Both seal n shine and ceramic coating were fully cured for over 48 hours, with the exception of the far right side of the panel where stated instant sure. Will you be picking up the new hybrid solutions ceramic spray coating?
Hey Jimbo, on my car parked outside in the elements, it feels like seal and shine breaks up after only a couple of weeks. Has this been your experience? I'm not sure if it's the UV's....I'd be very interested in seeing a test after 2 weeks of both products under the sun.
no....jury is still out. I am glad I didn't pull the trigger yet via amazon on this hybrid line....so far it definitely has not lived up to the hype. waiting for brian(apex detail's review) he can measure gloss enhancement. I use U, BRIAN, FORENSIC, FAB, PAN and others to get a good perspective.... I tinker now that I am retired....correct that...brian has turned me into a product junkie..lol.. Jason at Chi Auto Pro's did both of my jag vanden plas...05 liquid silver and 07 cranberry mica...a few yrs ago and I have been bit by the detail bug ever since....look forward to your videos....well done. hope u will consider the test I mention in comments
I have used both TW products and very pleased with both of them. Seal and Shine came out before the ceramic coating and I was very pleased with how it worked on my truck. Granted the scent of Seal and Shine was not the best, reminded me of a hair product but it worked very well. Then I tried the ceramic spray coating and I kind of liked it better for the ease of application and the shine it left. In fact, I did a second coating the next day and I was blown away by the shine that it leaves on my truck. It really catches my eye when I go into the garage and look at my truck. I swear its glossier and has a wet look that lasts longer than I expect. Hands down for me, ceramic coating spray is the better of the two. Durability is a toss up between the two, they are both good, maybe it comes down to price of each product.
Here’s my recent review. I purchased this last year in June while at the auto parts store getting products to do a last minute detail on my mustang before autocross and car show on father’s day weekend. I did not properly apply because I was in a rush and I can tell you that wash was the last time I washed it until last week when it was time to bring it back out. Car sat in the elements the entire time as well as a few drives during the winter when the roads were clear enough. As I was washing the car I was confused as to why the water was beading so much and I had completely spaced that I used this hybrid ceramic spray that day last June. Bought the product as an “eh why not” and now it’s all I’ll ever use. Quick and is as well as offers great protection especially if properly applied. 10/10 - weekend warrior detailer
Great video! Something to note - the Seal n Shine technically had two coats per its directions, whereas the Ceramic version would need a coat, 24 hr cure time, then another coat, then another 24 hrs to have the same number of applications. It could be argued that this test was two coats of Seal n Shine vs one of Ceramic. There are pros and cons to that, I guess.
Hello thank you for your comments and work I have used turtle ceramic spray coating twice and then I went over the top with seal and shine very impressed with the results thank you from sussie fan cheers
After using both products extensively I can tell you one thing, the Turtle Wax Ceramic spray coating has way higher gloss and shine. And even more durability than seal & shine. Or at least the same. The self-cleaning properties in the Ceramic spray coating keep the vehicle much cleaner than the seal & shine when it's raining or snowing.
I am a professional car painter for the last 50 years I have used or try to use the ceramic spray on my black Mustang. I didn't particularly care for it. It worked me pretty hard to get the smear removed. I tried to apply at all different kind of ways. It was just really tough to remove it. I like the seal and shine.
I haven't had streaking issues at all when using the seal and shine also. Im curious how to get it to streak, meaning is using it in a wrong way create the streaks. Im sorry not trying to have go at Jimbo at all.
@@jhndijkman it can streak in hot places i.e. deserts, tropics. But its easily fixeable. just add a few drops of water onto the paint. seal and shine doesnt really bond to paint so it doesnt matter.
Thanks Jimbo, Seal and Shine for me all day long. I use it on my black car and it works great. I don’t think the new stuff is any better and plus u have to wait 24 hours for cure time. Seal and Shine Wins !
Well here's my $. 02 from a light color car owner... I have 2 Mineral White Bimmers and have very little streaking that quite honestly would be invisible to most. So I consider "streaking" a non issue. The smell isn't fruity but it ain't funky either. ICE Seal n Shine is simply the Best performance value in car detailing, period! I did pre-order 2 products from their new line just to try/compare. 👍🏽 Great job as usual.
I have a black car , I dont notice streaking either with seal n shine. I think the more we compliment seal n shine, TW may raise the price Again!.... so we might need to quiet down
I’ve used both and I enjoy the better smelling ceramic . And because of your videos , I’ve began to use turtle wax products again . I’ve been a chemical guys and Adams fan boy for years . But I’m tired of paying shipping when I can go straight to the auto parts store and buy . Thank you for all your detailing content .
I bought seal n shine because of your videos. I do see the streaking on my sterling gray car. I like that it protects. I will have to try the ceramic product. I have so much seal n shine it will prolly last into next year. Thanks for the detail advise and product tests.
I’ve applied Seal N Shine to a few different cars and the only time it got streaky for me was when I was doing it in heat/sunlight. You absolutely cannot use Seal N Shine in the sun or else you will get streaks. It flash-dries on the surface so you literally can’t wipe it off. To fix the streaks, I waited until it cooled off, then reapplied the product on top of the streaky areas and it fixed it.
I had preordered a bottle of the ceramic after I was so impressed over the past 4 months or so with the Seal and Shine. I canceled the preorder after seeing three tests like yours that didn’t show an improvement and even appeared that the ceramic wasn’t as durable. I’ll stick with the Seal and Shine for my quick, easy, inexpensive paint protection.
