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I wish this would happen. Especially now when The Penguin proved how much the lack of an R rating held the Batman movie back. Unfortunately they might go with the same rating as last time to market it to a bigger audience.
hopefully with the success of deadpool and wolverine and how well this show did they will decide to go with rated R because honestly this show is better than The Batman lol
It’s the Tony soprano effect where just when you think Tony turned into his worst self, the more you realize upon rewatching that he was always like that.
This ending is a reminder for the viewers than Penguin is NOT an anti-Hero, he is a Villain with no redeemable quality in him. I love this show, the Penguin become a character we all love to hate. RIP Victor.
Yeah that was the most cold blooded shit. But amazing writing. We finally get to see a show based on the progression of an actual villian instead of an anti-hero. Marvel should have made Carnage dark and horrific like this as well. Cletus Kassady was an abused psychopath who murdered his own parents. It would have been great to see what happens when Evil connects to a symbiote
@@grinchoi1 Talk about Disney, there were fan who urge Disney to make 1 simple Star War Movie that would make them boat load of Money. A movie named "Lord Vader". where Darth Vader relentlessly hunt down Jedi without Mercy.
He was naive to the "game". He was just a regular good kid that lost everything. His only chance was to leave without notice & be clear across the country with his girl. He wanted to be honest and tell Oz he was leaving & that's when I think reality hit him."If I go now, I'll probably get followed & he'll kill both of us...eventually." He was dead as soon as he got caught trying to steal those rims!
Victor lacked common sense and was swimming with sharks and thought they wouldn't eat him , he barely knew walt and thought he could trust a dude he saw betray people he was close to . I liked Victor but this was natural selection.
Man, they stuck the landing in such a big way. I saw the Vic scene coming but it still felt like 100 stab wounds. THAT'S how you do a Batman villain origin story, Todd Phillips 🙄
This show gaslit us so hard. Like you already forgot that Vic was basically conscripted by Penguin at gunpoint, who then turned him into a petty murderer like him. he never gave a shit about Vic, ever. He was just a tool, a resource, like anything else. Also just like Rex said "guys like that will do anything for me".
I dont think there should be a season 2. One, because this was enough of a masterpiece to finish it here, and two we all truly hate the penguin now. We kinda of rooted for Oz in this series, his relationship with Vic was almost like father and son and while he hadnt knifed Vic in the back I still wanted Penguin to win. I would be hard to watch a season 2 where i just despise the central character for all 8 episodes.
I don’t think there needs to be a season 2, but I would argue that hating Oz doesn’t mean there shouldn’t be. I absolutely despised Tony Soprano and I watched for all 6 seasons
Remember that time Vic was in fact enslaved to help Oz at gunpoint just for fucking with his car? lol Masterful show to take us through the journey of Oz gaslighting a fresh goon. His mentor Rex taught him to identify weak people to use like this.
@@breach005He wasn't enslaved tho. Penguin literally gave him an opportunity to leave and he could have left and got on the bus with his GF. He chose to stay and saved penguins life which makes Vics death that much worse.
@@WillWilliams-vo4nk vic was no longer a good person he was killer looking for a aprroval just like penguin from his mother . he knows what he has become and callls vic a good guy almost like you dont deserve to become like me
@@redbrickhustla86 It was more about preventing another scenario like what happened with his mom. He actually loved Vic so Vic could have been used by someone to get at Penguin. So he decided to eliminate Vic before that could even happen.
So despicable what Oz did to Victor but that’s the true arc of a villain. I thought for sure that Eve was going out the window of the penthouse but she’s lucky she’s participating in Oz’s delusions. 😅 Looking forward to Sofia and Selina linking up. The Penguin is a fantastic series!
The most messed up thing to me is to me in this episode is that penguin killed Victor with his bare hands. He could have done it in a humane way, like shooting him in the head so it would've been quick, and Viktor wouldn't have known ultimate betrayal by someone he considered family. And he smiled in the end.
"you're a good guy, vic" while strangling him... Though not like they had not telegraphed the entire time that that Oz is a bit of a scheming, manipulative, murderous turncoat and will do literally anything for power for his mothers approval, which he has to coerce against her will too...jesus lol. Vic is now a liability to his political career, just like that Vic is now John Doe in the losing war for Gotham. Entirely irredeemable to where now we realllly want to watch Batman dismantle this bastard lol. Masterful.
I predicted Oz to kill Vic by the end of the series from the moment they started working together, but I thought it was going to be by gunshot too. That was brutal. Imagine if he had drowned him instead, it kind of would've parallelled what happened to his family.
Somehow penguin knew something was going on with Rex in the club. He was able to talk his away out of it again with the “don’t give up on me yet” speech
@ZeroRegretz possible villains roster origins: Two- Face Riddler Professor Pyg The Ventriloquist Mr. Freeze Poison Ivy Bane Hush Firefly Mad Hatter Court of Owls 🦉 Matt Reeves better do this kind of Rogues Gallery, or we Freaking Riot 😂😂😂😅!!!*
I like how Oz just becomes another carmine with the choking victor the scars on his hand when he kills victor like carmine and making Sofia a scape goat.
I've never wanted Batman to break his one rule for a member of his rouges gallery before. This episode changed that. Well done to the writers. They really made sure any feeling of wanting to see Oz succeed got washed away with this last episode. Brilliant.
This show is fucking phenomenal. One of the best shows of the year along with Shogun. One of the best comic book series of all time. The Penguin is a fascinating, despicable character. Can't wait to see The Batman beat the living shit out of him in the next movie. Fucking A!
Notice how when young Oz says all those things to prove no one knows his mom better than him, he can’t even perceive the obvious disgusted look on her face. The whole time he only saw what he wanted to see.
