The BEST Budget Gaming Laptops For 2023
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- Опубліковано 28 гру 2022
- Here at the ToastyBros we review a TON of laptops. From $150 budget laptops and used deals all the way to $3,000+ 300Hz insane laptops, we have seen them all. Today we're going to focus on the best budget laptops that are around $1,000 or less.
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Acer Aspire 3 Ryzen 3 7320U
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Asus Zenbook 14
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Lenovo Ideapad Gaming 3 2022 Edition
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HP Victus 15T
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Gigabyte Aorus RTX 3070 i7 12700H
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Thank you guys for the information that is precious, keep it up with the great work
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Picked up a HP Pavilion refurb for £500 a couple of months back. Didn't buy it for gaming. However, have needed to test the odd download prior to moving to my main gaming rig. Shocked at how well the Ryzen APUs handle things like PCSX2, RPCS3, and Xemu.
how runs the last halo ???
I need a laptop which has 64bit process & OS, Win 10, Direct X 11, Dedicated Graphics card with ateast 2GB GPU memory (Nvidia GTX 970 or AMD Radeon RX 590), 16GB Ram,
Good processor with 3 GHz or more and which had more cores (Intel i5 8400 or AMD Ryzan 5 1500X)
Hard disk 512GB NVMe or more.
Mainly a good laptop which can, play Microsoft flight simulator 2020 smoothly.
Can you please give me a link for a Good & Cheap laptop with above spec to buy in UK?
@@Tahsin_Hussain well try pavillion or hp envy 13 or 15 they are 11th gen so very fastand 8 - 16gb ram
@@Monarchy756 I needed this information, also!
Thanks!
Will look'em up right now!
@@Newthon-ds6os Runs a halo quite well. Upgrade ram from 8gb to 16 and add extra ssd in the empty second hd slot for under $80 and you can run every game available quite well. 💪
Yessss🔥 finally a review that’s legit with cameras focusing on the product and doing some work irt! YT is littered with videos of a camera facing a person as if we went to see them, we wanna see the product in action and these guys always deliver it best content out there.
I’ve had my HP Victus for about a month now, no problem with screen wobble and I added another stick of 8gb ram in it and it works flawlessly with games like Battlefield 1
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Thank you for all the content this year.
Hey guys great video as always but I was wondering if you guys could do a review on the asus rog flow lineup with the z13 x13 and x16
Cheers
Picked up the Dell G16 at Best Buy a couple weeks ago. It was on sale for $1099 and I had over $250 in reward credits; making it even cheaper for myself. At 1099 it is a really good value because of the 3060 gpu, 12700 cpu, ddr5 ram, and 1440p+ (1600p) high refresh 16" screen. Only downside is there is only 1 nvme slot, so if you want more storage you have to swap out the factory drive or depend upon an external drive. Not regretting my choice at all because if I wanted a 1440p or better 17.3" screen with a 3060 (or better) the price almost immediately soars past $2000.
Whats the frame rate?
@@WreckyBreccy Haven't done a whole lot of AAA tests with it yet; the most demanding I've played so far is Assassin's Creed Syndicate on 1440p with high settings and it was 90+fps. Most E-sports are 120+fps with no issues either.
for the same price you could of got the Lenovo Legion or Zephyrus g14. Ahhhhh!
@@aarongarcia2911 those are very good laptops, but a 14" screen is a non-starter for me. I preferred to find a 17.3" laptop that was 1440p or better with a 3060, but I wasn't able to find one for anywhere near the same price as the Dell G16.
How much ram and storage did the laptop come with? If I have to guess one of ram or storage will be half xD
The exact video I needed today.
A little over 1000 will do !! Subscribed!
I bought a HP ENVY x360 2 in 1 laptop on 12/22/22 and I love it, Definitely got me into Laptop. It runs The Witcher 3 and MPC BEATS plus my MPK249 MIDI piano without any issues. Will be looking to get one close to $2000 soon just because I can.
BTW I enjoyed the video!!!
