a strong community of people passioned about racing and help each other navigating through challenging times. Thank you again and hope to see more inspirational content you would create for us in the future!
Great video. All of your points are well thought out and well stated. I have been really enjoying AMS2, and the recent IMSA announcement has me pretty happy. Overall, there is a sim for all types, and that is something we can celebrate. Now heres hoping this trend continues. :)
AMS2 was the best thing I found at the end of last year. I have to thank Forza for reigniting my interest in the genre, having fallen out for 5-6 years. Its catastrophic failure pointed me to the absolute magic that is a full direct drive setup and all of the magic contained in just AC, ACC, AMS2, and iRacing.
I wonder how many people have gone down the same route; it seems like many people in the past 3-4 months have followed a similar route.
That video is some kind of love letter to Sim Racing and deserves way more views.
Great video! I definitely agree. We are spoiled with options now.
I like these videos that just focus on the positive once in a while. Excellent!
Good luck with the new channel! I've been doing a big mix of gaming content on my current channel, and it feels like I've never "broken through the algorithm" so far, so I recently made an exploratory motorsports-specific channel to see if sticking with a consistent topic and using only G-rated language helps. Hopefully it works out for both of us.
I'm pretty new to sim racing, and you were one of the first channels I checked out. Got a Logitech G920 a while back, it collected dust for two years and I finally found the time to set it up, and I was floored. I'm 31 and I don't drive, got the wheel to maybe see if cars can click for my sperg brain if I mixed them with video games, and it worked. Assetto Corsa Shutoko Revival Mod laps changed my brain wiring fast, and now I'm over 50 hours into Gran Turismo 7(controller-only, sadly) and I feel like I've been totally car-pilled. Went from zero interest to watching car documentaries and streamers all the time. Upgraded to a Cammus C5 a couple months back and I plan to get the Simagic P1000 pedals with two or three haptic motors and hydraulics on throttle if I get my annual bonus in May. Starting a little racing league, hanging out with friends while they work on their modded cars IRL, built an aluminum cockpit from RigMetal - my hobby time is dramatically changed, and it's all so stimulating!
Endurance racing is in the new golden era and sims, not just racing sims are definitely in their golden era as well. I don’t think people outside of iRacing and people who actually race cars realize just how big of a deal the tempest system is. It’s no longer just race the dry line but slower and more carefully because grip was reduced by 50% like basically every other sim. It should basically change how rain is implemented in anything wise wanting to be referred to as a race sim
Completely agree, and I am quite positive it won't fall into decline anytime soon neither!
If anything, it would be even more popular. Because soon ICE cars will get banned and maybe people can only enjoy ICE cars in simracing
What I think about simracing's state is that yes, we're in such good times. It doesn't matter the way you approach simracing games (whether you play for fun, for glory or self-improvement), the way you play (wheel or controller, it should only matter what you can afford and whatever way you enjoy this hobby), even the amount of platforms you can play them (consoles or PC) are as affordable, as diverse and accessible as we've dreamt of for years... if you so did it. To sum up, I also hope that in the years to come, simracing keeps that momentum for as long as possible
Having been sim-racing since before sim-racing was a thing, I'd agree...but...Its always been the golden age of sim-racing. Yes, What we have now is stunning, but so was The RF1 era, The era of GP4 VS F1C, The GTR mods for the ISI platforms, Rally Championship 2000 and the Colin Mcrae games. Hell, even Pit Stop 2, The original Need for Speed, Indy 500...Its been an upwards trajectory, and every era has been golden. Sure, each era has had its disappointments, but you cant have the good without the bad.
You're completely right on this one.
And it's not only about games and hardware, but it's about the community as well. Today, we have tons of discord channels and racing leagues for several titles that host incredible championships and single events like endurances. You can meet very good people there. Many people are working on and sharing setups and mods. There are a ton of good youtube/twitch channels and streamers.
