Seeing some comments like "sasuke copium" or just "sasuke wank" if you honestly walked away from this video thinking I was gassing sasuke idk what to tell you. A lot of people also missed the point of the vid, it was analyzing WHY these characters did these actions and how they had repercussions while discussing the feats themselves, not to simply make excuses for them and that extends to Bee as well. That being said there are some things you have to say to be fair to sasuke is he at 100% NO. Would he have beat Bee if he was? NO. This is a fight analysis not me saying Sasuke > Bee which idk even how some people are interpreting that.
Cause it's just an agenda. And some people can't see beyond their own "likes" and "dislikes". plus at that point in the story you can count how many people can contend with a perfect jinchuriki of the second strongest bijuu .
I mean it’d be different if I wasn’t presenting new info, there is genuinely some things people misunderstand with this fight. Like the Mistrans, Amaterasu Feat, etc.
Can we get a Kisame vs Sasori video please Kisame is my favorite akatsuki member but i Low key think he loses to sasori please make video on it@@ThunderGodTG
Ironically Obito would have mid to low diffed him if he went by himself lol 😂honestly if he took on most of the missions the show would have been over with the bad guys winning
The funniest part will always be that Sasuke never really won the fight. Bee didn't loose but actually used that as a way to escape his older brother, making it look like the amaterasu knock down was a part of his plan.
I think people discount the circumstances that would make Sasuke do as bad as he did in this fight. As TG said Sasukes stats were basically swapped around to a degree that made it completely impossible for him to fight in the ways he was used to up until that point. As he adapted he clearly became more capable, evidenced by him being able to compete with the Raikage to the extent that the Raikage was willing to just lose his leg in order to maybe kill Sasuke.
Yea, he got jumped, was outnumbered and had no info at all on his enemies, while Taka atleast knew they were fighting a jinchuriki. He still effortlessly bodied them.
@twinodoom If Killer B was fresh, Taka would have been Takoyaki, lol. Sasuke is the only possible low Kage level among them. The rest are Jonin at best, and even that is debatable. That is nowhere near enough to capture a well-rested Killer B even in base form.. Heck, he would only need his pencil to kill each of them!
i mean not protecting sauske but it was stated before they fought bee sauske was not completely healed up from his fights with itachi and deidara. not to mention killer bee has a tail beast worth thousands of ninjas in side him so it seems fairly even.
I think my appreciation for this fight has grown thanks to this video. I think it's interesting that Jujutsu Kaisen specializes in jumping, but Naruto fights usually develop into 1v1 fights even though shinobi usually work in teams of 3 or more.
You should do Sasuke vs Danzō Shimura. People sleep on just how lucky Sasuke was by simply surviving it, let alone winning. The plot truly saved his life. There were many times when Sasuke should've died, but didn't. We'll start with the fact that Danzō had Kotoamatsukami on recharge when Sasuke pulled up on him. Danzō held back because he thought he was going to fight "Madara" afterwards. Karin saved his life by warning Sasuke after one of Danzō's initial Izanagi uses which allowed him to dodge the sword behind him. Karin saved his life again by being a brief enough distraction for Sasuke to get mad enough to break from the paralysis seal before Danzō decapitated him. And Obito saved him again when he warned him of Danzō's Reverse Four Symbols Sealing.
Youll notice when sasuke wins its always when he tries hard and actually uses his head but when he loses its just always when hes angry and just rushing the fight not thinking just full bloodlusted
Good video. Now, it would make my day if you made one talking about Sasuke vs Ay and setting the fanboys straight on how that fight actually went. Far too many people mistakenly believe that it was a 10-0 matchup in Sasuke's favour when it was in fact far more even and would even lean in Ay's favor had he not been so bloodlustedly reckless.
i think the anime showing Bee manhandling Sasuke with his 7 Sword Style is cool and based. it makes sense too. not only did Bee just disrespect him by writing rap lyrics after the fight began, he could actually back up this attitude. it's like when an Elite Smash player uses their main, and after first KO they taunt the opposing player.
For anyone saying "Sasuke would have won with that genjutsu if B didn't have a way out": Sasuke would have died long before that if he didn't have a team selected to act like Estus flasks to keep him alive vs Soulsborne bosses like B.
Very good video, it's nice to see killer Bee due to how he is slept on in community, it's very nice idea for the series as many fights in Naruto are misinterpreted and people miss a lot of context which leads to scaling inconsistencies which normally wouldnt exist. Btw. Where is your strongest kunoichi video? I wanted to rewatch it but it was nowhere to be found
It really was mainly because Nagato wasn’t even in control of himself during that fight. I feel like that fight would’ve went extremely different had he been in control of himself instead of Kabuto.
@ayoflip6199 I actually always point out how Kabuto isn't even in his Sage Mode when he's controlling Nagato, then add to the fact that Itachi actively uses Kabuto's goal tracked mind to fight him. When Itachi is fighting with Sasuke, Kabuto ignores Itachi to get his goal, and Itachi explicitly states he knows that Kabuto does this and plans around this. This is exactly what Itachi does against Base Kabuto controlled Nagato. This is also shown by the fact that Kabuto never directly attacks Itachi and only does when he's also attacking Killer Bee and Naruto. Then we also have to notice Itachi never directly confronts Nagato until he's distracted or blinded by Itachis' antics.
@@Bgfire1000 he is tho 5k summit Sasuke shows comparable speeds to them, and the Itachi was known to be faster/fast as Sasuke. And if it wasn’t physical speed, he definitely has mental speed He made up a timeline for his girlfriend of living a happy life together for 80 years.
i had no idea the anime changes so much from the manga here. also the mistranslation part is huge, coz even tho i still think hes referring to minato at least hes not saying that weak ver of sasuke is stronger than jonin minato who with his one shot chapter scaling is insane even back then
3:11 "He didn't really" he just folded Jugo and got kicked in the chest by Sasuke, Bro can't admit that sasuke and his team got clapped by a dude writing bars mid fight.