Im going to use both, the seal n shine is better in my opinion and the whole ice line up but for some customers i cant bring the car inside or shaded anywhere and thats where hybrids will be better so i think ice line will be for indoor and hybrid for out doors
I bought one bottle of seal and shine when it came out. Used it and was very impressed and bought 5 more bottles for $5 each from amazon couple of months ago. Told my coworkers and few of them bought bottle each. Very good product and easy to use and very wallet friendly. Win win
Love Seal and Shine, but already had pre-ordered the ceramic spray as well. The streaking sucks, but I found rotating constant dry towels helped some. I found that if I pushed to finish a panel, and there was a buildup already, it streaked more than when I just kept grabbing dry ones.
I've been spraying a couple pumps of Seal and Shine onto a small foam pad, then wiping down one panel at a time. Good results, less product used and no streaking.
I can't stop applying Seal N Shine on my car, did the entire car after paint correction and liked the results. Now after every wash I'll re-apply it to a few panels, maybe the roof, hood, trunk lid, doors, bumpers, etc. Seems to layer well, hides deep scratches well to where you have to really look for them up close, correcting those scratches are beyond my abilities and comfort level.
That was fun to watch man! Man they are so close...I almost think the seal and shine is a taaaaad, dare I say stronger!? So tough to call on this one. Can't wait to get my own tests going!!
Turtle Wax said that Ceramic Spray Coating sees it's best durability when you apply 2 coats, 24 hours apart, with another 24 hours of cure (no soap) after that. I would like to see that tested against Seal N shine, with Both being given the 24 hour re-coat and another 24 hour cure.
Thank God someone did it. Pan The Organizer didn't show us the hybrid after a cure. Just immediately started the torture test. Thanks for this video. Waiting on my pre-order from Amazon
I love Seal n shin I use it as a drying aid every 2-2/1/2 weeks after a wash for my 2018 Sierra & my wife’s - 2020 Wrangler just make sure you have a damp microfiber to follow works on WHEELS GLASS TRIMS Etc. the gloss level is excellent
I use Ice Seal n Shine on my black SL. No streaking, let me repeat that, no streaking problems. Just follow the directions. Easy on, easy off. Gorgeous shine and smoothness.
I pre-ordered the new Ceramic stuff, BUT after your test I cancelled it and will continue to use Seal and Shine. Orig formula Seal and Shine for the win!!!
Hey, Lien! We wanted to confirm prices! Our Hybrid Solutions is currently just under $16 on Amazon.com, while our ICE Seal N Shine is just under $10. We designed this product to compliment the fan-favorite ICE Seal N Shine and created it to solve some of the detailers’ pain points with SNS. The difference-makers in the Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray Coating product include: - Easy on, easy off product application even in direct sunlight & high humidity - amazing results on paint, metal, plastic & glass in minutes - Chemical resistant, but designed for real-world application so it lasts up to 12 months when applied per the directions on the bottle (cure time is important here - AND don’t apply your 2nd coat until after the first coat cured for 24 hours) - Increased depth of paint color, gloss & shine
@@turtlewax So if I want to apply two coats of the Ceramic Spray Coating (BTW I pre-ordered it from Amazon). Do I have to not drive the car between applications? What happens if dust or dirt gets on the car between applications such has going past a guy running a leaf blower, lawn mower, etc. How is this type of situation handled? thanks
@@akj6181 Hey there! Hybrid Solutions is currently also available to purchase on Turtlewax.com for US customers! The product will be hitting retail shelves early 2020.
Terrific video. Very clear and complete demonstration/explanation. Lighting, audio and video are right on! Great video, Jimbo. Keep it up!!! I just used Ceramic on My Sister’s 2015 Honda Pilot that’s black. I had some streaks. No problem, a damp microfiber took care of that. It took ten minutes or so to complete it. I like it very much. I’ve used it as a topper to a few ceramic coated vehicles. It looks great and lasts a while! Two thumbs up.
Mr. Jimbo, I really enjoy both products from Turtle Wax. I used the Hybrid Solution products on my cars, & I used the Seal N Shine on cars that have carnauba wax applied to them. So they have different applications. The Hybrid Solution products were applied about 9 months ago on both of my daily drivers, still have shine & protection. The Seal N Shine I used after I used I applied Meguiars Ultimate Polish & Ultimate Wax. Also used S N S, as a booster, after I used TW Ice Spray Wax. As a non professional, For your viewers, I HIGHLY recommend both products from Turtle Wax. Remember, the key in using any polish or wax, prepare your car properly.
Just got a bottle of the Ceramic Spray Coating! I am VERY eager to see how it compares to their now legendary ICE Seal & Shine that I've been using for a while...
Great video as usual Jimbo. We all really appreciate you testing out these products. I don’t seem to have any streaking issues with the Seal and shine but I do have white cars. It seems to me at this juncture it’s not really worth throwing my seal and shine out. Again thanks for the great reviews.
I've used both. This season was a claybar with a once over with the Hybrid polish with 3 coats of the Hybrid spray wax - proper cure times of course... Absolutely sick. One month since the last coat with the SiO2 - holding up really well with sunglass gloss. Have used S&S over the ceramic as post-wash once over = sick&sick. Double whammy folks...stuff works on my Tornado red GTI. $ value for both is over the top. STREAKING??...I very lightly mist distilled h2o over the affected affected area(s) wipe with your best fluffy...voila! Good luck with whatever u use!!
Thanks Jimbo I think both products looks amazing! I’ve protected my car with seal n shine and top with ice spray wax can’t wait to see if it will resist to our long winter with salty roads! Great videos as usual great job!