Bro you know how wicked you gotta be to make wilson fisk look like a saint☠️ I don’t wanna hype it up, but the parallel of Oz killing the one person on the planet who truly believed in him and loved him while still desperately clinging to his mother who hated him just so he can continue to crave her affection and approval was brilliant. I wondering why he kept eve alive and when he started talking to her it clicked. like truly great tv. dissapointed there was no batman cameo but the show was so strong without it that we didn’t need it, im just looking at bruce crazyyy cause he let everything happen😭 I’d love to see this show get some awards acknowledgement, very compelling
In the movie Bruce said, "It’s a big city, I can’t be everywhere.” This is a very realistic take on Batman, especially for one who just started & probably doesn't have any form of air transportation yet, it's tough to just drive everywhere. The end of the Penguin series even shows how huge Gotham is, look how far Oz's penthouse is from the Bat signal. Imo since Pattinson wasn't the Bruce Wayne we're all familiar with & he was neglecting the Wayne business in the first film, I feel like he's probably busy putting an effort into finally doing Bruce Wayne stuff during this series. Imo, that would be a solid explanation. Then in the next film, they wouldn't have to go through the whole "Bruce Wayne" transformation, which was already done in Nolan's Batman Begins, we don't really need to see it again (like Bruce's parent's death scene or Spiderman's origin, etc.).
The Best thing about this show...and there was a lot of of great things...is they showed the Pengin as a Villain. Not an ati-hero or misunderstood vitcim, but a full blown, no redemption, pure evil Villain!
This show was so good. Oz off'ing Victor was Oz tying up loose ends, it goes back to the airport hangar scene when you see the right hand man killing the leaders of the gangs. Oz explained to Sofia how all those guys were hungry and came from nothing, Oz could see that Vic was practically becoming like him and the cycle of betrayal would just repeat itself. Oz did love Vic like family though.
I feel like its both tying up loose ends and getting rid of a weakness. Oswald's mother is one of his weaknesses as Sofia was able to hold her captive to get to him and mentally torment him. Oswald was starting to care for Vic like family so Vic could have been another weakness for his enemies to use against him if he'd care for him a lot and he knows if he wants to rule Gotham, he can't have any weaknesses. But I def feel like its correlated with how the other right hands were killing their leaders too since its not just a coincidence that was shown right before Penguin kills Vic.
21:55 It’s clearly a depiction of the Oedipus complex, and more obvious it becomes when you discover that the name Oedipus means “swollen feet”-a direct reference to Oz’s condition.
Her acting was absolutely brilliant this season, I think we can all agree Colin Farrell is fantastic too, but she’s got such a range of subtle tics and playful expressions in her scenes, that she always seems just about to snap, or just relishing something evil, yet somehow actually sympathetic even when she kills her family? Honestly she chews the scenery in every scene she’s in but never over-acts in a cheesy way, just the perfect blend of psycho fun for a villain like that.
The ending actually felt horrifying to me. In my mind, him with the mother at the top floor felt like he had propped up, almost a doll/corpse/simulacra of his mother in front of the window, to convince himself he realised -her dream- his promise of getting her a penthouse at the top floor.
Colin Ferrell killed it as Penguin. He's up there with Danny Devitos' nightmare enducing Penguin on my top list. My empathy for him fizzled out last week when we learned why his brothers are gone, and now, I wouldn't p**s on him if he was on fire. I spent most of the scene where Sophia was going to take his moms finger if he didn't admit what he done behind my blanket. All of the actors were great, but Colin deserves an award for his portrayal. I really hope someone drops Vic in the Lazarus pit.
I guess he had to in the end.. he wants to ascend the ladder and mix in with the politicians n all so i guess k1ll1ng Victor was him making that step from Crime boss to KING. And the Crime King always has his fingers in the local government and police..
They did a good job on making us like both Oz and Vic as a duo but then they reminded us that Oz is the villain and there were no exceptions. Such a great show!
Insult to injury just erasing him from existence. But that really drives home that Oz has elevated into a real monster. Whatever care he may have had for Vic vanished the moment he corrupted Gotham's elite and has a new pathway to power. The sick thing is that Oz knows Vic has a good heart, which is why he also knows he's a liability to his political career as a snitch later.
@@vaderstarI was thinking that this whole time. They could always change their mind and just let him be dead but this is definitely setting up victor zsasz.
Agree. There is zero need to develop the Penguin character anymore outside of him being in a movie as full on Penguin or a cameo in another series. The ending with him killing Vic cemented him as being pure evil. A season two series would take away from a perfect ending to the series.
What I love with the letter from Selina it giving family members coming out the wood to get there financial cut lol. Selina will now takes the money that Sofia will obviously not have access to.
I feel like that’s another reason for this show…. I mean how many times have we seen a marvel or even dc movie where they introduce a villain and he can be cool or flashy but that satisfaction in their defeat is just NEVER there… I can’t wait to see Batman beat the everlasting sh** out of the penguin.
This has got to be the greatest live action comic book TV series ever. I know most fans of geek fandom want to complain and be cynical for the sake of being cynical these days but if someone says this series sucked, then they’re complaining to complain. There wasn’t one episode that was filler every episode meant something. The writing, the acting, the cinematography for this series was just all on point. This show was flawless.
I now have 100% confidence they can do something cool (heh) with Mr Freeze and other more fantastical villains like that. The Penguin in this is a smart mix of Al Capone and like the Tony Stark of bullshit.
That's how you make a great villian's origin story. The perfect build up I've ever seen in entertainment history. This is undoubtedly the greatest tv show I've ever seen. If it was movie it'd have easily swipe so many Oscars. Masterful Writing, Direction, Amazing Performance by all cast, visually stunning as per a tv show, it felt so realistic. HBO make Masterpiece.
If you're already on the HBO train and enjoyed Penguin, definitely check out the Sopranos. It will blow your fuckin mind. Honestly I believe there were a lot of things in this show specifically patterned after that- and that's not a bad point at all.
The actor who played Vic would be a great casting choice for live action Miles Morales. He showed so much range and I would love to see him in more leading roles. I think he could play Miles perfectly.
this performance makes me think Collin Farrell could play Penguin , Joker, Bane , Ras Al Gul and prolly even poison Evy all in the same movie and somehow make it work... his face change in killing Vic was insane...