They called me crazy. They called me a mad man. Said i "failed to understand the narrative kishimoto intended." Taka wouldve had sasuke merch if they let him go alone.
Bee uses that a last resort sort off of guard move in character he leads with his swords first, obviously swords > pencil while both are amped. It also just shows how much more serious he was taking the Kisame fight.
@@ThunderGodTG that’s the thing. When Bee used it against Kisame he sacrificed accuracy for speed because if the speed wasn’t high enough than Kisame could have easily reacted. I think in a controlled environment Bee is more accurate with it.
I'm saying there is no reason he would actually use it over his sword first realistically, the Kisame it was more relevant since he had it out & also used it when he was out of weapons but, 9/10 times bro is not using that , nor is Sasuke getting negged by a lightning pencil.
What if Hebi Sasuke, the one that fought Deidara (both wings, Manda, Orochimaru's substitution, the hydra), fought Bee instead? 1 VS 1. I guess Bee still wins, but it would make for an interesting fight, in my opinion!
Very good analysis! Really hope my boy Kisame gets the same treatment someday. I feel like there are a lot of misconceptions about him, because he was so buffed against Killer B and very nerfed against Guy
Kisame was a perfect matchup againts B and is a terrible matchup againts guy. Guy is all taijutsu and doesnt have much chakra to give away, while killer B is a chakra goldmine.
Sasuke: *Gets shit on several times* Thunder: Oh, it’s just his mistakes due to lack of info Bee: *Clearly has no idea about black flames and assumes his strongest form to finish off the enemy* Thunder: See that? He got cocky
First of all this is a goofy comment you def gotta realize second of course he got shit on he’s out stated that’s so obvious and I established that so early on, his mistakes were more logical while being out stated (obviously which I mention) while Bee’s were of a character flaw, as he assumed a form completely unnecessarily, could have won EASILY in V1. I also open multiple interpretations like Bee being fatigued, joking around/not taking Taka seriously, etc. So you clearly just listened to half the video. Don’t act weird when I legit made it clear Sasuke wasn’t on Bee’s level. Do dudes just want to hear Sasuke gets shit every 5 minutes which I established very early with base Bee instead of actually analyzing the fight? Insanely goofy response let go of the Bias I promise it won’t hurt saying both combatants fucked up for different reasons with Bee just being stronger by a lot throughout. Just like Bee didn’t know about Amaterasu Sasuke didn’t know about Bee’s abilities. Does it change anything even he does? Like I said NO he still loses hard but, I did want to discuss how this impacts both characters and offers nuance to the fight. But nah you’re right let’s stay on bullshit and just talk about characters getting slammed instead of actually analyzing.
I wouldn’t say way less since it’s more so noted to be a regen/stamina boost + Sasuke actually didn’t plan to absorb Oro while still prepping to fight Itachi meaning it couldn’t have been FAR beyond his actual strength. The Oro substitution is clutch af tho I agree it’s nutty
So I think that Sasuke should get blamed for not getting enough information before the fight. He was cocky and thought his team could fight B without ANY information or scouting. Karen is literally one of the best sensory ninja in the manga at the time and they still didn’t even bother to spend like a day to scout him out or see how strong he is.
He does not touch Bee in the anime, since in the manga he kicks himself off Bee’s head the anime is just a little harder to judge he does not touch bro.
It’s just a bunch of afterimages, Sasuke is just doing flips, the manga he literally uses Bee’s head as a launching point which the anime would have made clear.
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You come across as someone who doesn't read for personal enjoyment, just want to talk shit and get attention, unstandable you hold this as one of Sasukes biggest fails, this fight was the same concept as minato becoming nerfed mid war arc, not because he lacks the power but simply because he doesn't view the fight as how it should have been. kishimoto cooks, y'all microwave.
I actually don’t know why dudes turn into a Sasuke hate kinda thing like it’s pretty clear he just lost the fight albeit in a bit of a nerfed position. Dudes are acting like Bee wouldn’t smoke literally 98% of characters introduced at that point
@@ThunderGodTGnah no sasuke hate he’s in my top 3 and i love this fight for him even nerfed he still held up against a beast like bee i just like stirring the pot early in the morning what can i say 😆
So Sasuke kept up with base bee in taijutsu but was just suprised by the 8 sword style, and also had no way to actually damage a tank like Bee, so honestly fullpower sasuke vs base bee actually isn't a crazy big difference, but it's still a gap, nvm bijuu cloak
Honestly this video just goes over slight intricacies through the fight. The dodging version 1 from Sasuke I think happened the same both ways in the adaptation and manga. Onto the statements from Bee and the Amaterasu feat. One could also say his tentacles happened to be in front of him when Amaterasu hit, since they were everywhere and his opponent was in front of him. I also HIGHLY doubt Bee was able to be fast enough to block Amaterasu, considering its never been stated for him to be that fast. If he were, I imagine it'd be stated somewhere since it'd be a big deal. It's also important to note that A had 16 years to get stronger than Minato and while Bee didn't exactly fight blow for blow, they did have an encounter where Bee saw his skills.
Opponents can sense the buildup of chakra this happens all the time Base Naruto in the Final Valley blocks it with an equally stronger Sasuke. The Raikage Aim Dodges it who’s supposed to be a Rival to the 8 tails. I also addressed the tentacle thing in the vid and show the panel right before they’re all behind Bee. The Sasuke anime manga feat is different he never even touches Bee’s head in the anime.