I got an amazing laptop for the holidays: an acre nitro 5 with r7 6000 series and a 3060 on sale😊 thank you toasty bros for guiding me through my computer journey
which model of nitro 5? and the price?
@@muazhasanuddin7653 I don’t remember the exact model, but it was a microcenter platinum and idk if it’s still there. I got it on sale at 1,000 instead of 1,600 or whatever the original price was
Ordered a Lenovo Ideapad 3 a few days ago. It comes January 3rd and I can’t wait to finally try it.
How is it?
@@chewy4408 Works fine, I don’t really play many games that require much power but so far it has ran everything very well.
@@Afrancis16 update?
Can u check if it runs Fortnite well and how much fps
@@AliDawahFan Haven’t tried Fortnite, but it runs Read Dead Redemption 2 fine so I’d imagine Fortnite would be light for it.
got a victus - gen 12 i9 with the gtx 1650 and 16 gb seriously rips. once going up to 16 gb there are absolutely zero complaints for 500 dollars on sale. 144 hz monitor is what pushes the victus over the edge for me. also 500gb compared to 250 on most base laptops.
How did you get 12th gen with i9? Custom install?
1650, big yikes
@@charginginprogresssnot a bad card it runs 240 fps on every esport tittle
I picked up the HP victus. It's great but the screen is wobbly. Also there's a cashback promo so it's a great deal in my country.
I have the Victus one. The screen is quite wobbly, but it is nice. 😀
ToastyBros love your content but would love to see you guys review the Asus Zenbook 14x oled with the rtx 3050 and the Asus Zenbook Pro with the rtx 4060.
I love your vids and your streams!
Thanks
Purchased a Lenovo Legion i5 can’t wait to use it 😊
Just got a MSI GP66 Leopard with a 140W RTX3070 for 1300€ on Amazon. It was 1800€ prior and I was gonna get a TUF A15 but that beast showed up in the meantime. It was one of the last in stock so it went to 1800€ Out of Stock and now 2300€ (last time I checked)
Quite happy with it so far.
Siiick , i'm getting the ideapad gaming 3 they're talking about. Ryzen 5 6600H , 8gb DDR5 , rtx 3050. After some time i'm gonna upgrade to 16 gb. Already ordered waiting on it to arrive.
@@Senko1800 i would recommend adding another 8gb stick into that thing for better preformance
@@Hellsins u read my mind bro a few weeks/months after it comes ima do just that
@@Senko1800 If you can, Id hold out a couple weeks and wait to purchase laptop until after CES in the first week of January. The new stuff will be expensive, no doubt, but hopefully it will push prices of 2022 laptops down even further. And if you can, save up for a 3060 laptop as that GPU is so much faster and more worth the money for typically ~$100 more
glad the aspire 3 is in here, just got one for christmas and very happy with it
got it wiht the i5 and 8gb ram
@@pandaisahomieTTV 8gb ram😭😭😭😂😂😂😂 acer nitro on top
@@sematarygraveman you're right, I should return it right now😧😧💀💀🤦🤦 aight Marco,
@@pandaisahomieTTV noo you should buy a stick of ram
does it run games decent?
Sup guys great video and content! So my budget is around $800-$900 range and I really don’t care for brand. I would like to get the best bang for my buck when it comes to a gaming laptop. I typically play lower end MOBA games with my friends like DOTA2 and Heroes of the storm. What do you recommend for me with my budget, and they games I will be playing?
Word of advice to those looking: Don't bother with a 3050 or 3050 Ti. They were designed for ultra thin laptops, not gaming laptops. Sure you can game on them on lower settings but they are terrible value for your money. The 3060 is a massive step up for a little more money.
You can definitely play games on high settings with this card
@@yelsew6907 the 3050?
@@hanshotlast Can agree with this for the 3050ti
I’m Using a Lenovo Ideapad Gaming 3 with a Rtx 3050ti
It’s a solid choice for moderate gaming. I can throw Universe Sandbox 2, Automation, BeamNG drive, Minecraft with decent rtx shaders, and much more at it with minimal problems.