10 out of 10 season 1. Amazing writing. Questions asked , questions answered .... The fact were getting this level commitment opens up sooooo many opportunities for this series. Just hopefully they contract the actors to the role and we get this level of performance in season 2. Colin nailed this as he always does. Great review bro
The Penguin is not the anti-hero we were hoping for; he’s pure evil, as the last two episodes have shown. We can only hope he dies after what he did to Vic, but the guy has Rey “Skywalker” levels of plot armor lol
Im happy they slammed it into the ground that Oz is a HUGE PIECE OF SHIT. He was never an anti-hero, we really could have rooted for any player in this mob war lol they're all wretched criminals and killers worthy of a visit from Batboots. Its actually refreshing in a way to see a show where the villain actually wins. And completely wins. The power vacuum Batman and Riddler helped create has allowed Oz to rise, and hell have to take responsibility for that as both Bruce Wayne and Batman
The way I interpreted the ending with his mom, was that Oswald knew she was unhappy. He knew she wanted to die. But I think what she said to him actually DID get through to him, even if he was in denial at first. So that's his 'punishing' her by basically flaunting it in her face that she got everything she wished for, but also everything she deserved.
@@BavA_GaminGchildren can be monsters you know that right lmao. Not every child is innocent. Feed the flame don’t cry when it becomes an out of control forest fire
Wow, I just binge watch the Penguin by accident and this show was great! I was only suppose to watch one episode and get caught up later but I couldn't stop watching it. The penguin character is a master piece of a true villain. The ending was fantastic. I hope they do a season 2.
If Sofia comes back in The Batman Part 2, it would be cool to have a scene in a similar setting to the one between Batman and Riddler at Arkham, in which she tells him that Selina told her to reach out to him and reveals what the Penguin has done during the series
“Stabby thoughts” Francis was a great character. Knowing she knew about what Oz did, it brings more depth to the earlier episode when she said “if my son is a nobody then what does that make me” or something along those lines. Lots of tragic ends in this show. Edit: also, Sophia’s outfits this episode was just so🔥. Her black dress with the red scarf as the accent, and her final red outfit where she didn’t cover the scars on her neck because she felt free from here trauma.
I have some theories about vic that might be reaching but just hear me out... 1: He might be Jason Todd in reverse. He's betrayed by the penguin just like Jason Todd thought that the Batman betrayed him. He "dies" working for a villain and comes back working for a hero 2: there's a lot of symbolism and some of the episodes. We see him driving into a tunnel on a motorcycle just like the Batman. And he's caught stealing the rims from the penguins car just like jason tried doing to Batman. I think the shot of Oz throwing the Vics card into the water is symbolism for vic being reborn. 3. Although the penguin chokes vic, i don't think vic is dead. Passed out maybe but not dead. He may come back wanting revenge just like jason wanted revenge with the Batman. Vics character was too well written for him to be a throw away character for the penguin to just screw over and kill. Every character in this show has a bigger purpose in this universe.We need a robin in this universe and it needs to be victor🙏🏾
Thought the finale was one of the best I’ve seen maybe ever. Just the way they did beginning with the flashbacks and trying to reveal what Oz had did but kept us from knowing snd then ending with oz becoming his true self by killing the “last” family member. Brilliant!
Also us having to see victor get taken out like a dumb bitch but we didnt get to see julian rush get beat to death really sucks. I hate julians character
It really took until then? Seriously? Lolol not when he killed both of his brothers or when he allowed his mother’s finger to be cut off instead of just admitting what he did?
Oz dresses in the tux and hat not necessarily to cosplay his Top Hat fantasies, but because he has to look squeaky clean and presentable for city hall. Its an act, though he would eventually forget he's acting.
Bro I hope they leave it at this. Reallly no need for a season 2. Congrats to everyone. Don’t risk tarnishing this masterpiece. Anyone with me on this?
Unless they somehow can make another great villain for Oz to go up against in Season 2 and make a plot where it would make sense, then yeah I am fine with no season 2.
“Most guys that come to me say they want money. That’s fine, but greed don’t buy loyalty. If I want loyalty, I bring in guys who are looking for a father. They got a void to fill. They’d do anything for me.” Vic was exactly the kind of person Rex was describing. I believe this was the true reason he chose to stay with Oz. The riches of the life were part of it, sure, but Oz was a father figure to him. Unlike all the other right-hands who killed their bosses, Vic would have been loyal to the end.
I love this show. The amount of emotion I felt within the last 10 minutes of that final episode was insane. I honestly felt for penguin and was rooting for him the whole show and then he kills Vic which completely turned that around. And then the episode finishes and now I hope Batman breaks him in the next movie.
This series was so good!. The fact that Calabrese also knew the truth was crazy. I know thats was why the mother was so broken. All that anger, disgust, sadness just bottled up for years. I would love more villian back stories with Matt Reeves.
I love the underlying writing in the show. Like when Sofia tells Oz “Oz the man of the ppl- you need to believe that huh” once he kills Vic you see he is the monster she calls him. Not a man of the Ppl
I can see Mr. Freeze being in Batman 2 to possible help the penguin with his mother. I love how we walked into the penthouse with his top hat in his hand. I did not think that he would kill Sofia Falcone. I was shocked to see him kill Victor. I guess he did not see him playing a part in is sick fantasy world that he is living in. Colin was great in this show.
I think its crazy how young oz almost pleads for his life at the club and reassures his mom he's going to give her everything she wants. That one convo made her call off rex from killing him. It makes me believe oz heard the convo between rex and his mom and schemed his way out of it. Would be cool, kind of a "I knew you knew all along." Maybe Oz is responsible for the death of Rex?
The speech that young Oz gave to his mom was just sick.. That was the kind of speech that you give a woman that you are trying to bag.. He has a serious Oedipus Complex..
I mean, Matt really meant it when he said we would hate the Penguin after this series 😭. Saying that if there was a way to do it justice I wouldn't mind this coming back for a season 2. R.i.p Vic, you deserved better!
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@@emergencyawesome I don’t think Oz loved his mother. He seemed insecure, narcissistic and obsessive. But he didn’t love her.
I wouldn't be surprised if oz will be one who turn harvey dent into two face.
Can’t wait to see Bruce coming back as a bigger menace in the Batman 2.