@@ThunderGodTG @ThunderGodTG Well he never was stated to have or be able to do that. Everyone usually knew it was coming from the eye change and the blood. You can sense it and with a sharingan you can see it but sense it, it's debatable with Bee. If he did sense it, I believe it'd be shown. He might've also known what Amaterasu was. Again I still don't think he was blocking it. I mean he was on fire, he might've moved it to hit the flames and try to get them out. That aside, again, I don't think he's on par with A's speed. The Raikage who WAS on par with the 8 tails was the 3rd Raikage and they killed each other nearly. Maybe they were rivals but I just don't think Bee is fast enough
@@ThunderGodTG also yeah but even though it was linear it was still fast as heck. maybe he did aim dodge it but to even dodge it at all is a crazy feat.
I’m trying to help you out bro he reacted straight up I’m filling in the blanks for you. Reread the chapter my man it’s 411-412 the tails are behind him they move in front. The Third Raikage is also is not a good metric idk why we’d compare Bee as a Jin to a Raikage who tied with just the 8 Tails.
And "dawg" if Sasuke came in with intent to kill using Ms he'd have won, Sasukes trying to subdue.. not to hard to comprehend.. also statements of weaker characters like suigetsu stating to not hold back doesn't equate to Sasuke going all out, and manga fight isn't even that one sided
@joshr9812 But suigetsu said they should go for the intent to kill while they are mid fight implying they were not going all out at the start even tho it wouldn't matter
Lol these comments tho. Yall act like bee was some kinda pushover or fodder. Nobody brings up ohnoki and muu 2 kage level fighters got slapped by madara. Its not weak to loose to the strong
Need a video explaining everything we know about the Land of Snow. Man I just rewatched the movie and the Ice Style moves from those guys were Liiit, plus their Chakra Enhancing suits were hype
Was talking about the Suigetsu feats with Hobby Horse. Honestly MOST underrated part of the fight, Bee began taking it seriously, and couldn't put Suigetsu down immediately! That's HUGE.
Nah, it's just the deluded Narutards who think so. Sasuke and his team won the fight but lost the objective and that's all there is to it. If anything it showcases how strong and tactical Sasuke actually is. Can't help it when you all are so deep down into your delusions.
yea makes sense, I doubt B would seperate himself from Gyuki in the same way Naruto wouldn't from Kurama, they had a friendship. Kurama made a hard call knowing Naruto wouldn't agree and seperated himself (which btw is kinda crazy he can just do that in the first place loool) @@ThunderGodTG
TG I need your thought...Question regarding Blue B/Fukai: How old was he? Its stated the blue b died with 22. If killer B became jinchuriki with 5/6 years old, as he became Jinchuriki of the 8t right after Blue B died, that makes him 16-17 years older than Killer B...and about 6-7 years older than A (4th Raikage)... ...so Blue B would be about 52-53 in Part 2??? Its also stated Furui (Motoi's father) died with 32, 30 years prior to the war. That was due to the rampage of Gyuki when Blue B was his Jinchuriki. This makes sense timewise as Killer B would have been 5 or 6 at that time.
Lack of information about a opponent doesn’t take sasuke off the hook like I can’t remember who said it but they said “ it’s not like your opponent is just going to scream out their special abilities before you start a battle “ itachi sends out clones in a fight to find out others abilities: Minato had a full blown discussion with himself about obito powers and analyzing them 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
18:00 . the bit about bee not considering the fight between bee and minato as an actual fight is kinda head canon. The scene shows both bee and ay attacking and being attacked by minato. That is a fight. so I'd say bees statement about sasuke being the second strongest is valid so sasuke > jonin minato. Also explains why theres a big deal made about the evolution of shinobi.
You can def say whatever the reason I lean towards it excluding minato is due to the statements correlating and sharing similarities in both fights. Being comparable to the Raikage is also mark for Shinobi evolution since he’s insane, so it’s more so just drawing a narrative based on established evidence rather than head cannon but that’s just me say whatever
In terms of the flip to dodge, the anime and the manga are actually the same as theres an onomatopoeia/sound indicator and a visual indicator of bees head also being tapped in the manga as well imo
In the anime there is no extra sound nor is there any motion/showing of Bee’s head getting tapped. In the manga it’s literally a launchpad whereas the anime that’s just no the case.
Sasuke’s performance in this fight is embarrassing, but also no one in Naruto at this point is ready for the power of a perfect jinchuriki. When you remember that Pain struggled with feral naruto, there’s a good chance even he would have lost vs B.
The way I see the Chidori feat is that (in the Anime) Sasuke is tagging Bee with the palm of his hand, coursing Chidori through Bee as an electric attack, not with a piercing attack that he is shown using for example when he stabs Ay in the Summit using his pointed hand as normal. I believe Sasuke was going for a stun, similar to when he channeled Raiton into Yamato, rather than a full on Chidori stab. There's no character in the series whose base skin and muscles are just strong enough to catch Chidori. That's just not how it works. They're still *people*. Swords and knives and daggers don't just bounce off of strong people because they're strong.
@@Necromancer4267 sorry I thought you were talking about a different chidori moment. But Chidori can be grabbed. That’s what I meant. Are you talking about when they three on one Bee? To your point, did anyone ever think that Bee was hit with a direct Chidori? I think we all thought it was a stun.
@@Necromancer4267 hold up here, Sasuke has different levels to his piercing Chidori depending on the circumstances. Killerbee is durable just like when Naruto didn’t quite get obliterated the same way Haku did after getting a lightning blade to the chest, the former merely using a hand to nullify most of what was supposed to be a pierce ( more in the anime) Sasuke is capable of piercing, but he had no wind up distance, ( thats when it’s at its strongest) and Bee of the eight tails absolutely can tank a wounded sasuke‘s BEST attempt at a stationary jab. Just like 12 year old Naruto did( stun feature is always active, it’s lightning no matter what ) It’s still impressive, and was meant to do more than paralyze Bee for a couple seconds.
