One of the movie pitches that fell thought was to have Arnold return as King Conan to pass the mantle of adventurer onto his son possibly to be played by the Rock. Too bad it never happened!
I never collected the Classics line, mostly because I wasn't into the subscription model of getting the figures, but for all the beautiful work that went into that line and all the great figures it produced, my personal favorite is also King He-Man. I just love everything about the way he looks. The crown, the beard, the scar, the busted up 200X Power Sword, the fact that he has to wear full armor now, the expression on his face. The coolest thing about that figure is you could show it to a fan of the original line of MOTU who hadn't been exposed to ANY other MOTU media, and they could be told so much story and history just be looking at King He-Man. It's amazing.
I was completely unaware of Classics when they were coming out, so my first experience with King He-Man was the Minis. I had no clue who he was and what his story was... This is a good look into that. Thanks.
Is it possible you could review each of the classics mini comics as individual episodes.. since they are almost impossible to acquire and no trade paperback exists?
' ...And low...did King He-man's heavy brow sulk as he pondered the whereabouts of his kingdom...his action figure...his story! But that tale...is for another time!' Love this figure and his concept art! Fantastic transition for our Prince Adam!
Haha, that Spector-flying car thing looked pretty cool. Would love to see some comedy relief stories w/Spector as a overly “toyetic” character with a cave of unused stuff and maybe he’s got a crash journal like launchpad McQuack from duck tales. Would love to see an excessive and over the top almost fever-dream like story for that character. He deserves to be funny.
Easy Rick and morty style formula mixed w/a mad, mad, mad, mad, mad, world. If you remember that movie. Lots of melbrooks and Monty python humor. Ok, GO!!!
I actually drew a King He-Man before I knew it was an actual thing 😂 . And coincidentally enough I drew him with a scar 😂😂. Guess you learn something new everyday, because I definitely did not know King He-Man was already a thing
Thank you for moving the line (lore) forward! I know some fans want everything to stay as it was. I find that rather boring and doesn't get me excited for new content.
Great video! Thank you! This was a very cool figure, and I love how it helped expand the mythos. Someday -- and I know I say this a lot, but I mean it -- when I get back home to my collection, I intend to make a hooded fabric cape for this guy.
This figure took a while to grow on me. I love the concept, though. I ended up taking parts off the figure and making two out of it; one a King Adam, and one a King He-Man after he uses what little power was left in the electronic sword. The mix-and-match-ability of this line really gratifies my imagination to this day.
The sword is certainly very exquisite. It does a magnificent job of telling us that it (the sword) has many stories to tell. It's easy to see why you favour this above all. \m/
I built Eternos City in Conan Exiles and outfitted it with the heroes. Spector is guarding a gate of Eternos City with Dekker in honor of your contribution to the brand.
It can be a tricky and complicated thing to keep a long time franchise going and to move forward.the one time I think it worked the best was when Star trek the next generation premiered.you do get push back from some because a lot of us can't picture out heroes ever aging.to me Luke Skywalker is still the young jedi we saw back in 1983.I got to say if I made a whole story and concept and toyline to move a brand forward and it got erased or wasn't even considered after I left I'd be a lot more upset then you seem to be about it.
So King He-Man vs King Adam, the best argument against it I found was that it undermined the importance of Adam, a common theme with He-Man was that Prince Adam was as important as He-Man and fans seem to like that and the message it gives - remember when that episode of 200X implied (possibly unintentionally) otherwise and everyone moaned? Your choice of King He-Man for the name wound up implying that this wasn't the case which gave a bad message and undermined the original message. Do I think that? No, not really, I'll be honest I never really gave much of a toss either way. On happier note: This video was really informative and really good.
Mattel actually still uses "paper" & not back it up "digitally"? Odd. No wonder so many ideas were "lost in transition". It sounded like an interesting idea though, too bad it never came to fruition. IDK which came 1st, but it kind of reminds me a bit of Marvel's "King Thor".
I am not sure this approach works long term for most brands. I think The Transformers and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles have long term success with doing reboots with the same characters that are the most popular. By the time brand cools off that "move forward" is thought to be necessary it is also probably a good time to reboot the story as well with the main cast.
Exactly. You stick with what brought you to the dance. MOTU is He-Man vs Skeletor. That isn't to say you can't explore side characters, but they are the main characters of the brand. Imagine making a Friday the 13th movie with no Jason, or a Fantastic Four comic without the Fantastic 4, or a TMNT toyline without the 4 turtles and Shredder. Only idiots or people severely out of touch think this way.