Snagged it on Black Friday for under 500$ and for the price point it slaughters
I'm using my Victus 16 with 3050, I set max settings for 1080p 60 fps and get 60 stable fps, and gpu doesn't even cap to 100% (with DLSS, and on some games, with ray tracing too) usage, stays below 65 °C...so idk tf you on.
"Ultra thin laptops" like you call them have integrated GPUs.
Not true, I have Rtx 3050 laptop and it can play all games Around high settings at 1080p. RTX 3050 is very cheap and super good for the price, I Paid for my Laptop only 600 Euro. And 3060 in my country was like 1,1k+ eur at that time, so not worth extra 500 euro.
Love the vid
i finally got a new pc for xmas. its a nitro 5 with an i7 11th gen and a 3050ti and i got it for about 700 to 800 and its performing pretty well so far except the wifi is kinda buggy rn but other than that its been amazing
Good deal tbh
This DreamMachines RG4060-17PL27 Laptop with RTX4060 graphics card has a very stable design and I haven't had any problems with its performance during several months of use.
I immediatly died inside when I saw a gaming laptop with a gtx 1650 being featured in the video
Yeah, but thats usually what's around for under 1000 dollars. Same for 3050 systems. I think I saw an MSI laptop with a 3060 for exactly 1000 dollars
@@blainecountysherrif4542 true, but when it comes to price the 1650 laptops are "competing" with the 3050 laptops and it's not even close between those two. I would feel bad for anyone in 2022/2023 who paid close to the exact same for a 1650 as they could for a 3050.
This Guy figured out how to write as a ghost respect
idk wtf y’all are talkin about, my 1650 gets me 60 frames at elden ring on high settings
@@aminhussainy9568 good for u
Love you loyt, i have found though, that scraping through ebay for a month normally gets you a pretty good deal
Thanks I love u too
I picked up the Lenovoa Ideadpad 3, i upgraded to 32gig ddr5 and added a 1tb hd. I'm extremely impressed by it's performance. Especially the thermals i haven't seen it go over 85 degrees fully loaded. During games like Hearthstone and even FO76 the fans don't even turn on as it's using the internal CPU and not going above 60 degrees.
In WH40k Darktide the fans do kick on but i'm getting 90fps and since it's a 3050 it can use DLSS. My only complaint is that since it's a 3050 it only has 4 gigs vram, it would be perfect if it had a 3060 with 6 gigs but it wouldn't be $600 then.
Most impressivlely in Star Citizen i get 35fps in cities and 50-60fps everywhere else.
Doesn't it only support up to 16gb??? That's what it says
@@igorz3551 nope it's ddr5 so it can support up to 64 gigs
the gaming one or regular?
You got me sold on Star Citizen
@@MarvelMania677 yeah it plays Star Citizen surprisingly well for the price and with 3.18 it performs pretty well. But you will need to upgrade to 32 gigs otherwise it will crash all over the place playing SC with only 8 gigs. And a second NVME to put games on also helps.
But the processer is extremely fast given the price.
Good day...can you guys do a full review on the Dell G16 laptop...thinking of purchasing one...thank you
I really think the msi gf63 (i5 11400H with 3050ti varient) should have a place here.. i know its graphics limitation makes the lenovo a way better option, but for the price u r paying its an absolute catch, i got it at black friday for only 600$ and i have been happy with it! Considering that my old laptop was a intel hd 4000 with i3 3110, but hey, u guys r still awesome :)
This is latest review meaning only intel 12 gen laptops and same for amd.
What a nice update! Enjoy that monster! 👌✨
is the screen brightness enough for u?
@@HeckYeahRyan yea it is actually, not as bad as what people say.
@@Deliberation_Space thx :)
Bro these laptops are crazy and their price is so good
yo hows that rtx 3050 getting 200 fps on fortnite, since the new update mine runs on around 110 fps. any settings that need to lowered?
Whoever sees this, if you are considering the acer nitro 5 as your laptop, good choice. Got it 5 days ago, only negatives is no MUX switch and loud fans, BUT they do cool well!