Three people attack, then after Sasuke lands a blow (no damage) he takes out his notebook and writes some bars. "BUT it's not mid fight" ..... make it make sense
The point I was trying to make was that it wasn’t as if he was gonna do that while Sasuke had his sharingan or MS out, Taka just lined up gaunlet style for him. It was disrespectful af don’t get me wrong but, it just isn’t really that crazy since Sasuke himself isn’t all out.
Okay I feel that. You've earned a sub from me for this video for sure, but I'm like how you gonna say that wasn't mid fight? But your explanation makes me feel like I know where you're coming from bro.
Appreciate it yeah just like wording on my end, like it’s technically mid fight but dudes be overblowing it imo and making it seem like Bee could have wrote bars at any time
Obito at least could have told sauske that genjutsu wouldnt work...or that bee was a madterclass swordsman.....or that he could fully manifest the 8 tails....or literally anything at all
I think of this fight as a showing of why the MS is so strong. Sasuke starts the fight as weaker than his hebi version but he finishes as much stronger. Bee bodied them though
Seeing some comments like "sasuke copium" or just "sasuke wank" if you honestly walked away from this video thinking I was gassing sasuke idk what to tell you. A lot of people also missed the point of the vid, it was analyzing WHY these characters did these actions and how they had repercussions while discussing the feats themselves, not to simply make excuses for them and that extends to Bee as well. That being said there are some things you have to say to be fair to sasuke is he at 100% NO. Would he have beat Bee if he was? NO. This is a fight analysis not me saying Sasuke > Bee which idk even how some people are interpreting that.
Cause it's just an agenda. And some people can't see beyond their own "likes" and "dislikes". plus at that point in the story you can count how many people can contend with a perfect jinchuriki of the second strongest bijuu .
My guess is because of your click bait title
@@Orchaisama id say the thumbnail
I mean it’d be different if I wasn’t presenting new info, there is genuinely some things people misunderstand with this fight. Like the Mistrans, Amaterasu Feat, etc.
Can we get a Kisame vs Sasori video please Kisame is my favorite akatsuki member but i Low key think he loses to sasori please make video on it@@ThunderGodTG
Obito sent this man to die lmao
LMFAOOOOO
man could've at least given him basic mangekyo pointers or some shit
@@Dragon-md4gr at the VERY least be like "hey genjutsu won't work" LOL
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Ironically Obito would have mid to low diffed him if he went by himself lol 😂honestly if he took on most of the missions the show would have been over with the bad guys winning
The funniest part will always be that Sasuke never really won the fight. Bee didn't loose but actually used that as a way to escape his older brother, making it look like the amaterasu knock down was a part of his plan.
This video confirms we read it right.
Bee bodied them all. It doesn’t mean sasuke was weak, but he got bodied and Bee flopped himself
Yeah, it just wasn't as much of a stomp it seems
Bruh said it wasnt a stomp 💀
@@lucidniprogramer589 brain dead sasuke fan
@@lucidniprogramer589my dude…it was a stomp.
@@Invisibleboy999 it was definitely a stomp
He has been my toughest opponent (caves Sasukes chest in)
It's like they think Sasuke supposedly being his toughest opponent means Sasuke had a chance.
@@rjsblanket3024fr bro was getting waxed, waned, and washed all at the same time for 70% of the fight
I’m glad we watched the same fight.
Sasuke def was not his toughest opponet, lmao.
sasuke clearly got his ass beat but its weird to me people think that it was plot armor
I think people discount the circumstances that would make Sasuke do as bad as he did in this fight. As TG said Sasukes stats were basically swapped around to a degree that made it completely impossible for him to fight in the ways he was used to up until that point. As he adapted he clearly became more capable, evidenced by him being able to compete with the Raikage to the extent that the Raikage was willing to just lose his leg in order to maybe kill Sasuke.
Keep in mind, B is not even fresh. He was training for days straight. He was tired, and hungry. If sasuke didnt have Karin, he would be dead.
Yea, he got jumped, was outnumbered and had no info at all on his enemies, while Taka atleast knew they were fighting a jinchuriki. He still effortlessly bodied them.
@@wititorac he would have gone cloak version 2 and it would have been over right there.
They caught B lacking, but he still had the advantage
@twinodoom If Killer B was fresh, Taka would have been Takoyaki, lol. Sasuke is the only possible low Kage level among them. The rest are Jonin at best, and even that is debatable. That is nowhere near enough to capture a well-rested Killer B even in base form.. Heck, he would only need his pencil to kill each of them!
i mean not protecting sauske but it was stated before they fought bee sauske was not completely healed up from his fights with itachi and deidara. not to mention killer bee has a tail beast worth thousands of ninjas in side him so it seems fairly even.
I think my appreciation for this fight has grown thanks to this video.
I think it's interesting that Jujutsu Kaisen specializes in jumping, but Naruto fights usually develop into 1v1 fights even though shinobi usually work in teams of 3 or more.
You should do Sasuke vs Danzō Shimura. People sleep on just how lucky Sasuke was by simply surviving it, let alone winning. The plot truly saved his life. There were many times when Sasuke should've died, but didn't. We'll start with the fact that Danzō had Kotoamatsukami on recharge when Sasuke pulled up on him. Danzō held back because he thought he was going to fight "Madara" afterwards. Karin saved his life by warning Sasuke after one of Danzō's initial Izanagi uses which allowed him to dodge the sword behind him. Karin saved his life again by being a brief enough distraction for Sasuke to get mad enough to break from the paralysis seal before Danzō decapitated him. And Obito saved him again when he warned him of Danzō's Reverse Four Symbols Sealing.
i was talking to a friend about this 👍🏽
Stop crying about sasuke plot armor , pain could've kill naruto many times but you all say oh naruto sage mode destroyed pain and shit
@@akrammeziane9979his shit is crazy but sasukes plot armor is roided tf out
@@fgggg8944 both sasuke and naruto got plot armor
@@akrammeziane9979But… Pain was specifically not trying to kill Naruto?
