Which turtle wax spray coating should you buy… if any?
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- Опубліковано 29 жов 2022
- Today we’re looking at a selection of turtle wax spray protection products, ranging from their flagship Graphene infused flex wax, all the way down to their entry level Express shine carnauba spray wax. How much money should you invest into a turtle wax spray protection product, and what will that investment yield? Watch the video to find out!
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S&S is the GOAT.
Yes, seal & shine is a great value sealant. It’s more of a base layer sealant, though. It’s meant to be topped with the Ice Spray Wax, which is more of a pure wax/gloss topper. The idea is to seal w/ S&S every few months, but the spray wax can be used after every wash, if desired. Both is the ICE products used together as a team are still cheaper than the more expensive all-in-one ceramic/grapheme sprays.
There also differences in use cases. IMO the best feature of Flex wax it’s not so much that it’s the best or longest lasting sealant or wax (tho it’s good as an all in one), but that it has “flexible” use cases. Hence the name. It can be used like a spray on and buff off wax on dry panels. Or it can be used as a drying aid, sprayed on wet panels. Or it can be used as a spray on, rinse off water activated product for fastest application. It’s its own niche, really if you need that kind of flexibility.
The bottle states that ice spray wax can be added for further gloss and protection, but doesn’t say it’s intended to be used with it as a 2 part system. It’s good they work together, but it’s not a requirement.
Flex wax does have a lot of application options which is a benefit for end users, but most people have found that seal and shine also can be used on wet cars as a drying aid with minimal impact to its performance. As with most wet application products, a dry application is always yields the best results assuming it can be used dry also.
@@sheepstardetail yes, I agree with all of that 👍
I did a 2-day double coat of TW Ceramic and topped it with Flex wax and have a glorious shine and tight, tight, tight beading experience. That said I only paid $10 for the Flex wax at AutoZone on clearance and the cost was minimal so I do get where you're coming from on the MSRP for Flex wax. Way too high but a good product if used as a topper or a spray and wax.
I liked #6 the best... Made it darker and gave it that warm depth look.
Ceramic spray is the one for me, makes my 13 year old car look as good as a new one, really shines and beads lovely, genuinely impressive to look at it for the minimum effort.
I used them all and to me Seal and Shine is the best of all of em and the best value . The Flex has to be applied very sparingly as it will smear up big time.
Yeah I would agree. The bang for buck factor plus ease of use means reapplying seal n shine 1-2 months earlier not a huge deficit when comes to application hassle or cost.
Great comparison.
Thanks man!
You should patent this mystery panel method :) The Lustre was a neat trick. Interesting findings and thoughts, thanks.
It helps remove biases. Some people don’t like it but when you have a product category that has a lot of competition, it really brings things back into perspective.
I use the seal and shine and i think it works amazing i love it. Seems to last the summer months with just one application
Seal n shine is good for 2-3 months of reasonable performance. Not bad at all for what it is.
These waxes are about the same price of a dozen of eggs. I like the Flex.
I got confused. Panel 1 was product 4? Product 1 was panel 3? Would be really cool if you place your taped panel with the names of each wax or simply place your spray wax behind the section in which it was applied . Lastly, I think you're right. Seal and Shine to me is the best. I've used the first generation and it delivered big time! I've even placed it on my windows and to be honest, I think it would outlast Rain X.
Over all, thanks for the detailed info.
PS. Thanks for the update. I fully understand the logic, now
Thanks for watching! The point of keeping the products and panels mixed up is that you don’t know which section is which product. This removes any form of bias from the viewer and let’s the results and performance speak for itself. I know it’s not what you’re used to, but a lot of people will shrug off the performance of a good product simply because they don’t like the brand. I don’t always do this, but when you have large price deltas between products it helps to remove that information so you focus solely on the performance instead of the price tag or brand.
@@sheepstardetail gotcha! Thanks again!
Great comparison! I've used SnS for years and it was my go to. Price is great, easy to use and does a great job protecting. About four years ago, I tried Hybrid Solutions. I was immediately impressed and it became my new go to! It's about $15 a bottle here in CA, so for the money it's great. Also, I apply wax on sunny days (I know, I know) and it doesn't streak. I tried Graphene a couple years ago. I was expecting an improvement and I feel Hybrid Solutions does a better job. Graphene also gets streaky when applied in the sun and it's hard to get off.
Someone gave me a bottle of Mother's CMX. Definitely not as easy to apply, I think the slickness isn't as good and it doesn't last as long as Hybrid Solutions.
