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What was your first wheel? Also let me know about the mic and subscribe :D
Csl dd 😅
Thats quite a big leap :D
Podium DD1
TMX, G920, TX, TS-XW, CSL DD PRO
G27. Still have it, my son uses it after 6 years of me using it, it's a tank, lol. I moved up to the G923 after I tried using the much vaunted Thrustmaster 300RS, had to send the base back in twice in a year due to the power supplies overheating. Never, ever again. I love that I could mod the G923 with a larger steering wheel for under $50US including the wheel and metal adapter (I don't advise the 3D printed adapters, they aren't strong enough to handle much torque before imploding). I don't see me leaving Logitech any time soon, I like my wheels to last so I don't have to waste money rebuying all the time.
I went from Quickshot Aviator back in the very very old days to Logitech Momo, G25, G27 then to T500RS which I'm still running a decade later with a few mods and its still going strong. In fairness if we were only allowed to have a wheelbase to match our skills I'd be stuck using the lid of a paint can with a stick through the middle of it.
lmao!!! i started out on a g29, and jumped up to a tgt2, but paint can lid skills are way above my pay grade!
@@jn1211 Its ok. We have made colours, textures and custom made sticks of different lengths to suit everyones skill level.
I went from Logitech driving force (the one before DFGT but I did get that for free) on ps3 to G29 on Ps4 and now T300 with load cells on PC.
So glad I went from G20 gears to belt driven the G20 had good pedals but high speed wheel vibration did little more than make noise going down the straight you cant feel anything.
Is there any point in going from T300 to T500? I don't know what the difference is between them.
@@thedave7760 if I recall the t500 is like the ts xw so it’s not that much of an upgrade from the t300 tbh. I think you’d be better off just saving up for DD wheel since the t300 is like one of the best entry level wheels and if you’ve been using it for a long time then you won’t notice much of an upgrade to a mid tier wheel so it’s best to just save up for something top shelf.
I went from G25, G27, G29, and finally G Pro Wheel. I believe G29 is very good as the first wheel. I loved all of them!
why did you buy 3 entry level wheels
How about g920? In my country it's as expensive as g290 i mean 30 dollar difference
@@GamingPigSFS the G29/G920 are almost identical except G29 is PS4 button layout and G920 is xbox
@@GamingPigSFS g920 us the xbox version of g29
g923 however is the next level of g29/g920
the logitech pro wheel is just a overpriced logitech racing wheel but it is good if you want it
but moza or other brands have a better option for direct drive wheel
@@GamingPigSFS The G90 and G29 are the exact same thing with a different platform. One's designed for Playstation the others designed for XBox but both work on PC.
my first budget wheel was a g29 at $199.99 on sale, but one week later I returned it since my budget wheel turned out to be a r5 bundle for $407.96. It got put on clearance the same day I wanted to pick up a r9+cs wheel+srp pedals at microcenter. Someone came to return their r5 bundle for a r9, I decided r5 at that price is best bang for buck I can possibly find. Got the brake performance kit ordered, so glad I didnt get a r9 set which would have cost around $1k after tax AND I would have had to buy a rig for loadcell pedals. Desk gaming on r5 is plenty enough till I can get the space for a dedicated rig.
You call $200 “budget”??
@@AviationTribeextremely budget in comparison to other things in sim racing
My first one was the G29. Not a bad wheel but I went through 2 in 30 months. The gears kept stripping out. I think that my case was rare as a lot of my friends that have this wheel have had no problems. I then got a T300. The pedals are crap but the wheel is great. Now don't confuse this with the T300RS as mine came with the 2 pedal set and not the 3 pedal set. I liked the G29 pedals so I got myself a adapter so that I could use them with my T300. That was 10 years ago and I ust had my first problem with the T300. i have lost feed back. But the great thing about Thrust master is that you don't have to replace everything. My new base will be here in 2 days.
I didn't want to cheap out on a gear driven wheel so I spend a lot more on a T300RS GT as my first wheel. I love it and I feel it will last me a long time.
I made that mistake. Started with a G920 and it was soo bad. T300 was a massive upgrade for not much more money. I then recently got a Moza R5 and its like a completely different thing again. Absolutely brilliant piece of kit
@@ofrenic same bro, i got a g920 thinking it was so good then idk why something inside it just feel lose and feels like its going to break at any time, i ended up selling it and recently got the urge of sim racing again, going with a thurstmaster this time!
I said the same thing. Months later I find myself playing on a dd pro.
well belt ddriven tend to break faster than gear driven so.. good luck.
