I've been using tons of different types of car care products over the last 50 years of my car care life. Paid thousands of bucks to test the "next best car care product. Took me 45 years to finally realize that the Turtle Wax products that have been put out in the last 2 or 3 years have been the most incredible AND cheapest car care products on the market today. YOU DON'T NEED TO SPEND A BUNCH OF MONEY ON ALL THESE SNAZZY RAZZY PRODUCTS THAT DON'T DO ANYTHING BETTER!!!!!!
The S&S they sent you from the US is the brand new one, it isn't old. The old model had a silver spray top, it was updated once and still had the silver top with a "new" stamp just like your middle version called "sealant wax" in the UK. After a while they transitioned both ICE products that are left in the US (Spray wax and Seal and Shine) to black spray tops. You have the newest model that has added SIO2 and patented UV protection. Those that have tested the old vs new version argue the new one is slightly better. Looks like you have about the same thing in the UK with the updated model being your version in the middle but probably has different chemical make up. I don't see any info stating it has SIO2 like ours. Your old S&S looks like it performs similar to our older version which I actually prefer. The beads were ridiculous for a spray sealant and I liked that it was a purely polymer product. Adding SIO2 to literally everything you have kind of negates having different products in the first place. You could top it with pretty much whatever you wanted if you were actually worried about UV protection. I'm sure it protected the paint just fine from the sun with the added carnuba. Pound for pound, this is and has been since its release the best protection for your paint. TW probably made the greatest paint protection product of all time when they released S&S. It's amazing for anyone that uses it; enthusiasts, pros, moms with their soccer vans. Its absolutely amazing what you get for the money.
I should have read your reply before I posted my message - got 2 bottles from Amazon yesterday and they looked like the USA version except the word “ICE” is missing - so should be the latest (possibly best) version! Thanks for explanation 👍
@@colinmilne4634 You will win with any version, I have both on my shelf and they are both amazing performance wise. You will get a bit more durability with the latest version but it is minimal. The ultimate combo for the money is to top it with the ICE spray wax. That is a legit 6 months of protection unless you live in very harsh conditions.
Weird. So if I go on Amazon USA right now, they have the “old” US version on his Left (you call this the new one) it is $13.49 for 16oz. Product number 50984. The one with the silver top and large “ICE” logo and slightly different turtle wax logo (the old white turtle logo, not the new green one) it is $14.99 with a microfiber towel and 16oz. Product number 53223. Others charging 19.99 with no towel. Then scroll down and there are a ton of other TW products that confuse the crap out of you. They are all so similar.
@@KosmicHRTRacingTeam Yes, on US Amazon you can still buy the old version, even in bulk which I think is a great deal. The new version is a dollar cheaper but you don't get a microfiber towel with it, not a big deal. Funny because you can also get the UK version but it is more expensive.
I like the fact that you can spray them on wet paint, I like to dry and wax 🤘 I give credit to Turtle Wax for the pricing of their products, so cost effective. Love the video as usual 👍
I have the old new improved and also the new seal n shine. I've done some test and they are the same solution and same smell. They have lasted the same amount of time and also bead and protect the same way. I'm sure it is the same solution just in a new bottle. I hoped that helped. Also another amazing vid. Cheers from Australia. 👍
Also - I think Pan did an interview with the Turtle Wax chemist and marketing exec and they explained the different versions/releases in US/UK. Can’t remember the details, but the interview’s still up.
I used the original Sealant Wax to coat the shower enclosure, the chemical resistance is great with all the wife's shampoos (lasts for months too and cheap to buy)!!! Currently testing IW Diamond Vision and AM Rain in the shower area.
I’ve found every TW Hybrid Solutions product to be outstanding. At first I was skeptical that it would be crappy Walmart junk, but oh was I wrong. Professional grade in every way
Yes very good products for the $$$, however to get a year of protection, you must apply two coats of the polish and two coats of the spray wax waiting 24 hours between coats. One application of Seal "n Shine and one application of ICE Spray Wax could get you the durability?
Was literally just trawling your old videos for your recommendation on these! Its been my go to drying aid/sealant. Seal & shine is what Turtlewax UK online store now supply even if you buy the old 'sealant'. Still seems good to me.
Incredibly timely video. I’m about to finish polishing my Mini (taking a little UA-cam break), and will be using Ice S-n-S afterward. BTW, I think raising the panel by the sides may make the center “lane” slightly concave, so the middle pad’s surface has slightly less contact/friction with the panel than the outer pads. Great video, as always! I’ve learned a ton from you (which I’m applying right now😊)!
There other range in the blue bottles is incredible, the spray on shine. Lasts for ages, but I often have streaking problems on my black car from it. Even shaking the bottle, instantly pressure washing off and not in direct sun. Other colours of car seem absolutely fine.