In the future, we're going to look at the past with great saudade.
I think the reason why not so many people race the other classes in ACC is just that they are locked behind some expensive DLCs and not everybody (including myself) is willing to pay that much money for them, although they may be fun. Another reason is that not many people race these classes so you don´t have a reason to buy these DLCs.
Incredible how sim racing has come on in just a few years. Great video
Best time in sim racing. We got iracing, ac, acc, gt7 and le mans ultimate and ets2
Add beamng as well 😊
not currently, I think it is coming in the near future. The missing cog in wheel is increased competition. No manufacturer would be able to sell a red button for a hundred dollars in the golden age
And it's only getting better and better
A Playseat Challenge + G923 + Quest 3 is all you really need to get 80% of the way there. And all this can be had for
You're spot on mate! There is virtually a sim for everyone, and the technology has made it look and feel amazing. And with AMS2 signing with IMSA, it'll be even better! Great opinions, RC!
simracing golden age is when all of the games and wheel manuelfactors are on consoles, we are now in the gold rush age
Definitely agree!
To be honest, I have mixed feelings about this. Yes, we have a good variety of sim's these days, but the same could be said for mid to late 2000's. Back then you had F1 Challenge for F1, GTR2 for GT's, Race 07 for touring cars, NR2003 for NASCAR and rFactor for pretty much anything you might have wanted, and that's only when it comes to PC. And the big thing for pretty much all these sim's was that you could pretty easily mod all of them (which is not really something you could say about modern sim's). Yes, the situation got a little worse in the early - mid 2010's when all those sim's where starting to get outdated and there wasn't anything really new on the horizon (rFactor 2 got it's beta in 2012, AC started it's early access in 2013 and obviously both took quite a while to develop), but even then those older games were stil used quite a bit.
As for the hardware, yes, we have all these new DD's and what not, and they are getting cheaper and cheaper (which is good), but overall, the barrier of entry when it comes to sim racing gear has risen quite a bit. Just 12 years ago I managed to buy Logitech DFGT for less then 100$, and it was a really good wheel for that price point. Anything entry level these days will cost you double that. And with the cost of living these days even this could be too much for some people.
Are we being spoiled these days? Absolutely. But I wouldn't call this the golden age of simracing, cause 15 years ago the situation wasn't really that bad either. It's just that the simracing got a lot more popular these days, and everyone is trying to cash in on it.
The biggest improvement I’d like to see is a more seamless UI and setup process on PC, similar to console titles or the steam deck.
I can plug my Fanatec wheel into the PS5 and everything is logically mapped and it just works. Same for the VR, you can even take it off mid race and everything just works.
Reducing the amount of friction on PC would collectively saves hundreds of hours for all players.
Competition is a good thing
I hear nothing but straight FACTS
I call it Sims Racings Second Renaissance
Are we going to be run over by machine city or something
I agree, what a great time for sim racing
Now if we could just get a good set of handlebar and foot controls for the Motorcycle, snowmobile, jetski and ATV games we would be all set.
oh shit your starting a normal gaming channel. Im actually very intrigued to hear a sim racer talk about normal games. Most of them seem so out of touch when it comes to "gaming culture". I know broadbent plays games and understands things like qol, and having fun, not trying to be to realistic and that def comes through in his car videos but this just always has intrigued me.
Golden age... May be. But what step of golden age ? Beginning, middle, end... ? I think we are at the beginning. The market has grown a lot since last few years, and will keep growing. There will some dying brands in the middle of the story, but the next years are exciting. What innovations will come? More active pedal offers? More dynamic systems? Cheaper 57 ultra wide ? Cheaper and stronger DD?
Finally!! Some serious you tube sim content.
We are indeed living in a good era.