@@ClavinZKL Jimmy Broadbent had his for over 10 years so it's fine mate. I wouldn't choose an inferior gear driven wheel just for the guarantee that it won't break.
My first wheel was the G27 about 13 years ago playing GT5. Loved it!!
After a 10 break Im looking to get back into sim racing. Fanatec just lowered the price for the DD1 bundle to 499 Euro, PC only just as the Moza 5. But the Moza 5 is $599 plus 20 percent VAT in Europe so $720 which is much more than the Fanatec. So leaning to get the Fanatec
DD1 for 500?
I'll guess you mean the CSL DD
But Fanatec is a great choice even If it has some downsides...
Quick Tipp get the Fanalab Software If you Play on PC to max out the functionality of your Fanatec gear!
Got into sim racing again this weekend, after almost 15 years of not owning a racing wheel!
I had a logitech at that time, if I recall correctly. It was noisy, you could feel the gears and the force feedback was so raw and imprecise!
Other times I guess!
After consuming hours of videos of the new products and technology I made a choice.
Coming from a Seat Ibiza Cupra TDI, which regrettably sold 😢 due to pandemic and other personal matters, I don't have a car since I moved to London.
The Cupra was a quite peppery citycar, with its 160hp and 330nm.
Car aside, as I miss DRIVING and dont want spend money maintaining a car again, I decided to buy something more high quality and higher performance than low tier racing wheels.
I was going for the thrustmaster t gr 2. Although the price is 650£ and it's still a belt driven product with lot of plastic.
Buying separately the base and wheel and load cell pedals would have costed me even more than that.
Then discovered moza r5 bundle.
After getting educated about DD bases and brands, I decided to pull the trigger!
Went for the r5 and I think compared to 15 years ago this will be an incredible upgrade for me.
Moza paired with Oculus Rift S... ❤
I tried to play with Oculus and keyboard...getting average result practicing, but damn, it's like driving on wheels without tires with keyboard on Dirt Rally!😂
Waiting for the Moza to be delivered this week!
My first wheel was a T150 Pro, which did the job nicely. My only complaint was the button location on the hub, making them mostly useless for games like GTS/GT7, although still usable for ACC for ignition and starter. The T150 is a great bargain and perfect for someone sticking their toe in water of simracing on PS4/5 or PC.
I moved over to a T248 and really like it. Tons of buttons, much better pedals, and overall better FFB than the T150. As a mostly casual simracer, I felt like I could stay on this platform indefinitely. The only thing I've done to upgrade with the T248 was to get the TLCM pedals, just to have the consistency that load cells give you. But it's worth saying that the T248's pedals are very, very good and the spring combinations can give you exactly the resistance you need for consistent braking. That said, the T248 is an overall great platform for the casual simracer. Once you get a feel for the encoders, you'll have nearly limitless control over your car without having to use the clunky on-scree menus of GT7 and ACC while you're trying to drive. It's not as convenient as the TGT in GT7, but it's pretty close and definitely worth it for the price. The only major complaint I really have is that the LED tachometer often flashes for upshift a tick or two before the in-game tach starts flashing for upshift, making it somewhat unreliable for cars that really need to be revved out. But having the LED display is really quite useful if you're trying to line up your wheel with the in-game dash for better immersion.
However, with the announcement of the T818, I'm leaning towards getting it and finally getting into a direct drive. So, that'll bust the $400 budget, but someone will get to buy my T248 for less than retail!
If u already have the T150 pro why did u blow so much money on the 248 when u could have just got the t300 base and connected your T150 pedals and wheel to it
@@racdude01 it was more about the buttons. The T248 button layout and the encoders are really useful. If you're making lots of adjustments throughout a race, having those encoders is almost a cheat code. Also, the T248 is just a better wheel overall than the T150. Getting one on sale and selling the T150 only put me out about $100, so it was a no-brainer.
My first wheel was a T150 with a 3 pedal set. It was a great entry set. I have a DD Pro now with load cell pedal on a sim lab cock pit. I would recommend the T150 Pro. Then if u get really into sim racing go with a direct drive. It’s unbelievable how much better then they are over gear driven
I got the g29 gear driven and I couldn't stand it, it's been sitting for a few years now, I'm debating on either the moza r9 with their load cell pedals and an e brake or the new logitech DD with their load cell pedals.
I highly recommend the Moza r5. But if you buy the brake pedal upgrade you will need a mount to keep it stable.