Like Fight deductions like this. It feels like an ESPN breakdown.
Right?
Really cool video! I hope you do more fight breakdowns like this!
My man ✊🏻🔥
Perfect way to start the weekend. Thank you dude!
I really love this Naruto VOD review type of content lmao Sasuke vs Deidara would be sick to analyze I think
Sasuke actually won this fight if you pretend that he won.
Youll notice when sasuke wins its always when he tries hard and actually uses his head but when he loses its just always when hes angry and just rushing the fight not thinking just full bloodlusted
he was thinking clearly and planning/coordinating with his squad against bee and still lost so idk about that
It's also when he has an actual advantage in every way against his opponent. Looking at you Deidara.
@@MasquedMocha he wasnt really he had 1 good moment when he thought about the “linear movement” everything else he was just pissed
things i never thought about till this video:
1) bee being possibly fatigued from training before this
2) bee blocking the amaterasu
good stuff!
Glad you enjoyed! ✊🏻🔥
B was flexing yes, but it was from lack of intel as well. B would not go into his perfect form if he knew he was going to get burned alive
Good video. Now, it would make my day if you made one talking about Sasuke vs Ay and setting the fanboys straight on how that fight actually went. Far too many people mistakenly believe that it was a 10-0 matchup in Sasuke's favour when it was in fact far more even and would even lean in Ay's favor had he not been so bloodlustedly reckless.
i think the anime showing Bee manhandling Sasuke with his 7 Sword Style is cool and based. it makes sense too. not only did Bee just disrespect him by writing rap lyrics after the fight began, he could actually back up this attitude. it's like when an Elite Smash player uses their main, and after first KO they taunt the opposing player.
I enjoyed this video. You are seriously underrated. Please could you do a video explaining Ays battle Vs sasuke.
My man appreciate it ✊🏻🔥
For anyone saying "Sasuke would have won with that genjutsu if B didn't have a way out": Sasuke would have died long before that if he didn't have a team selected to act like Estus flasks to keep him alive vs Soulsborne bosses like B.
Nobody is saying that lmao
Very good video, it's nice to see killer Bee due to how he is slept on in community, it's very nice idea for the series as many fights in Naruto are misinterpreted and people miss a lot of context which leads to scaling inconsistencies which normally wouldnt exist.
Btw. Where is your strongest kunoichi video? I wanted to rewatch it but it was nowhere to be found
My man ✊🏻🔥 I want to redo that video and was I really unsatisfied with the previous one
@@ThunderGodTG Ooo, i'll be waiting, i Hope its gonna be fire!
Please do more videos like this. Make it a series 🙌🏾
I personally think Nagato vs Itachi, Killer Bee, and Naruto is one of the most misread fights. You should cover it one of these days
I’m not even gonna lie I barely even remember that fight
It really was mainly because Nagato wasn’t even in control of himself during that fight. I feel like that fight would’ve went extremely different had he been in control of himself instead of Kabuto.
The biggest misconception about that fight is people now think itachi is as fast as naruto and the rakaige
@ayoflip6199 I actually always point out how Kabuto isn't even in his Sage Mode when he's controlling Nagato, then add to the fact that Itachi actively uses Kabuto's goal tracked mind to fight him. When Itachi is fighting with Sasuke, Kabuto ignores Itachi to get his goal, and Itachi explicitly states he knows that Kabuto does this and plans around this. This is exactly what Itachi does against Base Kabuto controlled Nagato. This is also shown by the fact that Kabuto never directly attacks Itachi and only does when he's also attacking Killer Bee and Naruto. Then we also have to notice Itachi never directly confronts Nagato until he's distracted or blinded by Itachis' antics.
@@Bgfire1000 he is tho 5k summit Sasuke shows comparable speeds to them, and the Itachi was known to be faster/fast as Sasuke. And if it wasn’t physical speed, he definitely has mental speed He made up a timeline for his girlfriend of living a happy life together for 80 years.
i had no idea the anime changes so much from the manga here. also the mistranslation part is huge, coz even tho i still think hes referring to minato at least hes not saying that weak ver of sasuke is stronger than jonin minato who with his one shot chapter scaling is insane even back then
As a person who plays a lot of competitive fighting games, I love the thumbnail. Sasuke going +20 on a mid is crazy lol 😂
I’m glad someone got that 😂 that’s what I was trying to gonfor
3:11 "He didn't really" he just folded Jugo and got kicked in the chest by Sasuke, Bro can't admit that sasuke and his team got clapped by a dude writing bars mid fight.
Like I didn’t clown bro 3 seconds later stop it
They called me crazy. They called me a mad man. Said i "failed to understand the narrative kishimoto intended." Taka wouldve had sasuke merch if they let him go alone.
"I provide the sauce and you dip it" 🗿
No one mentions Bee has the lighting pencil which is huge because Sasuke reacts AFTER Bee has already brought up his notebook and written a line
Sasuke fanboys don’t wanna accept that he was a whole tier below Bee in this fight.
Who tf is arguing against that?
Bee uses that a last resort sort off of guard move in character he leads with his swords first, obviously swords > pencil while both are amped. It also just shows how much more serious he was taking the Kisame fight.
@@ThunderGodTG that’s the thing. When Bee used it against Kisame he sacrificed accuracy for speed because if the speed wasn’t high enough than Kisame could have easily reacted. I think in a controlled environment Bee is more accurate with it.
I'm saying there is no reason he would actually use it over his sword first realistically, the Kisame it was more relevant since he had it out & also used it when he was out of weapons but, 9/10 times bro is not using that , nor is Sasuke getting negged by a lightning pencil.