Nope, other are streaky too, the durability is quite nice, but damn I DON'T like working with this line-up, streaky as hell no matter what you doo, tryed to buff out immediately - streaks, watered down? Streaks.. Not for me, turtle is old news, many other better products out there
Euros were doing an in store deal on Seal and Shine a few months ago. Remembered you testing it so thought rude not to give it a try. Decided to test it on my Lorry first: I do roughly 1.5k miles a week, wash it once a week with autosmart TFR.... Still beading fairly well 2 months later 😮 and works a treat on glass!!
Totally agree with you Sam. Turtle Wax Seal and Shine is the most AMAZING stuff I've used in 50 years. SUPER easy to apply and take off. The key is that you MUST use very, very little or it will streak. I have found out that it only lasts for 2 to 3 months on my nice daily driver car that is NEVER garaged. Nobody knows that even the winter sunshine does almost as much damage to your wax protection as the summer sun. That's OK because there realistically isn't ANY wax that lasts any longer than 3 months on any car that is NEVER in a garage. All these tests that say their wax lasts for even 6 months is a bunch of B.S and must be based on a car that is garaged for 12 to 14 hours every day. I also use Meguires Shine as you Dry as a topper after every 10 to 14 day hand wash. NEVER use an automatic car wash!!!!!! And also, ALL these Turtle Wax Solution products are so-o-o-o cheap compared to all these super duper crappy expensive products that ARE NOT any better. Glad you are one of the very few people that has "seen the light".
Glad I picked up a couple of the old sealant stuff from euros when it was around £2 a bottle back just before summer! It’s cracking stuff and I think it may be better the sonax BSD!
Thank you Jon, another excellent test. I think these products are all pretty amazing for the money. None are something I would use, but for the everyday owner who washes their car once a month or something, and wants a quick & easy way to protect their paint, any of these are quite brilliant.
Seal n Shine is too good for the price. I’ve seen an easy 6 months out of it and can beat it UP with chemicals. Works great for mobile detailing with a wash,clay, seal type service
Good comparison Jon, thanks. I have the hydrophobic sealant and struggle on the black VW, but having watched a few videos, applying to the microfibre pad works better than applying to the panel.
Stuff is awesome. It's really very chemical resistant and it will protect your car very good. Used up a few bottles of it. In fact you could use this for LSP and don't bother about other products. Thing is that I like to try several brands and products but there are some that will always stay in my arsenal. I have the same thing with Sonax BSD😅
Me - still on my can of Megiars Ultimate Fast Finish which i bought in 2019. Me - still planning to eventually buy a replacement wax/sealant when Fast Finish finally gets used up 😂. Great informative upload as always.For sure i will be picking up one of the Turtle Wax products, since i haven't used them at all in more than a decade.
Been waiting for This , In Halfords now there’s a bottle with the exact same sticker as the ice seal n shine but it doesn’t say ice but the rest of the sticker is the exact same as the ice one
Err pretty sure that the first two areas got buffed with the same part of the cloth as you appeared to flip it twice. It might be in the editing of course. No big deal.
I was watching and noticed as Jon put the cloth down he flipped it, then picked it up and flipped it back. If it were me doing a demo I would have folded the cloth to make it impossible or use a new cloth. Anyway I have a couple of bottles kicking about so I’ll get right on it.
Hi John, thanks for this video. I hope that you will be able to do one of your mega-tests on spray waxes. These seem to get less coverage on detailing forums compared to sealants and paste waxes. I use Meguiars Ultimate Quik Wax which works well but it would be interesting to find out if there are better products in this category.
I'm in Australia and we have the seal and shine new formula, well thats what it says on the bottle. This stuff is tenacious as. I use it on my wheels and its there wash after wash.
Whats the best durable and most importantly easy to use ceramic spray / sealant / wax? I really need to know whats the 1 products is easy to use? Im thinking to compare: seal n shine, graphene flex wax, to the max liquid wax, meguiars hybrid ceramic wax, sonax bsd Its okay to apply between 1-2months I had a expereic with hars to buff producs, i taken care of my paint with very2 safe washing and drying, but cuz the hard to buff products i used, it got me some minor scratches which overtime, more and more visible as time comes. So easy to buff of products is the way for me Any recommendations?
I have this particular ICE Seal and Shine version that you are describing as most durable of the 3. I have also a Wax and Dry wax. Question is, can I use TW Wax and Dry as topper?
You said about other products containing 'Si02' which other products don't come close to the turtle wax. But the new (or USA) version contains Si02. Can you confirm, does it contain such ingredient? On turtle wax website you can actually get that new printed label which your saying it the old USA version.
Shocking!!! contaminated panel 2 with panel 1 microfibre towel, then contaminated panel 3 with the ceramic side of the applicator... Pretty ordinary test and comparison
Loving the Seal & Shine. My base wax is a 20 year old tin of Nielsen Liquid Gold, topped up with Autoglym super resin, but I use the Seal & Shine every other week to give a beautiful finish to my San Marino blue CS.
hello Jon, have you used the older turtlewax Extra Gloss Sealer Wax with Titanium ? and is the formula (ingredients) of Seal N Shine similar to the older Extra Gloss Sealer Wax from turtlewax ?