They don't have a bundle discount if I can pay a little more and go load cell, not saying they should delete that bundle as it's good for many people, just saying if someone is willing to throw away 100 more € to get a more realistic toy he won't find a choice on their website other than buying the equipment separately which will probably be 500 € more or something.
I just got my first wheel, I got a barely used G29 with Shifter and GT Omega Stand which is a massive step forward for me, I did my first lap on ACC today and knocked 3 seconds off my pad time.
My first ffb wheel was a T150,was ok,but pedals not great.Just upgraded to T300,difference is night and day.Super quiet,and nearly double the ffb of T150.Big difference in build quality,feels more premium.If looking for your 1st buy my advice is wait for a deal or keep saving bit more,T300 is best buy in this price range.
This is the one. T300 is the best beginner wheel if it is affordable
My first setup was a Logitech Driving Force GT I scored for $20, and T3PA pedals with USB adapter for $100, and a wheel stand for $65. This was super cheap at the time as the g920/G29 had just released so the deals you can find now didn't exist for even the g27. Later on I added an eBay 7+R shifter for $70 and some 3d printed doo dads to use the built in sequential shifter as a handbrake and full size paddle shifters. My friend still races with me on that exact setup today and it's running beautifully. Good ole 2007 tech holding up amazingly today. I still use it when I go to his house too and I honestly like the stronger torque and detail a lot more than the G29/920 despite not spinning as smoothly. I use a Thrustmaster TX full cockpit 50" TV setup now it's great. I'll be upgrading to DD soon once compatibility gets to be more universal. We're gaining compatibility rapidly so it may be sooner than later
All these prices for these wheels are wrong please do an updated video rs t300 is almost 500
I literally just got a G29 with pedals and shifter, along with a fgt lite chair for $250.(Offer up) I've been in heaven this week.
Love my G29 but with the Thrustmaster T-LCM pedals and the TH8A shifter makes it pretty pretty good.
does the g29 work with thrustmaster shifter? just asking
@@dabanstar21 only on PC
As you have to Connect it seperately
In my opinion the best emtry point on budget, 100% 0 regret is the T150 if you have PC/PS and it's counterpart TMX for PC/Xbox, easily foundable at 150$ in second market, and some days ago i literally found it for 100chf with pro pedals
What about ps5? Same as Xbox?
@@clips7701you want the T150. Awesome wheel for the second hand price!
I went from a g29 with h shifter to r5 with brake performance kit, hgp shifter and hbp handbrake last month. The change is really nice. It also got me into rig building as now I am assembling my own 4080 rig.
I first had the t150, then I went for the g29 for the clutch+stick. The t150 had discrete positions and it always came between me and immersion, since no car steers like this, but the ffb was solid and quite silent! The g29 on the other hand feels more life-like due to the leather, has more buttons, but man is the ffb loud. It’s like nailing stuff to walls 😂 ah, also, the g29 has a habbit to slightly squeak near center position (happened to me with 2 already) and the ffb seems to have a genuine dead-zone in the center, I’d approximate the first 5 degrees on each direction. Both are great, I honestly find myself missing the t150 despite selling it in 2018!
very odd upgrade. the t150 is definitely superior in ffb altough i think a little slower. a logical uograde would have been a t300 imo
@@phrg8332 yes, but if you factor in pricing and the fact that I bought both on some crazy discounts, I’ve got the g29 for $200, the shifter for $30 and I sold the t150 for $140. The t300 was around $360 at the time, so the g29 was a no-brainer. I still have it and see no point in upgrading, I only have time to use it from time to time and then I mainly play ets2 to not wake everyone up 😀 regarding the move being an upgrade or not, it was definitely an upgrade due to all I’ve said above: I prefer the belt-driven ffb of the t150, but the g29 is better in every other way, plus that it has the shifter and 3rd pedal, more buttons (useful for ets2 at least), etc
@@phrg8332Yea I totally agree I had a G29 which kicked the bucket I brought the 150pro for $150 and absolutely no comparison the T150 pro is heaps better I think this guy went backwards in upgraded
@@74aussieguyyeah, agreed on that, they definitely went backwards. Logitech feels notchy compared to TM, maybe that's just me, I feel belt/hybrid drive is definitely smoother than gear driven, not to mention less noisy.
Gear Drive < Hybrid < Belt Drive < Direct Drive.
Only value Logitech adds is the 3 pedal set and H pattern shifter at much lower prices bundled, compared to Thrustmaster's offerings. However same holds true for quality there... You get what you pay for. Logitech's shifter is a children's toy compared to Thrustmaster's. Assuming we're staying within the realm of "entry level" gear.