What if Hebi Sasuke, the one that fought Deidara (both wings, Manda, Orochimaru's substitution, the hydra), fought Bee instead? 1 VS 1. I guess Bee still wins, but it would make for an interesting fight, in my opinion!
He does better early to mid fight - loses end fight
@ThunderGodTG do you think Sasuke would be able to force Bee to use the full 8-tails or version 2 8-tails?
Hebi Sasuke is not stronger than Taka Sasuke. They are equal.
Very good analysis! Really hope my boy Kisame gets the same treatment someday. I feel like there are a lot of misconceptions about him, because he was so buffed against Killer B and very nerfed against Guy
Kakuzu beats Kisame every time. Let me know if you want to understand why
@@NtimidationI want to hear why, I think they are even
He was at his best against Guy
Kisame was a perfect matchup againts B and is a terrible matchup againts guy. Guy is all taijutsu and doesnt have much chakra to give away, while killer B is a chakra goldmine.
@@Ntimidation yeh can i hear it?
Sasuke: *Gets shit on several times*
Thunder: Oh, it’s just his mistakes due to lack of info
Bee: *Clearly has no idea about black flames and assumes his strongest form to finish off the enemy*
Thunder: See that? He got cocky
First of all this is a goofy comment you def gotta realize second of course he got shit on he’s out stated that’s so obvious and I established that so early on, his mistakes were more logical while being out stated (obviously which I mention) while Bee’s were of a character flaw, as he assumed a form completely unnecessarily, could have won EASILY in V1. I also open multiple interpretations like Bee being fatigued, joking around/not taking Taka seriously, etc. So you clearly just listened to half the video.
Don’t act weird when I legit made it clear Sasuke wasn’t on Bee’s level. Do dudes just want to hear Sasuke gets shit every 5 minutes which I established very early with base Bee instead of actually analyzing the fight? Insanely goofy response let go of the Bias I promise it won’t hurt saying both combatants fucked up for different reasons with Bee just being stronger by a lot throughout. Just like Bee didn’t know about Amaterasu Sasuke didn’t know about Bee’s abilities. Does it change anything even he does? Like I said NO he still loses hard but, I did want to discuss how this impacts both characters and offers nuance to the fight.
But nah you’re right let’s stay on bullshit and just talk about characters getting slammed instead of actually analyzing.
@@ThunderGodTGthe whole explanation is obviously right but the salt at the name was 🤨
Mans calling me by my first name he ain’t even know me like that
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Another reason hebi is stronger than pre summit taka, is he didn't have orochimaru. Way less chakra. No orochimaru style substitution.
I wouldn’t say way less since it’s more so noted to be a regen/stamina boost + Sasuke actually didn’t plan to absorb Oro while still prepping to fight Itachi meaning it couldn’t have been FAR beyond his actual strength. The Oro substitution is clutch af tho I agree it’s nutty
So I think that Sasuke should get blamed for not getting enough information before the fight. He was cocky and thought his team could fight B without ANY information or scouting. Karen is literally one of the best sensory ninja in the manga at the time and they still didn’t even bother to spend like a day to scout him out or see how strong he is.
Period
You not lying
4:44 Said it once. I'll say it again. He used Lightning Release. Against a Hidden Cloud Shinobi.
Not his best work
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Oh nvm...
Nah Taka Sasuke actually does do crazy well especially when you consider everything
My favourite team
“Bee absolutely ragdolls.” “He’s hitting combos.” 😂😂 Reading this comment and then watching the video had me rolling.
8:27 sasuke does use his hand in the anime too, if you pause you can see his arm outstretched towards bees head.
He does not touch Bee in the anime, since in the manga he kicks himself off Bee’s head the anime is just a little harder to judge he does not touch bro.
@@ThunderGodTG you might be right it's hard to judge but I pause when I was watching and you see a limb touching bees head
@@ThunderGodTGlooking again I think I could be the foot from the next frame actually
It’s just a bunch of afterimages, Sasuke is just doing flips, the manga he literally uses Bee’s head as a launching point which the anime would have made clear.
sasuke just needee some myoboku toad oil
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I’m glad you hopped on this topic, you are the most logical Naruto UA-camr.
He is definitely one of my favs
Him and six
Honestly 1 of the best out right now, & prob my current fave all his topics are 🔥🔥 and his logic and reasoning are always sound
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W video, can you do this same style video with orochimaru vs 3rd hokage fight?
One of my favorite fights all time
Sasuke fanboys want to erase this fight so badly
Ong
Nah just run it back with him wanting to kill bee instead
I’m a Sasuke fan and I love this fight
I actually love this fight. Just tired of sasuke haters finding any and every reason to discredit sasuke. The sasuke hate is actually pretty crazy.
@@AndreJones-wh2pcThe Sasuke wank is crazy man can’t even take an L and his fans go crazy.More of them need honor like Vegeta fan boys.
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bee casually using sasuke and his team as training dummies
sasuke fanboys: seems like a pretty even fight to me
You come across as someone who doesn't read for personal enjoyment, just want to talk shit and get attention, unstandable you hold this as one of Sasukes biggest fails, this fight was the same concept as minato becoming nerfed mid war arc, not because he lacks the power but simply because he doesn't view the fight as how it should have been. kishimoto cooks, y'all microwave.
I actually don’t know why dudes turn into a Sasuke hate kinda thing like it’s pretty clear he just lost the fight albeit in a bit of a nerfed position. Dudes are acting like Bee wouldn’t smoke literally 98% of characters introduced at that point
@@ThunderGodTGnah no sasuke hate he’s in my top 3 and i love this fight for him even nerfed he still held up against a beast like bee i just like stirring the pot early in the morning what can i say 😆
@@PuffPuffPass123 you actually took the joke seriously? if hes microwaving then u must be in the fucking freezer
@@sinoxilurk4126no really tho lil bro was pressed for nothing he need a nap fr
jokes on you
I didn't read anything wrong because I can't read
So Sasuke kept up with base bee in taijutsu but was just suprised by the 8 sword style, and also had no way to actually damage a tank like Bee, so honestly fullpower sasuke vs base bee actually isn't a crazy big difference, but it's still a gap, nvm bijuu cloak
Good analysis overall lot of your videos i dont agree with but this is one of them that is 100% spot on in my opinion
Hell yeah I love fights analysis videos, madara vs 5 kage would be a cool video too
Honestly this video just goes over slight intricacies through the fight. The dodging version 1 from Sasuke I think happened the same both ways in the adaptation and manga.
