Yeah the B.R.A.D. robots really jumped the shark. The drones were fine, but the BRADs and how poor a Villian that Kash was really damaged my thoughts on season 4. I'm looking forward to seeing Kenji face off with his Dad next season.
I enjoyed season 4 for what it was glad to see the spinosaurus again.The cliffhanger with kenji's dad being the president of mantah Corp got me intrigued for the 5th season.
@@animezilla4486 I feel like kash as a character has potential to be an antagonist but he feels like more of a goofy nerdy character mixed up with the classic trope of a mustache twirling villain yes what he did with the baby dinosaur was disturbing. Other than that kash intrigues me.
@@Jose_Lopez08 I think Kash could be the main villain for season 5 I do agree that he has potential but my main problem with his character is that he froze temper tantrums like a child. What he did to that baby dinosaur which I think is a baby Brachiosaurus I cannot wait for the dinosaurs to have him for lunch
Seasons 1-3 felt fairly self contained and had their own Arcs (S1 Indominus, S2 Mitch and Tiff, S3 Scorpius Rex and escape) but Season 4 feels like Season 4 Part 1. It ended on a huge cliffhanger and didn't wrap up any storylines.
This is the problem with the ridiculously short seasons of the 2010s and 2020s. You really don't have the screen time to make truly in depth story arcs like you used to when seasons were 20 to 30 episodes long. Let's face it, these short seasons don't work well with half hour episodes either. Things like Game of Thrones have hour long episodes... so for the screen time to be on par, a half hour show should have double the amount of episodes.... Some of the people working on this show are from back in those days. I wonder if they just got carried away with the writing, and forgot that they can't do real seasons anymore. As an afterthought.... why do TV shows still have mid-season breaks? (I know Camp Cretaceous isn't doing it, because it's Netflix, but regular TV still does it) Those only existed because of long seasons.
I can’t believe nobody is talking about Yaz I thought she was by far the best character this season with her breakdown at the end of ep 4 being my favorite moment of the season I loved how they delved into her PTSD and how helping the dinosaurs wasn’t always the best decision
They didn't really do anything at all with the idea of not always putting the dinos before the group. They bring it up, then do absolutely nothing with it. Every single time. Honestly, other then Yaz having some hesitancy in one episode, and a couple of expository speeches, they didn't really do anything with the PTSD either. It was just window dressing. By the end of season 4 (which appears to be a very short period of time considering their new friend is still in bandages) she seems to be completely over it.
@@vadimbanner2024 I kind of wanted that too... It always felt like they were going to go Yaz and Kenji, then Darius and Brook. This season, it literally felt like it was going to be Yaz and Sammy though lol
I agree with you on most of these things. Another thing I felt the lack of was a main non-human antagonist. Season 1 had the Indominus rex and, most importantly, Toro as the main threats. Season 2 had the Baryonyx trio and the T. rex causing lots of trouble. Season 3 had the Scorpios rex(es). Season 4 has lots and lots of dangerous animals making a few appearances, but that's just it. The Smilodon appeared a couple of times before being taken down; the Spinosaurus had a few scenes, but it definitely wasn't the main threat; the two T. rex felt more like victims than antagonists; the Velociraptors didn't do enough; the Pteranodons go away as quickly as they came; and finally, the Dilophosaurus only showed up on the last episode for a few minutes. There are so many dangers in this season (and very few herbivores, by the way), but eventually the main non-human antagonists were the robots. Sigh.
True. I think the yellow raptors had the most potential to be the main dinosaur antagonists, since they constantly hang around Kashs base, and they could easily chase the campers through the hallways and such. It would also be pretty easy to replace a few of the robot chase scenes with Raptor chase scenes instead.
@@rebelliousreptile7336 Just saying at this point with robot tech in the universe so ahead why don’t you need dinosaurs anymore just use robots. They’ve literally in a universe about dinos made dinos irrelevant, you an just have a bunch of robots do everything any Dino ever could.
Obviously spoilers: The robots kinda ruined it for me. I could have lived with one robo dog we saw on the official season 4 picture a few weeks ago...but a whole army of robo dogs? And then they one up it and give us a whole army of robo dinosaurs that look like they're straight out of star trek? Idk. The dinosaurs were cool, but they didn't feel as threatening as they should. Jurassic Park showed us how dangerous the Raptors are....in CC you can stop them with a few drones. It's not a bad season, but probably my least favourite.
They definitely took a priority on the human plot lines and flushing ingen’s competition MantahCorp. I felt it was needed despite the dinosaurs being on the back burner, especially if these characters are to come back in future television products. The JP lore has been mostly writing so to see them put in practice is nice, but I agree it felt more like a soap opera with dinosaurs.
Yeah. The dinosaurs turned into a joke with the robots. The raptors were such a joke I half thought the tech dude was going to have a picnic right next to the raptors while laughing at them.
@@sjc5411 The characters have continually gotten too comfortable with the dinosaurs. They basically sit behind a tree 20ft from Two Tyrannosaurs casually talking and pecking away at a tablet. Same thing I hate about Jurassic World. Making jokes and pets out of dinos like raptors.
Personally, despite the fact that this was the least "Jurassic Park" season of Camp Cretaceous, I enjoyed it quite a lot. The season dealt with some really dark and heavy themes such as the dinosaurs made to fight each other, the mind control and Jasmina's PTSD. Witch brings me to my next point, I think that every main character had significant amount of growth and development this season. In another note, the action set pieces were really well done in my opinion, plus the dinosaurs behaved like actual animals, which I really liked. They even incorporated actual science with the head-biting behavior in T. rex. The technology apart from the BRAD X, was not that far fetched either. Drones and "robot dogs" are something that exists, and is used in the real world while holograms is something that exists within the Jurassic World franchise. The only bit I felt was out of place and kind of ridiculous were the dino-bots. Also I wish the used more dinosaur chasing instead of robots but it's ok I guess. Anyway, thank you for another great video.
Exactly my thoughts. The brads were awesome in my opinion. They make sense because a company in secret wouldn't want a bunch of workers risking there lives and being able to reveal there operation, plus the brads are disposable if a rex destroys one they just come back later and get its remains and build a new one. If it eats a worker they have all sorts of stuff to go through kinda like the first Jurassic park movie started with the raptor killing the worker. It just feels so in line with modern Jurassic park. But the 2 legged robots just look and feel terrible and wish they wernt in the show.
Man why would you need dinos if you can make an army of robot dogs just saying like. They robots are too powerful literally a bunch of Brad x’s can do anything i cease to understand the need for any dinos in this show anymore and that is sad.
@@pangrowlin3599 I guess building a giant robot proves to difficult. Though the whole point of the Indoraptor was downsizing I-rex so that it would be more effective. Who knows really.
Yes. "Boston Dynamics" and "Ghost Robotics". The BRADs reminded me of "A-X-L", especially when BRAD-X entered a quadrupedal state. The funniest moments to me were: 1. "Unable to quantify--whatever." 2. "You are so not alone dude." 3. The BRAD-X just staring at Darius when he asks if he's going to help. 4. Kenji making a bunch of noise in the desert. He used to be a spoiled rich kid, but now he's the funniest character!
@@richardduncan2954 Indeed! Though under a certain light, sometimes BRAD-X was a little intimidating and terminator-esque. Especially when the eyes were red. A humanoid shark lizard bot. How long do you think before robots can replace the military so nobody has to risk their lives?
My 10 year old daughter was like "Watch it be the boys dad! He's the only parent we have gotten extensive background on." I'm like "No way! That's silly! Why would his dad not be trying to find him? They knew the girl was still alive as she gave the DNA samples to the drones! Why not just use a drone to look for his kid?" Then she was proven right and I'm just left with more questions then anything.
Season 4 had a couple of pretty glaring plotholes. 1) How did they survive the Mosasaurus destroying the boat? They looked like they were still pretty far from the island when it breached and landed on the boat. Then smash cut to them waking up on the beach. 2) How in the heck does Kenji not know his father is the head of Mantah Corp? They've talked about Mantah Corp for three seasons now. Overall it was ok, but they need to reign in the sci-fi robots and stuff. The dinosaurs got upstaged waaaaaaaay too much.
1. Plot armor. XD 2. Daniel is so distant that Kenji had no idea what he was ever up to. I bet that Kenji saw the old man like a few times per year, maybe less.
It was the audacity of the editors to make mosasaurus, the size of a t-rex in that scene. Megaladon and Mosa has almost equal lengths and I'm pretty sure that Meg's whole upper fin can be lengthened to atleast 80% of the boat's length. I think the reason why kenji doesn't know it because I'm pretty sure he said in season 1 and 3 that he and his father didn't have much of a connection and that his dad never had time for him
1. Maybe the boat was so broken up that the kids could be found. 2. After the events of Jurassic world the dad bought out a competitor to get revenge on Dino’s for killing Kenji
@@blazethecursed And that may be why he grew cold-hearted towards the dinos and treated them as nothing more than assets rather than living beings. This was the case with Claire.
Another problem with the Spino in season 4 was that it just kept coming back as a problem every time they went to the desert and had no real effect on the story
I give this season a 5/10 or 6/10 It's ok I feel like the odd numbers like season 1 and 3 are better but the even numbers are the less good ones like 2 and 4 But I'm still excited for a season 5
I actually really liked Season 4. It was nice to see the Dilophosaurus again after all these years! This season tackled some serious issues like Animal abuse and PTSD. It was hard for me to watch Big Eatie being forced away from her daughter to fight. It was also cool to see a Saber Tooth Tiger tho they could've also had some Mammoths in the winter biome.
I concur! I'd like to see a dodo bird. The robots reminded me of "A-X-L", especially when BRAD-X entered a quadrupedal state. The funniest moments to me were: 1. "Unable to quantify--whatever." 2. "You are so not alone dude." 3. The BRAD-X just staring at Darius when he asks if he's going to help. 4. Kenji making a bunch of noise in the desert. He used to be a spoiled rich kid, but now he's the funniest character!
I also loved when the Pteranodon went splat! My unsubstantiated guess is that the original Camp Cretaceous seasons were far more of a success than they predicted and was renewed for longer than the original plot roadmap was written for. That's why I think season 4 fills a bit weird with all the elements you mentioned because the writers just dumped whatever they could think up in order to pad it out until Dominion was closer. Contrast to JW Evolution 2's story which took the opposite approach and ended up feeling barebones. Still overall enjoyable. I think the group dynamic is as strong as ever and definitely what kept season 4 afloat.
I would give it a 6.5 at best. Things I liked about it: Nice to see the characters were dealing with PTSD, loved seeing the Spino again, I liked the cliffhanger at the end, and I my favorite scene was when the Spino killed the smilodon as well. Things I disliked: Too many robots, I thought the Dino-communication tablet was overused, and I didn’t really like the addition of romance although I saw it coming BUT I liked how the romance was cringy given that is how it is at that age. Overall as a solo non-Jurassic story it would be great and if they limited the robot screen time then it would be higher score
This season definitely made a lot of questionable choice's such as the robot's and such, a part of me feels like this season sacrificed a lot of good elements about the show to be "cooler" and a lot of things in the season felt rushed and forced such as one certain relationship that I won't get into don't get me wrong this season still has a lot of good stuff about it but overall I'm going to have to say this is my least favorite season of the show hopefully season 5 will be better 6/10 but I'd love to hear everyone else's opinion.
As somebody who is the age of those characters I can 100% confirm that is how it would have played out Kenji heck is up with the rich people and knows how to put the moves on but he’s never had to connect with somebody emotionally so his awkwardness and daydreaming is incredibly accurate obviously the relationship progressed a lot faster than it would have in school but that’s because there’s spending 100% of their time together
I was just glad the Spinosaurus and Dilophosaurus made their return after year's of being absent, even though they were underutilized. I thought the whole Kenji and Brooklyn thing was really forced, I personally prefer if none of the ships happen because one of the main themes about this show is friendship, kinda like The Land Before Time. Camp Cretaceous Season 4 as a whole was just ok, I hope Season 5 is better.
@T-Rexkid 117 Yeah your theory could be correct in Season 5. I hope your right. I personally thought Kenji had more chemistry with Yazmina than Brooklyn.
@T-Rexkid 117 just for interest i've rewatched all cc from season 1 to 3 and counted the interactions between characters that had development and the tally is: kenji with everybody except darius is around 2, kenji with darius around 5, darius with brook around 6 and the leaders sammy and yaz/ben and dariys around 10, all other interactios where surface level, and for another all the interactions of brook and kenji happened between ep 6-10 of s3, so smth is def up
@Derek Lopez While I get not liking relationship sub-plots, you say that Kenji/Brooklynn "was really forced" as if you don't remember how much closer they got in S3Ep6-10, relating to/helping each other work through their personal issues. Besides that, 1 of the other ships has been happening since WAY before S4 (I.e. S1Ep3).
My take on the mother rex is that she's a new, previously unseen individual. She looked more like a kind of blue/gray than green to me, and then just the fact that she's confirmed as female on top of that, with the other being her daughter rather than her mate. It's likely that they cloned more rexes beyond the four adults seen in the first three films, and we have no way of knowing how many wild-born rexes there are in addition to the baby in The Lost World. 20 years have passed since JPIII, which is definitely enough time for a T. rex to reach adulthood. Like you, I too wondered if perhaps they had some different ideas which were reworked. Perhaps on orders from above, because Trevorrow and his crew plan on tackling Sorna in Dominion, and they didn't want this season to spoil or contradict anything? One possible explanation could be that the idea is for Sorna to be empty by the time of Fallen Kingdom and later Dominion, so this was a way of having dinosaurs *from* Sorna without having the story take place on the island itself.
I think this was a mistake, because sometimes they refers to the green one as She, and other times as He. And besides that, this may be not canon but it may help. On Lost World Trespaser, it is said that InGen cloned a total of 8 rexes.
John Hammond mentioned a total of 8 Kings being cloned on Isla Sorna, in Trespasser, even if the canonical status of it is ambiguous at best, it kind of makes sense if you think about though, this new pair of rexes might be a subtle reference to Trespasser, in my opinion
I think also the 8 Rexs was mentioned in the Ingen list? But I do agree that the mother rex was grey/blue. I also think it could be a rex we have never seen before, maybe Big Eatie is the lost world baby rex's baby?
My own review: The Cons: 1. Or should I say the KONS because honestly, Kenji is my least favorite camper on this season. Compared to the last two previous seasons, his development to becoming a much more independent but caring personality is kinda thrown off. He's much more dependant on Brooklynn and I kinda hated his mood swings because it didn't really feel like Kenji. I wished that he had gotten a leader role on this season, especially when Darius is missing instead of depending on Brooklynn for everything, because that will set up his character much better for this season. 2. And speaking of Kenji, can I just say I'm not a big fan of his rather sudden romantic relationship with Brooklynn. While I don't mind the age gap (it's honestly not that big), what I really find iffy is that they have practically NO buildup towards becoming a romantic relationship for the last three seasons. I enjoyed their relationship when they are a friend. But as a whole, Brooklynn had way more chemistry with Darius, especially in the last three seasons. Brooklynn and Kenji is basically the Gwuncan (Total Drama ship of Duncan and Gwen) of Camp Cretaceous. I don't intensely hated it per se, but it just feels off. 3. Yet again Jurassic World series kinda falls into the "comically evil antagonist" trope with Kash introduced. Although I guess it's kinda expected, but as a villain, Kash kinda fails. Most of the time, Kash didn't really pose a lot of danger outside of controlling deadly BRADs, and is overly comical and frankly, kinda stupid. I'm not a big fan of comical new villains of Jurassic World outside of Dr. Wu, though I hope the addition of Kenji's Dad can finally put an end of overly comically evil villain trope of Jurassic World. 4. For the most part I feel like Sammy is pretty sidelined, which is a shame, and considering now the campers have a big bad in form of Mantah Corp, Sammy SHOULD HAVE played a WAY bigger part. Considering the fact that Kash is the one who blackmails Sammy's family, I'm surprised at the fact they basically have ZERO interactions throughout the show. Sammy has expressed her rage at her blackmailer, but that rage is practically forgotten the subsequent episodes. I think she should've gotten kidnapped instead of or alongside Darius, so we can explore the Mantah Corp problems on her side because it's not even fully explained what they did to her or her family The Pros: 1. One thing that Camp Cretaceous NEVER fails is the way they portray the dinosaurs. It's always perfection. You can definitely tell that the T. rexes aren't cold blooded monsters they always get portrayed on the media. I loved how Pierce the Kentrosaurus had a distressed behavior of a herbivore and is not afraid of defending itself when panic. I can't really express it in a detail, but everything about the dinosaur behavior and movements are just awesome for the most part, and they really put an emphasis on they're living and breathing creatures instead of movie monsters. 2. I'm originally kinda iffy on the Sci-fi parts of the show, but after the watch, they honestly aren't as out of place as I thought they would. They're just as realistic as cloning dinosaurs from extinction. And honestly? I really loved the man made setting of it. Now we can have so many different kinds of locations like desert, snow, or swamp instead of fully tropical jungle area of Isla Nublar. And the BRADs, despite the stupid acronym, pose a pretty great threat for the most part. 3. Many of the scenes are SUPER intense. I legitimately felt nervous for the campers when they are in face of a danger, like the Mosasaurus, the sandstorm, the BRAD attacks, or other dinosaur attacks, it's just as on par as the previous seasons. And not to mention, some of the scenes are just straight up a huge tearjerker, despite often involving the dinosaurs itself. You can definitely tell the baby Brachiosaurus is in so much pain when it is forced to stop, you can tell the T-rex is in so much pain after their violent battle, and the last scene with Bumpy is just heartbreaking. 4. I loved the different take of the usual dino battles of this season. Instead of the usual "hero vs villain" battle, we have the forced to battle kind in this season. You can definitely tell neither the T. rex nor the Kentrosaurus wants to battle, but are forced into one small arena because of the drones. I loved instead of making us rooting for one of them, it makes us rooting for them to STOP. The T-rex is established as the mother of an injured daughter and the Kentrosaurus is established as the dinosaur that Dr. Mae has raised for long and has a name. This just makes seeing them hurting each other extremely painful to watch, just like real life animal battle arenas. 5. Ben jumped from the least favorite camper to my favorite camper of this season. He's no longer being terribly obnoxiously brave like in last season or obnoxiously paranoid like in first season. He had a great balance of bravery from the development he gets from the last two seasons and the much more toned down fear he had in the first season. And the way he interacts with the baby Brachiosaurus is just adorable, and i loved how he finally didn't have the overattachment towards the dinosaur he cares like in previous season. 6. I loved how they portray Yaz's trauma here. It just shows how desperate she is to return home and is just enough of all dinosaur encounters. Her breakdown when she heard intense roar of the dinosaurs and her desperation when they got left out once again is really emotional. And of course, her relationship with Sammy is always a great treat and I lowkey wished we got more of them instead of Brooklyn and Kenji 7. The Dilophosaurus and Spinosaurus finally makes their grand return after a VERY long time of absence in big screens, and I couldn't be happier. While I feel like it's a shame that the Spinosaurus isn't the main dino antagonist like i hoped for, it's still great to see them return. I also loved the Smilodon and the Spinosaurus and Sinoceratops hybrids as well, despite my sceptism.