No point in spending 1000s of dollars to only find out it's not really for you, might be fun either way, but does a casual racer really need that Fanatec DD?
@@TH3_T3RM1N4T0R Yes spot on mate you definitely hit the mark with casual racers like myself although when i do I try my hardest an love every bit of it the proof between the two wheels for me was in project cars 2 being an Aussie my favourite track is Bathurst in the V8 supercars, the Logitech I was hitting 1:59:5s as soon as I got the Thrustmaster I bettered it a full second and with the feel of it not only faster but the whole driving experience is just far better in my opinion so with that time I broke into to the top 30 I'm sure I can get within the top 15 possibly 10 as I've only started to race again now that's pretty good for $150 wheel you definitely don't need to spend huge money to have a great experience and be fast as well I couldn't be happier with what I have for what I paid all the best mate I hope you continue to get the best out of yours
I got a T248 but found it to be too grainy and not as fast as I wanted. Although the force feedback was pretty good, I changed to a Moza R5 with the brake upgrade and god, the difference is just insane. So much more refined and detailed, you can feel everything on the road. While the T248 is a good wheel for the price and a good starter wheel, it'll make you want more. The T300Rs is probably the best beginner wheel for people wanting to explore the sim world, but if you can afford it, you wont regret going to a Direct drive right away!
Checking out the Moza R5 now!
£170 for a brand new G29 in a sale here. I’m sure there are far better wheels out there, and even the T150 I used for a few months before it died was more powerful in the feedback, but it’s comfortable, smooth, the pedals are surprisingly competent and the flappy paddle shifters are pleasantly solid.
It’s definitely an ideal starting point, given how many of these get sold to people who decide after a few weeks that they can’t handle a massive setup taking space, it’s too much hassle to set up, or get bored of Gran Turismo. If it’s still getting heavy use in a year or two I might invest in a DD or whatever, but that’s too much of a risk as a way back in to the hobby.
The Mic 🎙️ sounds ok 👍🏻. I a
M a newbie to Sim racing and keen to buy my first setup Wheel & pedals. Just doing my research. Thanks for creating this video. New subscriber here. Cheers from Western Australia 🇦🇺👍🏻
Welcome aboard!
First of all, the sound was good on the video...
First wheel was the G25 and I couldn't break it. I had it for about 20 years up until this past spring when I moved on to the Fanatec CSL DD. I gave the G25 to someone starting out.
Had a brand new g920 for about a month, tried a Thrustmaster TX (Xbox version of the T300) and I did not wanna go back... sold my g920 and got the tx eith the leather rim, the shifter and the tlcm pedals and I never looked back
First wheel I got was a G923, and I really disliked how loud it was. It rattled like crazy, and the FFB wasn't the best. And a little over half a year later it just stopped working entirely, which happened after a day of playing FH5. It worked fine the day before, and the next day it just wouldn't calibrate, and none of my inputs registered. I don't know if I just got a bad example, or I pushed it too hard when playing FH5.
So I brought it back to the retailer, and they gave me a paper that gave me 3 choices: Replace my broken G923 with a new one, replace it with a similar product, or have my money returned. Since I had been eyeing the T300RS GT, I decided to have my money returned so I could buy that wheel instead (the retailer I bought my G923 from didn't offer them). I have no regrets with my purchase, as this one just feels so much nicer to drive with. If there's 1 thing I definitely miss, it's the Logitech's load cell brake pedal. Back then I did not appreciate just how useful it is to have a heavier brake pedal as it made it easier to not brake too hard. Sure, the mod that came with the pedals does help, but it takes some getting used to.
Overall, if you have like a 400 euro budget, I definitely recommend the T300RS (or TX for Xbox), as it's such a good system for the price, and works well as a long-term option due to (aftermarket) mods.
Inflation is killing me. Can’t find any of these for the price mentioned, seemed to have gone up 60-120 bucks
Try to avoid second hand wheels. I have heard that the cogwheels inside the wheel wear out as it is being used for a long time, which may likely be the condition on second hand equipments. If you are going to purchase one, ask about the condition and specific part of the device and research about this case on the internet more before you get one.
The T300RS is the bomb! I had a G29 and now I've been using a T300RS (just hate that it overheats). It's awesome (pre-DD)
The T300RS used has the best bang for buck atm
If you have/want to buy new and DD get the Fanatec CSL bundle for 399€
Driving Force GT... 2010... about U$100 (new). Still using it with pretty decent results, specially with AMS2 and ACC
Never had a wheel, but now that im a bit older i thought i'll give it a shoot. Ordered a moza r9, crp pedals and cs wheel.