SNS is a great product overall, especially the new version with tighter water beads and I think easier buff off. I found that ceramic spray was no better in application or gloss, and beading was better on SNS V2.
CMX is actually supposed to be applied then left to haze for 30-60 seconds before buffing. Try that out if you can, it is much easier to use when done that way. I think my bottle has officially gone off as it didn’t last even 2 weeks without a wash, which wasn’t the case in the past.
Have tried Flex, Ceramic, and Seal & Shine. You can't go wrong with Seal and Shine.
Nice Video mate! I`d love to see the Same with Sonax :D PNS; BSD; CSC; CSD. Your style of test is awesome, thanks for the video
Thanks man! I still need to grab the Sonax Ceramic spray detailer, I’m almost out of BSD as well.
@@sheepstardetailIts not lasting long the ceramic detailer, but the Gloss is crazy and its soo easy to use!
@@peterplumsklo5365 some testers have diluted the CSD and say gloss is still high as full strength CSD, any one here has that experience ?
@@gaferoz CSD gloss is insane, so I can see that being propable, but I have never Diluted it. At 12€ a bottle it is cheap enough to just use as is
Which one is the best for harsh summers and rains? I'm talking temperatures touching 45 degrees celsius. Which of these would give me the most ease of application and longevity in that kind of heat? I'm not a beading junkie, just need good UV and elements protection.
Honestly I can’t saw for sure. Overall it seems flex has the longest real world legs. I rarely see temps about 35*C and when I do, it’s dry as a bone, so I can’t realistically test in that environment. What I will say is for the cost of flex plus a bit extra, something like Cquartz lite is a far better option. It has a simple application (on and off, no flashing/waiting required), can be exposed after only 4 hours of cure, and works on top of mothers CMX ceramic polish and wax as a primer (which polishes, fills, and preps in one).
Flex wax has great durability for me, and I live in an area that has harsh winters.
It’s not bad, probably the best TW product in real world durability. I have it and a few other graphene products going on the hood still and Nu finish graphene is still doing really well after almost 5 months.
Just bought a used pearl white SUV with 10k miles. The paint seems pretty smooth and the water beads nicely but no sheeting. The is parked outside 100% of the time. I wanted to try the TW Graphene Flex. What do I need to do to prepare the paint? Wash, decontaminate, clay, polish, wax then top with TW Graphene Flex? Are all these steps necessary? Thx.
You don’t need to wax if you’re going to apply the Flex wax, it will fill that role. Normally the process is wash, decon, clay, polish, panel wipe then wax/seal/coat etc. for panel wipe you can buy one from a detailing company or make your own using isopropyl alcohol (99%) mixed 5:1 with water (5 parts water, 1 part IPA). This will help what ever wax/sealant you choose bond. Note that coatings *require* a panel wipe prior to application, and it’s best to use a proper non-homemade product as they are far more finicky than sealants and waxes. Mothers makes a polish and coating primer in one that doesn’t need to be panel wiped after removal and it should work with the FLEX wax (though I haven’t personally tried it).
decon, clay, polish even on a fairly new vehicle? I'm fine it that is what is required I just didn't want to do more damage diminishing the factory clear coat if it was not necessary.
@@scottstringer3060 it’s best practice. You want to remove any previously applied products and nothing will do that 100% except for polish.
Volume is very slow pls volume increase the sistam thanks
Nice comparison. I’ve really been liking that ceramic spray lately, and it’s not much more than seal and shine and I find the hydrophobics hold up a bit better.
Interesting, where I live seal and shine is a better value ($15 vs 25-30 depending where you buy).
@@sheepstardetail in Canada here it is $15 for seal and shine, $21 for ceramic spray. Not a huge difference unless you go through a lot of it. So whichever performs better to me is the winner.
I just found seal and shine died out quick in winter weather. So I think local conditions play a huge factor in which one is best for everyone.
@@jayhoughton558 yeah, it depends where you buy for sure. Online you can find CSC for less than $25 but then you’d have to factor in shipping. Canadian tire has it for around $25-26 so I went with $25 as a baseline average.
@@sheepstardetail $21 at Walmart in store :)
@@jayhoughton558 I think I’ve seen that before. Thanks!
Nobody will wait 24 hours to apply second coat? Have you met an auto detail enthusiast? They will do that and much more to attain desired results.
Maybe you weren’t around when this came out…. But nearly every comment on the product from UA-cam to forums was… I don’t want to wait 24 hours, especially for a spray sealant with 4 months durability.
I'm not doing another coat after 24 hrs. There will be dust on it.