@@BluJae93what you up to
@@BluJae93I don’t think I’m gonna see it bro
The kid playing young Oz did a fantastic job. Absolutely nailing it
yeah
💯 all of the cast was unbelievable. Victor, Sofia, ect. It's just that Colin Farrell did such a great job, he kind of overshadows everyone else.
I watched the cast interview, and Penguin mom acted HAO all season but especially this episode
Little Nicky....
I swear they drive around Bensonhurst bk, and just listened to kids hanging out on corners and offered that kid the job 😂😂
After this series, The second Batman is better off being R rated
It has to be R rated
Absolutely! Especially the third Batman and if the rumors end up being true with The Joker as the main villain.
I wish this would happen. Especially now when The Penguin proved how much the lack of an R rating held the Batman movie back. Unfortunately they might go with the same rating as last time to market it to a bigger audience.
hopefully with the success of deadpool and wolverine
and how well this show did
they will decide to go with rated R
because honestly this show is better than The Batman lol
@@Twisteditupokay penguin was good but I wouldn’t go that far😂
His face while killing Vic was like a totally different person he literally transformed into his worst self.
Thats the trick: he was always his worst self
@@breach005 Amen, it was never "Vic and Oz"
Not Always as soon as he realised having close ones is a liability as he said in the scene @@breach005
A bitter sweet ending but it's only right that Oz off Vic in the end and becomes the real Penguin we're familiar with.
It’s the Tony soprano effect where just when you think Tony turned into his worst self, the more you realize upon rewatching that he was always like that.
This ending is a reminder for the viewers than Penguin is NOT an anti-Hero, he is a Villain with no redeemable quality in him.
I love this show, the Penguin become a character we all love to hate. RIP Victor.
Yeah that was the most cold blooded shit. But amazing writing. We finally get to see a show based on the progression of an actual villian instead of an anti-hero.
Marvel should have made Carnage dark and horrific like this as well. Cletus Kassady was an abused psychopath who murdered his own parents. It would have been great to see what happens when Evil connects to a symbiote
@@grinchoi1 Talk about Disney, there were fan who urge Disney to make 1 simple Star War Movie that would make them boat load of Money.
A movie named "Lord Vader". where Darth Vader relentlessly hunt down Jedi without Mercy.
RIP? Good riddance to that mutt. Actions have consequences. He should never have gotten involved in crime.
@@kleptosepto1848 this GOTTA be racist bruh
Pure Evil
batman better beat this man to a PULP 😭🙏
Nah he deserves to be alive for another two sequels
My man always do 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hit him with the cape stun and a series of 24 punches
Yea man. Colin Farrell was absolutely right about the end of show. "By the end of the show, you will really hate Oz by the end."
For Vic😢🙏🏼
Poor Victor he should have left with his girlfriend when he had a chance he would’ve been still alive.😢
bad choices lead to more bad choices and they add up .
He chose the game over being happy. "The game is the game, eventually you gon get got" -omar little
He was naive to the "game". He was just a regular good kid that lost everything. His only chance was to leave without notice & be clear across the country with his girl. He wanted to be honest and tell Oz he was leaving & that's when I think reality hit him."If I go now, I'll probably get followed & he'll kill both of us...eventually." He was dead as soon as he got caught trying to steal those rims!
That was his crossroad moment to get out but he chose power and death
he made a CHOICE
he chose to kill and he had to die
he should have left before he killed, then he would have stayed pure and lived
Moment of silence for Victor.
I hope you still alive and takes his revenge
Victor is dead
Victor lacked common sense and was swimming with sharks and thought they wouldn't eat him , he barely knew walt and thought he could trust a dude he saw betray people he was close to . I liked Victor but this was natural selection.
Walt? Wrong show brother 😂@@chronic5443
silence
Colin Ferrell deserves all the awards for playing the Penguin.
Man, they stuck the landing in such a big way. I saw the Vic scene coming but it still felt like 100 stab wounds. THAT'S how you do a Batman villain origin story, Todd Phillips 🙄
Same, I knew it was coming but I still couldn’t believe it. That neck crack was like danggggggggggg.
This show gaslit us so hard. Like you already forgot that Vic was basically conscripted by Penguin at gunpoint, who then turned him into a petty murderer like him. he never gave a shit about Vic, ever. He was just a tool, a resource, like anything else. Also just like Rex said "guys like that will do anything for me".
@@rongravy while the two of them were sat there talking I kept thinking, "OH MY GOD OZ, JUST DO IT ALREADY 😭"
@@wynonasbigbrowndragon6121I didn’t think that was gonna happen tbh.
@@uzii6540 i dont think oz planned to do it vic messed up saying family . thats when oz was like i got to do this
I dont think there should be a season 2.
One, because this was enough of a masterpiece to finish it here, and two we all truly hate the penguin now.
We kinda of rooted for Oz in this series, his relationship with Vic was almost like father and son and while he hadnt knifed Vic in the back I still wanted Penguin to win.
I would be hard to watch a season 2 where i just despise the central character for all 8 episodes.
I agree. I think season one did its job. Season two could ruin it.
I don't dink anyone wants to root for him anymore.
I don’t think there needs to be a season 2, but I would argue that hating Oz doesn’t mean there shouldn’t be. I absolutely despised Tony Soprano and I watched for all 6 seasons
yeah theres not rlly anymore story to tell
I actually agree. Unless they can get Batman into the show, I dont see how season 2 will be good.
Agreed, this to me was a bridge between the 2 Batman movies, setting up the main villain for Batman 2 perfectly
Everyone forgot Oz is a villain. No way Vic survived sadly
Remember that time Vic was in fact enslaved to help Oz at gunpoint just for fucking with his car? lol
Masterful show to take us through the journey of Oz gaslighting a fresh goon. His mentor Rex taught him to identify weak people to use like this.
We kind of knew Vic wouldn't be working with Oz, but I thought he would betray Oz for power. It would fail in the end though.
@@breach005He wasn't enslaved tho. Penguin literally gave him an opportunity to leave and he could have left and got on the bus with his GF. He chose to stay and saved penguins life which makes Vics death that much worse.