To the Spectormobile! Alas by not reprinting it, the elusive story bible was lost to the mist of time... and space. And a brand manager was accused again.
Was there ever any thought given to making He-Ro, Son of He-Man become the He-Ro of Preternia? It almost felt to me like that's how you were going, with the time travel shenanigans. The two He-Ros even looked alike.
Dare calling on the name of his predecessor reminds me of Freddy Freeman's power word being "Captain Marvel!" rather than "Shazam!" In this case I believe it's appropriate for the lightning to splash down with the sound effect "FLARP".
Anything is canon to itself. "Classics" is a mashup of a lot of elements of both the 80s and 2000 various continuities - so technically it is canon to nothing else in a strict sense except itself. Star Wars expanded universes use other continuities as apocryphal legends that may have a bit of truth to the primary canon.
@@benflay6038 agreed. But note also 200x isn't canon to Filmation. One of the problems NETFLIX just had was their advertising strongly implied it was canon to the 80s He-man (which of course it wasn't in any sense, just to itself and it was objectively tone deaf bad writing- and 80s could mean several things including Filmation or DC comics or the toy packaging). In "classics" case it is canon to "classics" toyline packages.
@@lucasbachmann exactly it's classic only made up by Scott. But classics was USA only so just that then not cannon no one knows unless you own a classics figure I never read it and as I said to Scott no way you can blend space he man in barbarian with 2000x doesn't work all it's own thing filmation 200x and let's pretend space didn't happen Like anti eternia he man cannon in Germany only The skelecons British lady bird books not fat how wide they went 2000x was cannon it's own story but worldwide mass distribution every one knows and best forget what ever that netflix was
8:55 - did you intentionally leave out John Connor? Because there is no way that scar isn’t a Terminator riff. I don’t care if you did _literally_ (help) design the damn thing, you’re still wrong! …Did I mention that I once had a desk next to the CEO of a shipping company?
This was a great idea but an awful figure. Terribly designed figure. It's actually quite shocking and impressive how you could screw up something so easy. ----------------- Comic characters and action figures are largely identified by their color scheme and key visual designs. King He-Man looked liked a Frankensteinian mess of different elements stitched together. He should have blended elements of King Grayskull/Randor/He-Man. He-Man is identified with brown, red, orange, silver. Your King He-Man has predominately green and gold? What the hell? He has He- Ro parts and influence? Nothing about King He-Man says "He-Man" to me. Horrible design in my opinion. The 4H way over thought this and screwed up.
That artwork of King He-Man definitely has some Conan vibes to it. A real "Heavy weighs the head that wears the crown" feel.
Exactly what I was thinking...but that is another story.
One of the movie pitches that fell thought was to have Arnold return as King Conan to pass the mantle of adventurer onto his son possibly to be played by the Rock. Too bad it never happened!
I never collected the Classics line, mostly because I wasn't into the subscription model of getting the figures, but for all the beautiful work that went into that line and all the great figures it produced, my personal favorite is also King He-Man. I just love everything about the way he looks. The crown, the beard, the scar, the busted up 200X Power Sword, the fact that he has to wear full armor now, the expression on his face. The coolest thing about that figure is you could show it to a fan of the original line of MOTU who hadn't been exposed to ANY other MOTU media, and they could be told so much story and history just be looking at King He-Man. It's amazing.
1:01 that King Conan pose :)
I was completely unaware of Classics when they were coming out, so my first experience with King He-Man was the Minis. I had no clue who he was and what his story was... This is a good look into that. Thanks.
Man! You continue to showcase figures I totally missed!….. guess I only payed attention to legacy characters and figures I had as a kid….
Is it possible you could review each of the classics mini comics as individual episodes.. since they are almost impossible to acquire and no trade paperback exists?
Dark horse comics did a hard cover of all the mini comics.
' ...And low...did King He-man's heavy brow sulk as he pondered the whereabouts of his kingdom...his action figure...his story! But that tale...is for another time!'
Love this figure and his concept art! Fantastic transition for our Prince Adam!
Exactly
my favorite He Man. It gives off an aura of victory and peace but still ready to defend Eternia with his life
Glad it is appreciated that way. A lot of love went into this figure
I could have gone another 40-plus years without ever having seen that picture of Skeletor on the battle cat rug. Unfortunately I can't unsee that
No. No you can not
This one and Snake Armor He-Man are two of my absolute favorites!