@@ForensicDetailing Hi John! As I recently bought 5l BH Touchless, I didn't know, that is, a lot of them say on UA-cam that it's not very good to wash with ph-alkaline agent if the car has some kind of protection on the paint, so I'm interested in your answer, is it better to put protection, considering the resistance according to BHT, with 303 graphene nano (35E) or TW sealant hydrophobic wax (11.5E) or Meguiars HCW (16E) or sonax BSD (8E) and under it Polymer netShield (14E) or do you have some kind of better combination?
I find with all of TW sprays - use a well rung-out damp cloth as an initial wipe off followed with a fluffy- buffer. Never a streak issue. A very minor extra step that may actually save you time. Shine on you crazy diamond!
I've tried the new formula and I have to admit it's the worst spray product I have ever used, the old formula is alot superior on water water behaviour. Turtlewax in the marketing department and chemist need to wake up because they took a decent product and flawed it down by the new formula God knows what they doing, give us the USA formula even if the chemicals need to be imported from the USA as its the holy grail of products, if you do that I'm certain people will pay 21 pounds for a bottle the same as meguairs ceramic hybrid wax, as the test show on youtube the USA formula is tough nothing breaks it down take a hint Turylewax. Anyway I am going to stick with meguairs hybrid ceramic wax from now on getting ripped off as the graphene spray sealant is not up to the job as meguairs its the same price as well. Shame as this product could destroy meguiars spray sealant only if we have the same ingredients and formula as the USA, Turtlewax will make a real comeback in Europe and will make alot of sales, its a complete flaw on a business stargie going on a less superior product especially when the USA version videos on UA-cam show mega impressive results on their formula.
There are better out there, this lineup is old as dirt, but maybe not as cheap, but that's OK I rather pay a little more and have a streak free finish with A LOT less buffing out (the new seal and shine is super crap)
I have found myself using this (the prior and now latest U.K. version) more and more in recent months as my main go to sealant and slicker/glosser. It’s always been quicker than many SiO2 sprays, as it can be used wet or dry - so I spray and dry with it, it doesn’t need to cure before it rains etc, and provides weeks of protection and is 95% as glossy as one of the best SiO2 sprays I use to use. Yes I could get months of protection. with another higher tech product but this is so quick and easy to apply after each wash it’s just part of my drying routine now, I hardly think about it, as I dry. Good value too. Not seeing the need to use anything else.
@@jusb1066 they could charge a little more to cover up the rise. I was used to buy a bottle at $8. I could pay something like $12- $14 as long keep it original
Hi Jon, after years using mainly Fusso & BSD and trying some other products in between, I've tried to give TW a go and picked up a bottle from TW UK website. The label on the bottle I got is very similar to the U.S version that you showed here barred the ICE logo. Application and gloss are very good, no streaks and seems to be more resistant to water spotting compared to BSD but it's still very early days for me. Thanks for the comparison video.
A year later, how did it hold up as the months went by? I'm in the same situation where I can't find the ICE Seal n Shine but I can find the Seal n Shine that looks identical bar the ICE logo, but I don't know how the formula/performance differs from that of the ICE line.
Jon, here in the States, using the combo of Seal "n Shine & Ice Spray Wax will get you a year of durability on a daily driver. If not a daily driver, expect over a year. I have found nothing better for very little cost. I have been taking car of cars for 5 decades, and these products from Turtle Wax are amazing!
Totally agree with you Hartland! I've used a ton of different car care products over the last 50 years and finally woke up to these incredible Turtle Wax Solution products that have come out in the last couple of years. All these snazzy razzy high dollar products that are NOT any better are a bunch B.S. All anyone needs is a bottle of $10.00 Seal and Shine and any name brand bottle of quick wax to put on top of it each month and you are ready for any car show.
I have never had a streaking problem with Seal N Shine? Some products with ceramics, wipe off first with damp cloth followed up with a dry one.@@victoryensured7137
Just bought 2 bottles of “Seal n Shine” from Amazon and the labels on the delivery look like the USA product except the word “ICE” is missing! It does say UV protection so it is the latest formula. Have just applied it to the wife’s car after a wash & hand polish and it was very easy to do. We will see how long it lasts but it will not be an issue to top it up.
1 thing i absolutely hate about these bottles the triggers snap i bought 3 bottles of the hydrophobic wax 2 snapped so now i have to manually push the trigger forward
I'm from the U.S. and must admit that differences in packaging has me a bit "not sure" as to which of the U.K. packaging matches up to the U.S.. That being said, I believe I can speak for most TW enthusiasts that the combination of the current version of ICE Seal&Shine with the ICE Spray Wax as a maintenance topper is a killer classic. The combination of durability AND gloss/shine is as good as ANYTHING on the market. And, at a VERY reasonable price. Thanks for a really good vid here John. Shine on you crazy diamonds!