Nice. I feel like people tend to forget that they're no longer on Nublar and things are no longer overseen by InGen ot Masrani, which are the main companies in the films and treat the dinosaurs differently. But the films start to address the idea of weaponizing dinosaurs and Mantah Corp just has different means to do so. I think, the robots are used to assist them in monitoring and handling them first You know, I've said it before, but I think Mantah Corp kinda reminds me to some fans with their dino vs dino shindig
I definitely have mixed feelings towards this season. I guess I'll list the things I liked and didn't like. *Positives* • The dinosaur action throughout the season was super fun! • I enjoyed the character development between the characters (especially Yaz). As a side note, the romance stuff didn't bug me like it did for other fans. • It was great seeing the Spinosaurus and Dilophosaurus make their long awaited comeback! Really brought out a lot of Nostalgia! • Finally the Ceratosaurus gets an intense and exciting scene to itself! We're long past the sniffing poop days thankfully! • It was cool seeing the Smilodon be introduced into the film canon! This opens up a lot more possibilities for the franchise. • THE CLIFFHANGER!! *Negatives* • I really wasn't big on the robots. I feel like they took up way too much screentime that should have gone to the dinos. At first I was okay with the normal Brad's, but the Brad X's were a bit too much for me. • Kash was kind of a one note villain. To be fair, I don't normally watch the Jurassic franchise specifically for the human villains (unless we're talking about Henry Wu or Dodgson). It was cool they got Haley Joel Osment to voice him though! • I wish the Spinosaurus, Dilophosaurus, Smilodon, and Ceratosaurus had more screen time. This ties into the robot thing. This is more of a nitpick though. • The cliffhanger from Season three ended up being kinda pointless. There wasn't really any sort of payoff. Overall even though I have more positive things to say over the negatives, I still think this season was a bit more of a mixed bag for me. It was fun and enjoyable, but I think it could have been better. But it also could have been worse. I'm still excited for season 5, and I'm curious as to how this is all gonna play out! I just hope the robots don't overshadow the dinos next time. I'll give it a 6/10! Anyway sorry for the long comment, but I wanted to be as detailed as possible!!
I think one thing they might not have anticipated with the Brad-x design, is that... as bipeds, they feel less unique. Quadrepedal robots are something we have now, and a four-legged enemy is something rarely seen in jurassic... I know it sounds weird. I dont know... the Brads were just way cooler than the Brad-X's, and they never really justified the brad-x's switch creation, or reason for existing.
@@urktheturtle2988 they kinda did, but it was shallow, Kash was tired of the v1s getting destroyed, so he made them indescribable. Still not satisfying, but is was it is
Although I did find it kinda hilarious that Cash kinda looked and acted like a stereotypical Neckbeard Nerd/Incel type individual especially when you consider the fact that he looks extremely similar to Hal from the movie Mega Mind who is also like that. I never actually thought I’d see a Neckbeard villain in a Jurassic Park show but I guess I was proven wrong.
There was good and bad in Season 4. Good: 1) Daniel Kon, Kenji's Dad being the leader of Manta Corp. It gives us an antagonist to be connected to and a way for the children to get off this new island. It also potentially gives them the means to go back to Nublar to get Bumpy. Perhaps changes how things go. 2) Darius' brother coming to the rescue potentially as an avenue to get Roxie and Dave back in the story. I understand why they were written off the show for the story they want to tell, but I am hopeful for their return. Hopefully, using Darius' brother the families of other characters may be seen. Like Sammy's family. 3) The various biomes to see dinosaurs in other elements. It was done a little too sci fi but the idea was good. 4) More dinosaurs being shown and returned. Always a good thing, never will be a bad thing. Bad: 1) Kenji x Brooklyn. Outside of flirting in the first episode which was clearly not meant as interest, it feels like this was completely forced in order to be a point of conflict in the next season. I also feels this lessens the anger that Kenji had with Darius at the end of Season 3. The "I was mad because I love her." is not compelling to me, and is to me a bad lesson to have in a children's show. Kenji being mad because he felt Darius didn't value the friends enough would have been more compelling. 2) BRADs and BRADXs, I can get behind a robot dog patrolling areas. I can get behind it having a robot voice. What I can't get behind it is somehow being able to think or at least appearing to think. Especially the BRADXs. And I don't like the BRADX design. The show would have been better if the BRAD upgrade made some sense. The BRADX upgrade feels like a way to sell more toys rather than meaningful to the story. So, BRADs are not a bad concept, but was implemented poorly. 3) That they somehow introduce multiple ways to control Dinosaurs to make them fight or do what you want. It is just confusing to me. You have Mae's research, the control chip, the drones, and the food material. Too many things to do the same thing all introduced close to one another. Pick something and go with it. 4) Minor, but pissed me off. Don't make me sad for Bumpy! I wanted to believe Bumpy was living a happy life on Nublar with the other dinos. I don't need to know that Bumpy is calling out for Ben before going to sleep alone at the abandoned camp. I swear if Season 5 doesn't have Bumpy taken off Nublar to live with Ben, I am going to scream. Overall, it isn't bad. It is average and the weakest season imo. It sets up a lot with little payoff to reward watching it.
About the first two points: I completely agree with you (especially with the design of the BRADXs.... they looked so out of place) I have something to say about your third point: The control chip was based on and used Mea's research and the food was just to test what happens if the dinosaurs reach certain anger levels. Oh and the drones were used before Kash knew about the research and they were mostly used to move the dinosaurs or contain them in one place. And to your fourth point: Yeah I hate them for doing that :(
@@Cha0S_Hybr1D To clarify, I don't mean it is confusing because it doesn't have an explanation, it is just confusing to have all those things in the series so quickly to one another. It makes the story a bit of a mess. There was ways that they could have potentially shore that up and didn't introduce so many ways of attempting to control the dinos so quickly.
@@darththeo Yeah you're right it all came too quick, (I think a few thngs even came in the same episode...). If they would have stretched it a little bit mor it would have benn fine.
I forgot about that, when the Smilodon left, they were all like "Yay, we beat a tiger!" but they didn't question how and why there was a living Smilodon in the middle of nowhere. Also I'm kinda disappointed at Darius cuz he's supposed to be a nerd with lots of dinosaur and prehistoric creature knowledge, yet he called the Smilodon a "saber-toothed tiger" and not the more correct term "saber-toothed cat".
@@cintronproductions9430 perhaps his knowledge is only limited to dinosaurs, not what comes after mesozoic era. His knowledge is previously more of book-based than hands-on though
This series basically took Yasmin, Kenji, Brooklyn and a little bit of Darius in play. Ben and The other girl (I forgot the name) just had a countable number of scenes. S4 was kind of disappointing to me
This series basically took Yasmin, Kenji, Brooklyn and a little bit of Darius in play. Ben and The other girl (I forgot the name) just had a countable number of scenes. S4 was kind of disappointing to me
Scan Command was a big part of my childhood, which is probably why I really appreciated these story elements in Season 4, even if they might not feel completely coherent within the Jurassic Park universe.
Personally speaking, i thought this season was a bit meh it was nice seeing the Spino, i really liked Dr May and i would die for Rebel and Angel that being said Kenji and Brooke being a thing felt really out of nowhere. The spino while it was great to see him he did kinda nothing and I would have liked to see more Ice Age animals Overall id give it a solid 6/10
I would say the same thing, but maybe it’s because of how good season 3 is, season 4 feels like it doesn’t like perfectly live up to its full potential. I mean i enjoyed the season but it’s more on the sympathetic side. It just has some enjoyable moments.
My thoughts are complicated, but i overall enjoyed it The flashy high tech stuff can be off-putting, but there's some really great themes of animal abuse for profit being explored there that i wish the movies dealt with as well The tyrannosaurs being forced to fight each other, and Firecracker being controlled were legit hard to watch for me (in a good way) Plus i respect them addressing PTSD like they did
Man I’m sad the robots in the universe are so high tech that it’s not really a dinosaur focused show anymore when the robots are more influential to the plot than the dinos are like. And the obsession with hybrids especially a harmless one it’s dumb when you think below the surface.
@@pangrowlin3599 um... the dinos are still there, they're just the subject of cruelty this time around. The whole season is basically all about rescuing and freeing them from Mantah Corp if you think further
@@aryshandono3249 I’m not talking about the stories but the mechanics of the universe, the universe now has robots with capacities and threat above and beyond that of dinos
@@pangrowlin3599 let's just hope this mechanic is only limited to Mantah Corp Though I think it's the closest thing that we have to reality since they are based on actual existing robots in our universe. Vic Hoskins also mentioned robots, so it's not really outlandish, as they don't really outshine the dinosaurs
I thought the season was fine. Loved the new dinosaurs and rexes, but I would've loved there to be more focus on them rather than the robots which I thought were dumb
I liked the BRADs, but the BRAD-X-es were a step too far. I would have preferred to just have a direct BRAD upgrade instead. Loved the return of the Spinosaurus and Dilophosaurus, and hope they get more time next season. Also glad the Ceratosaurus got more secret time. Liked seeing the Smilodon, but annoyed it got offed in it’s second scene. Hope there’s another somewhere on the island. Kentrosaurs got solid screen time, and I like herbivores getting more appreciation. The… Spinoceratops? Sinosaurus? Whatever the species name for Rebel and Angel is. Liked them, it’s about time we had an herbivore hybrid. Loved the Rex family, hate we didn’t get to see them at all after episode 7. Tho if the daughter died… props to them for killing off a Rex. Liked Mae, definitely a favorite, but like the Rexes, she really got sidelined during the second half of the season. Liked the reveal of Kenji’s dad being the Mantah Corp CEO. Definitely can lead to some interesting moments with Kenji and Sammy next Season. Brooklyn/Kenji was weird. It got better later in my opinion, but if we had a romance as focus, would have preferred Darius/Brooklyn or Yaz/Sammy.
Fun fact : if you look closely some shots of the Spino when he chases Darius, you can see that he has some sort of spikes under his chin, probably due to the fact that he is more aged than in JP3
Here’s my quick review of this season Pros: - The Spinosaurus is back - The Dilophosaurs are back - The PTSD subplot - Kash as a villain - Main characters were all great, as usual - Dr May is great - The new hybrids are cute and awesome to see - Nice to see Brooklyn take up the leadership role - Cliffhanger at the end was cool Cons: - Romantic relationship came out of nowhere - The inclusion of the bipedal dark trooper robot dogs (why do they even exist?). - Flash drive with Dr Wu’s research is completely forgotten - So many missed opportunities (T-Rex/Spinosaurus rematch, more hybrids, lore connections to JW:E2 Chaos Theory mode for JP3, dinosaur on the boat not being a Compy, diversity in animals species, etc.) - Kenji/Darius conflict dies in the first episode - Have yet to see any connection to Dominion Overall grade for Season 4: C+ My grades for the other seasons are as follows: Season 1 - B+ Season 2 - B- Season 3 - A (Sorry this is a long comment, but I had a lot going on in my head)
I’ve been waiting for Klayton’s review. I think he was far more generous than I am. It sucked. They took the momentum gained through the first three seasons and drove it into a brick wall. 4/10 Brooklyn’s sudden tech prowess was a lazy way to solve some glaring issues the group faced. The biomes were ridiculously convoluted and technologically over-advanced. Forgiving those grievances, they weren’t even utilized to introduce new, climate specific dinosaurs. Yutyrannus, Edmontosaurus, or even a wooly mammoth would have been amazing to see in the Arctic biome. Also, the way they determine that the hybrids aren’t compatible with a given biome is because the Dino’s are sleeping? Really? The plot armor seemed to be at an all time high with this season. If the only way to get these kids out of a situation is to write in a highly implausible work around, maybe don’t put them in said situation. I understand it’s a show, but the fact that these apex predators become slow, bumbling lummoxes when pursuing the children is too much. The robots were just stupid. I don’t even feel the need to elaborate. Just stupid. The relationship (you know which one) ruined the friendship dynamic of the group. Should have left it out. Especially Darius’ reaction. The fuck was that? Edit: Holy shit… after rewatching the first few episodes of Season 1, the progress in dynamic between Darius and Brooklyn was pretty significant. They really messed up with the Kenji & Brooklyn thing. I don’t know how they’ll move forward from this, but it took the wind out of the shows sails.
I agree with you. The start of season 4 was different but worked, by the end it flopped. I was also thinking if they formed relationships in the show it would be Brooklyn and Darius, not Brooklyn and Kenji. Kenji seems more suited for Yaz because they both look a bit older than the rest. I think this season had a lot of potential, but failed in execution.
@@user-ww2rq9dd4q It depends on what fits what franchise thematically..genetic engineering is literally the entire point and honestly..the generic technology is actually scary and powerful that we even know about. Not even what governments keep classified- cloning IS not only possible,but is real. So are robots,but that goes back to-is heavy robots presence in Jurassic good for the series? I think other than drones or generic lab manufacturing,not really.
I think Season 4 was pretty good. High highs and a few low lows. I really liked that the addressed the kids have some serious PTSD after the first 3 season, I thought the new island was interesting and I thought the dino fight club idea works with this world. Looking forward to seeing more!
THANK YOU! My thoughts exactly about Kenji's dad being the owner of Mantah Corp. With full access to the park, contacts, being close with Masrani and having his own condo on the island, why would he need to blackmail a random farming family to send their teenage daughter to collect something as simple as saliva samples? Even if Daniel Kon doesn't want to do it himself, he has employees, people in JW who trust him and his own son was ALREADY going to CC! It's just not been thought out in the slightest. Mantah Corp's plan to just make dinos fight is also poorly thought out. How is that going to be profitable? Kenji's dad is apparently a rich business tycoon but he has no idea that killing half of their incredibly pricy assets isn't going to make bank on pay per view or something? Even their experiments were so poorly thought out or controlled; "we want to know if this dino can withstand low temperatures so let's just throw it in the polar bio dome, leave it unattended and see if it dies". Seriously?? Some of that can be down to Kash being terrible and impulsive but Kenji's dad is the one who put him in charge. May's dino communication tech wasn't even Mantah Corp's plan, it was JUST dino fights. I can't get over how little effort was put into the writing of this season. Kenji's dad is going to go bankrupt at this rate and becomes a less interesting "villain" because he is clearly just an overgrown man child who wanted to live out his childhood dream of watching dino fights each other at any cost. Such wasted potential for a company like Mantah Corp!
I loved this season! The PTSF, the romance, how demented and childish the villain was. Ya know Darius did not get much story arc time past season 1. So this was his time to show how smart he's gotten over the seasons as a leader and really listening to other people. So Kash was meant to show has smart and grown-up Darius has gotten.
I hated this season. So much over-the-top sci-fi baloney that it was unrecognizable as a Jurassic story. I dearly hope none of it bleeds into Dominion.
I saw kenjis father reveal coming. At the beginning of the season I thought it would be Dotson but once Brooklyn and the others started talking about how good of a father kenji would be I knew it would be his father.
It was the freakiest scene I have ever seen in camp cretaceous. First Brooklyn finds out kenji likes her so she likes him, then on her time simping for the dude, she's talking about how great of a father he is! And this is coming from a 13/14 year old! Like if she was older then the audience who didn't like their relationship would've let it slide. But shes young, and has the thoughts of starting a f@#&$&$* family with a 17 year old! And then there is the reveal at the end which I'm looking forward to.
I was surprised at the end, but in retrospect, him showing up and keeping an air of mystery should have made me suspicious. That meant he was important somehow and we only knew one rich guy with a questionable character in the series and that was Kenji's dad.
It feels so weird to me because they paried up the oldest boy and youngest girl. Sure, they're only 2 years apart, but she looks 12 and him a teenager. It also came out of nowhere, I thought I was the only one who thought she would be paired with Darius, but looking at older fanfics it seems like it was the obvious pairing.
I didn't like it until I thought on it a bit. I felt like they had the best chemistry of the bunch (not that that's a high bar or anything) after the CKK scene in season 1. It's still one of my favorite character exchanges in the series. Kenji listened to Brooklyn and understood her frustration but also knew what Brooklyn needed to hear just by virtue of the type of interpersonal relationships he had before then.
In “Staying Alive”, Kesh mentions moving asset 87 into the dessert, and the only Dino out there past that point is the spino. So I think the spino came from a different biome, possibly the swamp one at the end of the season.