I was thinking of topping with the Ice Spray Wax, until I saw a video showing results after 1 wash and wasn't impressed. For now I just re-apply Seal N Shine layering it and it's working great.
I was very excited over the ceramic spray coating but now I'm leaning a little toward seal and shine. Its cheaper, no cure time, no worries over my cloths being hardened by sio2 and I didn't see a significant difference between the two products in this video. One big plus for me is the ceramic spray can be used in direct sunlight. If not for that I wouldn't hesitate to stick with seal and shine.
Great video. I would say the original Seal and Shine product would still be a "best choice" as a cost effective finish to a simple detailing. The ceramic product appears to work almost as well and might be a best choice for a black car. Keep up the good work.
Great review, looks like I'll be sticking with the Seal N' Shine. For future reference, a single camera angle was better. Constantly switching between the tripod, and handheld, and the head cam was kind of jarring.
I pre-ordered the new Hybrid Turtle Wax and I will be using it differently. I use seal and shine as a drying aid when I am in direct sunlight since it was so much cheaper than Sonax BSD. I'll probably do a 50/50 comparison of Hybrid Turtle Wax and seal and shine on my DD RSX as it sits outside during the day. Thank you for always making these informative videos Jimbo!
I just got a bottle of the ceramic and did my. Cts caddy with Blackcherry paint. Wow the depth and gloss were amazing! Can I use seal and shine over the ceramic or visversa?
I think the hard tropical sun is the REAL test of durability...far more than the water beading or sheeting. But I like what you're doing; it's valuable too!
no point, seal and shine will loose immediately. It has really, really poor abrasion performance. Seal and shine is amazing for garaged cars in summer with little rain i.e. Southern Europe or mid/southern USA.
What product would be an equivalent to seal n shine in terms of price and chemical resistance but sheets water instead of beading water? The ceramic seemed to bead a good bit in the beginning.
Can you apply it in cold , in like +5 Celcius ? If you apply it on top of Glaze , Poor's boys black hall for example . How long both of them last on daily driver kept outside ?
Seal and Sine is great stuff and that's what I had been using however I've since switched over to the new hybrid line simply because there are a number of products to compliment the ceramic spray such as the wash, the detailer and the wet wax. I just like the idea of having a line of products in the same family that work well together. Still a big fan of Seal and Shine though.....it's all good stuff and you can't go wrong with any of it. Oh, and yes, I do like the smell of the hybrid solution line.
On the ceramic coating, a 24 hour cure is needed between coats too. You put it on too thick imo. Great vid! Can't wait to try it. No such thing as a "wet cure", really, imo. S&S needs no cure. The ceramic coating will wash right off if not cured properly. In conclusion, for my money, I'm Stickin with S&S. Cheaper and more durable. In my use of S&S, I had no problem with the streaking on the paint. However, I did have some streaking on glass. TW tried to one up on S&S but imo just didn't score with the ceramic.
I got streaking with Turtle ceramic upon rewshasing like it melting down the window swithced to CMX worked better for me.I may have put too much Turtle Ceramic on ?
I have Ceramic Pro 9H on my entire car and Xpel Ultimate on the front. They recommend Ceramic Pro Sport once a year but I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to use the TW Ceramic Spray for each maintenance wash??
I'll try it when it comes out-- but Seal n Shine was the winner of the torture test (again). I still have a few bottles and the stuff just lasts forever. So I'll keep using it. After buying enough Ammo product to drain a bank account, Turtle Wax just kills it time after time for under $10 bucks.
Love ceiling, shine column, but hate the striking still.... My new favorite thing is the new minute wax For quick detailing.. no streaking, and pops colors hugely.
For basic services I use Seal n Shine because the price is outstanding and the average client isn’t going to fully understand the difference or want to pay extra for SiO2 based product. For those that want ceramic like protection but not the level of application needed for professional level ceramic coating I use Gtechniq C2 Liquid Crystal V3(20 dollars on Amazon offers a year of protection).
I've gone for the seal n shine although it's called just sealant here in the UK. In my opinion it seemed to sheet the quickest during your test. 👍 good test thanks for uploading, time to give a try myself.
I was getting bad brake dust on my 19 PP1 mustang GT gloss black wheels. Put some seal n shine on em for the hell of it. Night n day. Almost zero brake dust sticking to the wheels. Works soo good
@@autodetailingpodcast Which one is greater? I bet both are not too shabby :) I ordered the new TW Ceramic and also the car wash as I reached out to them and they said on a black car that has soft clear to combo both. Heck why not try-damn car is brand new and awful. Walk by it and it scratches-lol
The problem of those companies are they jacked up the price when we consumers start put our trust in their products. Thank God that we have guy like Jimbo and Pan can show us the difference so we don’t break our wallet$
Love your videos, just wondering if you've done a video for the "Ultimate" product, I.e. which product lasts the longest, not worrying about application but just the product that is basically apply and forget about for a while?
After using ICE Spray Wax for about a year, I tried the Ceramic Coating and used a 5-inch microfiber applicator (directions said to use a separate towel as an applicator) and I learned to work in a small area or the product can dry too quickly. After two days cure time, reapplied the Ceramic Coating in cool/cold weather. Two months later, the Hybrid coating still sheds water better than the regular spray wax applied to a different vehicle. IMO: the Spray Wax has Ease-of-Application and the Ceramic Coating has greater durability and it was chosen to apply on the roof of a SUV/Van because its such a PITA to clean and wax the top.