First of, I really love your content! It would be great if you could do a "self service car wash" guide, for all of us that live in an apartment, as well as minimalist detailing guide with the minimal amount of versatile products needed for car maintenance.
Thanks John so much for the review and the time you have spent very appreciated 👍 been waiting for this test. It is a shame we don't in the UK have the same USA version as the rest of the world real shame, as we have the most severe winter with road salt. I do believe if turtlewax UK use the same ingredients and content as the usa version this will sell like hot cakes and will compete with meguairs, just a real shame we don't have the best but anyway thank you for the review much appreciated
Great video. We all saw the vids from USA testing S&S a couple of years ago and kind of presumed that the stuff we got in the UK was the same but have always wondered if that was the case.
I applied Fuso Coat early summer and just over a week ago I applied TWHS Ceramic spray. We'll see how that goes this fall. If I'm lucky I'll get to apply it again before it gets too cold and winter hits. Thanks for the video. For the price these products do a great job IMO
Bro. UA-cam unsubscribed me from you. Been following you for months. Haven't seen you post in a while, sure as shit. I got pulled off from subscription.
Whats the key differences between seal and shine and dry and shine (blue bottle) here in the u.k ? Just finished bottle of gyeon wet coat so want similar product that can apply to wet car and just rinse of.
Of course, we should all remember that chemical resistance is not the same as actual durability!!! Put UK old Hydrophobic Sealant Wax on a car and it will not last that long, 3-4 months typically and there are products that are less chemically resistant will be more real world durable. There will also be products that are rubbish t both! Also, for chemical resistance, try and see how the original UK Hydrophobic Sealant Wax copes against Koch Chemie FSe. You might guess that by me raising it, means that I know and it is very disappointing! Main point though, chemical resistance isn’t the same as durability - weathering on the car is a factor and you’ll find that Car Plan SuperGloss Number 1 lasts longer in the real world. Test it!
@@ForensicDetailing initially. I did a test to see if FSe affected the durability of sealants and waxes, when it was used as a QD/drying aid. Some were unphased (paste waxes, non ceramic polymer sealants), but the TW Hydrophobic Sealant Wax was easily the most affected. FSe wears off very quickly to reveal the underlying product, helped by a wash so it was an eye opening test. It’s on UA-cam.
We did get the ICE range around 10 years ago... I have some 'synthetic wax in my garage with the ICE logo... its shit. Thats why its still in the garage 🤣 it would cause rainbows everywhere and make your paint greasy.
Been loving this product since I saw you review it years ago. This and the dry and shine is unreal! I've had fantastic results with the original UK version. 💪
i use this after a quick wash on car, and while car is still wet i spray it over the body panel then dry the car, works a treat for me.
I've been using tons of different types of car care products over the last 50 years of my car care life. Paid thousands of bucks to test the "next best car care product. Took me 45 years to finally realize that the Turtle Wax products that have been put out in the last 2 or 3 years have been the most incredible AND cheapest car care products on the market today. YOU DON'T NEED TO SPEND A BUNCH OF MONEY ON ALL THESE SNAZZY RAZZY PRODUCTS THAT DON'T DO ANYTHING BETTER!!!!!!
The S&S they sent you from the US is the brand new one, it isn't old. The old model had a silver spray top, it was updated once and still had the silver top with a "new" stamp just like your middle version called "sealant wax" in the UK. After a while they transitioned both ICE products that are left in the US (Spray wax and Seal and Shine) to black spray tops. You have the newest model that has added SIO2 and patented UV protection. Those that have tested the old vs new version argue the new one is slightly better. Looks like you have about the same thing in the UK with the updated model being your version in the middle but probably has different chemical make up. I don't see any info stating it has SIO2 like ours.
Your old S&S looks like it performs similar to our older version which I actually prefer. The beads were ridiculous for a spray sealant and I liked that it was a purely polymer product. Adding SIO2 to literally everything you have kind of negates having different products in the first place. You could top it with pretty much whatever you wanted if you were actually worried about UV protection. I'm sure it protected the paint just fine from the sun with the added carnuba.
Pound for pound, this is and has been since its release the best protection for your paint. TW probably made the greatest paint protection product of all time when they released S&S. It's amazing for anyone that uses it; enthusiasts, pros, moms with their soccer vans. Its absolutely amazing what you get for the money.
I should have read your reply before I posted my message - got 2 bottles from Amazon yesterday and they looked like the USA version except the word “ICE” is missing - so should be the latest (possibly best) version! Thanks for explanation 👍
@@colinmilne4634 You will win with any version, I have both on my shelf and they are both amazing performance wise. You will get a bit more durability with the latest version but it is minimal. The ultimate combo for the money is to top it with the ICE spray wax. That is a legit 6 months of protection unless you live in very harsh conditions.