It's definitely a big stepdown from the previous seasons, but despite it's flaws, I still enjoyed it, so I would give it a either a 5/10 (Mixed Bag) or a 6/10 (Okay).
I don’t think those rexes are the ones we saw in the lost world. One is blueish and brownish green, so don’t worry klayton. Those probably some of the other rexes they cloned.
The cliffhanger at the end with Kenji's dad being president of Mantah-corp definitely has me interested in season 5. Loved the return of Spinosaurus! Hopefully it has some respectable role in season 5 and doesn't just get completely ignored. Yeah I felt they went too far with the robots... Didn't mind the Brooklyn and Kenji shipping but it could've developed a bit more slowly. I'll forgive it since they've already known each other for 6 months up to this point. Really wished they had stuck with Site B or a Site C instead of just a brand new island with no backstory or context. Don't fault them for trying something new, but I can agree with the overall assessment that it didn't really feel like a "Jurassic Park/World" story. Hopefully season 5 is better.
I personally wish this show had more raptor action or references to when raptors killed people and managed to go somewhere without actually showing violence. It's kinda disappointing that the raptors were so easily controlled and kinda weak and didn't do anything in terms of affecting the plot.
The dog-like BRADs were fine with me (I mean, we're talking about a world where bio-engineering has given us dinosaurs, so who's to say that robotics haven't gone wild as well) but the terminator-raptors were just way too much. I also want to point out again that the dinos are different colors in pretty much each movie, so the Rexes not following the schemes of the doe and buck from JP2 really shouldn't be an issue, but we all have our own little pet-peeves so if it bothers you, who am I to judge? Really glad they finally have a Cenozoic clone on screen. The new hybrids were cute, but then so are almost all babies. Finally, the spitters being on screen for not even five minutes at the end was a real cock-tease.
Man, I've been waiting for this video! really was curious on your take, especially the Boston dynamic themed robots. I over all enjoyed it. I think what I really liked the most is the characters are shifting dramatically with this one, addressing the state of the groups mental health. Yasmina has major PTSD or C-PTSD with the attacks and it seems like she's not the only one. Kenji commenting on how he feels like he's ignored/unloved in his family finding comfort and a connection with Brooklyn, Brooklyn not even caring about social media anymore, Ben is really trying to find who he is now life with out bumpy, Sammy just doubling down on how much she hates Manta Corp Darius being the one that hasn't changed much which I found really odd. Almost like this is his element with the dinosaurs, he's more interested in learning the behavior above anything else. So I do think the writing for the characters and their arch is on point. The dinosaur threat was much less this time around which I can see not sitting well with the audience. Shifting to the bigger threat really comes from people and companies over the Dinosurs themselves. There was a part where they were more afraid of Kash then the dinosaurs. And that's where I'm at the end of the day okay with this season, the real enemy has always gone back to control, who is controlling what and why. Going back to the core of JP is Dr. Malcom's chaos theory. Can they make these robots really control the Dinosaurs? What was in that thing Manta Corp is developing that Darius almost tagged the Spinosaurus? This season really opened up more of those themes. Including Kash's major anger issues he can't control himself and the power he very much desires. Even going as murdering anyone in his way when he feels like it. Like, that's huge! These themes rarely get explored, especially in a kids show. Tho the only thing I wanted... was the kids to take a shower when they had the chance in Dr. Turner living space. Maybe eat more? I think getting food, sleep shower would be at the top of the list of things to do when they got to her place. again overall liked it, looking forward to season 5!
I agree with you about the robots...somehow I feel like they robbed us of more dino time. I get that they're trying to do something different, and I guess it would be a stark contrast to InGen with their human dinosaur handlers, but...yeah it felt distracting at times. I don't call myself a Spino fanboy, but they should have made the Spino do more than basically be a cameo... Other than that, this season was fine. Not bad, not blowing my mind, but fine.
I kinda like the season, honestly. It offers an interesting reveal about Mantah Corp, and I was a bit iffy about the robots at first. But then again, I remember they're not InGen or Masrani Global, so I can get behind that. They make the robots to assist them in monitoring and handling the dinosaurs, a foil to InGen and Masrani who prefer to treat dinosaurs much more respectfully I enjoy how the dinosaurs are more portrayed in a rather sympathetic light here. It's a breath of fresh air seeing them not menacing the kids all the time. If anything I feel like they are more animals because they're not entirely invulnerable. It's especially rare to see T-Rex being nurturing and calm Considering how JW films begin to explore the idea of weaponizing dinosaurs, I think Mantah Corp's agenda is still aligned with the film. Only they choose different method to control them, namely not using laser gun with acoustic signal. I notice they also seem to be still limited when it comes to creating their own dinos though, since all of their dinos were robbed from Sorna and their hybrids were only made via Sammy's contribution I've been against romance since the beginning, but at least it doesn't take too much away from the story That being said, seems like season 5 will probably be much bigger than this
I very enjoyed the season 4, for all the assumed choice they made, it's was interesting, alway fun and cool, and even if certain kind of element can be questionable, for me, they use and put in place the things at least correctly. Like the beginning love story between Kenji and Brooklyn, completely assumed and put and developped all along the season, and even reveal why Kenji was cold to Darius at the end of season 3. The others characters are also good developpement too, like Ben with the baby brachiosaurus, Sammy who wish revenge again Kash, this later who is a very good and terrific vilain under his appearances, or Yasmina, who is reveal to have PDST trauma. So yes, there are elements who make things goofy like or out of the place but after and intense season 3, it's a little welcome to have some volontary looseness to better apprehension to this season. Plus, now the show is no more under the pression of the movie chronologie because they are not more on Nublar, si because he is now in a way separated from the main places and by the way story of the movies, the producers freedom are very more high. Finally, it's was reveal by recent articles some days before the release that all we see was approved by Trevorrow himself, who was alway in contact with the producers team during the production of JW Domion. And it's very important to be considered. But all is not complete stupid relaxation and thete are all along many dark and mature elements, mainly all thé subject of the experimentations on the animals, and the stress, terrible physical and mental pain they receive, all the animal cruelty right who are flout, and the theme animal fight and brain controle like they was simply machines and not life organism and only for the pleasiure of rich personnalities are very difficult to see it's so dark! Otherwise, we have in this Season 4 the ultimate confirmation that there were never extinction of any kind on Sorna since it's show that the Spinosaurus from the third movie and a mom and daughter T-Rex was taken from this island. And very recently because it's also explicitly show that all the Mantah Corps island complex is young, only some years it's seem, and we can assume that theses specimens was taken in the 2010's years, and that the two apex species has cohabitated the island from at least 10 years without more problems. But it's important to mention that only some dinosaurs was taken from Sorna, the most majority of the animal was cloned on place directly, like the Smilodon or Firecraker the baby brachiosaurus for exemple. I also like the inclusion of the cute babies Spinoceratops hybrids, who give to us a complete different hybrid from the three first ones, and for the first time we hope that they will not going to die because they are hybrids. For once, they are gentle hybrids and broke the general concept that all hybrids are aggressive and bloodfirsty creatures, like the carnivorous dinosaurs was Always depicted some decennies ago. Otherwise, the Mantah Corps island is not presented like to be close at Nublar and the episode 1 seem to show the group on the boat inconciouness lost in the sea cause by the compass who in final seem to be broken and useless. And, for you Klayton, for the T-Rexes, i remind you that in all along the franchise we see variants in colors of the creatures, like the Pteranodons who are differents.in the second and third film, the Velociraptors in all the movies and even in the two first seasons of Camp Cretaceous. So the mom and her daughter are simply females since birth rexes who are in a grey variants of the main base form we see in the second film. It's all ! It's not a reason to make a polemic! Oh, and they are all the two grey and not green, it is especially misleading from afar for Fat Eater because it has stripes. Finally, there maybe many elements who are not use at their complete potential and some seem to be abbandonned in the way but this Season 4 with his twist ending are more like a more bigger season who was divised into two parts, the first is season 4 and the second are the season 5 who begin directly after the last second of the last season 4 episode, so there alway time and place for the show to use the things introduce in this Season in the future.
I loved season 4 especially with Yasmina and her PTSD. It really dove into the character development of the kids and I felt the main goal was more about surviving the new technological environment. It was only towards the end of the season that they recognize as Kash and Mantah Corps as the villain now in their radar. I’d love to see more if Kenji and his relationship with his dad improving. Even if they managed to get off the island and move on in their lives, I would also love to see how these experiences changed who they are psychologically and how they’d react if they find themselves on the islands again.
Yeah, this season was just odd. I mean, the robot dogs could have worked healing the bigger and deadly dinos, but that's it; just add that a tone of money was put into them, and the public has no idea about the B.R.A.D robots. They also should never have added the 2nd robots because they are just too odd, have humans with guns that can get killed off by the many dinosaurs on the island. It's the same with the two T- Rex; they could have said this is just another pair they found on Sorna, making it not the family we saw in the Lost World. The relationship between two of the characters, yeah, that made no sense, and I felt it was very forced, making no sense why they were chosen either. It feels like they just picked out the names from a hat on who would become a couple. However, I did like seeing new Dinos, and some returning ones, but I have to give this season a 5/10
I think Colin Trevorrow will be very involved in the storytelling of Season 5. It will release one month before dominion and there a lot of questions that need to be answered. If they show the Spino in dominion, then they will need to explain how it off the Biodome Island etc.
I say that the BRAD Xs are almost like The Terminator, down to being virtually indestructible. Actually, hell, a Rex would MAYBE tear a T-800 apart like a McNugget if it had no weapons to fight back. I guess Kash somehow made a deal with Stark Industries and got a supply of vibranium lmao
@@khaens1116 Honestly, even the BRADs took me a bit to get past, just because it’s still a bit too futuristic when you compare it to the tech we have in our real life (Boston Dynamics etc.). Other tech in the franchise like the tablets, the “3D holograms”, hybrid animals, touch screens, they all still feel like stuff we have now to a certain degree, but the BRADS and ESPECIALLY the BRAD X feel the most outlandish besides cloning dinosaurs, which even that is less of a prop used during the story and more of the franchise’s plot device. (Think time travel from Back to the Future, or the tech from Ghostbusters.)
The only thing that ruined this season for me was the romance between Brooklyn and Kenji. I never thought they would be in a relationship because I’ve always thought Brooklyn was in love with Darius and I was hoping they would be in a relationship in this season. But unfortunately that never happened. Every time there was a bit of dialogue between Brooklyn and Kenji makes the whole scene very cringe. And I kept skipping scenes through the season and I didn’t notice Brooklyn kissed Kenji until a clip was uploaded onto UA-cam and that made me feel like I would never want to rewatch this season again. Overall the story wasn’t too bad, it was just the romance that let me down ☹️
I personally enjoyed the relationship between Kenji and Brooklyn. If you go back and rewatch, you can see this wasn't an idea that just popped in the writer's heads. It did feel a bit rushed and pulled away, but for all we know, the island may not have been operational until JW fell. However, the biggest criticism I have is the BRAD-X robots. I agree they were goofy and unnecessary.
People that think that Brooklyn and Kenji came out of nowhere weren't paying attention to it - either because they didn't want to or they don't care about things like that. But it *is* there.
I can honestly say that this felt less of a Jurassic season and more of like something out of some sci-fi show with dinosaurs in the side I mean I love the ideas that they did with the show but from time to time I was like where is the Jurassic feeling to it even though it’s gonna be new and away from what we are used to I’ll probably get used to it overall season 4 was good and can’t wait for what season 5 will have in store.
The first two seasons pleasantly surprised me because they were written in a way to be just as enjoyable to adult fans as kids. Season 4 seems to be very much focusing on keeping the kids entertained with more hybrid monsters and now killer robots. I just want to see Dinosaurs! I-Rex was fine as a one off gimmick in JW and was fine satire of our culture always getting bored and needing bigger and ''better''. But to repeat it over and over cheapens the franchise.
I think my views on season 4 was summarized by a recent review from Screen Rants. *"The Spinosaurus being included among Mantah Corp's menagerie was a pleasant surprise, but it was still a letdown how little the creature has to do in the course of the story. The fact that the Spinosaurus doesn't fight or kill anything and is even unable to catch six teenagers also robs the super predator of some of its menace."* We'll have to wait for Season 5 I guess. I get it's a kids show (Netflix has it enlisted) so I wasn't expecting anything grand or high quality. Oh and the romance was unwanted and terrible. That was... ugh.
@@2snipe1 Screen Rant has never really been a good source, they get stuff wrong a lot. Two years ago they made a list of "Monsters That Could Beat Godzilla In A Fight", and the information they posted for most of the monsters was so blatantly wrong, that I'm convinced that they hadn't even seen half the monster movies they were listing.
Doesn't fight anything... Are we sure this is not written by one of Mantah Corp's agents? Their whole gimmick is forcing dinos to fight for entertainment... I have a thought though. In season 5, it's likely that Daniel and Kash manage to inject the Spino with a brain chip and successfully control it to prevent the kids from escaping. And then it's Big Eatie to the rescue after being freed
I found Season 4 a mixed bag of good & bad (it definitely made me appreciate Season 2 a lot more). It's always nice when the Jurassic Franchise brings back old creatures & introduces new ones. I'm hoping that many of the questions & plot-holes raised in this season get answered in Season 5. While I didn't really like the implementation of the robots (& I also thought Kash's whining attitude was immature and kind of annoying), I did like the subtle reference to Michael Crichton's Westworld. I also liked that this season was essentially an adaptation of Jurassic Park: Scan Command/Dinosaur Battles. I will also admit, from the start of the season, I did not expect that plot twist with Kenji's Dad & Mantah Corp. However, I felt like the romance between Kenji & Brooklyn came right out of nowhere (If anything, I think Brooklyn & Darius would've made a better couple). I also recall one of the show creators mentioning that an element from this season would be implemented into Jurassic World: Dominion? If I had to take a guess (this was also my favorite element from Season 4), I think Dr. Turner's research on dinosaur language and communication might play an integral part in Dominion?
I’ve been hearing talk recently that the Spinosaurus we saw in this season wasn’t the same one from JP3. The reason they say is because this Spino was younger and smaller than the original. Personally, I don’t know how they can tell that this Spino is younger but it does look smaller than the original but I thought it was just that the 3D model wasn’t scaled correctly compared to the humans.
This season is a _mixed bag_ for me; yeah, my initial personal thoughts on it more or less align with yours, Klayton. I LOVE the character development and dynamics among the Campers, they're definitely the strongest point of this season such as Kenji and Brooklynn's romance and Yaz's PTSD. Dr, Mae Turner I do like (I like that she does genuinely care for the island's animals and comes to care for the Campers), and while I'm TRYING to get into Kash as like the 'new Dennis Nedry' so to speak, his constant temper tantrums and whole personality ARE a turn-off for me. I at least *tolerate* him, though. It's just REALLY *STRANGE* to me as well that there's this whole new island located within the same radius as Isla Nublar, that's completely off the grid. It just leaves more questions than answers about it. The *technology* in this season DOES feel a _little_ TOO 'Sci Fi.' Yes, the "Jurassic Park/World" franchise is known for introducing high technology concepts, but up until this point, the technology concepts seen in the films and the first three seasons of this series have _something_ of a basis/grounding in _real life._ OK, the first generation B.R.A.D.s I'm willing to accept, given what I know about the real-life Boston Dynamics robots, but the second generation B.R.A.D-Xs? To quote _Angry Video Game Nerd,_ *"WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?! I know, I know...they WEREN'T thinking!"* And I'd REALLY like some kind of explanation as to the technology behind the artificial biomes themselves (as long as it's believable). Personally, the dinosaurs and other prehistoric creatures in this season didn't come across to me as mere prop pieces, and most were indeed another strong point of this season. WELCOME BACK, SPINOSAURUS and ESPECIALLY *DILOPHOSAURUS* for me (we haven't seen that species since *1993* )! The _saber-toothed Smilodon_ I feel is a VERY welcome addition that SHOULD be talked about more; I've been wanting _prehistoric mammals_ to be featured in the franchise at some point, and in some way, shape, or form. And this Smilodon was utilized in a, dare I say it, BETTER way than its counterparts were in that HORRENDOUS Sy Fy B-flick, "Attack of the Sabretooth (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_of_the_Sabretooth)." I wasn't sure at first about the two new 'Spinoceratops' hybrids Angel ad Rebel, but they actually did manage to win me over. :) Same for Firecracker the baby Brachiosaurus. A Kentrosaurus named 'Pierce?' Yeah, I can dig that (no pun intended). For dinosaur characters like him, Angel, and Rebel, the writers did good in getting you (the audience) to sympathize with them. The method that Dr. Turner uses to communicate with them, to me, doesn't seem THAT far-fetched. And since that IS something of a nod to "Scan Command," it's interesting that the team behind the show would go to _that_ piece of wider franchise material for inspiration. Overall, I give "Camp Cretaceous” Season 4 a 6.5/10.
@@velociraptor4you3291 there was no build up for the past 3 seasons and majority of the time Brooklyn was always with Darius that relationship would have made more sense
Another thing that really bothered me was that the doctor lady (I forgot her name) was cleaned up very nicely so she clearly had access to a shower and a way to wash her clothes yet she failed to offer those services to the kids who very much needed it.
Eh tbh the biome thing just goes way too far out of universe.. How big are they? How were they built? It's rediculous to me.. (IMO) The Jurassic series always was at its best feeling somewhat grounded.
Uhhh from the way the Doctor described them as "Big Eatie and Little Eatie." I just took it to mean that the pup from TLW grew while this would also confirm that rex that died in JP3 is as some fans speculated the buck from TLW
This season jumped the shark for me, and I’m getting a little tired of all the chase scenes. The show is spinning its wheels and I’m ready for it to wrap up.
Robots were trash, underused of the Spinosaurus, barely Raptors, forced romance between the 2 kids, but the biggest wtf was the Spinosaurus sound change. What were they thinking? His Jp3 roar was incredible! If it ain’t broke don’t fix it!