Trusthmaster is a G
That means logitech is a 920
overpriced af
like who would pay this much money for a fucking wheel
@@vydrhnutizubyeople buy them because they're reliable
Okay, what’s the thrustmaster t18, I look it up and can’t find anything of the sort, pls help me
I did the Logitech g29, then recently got the gtomega stand and a handbrake. It’s a solid setup for the handful of hours I play a week
the best choice is the thrustmaster t150/tmx as a entry point wheel. It has decent FFB, 1080 degrees of rotation and pedals that can be hard mounted. Im gonna buy it this month
As a PC gamer, I went for the TMX because I don't like the look of the blue rubber grips on the T150.
That said its 900° rotation, as opposed to the 1080° of the T150, but that's not as significant as you'll rarely use it at its full lock, the software has different degree of soft lock you can apply, and it is a fantastic value proposition, the force feedback is a lot stronger than you'd expect, keeping in mind that setting it too high will wear it out sooner and oversaturates the feedback making it muddy. Set it anywhere between 60-80% of power through the software, and you'll definitely enjoy it.
Do wear some gloves as the rubber grips can react to sweat and become snotty/decompose.
I have Logitech G25 and G29, and fanatec csl elite and csl dd. Both Logitech are great wheels, G25 is slow compared to G29, G25 has included H shifter that can be set to be sequentional. G 29 is much faster than G29. Pedals on both logitech are exellent. Fanatec wheels are just another level that give you more confidence and pleasure , but Logitech wheels do the job.
got a full fanatec setup for 450 just take some time on second hand its worth it. Got a CSW V2.5 formula carbon and csl elite pedals
just got my g920, its so awesome and i love it, if your just a beginner, like me, I would 100 PERCENT recommend.
had a T150 the wheel went loose and even after sending it in for repair it was stil not working right. now I have a G29, better wheels and pedals.
I got my t300 rs gt for 240€ in the amazon warehouse it just had a small scratch in the front but works fine i am really happy with it
Instead of ?€
@@FlameBot 300€
@@thwbubi9687 nice
Bought a second hand g29 with stand for £170 just to see if I enjoyed sim racing. Once I decided it was for me I upgraded to a new t300rs gt. Much better wheel and would fully recommend it for the price!
got t300rs for test, and looks like I will choose Moza wheel. Next year will be released truck wheel 🎉
I recently got the Logitech G29 for playing GT7 on PS5 to replace an old Logitech wheel that was going on near two decades but was not compatible anymore. I looked to get the Thrustmaster T300RS GT but they are out of stock most places (discontinued?) and those that had them where charging double the retail for it, so that was a no go. For now I figure the G29 is good enough while I improve my skills and then down the road I could possibly justify a direct-drive wheel with load-cell pedals..
My first sim racing rig I bought Next Level GT-Simulator cockpit, Fanatec CSL DD 8nm, Fanatec v1.5 shifter, and Fanatec pressure cell pedals. Still waiting for parts but very excited to join the community.
Your new microphone sounds really good
So I got my first sim wheel a week ago. Used off of Facebook. Logitech g920 with the shifter and a stand for 150. Had issues "out of the box" aka wasnt as plug and play for me as many said it is. I had to do much trouble shooting and solving software issues with GHub. Certain games just felt like dog water like Asseto corsa (fixed this issue with an LUT) other games with less customizability like FH5 I still experience annoyances like the (jitters) caused by there "driving force" gimmick. Its an amazing wheel and for the price i got it at its hard to not recommend if found for a good deal and on a bundle assuming all is functional. Now my only gripes i have found can be attributed to the gear driven mechanism. I knew what i was getting into for the most part but things like drifting. When transitioning you need to heavily assist the counter steer of the wheel. The FFB will do a decwnt job at the start. But any transition will be too fast for the gear driven mechanism to keep up. Things like a belt driven or DD wheel dont seem to have this issue as there input seems a bit more fluid and free moving. So if I can suggest anything. Try to find a t300 ,rs, gt ect. As far as I can tell the t300 is the best budget mid range wheel you can buy. At around 400 new thats about the same price as a g923 with better performance. So my next wheel will be a thrustmaster t300 I believe. Maybe in the next few months i will list my current logitech set on FB at a "SUPER" discount from what I payed "150". As I felt kinda bummed at first as I thought the wheel may have been broken due to the jittering that I had to manually fix through software for certain games. So we shall see. Cheers for the video great insight!