Weird. So if I go on Amazon USA right now, they have the “old” US version on his Left (you call this the new one) it is $13.49 for 16oz. Product number 50984. The one with the silver top and large “ICE” logo and slightly different turtle wax logo (the old white turtle logo, not the new green one) it is $14.99 with a microfiber towel and 16oz. Product number 53223. Others charging 19.99 with no towel. Then scroll down and there are a ton of other TW products that confuse the crap out of you. They are all so similar.
@@KosmicHRTRacingTeam Yes, on US Amazon you can still buy the old version, even in bulk which I think is a great deal. The new version is a dollar cheaper but you don't get a microfiber towel with it, not a big deal. Funny because you can also get the UK version but it is more expensive.
I like the fact that you can spray them on wet paint, I like to dry and wax 🤘 I give credit to Turtle Wax for the pricing of their products, so cost effective.
Love the video as usual 👍
I have the old new improved and also the new seal n shine. I've done some test and they are the same solution and same smell. They have lasted the same amount of time and also bead and protect the same way. I'm sure it is the same solution just in a new bottle. I hoped that helped. Also another amazing vid. Cheers from Australia. 👍
Also - I think Pan did an interview with the Turtle Wax chemist and marketing exec and they explained the different versions/releases in US/UK. Can’t remember the details, but the interview’s still up.
I used the original Sealant Wax to coat the shower enclosure, the chemical resistance is great with all the wife's shampoos (lasts for months too and cheap to buy)!!! Currently testing IW Diamond Vision and AM Rain in the shower area.
Good idea.
Fantastic line of durable product's!! Great video jon.
The old UK stuff and Meguiars Hybrid Ceramic Wax are my two favourite products. Easy, shiny and long lasting - perfect!
I’ve found every TW Hybrid Solutions product to be outstanding. At first I was skeptical that it would be crappy Walmart junk, but oh was I wrong. Professional grade in every way
Yes very good products for the $$$, however to get a year of protection, you must apply two coats of the polish and two coats of the spray wax waiting 24 hours between coats. One application of Seal "n Shine and one application of ICE Spray Wax could get you the durability?
Was literally just trawling your old videos for your recommendation on these! Its been my go to drying aid/sealant. Seal & shine is what Turtlewax UK online store now supply even if you buy the old 'sealant'. Still seems good to me.
Seal n Shine is also super slick !
Incredibly timely video. I’m about to finish polishing my Mini (taking a little UA-cam break), and will be using Ice S-n-S afterward. BTW, I think raising the panel by the sides may make the center “lane” slightly concave, so the middle pad’s surface has slightly less contact/friction with the panel than the outer pads. Great video, as always! I’ve learned a ton from you (which I’m applying right now😊)!
There other range in the blue bottles is incredible, the spray on shine. Lasts for ages, but I often have streaking problems on my black car from it. Even shaking the bottle, instantly pressure washing off and not in direct sun. Other colours of car seem absolutely fine.
Nope, other are streaky too, the durability is quite nice, but damn I DON'T like working with this line-up, streaky as hell no matter what you doo, tryed to buff out immediately - streaks, watered down? Streaks.. Not for me, turtle is old news, many other better products out there
I remember I bought 3 bottles for $9 shipped on Amazon when it came out. Still have a brand new bottle.
Euros were doing an in store deal on Seal and Shine a few months ago. Remembered you testing it so thought rude not to give it a try.
Decided to test it on my Lorry first: I do roughly 1.5k miles a week, wash it once a week with autosmart TFR.... Still beading fairly well 2 months later 😮 and works a treat on glass!!
Totally agree with you Sam. Turtle Wax Seal and Shine is the most AMAZING stuff I've used in 50 years. SUPER easy to apply and take off. The key is that you MUST use very, very little or it will streak. I have found out that it only lasts for 2 to 3 months on my nice daily driver car that is NEVER garaged. Nobody knows that even the winter sunshine does almost as much damage to your wax protection as the summer sun. That's OK because there realistically isn't ANY wax that lasts any longer than 3 months on any car that is NEVER in a garage. All these tests that say their wax lasts for even 6 months is a bunch of B.S and must be based on a car that is garaged for 12 to 14 hours every day. I also use Meguires Shine as you Dry as a topper after every 10 to 14 day hand wash. NEVER use an automatic car wash!!!!!! And also, ALL these Turtle Wax Solution products are so-o-o-o cheap compared to all these super duper crappy expensive products that ARE NOT any better. Glad you are one of the very few people that has "seen the light".
Love my Turtle Wax spray sealant I always give the whole car a slight spray over before final rinse when washing
Glad I picked up a couple of the old sealant stuff from euros when it was around £2 a bottle back just before summer! It’s cracking stuff and I think it may be better the sonax BSD!
Thank you Jon, another excellent test.
I think these products are all pretty amazing for the money. None are something I would use, but for the everyday owner who washes their car once a month or something, and wants a quick & easy way to protect their paint, any of these are quite brilliant.