Season 05 going to be an interesting one, now that Kenji's father has been revealed to be the head of Mantah Core, I have a feeling Kenji's loyalties will be tested in the upcoming season, a rift might form between him and the gang including Sammy, given the fact that Kash, a Mantah Core employee, blackmailed her family, and Brooklyn, considering that she is Kenji's girlfriend...things really don't look good for Kenji it seems and all of this will surely take a toll on his mental health....🤔
Thanks for your review, Klayton! Your review of this show did give me some points to consider. I do have some of my own theories and explanations on the logic behind the decisions made in Season 4. 1 As to why did Mantah Corp. use Sammy, a child mind you, to get dinosaur DNA, and not some other way, it's likely due to Dennis Nedry's actions in the first movie. An investigation likely concluded that he played a big part in the problems with Jurassic Park. Corporate sabotage is going to be a lot harder to pull off. This could be why Mantah Corp. tried to use Sammy's family in the first place. Better to use someone else who isn't officially associated with you to create plausible deniability. Also, Mantah Corp. wanted to use Sammy's family in general to collect dinosaur DNA however they refused, but Sammy didn't want her family to lose the ranch they had so she agreed to become a spy without her family's knowledge. Kash didn't want the opportunity to go to waste so I'm not surprised he okayed it since there was little to no perceived risk for him. After all, this is the same person who sent Darius on a suicide mission to chip the Spinosaurus. 2 As to why Kash didn't use Mae Turner's dinosaur communication device to get the dinosaurs to fight, he only just discovered Mae's research. He would need some time to examine it and come up with his own device. Also, Kash enjoys exercising power over others so he probably finds his painful methods with the drones more enjoyable. 3 As to why this season was mostly set on a completely different island that is not at all part of The Five Deaths, I think it's due to the scale of what Mantah Corp. wants to do. Trying to create all these different biomes and everything else they want to do is way too big to keep under wraps so closely under the eyes of Masrani and InGen. Having your own island that is not part of The Five Deaths, but close enough to them to acquire dinosaurs and dinosaur DNA for your own purposes is much easier to hide when it's your own island and you don't have to worry about anyone else. Also, the island the Campers land on is said to be off the maps so even better. 4 I know some fans would have preferred the Campers landing on Site B, but I'm going to ask you something. What would have made that island different enough from a story standpoint to justify going there? I know you would say something like, "Well, the Spinosaurus is (or rather was) there and there are some different breeds of Velociraptor there." My response to that just a couple of different dinosaur species or breeds isn't enough of a reason to justify going there. The island the Campers landed on in Season 4 was something substantially different and brought Mantah Corp. to the forefront. Sorna, at least at the point in time in which Camp Cretaceous is set in the Jurassic Park timeline, isn't as interesting as one would potentially think. It seems most of the dinosaurs on that island were moved to Nublar when Jurassic World was first established since why would you waste all those assets? You need a lot of dinosaurs for your dinosaur theme park, and it probably took a while for the cloning facilities to get run back since the cloned dinosaurs' image would need to be rehabilitated for the general public due to all the deaths from the first movie as well as the events of the T-rex San Diego rampage and those escaped Pteranodons from JPIII. Also, I highly doubt the Spinosaurus would have been let to run amok on Site B when Jurassic World was being established in the early to mid 2000s since considering how aggressive it is. It would have been killing off a good amount of dinosaurs and almost single handedly destroying the ecosystem. Dinosaurs aren't cheap to make so the Spinosaurus' reign of terror couldn't have lasted that long from an in-universe standpoint without the higher-ups stepping in and insuring that their assets would be protected meaning that the Spinosaurus likely would have been disposed of or contained and relocated. Thankfully, for us Spinosaurus fans, the creature still lives. If Camp Cretaceous was set in a much earlier point in the timeline, it would make more sense to go Site B, but Camp Cretaceous is set around the events of Jurassic World and not JPIII. Now that I brought up these factors about Site B to consider, imagine for a moment that Campers got stranded there instead of wherever they landed in Season 4. They would be on another island without any way off of it, no way to contact anyone or at least not have service available from where there at, and be back to dealing with being on an island with dinosaurs without any other humans on it, and probably sink further into despair since if someone else did ever come to get them, they would be looking on Site A rather than Site B and have no idea that their latest escape attempt resulted in them being trapped on a different island entirely. If they ever did find wreckage from the ship they would examine it and realize that the Mosasaur got to it and assume the worst. It feels too much like a repeat of aspects from the previous seasons. I think the writers on some level at least realized some of these points and went with the decisions they made in Season 4. Heck, Darius, for a very brief moment, is able to make contact with his brother showing that he's still alive. Had the Campers landed on Site B instead, it's highly likely that moment wouldn't have been possible. 5 On the subject of the robots, I know people were caught surprised by the robots, primarily the BRAD X's, but this isn't the first time that this franchise showed off technology more advanced than one would think. Jurassic World showed off hologram technology and futuristic computers which caught me off guard the first time I saw the movie. It seemed a bit much.
However, Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom was a big game changer and revealed that Maisie Lockwood is a fully fledged human clone. Cloning and recreating extinct animals are one thing, but a human being is something else entirely. Do you really think the biological side of science in the Jurassic Park Universe is the only side that would be more advanced than our own especially since cloning has been around for decades in-universe? I don't think progress like that would be so limited to one area. Furthermore, there are other reasons why such advanced drones and robots would be needed. Even with trained soldiers and superior firepower, Dinosaurs are still incredibly fast and/or powerful as well as crafty. Look at Jurassic World and the rampage that the Indominus Rex did and when it managed to get the raptor squad on its side temporarily. They slaughtered the soldiers with ease. The only dinosaur who the soldiers managed to kill was Charlie, and that was really only due to her going through something of an internal conflict due to her previous relationship with Owen meaning she only died due to a vulnerability that wouldn't exist with other dinosaurs. If you're going to attempt to control dinosaurs why would you go with such an inefficient method? The drones and robots solve this problem. With proper direction and equipment, they can coerce the dinosaurs into doing what Mantah Corp. wants through electricity and tranquilizing gas without throwing human body after body at it. The only thing they really lacked was durability which the BRAD X's cover. One of the BRAD X's managed to endure some damage from the Spinosaurus which is pretty impressive. They help avoid making other humans just be a waste of lives and resources and payment. Thanks again for your work, Klayton.
Yeah The one thing that bothers me about him was his new colors and how he wasn't looking one to one like in jp3 (although I know it's the same individual)
Two things. One: did nobody listen to the camp councilors that were trying to say there were kids left behind or did they just not say anything when they got back to the mainland? Two: These kids are still dealing with being chased by dinosaurs, stranded on an island, and now have an evil villain ready to kill the only other person he knows (at the time) is on the island, and have killer robots now chasing them too, do they really have time for crushes? Just doesn't seem like the thing they'd be thinking about. But I'm sure the relationship between Kenji and Brooklyn will be used when it comes to the Kenji's dad situation
The spino didn’t live in the desert because with subtitles when spino roars it is called asset 87 and Kash says a line that they would put asset 87 in the desert so the spinosaurus does not live in the desert
They made such a big deal about the dinos living in the right biome, with the Kentrosaurus not being able to stand the cold while Rebel and Angel were engineered for it. But then they put the Spinosaurus, an animal that lived in a jungle/swamp-like biome and probably had a semiacuatic life style, in the desert and it doesn't seem to affect it at all! That really bothered me.
Season 4 was just plain awful. The teens choices throughout were so mind-bogglingly insane that the show writers clearly must’ve run out of ideas. You mean to tell me these kids grew so suspicious of Dr. Turner that they immediately turned around and snuck back into the Tyrannosaur forest to explore the one place she told them not to go? Insane writing. Also the saber tooth & spinoceratops were random AF, and the killer robots all but ruined the season. I dread thinking about what the writers will come up with next. Human/dino hybrids are 1-2 seasons away, just wait.
I enjoyed Season 4 a lot overall. I thought there was lots of interesting new ideas set up. Hopefully they’ll explain more of the stuff left open in season 5. Maybe Kenji’s dad couldn’t get the sample because it look suspicious, or maybe Manticore had lots of undercover agents at Jurassic World.
While I still enjoyed season 4, honestly the hybrid thing is getting really stale. It played a much smaller role this time around. But hey we got to see the dilophosaurus, I love the trilling sound they make
That whole season felt to me like it was done by completely new writer staff, who have no prior knowledge of the franchise at all. Main issues for me were the sudden romance plot (I loved the fact, that it was all about friendships in Season 1-3), dinosaurs becoming side characters, robots and technology far too extreme. Also the show felt much dumber and the „feeling“ talks were unrewarded by the plot. How can a facility like that be run by just one guy? I am not looking forward to the future of the franchise.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this season was weak. I was really disappointed that it was more focused on the BRADs then dinosaurs. Like none of the dinosaurs were treated like an actual threat and more as an inconvenience. I think everyone was really let down in the Spinosaurous, it was very cool but it's scenes felt really brief and almost pointless. As for the kids I did like that they showed Yaz was experiencing PTSD. The whole thing with Brooklyn and Kenji however was just flat out weird in my opinion considering neither of them had much chemistry previously.
This sure was a weak season. The whole season could have been told in just about 3 episodes. There wasn't a whole lot going on other than generic dinosaur vs. human chases. The robots and drones were utterly stupid. For me, this season took the story completely in the wrong direction. The biodomes made no sense. The kids could just walk into the desert biodome after being shipwrecked? Apparently there is no roof to them either, but still they are able to control the weather in each biodome separately. Weird... Nope, this was not what I expected at all from season 4.
The twist about Kenji's dad being the head of Mantah Corp was interesting, and I wonder what development he will go through as season 5 goes along. Personally the Spinosaurus' return was the highlight for me. Everytime it was onscreen, it always presented itself to be a major threat Okay but the BRAD X design wasn't exactly necessary
I am of the persuasion that they had many good ideas, but executed their panoply in a suboptimal manner. I trust they can improve upon the same in the next season. I personally did not mind this season at all, and it is definitely something I should be tempted to re-watch, the Kenji-Brooklyn angle notwithstanding. I would personally have preferred for none to descend into the confusing cavern of romance, but oh well.
Season 4 didnt feel like a season. The relationship was rushed, robots took over the season, making it hard to watch the rest. The spino was pretty amazing and same with the dilos. I also like the references like delta and echo being controlled by drones. This feels like a big preview for season 5. I think its my leats favorite in all seasons but season 3 still holds the title of best in my opinion.
@@thedinocamman any actual evidence? They said they took their dinosaurs from Sorna not nublar and where is your proof that it is her? She was killed by the indominus
@@thedinocamman just because she looks like her doesn't mean it's delta, look at one of the t-rexes she looks like the bull from the lost world and yet she's female and has a daughter not a son and has no mate and also any word from the creators that it is delta? Give me evidence first before you say that delta and echo survived because they did not
I was under the impression that Big Eatie and Little Eatie were the female tyrannosaur from the m/f pair in The Lost World and Little Eatie is the young rex with the injured leg, all grown up years later. I assumed the male was still on Sorna.
The season started off interesting, but quickly spiraled into ridiculousness and repetetiveness.. the whole robot antagonist thing was tiresome, especially when suddenly there were these invulnerable mecha godzilla knockoffs all over.. Most of the dinosaurs present felt like they were just there to be eye candy to keep the audience somewhat interested. The plot itself was just bad.. the previous seasons all had pretty weak writing overall, but this one had the weakest by far. I dare say I'd call it an insult to the intelligence of the viewer, with just how silly it is. I mean, seriously, a researcher alone on an island with dinosaurs.. and she has NO way of contacting anyone or anything in case of an emergency? Come the fuck on.. And the main antagonist being some out of shape white dude with a zoomer haircut and serious anger issues got boring very quickly. Just a super shallow character overall. I know it's not meant to be a high end show, but they could at least try to make it compelling..
From what I'm hearing, I kinda feel like this season was made specifically as a place holder for whatever they have planned next. Like this could be a prequel to the kids winding up on Sorna next, where they can get a means of escaping. Could be wrong, though, as I haven't actually watched it yet.
Did anyone else notice how certain character models would switch back and forth between how the character looked for this season, and then to an older model from previous seasons? When Kenji & Darius have a conversation later in this season, Kenji has his beard one second, and then is suddenly clean-shaven the next. It really broke my immersion.
Unfortunately, Season 4 did not deliver what it could or should have. While it had its moments, the bad definitely outweighed the good. I feel the plot deviated way too far from the lore of the JP franchise. The robots were absolutely pointless, and a bit ridiculous. Kenji's redemption arc was completely lost to the Kenji/Brooklyn relationship storyline (which I think lessened the dynamic of Camp-Fam and made absolutely no sense), and MantaCorp's formal introduction into the story was unstructured, inconsistent, and very disappointing. A lot was sacrificed for the sake of being "cool", in my opinion. But it failed miserably. Of course, JP has exaggerated scientific accuracies in the past, but to an extent, the franchise has still been somewhat believable... until now. Especially the idea of using neurotechnology to control the mind and temperament of a dinosaur... immediately no. Past seasons left the writers with so much to work with, and I feel Season 4 was a wasted opportunity. My rating is a hard 3.5/10. I'm going to give the season credit for the re-introduction of fan-favorite dinosaurs like Diloposaurus and Spinosaurus. Kenji's dad being the president of MantaCorp was a great cliff-hanger. And of course, Darius made contact with his brother who commits to finding him.
I wish instead of being a new-island, they had revealed it was a massive modified ship of some sort... That would have been cool, and would have played into the theme of technology in this season really well, without it feeling forced, or two high tech.... and it could have made for a good mid-season plot twist, especially if they were somehow able to get there coordinates out and ask for help, only to realize those coordinates are now invalid.
I've been waiting for this cause I knew Klayton was gonna have some thoughts and I really wanted to know what he thought of it. I liked most of it but I didn't like Kash or the overuse of robots.
Mantah corp’s boss is Kenji’s dad. Now THAT, was one big twist. You also forgot that Darius’s brother Brandon got a call from Darius, and Brandon gets to know that Darius is alive. I wonder if Brandon finds Darius and his friends in season 5.😃😃
Yeah the B.R.A.D. robots really jumped the shark. The drones were fine, but the BRADs and how poor a Villian that Kash was really damaged my thoughts on season 4. I'm looking forward to seeing Kenji face off with his Dad next season.
Kash is just another Nedry, just the middleman for the real boss
It is made for kids so they can get away with a lot more cliques.
Is this spinosaurus the same from jp3??
B. R. A. D x kinda looks like mecha sharkjirra from hungry shark world
I said the same thing. Obvious bad guy is obvious and wouldn't you know it he has an ego problem clouding his judgement. Well I never lol
I enjoyed season 4 for what it was glad to see the spinosaurus again.The cliffhanger with kenji's dad being the president of mantah Corp got me intrigued for the 5th season.
i agree i realy want to see season 5 now well done on there half
I was like “that’s it?! NOOOOO!!!!” when the season ends on cliffhanger. LOL!!
How do you feel about the character kash
@@animezilla4486 I feel like kash as a character has potential to be an antagonist but he feels like more of a goofy nerdy character mixed up with the classic trope of a mustache twirling villain yes what he did with the baby dinosaur was disturbing. Other than that kash intrigues me.
@@Jose_Lopez08 I think Kash could be the main villain for season 5 I do agree that he has potential but my main problem with his character is that he froze temper tantrums like a child. What he did to that baby dinosaur which I think is a baby Brachiosaurus I cannot wait for the dinosaurs to have him for lunch
Seasons 1-3 felt fairly self contained and had their own Arcs (S1 Indominus, S2 Mitch and Tiff, S3 Scorpius Rex and escape) but Season 4 feels like Season 4 Part 1. It ended on a huge cliffhanger and didn't wrap up any storylines.
This is the problem with the ridiculously short seasons of the 2010s and 2020s. You really don't have the screen time to make truly in depth story arcs like you used to when seasons were 20 to 30 episodes long. Let's face it, these short seasons don't work well with half hour episodes either. Things like Game of Thrones have hour long episodes... so for the screen time to be on par, a half hour show should have double the amount of episodes....
Some of the people working on this show are from back in those days. I wonder if they just got carried away with the writing, and forgot that they can't do real seasons anymore. As an afterthought.... why do TV shows still have mid-season breaks? (I know Camp Cretaceous isn't doing it, because it's Netflix, but regular TV still does it) Those only existed because of long seasons.
I can’t believe nobody is talking about Yaz
I thought she was by far the best character this season with her breakdown at the end of ep 4 being my favorite moment of the season
I loved how they delved into her PTSD and how helping the dinosaurs wasn’t always the best decision
I still ship YAZJI
They didn't really do anything at all with the idea of not always putting the dinos before the group. They bring it up, then do absolutely nothing with it. Every single time. Honestly, other then Yaz having some hesitancy in one episode, and a couple of expository speeches, they didn't really do anything with the PTSD either. It was just window dressing. By the end of season 4 (which appears to be a very short period of time considering their new friend is still in bandages) she seems to be completely over it.
@@vadimbanner2024 I kind of wanted that too... It always felt like they were going to go Yaz and Kenji, then Darius and Brook. This season, it literally felt like it was going to be Yaz and Sammy though lol
@@Mephilis78 I think the YAZ and Sammy Arc is over
I agree with you on most of these things. Another thing I felt the lack of was a main non-human antagonist.
Season 1 had the Indominus rex and, most importantly, Toro as the main threats.
Season 2 had the Baryonyx trio and the T. rex causing lots of trouble.
Season 3 had the Scorpios rex(es).
Season 4 has lots and lots of dangerous animals making a few appearances, but that's just it.