The only thing that this brings is……sub par you tube content by some who can do more damage to the genre then help…
After the Fighting game golden age now the simracing golden age
Hope its only going upwards
SimRacing is the only genre that get better over the years but keep the foundation and feel of older SimRacing games like GTR2, GT Legends etc. Because SimRacing games are for enthusiast and Nerds. Gaming was ones a hobby for nerds. Games where build for nerds. 30 years ago you get a strange look when you say you are into videogames or "worst" Pc-Gaming. But then gaming grows into the mainstream and many AAA games today are build for a mainstream audiance. But not SimRacing. SimRacing was, is and will always be something only enthusiast and Nerds can enjoy and love.
And thats the reason why you don´t have to look back as a SimRacer to find a game you enjoy and love more than modern games. Because you can play modern games made for nerds.
racing has been split between 2 categories, SIM racers and ARCADE racers. Both are drastically different.
nah
Nope, There was a time before the split, It only happened as hardware and software capabilities advanced, and even now the grey area between the two is so dense that its near impossible to say where the split is as either categories can share elements of the other. This discussion on arcade vs sim is also compounded by the ignorance of the user in regards to what is authentic seeing as pretty much no one has relevant real world experience to base their assessment on.
Naah
@@Metla666 So forza is realistic by your standards?
@@kaizer2k2 And there we go, evidence that what I said was ignored for the sake of a black and white line.
For me games like AMS1&2 & Project Cars 1&2 change the sim game for me as for as they are easy to pick up and play and and are not just another arcade sim racing title like Forza Motorsports, they also have very decent VR support as VR has been a huge gamer changer for sim racing, currently I'm waiting on the new official NASCAR game from the team over at iRacing that will hit next year as I want to see if they will bring over the same physics from iRacing to this new standalone game as currently most the modern NASCAR games have been very simcade rather than being a full sim racing title and not to mention NASCAR 21 was a total disgrace of game and glad NASCAR pulled the licence from Motorsport Games to allow iRacing to pick it up and take over.
Its better than it was before, but its sooo far from golden age... Game and gear devs have SO MUCH MORE to show
Racing games was more popular in 2009-2011 then it died to gta and horizon I think some stats exist like sales of gt5 forza3/4 etc more maybe on pc now than ever but it’s just the elite on pc kaz talks about this recently saying the driving force wheel was peak of sim racing he prob has sales data from Logitech
Basically sim racing needs a GTARP mode and maybe F1 will :0
Now think where this is going. Oneday not too distant visuals 100% , physics 100%, everything just perfect and replicates real life so well there’s no point to progress. A.I maybe could give us the perfect sim experience oneday, a few weeks before they declare war on mankind.
Adding to that is high quality VR headsets with full FOV and PC specs that are affordable yet can handle the most demanding VR resolutions and Sim graphics
More like, "We are living in a simulation" 🏎
Unless you like slower cars, you won't race on GT4, I think that would be nice that to access GT3 you have to have race on GT4 cars. Maybe on a private league?
Golden age was in 2020 with Covid lock downs
Maybe we are at an all time high for sim racing, however arcade racing games are at the lowest they have ever been
Sim racing has definitely gotten a lot better over the years, and we've been having a decent streak, but I would absolutely argue we are far from a "Golden Age". The barrier of entry is still a little bit too high, progression based modes as well as dedicated single player content has been seriously lacking as of late which acts as an entry point for a lot of racers, online play has been a mess with a lot of these games and with some of these being so heavily tied to online servers means we will eventually lose access to a lot of these games we've paid for and poured money into, and mod support for these games are either overly complicated at best and completely absent at worst. For a lot of these games, there is no future for them when they lose support, and the underlying issues they have are too vast to ignore. Sure there is a lot good with these games, especially with how well they support the more hardcore audience, but I would never call this a "golden age", that is not what this is. Maybe with AC2 and future releases we will see a lot of these issues being resolved, maybe even through community support, but until then simracing is simply in a good place with active growth. No more, no less.
I don't understand why the GT3 class gets so much hate. It's fun. Do what is fun.