@@WillWilliams-vo4nk vic was no longer a good person he was killer looking for a aprroval just like penguin from his mother . he knows what he has become and callls vic a good guy almost like you dont deserve to become like me
@@redbrickhustla86 It was more about preventing another scenario like what happened with his mom. He actually loved Vic so Vic could have been used by someone to get at Penguin. So he decided to eliminate Vic before that could even happen.
So despicable what Oz did to Victor but that’s the true arc of a villain. I thought for sure that Eve was going out the window of the penthouse but she’s lucky she’s participating in Oz’s delusions. 😅 Looking forward to Sofia and Selina linking up. The Penguin is a fantastic series!
Exactly I didn't like that Vic died but it makes 100% sense to the Penguin's character, I would have been surprised if he didn't kill him.
He knows that she doesn't actually love him... that's really what saved her. That and his fetish
The most messed up thing to me is to me in this episode is that penguin killed Victor with his bare hands. He could have done it in a humane way, like shooting him in the head so it would've been quick, and Viktor wouldn't have known ultimate betrayal by someone he considered family. And he smiled in the end.
I hope he’s still alive and was just KO
Vic should not die by gun Vic love him more then his own mom
If you know about crimes being person and of passion, this was actually very spot on!
"you're a good guy, vic" while strangling him...
Though not like they had not telegraphed the entire time that that Oz is a bit of a scheming, manipulative, murderous turncoat and will do literally anything for power for his mothers approval, which he has to coerce against her will too...jesus lol. Vic is now a liability to his political career, just like that Vic is now John Doe in the losing war for Gotham. Entirely irredeemable to where now we realllly want to watch Batman dismantle this bastard lol. Masterful.
I predicted Oz to kill Vic by the end of the series from the moment they started working together, but I thought it was going to be by gunshot too. That was brutal. Imagine if he had drowned him instead, it kind of would've parallelled what happened to his family.
Somehow penguin knew something was going on with Rex in the club. He was able to talk his away out of it again with the “don’t give up on me yet” speech
Great observation!! I did not realize that, but you are exactly right.
If survival instinct was a mutant ability,Oz would be Omega Level.
I thought the same thing
@@lamontewilliams3011 no because we can assume he worked with rex after this and his mom called it off, he really just loved his mom that much
@@mahino420lol delusional take after all this u honestly think he’s capable of love?😂
What a great villian Arc for penguin
They can make one of these for the entire Rogues Gallery, fuck
@@breach005Yeah would love to see one for the Riddler
@ZeroRegretz possible villains roster origins:
Two- Face
Riddler
Professor Pyg
The Ventriloquist
Mr. Freeze
Poison Ivy
Bane
Hush
Firefly
Mad Hatter
Court of Owls 🦉
Matt Reeves better do this kind of Rogues Gallery, or we Freaking Riot 😂😂😂😅!!!*
The Penguin transformed when his mom told him the truth. There is a new level of evil in his eyes.
I like how Oz just becomes another carmine with the choking victor the scars on his hand when he kills victor like carmine and making Sofia a scape goat.
Brooooo...
🎯
Great catch. There are so many layers to this shows.
Carmin is Oz real father, he is Sophia half brother
"making Sofia a scape goat." bro she did kill all those people with that bomb though? Did you even watch the show ?
I've never wanted Batman to break his one rule for a member of his rouges gallery before. This episode changed that. Well done to the writers. They really made sure any feeling of wanting to see Oz succeed got washed away with this last episode. Brilliant.
This show is fucking phenomenal. One of the best shows of the year along with Shogun. One of the best comic book series of all time.
The Penguin is a fascinating, despicable character. Can't wait to see The Batman beat the living shit out of him in the next movie. Fucking A!
I was absolutely speechless after that finale. This series was crafted with such care, love, and respect. It's truly a near-perfect show.
He takes away Gru's title.
Notice how when young Oz says all those things to prove no one knows his mom better than him, he can’t even perceive the obvious disgusted look on her face. The whole time he only saw what he wanted to see.
They're both extremely delusional. Oz couldn't even admit the truth while his mom is about to lose a finger.
That scene was a flash back for his mum only. That is why she looks disgusted at him
Yeah
Bro you know how wicked you gotta be to make wilson fisk look like a saint☠️ I don’t wanna hype it up, but the parallel of Oz killing the one person on the planet who truly believed in him and loved him while still desperately clinging to his mother who hated him just so he can continue to crave her affection and approval was brilliant. I wondering why he kept eve alive and when he started talking to her it clicked. like truly great tv. dissapointed there was no batman cameo but the show was so strong without it that we didn’t need it, im just looking at bruce crazyyy cause he let everything happen😭
I’d love to see this show get some awards acknowledgement, very compelling
It was a great finale!
Wilson Fisk at least cares about people
@@jayyy1677He cares about Vanessa and that's it
In the movie Bruce said, "It’s a big city, I can’t be everywhere.” This is a very realistic take on Batman, especially for one who just started & probably doesn't have any form of air transportation yet, it's tough to just drive everywhere. The end of the Penguin series even shows how huge Gotham is, look how far Oz's penthouse is from the Bat signal. Imo since Pattinson wasn't the Bruce Wayne we're all familiar with & he was neglecting the Wayne business in the first film, I feel like he's probably busy putting an effort into finally doing Bruce Wayne stuff during this series. Imo, that would be a solid explanation. Then in the next film, they wouldn't have to go through the whole "Bruce Wayne" transformation, which was already done in Nolan's Batman Begins, we don't really need to see it again (like Bruce's parent's death scene or Spiderman's origin, etc.).
yeah fr i hoope they give them awards!
As soon as Vic said he was like family I knew it was over but it was still gut wrenching to see that. What a heartless monster.
I made a joke before it happened saying, "We know how Penguin feels about family" then he killed him
I believe that Sofia is the reason to get Selina return to gotham
Selina Kyle is 100% going to break Sofia out of the pokey
@@breach005that episode gonna be soooo tuff !!!
@@zackfair4075movie show is done sadly
@@zackfair4075 You mean movie???
Cat women!!!