The Smilodon appeared a couple of times before being taken down; the Spinosaurus had a few scenes, but it definitely wasn't the main threat;
the two T. rex felt more like victims than antagonists; the Velociraptors didn't do enough; the Pteranodons go away as quickly as they came;
and finally, the Dilophosaurus only showed up on the last episode for a few minutes. There are so many dangers in this season (and very few herbivores, by the way),
but eventually the main non-human antagonists were the robots. Sigh.
True. I think the yellow raptors had the most potential to be the main dinosaur antagonists, since they constantly hang around Kashs base, and they could easily chase the campers through the hallways and such. It would also be pretty easy to replace a few of the robot chase scenes with Raptor chase scenes instead.
And even the robots became a non-issue after a short time.
Why would the T-Rexes be antagonists? The Spino would be more an antagonist if anything.
@@Xenosaurian in fact I said they weren't antagonists.
@@Venator94 I know, I'm just wondering why you mentioned the idea of them being antagonists at all. Why would the T-Rex be an antagonist?
I honestly disliked season 4, mainly because the damn robots that stole majority of the screentime
Yeah I completely agree. Like at some points I thought I was watching a terminator series rather than a Jurassic Park series
I agree, the robots were really silly and very out of place. It was just very unfitting for JP.
It also didn’t “flow” very well
@@rebelliousreptile7336 Just saying at this point with robot tech in the universe so ahead why don’t you need dinosaurs anymore just use robots. They’ve literally in a universe about dinos made dinos irrelevant, you an just have a bunch of robots do everything any Dino ever could.
Obviously spoilers:
The robots kinda ruined it for me. I could have lived with one robo dog we saw on the official season 4 picture a few weeks ago...but a whole army of robo dogs? And then they one up it and give us a whole army of robo dinosaurs that look like they're straight out of star trek? Idk.
The dinosaurs were cool, but they didn't feel as threatening as they should. Jurassic Park showed us how dangerous the Raptors are....in CC you can stop them with a few drones.
It's not a bad season, but probably my least favourite.
They definitely took a priority on the human plot lines and flushing ingen’s competition MantahCorp. I felt it was needed despite the dinosaurs being on the back burner, especially if these characters are to come back in future television products. The JP lore has been mostly writing so to see them put in practice is nice, but I agree it felt more like a soap opera with dinosaurs.
Yeah. The dinosaurs turned into a joke with the robots. The raptors were such a joke I half thought the tech dude was going to have a picnic right next to the raptors while laughing at them.
You mean the roboraptors that would never be seen in the actual movies and laughed out of the theatre?yeah this season has gone off the rails
The relationship ruined it way more than the robots for me
@@sjc5411 The characters have continually gotten too comfortable with the dinosaurs. They basically sit behind a tree 20ft from Two Tyrannosaurs casually talking and pecking away at a tablet.
Same thing I hate about Jurassic World. Making jokes and pets out of dinos like raptors.
Personally, despite the fact that this was the least "Jurassic Park" season of Camp Cretaceous, I enjoyed it quite a lot. The season dealt with some really dark and heavy themes such as the dinosaurs made to fight each other, the mind control and Jasmina's PTSD. Witch brings me to my next point, I think that every main character had significant amount of growth and development this season. In another note, the action set pieces were really well done in my opinion, plus the dinosaurs behaved like actual animals, which I really liked. They even incorporated actual science with the head-biting behavior in T. rex. The technology apart from the BRAD X, was not that far fetched either. Drones and "robot dogs" are something that exists, and is used in the real world while holograms is something that exists within the Jurassic World franchise. The only bit I felt was out of place and kind of ridiculous were the dino-bots. Also I wish the used more dinosaur chasing instead of robots but it's ok I guess. Anyway, thank you for another great video.
Exactly my thoughts. The brads were awesome in my opinion. They make sense because a company in secret wouldn't want a bunch of workers risking there lives and being able to reveal there operation, plus the brads are disposable if a rex destroys one they just come back later and get its remains and build a new one. If it eats a worker they have all sorts of stuff to go through kinda like the first Jurassic park movie started with the raptor killing the worker. It just feels so in line with modern Jurassic park. But the 2 legged robots just look and feel terrible and wish they wernt in the show.
Man why would you need dinos if you can make an army of robot dogs just saying like. They robots are too powerful literally a bunch of Brad x’s can do anything i cease to understand the need for any dinos in this show anymore and that is sad.
@@pangrowlin3599 I guess building a giant robot proves to difficult. Though the whole point of the Indoraptor was downsizing I-rex so that it would be more effective. Who knows really.
Yes. "Boston Dynamics" and "Ghost Robotics".
The BRADs reminded me of "A-X-L", especially when BRAD-X entered a quadrupedal state.
The funniest moments to me were:
1. "Unable to quantify--whatever."
2. "You are so not alone dude."
3. The BRAD-X just staring at Darius when he asks if he's going to help.
4. Kenji making a bunch of noise in the desert. He used to be a spoiled rich kid, but now he's the funniest character!
@@richardduncan2954 Indeed! Though under a certain light, sometimes BRAD-X was a little intimidating and terminator-esque. Especially when the eyes were red. A humanoid shark lizard bot. How long do you think before robots can replace the military so nobody has to risk their lives?
My 10 year old daughter was like "Watch it be the boys dad! He's the only parent we have gotten extensive background on." I'm like "No way! That's silly! Why would his dad not be trying to find him? They knew the girl was still alive as she gave the DNA samples to the drones! Why not just use a drone to look for his kid?" Then she was proven right and I'm just left with more questions then anything.
Your daughter is smart. I didn’t see the ending coming.
Is this spinosaurus the same from jp3??
@@MsBaijayanti its suggested but atm theres no confirmation. Seeing that it doesnt have the same roar I am guessing no.
@@OpenPhoenix that sucks but im still thinkinh it is the same lol
maybe roar changed due to age?
@@MsBaijayanti Scott creamer confirms it to be the same
Season 4 had a couple of pretty glaring plotholes.
1) How did they survive the Mosasaurus destroying the boat? They looked like they were still pretty far from the island when it breached and landed on the boat. Then smash cut to them waking up on the beach.
2) How in the heck does Kenji not know his father is the head of Mantah Corp? They've talked about Mantah Corp for three seasons now.
Overall it was ok, but they need to reign in the sci-fi robots and stuff. The dinosaurs got upstaged waaaaaaaay too much.
1. Plot armor. XD
2. Daniel is so distant that Kenji had no idea what he was ever up to. I bet that Kenji saw the old man like a few times per year, maybe less.
It was the audacity of the editors to make mosasaurus, the size of a t-rex in that scene. Megaladon and Mosa has almost equal lengths and I'm pretty sure that Meg's whole upper fin can be lengthened to atleast 80% of the boat's length.
I think the reason why kenji doesn't know it because I'm pretty sure he said in season 1 and 3 that he and his father didn't have much of a connection and that his dad never had time for him
1. Maybe the boat was so broken up that the kids could be found.
2. After the events of Jurassic world the dad bought out a competitor to get revenge on Dino’s for killing Kenji
182728281) how did a child hack military grade ai
@@blazethecursed And that may be why he grew cold-hearted towards the dinos and treated them as nothing more than assets rather than living beings. This was the case with Claire.
Another problem with the Spino in season 4 was that it just kept coming back as a problem every time they went to the desert and had no real effect on the story
Is this spinosaurus the same from jp3??
@@MsBaijayanti They said they got the Rexs from Sorna... so it makes sense they'd have gotten the Spino from Sorna too.
@@TheLoreSeeker oh
Watch the spino end up in Dominion and square off with Rexy. The ultimate rematch.
@@BugsMcCoy I thought it was confirmed that a Giga was gonna be the big monster baddie in Dominion. It'd be cool if Spino made an appearance too tho.
I give this season a 5/10 or 6/10
It's ok
I feel like the odd numbers like season 1 and 3 are better but the even numbers are the less good ones like 2 and 4
But I'm still excited for a season 5
Yeah
Very true
I agree. The AI robots kind of ruined the Jurassic theme for me
I actually really liked Season 4. It was nice to see the Dilophosaurus again after all these years! This season tackled some serious issues like Animal abuse and PTSD. It was hard for me to watch Big Eatie being forced away from her daughter to fight. It was also cool to see a Saber Tooth Tiger tho they could've also had some Mammoths in the winter biome.
I concur! I'd like to see a dodo bird.
The robots reminded me of "A-X-L", especially when BRAD-X entered a quadrupedal state.
The funniest moments to me were:
1. "Unable to quantify--whatever."
2. "You are so not alone dude."
3. The BRAD-X just staring at Darius when he asks if he's going to help.
4. Kenji making a bunch of noise in the desert. He used to be a spoiled rich kid, but now he's the funniest character!
I also loved when the Pteranodon went splat!
My unsubstantiated guess is that the original Camp Cretaceous seasons were far more of a success than they predicted and was renewed for longer than the original plot roadmap was written for. That's why I think season 4 fills a bit weird with all the elements you mentioned because the writers just dumped whatever they could think up in order to pad it out until Dominion was closer. Contrast to JW Evolution 2's story which took the opposite approach and ended up feeling barebones.
Still overall enjoyable. I think the group dynamic is as strong as ever and definitely what kept season 4 afloat.
Beaver did say that JWE2's campaign was "fairly . . underwhelming?"
I would give it a 6.5 at best.
Things I liked about it: Nice to see the characters were dealing with PTSD, loved seeing the Spino again, I liked the cliffhanger at the end, and I my favorite scene was when the Spino killed the smilodon as well.
Things I disliked: Too many robots, I thought the Dino-communication tablet was overused, and I didn’t really like the addition of romance although I saw it coming BUT I liked how the romance was cringy given that is how it is at that age.
Overall as a solo non-Jurassic story it would be great and if they limited the robot screen time then it would be higher score
This season definitely made a lot of questionable choice's such as the robot's and such, a part of me feels like this season sacrificed a lot of good elements about the show to be "cooler" and a lot of things in the season felt rushed and forced such as one certain relationship that I won't get into don't get me wrong this season still has a lot of good stuff about it but overall I'm going to have to say this is my least favorite season of the show hopefully season 5 will be better 6/10 but I'd love to hear everyone else's opinion.
Adding robots is not cooler imo lol
@@MrSkullMerchant same. I thought it would make the season a lot Cooler at first when I saw the trailer but the execution was just.....
@@maximoomega3691 a few robots here and there aint bad but they went over the top man. Plus im pissed the poor compy was killed by one 😑
As somebody who is the age of those characters I can 100% confirm that is how it would have played out Kenji heck is up with the rich people and knows how to put the moves on but he’s never had to connect with somebody emotionally so his awkwardness and daydreaming is incredibly accurate obviously the relationship progressed a lot faster than it would have in school but that’s because there’s spending 100% of their time together
@@MrSkullMerchant yeah
I was just glad the Spinosaurus and Dilophosaurus made their return after year's of being absent, even though they were underutilized.
I thought the whole Kenji and Brooklyn thing was really forced, I personally prefer if none of the ships happen because one of the main themes about this show is friendship, kinda like The Land Before Time.
Camp Cretaceous Season 4 as a whole was just ok, I hope Season 5 is better.
I don't mind the romance tbh, because they did a great job holding off on it as long as they did.
If any one of the campers had romantic chemistry with each other, I thought it would be Darius and Brooklyn not Kenji and Brooklyn.
@T-Rexkid 117 Yeah your theory could be correct in Season 5. I hope your right. I personally thought Kenji had more chemistry with Yazmina than Brooklyn.
@T-Rexkid 117 just for interest i've rewatched all cc from season 1 to 3 and counted the interactions between characters that had development and the tally is: kenji with everybody except darius is around 2, kenji with darius around 5, darius with brook around 6 and the leaders sammy and yaz/ben and dariys around 10, all other interactios where surface level, and for another all the interactions of brook and kenji happened between ep 6-10 of s3, so smth is def up
@Derek Lopez While I get not liking relationship sub-plots, you say that Kenji/Brooklynn "was really forced" as if you don't remember how much closer they got in S3Ep6-10, relating to/helping each other work through their personal issues. Besides that, 1 of the other ships has been happening since WAY before S4 (I.e. S1Ep3).
My take on the mother rex is that she's a new, previously unseen individual. She looked more like a kind of blue/gray than green to me, and then just the fact that she's confirmed as female on top of that, with the other being her daughter rather than her mate. It's likely that they cloned more rexes beyond the four adults seen in the first three films, and we have no way of knowing how many wild-born rexes there are in addition to the baby in The Lost World. 20 years have passed since JPIII, which is definitely enough time for a T. rex to reach adulthood.
Like you, I too wondered if perhaps they had some different ideas which were reworked. Perhaps on orders from above, because Trevorrow and his crew plan on tackling Sorna in Dominion, and they didn't want this season to spoil or contradict anything? One possible explanation could be that the idea is for Sorna to be empty by the time of Fallen Kingdom and later Dominion, so this was a way of having dinosaurs *from* Sorna without having the story take place on the island itself.
I think this was a mistake, because sometimes they refers to the green one as She, and other times as He.
And besides that, this may be not canon but it may help. On Lost World Trespaser, it is said that InGen cloned a total of 8 rexes.
John Hammond mentioned a total of 8 Kings being cloned on Isla Sorna, in Trespasser, even if the canonical status of it is ambiguous at best, it kind of makes sense if you think about though, this new pair of rexes might be a subtle reference to Trespasser, in my opinion
I think also the 8 Rexs was mentioned in the Ingen list? But I do agree that the mother rex was grey/blue. I also think it could be a rex we have never seen before, maybe Big Eatie is the lost world baby rex's baby?
I have a feeling that the new Rexes are completely new creatures that we haven’t seen.
Is this spinosaurus the same from jp3??
My own review:
The Cons:
1. Or should I say the KONS because honestly, Kenji is my least favorite camper on this season. Compared to the last two previous seasons, his development to becoming a much more independent but caring personality is kinda thrown off. He's much more dependant on Brooklynn and I kinda hated his mood swings because it didn't really feel like Kenji. I wished that he had gotten a leader role on this season, especially when Darius is missing instead of depending on Brooklynn for everything, because that will set up his character much better for this season.
2. And speaking of Kenji, can I just say I'm not a big fan of his rather sudden romantic relationship with Brooklynn. While I don't mind the age gap (it's honestly not that big), what I really find iffy is that they have practically NO buildup towards becoming a romantic relationship for the last three seasons. I enjoyed their relationship when they are a friend. But as a whole, Brooklynn had way more chemistry with Darius, especially in the last three seasons. Brooklynn and Kenji is basically the Gwuncan (Total Drama ship of Duncan and Gwen) of Camp Cretaceous. I don't intensely hated it per se, but it just feels off.
3. Yet again Jurassic World series kinda falls into the "comically evil antagonist" trope with Kash introduced. Although I guess it's kinda expected, but as a villain, Kash kinda fails. Most of the time, Kash didn't really pose a lot of danger outside of controlling deadly BRADs, and is overly comical and frankly, kinda stupid. I'm not a big fan of comical new villains of Jurassic World outside of Dr. Wu, though I hope the addition of Kenji's Dad can finally put an end of overly comically evil villain trope of Jurassic World.
4. For the most part I feel like Sammy is pretty sidelined, which is a shame, and considering now the campers have a big bad in form of Mantah Corp, Sammy SHOULD HAVE played a WAY bigger part. Considering the fact that Kash is the one who blackmails Sammy's family, I'm surprised at the fact they basically have ZERO interactions throughout the show. Sammy has expressed her rage at her blackmailer, but that rage is practically forgotten the subsequent episodes. I think she should've gotten kidnapped instead of or alongside Darius, so we can explore the Mantah Corp problems on her side because it's not even fully explained what they did to her or her family
The Pros:
1. One thing that Camp Cretaceous NEVER fails is the way they portray the dinosaurs. It's always perfection. You can definitely tell that the T. rexes aren't cold blooded monsters they always get portrayed on the media. I loved how Pierce the Kentrosaurus had a distressed behavior of a herbivore and is not afraid of defending itself when panic. I can't really express it in a detail, but everything about the dinosaur behavior and movements are just awesome for the most part, and they really put an emphasis on they're living and breathing creatures instead of movie monsters.
2. I'm originally kinda iffy on the Sci-fi parts of the show, but after the watch, they honestly aren't as out of place as I thought they would. They're just as realistic as cloning dinosaurs from extinction. And honestly? I really loved the man made setting of it. Now we can have so many different kinds of locations like desert, snow, or swamp instead of fully tropical jungle area of Isla Nublar. And the BRADs, despite the stupid acronym, pose a pretty great threat for the most part.
3. Many of the scenes are SUPER intense. I legitimately felt nervous for the campers when they are in face of a danger, like the Mosasaurus, the sandstorm, the BRAD attacks, or other dinosaur attacks, it's just as on par as the previous seasons. And not to mention, some of the scenes are just straight up a huge tearjerker, despite often involving the dinosaurs itself. You can definitely tell the baby Brachiosaurus is in so much pain when it is forced to stop, you can tell the T-rex is in so much pain after their violent battle, and the last scene with Bumpy is just heartbreaking.
4. I loved the different take of the usual dino battles of this season. Instead of the usual "hero vs villain" battle, we have the forced to battle kind in this season. You can definitely tell neither the T. rex nor the Kentrosaurus wants to battle, but are forced into one small arena because of the drones. I loved instead of making us rooting for one of them, it makes us rooting for them to STOP. The T-rex is established as the mother of an injured daughter and the Kentrosaurus is established as the dinosaur that Dr. Mae has raised for long and has a name. This just makes seeing them hurting each other extremely painful to watch, just like real life animal battle arenas.