Man this is a tough one but i will say i have a decent stock of S&S and it being a bit more elbow grease to keep the streaks away isn’t an issue for me because when using one towel for application and one for buffing its not that big of a deal, will still be picking up the ceramic coating for some certain areas I’d like to test, great comparison Jimbo Edit: I’d like to emphasize again the fact even turtle wax mentioned on their instagram that if someone just wants a chemical resistant beast that S&S is the go to but the ceramic coating caters to those who just dont wanna put in thr additional elbow grease for buffing off the S&S. Love the fact how they are transparent and arent just trying to upsell
I just take my time using seal and shine until my 3 bottles gone then hopefully ceramic spray get cheaper with the price I will start buying them for my future use.
Too bad my driveway detailing has pretty much come to an end here in Wisconsin. I'll be picking it up in the spring. If both products are virtually the same, I give the nod to a better smell. Seal n shine smells bad for sure. Excellent video Jimbo, thanks for the info!!
Same here, over in MN! I actually don't mind the smell of Seal n Shine. I think it was Jimbo, but someone said it smells like his dad/grandpa cologne lol. I have 2 extra bottles of Seal n Shine that I bought at Walmart for $6/bottle, so I'll be waiting for plenty of durability tests before I spend money to replace something that's already a rockstar in my arsenal.
@@METAL_BRAH. Cheapest price in the UK is £7,50 but you have to buy 2 bottles to get that price. About 6 weeks ago you could buy a bottle from some detailing websites for £6. Now because of the explosion on UA-cam and media they are now up to £14 a bottle! Luckily I currently have 5 bottles! 😁🏴
Hey I would like to know if seal and shine performs better than autoglym aqua wax and extra gloss protection? I would change if its better. I like how easy it is able to apply.
JIMBO'S DETAILING,Great job on all you videos,Very detailed and your one of the best out there,My question is,I just got done polishing my new silver Ram with Meguires d301finishing polish and was wondering if I needed to strip the wax off before applying S&S or the ceramic spray.Also,would you recommend anything else over silver paint to make it pop more? I know silver is a tough color.Thank you in advance...
Both seal n shine and ceramic coating were fully cured for over 48 hours, with the exception of the far right side of the panel where stated instant sure.
Will you be picking up the new hybrid solutions ceramic spray coating?
Hey Jimbo, on my car parked outside in the elements, it feels like seal and shine breaks up after only a couple of weeks. Has this been your experience? I'm not sure if it's the UV's....I'd be very interested in seeing a test after 2 weeks of both products under the sun.
Hey, i know a company making a sealing product like these how would they get in contact about sending a trial bottle over?
jacob hallenbeck - jimbo@autodetailingpodcast.com
no....jury is still out. I am glad I didn't pull the trigger yet via amazon on this hybrid line....so far it definitely has not lived up to the hype. waiting for brian(apex detail's review) he can measure gloss enhancement. I use U, BRIAN, FORENSIC, FAB, PAN and others to get a good perspective....
I tinker now that I am retired....correct that...brian has turned me into a product junkie..lol..
Jason at Chi Auto Pro's did both of my jag vanden plas...05 liquid silver and 07 cranberry mica...a few yrs ago and I have been bit by the detail bug ever since....look forward to your videos....well done. hope u will consider the test I mention in comments
Will you run the Ceramic against TLC v2? I was impressed with TLC v2 in your last test.
I have used both TW products and very pleased with both of them. Seal and Shine came out before the ceramic coating and I was very pleased with how it worked on my truck. Granted the scent of Seal and Shine was not the best, reminded me of a hair product but it worked very well. Then I tried the ceramic spray coating and I kind of liked it better for the ease of application and the shine it left. In fact, I did a second coating the next day and I was blown away by the shine that it leaves on my truck. It really catches my eye when I go into the garage and look at my truck. I swear its glossier and has a wet look that lasts longer than I expect. Hands down for me, ceramic coating spray is the better of the two. Durability is a toss up between the two, they are both good, maybe it comes down to price of each product.
Here’s my recent review. I purchased this last year in June while at the auto parts store getting products to do a last minute detail on my mustang before autocross and car show on father’s day weekend. I did not properly apply because I was in a rush and I can tell you that wash was the last time I washed it until last week when it was time to bring it back out. Car sat in the elements the entire time as well as a few drives during the winter when the roads were clear enough. As I was washing the car I was confused as to why the water was beading so much and I had completely spaced that I used this hybrid ceramic spray that day last June. Bought the product as an “eh why not” and now it’s all I’ll ever use. Quick and is as well as offers great protection especially if properly applied. 10/10 - weekend warrior detailer
Great video! Something to note - the Seal n Shine technically had two coats per its directions, whereas the Ceramic version would need a coat, 24 hr cure time, then another coat, then another 24 hrs to have the same number of applications. It could be argued that this test was two coats of Seal n Shine vs one of Ceramic. There are pros and cons to that, I guess.
Jimbo, heres an idea what if you mixed like 5 or 6 sio2 ceramic sprays together in one bottle and do a test on that?
I have been using ceramic coating for over a year now and I just love it as it gives ( for me) that silky feel for a longer time.
Hello thank you for your comments and work I have used turtle ceramic spray coating twice and then I went over the top with seal and shine very impressed with the results thank you from sussie fan cheers
After using both products extensively I can tell you one thing, the Turtle Wax Ceramic spray coating has way higher gloss and shine. And even more durability than seal & shine. Or at least the same. The self-cleaning properties in the Ceramic spray coating keep the vehicle much cleaner than the seal & shine when it's raining or snowing.
Have you used Graphene from
Turtle wax?