I also just picked one up (and just finished sorting out Ghub lol), how did you stop the jittering? I’m playing assetto corsa and beamng
Just watched your video from 2021 saying that T150 is better overall than G29. Do you still stand by this or does the G29 hold up over these years?
My first wheel was thrustmaster tmx pro and it was great!! I just ordered the t248 and i am excited to use it with a cockpit with my psvr2 in gran turismo7
Both wheels sucks bro… Why don’t you save 100-150$ and buy t300? I mean there is no reason you can’t save that in a month…
In North America you can get the PXN V10 for $280 USD pretty much anywhere now. Much MUCH better than the original $360 price tag and an incredible value for PC racing. Console support is still hit or miss sometimes. I use one as a spare wheel for guests along with my g920 as another spare. I prefer the PXN as an overall bundle. Pedals and shifter feel better than logitech, yes logi pedals are stiffer, but it's a completely un-natural feeling brake pedal. That rubber block is trash and without it it's a similar weight to a fully stiffened PXN brake pedal. Wheelbase only feels ever so slightly worse and is around the same size maybe a quarter inch smaller in diameter than the Logi setup.
My Personal recommandation is geting „old“ used Fanatec wheelbase. You get the a csw 2.5 for 200€ Right now. If you have luck u get a whole set for around 300€ and this is worth against TM or logitech
I got my first wheel a couple months ago and now im broke…😂 it is a Thrustmaster T248
got a g923 as a present great wheel clocked in over 200h in ac after that and 100 in dirt rally 2. pretty great wheel imo
G29. If you don’t count the Microsoft force feedback wheel from back in the day.. still use the g29 nearly everyday with iracing. It’s a solid starting spot, I’ve been using it 3 years no problem. I’d like an upgrade, but it does the job until that day comes, even if it’s a few years away. I like the look of that wheel with the DD motor built in. Under £300.
If you talk about Moza R5 (5 Nm) you cannot forget Fanatec CSL serie which has two cheaper options (at least in Europe): 5 and 8 Nm base wheel (400 and 500 $ or €) and Cammus (300 $ or €). For serious sim racers these three options are hard to beat alternatives to Thrustmaster T300 GT version (400 $ or €) mentioned in the video. A second hand G29 or G923 is 150-200 euros, which is a big compromise, as it is half the price for the new cheapest Fanatec ecosystem mentioned here. If the price of a used Logitech does not drop, I personally bet on the CSL from the Bavarian manufacturer.
Loved my G27, then up to the G29. For entry level, does what you need, and lasted me for years. Just upgraded to Asetek Invicta system.
Upgraded to what?
@buck tizzy Asetek Invicta system like I said.
My dad owns some old thrustmaster ferrari wheel. It still works without problems…
The main aspect I would consider for a wheel, is the ability to be mounted on a desk securely. I had a thrustmaster and the single screw mechanism failed, so my next wheel is a Logitech, which has a dual mounting mechanism.
Huh .. yaa you are down grading
@@jiaah7.-8 I had a Thrustmaster 458 Spider wheel with no FFB. Now have a G923 with FFB. Once that goes, I may go up to a direct drive wheel. e.g. Fanatech. Onwards and upwards
@@Kiwittgmail Logitechs mounting system sucks too.
@@LuisRivas-yb1gq 6 months I have had no failures
@@Kiwittgmail mine lasted like 50 seconds average fixed on the desk before flyign acroos the room XD
Will probably work better on a much thicker desk, but on mine it was just horrible
I bought on the used market a TS-PC for 130€ and the tx Ferrari bundle wheel and pedals for 30€, it's amazing, but this is technically my second wheel cuz i had bought a t80 off a friend of mine
I went all out and bought Moza r5 which is cheaper than t300 in my country. Can’t wait to break my hands in acc open lobby
My first wheel was a DFGT I got for 129.99 off eBay, a decent deal at the time, I then switched to a TX then a CSL DD. I am happy with my experience with sim racing tbh, have enjoyed all my wheels.
Moza still haven't hit the sweet spot in my opinion.
If only they had a budget bundle with the same R5 base and wheel but instead of the potentio-meter they threw three pedals with load cell maybe for a hundred dollars more.
Also another bundle where they add to what I mentioned the cheapest gear shift and handbrake for maybe 800, 900 or 999 €, those would sell like hot pancakes.