The Best thing about this show...and there was a lot of of great things...is they showed the Pengin as a Villain. Not an ati-hero or misunderstood vitcim, but a full blown, no redemption, pure evil Villain!
Something Disney marvel fail to do most of the time
I yelled “Noooooo” when he started choking Vic. Can’t wait til Batman puts paws and feet on him.
Batman has paws?
This show was so good. Oz off'ing Victor was Oz tying up loose ends, it goes back to the airport hangar scene when you see the right hand man killing the leaders of the gangs. Oz explained to Sofia how all those guys were hungry and came from nothing, Oz could see that Vic was practically becoming like him and the cycle of betrayal would just repeat itself. Oz did love Vic like family though.
I feel like its both tying up loose ends and getting rid of a weakness. Oswald's mother is one of his weaknesses as Sofia was able to hold her captive to get to him and mentally torment him. Oswald was starting to care for Vic like family so Vic could have been another weakness for his enemies to use against him if he'd care for him a lot and he knows if he wants to rule Gotham, he can't have any weaknesses. But I def feel like its correlated with how the other right hands were killing their leaders too since its not just a coincidence that was shown right before Penguin kills Vic.
I never thought of that - pretty much the show was entirely about lieutenants taking out their bosses for supremacy. Oz nullifying that threat early.
That mother shit with the mom was WERID ASF
Yep!
Real mommy issues
Yeah
21:55 It’s clearly a depiction of the Oedipus complex, and more obvious it becomes when you discover that the name Oedipus means “swollen feet”-a direct reference to Oz’s condition.
That's a good one
Cristin Milioti delivers a whole lot of acting with just those lovely, half-crazy, big brown eyes of hers.
The only clip about is insane
Her acting was absolutely brilliant this season, I think we can all agree Colin Farrell is fantastic too, but she’s got such a range of subtle tics and playful expressions in her scenes, that she always seems just about to snap, or just relishing something evil, yet somehow actually sympathetic even when she kills her family? Honestly she chews the scenery in every scene she’s in but never over-acts in a cheesy way, just the perfect blend of psycho fun for a villain like that.
The ending actually felt horrifying to me. In my mind, him with the mother at the top floor felt like he had propped up, almost a doll/corpse/simulacra of his mother in front of the window, to convince himself he realised -her dream- his promise of getting her a penthouse at the top floor.
Colin Ferrell killed it as Penguin. He's up there with Danny Devitos' nightmare enducing Penguin on my top list. My empathy for him fizzled out last week when we learned why his brothers are gone, and now, I wouldn't p**s on him if he was on fire. I spent most of the scene where Sophia was going to take his moms finger if he didn't admit what he done behind my blanket. All of the actors were great, but Colin deserves an award for his portrayal. I really hope someone drops Vic in the Lazarus pit.
I'm Irish ☘️ I knew Colin would be amazing as 🐧 hopefully another Irish actor Barry Keoghan will be a great Joker 🃏 when the time comes.
I highly doubt Reeves will add something like the Lazarus pit to his grounded universe
Better
Devito’s penguin was goofy sl, “nightmare enducing”? Lmfaoo plz
@@S.D._777_ He's 10 times better than that Penguin
This series was Epic, and the actors and writers deserves the awards...wow hoping a sequel happens
I was hoping he wouldn’t kill Vick. He was a great character but also a great partner. Crazy that he killed him
But then again he did let his brothers die
@@jaychulo.Fyeah but you need someone who is loyal someone willing to get their hands dirty
I guess he had to in the end.. he wants to ascend the ladder and mix in with the politicians n all so i guess k1ll1ng Victor was him making that step from Crime boss to KING. And the Crime King always has his fingers in the local government and police..
@@jamilbarbee6169 Vic knew to much about him to let him live.
They did a good job on making us like both Oz and Vic as a duo but then they reminded us that Oz is the villain and there were no exceptions. Such a great show!
It’s like the writers got worried we were starting to like penguin and had to remind us he’s human garbage
Break my hearts knowing probably wont ever identifying vic since oz threw his ID away and he doesn't have any family.
Insult to injury just erasing him from existence. But that really drives home that Oz has elevated into a real monster. Whatever care he may have had for Vic vanished the moment he corrupted Gotham's elite and has a new pathway to power. The sick thing is that Oz knows Vic has a good heart, which is why he also knows he's a liability to his political career as a snitch later.
@@vaderstarI was thinking that this whole time. They could always change their mind and just let him be dead but this is definitely setting up victor zsasz.
@@uzii6540if he somehow survives which I know many of us want. come back
What if the beginning of the next Batman movie starts with Commissioner Gordon/Batman somehow finding his ID in the lake…
Vic drivers permit will be found in the batman and somehow link back to the penguin
*The actor who played Victor should be cast as Miles Morales*
Yes.
Nothing will stand in his way and the bat signal shows' up bad ass
I never cheered so much for a finale. I'm like "batman finna whoop dat ass!!"
That opening scene in theaters better be loud asf. Robert Pattison better thank Matt reeves choosing him as Batman
I've been saying Oz's code is BACKSTABBING people
What masterpiece of a a finale
It was a great finale!
Nahhh it needs 3 hours long for finale.
Can’t believe he killed Vic after he saved him so many times?
They should not do a season 2 and just do the Batman movie. However, another villain tv show would be good.
Yup. It's the perfect way to do another villain origin for batman 3.
Agree. There is zero need to develop the Penguin character anymore outside of him being in a movie as full on Penguin or a cameo in another series. The ending with him killing Vic cemented him as being pure evil. A season two series would take away from a perfect ending to the series.
Harvey Dent limited Series
They need to start slowly incorporating more characters in and make it the DC cinematic universe
They should do a Mr. Freeze tv show as the next villain
🐧”nothing is standing in your way”… 🦇 “ hold my beer”
R-I-P Vic
What I love with the letter from Selina it giving family members coming out the wood to get there financial cut lol. Selina will now takes the money that Sofia will obviously not have access to.
Its going to be cathartic seeing oz get utterly beaten by batman in the future oz definitely thinks hes unbeatable now 😂.