I am a professional car painter for the last 50 years I have used or try to use the ceramic spray on my black Mustang. I didn't particularly care for it. It worked me pretty hard to get the smear removed. I tried to apply at all different kind of ways. It was just really tough to remove it. I like the seal and shine.
I've never experienced streaking with seal and shine, but never used in direct sunlight. Great stuff
I haven't had streaking issues at all when using the seal and shine also. Im curious how to get it to streak, meaning is using it in a wrong way create the streaks. Im sorry not trying to have go at Jimbo at all.
I don't get streaks but I get high spots that wont rub out
Damp rag works great at blending the streaks for turtle wax seal n shine.
The new seal n shine is even better on all levels!
@@jhndijkman it can streak in hot places i.e. deserts, tropics. But its easily fixeable. just add a few drops of water onto the paint. seal and shine doesnt really bond to paint so it doesnt matter.
I'm sold! Great product review! It's definitely "TURTLE WAX CERAMIC" for me! Thanks!
I have just tried the ceramic and I love it, beats the heck out of paste
Thanks Jimbo, Seal and Shine for me all day long. I use it on my black car and it works great. I don’t think the new stuff is any better and plus u have to wait 24 hours for cure time. Seal and Shine Wins !
Well here's my $. 02 from a light color car owner... I have 2 Mineral White Bimmers and have very little streaking that quite honestly would be invisible to most. So I consider "streaking" a non issue. The smell isn't fruity but it ain't funky either. ICE Seal n Shine is simply the Best performance value in car detailing, period! I did pre-order 2 products from their new line just to try/compare. 👍🏽
Great job as usual.
I have a black truck and I also had no streaking issues with S & S.
I have a black car , I dont notice streaking either with seal n shine. I think the more we compliment seal n shine, TW may raise the price Again!.... so we might need to quiet down
@@93hb my thoughts exactly!
I’ve used both and I enjoy the better smelling ceramic . And because of your videos , I’ve began to use turtle wax products again . I’ve been a chemical guys and Adams fan boy for years . But I’m tired of paying shipping when I can go straight to the auto parts store and buy .
Thank you for all your detailing content .
I bought seal n shine because of your videos. I do see the streaking on my sterling gray car. I like that it protects. I will have to try the ceramic product. I have so much seal n shine it will prolly last into next year. Thanks for the detail advise and product tests.
I’ve applied Seal N Shine to a few different cars and the only time it got streaky for me was when I was doing it in heat/sunlight.
You absolutely cannot use Seal N Shine in the sun or else you will get streaks. It flash-dries on the surface so you literally can’t wipe it off. To fix the streaks, I waited until it cooled off, then reapplied the product on top of the streaky areas and it fixed it.
I had preordered a bottle of the ceramic after I was so impressed over the past 4 months or so with the Seal and Shine. I canceled the preorder after seeing three tests like yours that didn’t show an improvement and even appeared that the ceramic wasn’t as durable. I’ll stick with the Seal and Shine for my quick, easy, inexpensive paint protection.
Im going to use both, the seal n shine is better in my opinion and the whole ice line up but for some customers i cant bring the car inside or shaded anywhere and thats where hybrids will be better so i think ice line will be for indoor and hybrid for out doors
I bought one bottle of seal and shine when it came out. Used it and was very impressed and bought 5 more bottles for $5 each from amazon couple of months ago. Told my coworkers and few of them bought bottle each. Very good product and easy to use and very wallet friendly. Win win
Seal and Shine is what i put on my car every 2 months and it is awesome!
Every 2 months!!!! It should last for 6 months they say.
Love Seal and Shine, but already had pre-ordered the ceramic spray as well. The streaking sucks, but I found rotating constant dry towels helped some. I found that if I pushed to finish a panel, and there was a buildup already, it streaked more than when I just kept grabbing dry ones.
I've been spraying a couple pumps of Seal and Shine onto a small foam pad, then wiping down one panel at a time. Good results, less product used and no streaking.
I can't stop applying Seal N Shine on my car, did the entire car after paint correction and liked the results. Now after every wash I'll re-apply it to a few panels, maybe the roof, hood, trunk lid, doors, bumpers, etc. Seems to layer well, hides deep scratches well to where you have to really look for them up close, correcting those scratches are beyond my abilities and comfort level.
That was fun to watch man! Man they are so close...I almost think the seal and shine is a taaaaad, dare I say stronger!? So tough to call on this one. Can't wait to get my own tests going!!
how about layer it? For ex puting two layers od ceramic coating with cure time as needed, and then on top of that seal n shine?
ive used both and you can layer the procedure with seal and shine too
Turtle Wax said that Ceramic Spray Coating sees it's best durability when you apply 2 coats, 24 hours apart, with another 24 hours of cure (no soap) after that. I would like to see that tested against Seal N shine, with Both being given the 24 hour re-coat and another 24 hour cure.
Thank God someone did it. Pan The Organizer didn't show us the hybrid after a cure. Just immediately started the torture test. Thanks for this video. Waiting on my pre-order from Amazon
I love Seal n shin I use it as a drying aid every 2-2/1/2 weeks after a wash for my 2018 Sierra & my wife’s - 2020 Wrangler just make sure you have a damp microfiber to follow works on WHEELS GLASS TRIMS Etc. the gloss level is excellent
I use Ice Seal n Shine on my black SL. No streaking, let me repeat that, no streaking problems. Just follow the directions. Easy on, easy off. Gorgeous shine and smoothness.
I pre-ordered the new Ceramic stuff, BUT after your test I cancelled it and will continue to use Seal and Shine. Orig formula Seal and Shine for the win!!!