@RobFlexz yes they do but its higher end models im pretty sure. mine with an i7 11th gen and 3050ti came with a MUX switch
@@TheyCallMeNoobieButItsNewBa Mine came with a i5 12500h and a 3050. So overall close specs to yours. I assume its just a different model i got the 55WA model from best buy
I got one too for the holidays with r7 6800h and rtx 3060. Good build, but yes, it is quite loud
You guys are seriously my favorite UA-camrs and I’m building my very own PC because of it. Love the vids!!
Thanks
I got my G15 on sale and it was like $650. Very nice for the price.
Yall should do the Lenovo IdeaPad gaming 3 vs the Hp victus vid
amazing vid
I'm partial to the ASUS gaming laptops. I have a VivoBook S15 and it has been very reliable.
ty imaa check these out
Bought the ideapad gaming 3, with Ryzen 5 5600, RTX3050ti, 16gb of ram and 1tb SSd for 800 dollars. Waiting for it to arrive as it will be my first laptop! From what ive seen it's great and worth the price.
Go you special new year package 🆙🆙🎉🎉🆙🆙.....
can you give me the link to that?
@@mumzah what link?
@@arfootball3026 idk if its the youtube channel comment restrictions but it doesnt let me send any link. ive sent it multiple timea and it keeps deleting my comment
@@mumzah I forgive you
Will there be a budget webcam video in the near future? Can’t decide what to upgrade my junky one to 😅
These guys are literally the best PC UA-cam channel on the site
1000% agree. Toasty Bros & Dawid are some of my most watched channels!
🧢
They pump out the same generic garbage every day without giving any good critical perspective or actually great deals. This is a PC channel for people who don't know anything about PC's
@@acidneon516I would have to agree with that
@@vog- You could get the same exact take from just googling "best gaming laptops 2022 under $$$". Just promoting big brands without getting into the nuance of anything.
The fact they think HP is bang for your buck i absolutely disagree these are the most basic PC dudes I've ever seen. oh not to mention they think Ali express is a quality site to get components from just because they get a sponsorship from them.
Is the Lenovo Ideapad or the HP Victus good for game development on top of gaming in general. I am looking to create video games and play video games.
I am thinking about getting the Acer Aspire 3. Do you think this is a good choice if I just want a laptop for mostly business, with a little gaming? Would you recommend the Asus Zenbook 14 otherwise. Like I said, I only need it for a little gaming so which would you recommend?
IMO go for Asus we don't want the little gaming to be frustrating
My first laptop was an HP. It was so terrible that I just can't imagine myself buying something from HP again, except if the price is really cool.
HP has some decent and good laptops
what u got now i’m in ur past situation rn 😭
Hey you might not read this but I have really needed a PC and I might buy a PC from you but idk what's good because I'm new to pc stuff so I would like to know if your PC is good
Is the lenovo ideapad 3 good for gaming? And what are the bad parts about it?
I’ve tried 2 separate dealers with then hp victus 15.6 and both laptops stopped working completely at after a few days. The computers would no longer turn on and the caps lock button was flashing.
although i came to this video to look at gaming laptops at budget .. this video made me realize i should just save my money wait and building my own pc instead of being impatient. so ty !
I dont know how the market is in your country but in my country building yourself a pc isnt worth it at all when you have all these good laptops around 1000€
I actually picked up an ideapad gaming 3 because of you guys! Im so happy with it
How many fps it run?
Is there a problem with thermals?
@@fleshplushie Depends on what you are running mate. But i can reassure you that you'll be using that 120 Hz display at it's maximum because most games do run at 120+
@@elpsycho203 Well, on performance mode, (which turns the fans into god mode) the GPU temp gets to like 80C but never beyond that. I've been pretty happy with it considering some laptops get to like 95C and stuff. But again, remember that eventho you might get the exact same laptop, they can always perform differently for various reasons.
A HP Victus I recently got had issue of the mouse touchpad collapsing occasionally when I right-click...
i have an asus tuf dash a15 and get like 30-60 fps in pretty much every game, on windows 10. Could you show me the optimizations and i have all on low to medium
I got the Lenovo ideapad
gaming 3 with a 3050ti and the ryzen 5600H and it was on sale for 600 dollars and now it’s over 800 dollars so it’s definitely worth the price
Can it run games like the Sims with packs and mods and stuff? I've been looking for a good laptop that'll run it as smoothly as possible.