Im just getting into racing games and in general i want to start playing simulators. For me id say how the steering wheels texture feels, and how smooth it is to drive i guess overall pretty responsive
A friend of mine sold me his less than 6 months used g923 (almost factory new) with shifter and pedals after he bought another wheel for 250€
I been using g29 for my pc and ps5 had my wheel for just over a year loving the wheel i do want a direct wheel but very happy with g29 works great with casual driving and sim racing
Logitech DFGT was my second wheel, bought it 8 years ago for 50 euro, only had to replace the power brick during this whole time. Now I took the plunge and got myself a CSL DD, not impressed yet, but I had limited time and a lot of tweaks to do( a shame for something that expensive).
Best immersion for me is tripple screen though, I place it over the wheel…
Keep them coming! Solid stuff.
I would not recommend the PXN, it at firsts seems like a good wheel but then the pedals stop working properly. The input of the pedals is not the same as the actual position, even keeping your foot still will have a varied input. In truck simulator, I couldn’t sit at a red light for more than 5 seconds without the engine stalling due to the bad pedal sensor.
My first wheel was the Moza r5. I had some experiences with the Logitech series before and was not convinced at all those feel a lot more like toys to me while a direct drive system feels closer to the real deal. So in my opinion well worth the extra money!
I want the moza 5 but no support with ps5 its a shame great price but happy with g29 especially when I paid £200 1 year ago that included the shifter
What you want is a random cheap Amazon wheel from a company with a name like Hivivlova with a massive dead zone in the center and suction cups that slide around everywhere with a pedal set that's smaller then your left foot. Those also need a massive dead zone or it's no good! 😁
My first wheel whas the Fanatec CSR back in the Xbox 360 days and it whas awesome!
Then later i wanted to get back into sim racing and got a T 300RS ... That whas slightly worse than the CSR
Now im rocking Fanatec Podium DD1, ClubSport V3 Pedals, ClubSport SQ Shifter V1.5 and ClubSport Handbrake V1.5
Best choice ever and i dont think i will switch anything untill Fanatec releases Podium Pedals
Got a t150 for about $130ish open box at microcenter, absolutely love it
I'd recommend the Thrustmaster TMX wheel. (It's the T150 for PC/Xbox)
I have been using it for the last three years and i quite like it.
The drawback, the H-pattern shifter is not included but you get 3 pedals with the TMX-Pro.
If you are new I'd recommend this one.
It's about 200€/$ now.
If you are looking for your first wheel with a strong feeling you will want to upgrade, id buy second hand, there are plenty out there, i purchased a new wheel and just 3 months later i already want to change to a DD type, dont regret it as i got the G923 and its shown me how good the truforce is, but expected to lose money replacing it for the next version
Started on the g25 in 2007 or so. I got a T300 in 2015, a T248 in 2021 and now I have a Trun T88 direct drive.
T88 does not exist.. Also why would you buy T248 after T300? Maybe because you are LIAR?
I went with G920 as it was on a discount at the time and a good one. Where I live the price is rather inflated even without Mr. Covid, so I spent about 300 EUR with the shifter. I did not buy it to race though.I got it to play ETS2 and worked like a glove. I had some 2 weeks or so dugg into seting up the wheel for AC when realised that I was faster with the keyboard. I do not know, but I bet it has to do a lot with how *mobile* the pedals are, even if put to the wall. Some 2 years later I jumped onto a Thrustmaster TS-PC 488 Edition (~500EUR +-25), but had to search a bit for the pedals & hifter kit. It came about 60% of the wheel's price. The MOZAs look interesting compared to the nurfed Logitech and Thrustmaster DDs, but unreachable due to the manner of destribution.
If you start all over again but with a tight budget for a sim racing home.
What would tou buy?!
If I remember rightly my first wheel was The Sega Master System wheel in the 80s.
Is the Logitech G923 worth?
I bought my first wheel a few months ago. It is the Thrustmaster T248 and I love it. It is perfect for me
The T150 does NOT have ps3 bwc. It's advertised like it has and it's got the switch to put it in ps3 mode but it only works with the Gran Turismo games. All other ps3 wheel compatible games are unplayable. I got rid of it and got the G29 and this one does work with all ps3 racers.
Right now on Amazon where I am g29 $267 thrust master 300rsgt $699 maybe one day I'll upgrade definitely happy with the g29 though
yeah, nah, in slovenia people want same amount of money for used stuff as they paid for that same thing so many yrs ago, we're also a tiny country, so way less people that are into this, so the market is smaller because of that, i just received my csl dd p1 bundle today, but the dd is coming tomorrow, so im still waiting to put it all together :P
The T300 RS is over 457 in North America so I don't recommend as a budget steering wheel, the best one you could get out of the list is probably the PXN V10.