Billie Bob Norton III I did the same thing.
@@vetteboy1024 Add me to the list too LOL
I’m glad I got 3 bottles seal and shine because I don’t want to pay double or triple money just to getting the new look of the bottle label.
Hey, Lien! We wanted to confirm prices! Our Hybrid Solutions is currently just under $16 on Amazon.com, while our ICE Seal N Shine is just under $10. We designed this product to compliment the fan-favorite ICE Seal N Shine and created it to solve some of the detailers’ pain points with SNS. The difference-makers in the Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray Coating product include:
- Easy on, easy off product application even in direct sunlight & high humidity - amazing results on paint, metal, plastic & glass in minutes
- Chemical resistant, but designed for real-world application so it lasts up to 12 months when applied per the directions on the bottle (cure time is important here - AND don’t apply your 2nd coat until after the first coat cured for 24 hours)
- Increased depth of paint color, gloss & shine
@@turtlewax when and/or where will the ceramic spray coating be available for sale. It's not listed on Amazon anymore
@@turtlewax So if I want to apply two coats of the Ceramic Spray Coating (BTW I pre-ordered it from Amazon). Do I have to not drive the car between applications? What happens if dust or dirt gets on the car between applications such has going past a guy running a leaf blower, lawn mower, etc. How is this type of situation handled? thanks
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I think they expect us to let the car park 24 hours before applying another coat
@@akj6181 Hey there! Hybrid Solutions is currently also available to purchase on Turtlewax.com for US customers! The product will be hitting retail shelves early 2020.
Terrific video. Very clear and complete demonstration/explanation. Lighting, audio and video are right on! Great video, Jimbo. Keep it up!!!
I just used Ceramic on My Sister’s 2015 Honda Pilot that’s black. I had some streaks. No problem, a damp microfiber took care of that. It took ten minutes or so to complete it. I like it very much. I’ve used it as a topper to a few ceramic coated vehicles. It looks great and lasts a while! Two thumbs up.
Mr. Jimbo, I really enjoy both products from Turtle Wax. I used the Hybrid Solution products on my cars, & I used the Seal N Shine on cars that have carnauba wax applied to them. So they have different applications. The Hybrid Solution products were applied about 9 months ago on both of my daily drivers, still have shine & protection. The Seal N Shine I used after I used I applied Meguiars Ultimate Polish & Ultimate Wax. Also used S N S, as a booster, after I used TW Ice Spray Wax. As a non professional, For your viewers, I HIGHLY recommend both products from Turtle Wax. Remember, the key in using any polish or wax, prepare your car properly.
I’ve finally tried both, I prefer the Seal N Shine over the Cermaic. I felt the same it just felt better going on. Great Video!
Just got a bottle of the Ceramic Spray Coating! I am VERY eager to see how it compares to their now legendary ICE Seal & Shine that I've been using for a while...
Definitely a try it out. I own a black car so streaks are a major annoyance awesome vid
Great video as usual Jimbo. We all really appreciate you testing out these products. I don’t seem to have any streaking issues with the Seal and shine but I do have white cars. It seems to me at this juncture it’s not really worth throwing my seal and shine out. Again thanks for the great reviews.
I never have had any streaking using Seal & Shine, I love how it protects & shine's. For me, I'll stick with an already winner product.
We are glad you love our ICE Seal N Shine! We love to have something for everyone!
I've used both. This season was a claybar with a once over with the Hybrid polish with 3 coats of the Hybrid spray wax - proper cure times of course... Absolutely sick. One month since the last coat with the SiO2 - holding up really well with sunglass gloss. Have used S&S over the ceramic as post-wash once over = sick&sick. Double whammy folks...stuff works on my Tornado red GTI.
$ value for both is over the top. STREAKING??...I very lightly mist distilled h2o over the affected affected area(s) wipe with your best fluffy...voila! Good luck with whatever u use!!
Bought some TW Ceramic car wash and bought the ceramic coating wax. Nice stuff.
Thanks Jimbo I think both products looks amazing! I’ve protected my car with seal n shine and top with ice spray wax can’t wait to see if it will resist to our long winter with salty roads! Great videos as usual great job!
I was thinking of topping with the Ice Spray Wax, until I saw a video showing results after 1 wash and wasn't impressed. For now I just re-apply Seal N Shine layering it and it's working great.
I was very excited over the ceramic spray coating but now I'm leaning a little toward seal and shine. Its cheaper, no cure time, no worries over my cloths being hardened by sio2 and I didn't see a significant difference between the two products in this video. One big plus for me is the ceramic spray can be used in direct sunlight. If not for that I wouldn't hesitate to stick with seal and shine.
My cars seem well protected with TW Ceramic. Haven't tried Seal n Shine. Never used TW products before about 2 months ago. Now absolutely sold!
Great video. I would say the original Seal and Shine product would still be a "best choice" as a cost effective finish to a simple detailing. The ceramic product appears to work almost as well and might be a best choice for a black car. Keep up the good work.
I live in Arizona and I have not been disappointed by seal n shine. And the temp was not that bad during the demo turtle wax had
Great review, looks like I'll be sticking with the Seal N' Shine. For future reference, a single camera angle was better. Constantly switching between the tripod, and handheld, and the head cam was kind of jarring.
Yes. Please go back to your old presentation.
I got seasick.
Absolutely! This was so dizzying! 😵
Gave me a heachache
@@Jason-ht6ze life must be hard when you're that sensitive.
New ceramic coating for me, good prep and cure time equal longer protection.