@@dragonire_dino0856 I’ve never played sims before
@@MO99ED I was just wondering if the laptop could run big games and stuff
@@dragonire_dino0856 yes I played fortnite at 150fps on pro settings apex at 90-120 on pro settings and call of duty at 70-90 on low to medium settings. I didn’t play on a external monitor either
@@dragonire_dino0856did it work for the sim’s?
I have a Lenovo v130 15,6" full HD. I play WoW Classic, but I really want to play WoW Retail without all the lagging I experience. I've played retail for a while also, but I just want a better gaming experience. Hoping to find something around 800 euros...
Asus g15 AE when it’s on sale for $1100 crushes these options
Are these good for like steam and Gamepass games?
What's your suggestion or thoughts on HP Omen?
Hey! Can anyone recommend what's the very best laptop I can get for under 2k that will be decent for future proofing? Or at the very least, play triple A games well for a few years to come?
Hi I want a gaming laptop and have a shop voucher for $1700 it expire in next 23 months so do not have a lot to spend how long should I wait before I can afford a good gaming laptop that 13th gen intel on my budget? I want 17 inch screen and 1Tb hard drive min.
What is your opinion on a razor blade 14?
I’ve been using a 2013 MacPro w Intel Iris 1536mb graphics so I’m pretty sure a calculator would be an upgrade 😅
Your probably the first youtuber that Didnt show me a 1200 dollar laptop as budget first
Is gigabyte G7-GE (I15-12500H-RTX 3050) GOOD? IM THINKIN OF BUYIN IT....
i bought my MSi katana gf66 i5-11400H and RTX3060 for $993 only, i think this is good too!
I heard that the display is not good though
Hi nice vid
Amazing how all these products cost twice as much where I live.
same
Anyone have any recommendations? I have roughly $730 budget, I'll be using it for mostly coding, photo editing and gaming(csgo) but I'm not sure which to choose because there's so much to choose from...
👍 Thanks! 😍
*!! Please Help !!*
Question: _Is the following considered a _*_potato_*_ notebook/laptop?_ TiA! ✌
- Acer Aspire A315-53-30N0 15.6" LCD Notebook
- Intel Core i3 (8th Gen) i3-8130U Dual-core (2 Core) 2.20 GHz
- 12 GB DDR4 SDRAM
- 16 GB Optane Memory
- 1 TB HDD
- Windows 10 Home 64-bit - 1920 x 10
When it is the best time to buy a gaming laptop?
Cuz prices are flying right now
does it all supports hdmi 2.1?
The exact models are impossible to search for in Denmark, I did search for the Acer Aspire 3, added the CPU to the tag but it showed tons of Acer Aspire 3 laptops with tons of other configurations.
Do you know any good cheap website for laptop to buy in Denmark since I travel there every month?
acer is garbage anyway so, xD
huh, i dont understand the acer aspire 3...
I needed that laptop for school and i was testing all sorts of kinds like opening rgular apps as powerpoint but it wat not not not normal glitchy, and the laptop had several blackouts.
So i pretty much just want something i can run RPG games on, like skyrim, elden ring, and some assassins creed. While simultaneously being able to keep track of some business stuff. Like my stocks keeping a portfolio and checking emails.
Okay I need help but it’s dumb… I think the best choice realistically would be the acer aspire 3. But okay literally the only game I play is TF2 and I just want something that can handle that VERY well. If you don’t know, TF2, although an older and technically easy to run game, it has some issues that make certain computers not work as well as others, specs besides. I would really appreciate an opinion. Thanks
Honestly if u go for a gpu higher then 1660 i would just rather skip 2000 and go to 3000 straight (i would go for rtx 3060 6gb/12gb) this is the one i would choose
I'd probably still choose an Acer Nitro 5 just bc it still had a good kick in 2022. Dunno how good it is compared to later models. In all, 1,000 dollars still seems a lot. Let me know your thoughts.👍
Bought it 3 times had to refund it every single time due to charger not working
Which type did you buy?