Onto the statements from Bee and the Amaterasu feat. One could also say his tentacles happened to be in front of him when Amaterasu hit, since they were everywhere and his opponent was in front of him. I also HIGHLY doubt Bee was able to be fast enough to block Amaterasu, considering its never been stated for him to be that fast. If he were, I imagine it'd be stated somewhere since it'd be a big deal. It's also important to note that A had 16 years to get stronger than Minato and while Bee didn't exactly fight blow for blow, they did have an encounter where Bee saw his skills.
Opponents can sense the buildup of chakra this happens all the time Base Naruto in the Final Valley blocks it with an equally stronger Sasuke. The Raikage Aim Dodges it who’s supposed to be a Rival to the 8 tails.
I also addressed the tentacle thing in the vid and show the panel right before they’re all behind Bee.
The Sasuke anime manga feat is different he never even touches Bee’s head in the anime.
@@ThunderGodTG @ThunderGodTG Well he never was stated to have or be able to do that. Everyone usually knew it was coming from the eye change and the blood. You can sense it and with a sharingan you can see it but sense it, it's debatable with Bee. If he did sense it, I believe it'd be shown. He might've also known what Amaterasu was.
Again I still don't think he was blocking it. I mean he was on fire, he might've moved it to hit the flames and try to get them out. That aside, again, I don't think he's on par with A's speed. The Raikage who WAS on par with the 8 tails was the 3rd Raikage and they killed each other nearly. Maybe they were rivals but I just don't think Bee is fast enough
@@ThunderGodTG also yeah but even though it was linear it was still fast as heck. maybe he did aim dodge it but to even dodge it at all is a crazy feat.
I’m trying to help you out bro he reacted straight up I’m filling in the blanks for you.
Reread the chapter my man it’s 411-412 the tails are behind him they move in front.
The Third Raikage is also is not a good metric idk why we’d compare Bee as a Jin to a Raikage who tied with just the 8 Tails.
I don’t disagree
Sasuke got slammed, slightly less hard than you realized.
Essentially
Lmfao dawg if sasuke didn’t have support he died 10 times it’s normal comprehension
And "dawg" if Sasuke came in with intent to kill using Ms he'd have won, Sasukes trying to subdue.. not to hard to comprehend.. also statements of weaker characters like suigetsu stating to not hold back doesn't equate to Sasuke going all out, and manga fight isn't even that one sided
@@PuffPuffPass123crazy copium
@joshr9812 But suigetsu said they should go for the intent to kill while they are mid fight implying they were not going all out at the start even tho it wouldn't matter
@@PuffPuffPass123sasuke fanboy coping moment 😂
Why are you so low in subs? You're better than your peers. At the very least, you are the most entertaining.
Lol these comments tho. Yall act like bee was some kinda pushover or fodder. Nobody brings up ohnoki and muu 2 kage level fighters got slapped by madara. Its not weak to loose to the strong
I’m sayin
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@@ThunderGodTG Anytime
Nah the animators got on their Tobirama timing when they made this fight
Bro the naruto /uchiha bias is so annoying. Sasuke walked up. Talked smack then got smacked up
Homie said Bee folded him thrice over. What exactly are you looking for here?
Basically the equivalent of a kage a regular jonin. Two low jonin and a high level medical chunin
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Killer Bee really flexed to hard but remembered he was ready to vacay away from A.
Awesome video man
7:23 killa bee be getting that lightning style iron claw
While we on the topic can you do bee vs Kisame? He one of my fav characters and I swear he ain’t that weak
love this fight and this video explains more about it thanks
Need a video explaining everything we know about the Land of Snow. Man I just rewatched the movie and the Ice Style moves from those guys were Liiit, plus their Chakra Enhancing suits were hype
Like this style of video. Gaara vs Deidara and Kakashi vs latching would make for good videos in this segment
How am I just seeing this channel?? Nice
Bee "lost" cuz he gloated, he could've easily wiped em all out if he fought them seriously.
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Was talking about the Suigetsu feats with Hobby Horse. Honestly MOST underrated part of the fight, Bee began taking it seriously, and couldn't put Suigetsu down immediately! That's HUGE.
Suigetsu is underrated bro
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People seem to realize sasuke wasnt exactly in peak condition after his fight with itachi
If sasuke fans could go back in time they’d probably go stop kishimoto from writing this fight instead of killing Hitler.
This is one of the best Naruto fight I’m a Sasuke fan and it’s phenomenal on all accounts
Nah, it's just the deluded Narutards who think so. Sasuke and his team won the fight but lost the objective and that's all there is to it. If anything it showcases how strong and tactical Sasuke actually is. Can't help it when you all are so deep down into your delusions.
Wait what makes you think Bee cut the tentacle off himself in the infinite tsukoyomi scene? Could it not have been Gyuuki or a combo of the 2?
Probably Gyuuki but, you could just Gyuuki also learned or it was a mix, since he apologizes to bee while doing it you can say he forces it.
yea makes sense, I doubt B would seperate himself from Gyuki in the same way Naruto wouldn't from Kurama, they had a friendship. Kurama made a hard call knowing Naruto wouldn't agree and seperated himself (which btw is kinda crazy he can just do that in the first place loool) @@ThunderGodTG
Any fight where sasuke is getting his ass kicked is my favorite fight
Sasuke got violated
TG I need your thought...Question regarding Blue B/Fukai:
How old was he?