This is very similar to the Autoglym rapid ceramic spray. You can get the Seal N Shine of ebay, from Turtle Wax UK, 5 litres for £22.50
Seal n Shine is too good for the price. I’ve seen an easy 6 months out of it and can beat it UP with chemicals. Works great for mobile detailing with a wash,clay, seal type service
Good comparison Jon, thanks. I have the hydrophobic sealant and struggle on the black VW, but having watched a few videos, applying to the microfibre pad works better than applying to the panel.
It’s all in the buffage Jon as you say, keep the great vids coming👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
It used to be dirt cheap in the US, around $5.99. Now it is $14.
Stuff is awesome. It's really very chemical resistant and it will protect your car very good. Used up a few bottles of it. In fact you could use this for LSP and don't bother about other products.
Thing is that I like to try several brands and products but there are some that will always stay in my arsenal. I have the same thing with Sonax BSD😅
I got old hydrophobic already dont always go by what people say on youtube or forum. I think these are excellent.
Bought the old sealant one from B&M for 8 quid and it does a decent job
Me - still on my can of Megiars Ultimate Fast Finish which i bought in 2019.
Me - still planning to eventually buy a replacement wax/sealant when Fast Finish finally gets used up 😂.
Great informative upload as always.For sure i will be picking up one of the Turtle Wax products, since i haven't used them at all in more than a decade.
Been waiting for This , In Halfords now there’s a bottle with the exact same sticker as the ice seal n shine but it doesn’t say ice but the rest of the sticker is the exact same as the ice one
Err pretty sure that the first two areas got buffed with the same part of the cloth as you appeared to flip it twice. It might be in the editing of course. No big deal.
I thought that too
I was watching and noticed as Jon put the cloth down he flipped it, then picked it up and flipped it back. If it were me doing a demo I would have folded the cloth to make it impossible or use a new cloth. Anyway I have a couple of bottles kicking about so I’ll get right on it.
Hi John, thanks for this video. I hope that you will be able to do one of your mega-tests on spray waxes. These seem to get less coverage on detailing forums compared to sealants and paste waxes. I use Meguiars Ultimate Quik Wax which works well but it would be interesting to find out if there are better products in this category.
Had me howling during "The Count" 😂
I'm in Australia and we have the seal and shine new formula, well thats what it says on the bottle. This stuff is tenacious as. I use it on my wheels and its there wash after wash.
July 24 - Halfords are selling Seal N Shine 'US version''
Ahhh , good old - NEW AND IMPROVED!
in reality its - new and worse with cheaper ingredients
I use sns n every month I maintain with ceramic wet wax.result is amazing
Seal & shine costs $37 in NZ! Probably about 18.50 GBP. God bless Halfords😂
Seal n shine vs bsd vs ceramic spray coating vs hybrid ceramic wax
Jon, you used the same side of the mf cloth to buff the first two panels?
This is on Amazon but at £70.40 yes you read that right!😮
I hate this lineup, working with it is pfff at best, I'd rather put a decent ceramic and pay a little more
5 litres of Turtle Wax Seal n Shine Wax Sealant delivered to my door UK £22.50. Now thats a bargain for a top quality product.
Where did you get it from? Thanks
@@JWL-UK ebay i think mate
What wax wud you use on a new car mine don’t come till June July I was thinking Fusso 99 soft coat
I think Turtle wax have just made it less durable so you have to buy more.
Wrong.
Good morning Jon. Thx for info.
Whats the best durable and most importantly easy to use ceramic spray / sealant / wax?
I really need to know whats the 1 products is easy to use?
Im thinking to compare: seal n shine, graphene flex wax, to the max liquid wax, meguiars hybrid ceramic wax, sonax bsd
Its okay to apply between 1-2months
I had a expereic with hars to buff producs, i taken care of my paint with very2 safe washing and drying, but cuz the hard to buff products i used, it got me some minor scratches which overtime, more and more visible as time comes.
So easy to buff of products is the way for me
Any recommendations?
See latest video
takeaway from this is stick to green turtle and stay away from red one!
I have this particular ICE Seal and Shine version that you are describing as most durable of the 3. I have also a Wax and Dry wax. Question is, can I use TW Wax and Dry as topper?
Yes m8
You said about other products containing 'Si02' which other products don't come close to the turtle wax. But the new (or USA) version contains Si02. Can you confirm, does it contain such ingredient? On turtle wax website you can actually get that new printed label which your saying it the old USA version.
I can't confirm anything really m8 I don't make the product
Shocking!!! contaminated panel 2 with panel 1 microfibre towel, then contaminated panel 3 with the ceramic side of the applicator... Pretty ordinary test and comparison
Loving the Seal & Shine. My base wax is a 20 year old tin of Nielsen Liquid Gold, topped up with Autoglym super resin, but I use the Seal & Shine every other week to give a beautiful finish to my San Marino blue CS.