@@athex_3705you have to really push it in until you hear a click
Thoughts on the Aorus 5 SE4?
the hp victus is incredible. I have 1 week with the laptop and is amazing, i recommend it.
fps in somegames:
warzone 60-80
fortnite 140-190 in arena
csgo 240-300
my pc has 8gb ram
hey m8 i was thinking on the victus too but not sure about the 1650 gpu how has been ur experience with that?
@@juan5d16 thx! I'm thonling of buying it, I'll check the fps in valorant
Bro would you mind trying out Lumber Tycoon 2 on Roblox with max graphics and tell me what fps plz.
@@shkb_ i play counter blox and phantom forces and the fps are in 250 in low, in max 200
I like how non of these laptops featured our boy GTX 1660ti
I Have a pc with a Gigabyte B365m DS3H , Geforce gtx , I3-9100f and it runs slow a lot so I was wondering if you could tell me what would be a good graphics card that would run faster than around 60fps and if yall thought I needed to upgrade from the I3 processor.
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@@toastytips ?
my birthday is comming up and idk if i want a regular laptop or a gaming laptop bc i want a touch screen that can run games well but is also suitable for drawing and stuff
Does acer aspire 3 actually runs game like csgo and fn? Because I saw a video saying its not meant for gaming at all
Can someone please reply to me that they have a battery life or no
is acer aspire 7 great too?
I need a laptop which has 64bit process & OS, Win 10, Direct X 11, Dedicated Graphics card with ateast 2GB GPU memory (Nvidia GTX 970 or AMD Radeon RX 590), 16GB Ram,
Good processor with 3 GHz or more and which had more cores (Intel i5 8400 or AMD Ryzan 5 1500X)
Hard disk 512GB NVMe or more.
Mainly a good laptop which can, play Microsoft flight simulator 2020 smoothly.
Can you please give me a link for a Good & Cheap laptop with above spec to buy in UK?
I got a Victus 16 (2021 model) with Ryzen 5600h, 3050 and 16 gb of ram. Only 745 euros, that's nice.
Where did you buy it?
Man I really wish I could afford computers. Never had a pc in my life and most likely never will but hey its always fun watching these reviews.
Get a Job
Picked up a Msi gf63 thin used for 400€
Can you do laptops on 1000-2000 price please
I'm looking for an ASUS ROG Duo and it's impossible to find!
Can you make list laptop for streaming game
Hi, which is better, MSI GF63 Thin i7 11800H + RTX 3050 Ti or Lenovo Ideapad Gaming i5 12500H + RTX 3050 ?
I would probably choose the i5 one because i assume its way cheaper if you want to upgrade you should definetly get the 3060 its on a whole other lever
@@amazinng1705 Hi, thanks, just as you suggest, I finally got my hand an RTX 3060. Since the 40 series coming out, the price drops for 3060 is really good.
Would The Cheapest version Of the first One play Roblox good? Or Mid Price?
SHOULD I BUY ACER NITRO 5 I5 11GEN MY budget is low ?
Za cenę 3999 zł Dream Machines G1650-15PL90 jest świetną opcją. Procesor Intel i5-13500H zapewnia szybką i stabilną pracę, a dodatkowe funkcje, takie jak duża ilość pamięci RAM i pojemny dysk, uatrakcyjniają jego wygląd.
Guys where is DDR5 with 6400 Mhz and higher ram? I am looking into it... I want the best memory frequency laptops money can buy - for gaming, for 4k/8k editing (no frame drops), music production and 3D CAD capabilities for maximum rendering.... ? You should make a future top of the best and fastest power laptops. Great job, though on this roundup!!! Have a great New Year 2023!
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Does anybody know if the Radeon 610M in the Acer Aspire has access to RSR? I would like to see those scores on things like rocket league or Fortnite using that.
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cna i buy them on amazon does it work
What about HP VICTUS 15?
Can I play genshin impact on the first laptop acer inspire 3??