5. Ben jumped from the least favorite camper to my favorite camper of this season. He's no longer being terribly obnoxiously brave like in last season or obnoxiously paranoid like in first season. He had a great balance of bravery from the development he gets from the last two seasons and the much more toned down fear he had in the first season. And the way he interacts with the baby Brachiosaurus is just adorable, and i loved how he finally didn't have the overattachment towards the dinosaur he cares like in previous season.
6. I loved how they portray Yaz's trauma here. It just shows how desperate she is to return home and is just enough of all dinosaur encounters. Her breakdown when she heard intense roar of the dinosaurs and her desperation when they got left out once again is really emotional. And of course, her relationship with Sammy is always a great treat and I lowkey wished we got more of them instead of Brooklyn and Kenji
7. The Dilophosaurus and Spinosaurus finally makes their grand return after a VERY long time of absence in big screens, and I couldn't be happier. While I feel like it's a shame that the Spinosaurus isn't the main dino antagonist like i hoped for, it's still great to see them return. I also loved the Smilodon and the Spinosaurus and Sinoceratops hybrids as well, despite my sceptism.
Nice. I feel like people tend to forget that they're no longer on Nublar and things are no longer overseen by InGen ot Masrani, which are the main companies in the films and treat the dinosaurs differently. But the films start to address the idea of weaponizing dinosaurs and Mantah Corp just has different means to do so. I think, the robots are used to assist them in monitoring and handling them first
You know, I've said it before, but I think Mantah Corp kinda reminds me to some fans with their dino vs dino shindig
I definitely have mixed feelings towards this season. I guess I'll list the things I liked and didn't like.
*Positives*
• The dinosaur action throughout the season was super fun!
• I enjoyed the character development between the characters (especially Yaz). As a side note, the romance stuff didn't bug me like it did for other fans.
• It was great seeing the Spinosaurus and Dilophosaurus make their long awaited comeback! Really brought out a lot of Nostalgia!
• Finally the Ceratosaurus gets an intense and exciting scene to itself! We're long past the sniffing poop days thankfully!
• It was cool seeing the Smilodon be introduced into the film canon! This opens up a lot more possibilities for the franchise.
• THE CLIFFHANGER!!
*Negatives*
• I really wasn't big on the robots. I feel like they took up way too much screentime that should have gone to the dinos. At first I was okay with the normal Brad's, but the Brad X's were a bit too much for me.
• Kash was kind of a one note villain. To be fair, I don't normally watch the Jurassic franchise specifically for the human villains (unless we're talking about Henry Wu or Dodgson). It was cool they got Haley Joel Osment to voice him though!
• I wish the Spinosaurus, Dilophosaurus, Smilodon, and Ceratosaurus had more screen time. This ties into the robot thing. This is more of a nitpick though.
• The cliffhanger from Season three ended up being kinda pointless. There wasn't really any sort of payoff.
Overall even though I have more positive things to say over the negatives, I still think this season was a bit more of a mixed bag for me. It was fun and enjoyable, but I think it could have been better. But it also could have been worse. I'm still excited for season 5, and I'm curious as to how this is all gonna play out! I just hope the robots don't overshadow the dinos next time. I'll give it a 6/10! Anyway sorry for the long comment, but I wanted to be as detailed as possible!!
Well said.
I think one thing they might not have anticipated with the Brad-x design, is that... as bipeds, they feel less unique.
Quadrepedal robots are something we have now, and a four-legged enemy is something rarely seen in jurassic... I know it sounds weird.
I dont know... the Brads were just way cooler than the Brad-X's, and they never really justified the brad-x's switch creation, or reason for existing.
@@urktheturtle2988 they kinda did, but it was shallow, Kash was tired of the v1s getting destroyed, so he made them indescribable. Still not satisfying, but is was it is
Man, this is exactly how I felt, but way better written than my comment, nice job!
Although I did find it kinda hilarious that Cash kinda looked and acted like a stereotypical Neckbeard Nerd/Incel type individual especially when you consider the fact that he looks extremely similar to Hal from the movie Mega Mind who is also like that. I never actually thought I’d see a Neckbeard villain in a Jurassic Park show but I guess I was proven wrong.
There was good and bad in Season 4.
Good:
1) Daniel Kon, Kenji's Dad being the leader of Manta Corp. It gives us an antagonist to be connected to and a way for the children to get off this new island. It also potentially gives them the means to go back to Nublar to get Bumpy. Perhaps changes how things go.
2) Darius' brother coming to the rescue potentially as an avenue to get Roxie and Dave back in the story. I understand why they were written off the show for the story they want to tell, but I am hopeful for their return. Hopefully, using Darius' brother the families of other characters may be seen. Like Sammy's family.
3) The various biomes to see dinosaurs in other elements. It was done a little too sci fi but the idea was good.
4) More dinosaurs being shown and returned. Always a good thing, never will be a bad thing.
Bad:
1) Kenji x Brooklyn. Outside of flirting in the first episode which was clearly not meant as interest, it feels like this was completely forced in order to be a point of conflict in the next season. I also feels this lessens the anger that Kenji had with Darius at the end of Season 3. The "I was mad because I love her." is not compelling to me, and is to me a bad lesson to have in a children's show. Kenji being mad because he felt Darius didn't value the friends enough would have been more compelling.
2) BRADs and BRADXs, I can get behind a robot dog patrolling areas. I can get behind it having a robot voice. What I can't get behind it is somehow being able to think or at least appearing to think. Especially the BRADXs. And I don't like the BRADX design. The show would have been better if the BRAD upgrade made some sense. The BRADX upgrade feels like a way to sell more toys rather than meaningful to the story. So, BRADs are not a bad concept, but was implemented poorly.
3) That they somehow introduce multiple ways to control Dinosaurs to make them fight or do what you want. It is just confusing to me. You have Mae's research, the control chip, the drones, and the food material. Too many things to do the same thing all introduced close to one another. Pick something and go with it.
4) Minor, but pissed me off. Don't make me sad for Bumpy! I wanted to believe Bumpy was living a happy life on Nublar with the other dinos. I don't need to know that Bumpy is calling out for Ben before going to sleep alone at the abandoned camp. I swear if Season 5 doesn't have Bumpy taken off Nublar to live with Ben, I am going to scream.
Overall, it isn't bad. It is average and the weakest season imo. It sets up a lot with little payoff to reward watching it.
About the first two points: I completely agree with you (especially with the design of the BRADXs.... they looked so out of place)
I have something to say about your third point: The control chip was based on and used Mea's research and the food was just to test what happens if the dinosaurs reach certain anger levels. Oh and the drones were used before Kash knew about the research and they were mostly used to move the dinosaurs or contain them in one place.
And to your fourth point: Yeah I hate them for doing that :(
@@Cha0S_Hybr1D To clarify, I don't mean it is confusing because it doesn't have an explanation, it is just confusing to have all those things in the series so quickly to one another. It makes the story a bit of a mess. There was ways that they could have potentially shore that up and didn't introduce so many ways of attempting to control the dinos so quickly.
@@darththeo Yeah you're right it all came too quick, (I think a few thngs even came in the same episode...). If they would have stretched it a little bit mor it would have benn fine.
How did darius not know something was going’s on when a sabertooth jumped at them. He never questioned it
I forgot about that, when the Smilodon left, they were all like "Yay, we beat a tiger!" but they didn't question how and why there was a living Smilodon in the middle of nowhere. Also I'm kinda disappointed at Darius cuz he's supposed to be a nerd with lots of dinosaur and prehistoric creature knowledge, yet he called the Smilodon a "saber-toothed tiger" and not the more correct term "saber-toothed cat".
@@cintronproductions9430 perhaps his knowledge is only limited to dinosaurs, not what comes after mesozoic era. His knowledge is previously more of book-based than hands-on though
This series basically took Yasmin, Kenji, Brooklyn and a little bit of Darius in play. Ben and The other girl (I forgot the name) just had a countable number of scenes. S4 was kind of disappointing to me
This series basically took Yasmin, Kenji, Brooklyn and a little bit of Darius in play. Ben and The other girl (I forgot the name) just had a countable number of scenes. S4 was kind of disappointing to me
Ikr! That was always so bothersome to me. How would anyone not question a saber tooth tiger still being alive or Where it came from.
Scan Command was a big part of my childhood, which is probably why I really appreciated these story elements in Season 4, even if they might not feel completely coherent within the Jurassic Park universe.
I liked how they confirmed my theory that the reason the isla nublar is last known home of the dinosaurs is cuz the dinos were no longer on sorna
In the Jurassic Park novel the government bombarded the entire original island after grant escaped
Honestly, Angel and Rebel are my favorite dinosaurs in the franchise now...
Personally speaking, i thought this season was a bit meh it was nice seeing the Spino, i really liked Dr May and i would die for Rebel and Angel that being said Kenji and Brooke being a thing felt really out of nowhere. The spino while it was great to see him he did kinda nothing and I would have liked to see more Ice Age animals Overall id give it a solid 6/10
I would say the same thing, but maybe it’s because of how good season 3 is, season 4 feels like it doesn’t like perfectly live up to its full potential. I mean i enjoyed the season but it’s more on the sympathetic side. It just has some enjoyable moments.
My thoughts are complicated, but i overall enjoyed it
The flashy high tech stuff can be off-putting, but there's some really great themes of animal abuse for profit being explored there that i wish the movies dealt with as well
The tyrannosaurs being forced to fight each other, and Firecracker being controlled were legit hard to watch for me (in a good way)
Plus i respect them addressing PTSD like they did
The whole forcing dinosaur to fight reminds me to some of the fans...
Man I’m sad the robots in the universe are so high tech that it’s not really a dinosaur focused show anymore when the robots are more influential to the plot than the dinos are like. And the obsession with hybrids especially a harmless one it’s dumb when you think below the surface.
@@pangrowlin3599 um... the dinos are still there, they're just the subject of cruelty this time around. The whole season is basically all about rescuing and freeing them from Mantah Corp if you think further
@@aryshandono3249 I’m not talking about the stories but the mechanics of the universe, the universe now has robots with capacities and threat above and beyond that of dinos
@@pangrowlin3599 let's just hope this mechanic is only limited to Mantah Corp
Though I think it's the closest thing that we have to reality since they are based on actual existing robots in our universe. Vic Hoskins also mentioned robots, so it's not really outlandish, as they don't really outshine the dinosaurs
I thought the season was fine. Loved the new dinosaurs and rexes, but I would've loved there to be more focus on them rather than the robots which I thought were dumb
I liked the BRADs, but the BRAD-X-es were a step too far. I would have preferred to just have a direct BRAD upgrade instead.
Loved the return of the Spinosaurus and Dilophosaurus, and hope they get more time next season. Also glad the Ceratosaurus got more secret time.
Liked seeing the Smilodon, but annoyed it got offed in it’s second scene. Hope there’s another somewhere on the island.
Kentrosaurs got solid screen time, and I like herbivores getting more appreciation.
The… Spinoceratops? Sinosaurus? Whatever the species name for Rebel and Angel is. Liked them, it’s about time we had an herbivore hybrid.
Loved the Rex family, hate we didn’t get to see them at all after episode 7. Tho if the daughter died… props to them for killing off a Rex.
Liked Mae, definitely a favorite, but like the Rexes, she really got sidelined during the second half of the season.
Liked the reveal of Kenji’s dad being the Mantah Corp CEO. Definitely can lead to some interesting moments with Kenji and Sammy next Season.
Brooklyn/Kenji was weird. It got better later in my opinion, but if we had a romance as focus, would have preferred Darius/Brooklyn or Yaz/Sammy.
Fun fact : if you look closely some shots of the Spino when he chases Darius, you can see that he has some sort of spikes under his chin, probably due to the fact that he is more aged than in JP3
Here’s my quick review of this season
Pros:
- The Spinosaurus is back
- The Dilophosaurs are back
- The PTSD subplot
- Kash as a villain
- Main characters were all great, as usual
- Dr May is great
- The new hybrids are cute and awesome to see
- Nice to see Brooklyn take up the leadership role
- Cliffhanger at the end was cool
Cons:
- Romantic relationship came out of nowhere
- The inclusion of the bipedal dark trooper robot dogs (why do they even exist?).
- Flash drive with Dr Wu’s research is completely forgotten
- So many missed opportunities (T-Rex/Spinosaurus rematch, more hybrids, lore connections to JW:E2 Chaos Theory mode for JP3, dinosaur on the boat not being a Compy, diversity in animals species, etc.)
- Kenji/Darius conflict dies in the first episode
- Have yet to see any connection to Dominion
Overall grade for Season 4: C+
My grades for the other seasons are as follows:
Season 1 - B+
Season 2 - B-
Season 3 - A
(Sorry this is a long comment, but I had a lot going on in my head)
I’ve been waiting for Klayton’s review. I think he was far more generous than I am.
It sucked. They took the momentum gained through the first three seasons and drove it into a brick wall. 4/10
Brooklyn’s sudden tech prowess was a lazy way to solve some glaring issues the group faced.
The biomes were ridiculously convoluted and technologically over-advanced. Forgiving those grievances, they weren’t even utilized to introduce new, climate specific dinosaurs. Yutyrannus, Edmontosaurus, or even a wooly mammoth would have been amazing to see in the Arctic biome. Also, the way they determine that the hybrids aren’t compatible with a given biome is because the Dino’s are sleeping? Really?
The plot armor seemed to be at an all time high with this season. If the only way to get these kids out of a situation is to write in a highly implausible work around, maybe don’t put them in said situation. I understand it’s a show, but the fact that these apex predators become slow, bumbling lummoxes when pursuing the children is too much.
The robots were just stupid. I don’t even feel the need to elaborate. Just stupid.
The relationship (you know which one) ruined the friendship dynamic of the group. Should have left it out. Especially Darius’ reaction. The fuck was that? Edit: Holy shit… after rewatching the first few episodes of Season 1, the progress in dynamic between Darius and Brooklyn was pretty significant. They really messed up with the Kenji & Brooklyn thing.
I don’t know how they’ll move forward from this, but it took the wind out of the shows sails.
I agree with you. The start of season 4 was different but worked, by the end it flopped.
I was also thinking if they formed relationships in the show it would be Brooklyn and Darius, not Brooklyn and Kenji. Kenji seems more suited for Yaz because they both look a bit older than the rest.
I think this season had a lot of potential, but failed in execution.
@@bullymaguire9987 i think robots are a bit more reasonable than literal cloning technology
@@user-ww2rq9dd4q It depends on what fits what franchise thematically..genetic engineering is literally the entire point and honestly..the generic technology is actually scary and powerful that we even know about. Not even what governments keep classified- cloning IS not only possible,but is real. So are robots,but that goes back to-is heavy robots presence in Jurassic good for the series? I think other than drones or generic lab manufacturing,not really.
I think Season 4 was pretty good. High highs and a few low lows. I really liked that the addressed the kids have some serious PTSD after the first 3 season, I thought the new island was interesting and I thought the dino fight club idea works with this world. Looking forward to seeing more!
THANK YOU! My thoughts exactly about Kenji's dad being the owner of Mantah Corp. With full access to the park, contacts, being close with Masrani and having his own condo on the island, why would he need to blackmail a random farming family to send their teenage daughter to collect something as simple as saliva samples? Even if Daniel Kon doesn't want to do it himself, he has employees, people in JW who trust him and his own son was ALREADY going to CC! It's just not been thought out in the slightest.
Mantah Corp's plan to just make dinos fight is also poorly thought out. How is that going to be profitable? Kenji's dad is apparently a rich business tycoon but he has no idea that killing half of their incredibly pricy assets isn't going to make bank on pay per view or something? Even their experiments were so poorly thought out or controlled; "we want to know if this dino can withstand low temperatures so let's just throw it in the polar bio dome, leave it unattended and see if it dies". Seriously?? Some of that can be down to Kash being terrible and impulsive but Kenji's dad is the one who put him in charge. May's dino communication tech wasn't even Mantah Corp's plan, it was JUST dino fights. I can't get over how little effort was put into the writing of this season.
Kenji's dad is going to go bankrupt at this rate and becomes a less interesting "villain" because he is clearly just an overgrown man child who wanted to live out his childhood dream of watching dino fights each other at any cost. Such wasted potential for a company like Mantah Corp!
I loved this season! The PTSF, the romance, how demented and childish the villain was. Ya know Darius did not get much story arc time past season 1. So this was his time to show how smart he's gotten over the seasons as a leader and really listening to other people. So Kash was meant to show has smart and grown-up Darius has gotten.
Definitely a disappointing season to me, hopefully the robots aren't in season 5 much
Yeah
Yes exactly
I really want the dinosaurs to destroy the Brad X army because life finds a way.
There was an army of them that showed up at the end of the season so.....
I hated this season. So much over-the-top sci-fi baloney that it was unrecognizable as a Jurassic story. I dearly hope none of it bleeds into Dominion.
I respect that opinion you got there.
I feel the exact same
I have a feeling it will.
@@groudonor12 No it won't. The Brad X robots were created just for Camp Cretaceous only.
2:20 Now in my headcannon, this isn't the same Spino from JP3.
I saw kenjis father reveal coming. At the beginning of the season I thought it would be Dotson but once Brooklyn and the others started talking about how good of a father kenji would be I knew it would be his father.
It was the freakiest scene I have ever seen in camp cretaceous. First Brooklyn finds out kenji likes her so she likes him, then on her time simping for the dude, she's talking about how great of a father he is! And this is coming from a 13/14 year old! Like if she was older then the audience who didn't like their relationship would've let it slide. But shes young, and has the thoughts of starting a f@#&$&$* family with a 17 year old! And then there is the reveal at the end which I'm looking forward to.
I was surprised at the end, but in retrospect, him showing up and keeping an air of mystery should have made me suspicious. That meant he was important somehow and we only knew one rich guy with a questionable character in the series and that was Kenji's dad.
I really didn’t like the new season. while I was watching the number of plot holes I picked out was insane
This show was doing so well what happened?