Looks like seal & shine winner
Need to see which one has a higher metered shine
Pan The Organizer says the ceramic spray has a higher gloss.
I think I will try the Seal & Shine. I have a white truck so the streaking probably won't be an issue.
I pre-ordered the new Hybrid Turtle Wax and I will be using it differently. I use seal and shine as a drying aid when I am in direct sunlight since it was so much cheaper than Sonax BSD. I'll probably do a 50/50 comparison of Hybrid Turtle Wax and seal and shine on my DD RSX as it sits outside during the day. Thank you for always making these informative videos Jimbo!
That’s a great idea
Thanks for making this video. Very educational.
I just got a bottle of the ceramic and did my. Cts caddy with Blackcherry paint. Wow the depth and gloss were amazing! Can I use seal and shine over the ceramic or visversa?
Yes you can use it right over
I bought seal n shine and I don't reapply it as often as I should because I'm lazy. I might have to try out the ceramic one to get on my game better.
Video starts at 2:30 recommend 1.5x
I think the hard tropical sun is the REAL test of durability...far more than the water beading or sheeting. But I like what you're doing; it's valuable too!
Could you do salt water to test the durability of each product?
no point, seal and shine will loose immediately. It has really, really poor abrasion performance. Seal and shine is amazing for garaged cars in summer with little rain i.e. Southern Europe or mid/southern USA.
Gloss readings will be my deciding factor.
Top seal@ shine with beadmaker.. shinier and more durable than Turtle Wax Ceramic spray coating.
Turtle wax hybrid ceramic coating may i now this product UV protection or not MR JIMBO
I’m always a fan of sheeting
What product would be an equivalent to seal n shine in terms of price and chemical resistance but sheets water instead of beading water? The ceramic seemed to bead a good bit in the beginning.
I would suggest Seal&Shine , The Last Coat2 and TW ceramic spray. That would be a good battle to see.😎
it might go on for days...LOL
I love both Seal n Shine and The Last Coat 2. Both are great products 💪. You should test them!
Lost faith in The last coat in their first series. Total rip off and doesn't last any longer than two rabbits going at it.
Seal n shine us the best I've used so far. Great vid
Can you apply it in cold , in like +5 Celcius ?
If you apply it on top of Glaze , Poor's boys black hall for example .
How long both of them last on daily driver kept outside ?
I’m not sure. You would need to try it out. It doesn’t get that cold where I live
@@autodetailingpodcast cheers Boss
Seal and Sine is great stuff and that's what I had been using however I've since switched over to the new hybrid line simply because there are a number of products to compliment the ceramic spray such as the wash, the detailer and the wet wax. I just like the idea of having a line of products in the same family that work well together. Still a big fan of Seal and Shine though.....it's all good stuff and you can't go wrong with any of it. Oh, and yes, I do like the smell of the hybrid solution line.
On the ceramic coating, a 24 hour cure is needed between coats too. You put it on too thick imo. Great vid! Can't wait to try it. No such thing as a "wet cure", really, imo. S&S needs no cure. The ceramic coating will wash right off if not cured properly. In conclusion, for my money, I'm Stickin with S&S. Cheaper and more durable. In my use of S&S, I had no problem with the streaking on the paint. However, I did have some streaking on glass. TW tried to one up on S&S but imo just didn't score with the ceramic.
I got streaking with Turtle ceramic upon rewshasing like it melting down the window swithced to CMX worked better for me.I may have put too much Turtle Ceramic on ?
possibly. a little goes a long way.
I have Ceramic Pro 9H on my entire car and Xpel Ultimate on the front. They recommend Ceramic Pro Sport once a year but I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to use the TW Ceramic Spray for each maintenance wash??
How does either product react with black plastic trims? Thanks!
If your trim is new they brighten it up a bit, but they wont restore faded trim.
@@autodetailingpodcast darn was hoping it did the latter. Thanks.
What kind of prep did you do on the car? Paint correction? Everything the pros would do?
I'll try it when it comes out-- but Seal n Shine was the winner of the torture test (again). I still have a few bottles and the stuff just lasts forever. So I'll keep using it. After buying enough Ammo product to drain a bank account, Turtle Wax just kills it time after time for under $10 bucks.
Was under $10. Seems the secrets out now. Still a great bargain!
Can't wait for the new line up from Turtle Wax November 1st. Ammo is over rated
Ammo is garbage
I bought seal and shine for $5 each and bought 5 bottles couple of months ago. I would not consider AMMO. He is ripoff
ammo is 'phone china have my label slapped on some cheap trash' and ship it over
Love ceiling, shine column, but hate the striking still.... My new favorite thing is the new minute wax For quick detailing.. no streaking, and pops colors hugely.
I was thinking about layering these 2 products. Do you think it will be more effective if the ceramic spray coating goes on first or second?
First
For basic services I use Seal n Shine because the price is outstanding and the average client isn’t going to fully understand the difference or want to pay extra for SiO2 based product. For those that want ceramic like protection but not the level of application needed for professional level ceramic coating I use Gtechniq C2 Liquid Crystal V3(20 dollars on Amazon offers a year of protection).
Thank you for the very detailed test of the 2 products, and the explanation that you cant get from just watching. Very helpful!
I understand about the fragrance thing.
I can't use Megs D166 because of the sour apple scent.
Great video. I just picked up some seal n shine and look forward to using it. Thanks for sharing.
Every product works well when you apply but what about longevity, what I care about is how long will the two protect me before I need to reapply?
Turtle Seal n shine smoothness vs turtle ceramic smoothness ?? Which one is more smooth ??