I would have to disagree on this one. There is no sim racing game that has everything needed to simulate a perfect racing weekend. For example many games are missing rain, rarely any game has a safety car or pit crew, a lot of them don't have any track evolution, there is no good f1 sim racing game, a lot of them have a very basic damage model, there isn't any sim with a comprehensive single player experience... and the list goes on.
While I do enjoy sim racing with the current gen of sim racing games, it is not realistic to call this golden age. But I also don't believe that older games are better than the current gen. I think the best is yet to come.
exactly what i was thinking. While theres so many things to apppreciate that we have now, racing is such a massive and expansive sport with so much variety. theres still SO much more to come
@@lincoln2230 not to mention that there is no single sim racing game that has everything. One might have cars you want, but it doesn't have a day/night cycle, another one might have those cars, but its physics is not that good.
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It goes beyond the racing genre and out to all driving genres I'd say.
I would add that there is now greater innovation appearing in hardware too.
Great time to be doing this.
I mean ai had a gtdf when gt5 was out.
Found it meh.
Got a csl dd late last year, after getting a g29 on black friday, and now im right into sim racing!
So yeah I do think its the golden age.
Because ite bringing people back, who were on the fence about sim racing last time we tried it out
The games are better than even, I agree. The players on the other side, I'm not sure.
I really think people just wanna continue to justify bad sims to then justify all the money they spent on their rig. I’ve spent more than most but I can be honest.
We have 1 sim with actual worthwhile multiplayer racing. 1. How is that the golden age. I went through the shit process of getting ranked in LFM for ACC. Know how many people signed up to the races last night ? 4 people in one race. Zero in all others.
We have iracing. That’s it. That you can load up and get into races that work with actual people in them and actual progression.
Simracing isnt just multiplayer, nor having no multiplayer makes it a bad sim. LFM has no population issues. unless you are talking US-AU times. During European times it has multiple splits, enduro racing has multiple splits, and this is a free service.
All other sims have been creating competitive services as well free of charge.
A few years ago there was iracing and thats it. Spoiled for choice now.
@@randomcallsign Well I just completely disagree. RF2 has one race in beginner and that’s once an hour. Good luck getting rating up. AMS2 has zero MP. Le Mans is a complete mess so far. This is what I mean. All of those are facts. It’s ok to say yeah there is just about nothing with serious competitive MP. And to act like that’s not important is insane lol. No one on earth races on tracks against no one. That isn’t what racing is. I don’t get why people have to constantly convince themselves otherwise. And what I said about LFM is a fact. I’m sure you can go look for yourself. If it’s 4 people at 7pm on a Saturday in the USA it’s as dead as dead can get.
LFM has 130 teams signed up for the ACC enduro race alone that is happening right now. The next sprint race has 80. Everyone is waiting for nords as well.
On AC front, mazda cup has 45. The twice weekly green hell generally go up to 210 which is the max of the service.
It maybe because sportscar racing isnt that popular in the US. I always have someone to race with in this free service in the hours that I play, generally EU mornings which is not even primetime.
A few years ago there was iracing and thats it.
Im hoping Assetto Corsa 2 is a banger
A year ago you made a video saying sim racing was stagnant and not growing due to the high entry cost and the non-user friendly games. I'm glad things are looking better now.
I've seen a lot of new sim racing streamers over the past year including females as well.
We need better single player sim racing games. F1 isnt a sim but the only game that has a "good" career mode.
First?
yes :D
It is a golden age... if you like GT3. If you don't.. it's the dark ages. Almost all of the major relevant titles are a decade old...the ones that aren't...are GT3.
It is indeed a hardware golden age though. There is top quality gear available out there that we could only dream of 10 years ago. I mean Moza just released a freakin truck wheel. Crazy. But the lack of quality software makes me not want to invest in any new gear at all.
Yeah, but "Not Sim" games are TRASH nowadays, Thank You Sim Racing Guys, you ruined arcades