They were more concerned with political ideologies rather than a good story this time around
I wasn’t expecting kenji and brooklyn. Personally I preferred them to explore more dinosaurs and kenji and yasmina.
It feels so weird to me because they paried up the oldest boy and youngest girl. Sure, they're only 2 years apart, but she looks 12 and him a teenager. It also came out of nowhere, I thought I was the only one who thought she would be paired with Darius, but looking at older fanfics it seems like it was the obvious pairing.
I didn't like it until I thought on it a bit. I felt like they had the best chemistry of the bunch (not that that's a high bar or anything) after the CKK scene in season 1. It's still one of my favorite character exchanges in the series.
Kenji listened to Brooklyn and understood her frustration but also knew what Brooklyn needed to hear just by virtue of the type of interpersonal relationships he had before then.
I thought Kenji and Yasmina had more chemistry/interactions, and seemed more comfortable around each other.
@@AnzuMiruku Same
In “Staying Alive”, Kesh mentions moving asset 87 into the dessert, and the only Dino out there past that point is the spino. So I think the spino came from a different biome, possibly the swamp one at the end of the season.
It's definitely a big stepdown from the previous seasons, but despite it's flaws, I still enjoyed it, so I would give it a either a 5/10 (Mixed Bag) or a 6/10 (Okay).
The dilophosaurus scene definitely felt like Jurassic park
I swear I blinked and we went from season 1 to season 4. Time can be scary sometimes o.o;
I don’t think those rexes are the ones we saw in the lost world. One is blueish and brownish green, so don’t worry klayton. Those probably some of the other rexes they cloned.
The cliffhanger at the end with Kenji's dad being president of Mantah-corp definitely has me interested in season 5.
Loved the return of Spinosaurus! Hopefully it has some respectable role in season 5 and doesn't just get completely ignored.
Yeah I felt they went too far with the robots...
Didn't mind the Brooklyn and Kenji shipping but it could've developed a bit more slowly. I'll forgive it since they've already known each other for 6 months up to this point.
Really wished they had stuck with Site B or a Site C instead of just a brand new island with no backstory or context. Don't fault them for trying something new, but I can agree with the overall assessment that it didn't really feel like a "Jurassic Park/World" story.
Hopefully season 5 is better.
I personally wish this show had more raptor action or references to when raptors killed people and managed to go somewhere without actually showing violence. It's kinda disappointing that the raptors were so easily controlled and kinda weak and didn't do anything in terms of affecting the plot.
The dog-like BRADs were fine with me (I mean, we're talking about a world where bio-engineering has given us dinosaurs, so who's to say that robotics haven't gone wild as well) but the terminator-raptors were just way too much. I also want to point out again that the dinos are different colors in pretty much each movie, so the Rexes not following the schemes of the doe and buck from JP2 really shouldn't be an issue, but we all have our own little pet-peeves so if it bothers you, who am I to judge? Really glad they finally have a Cenozoic clone on screen. The new hybrids were cute, but then so are almost all babies. Finally, the spitters being on screen for not even five minutes at the end was a real cock-tease.
Man, I've been waiting for this video! really was curious on your take, especially the Boston dynamic themed robots.
I over all enjoyed it. I think what I really liked the most is the characters are shifting dramatically with this one, addressing the state of the groups mental health. Yasmina has major PTSD or C-PTSD with the attacks and it seems like she's not the only one. Kenji commenting on how he feels like he's ignored/unloved in his family finding comfort and a connection with Brooklyn, Brooklyn not even caring about social media anymore, Ben is really trying to find who he is now life with out bumpy, Sammy just doubling down on how much she hates Manta Corp Darius being the one that hasn't changed much which I found really odd. Almost like this is his element with the dinosaurs, he's more interested in learning the behavior above anything else. So I do think the writing for the characters and their arch is on point. The dinosaur threat was much less this time around which I can see not sitting well with the audience. Shifting to the bigger threat really comes from people and companies over the Dinosurs themselves. There was a part where they were more afraid of Kash then the dinosaurs.
And that's where I'm at the end of the day okay with this season, the real enemy has always gone back to control, who is controlling what and why. Going back to the core of JP is Dr. Malcom's chaos theory. Can they make these robots really control the Dinosaurs? What was in that thing Manta Corp is developing that Darius almost tagged the Spinosaurus? This season really opened up more of those themes. Including Kash's major anger issues he can't control himself and the power he very much desires. Even going as murdering anyone in his way when he feels like it. Like, that's huge! These themes rarely get explored, especially in a kids show. Tho the only thing I wanted... was the kids to take a shower when they had the chance in Dr. Turner living space. Maybe eat more? I think getting food, sleep shower would be at the top of the list of things to do when they got to her place. again overall liked it, looking forward to season 5!
I agree with you about the robots...somehow I feel like they robbed us of more dino time. I get that they're trying to do something different, and I guess it would be a stark contrast to InGen with their human dinosaur handlers, but...yeah it felt distracting at times.
I don't call myself a Spino fanboy, but they should have made the Spino do more than basically be a cameo...
Other than that, this season was fine. Not bad, not blowing my mind, but fine.
I kinda like the season, honestly. It offers an interesting reveal about Mantah Corp, and I was a bit iffy about the robots at first. But then again, I remember they're not InGen or Masrani Global, so I can get behind that. They make the robots to assist them in monitoring and handling the dinosaurs, a foil to InGen and Masrani who prefer to treat dinosaurs much more respectfully
I enjoy how the dinosaurs are more portrayed in a rather sympathetic light here. It's a breath of fresh air seeing them not menacing the kids all the time. If anything I feel like they are more animals because they're not entirely invulnerable. It's especially rare to see T-Rex being nurturing and calm
Considering how JW films begin to explore the idea of weaponizing dinosaurs, I think Mantah Corp's agenda is still aligned with the film. Only they choose different method to control them, namely not using laser gun with acoustic signal. I notice they also seem to be still limited when it comes to creating their own dinos though, since all of their dinos were robbed from Sorna and their hybrids were only made via Sammy's contribution
I've been against romance since the beginning, but at least it doesn't take too much away from the story
That being said, seems like season 5 will probably be much bigger than this
I very enjoyed the season 4, for all the assumed choice they made, it's was interesting, alway fun and cool, and even if certain kind of element can be questionable, for me, they use and put in place the things at least correctly. Like the beginning love story between Kenji and Brooklyn, completely assumed and put and developped all along the season, and even reveal why Kenji was cold to Darius at the end of season 3. The others characters are also good developpement too, like Ben with the baby brachiosaurus, Sammy who wish revenge again Kash, this later who is a very good and terrific vilain under his appearances, or Yasmina, who is reveal to have PDST trauma. So yes, there are elements who make things goofy like or out of the place but after and intense season 3, it's a little welcome to have some volontary looseness to better apprehension to this season. Plus, now the show is no more under the pression of the movie chronologie because they are not more on Nublar, si because he is now in a way separated from the main places and by the way story of the movies, the producers freedom are very more high. Finally, it's was reveal by recent articles some days before the release that all we see was approved by Trevorrow himself, who was alway in contact with the producers team during the production of JW Domion. And it's very important to be considered.
But all is not complete stupid relaxation and thete are all along many dark and mature elements, mainly all thé subject of the experimentations on the animals, and the stress, terrible physical and mental pain they receive, all the animal cruelty right who are flout, and the theme animal fight and brain controle like they was simply machines and not life organism and only for the pleasiure of rich personnalities are very difficult to see it's so dark!
Otherwise, we have in this Season 4 the ultimate confirmation that there were never extinction of any kind on Sorna since it's show that the Spinosaurus from the third movie and a mom and daughter T-Rex was taken from this island. And very recently because it's also explicitly show that all the Mantah Corps island complex is young, only some years it's seem, and we can assume that theses specimens was taken in the 2010's years, and that the two apex species has cohabitated the island from at least 10 years without more problems.
But it's important to mention that only some dinosaurs was taken from Sorna, the most majority of the animal was cloned on place directly, like the Smilodon or Firecraker the baby brachiosaurus for exemple.
I also like the inclusion of the cute babies Spinoceratops hybrids, who give to us a complete different hybrid from the three first ones, and for the first time we hope that they will not going to die because they are hybrids. For once, they are gentle hybrids and broke the general concept that all hybrids are aggressive and bloodfirsty creatures, like the carnivorous dinosaurs was Always depicted some decennies ago.
Otherwise, the Mantah Corps island is not presented like to be close at Nublar and the episode 1 seem to show the group on the boat inconciouness lost in the sea cause by the compass who in final seem to be broken and useless.
And, for you Klayton, for the T-Rexes, i remind you that in all along the franchise we see variants in colors of the creatures, like the Pteranodons who are differents.in the second and third film, the Velociraptors in all the movies and even in the two first seasons of Camp Cretaceous. So the mom and her daughter are simply females since birth rexes who are in a grey variants of the main base form we see in the second film. It's all ! It's not a reason to make a polemic! Oh, and they are all the two grey and not green, it is especially misleading from afar for Fat Eater because it has stripes.
Finally, there maybe many elements who are not use at their complete potential and some seem to be abbandonned in the way but this Season 4 with his twist ending are more like a more bigger season who was divised into two parts, the first is season 4 and the second are the season 5 who begin directly after the last second of the last season 4 episode, so there alway time and place for the show to use the things introduce in this Season in the future.
I loved season 4 especially with Yasmina and her PTSD. It really dove into the character development of the kids and I felt the main goal was more about surviving the new technological environment. It was only towards the end of the season that they recognize as Kash and Mantah Corps as the villain now in their radar. I’d love to see more if Kenji and his relationship with his dad improving. Even if they managed to get off the island and move on in their lives, I would also love to see how these experiences changed who they are psychologically and how they’d react if they find themselves on the islands again.
Yeah, this season was just odd. I mean, the robot dogs could have worked healing the bigger and deadly dinos, but that's it; just add that a tone of money was put into them, and the public has no idea about the B.R.A.D robots.
They also should never have added the 2nd robots because they are just too odd, have humans with guns that can get killed off by the many dinosaurs on the island. It's the same with the two T- Rex; they could have said this is just another pair they found on Sorna, making it not the family we saw in the Lost World.
The relationship between two of the characters, yeah, that made no sense, and I felt it was very forced, making no sense why they were chosen either. It feels like they just picked out the names from a hat on who would become a couple.
However, I did like seeing new Dinos, and some returning ones, but I have to give this season a 5/10
I think Colin Trevorrow will be very involved in the storytelling of Season 5. It will release one month before dominion and there a lot of questions that need to be answered. If they show the Spino in dominion, then they will need to explain how it off the Biodome Island etc.
I say that the BRAD Xs are almost like The Terminator, down to being virtually indestructible. Actually, hell, a Rex would MAYBE tear a T-800 apart like a McNugget if it had no weapons to fight back. I guess Kash somehow made a deal with Stark Industries and got a supply of vibranium lmao
Like i feel most people tolerated the brads but when the black airforce enegry brad x nearly indestructible came up everybody lost it, myself included
@@khaens1116 Honestly, even the BRADs took me a bit to get past, just because it’s still a bit too futuristic when you compare it to the tech we have in our real life (Boston Dynamics etc.). Other tech in the franchise like the tablets, the “3D holograms”, hybrid animals, touch screens, they all still feel like stuff we have now to a certain degree, but the BRADS and ESPECIALLY the BRAD X feel the most outlandish besides cloning dinosaurs, which even that is less of a prop used during the story and more of the franchise’s plot device. (Think time travel from Back to the Future, or the tech from Ghostbusters.)
@@JurassicProductions i mean i tolerated theum until i saw the army of them
@@khaens1116 Yeah, I couldn't help but either go "this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen" or pee myself laughing. There was no in between.
The only thing that ruined this season for me was the romance between Brooklyn and Kenji. I never thought they would be in a relationship because I’ve always thought Brooklyn was in love with Darius and I was hoping they would be in a relationship in this season. But unfortunately that never happened. Every time there was a bit of dialogue between Brooklyn and Kenji makes the whole scene very cringe. And I kept skipping scenes through the season and I didn’t notice Brooklyn kissed Kenji until a clip was uploaded onto UA-cam and that made me feel like I would never want to rewatch this season again. Overall the story wasn’t too bad, it was just the romance that let me down ☹️
I personally enjoyed the relationship between Kenji and Brooklyn. If you go back and rewatch, you can see this wasn't an idea that just popped in the writer's heads. It did feel a bit rushed and pulled away, but for all we know, the island may not have been operational until JW fell. However, the biggest criticism I have is the BRAD-X robots. I agree they were goofy and unnecessary.
People that think that Brooklyn and Kenji came out of nowhere weren't paying attention to it - either because they didn't want to or they don't care about things like that. But it *is* there.
@@nomadicgamer9466 maybe but it’s not something to show really needed At least in my opinion
I can honestly say that this felt less of a Jurassic season and more of like something out of some sci-fi show with dinosaurs in the side I mean I love the ideas that they did with the show but from time to time I was like where is the Jurassic feeling to it even though it’s gonna be new and away from what we are used to I’ll probably get used to it overall season 4 was good and can’t wait for what season 5 will have in store.
The first two seasons pleasantly surprised me because they were written in a way to be just as enjoyable to adult fans as kids. Season 4 seems to be very much focusing on keeping the kids entertained with more hybrid monsters and now killer robots. I just want to see Dinosaurs! I-Rex was fine as a one off gimmick in JW and was fine satire of our culture always getting bored and needing bigger and ''better''. But to repeat it over and over cheapens the franchise.
I think my views on season 4 was summarized by a recent review from Screen Rants.
*"The Spinosaurus being included among Mantah Corp's menagerie was a pleasant surprise, but it was still a letdown how little the creature has to do in the course of the story. The fact that the Spinosaurus doesn't fight or kill anything and is even unable to catch six teenagers also robs the super predator of some of its menace."*
We'll have to wait for Season 5 I guess. I get it's a kids show (Netflix has it enlisted) so I wasn't expecting anything grand or high quality. Oh and the romance was unwanted and terrible. That was... ugh.
"The fact that the Spinosaurus doesn't fight or kill anything"
It killed the Saber Tooth...
@@SasquaDash Ya Screen Rant totally missed that part. I don't trust them now. XD
@@2snipe1 Screen Rant has never really been a good source, they get stuff wrong a lot. Two years ago they made a list of "Monsters That Could Beat Godzilla In A Fight", and the information they posted for most of the monsters was so blatantly wrong, that I'm convinced that they hadn't even seen half the monster movies they were listing.
Doesn't fight anything...
Are we sure this is not written by one of Mantah Corp's agents? Their whole gimmick is forcing dinos to fight for entertainment...
I have a thought though. In season 5, it's likely that Daniel and Kash manage to inject the Spino with a brain chip and successfully control it to prevent the kids from escaping. And then it's Big Eatie to the rescue after being freed
I found Season 4 a mixed bag of good & bad (it definitely made me appreciate Season 2 a lot more). It's always nice when the Jurassic Franchise brings back old creatures & introduces new ones. I'm hoping that many of the questions & plot-holes raised in this season get answered in Season 5. While I didn't really like the implementation of the robots (& I also thought Kash's whining attitude was immature and kind of annoying), I did like the subtle reference to Michael Crichton's Westworld. I also liked that this season was essentially an adaptation of Jurassic Park: Scan Command/Dinosaur Battles. I will also admit, from the start of the season, I did not expect that plot twist with Kenji's Dad & Mantah Corp. However, I felt like the romance between Kenji & Brooklyn came right out of nowhere (If anything, I think Brooklyn & Darius would've made a better couple).
I also recall one of the show creators mentioning that an element from this season would be implemented into Jurassic World: Dominion? If I had to take a guess (this was also my favorite element from Season 4), I think Dr. Turner's research on dinosaur language and communication might play an integral part in Dominion?
I’ve been hearing talk recently that the Spinosaurus we saw in this season wasn’t the same one from JP3. The reason they say is because this Spino was younger and smaller than the original. Personally, I don’t know how they can tell that this Spino is younger but it does look smaller than the original but I thought it was just that the 3D model wasn’t scaled correctly compared to the humans.
This season is a _mixed bag_ for me; yeah, my initial personal thoughts on it more or less align with yours, Klayton. I LOVE the character development and dynamics among the Campers, they're definitely the strongest point of this season such as Kenji and Brooklynn's romance and Yaz's PTSD. Dr, Mae Turner I do like (I like that she does genuinely care for the island's animals and comes to care for the Campers), and while I'm TRYING to get into Kash as like the 'new Dennis Nedry' so to speak, his constant temper tantrums and whole personality ARE a turn-off for me. I at least *tolerate* him, though.
It's just REALLY *STRANGE* to me as well that there's this whole new island located within the same radius as Isla Nublar, that's completely off the grid. It just leaves more questions than answers about it. The *technology* in this season DOES feel a _little_ TOO 'Sci Fi.' Yes, the "Jurassic Park/World" franchise is known for introducing high technology concepts, but up until this point, the technology concepts seen in the films and the first three seasons of this series have _something_ of a basis/grounding in _real life._ OK, the first generation B.R.A.D.s I'm willing to accept, given what I know about the real-life Boston Dynamics robots, but the second generation B.R.A.D-Xs? To quote _Angry Video Game Nerd,_ *"WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?! I know, I know...they WEREN'T thinking!"* And I'd REALLY like some kind of explanation as to the technology behind the artificial biomes themselves (as long as it's believable).