Its stated the blue b died with 22.
If killer B became jinchuriki with 5/6 years old, as he became Jinchuriki of the 8t right after Blue B died, that makes him 16-17 years older
than Killer B...and about 6-7 years older than A
(4th Raikage)...
...so Blue B would be about 52-53 in Part 2???
Its also stated Furui (Motoi's father) died
with 32, 30 years prior to the war. That was due to the rampage of Gyuki when Blue B was his Jinchuriki. This makes
sense timewise as Killer B would have been 5 or 6 at
that time.
Lack of information about a opponent doesn’t take sasuke off the hook like I can’t remember who said it but they said “ it’s not like your opponent is just going to scream out their special abilities before you start a battle “ itachi sends out clones in a fight to find out others abilities: Minato had a full blown discussion with himself about obito powers and analyzing them 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
I don't disagree
Nice vid bro
18:00 . the bit about bee not considering the fight between bee and minato as an actual fight is kinda head canon. The scene shows both bee and ay attacking and being attacked by minato. That is a fight. so I'd say bees statement about sasuke being the second strongest is valid so sasuke > jonin minato. Also explains why theres a big deal made about the evolution of shinobi.
You can def say whatever the reason I lean towards it excluding minato is due to the statements correlating and sharing similarities in both fights. Being comparable to the Raikage is also mark for Shinobi evolution since he’s insane, so it’s more so just drawing a narrative based on established evidence rather than head cannon but that’s just me say whatever
“I provided the sauce, you dip it!”
I think you on to something.
In terms of the flip to dodge, the anime and the manga are actually the same as theres an onomatopoeia/sound indicator and a visual indicator of bees head also being tapped in the manga as well imo
In the anime there is no extra sound nor is there any motion/showing of Bee’s head getting tapped. In the manga it’s literally a launchpad whereas the anime that’s just no the case.
Sasuke’s performance in this fight is embarrassing, but also no one in Naruto at this point is ready for the power of a perfect jinchuriki. When you remember that Pain struggled with feral naruto, there’s a good chance even he would have lost vs B.
The way I see the Chidori feat is that (in the Anime) Sasuke is tagging Bee with the palm of his hand, coursing Chidori through Bee as an electric attack, not with a piercing attack that he is shown using for example when he stabs Ay in the Summit using his pointed hand as normal.
I believe Sasuke was going for a stun, similar to when he channeled Raiton into Yamato, rather than a full on Chidori stab. There's no character in the series whose base skin and muscles are just strong enough to catch Chidori. That's just not how it works. They're still *people*. Swords and knives and daggers don't just bounce off of strong people because they're strong.
……kakashi and Itachi did it……..
@@cunningfox7838No they did not stop weapons from piercing their skin by being too strong.
@@Necromancer4267 sorry I thought you were talking about a different chidori moment. But Chidori can be grabbed. That’s what I meant. Are you talking about when they three on one Bee? To your point, did anyone ever think that Bee was hit with a direct Chidori? I think we all thought it was a stun.
@@cunningfox7838TG thinks he was hit with a direct, piercing Chidori... in this video...
@@Necromancer4267 hold up here, Sasuke has different levels to his piercing Chidori depending on the circumstances. Killerbee is durable just like when Naruto didn’t quite get obliterated the same way Haku did after getting a lightning blade to the chest, the former merely using a hand to nullify most of what was supposed to be a pierce ( more in the anime) Sasuke is capable of piercing, but he had no wind up distance, ( thats when it’s at its strongest) and Bee of the eight tails absolutely can tank a wounded sasuke‘s BEST attempt at a stationary jab. Just like 12 year old Naruto did( stun feature is always active, it’s lightning no matter what ) It’s still impressive, and was meant to do more than paralyze Bee for a couple seconds.
Great video
My man
Killer Bee: Stand proud, you were strong
Three people attack, then after Sasuke lands a blow (no damage) he takes out his notebook and writes some bars. "BUT it's not mid fight" ..... make it make sense
The point I was trying to make was that it wasn’t as if he was gonna do that while Sasuke had his sharingan or MS out, Taka just lined up gaunlet style for him. It was disrespectful af don’t get me wrong but, it just isn’t really that crazy since Sasuke himself isn’t all out.
Okay I feel that. You've earned a sub from me for this video for sure, but I'm like how you gonna say that wasn't mid fight? But your explanation makes me feel like I know where you're coming from bro.
Appreciate it yeah just like wording on my end, like it’s technically mid fight but dudes be overblowing it imo and making it seem like Bee could have wrote bars at any time
Solid breakdown!
Nah Itachi was like “Dam, I knew going after Naruto was better idea 😂”
Obito at least could have told sauske that genjutsu wouldnt work...or that bee was a madterclass swordsman.....or that he could fully manifest the 8 tails....or literally anything at all
I like how no one brings up his exp with a fresh M.S.
Also sasuke had the harder competition of fights in his story
I wonder if Sasuke still had his Curse Mark along with MS how well would he have faired?
Sasuke Touch bee in the Manga too it's the "TWP" sound and they show the effect on the manga panel
I think of this fight as a showing of why the MS is so strong. Sasuke starts the fight as weaker than his hebi version but he finishes as much stronger.
Bee bodied them though
So basically what i thought from when i first saw this fight all those years ago. B was clapping
If this was DBZ Sasuke would’ve received a crazy zenkai boost from all the near death experiences he’s been through bro got to have PTSD 😂
624 To be fair here Sasuke probably did not intend to murder Bee there as he had options to just stab him in the head or use Chidori spear
good video🎉
Thank you sir ✊🏻
Definitely need sasuke v deidara analysis