That bottle is the new bottle for USA product
hello Jon, have you used the older turtlewax Extra Gloss Sealer Wax with Titanium ?
and is the formula (ingredients) of Seal N Shine similar to the older Extra Gloss Sealer Wax from turtlewax ?
I have not
I wonder how S&S would compare with Nova Jet?
Maybe TW thought/realized that their cheaper stuff was great and decided to tame the formulation
But will it bond to Fusso
Hello Jon, would the tw new flex wax with graphene be better than this new seal n shine , overall ?
Not for durability no m8
@@ForensicDetailing Hi John! As I recently bought 5l BH Touchless, I didn't know, that is, a lot of them say on UA-cam that it's not very good to wash with ph-alkaline agent if the car has some kind of protection on the paint, so I'm interested in your answer, is it better to put protection, considering the resistance according to BHT, with 303 graphene nano (35E) or TW sealant hydrophobic wax (11.5E) or Meguiars HCW (16E) or sonax BSD (8E) and under it Polymer netShield (14E) or do you have some kind of better combination?
The sealant is quite hard to buff off but it's very cheap
I find with all of TW sprays - use a well rung-out damp cloth as an initial wipe off followed with a fluffy- buffer. Never a streak issue. A very minor extra step that may actually save you time. Shine on you crazy diamond!
Would you be able to test out tech582 with other. Unless you have already😁
Not sure if u can get in uk
I bought TEC582 a couple months ago to use as a drying aide and topper and it performs insanely well on my cars that are coated and ones that aren’t.
Great, so Brits bashed again
This the same products
Small differences
I've tried the new formula and I have to admit it's the worst spray product I have ever used, the old formula is alot superior on water water behaviour.
Turtlewax in the marketing department and chemist need to wake up because they took a decent product and flawed it down by the new formula God knows what they doing, give us the USA formula even if the chemicals need to be imported from the USA as its the holy grail of products, if you do that I'm certain people will pay 21 pounds for a bottle the same as meguairs ceramic hybrid wax, as the test show on youtube the USA formula is tough nothing breaks it down take a hint Turylewax.
Anyway I am going to stick with meguairs hybrid ceramic wax from now on getting ripped off as the graphene spray sealant is not up to the job as meguairs its the same price as well.
Shame as this product could destroy meguiars spray sealant only if we have the same ingredients and formula as the USA, Turtlewax will make a real comeback in Europe and will make alot of sales, its a complete flaw on a business stargie going on a less superior product especially when the USA version videos on UA-cam show mega impressive results on their formula.
Turtlewax is shitty
955th 😕👍🏻
Not a fan of the new turtle wax detailing product line up. I think there is better out there and for a cheaper price.
There are better out there, this lineup is old as dirt, but maybe not as cheap, but that's OK I rather pay a little more and have a streak free finish with A LOT less buffing out (the new seal and shine is super crap)
For the algorithm. Fab video sweetie
Excellent comparisons.
All ways watch when I can.
I notice that between first test and end of second test the same side of buff off cloth was used.
Currently using the sealant hydrophobic wax spray, great stuff and mega cheap.
I have found myself using this (the prior and now latest U.K. version) more and more in recent months as my main go to sealant and slicker/glosser. It’s always been quicker than many SiO2 sprays, as it can be used wet or dry - so I spray and dry with it, it doesn’t need to cure before it rains etc, and provides weeks of protection and is 95% as glossy as one of the best SiO2 sprays I use to use. Yes I could get months of protection. with another higher tech product but this is so quick and easy to apply after each wash it’s just part of my drying routine now, I hardly think about it, as I dry. Good value too. Not seeing the need to use anything else.
I want the old formula back. Now is garbage.
@@jusb1066 they could charge a little more to cover up the rise. I was used to buy a bottle at $8. I could pay something like $12- $14 as long keep it original
That's interesting I thought the sealant used to be better
FYI American Seal and Shine contains SIO2. That bottle looks like the newer bottle that you have there.
Hi Jon, after years using mainly Fusso & BSD and trying some other products in between, I've tried to give TW a go and picked up a bottle from TW UK website. The label on the bottle I got is very similar to the U.S version that you showed here barred the ICE logo. Application and gloss are very good, no streaks and seems to be more resistant to water spotting compared to BSD but it's still very early days for me. Thanks for the comparison video.
A year later, how did it hold up as the months went by? I'm in the same situation where I can't find the ICE Seal n Shine but I can find the Seal n Shine that looks identical bar the ICE logo, but I don't know how the formula/performance differs from that of the ICE line.
I wish they still sold Dry and Shine
Jon, here in the States, using the combo of Seal "n Shine & Ice Spray Wax will get you a year of durability on a daily driver. If not a daily driver, expect over a year. I have found nothing better for very little cost. I have been taking car of cars for 5 decades, and these products from Turtle Wax are amazing!