Personally, the dinosaurs and other prehistoric creatures in this season didn't come across to me as mere prop pieces, and most were indeed another strong point of this season. WELCOME BACK, SPINOSAURUS and ESPECIALLY *DILOPHOSAURUS* for me (we haven't seen that species since *1993* )! The _saber-toothed Smilodon_ I feel is a VERY welcome addition that SHOULD be talked about more; I've been wanting _prehistoric mammals_ to be featured in the franchise at some point, and in some way, shape, or form. And this Smilodon was utilized in a, dare I say it, BETTER way than its counterparts were in that HORRENDOUS Sy Fy B-flick, "Attack of the Sabretooth (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_of_the_Sabretooth)." I wasn't sure at first about the two new 'Spinoceratops' hybrids Angel ad Rebel, but they actually did manage to win me over. :) Same for Firecracker the baby Brachiosaurus. A Kentrosaurus named 'Pierce?' Yeah, I can dig that (no pun intended). For dinosaur characters like him, Angel, and Rebel, the writers did good in getting you (the audience) to sympathize with them. The method that Dr. Turner uses to communicate with them, to me, doesn't seem THAT far-fetched. And since that IS something of a nod to "Scan Command," it's interesting that the team behind the show would go to _that_ piece of wider franchise material for inspiration.
Overall, I give "Camp Cretaceous” Season 4 a 6.5/10.
The kenji and brooklyn romance seemed kind of forced
@@mikemoore9092 Really?
@@velociraptor4you3291 there was no build up for the past 3 seasons and majority of the time Brooklyn was always with Darius that relationship would have made more sense
@@mikemoore9092 Hmm (🤔)…interesting point.
@@velociraptor4you3291 that just my opinion
Another thing that really bothered me was that the doctor lady (I forgot her name) was cleaned up very nicely so she clearly had access to a shower and a way to wash her clothes yet she failed to offer those services to the kids who very much needed it.
Eh tbh the biome thing just goes way too far out of universe.. How big are they? How were they built? It's rediculous to me.. (IMO) The Jurassic series always was at its best feeling somewhat grounded.
Uhhh from the way the Doctor described them as "Big Eatie and Little Eatie." I just took it to mean that the pup from TLW grew while this would also confirm that rex that died in JP3 is as some fans speculated the buck from TLW
This season jumped the shark for me, and I’m getting a little tired of all the chase scenes. The show is spinning its wheels and I’m ready for it to wrap up.
Robots were trash, underused of the Spinosaurus, barely Raptors, forced romance between the 2 kids, but the biggest wtf was the Spinosaurus sound change. What were they thinking? His Jp3 roar was incredible! If it ain’t broke don’t fix it!
Season 05 going to be an interesting one, now that Kenji's father has been revealed to be the head of Mantah Core, I have a feeling Kenji's loyalties will be tested in the upcoming season, a rift might form between him and the gang including Sammy, given the fact that Kash, a Mantah Core employee, blackmailed her family, and Brooklyn, considering that she is Kenji's girlfriend...things really don't look good for Kenji it seems and all of this will surely take a toll on his mental health....🤔
Hopefully YAZ can help
I think Kenji's father role will be a nice test for his characterization
Thanks for your review, Klayton! Your review of this show did give me some points to consider. I do have some of my own theories and explanations on the logic behind the decisions made in Season 4.
1 As to why did Mantah Corp. use Sammy, a child mind you, to get dinosaur DNA, and not some other way, it's likely due to Dennis Nedry's actions in the first movie. An investigation likely concluded that he played a big part in the problems with Jurassic Park. Corporate sabotage is going to be a lot harder to pull off. This could be why Mantah Corp. tried to use Sammy's family in the first place. Better to use someone else who isn't officially associated with you to create plausible deniability. Also, Mantah Corp. wanted to use Sammy's family in general to collect dinosaur DNA however they refused, but Sammy didn't want her family to lose the ranch they had so she agreed to become a spy without her family's knowledge. Kash didn't want the opportunity to go to waste so I'm not surprised he okayed it since there was little to no perceived risk for him. After all, this is the same person who sent Darius on a suicide mission to chip the Spinosaurus.
2 As to why Kash didn't use Mae Turner's dinosaur communication device to get the dinosaurs to fight, he only just discovered Mae's research. He would need some time to examine it and come up with his own device. Also, Kash enjoys exercising power over others so he probably finds his painful methods with the drones more enjoyable.
3 As to why this season was mostly set on a completely different island that is not at all part of The Five Deaths, I think it's due to the scale of what Mantah Corp. wants to do. Trying to create all these different biomes and everything else they want to do is way too big to keep under wraps so closely under the eyes of Masrani and InGen. Having your own island that is not part of The Five Deaths, but close enough to them to acquire dinosaurs and dinosaur DNA for your own purposes is much easier to hide when it's your own island and you don't have to worry about anyone else. Also, the island the Campers land on is said to be off the maps so even better.
4 I know some fans would have preferred the Campers landing on Site B, but I'm going to ask you something. What would have made that island different enough from a story standpoint to justify going there? I know you would say something like, "Well, the Spinosaurus is (or rather was) there and there are some different breeds of Velociraptor there."
My response to that just a couple of different dinosaur species or breeds isn't enough of a reason to justify going there. The island the Campers landed on in Season 4 was something substantially different and brought Mantah Corp. to the forefront. Sorna, at least at the point in time in which Camp Cretaceous is set in the Jurassic Park timeline, isn't as interesting as one would potentially think. It seems most of the dinosaurs on that island were moved to Nublar when Jurassic World was first established since why would you waste all those assets? You need a lot of dinosaurs for your dinosaur theme park, and it probably took a while for the cloning facilities to get run back since the cloned dinosaurs' image would need to be rehabilitated for the general public due to all the deaths from the first movie as well as the events of the T-rex San Diego rampage and those escaped Pteranodons from JPIII.
Also, I highly doubt the Spinosaurus would have been let to run amok on Site B when Jurassic World was being established in the early to mid 2000s since considering how aggressive it is. It would have been killing off a good amount of dinosaurs and almost single handedly destroying the ecosystem. Dinosaurs aren't cheap to make so the Spinosaurus' reign of terror couldn't have lasted that long from an in-universe standpoint without the higher-ups stepping in and insuring that their assets would be protected meaning that the Spinosaurus likely would have been disposed of or contained and relocated. Thankfully, for us Spinosaurus fans, the creature still lives. If Camp Cretaceous was set in a much earlier point in the timeline, it would make more sense to go Site B, but Camp Cretaceous is set around the events of Jurassic World and not JPIII.
Now that I brought up these factors about Site B to consider, imagine for a moment that Campers got stranded there instead of wherever they landed in Season 4. They would be on another island without any way off of it, no way to contact anyone or at least not have service available from where there at, and be back to dealing with being on an island with dinosaurs without any other humans on it, and probably sink further into despair since if someone else did ever come to get them, they would be looking on Site A rather than Site B and have no idea that their latest escape attempt resulted in them being trapped on a different island entirely. If they ever did find wreckage from the ship they would examine it and realize that the Mosasaur got to it and assume the worst. It feels too much like a repeat of aspects from the previous seasons. I think the writers on some level at least realized some of these points and went with the decisions they made in Season 4. Heck, Darius, for a very brief moment, is able to make contact with his brother showing that he's still alive. Had the Campers landed on Site B instead, it's highly likely that moment wouldn't have been possible.
5 On the subject of the robots, I know people were caught surprised by the robots, primarily the BRAD X's, but this isn't the first time that this franchise showed off technology more advanced than one would think. Jurassic World showed off hologram technology and futuristic computers which caught me off guard the first time I saw the movie. It seemed a bit much.
However, Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom was a big game changer and revealed that Maisie Lockwood is a fully fledged human clone. Cloning and recreating extinct animals are one thing, but a human being is something else entirely. Do you really think the biological side of science in the Jurassic Park Universe is the only side that would be more advanced than our own especially since cloning has been around for decades in-universe? I don't think progress like that would be so limited to one area.
Furthermore, there are other reasons why such advanced drones and robots would be needed. Even with trained soldiers and superior firepower, Dinosaurs are still incredibly fast and/or powerful as well as crafty. Look at Jurassic World and the rampage that the Indominus Rex did and when it managed to get the raptor squad on its side temporarily. They slaughtered the soldiers with ease. The only dinosaur who the soldiers managed to kill was Charlie, and that was really only due to her going through something of an internal conflict due to her previous relationship with Owen meaning she only died due to a vulnerability that wouldn't exist with other dinosaurs. If you're going to attempt to control dinosaurs why would you go with such an inefficient method?
The drones and robots solve this problem. With proper direction and equipment, they can coerce the dinosaurs into doing what Mantah Corp. wants through electricity and tranquilizing gas without throwing human body after body at it. The only thing they really lacked was durability which the BRAD X's cover. One of the BRAD X's managed to endure some damage from the Spinosaurus which is pretty impressive. They help avoid making other humans just be a waste of lives and resources and payment.
Thanks again for your work, Klayton.
The best part of Season 4 is the Spinosaurus
Yeah
The one thing that bothers me about him was his new colors and how he wasn't looking one to one like in jp3 (although I know it's the same individual)
Two things. One: did nobody listen to the camp councilors that were trying to say there were kids left behind or did they just not say anything when they got back to the mainland? Two: These kids are still dealing with being chased by dinosaurs, stranded on an island, and now have an evil villain ready to kill the only other person he knows (at the time) is on the island, and have killer robots now chasing them too, do they really have time for crushes? Just doesn't seem like the thing they'd be thinking about. But I'm sure the relationship between Kenji and Brooklyn will be used when it comes to the Kenji's dad situation
The spino didn’t live in the desert because with subtitles when spino roars it is called asset 87 and Kash says a line that they would put asset 87 in the desert so the spinosaurus does not live in the desert
Asset 87 is the code name given to the spino
They made such a big deal about the dinos living in the right biome, with the Kentrosaurus not being able to stand the cold while Rebel and Angel were engineered for it. But then they put the Spinosaurus, an animal that lived in a jungle/swamp-like biome and probably had a semiacuatic life style, in the desert and it doesn't seem to affect it at all! That really bothered me.
Season 4 was just plain awful. The teens choices throughout were so mind-bogglingly insane that the show writers clearly must’ve run out of ideas. You mean to tell me these kids grew so suspicious of Dr. Turner that they immediately turned around and snuck back into the Tyrannosaur forest to explore the one place she told them not to go? Insane writing. Also the saber tooth & spinoceratops were random AF, and the killer robots all but ruined the season. I dread thinking about what the writers will come up with next. Human/dino hybrids are 1-2 seasons away, just wait.
Season 4: the Campers meet Dr. Eggman's younger cousin (which is that guy Cash BTW)
Cringe
Exactly
I enjoyed Season 4 a lot overall. I thought there was lots of interesting new ideas set up. Hopefully they’ll explain more of the stuff left open in season 5. Maybe Kenji’s dad couldn’t get the sample because it look suspicious, or maybe Manticore had lots of undercover agents at Jurassic World.
While I still enjoyed season 4, honestly the hybrid thing is getting really stale. It played a much smaller role this time around. But hey we got to see the dilophosaurus, I love the trilling sound they make
That whole season felt to me like it was done by completely new writer staff, who have no prior knowledge of the franchise at all.
Main issues for me were the sudden romance plot (I loved the fact, that it was all about friendships in Season 1-3), dinosaurs becoming side characters, robots and technology far too extreme. Also the show felt much dumber and the „feeling“ talks were unrewarded by the plot. How can a facility like that be run by just one guy?
I am not looking forward to the future of the franchise.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this season was weak. I was really disappointed that it was more focused on the BRADs then dinosaurs. Like none of the dinosaurs were treated like an actual threat and more as an inconvenience. I think everyone was really let down in the Spinosaurous, it was very cool but it's scenes felt really brief and almost pointless. As for the kids I did like that they showed Yaz was experiencing PTSD. The whole thing with Brooklyn and Kenji however was just flat out weird in my opinion considering neither of them had much chemistry previously.
I loved that the compy followed the campers around and was pretty sad when they killed it.
This sure was a weak season. The whole season could have been told in just about 3 episodes. There wasn't a whole lot going on other than generic dinosaur vs. human chases. The robots and drones were utterly stupid. For me, this season took the story completely in the wrong direction. The biodomes made no sense. The kids could just walk into the desert biodome after being shipwrecked? Apparently there is no roof to them either, but still they are able to control the weather in each biodome separately. Weird... Nope, this was not what I expected at all from season 4.
The twist about Kenji's dad being the head of Mantah Corp was interesting, and I wonder what development he will go through as season 5 goes along. Personally the Spinosaurus' return was the highlight for me. Everytime it was onscreen, it always presented itself to be a major threat
Okay but the BRAD X design wasn't exactly necessary
I am of the persuasion that they had many good ideas, but executed their panoply in a suboptimal manner. I trust they can improve upon the same in the next season. I personally did not mind this season at all, and it is definitely something I should be tempted to re-watch, the Kenji-Brooklyn angle notwithstanding. I would personally have preferred for none to descend into the confusing cavern of romance, but oh well.
This whole season jumped the shark but as a huge Jurassic fan, I’ll take what I can get.
Been waiting for your review Klayton! Great video as always
Season 4 didnt feel like a season. The relationship was rushed, robots took over the season, making it hard to watch the rest. The spino was pretty amazing and same with the dilos. I also like the references like delta and echo being controlled by drones. This feels like a big preview for season 5. I think its my leats favorite in all seasons but season 3 still holds the title of best in my opinion.
Those were not echo or delta
@@TerryRexington i saw the blue aroud the eye, thats delta buddy
@@thedinocamman any actual evidence? They said they took their dinosaurs from Sorna not nublar and where is your proof that it is her? She was killed by the indominus
@@thedinocamman just because she looks like her doesn't mean it's delta, look at one of the t-rexes she looks like the bull from the lost world and yet she's female and has a daughter not a son and has no mate and also any word from the creators that it is delta? Give me evidence first before you say that delta and echo survived because they did not
@@TerryRexington man i dont have 30 years to fight some guy so im out thats my and your opinion like
I was under the impression that Big Eatie and Little Eatie were the female tyrannosaur from the m/f pair in The Lost World and Little Eatie is the young rex with the injured leg, all grown up years later. I assumed the male was still on Sorna.
The season started off interesting, but quickly spiraled into ridiculousness and repetetiveness.. the whole robot antagonist thing was tiresome, especially when suddenly there were these invulnerable mecha godzilla knockoffs all over..
Most of the dinosaurs present felt like they were just there to be eye candy to keep the audience somewhat interested. The plot itself was just bad.. the previous seasons all had pretty weak writing overall, but this one had the weakest by far. I dare say I'd call it an insult to the intelligence of the viewer, with just how silly it is.
I mean, seriously, a researcher alone on an island with dinosaurs.. and she has NO way of contacting anyone or anything in case of an emergency? Come the fuck on..
And the main antagonist being some out of shape white dude with a zoomer haircut and serious anger issues got boring very quickly. Just a super shallow character overall.
I know it's not meant to be a high end show, but they could at least try to make it compelling..
That wasn’t an ending I was expecting, well I was expecting Dodson but hey this was much more impactful.
This isn't a very good season in my eyes plot holes, forced relationship, and shitty writing 4/10.
From what I'm hearing, I kinda feel like this season was made specifically as a place holder for whatever they have planned next. Like this could be a prequel to the kids winding up on Sorna next, where they can get a means of escaping. Could be wrong, though, as I haven't actually watched it yet.
The constant push to have "dinosaurs as weapons" is wearing this franchise REAL thin
Hey Layton I’m a die hard Jurassic fan so thank you creating this channel and explaining more in what’s going on in cannon so thanks for your channel
Did anyone else notice how certain character models would switch back and forth between how the character looked for this season, and then to an older model from previous seasons? When Kenji & Darius have a conversation later in this season, Kenji has his beard one second, and then is suddenly clean-shaven the next. It really broke my immersion.
Yeah I noticed Kenji’s beard disappear a couple times in that scene. Think it was a mistake
Unfortunately, Season 4 did not deliver what it could or should have. While it had its moments, the bad definitely outweighed the good. I feel the plot deviated way too far from the lore of the JP franchise. The robots were absolutely pointless, and a bit ridiculous. Kenji's redemption arc was completely lost to the Kenji/Brooklyn relationship storyline (which I think lessened the dynamic of Camp-Fam and made absolutely no sense), and MantaCorp's formal introduction into the story was unstructured, inconsistent, and very disappointing. A lot was sacrificed for the sake of being "cool", in my opinion. But it failed miserably. Of course, JP has exaggerated scientific accuracies in the past, but to an extent, the franchise has still been somewhat believable... until now. Especially the idea of using neurotechnology to control the mind and temperament of a dinosaur... immediately no. Past seasons left the writers with so much to work with, and I feel Season 4 was a wasted opportunity. My rating is a hard 3.5/10. I'm going to give the season credit for the re-introduction of fan-favorite dinosaurs like Diloposaurus and Spinosaurus. Kenji's dad being the president of MantaCorp was a great cliff-hanger. And of course, Darius made contact with his brother who commits to finding him.
Klayton did you notice the Spinosaurs roar isnt the same as in JP3
There are some of its subtle grunts and growls but iconic roar for some reason isn't used. It's like universal loss the file or something.
@@T-REX-KNIGHT I noticed the deep growls but that iconic really added character to it
I wish instead of being a new-island, they had revealed it was a massive modified ship of some sort... That would have been cool, and would have played into the theme of technology in this season really well, without it feeling forced, or two high tech.... and it could have made for a good mid-season plot twist, especially if they were somehow able to get there coordinates out and ask for help, only to realize those coordinates are now invalid.
I've been waiting for this cause I knew Klayton was gonna have some thoughts and I really wanted to know what he thought of it. I liked most of it but I didn't like Kash or the overuse of robots.
Mantah corp’s boss is Kenji’s dad. Now THAT, was one big twist. You also forgot that Darius’s brother Brandon got a call from Darius, and Brandon gets to know that Darius is alive. I wonder if Brandon finds Darius and his friends in season 5.😃😃