"I wanna see the Penguin"
Looking forward to both Bruce Wayne and Batman delivering a smackdown
I feel like that’s another reason for this show…. I mean how many times have we seen a marvel or even dc movie where they introduce a villain and he can be cool or flashy but that satisfaction in their defeat is just NEVER there… I can’t wait to see Batman beat the everlasting sh** out of the penguin.
“Nothings standing in your way” just as the bat signal shines
Callback to the movie where Bruce says the signal isn’t a call but a warning
Until he becomes Mayor...
Shogun and The Penguin, the best shows of 2024 and now part of the best TV shows in history. What a year!
This has got to be the greatest live action comic book TV series ever. I know most fans of geek fandom want to complain and be cynical for the sake of being cynical these days but if someone says this series sucked, then they’re complaining to complain. There wasn’t one episode that was filler every episode meant something. The writing, the acting, the cinematography for this series was just all on point. This show was flawless.
Lindelof's _Watchmen_ ranks way up there as well.
@@cacogenicistWatchmen the TV show was a double scoop of DOG SHIT compared to this.
I now have 100% confidence they can do something cool (heh) with Mr Freeze and other more fantastical villains like that. The Penguin in this is a smart mix of Al Capone and like the Tony Stark of bullshit.
Daredevil, Punisher, Watchmen, and now
The Penguin.
Top class TV shows
@@tommyshelby2787 The Penguin and The Watchmen. Top Class T.V shows
Sofia and Selena absolutely need to have their own series. Whether that's as sisters together *or* as rival sisters. Either way works for me.
That's how you make a great villian's origin story. The perfect build up I've ever seen in entertainment history. This is undoubtedly the greatest tv show I've ever seen. If it was movie it'd have easily swipe so many Oscars. Masterful Writing, Direction, Amazing Performance by all cast, visually stunning as per a tv show, it felt so realistic. HBO make Masterpiece.
If you're already on the HBO train and enjoyed Penguin, definitely check out the Sopranos. It will blow your fuckin mind. Honestly I believe there were a lot of things in this show specifically patterned after that- and that's not a bad point at all.
The actor who played Vic would be a great casting choice for live action Miles Morales. He showed so much range and I would love to see him in more leading roles. I think he could play Miles perfectly.
“ Nothing is standing in your way now” meanwhile Jim and Batman “ you sure about that?”
this performance makes me think Collin Farrell could play Penguin , Joker, Bane , Ras Al Gul and prolly even poison Evy all in the same movie and somehow make it work... his face change in killing Vic was insane...
Lmao poison ivy
What a series, the suspense, twists, and character development were all top-notch!
Last time felt like this about a comic book series is Season 1 of the flash
10 out of 10 season 1.
Amazing writing.
Questions asked , questions answered ....
The fact were getting this level commitment opens up sooooo many opportunities for this series.
Just hopefully they contract the actors to the role and we get this level of performance in season 2.
Colin nailed this as he always does.
Great review bro
The Penguin is not the anti-hero we were hoping for; he’s pure evil, as the last two episodes have shown. We can only hope he dies after what he did to Vic, but the guy has Rey “Skywalker” levels of plot armor lol
Yeah, just when you started feeling, again, like maybe Oz really could be a halfway human, sort of father figure -- BOOM, nope. Pure psychopath.
Im happy they slammed it into the ground that Oz is a HUGE PIECE OF SHIT. He was never an anti-hero, we really could have rooted for any player in this mob war lol they're all wretched criminals and killers worthy of a visit from Batboots. Its actually refreshing in a way to see a show where the villain actually wins. And completely wins. The power vacuum Batman and Riddler helped create has allowed Oz to rise, and hell have to take responsibility for that as both Bruce Wayne and Batman
i dont think anyone was hoping for that lolol
Only morons were hoping for a well know villain to be a hero
The fuck are you going on about you fucking idiot
The way I interpreted the ending with his mom, was that Oswald knew she was unhappy. He knew she wanted to die. But I think what she said to him actually DID get through to him, even if he was in denial at first. So that's his 'punishing' her by basically flaunting it in her face that she got everything she wished for, but also everything she deserved.
I feel so bad for ozs mum at the end. She’s living her worst life
she deserves it she created the monster and it turned on her
she didnt want to kill him
@redbrickhustla86 created a . monster
Bro seriously,a child is a fucking child,no way a MOTHER could kill her own
Deserved
@@BavA_GaminGchildren can be monsters you know that right lmao. Not every child is innocent. Feed the flame don’t cry when it becomes an out of control forest fire
I really respect they didnt make Penguin a anti hero
I really hope they don't make a season 2. This was perfect. We don't need any more.
True 100% with you....imagine them trying to recreate all the feeling circle we went through this episode....not possible
Agreed.
Wow, I just binge watch the Penguin by accident and this show was great! I was only suppose to watch one episode and get caught up later but I couldn't stop watching it. The penguin character is a master piece of a true villain. The ending was fantastic. I hope they do a season 2.
This show better win awards
Was anyone else screaming at the t.v for vic to bottle 🍾 the penguin and run
If Sofia comes back in The Batman Part 2, it would be cool to have a scene in a similar setting to the one between Batman and Riddler at Arkham, in which she tells him that Selina told her to reach out to him and reveals what the Penguin has done during the series
Oz lost everything on the way up. Including what's left of his sanity.
This is the best show in 2024 the cast the crew , production design exploring more Gotham criminal underworld truly a masterpiece
It’s crazy how badly I wanted a season 2, until episode 8.
“Stabby thoughts”
Francis was a great character. Knowing she knew about what Oz did, it brings more depth to the earlier episode when she said “if my son is a nobody then what does that make me” or something along those lines.
Lots of tragic ends in this show.
Edit: also, Sophia’s outfits this episode was just so🔥. Her black dress with the red scarf as the accent, and her final red outfit where she didn’t cover the scars on her neck because she felt free from here trauma.
The "She'll never look at me the same" then sudden tone shift of "if I dont get this done" in his conversation with Victor was interesting to me.
RIP Victor this was a great series Thanks Charlie
Thanks!
I have some theories about vic that might be reaching but just hear me out...