Flex
Nice video
Thanks man! I try!
What will happen if you put the graphene flex wax in matte paint? Does it will have white residue?
I’m not sure, I don’t see anything online saying yes or no. I’ll read my bottle later when I have a moment and let you know.
I apply on matte decals on my Mach 1. No white residue. Some streaking, but not enough to bother me. Less streaking if sprayed on very wet surface…. So maybe use as rising aid.
Why would you want to wax a matte finish factory paint job? Its designed to look like a car that NEEDS a new paint job.
Did you let it cure first?
Yep, all products were given 2 weeks to cure.
@@sheepstardetail Thanks!
how would u let it cure? i really dont have any clue
Not sure about these prices. Just bought Flex wax for $22
Canadian, same seller as well. Deal can be had and the US is cheaper, but this is the general price for these in Canada.
I got 2 bottles of flex and a gallon of wash direct from turtle wax $45
Turtle wax doesn’t sell direct in Canada, which makes the pricing far less competitive.
littel correction Graphene is 25$ :)
Not in Canada!
I had my volume turned all the way up and could barely hear you.
Yeah I’m working on it. I don’t have a Lav. Mic so if I move around the pick up from my shotgun mic is not great.
Watching this I don't have an understanding of your strange numbering system, your bottles are all over the place and dno't match in order your test sections, not keeping it all straight forward in a row to match those panels. So I came away from this with no useful information. You show 4 bottles, then they are backwards, then you pick up some other bottle and put it into the mix somewhere in the middle as the best but expensive choice, then it goes away. Then some panel goes up to number 6, this vid is mind numbing.
You should listen to what I say in the video instead of skipping around. The numbers are used for blind testing - you’re not supposed to know what product is on what section, it’s down that way to remove favouritism and bias. The numbers are there so I can keep track of what product is what without putting their name next to them. Rematch the video, it will make sense. I also changed some of the products in the comparisons based on the conditions of the test and the attributes of the product. In the gloss test I put in a product with extremely high gloss, but I didn’t need it for chemical resistance as it was strong there.
Why not put the name of the product on the tape instead of number ??? Useless video
Look up blind testing, it’s done intentionally.
Take away all information except for the performance and you will judge the products without and preconceived bias.
Ahhhh ok i see lol ❤
Joke?
Oh, uhhh.
A man walks into a bar and says ouch.
Okay! Carnauba wax is good, reliable, old fashion but outdated. You said Hybrid Solution is your #1 pick, but price-wise and performance Seal n Shine is your go-to! Graphene is still experimental and too expensive. So what was the point of Sonax? Cost less than the Hybrid Solution and works just as good. You are comparing Turtle Wax products but you are all in on the SONAX as your own personal preference. I have never heard of Sonax. I like Maquiars Gold Class Carnauba Wax and still use it also I use Turtle Wax Hybrid Solutions Ceramic. For a quick shine, I use Turtle Wax Ice spay wax for a fast spray-on and wipe detailing. Interior detailing use 303 Aerospace Protectant and 303 Automotive Leather 3 in 1 Complete Care. So, many products for keeping your vehicle in showroom condition but many do more harm than good. Do your homework, and car preparation is key, and experiment a little until you find a product that gives you desired results and satisfaction. Automotive Manufacturers are changing the materials they use in car production so what use to work may not work on newer cars. Mercedes, Ford, Toyota, Maserati, and Chevrolet use different stock and make of plastics and PAINTS. No two cars from different automakers are alike. Sorry, factory auto paint used in production is cheap and of poor quality. Scratches, Dings, Dents, Swirls, Chips, and Flakes in your vehicle paint will forever be more common and noticeable today than it was 10 to 50 years ago. If you can afford it, have your whole car repainted inside and out with Quality paint and a clear coat and the difference will be extremely noticeable. Just like buying a car today that a $100,000 car will always look more premium than that $99K or less car.
Remember, we are paying for computerized technology and gadgets that are only bound to malfunction and fail as we pay more for a car than they are actually worth. For example, a car MSRP of $50K is actually worth $25K, or that $100K, in reality, is only worth $50K. You're paying mostly for Electronic garbage, plastic, aluminum, and glass. One auto accident and your Auto Insurance company deem your car totaled. The insurance rate goes up, you lose money on your vehicle and have to buy a new vehicle that cost more, probably the APR is higher too. Overall, you are out of luck and more in debt. Oh! car paint is water-based, eco-friendly, sprayed on in super thin layers, and done cheaply. This is why you need a professional auto paint shop to do your car properly.