Totally agree with you Hartland! I've used a ton of different car care products over the last 50 years and finally woke up to these incredible Turtle Wax Solution products that have come out in the last couple of years. All these snazzy razzy high dollar products that are NOT any better are a bunch B.S. All anyone needs is a bottle of $10.00 Seal and Shine and any name brand bottle of quick wax to put on top of it each month and you are ready for any car show.
It's old news, many better products out there, Seal n shine is sooo streaky, working with it is a nightmare
I have never had a streaking problem with Seal N Shine? Some products with ceramics, wipe off first with damp cloth followed up with a dry one.@@victoryensured7137
I still love the dry and shine in the blue bottles. Works so well
Just bought 2 bottles of “Seal n Shine” from Amazon and the labels on the delivery look like the USA product except the word “ICE” is missing! It does say UV protection so it is the latest formula. Have just applied it to the wife’s car after a wash & hand polish and it was very easy to do. We will see how long it lasts but it will not be an issue to top it up.
1 thing i absolutely hate about these bottles the triggers snap i bought 3 bottles of the hydrophobic wax 2 snapped so now i have to manually push the trigger forward
I'm from the U.S. and must admit that differences in packaging has me a bit "not sure" as to which of the U.K. packaging matches up to the U.S.. That being said, I believe I can speak for most TW enthusiasts that the combination of the current version of ICE Seal&Shine with the ICE Spray Wax as a maintenance topper is a killer classic. The combination of durability AND gloss/shine is as good as ANYTHING on the market. And, at a VERY reasonable price.
Thanks for a really good vid here John. Shine on you crazy diamonds!
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@Joel Brooks yup.
First of, I really love your content!
It would be great if you could do a "self service car wash" guide, for all of us that live in an apartment, as well as minimalist detailing guide with the minimal amount of versatile products needed for car maintenance.
See fundamentals playlist m8
Great review. Been looking at this brand for a while now so may take a look. Cheers for video.
Thanks John so much for the review and the time you have spent very appreciated 👍 been waiting for this test.
It is a shame we don't in the UK have the same USA version as the rest of the world real shame, as we have the most severe winter with road salt.
I do believe if turtlewax UK use the same ingredients and content as the usa version this will sell like hot cakes and will compete with meguairs, just a real shame we don't have the best but anyway thank you for the review much appreciated
Great video. We all saw the vids from USA testing S&S a couple of years ago and kind of presumed that the stuff we got in the UK was the same but have always wondered if that was the case.
I wonder how UV light (sunlight) affects durability? I’d imagine more likely to be an issue in the real-world than chemical durability.
Hi John if I've prepped and polished and put say g3 supergloss paste wax on can I go over with turtlewax sealant
Cheers andy
I applied Fuso Coat early summer and just over a week ago I applied TWHS Ceramic spray. We'll see how that goes this fall. If I'm lucky I'll get to apply it again before it gets too cold and winter hits. Thanks for the video. For the price these products do a great job IMO
Have been using the original sealant for 3 years plus now. Can't fault it apart especially for the cost.
Bought seal and shine yesterday’s from Halfords
Try wax it wet it's 5 pounds a bottle very easy to use made by turtle wax
I was just looking at these in Halfords
Bro. UA-cam unsubscribed me from you. Been following you for months. Haven't seen you post in a while, sure as shit. I got pulled off from subscription.
welcome back!
Whats the key differences between seal and shine and dry and shine (blue bottle) here in the u.k ? Just finished bottle of gyeon wet coat so want similar product that can apply to wet car and just rinse of.
Dry and shine is a spray and rinse. Seal n shine is more spread spread and buff
Sir yes sir😇❤️🙏
Of course, we should all remember that chemical resistance is not the same as actual durability!!! Put UK old Hydrophobic Sealant Wax on a car and it will not last that long, 3-4 months typically and there are products that are less chemically resistant will be more real world durable. There will also be products that are rubbish t both! Also, for chemical resistance, try and see how the original UK Hydrophobic Sealant Wax copes against Koch Chemie FSe. You might guess that by me raising it, means that I know and it is very disappointing!
Main point though, chemical resistance isn’t the same as durability - weathering on the car is a factor and you’ll find that Car Plan SuperGloss Number 1 lasts longer in the real world. Test it!
you cant really use FSE to test durability as it contains PDMS which alters the hydrophobicity.
@@ForensicDetailing initially. I did a test to see if FSe affected the durability of sealants and waxes, when it was used as a QD/drying aid. Some were unphased (paste waxes, non ceramic polymer sealants), but the TW Hydrophobic Sealant Wax was easily the most affected. FSe wears off very quickly to reveal the underlying product, helped by a wash so it was an eye opening test. It’s on UA-cam.
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We did get the ICE range around 10 years ago... I have some 'synthetic wax in my garage with the ICE logo... its shit. Thats why its still in the garage 🤣 it would cause rainbows everywhere and make your paint greasy.
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Been loving this product since I saw you review it years ago. This and the dry and shine is unreal! I've had fantastic results with the original UK version. 💪