1: He might be Jason Todd in reverse. He's betrayed by the penguin just like Jason Todd thought that the Batman betrayed him. He "dies" working for a villain and comes back working for a hero
2: there's a lot of symbolism and some of the episodes.
We see him driving into a tunnel on a motorcycle just like the Batman. And he's caught stealing the rims from the penguins car just like jason tried doing to Batman. I think the shot of Oz throwing the Vics card into the water is symbolism for vic being reborn.
3. Although the penguin chokes vic, i don't think vic is dead. Passed out maybe but not dead. He may come back wanting revenge just like jason wanted revenge with the Batman.
Vics character was too well written for him to be a throw away character for the penguin to just screw over and kill. Every character in this show has a bigger purpose in this universe.We need a robin in this universe and it needs to be victor🙏🏾
Could he be victor zsasz when reborn
@@Rayver86My thoughts exactly! 💯 He was too great of a character to be offed like that.
You gotta learn to cope
@@Rayver86 lol I'm working on it
I’m probably reaching here, but Julian Rush was giving me huge Madhatter vibes the whole time
Oswalds mother going "down the rabbit hole" was a huge hint for me.
Where did Julian disappear to in the end scene? Did he know penguin was going to turn the tides? Also I thought he quit arkham? 🤔
@@yoitsnestor4671 he took his old job back
I like this theory !
or he became scarecrow
Thought the finale was one of the best I’ve seen maybe ever. Just the way they did beginning with the flashbacks and trying to reveal what Oz had did but kept us from knowing snd then ending with oz becoming his true self by killing the “last” family member. Brilliant!
20:41 the gunbrella is needed cuz it's iconic!!!!
Very well done and informative
Thank you!
I just love the fact manstream audiences now see penguin the way we always have
Also us having to see victor get taken out like a dumb bitch but we didnt get to see julian rush get beat to death really sucks. I hate julians character
Turns out the real Penguin was the friends that were wacked along the way 🐧
Ya gonna get moided.
Makes sense
Remember we're not supposed to like him .... Killing Vic reminded us again
It really took until then? Seriously? Lolol not when he killed both of his brothers or when he allowed his mother’s finger to be cut off instead of just admitting what he did?
Vic ain’t dead..he’s gonna be back as Cyborg in the next JL movie
lol
Wait a minute….
Part of me believes Vic isn’t dead that he faked it.
@@loganwaldron7108how lmao
@@loganwaldron7108whos dealing you that prime ass copium
Oz dresses in the tux and hat not necessarily to cosplay his Top Hat fantasies, but because he has to look squeaky clean and presentable for city hall. Its an act, though he would eventually forget he's acting.
RIP Victor, you are a great character
He killed Vic with his hands because it was personal and didn't want to shoot him because he loved him.
Mate, Oz didn't love Vic. I think it was pretty clear by now that Oz only loves himself. A true narcissistic psychopath.
Bro I hope they leave it at this. Reallly no need for a season 2. Congrats to everyone. Don’t risk tarnishing this masterpiece. Anyone with me on this?
He'll be in batman 2
@@chasingclouds3360lol you don’t get what he’s saying
Unless they somehow can make another great villain for Oz to go up against in Season 2 and make a plot where it would make sense, then yeah I am fine with no season 2.
“Most guys that come to me say they want money. That’s fine, but greed don’t buy loyalty. If I want loyalty, I bring in guys who are looking for a father. They got a void to fill. They’d do anything for me.”
Vic was exactly the kind of person Rex was describing. I believe this was the true reason he chose to stay with Oz. The riches of the life were part of it, sure, but Oz was a father figure to him. Unlike all the other right-hands who killed their bosses, Vic would have been loyal to the end.
Emmys for makeup, Colin, Cristin, cinematography…I could on and on. Such a well made series from top to bottom. 🐧 🦇
I love this show. The amount of emotion I felt within the last 10 minutes of that final episode was insane. I honestly felt for penguin and was rooting for him the whole show and then he kills Vic which completely turned that around. And then the episode finishes and now I hope Batman breaks him in the next movie.
Colin's expression allows the audience to know, that Vic isnt making it out of this scene.
This series was so good!. The fact that Calabrese also knew the truth was crazy. I know thats was why the mother was so broken. All that anger, disgust, sadness just bottled up for years.
I would love more villian back stories with Matt Reeves.
2:11 no honor among thieves
Oswald Cobb...man of the people
More like man of evil😂
Justice for Vic
I love the underlying writing in the show. Like when Sofia tells Oz “Oz the man of the ppl- you need to believe that huh” once he kills Vic you see he is the monster she calls him. Not a man of the Ppl
"Man of the People" sounds like a good Mayoral Campaign slogan... *wink*
I can see Mr. Freeze being in Batman 2 to possible help the penguin with his mother. I love how we walked into the penthouse with his top hat in his hand. I did not think that he would kill Sofia Falcone. I was shocked to see him kill Victor. I guess he did not see him playing a part in is sick fantasy world that he is living in. Colin was great in this show.
I was thinking it would be cool if Mr freeze was a crime lord jeweler or something lol idk
@@RocNMaynehahaha 😂 Mr. Freeze is DCs Johnny Dang
Kind of Ironic that Oz kills Vic and Mr Freeze first name is Victor.
I think its crazy how young oz almost pleads for his life at the club and reassures his mom he's going to give her everything she wants. That one convo made her call off rex from killing him. It makes me believe oz heard the convo between rex and his mom and schemed his way out of it. Would be cool, kind of a "I knew you knew all along." Maybe Oz is responsible for the death of Rex?
I'm going with he didn't know. Even if he did and talked his way out like he always does, It's good storytelling. Two liars trapped in their own web.
I can't wait for more Colin Farrell Penguin in The batman part 2 and 3
The speech that young Oz gave to his mom was just sick.. That was the kind of speech that you give a woman that you are trying to bag.. He has a serious Oedipus Complex..
been waiting o your finale breakdown all night
I hope that they do more spin offs! This series was great!
I mean, Matt really meant it when he said we would hate the Penguin after this series 😭. Saying that if there was a way to do it justice I wouldn't mind this coming back for a season 2. R.i.p Vic, you deserved better!