Worthy favorites
Fascinating
Haha, that Spector-flying car thing looked pretty cool. Would love to see some comedy relief stories w/Spector as a overly “toyetic” character with a cave of unused stuff and maybe he’s got a crash journal like launchpad McQuack from duck tales. Would love to see an excessive and over the top almost fever-dream like story for that character. He deserves to be funny.
Easy Rick and morty style formula mixed w/a mad, mad, mad, mad, mad, world. If you remember that movie. Lots of melbrooks and Monty python humor. Ok, GO!!!
Fear and loathing, across the sands of time!!
If only we could have made that!
King He-Man is one my most desired MOTU Origins figure. I hope we get him, He-Ro (both versions) and Skeleteen.
Yeah, totally. My others, I'd like 1988 movie versions and Shadow Weaver.
I actually drew a King He-Man before I knew it was an actual thing 😂 . And coincidentally enough I drew him with a scar 😂😂. Guess you learn something new everyday, because I definitely did not know King He-Man was already a thing
Everyone gets a scar as they grow older. There’s a program to get one stamped on your face if you need it.
@@johnmorey720 Ha!
Thank you for moving the line (lore) forward! I know some fans want everything to stay as it was. I find that rather boring and doesn't get me excited for new content.
Great video! Thank you! This was a very cool figure, and I love how it helped expand the mythos. Someday -- and I know I say this a lot, but I mean it -- when I get back home to my collection, I intend to make a hooded fabric cape for this guy.
This figure took a while to grow on me. I love the concept, though. I ended up taking parts off the figure and making two out of it; one a King Adam, and one a King He-Man after he uses what little power was left in the electronic sword. The mix-and-match-ability of this line really gratifies my imagination to this day.
That is really awesome
The sword is certainly very exquisite. It does a magnificent job of telling us that it (the sword) has many stories to tell. It's easy to see why you favour this above all. \m/
Awesome, thanks
Love your videos
Thank you so much! Any help reposting them and sharing is most appreciated
I built Eternos City in Conan Exiles and outfitted it with the heroes. Spector is guarding a gate of Eternos City with Dekker in honor of your contribution to the brand.
That is awesome.
Oh that is so cool!
I guess it's a good thing Man at Arms, was able to knock out a new sword before he got turned into a snake man! 😳
It sure was!
It can be a tricky and complicated thing to keep a long time franchise going and to move forward.the one time I think it worked the best was when Star trek the next generation premiered.you do get push back from some because a lot of us can't picture out heroes ever aging.to me Luke Skywalker is still the young jedi we saw back in 1983.I got to say if I made a whole story and concept and toyline to move a brand forward and it got erased or wasn't even considered after I left I'd be a lot more upset then you seem to be about it.
King He-Man also reminds me of King Conan from the ending of the first film with the beard and regal poise.
Very much so
Don't listen to haters love mighty spector
Amen
So King He-Man vs King Adam, the best argument against it I found was that it undermined the importance of Adam, a common theme with He-Man was that Prince Adam was as important as He-Man and fans seem to like that and the message it gives - remember when that episode of 200X implied (possibly unintentionally) otherwise and everyone moaned? Your choice of King He-Man for the name wound up implying that this wasn't the case which gave a bad message and undermined the original message. Do I think that? No, not really, I'll be honest I never really gave much of a toss either way.
On happier note: This video was really informative and really good.
7:27 - Ha! I thought I was the only one who randomly added Hebrew conjugations to the end of a list when a word has awkward pluralization.
Oh i do it all the time!
I'm still a little sad we never got a Skeleteen.
Me too
I like pairing up King He-man with Sorceress Teela from Masterverse. Shame they didn't have He-man become King He-man in Revolution.
Mattel actually still uses "paper" & not back it up "digitally"? Odd. No wonder so many ideas were "lost in transition". It sounded like an interesting idea though, too bad it never came to fruition. IDK which came 1st, but it kind of reminds me a bit of Marvel's "King Thor".
I am not sure this approach works long term for most brands. I think The Transformers and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles have long term success with doing reboots with the same characters that are the most popular. By the time brand cools off that "move forward" is thought to be necessary it is also probably a good time to reboot the story as well with the main cast.
Exactly. You stick with what brought you to the dance.
MOTU is He-Man vs Skeletor.