I've gone for the seal n shine although it's called just sealant here in the UK. In my opinion it seemed to sheet the quickest during your test. 👍 good test thanks for uploading, time to give a try myself.
I was getting bad brake dust on my 19 PP1 mustang GT gloss black wheels. Put some seal n shine on em for the hell of it. Night n day. Almost zero brake dust sticking to the wheels. Works soo good
All I want to see is TW Ceramic compared to Technitians Choice TEC582 which I use now on my BLK car and LOVE It
It’s a great fricken product
@@autodetailingpodcast Which one is greater? I bet both are not too shabby :) I ordered the new TW Ceramic and also the car wash as I reached out to them and they said on a black car that has soft clear to combo both. Heck why not try-damn car is brand new and awful. Walk by it and it scratches-lol
The problem of those companies are they jacked up the price when we consumers start put our trust in their products. Thank God that we have guy like Jimbo and Pan can show us the difference so we don’t break our wallet$
Thanks for the trust you place in my opinion Lien!
Love your videos, just wondering if you've done a video for the "Ultimate" product, I.e. which product lasts the longest, not worrying about application but just the product that is basically apply and forget about for a while?
What's your favorite spray sheeter vs beader? Sheeters are better for water spots
After using ICE Spray Wax for about a year, I tried the Ceramic Coating and used a 5-inch microfiber applicator (directions said to use a separate towel as an applicator) and I learned to work in a small area or the product can dry too quickly. After two days cure time, reapplied the Ceramic Coating in cool/cold weather. Two months later, the Hybrid coating still sheds water better than the regular spray wax applied to a different vehicle. IMO: the Spray Wax has Ease-of-Application and the Ceramic Coating has greater durability and it was chosen to apply on the roof of a SUV/Van because its such a PITA to clean and wax the top.
Man this is a tough one but i will say i have a decent stock of S&S and it being a bit more elbow grease to keep the streaks away isn’t an issue for me because when using one towel for application and one for buffing its not that big of a deal, will still be picking up the ceramic coating for some certain areas I’d like to test, great comparison Jimbo
Edit: I’d like to emphasize again the fact even turtle wax mentioned on their instagram that if someone just wants a chemical resistant beast that S&S is the go to but the ceramic coating caters to those who just dont wanna put in thr additional elbow grease for buffing off the S&S.
Love the fact how they are transparent and arent just trying to upsell
I just take my time using seal and shine until my 3 bottles gone then hopefully ceramic spray get cheaper with the price I will start buying them for my future use.
can you apply seal and shine over the ceramic spray for ultimate durability?
Yes
@@autodetailingpodcast How about the cc over s&s?
Too bad my driveway detailing has pretty much come to an end here in Wisconsin. I'll be picking it up in the spring. If both products are virtually the same, I give the nod to a better smell. Seal n shine smells bad for sure. Excellent video Jimbo, thanks for the info!!
Same here, over in MN! I actually don't mind the smell of Seal n Shine. I think it was Jimbo, but someone said it smells like his dad/grandpa cologne lol. I have 2 extra bottles of Seal n Shine that I bought at Walmart for $6/bottle, so I'll be waiting for plenty of durability tests before I spend money to replace something that's already a rockstar in my arsenal.
Would you pay over 3 times the price just for a better smell??
still have a week or two here in NY. 😭 will try do do one last coat of seal and shine until March.
@@METAL_BRAH. Cheapest price in the UK is £7,50 but you have to buy 2 bottles to get that price. About 6 weeks ago you could buy a bottle from some detailing websites for £6. Now because of the explosion on UA-cam and media they are now up to £14 a bottle! Luckily I currently have 5 bottles! 😁🏴
Luis Gaston your lucky that you can do it in March. Here in Maine I have to wait until May for the 12 feet of snow to start melting😂🤣
Can I apply both just to have both its benefits?
so after I pre-wash, hand-wash, clay..... what do i do? Ceramic coating? Wax? seal n shine? What company? What product? Chemical guys?
Hey , great videos thanks for that, quick question , I was wondering about a good tire shine and one that last, any ideas?
Mia mangano superior cover all is great
Hey I would like to know if seal and shine performs better than autoglym aqua wax and extra gloss protection? I would change if its better. I like how easy it is able to apply.
I’d be interested in the difference of the gloss readings between the two products.
I agree. Why was the "gloss factor" not even a consideration?
Wondering this the whole time. Never mentions a word about how it looks.
@@HoosierDaddyDetailingit should definitely be a category in every video.
in another video i watched the the newer hybrid ceramic spray had the better shine
great video and comparison video again jimbo
Could not pick it up yet, but I preordered 2 bottles of the Hybrid solutions! Excited!!!
Can you use the Seal & Shine as a topper/maintenance on the TW Ceramic spray?
I think so, I don’t see why not.
Well can I use both? Lets say one weekend i use seal and shine and next time i wash it can i use the ceramic spray on top of the seal and shine?
Yes
I’ve used Turtle Wax Express Shine for a couple years. It is streak prone on hot panels. I’d love to see how it stacks up against these two products.
Great review. Could the ceramic coating have better mechanical abrasion properties?
Scratches from branches and what not...
in one word: yes. That's what is made for.
JIMBO'S DETAILING,Great job on all you videos,Very detailed and your one of the best out there,My question is,I just got done polishing my new silver Ram with Meguires d301finishing polish and was wondering if I needed to strip the wax off before applying S&S or the ceramic spray.Also,would you recommend anything else over silver paint to make it pop more? I know silver is a tough color.Thank you in advance...
i do both, strip before application and use it as a maintenance product.