My First sim wheel was a thrustmaster t150 and i got it on Christmas 2019 and it was well worth it it did come with issues that we had to fix i used it for around 3500-4200 hours of play time so im most likely going to go with the thrustmaster t300gt
@Random Callsign.....Where did you get your Shoes from, they look comfortable for Sim Racing in ??
You’re wrong about the T128. It IS compatible for the PlayStation 4 and 5.
Even tho I don't have a wheel, I want a PXN V10, yes there are some faults here and there but it is a good starting point for a few years
did u get the v10?
Not going to waste time - BUY the Thrustmaster T300, just buy it! I havent even started the video and to anyone looking to get a decent wheel and pedal set, ignore all the bad reviews about the T300 wheel base overheating etc. I bought the T300RS GT wheel and pedal set 4 years ago and live in an area where summer peak over 40c and this wheel has never, not once ever faded or given me FFB issues. Anyone that recommends the Logitech equivalent with its archaic gear system has obviously never used a belt driven system.
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Those who had problems, pushed the ffb of the steering wheel to the maximum .....
What if im on xbox
@@luisonnaz125 The TX is compatible with Xbox / PC and the T300 is compatible with PlayStation / PC. On PC the wheels are almost identical except for the T300 supports 1080 deg of rotation and TX is only 900. Not that it matters much in SIM racing unless you are playing Truck sims or BeanMG, drifting or other employment sims..
The internals are identical as far as I know.
@@suhdud4646 Yeah but honestly im quite happy with the G920 I dont get the hate
@@luisonnaz125 There is no real hate...
Logitech has kept the same architecture on its steering wheel since its creation .... without really trying to improve the product, despite the fact that its community has continued to grow.
Initially, sim racing had not reached such proportions.
People played for the most part occasionally, without thinking of going elsewhere to see if the grass is better there.
But the mentalities have changed and the products too... now people really want to play, but with hardware offering more pleasure and feeling.
So they inform themselves here and there and discover new products and for many, it's a shock....
Not that a belt-based thrusmater is the grale, but the difference between the two is already all too apparent...difference even more pronounced, between "some" belt-driven flywheels and direct drive.
Now many put thrustmaster, in the same bag as logitech...
Take a t300 two weeks (the first day is already a surprise lol) then do the same with a DD ... you will understand.
The Logitech wheels are ok tho
I’ve heard a lot of people complaining about the entry level wheels. Personally I’ve used the thrustmaster tmx, ts xw, and t300rs out of the three of course the ts xw is the best but at that price point your probably better off saving up for a DD wheel. The t300 imo is the best entry level wheel it felt miles better than the tmx and not much different from the ts xw for about the same price except the ts xw is only the base while the t300rs you can get the bundle, pedals, and steering wheel for the same price. If your not sure about sim racing but wanna try it out definitely go for a t300 bundle, but if it’s something you know you’ll enjoy because you love cars or racing then it’s definitely worth saving up a little for like a Logitech DD pro bundle or some other DD wheel.
i went from a t150 to t300 and felt an huge difference
in smoothness, right? I like smooth FFB, something that not a lot of people mention as they focus on strength.
@jahshjahsh2002 yeah dude, i had T300 for a while. Much smoother than the G920 i had before. Honestly though upgrading to a Moza R5 is the best thing i ever bought. Made the world of difference.
@@jahshjahsh2002 its buttery smooth. i had issues steering precisely at high speeds on my t150 as you were basically jumping between the teeth on the gears
I was going to get the g923 when my mum went to US for a trip but she couldn't fit it in her suitcase 😞
Call me weird, but I love the t248’s look
I like the mic and the water shoes. First wheel the G25 after weeks of can we buy one can we buy one, can we please buy one :D
I’ve got a t128 for a while now and for the games I play it’s nice
Idk why I'm watching this, I have a csl dd, but great video bro
I spent 0$ on my first wheel, cus I don't have one🙃 I sim race with a game pad👍
i have had my TMX pro so the xbox version of the t150 for about 4 years now .great entry level choices
CSL DD
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The cheapest Fanatec circular wheel like the P1 (option: cheapest f1 rim like Mclearen V2)
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CSL V2 (three pedals)
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Fanatec gearstick (sequential/ manual)
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Fanatec handbrake V1.5
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a bundle discount?
awsome mousepad! i have mine for 18 yrs now :p and thee razer plasma diamondback LE mouse, also still working after 18 yrs :p
Which one would yall recommend if my goal is not racing but just realistic simulator driving like, city car driving for example.
Amazing microphone quality just wanted to say it, pretty nice price too