That isn't to say you can't explore side characters, but they are the main characters of the brand.
Imagine making a Friday the 13th movie with no Jason, or a Fantastic Four comic without the Fantastic 4, or a TMNT toyline without the 4 turtles and Shredder.
Only idiots or people severely out of touch think this way.
King He-Man is one of my favorite figures from the Classics line, his battle worn sword is an awesome touch!
Shame we couldn't get a Queen Teela Sorceress to go with him.
Indeed
8:45 Because kids love slides. Make it happen, Hasbro! Power Of The Force Freeze Frame Action Slides!
To the Spectormobile!
Alas by not reprinting it, the elusive story bible was lost to the mist of time... and space. And a brand manager was accused again.
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Just did this one in Dec!
@@spectorcreative1872 I'll check it out, Thanks!
Was there ever any thought given to making He-Ro, Son of He-Man become the He-Ro of Preternia? It almost felt to me like that's how you were going, with the time travel shenanigans. The two He-Ros even looked alike.
Even from the start we always had them as separate characters to sell more toys
@@spectorcreative1872 so you admit to being a scumbag. Cool
Shadow Weaver can have kids? Damn I thought she was like a ghost/demon-thing-lady
She is whatever you want her to be
Dare calling on the name of his predecessor reminds me of Freddy Freeman's power word being "Captain Marvel!" rather than "Shazam!" In this case I believe it's appropriate for the lightning to splash down with the sound effect "FLARP".
And that is how the old story bible had it!
Are the MOTUC mini comics available for purchase anywhere?
ebay
Plz make video about mossman
I did! Search the channel. :-)
It's Conan final scene. I like a great many did not read these comics so is it canon ?
Just a motu classics idea that was once
Anything is canon to itself. "Classics" is a mashup of a lot of elements of both the 80s and 2000 various continuities - so technically it is canon to nothing else in a strict sense except itself. Star Wars expanded universes use other continuities as apocryphal legends that may have a bit of truth to the primary canon.
@@lucasbachmann so no
@@benflay6038 agreed. But note also 200x isn't canon to Filmation. One of the problems NETFLIX just had was their advertising strongly implied it was canon to the 80s He-man (which of course it wasn't in any sense, just to itself and it was objectively tone deaf bad writing- and 80s could mean several things including Filmation or DC comics or the toy packaging). In "classics" case it is canon to "classics" toyline packages.
@@lucasbachmann exactly it's classic only made up by Scott. But classics was USA only so just that then not cannon no one knows unless you own a classics figure I never read it and as I said to Scott no way you can blend space he man in barbarian with 2000x doesn't work all it's own thing filmation 200x and let's pretend space didn't happen
Like anti eternia he man cannon in Germany only
The skelecons British lady bird books not fat how wide they went
2000x was cannon it's own story but worldwide mass distribution every one knows and best forget what ever that netflix was
I watched the nerd corp max steel series
I’d still push for a video game, … have Mattel kickstarter the idea.
Make it happen mattel
King He-man like looking in a mirror
Remember to take care of your voice during these recording sessions. It sounded gravelly toward the end.
I was sick with Covid at the time of this recording!
Who came up with the name Skeleteen?
1:46: THE most repeated story on Spector Creative… here comes the 500th viewing!
Oh i am just getting warmed up
He would look better with a red clock
And he would be able to tell Time
8:55 - did you intentionally leave out John Connor? Because there is no way that scar isn’t a Terminator riff. I don’t care if you did _literally_ (help) design the damn thing, you’re still wrong!
…Did I mention that I once had a desk next to the CEO of a shipping company?
Yeah well *I* have shopped for several things that were *delivered* by that company and I'm pretty sure that makes me an expert.
Point taken!
King He-man is a completely useless idea that was a waste of a slot, especially when you FAILED to produce a 2002 series sorceress.
Also useless: the moon
This was a great idea but an awful figure.
Terribly designed figure. It's actually quite shocking and impressive how you could screw up something so easy.
-----------------
Comic characters and action figures are largely identified by their color scheme and key visual designs.
King He-Man looked liked a Frankensteinian mess of different elements stitched together.
He should have blended elements of King Grayskull/Randor/He-Man.
He-Man is identified with brown, red, orange, silver.
Your King He-Man has predominately green and gold? What the hell?
He has He- Ro parts and influence?
Nothing about King He-Man says "He-Man" to me.
Horrible design in my opinion.
The 4H way over thought this and screwed up.