WHAT IF | Each Hokage Fought Obito in Konan’s Position?

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    Intro 0:00
    How Strong is Obito? 0:18
    vs Tsunade/Hiruzen 13:02
    vs Minato 21:16
    vs Danzo 28:21
    vs Tobirama 32:11
    vs Hashirama 38:53
    vs Kakashi 39:21
    vs Shikimaru 40:40
    #naruto #anime

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  • @ThunderGodTG
    @ThunderGodTG  Місяць тому +31

    Three Notes I wanted to throw in but, didn’t end up including.
    A)The Kakashi Novel point is actually referencing him thrusting his Kunai not throwing it which bolsters the presented argument.
    B) I did not think of this but, Tobirama using Tandem could potentially set off the paper bombs hidden away in the water which is funny af.
    C) Shikimaru probably doesn’t cap out at Tree level ironically and can still pull a W due to having feats such as reacting to Delta’s Kicks, Being in the Battle vs Code, etc. with other techniques like his shadow piercing or just paper bombing Obito. I literally just went into depth about him in the other two vids and didn’t feel as obliged to here as I also had a video on Shikimaru stopping the Nine Tails attack which is 15 minutes on this matchup, so I’d reccomend that if you want a more interesting discussion. You can also argue Shikimaru during his novel is in a perpetual mental debuff adding to the Tree Feat being non idicative.

    • @arsenewenger4847
      @arsenewenger4847 Місяць тому +1

      Dude don’t be gaslit into believing Shikamaru can deal with Orange Mask Obito 😂
      They are in completely different tiers of strength.

    • @spartagaming6210
      @spartagaming6210 Місяць тому +1

      Quick question, just want to be clear do u think minato clears or no? Obito is marked as well and he's not aware of it bcx he was able to surprise rinnegan obito and states that the mark never disappears and he never taught him that

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Місяць тому +1

      @@spartagaming6210 Minato clears

    • @jason-vv6kv
      @jason-vv6kv Місяць тому +1

      I wonder if Izuna was only equals to Madara in their base sharingan and Mangekyo states but after EMS, Madara shot up to a whole different level.

    • @___________0Z0X
      @___________0Z0X Місяць тому +1

      Nah, Shikamaru’s tree level.

  • @RestlessGamblrr
    @RestlessGamblrr Місяць тому +183

    bro has INFINITE ideas

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Місяць тому +34

      😂😭 ong we def gotta cook on something soon too bro

    • @SunnyGoat-ut5qw
      @SunnyGoat-ut5qw Місяць тому +7

      ​@@ThunderGodTGCan you do what ifs more like story based, like for example what if Minato survived, what if Hashirama lost to Madara, what if Madara didn't get back stabbed by zetsu

    • @nwk1626
      @nwk1626 Місяць тому

      ive been in this community for 3 years let me tell you one lil secret
      TG gets his ideas from NWK and there’s mfs like you to police it

    • @Couldnt_think_of_anything
      @Couldnt_think_of_anything Місяць тому

      @@ThunderGodTGyou should do thunder bark again

    • @MrPapernumberDGG
      @MrPapernumberDGG Місяць тому +1

      @@SunnyGoat-ut5qwI also want more Naruto what ifs

  • @AhmedHussain-ju6xd
    @AhmedHussain-ju6xd Місяць тому +45

    Minato: *sees "madara" again*
    "HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON OLD MAN"

  • @ianformica7911
    @ianformica7911 Місяць тому +15

    I still remember when you were on tiktok debating about naruto, now youre here making videos featuring six and swag on your own yt channel

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Місяць тому +7

      MY FUCKING GOAT nah that’s a day 1, anyone who was around during that era is just straight up family 🔥✊🏻

  • @isaacssjblue8403
    @isaacssjblue8403 Місяць тому +50

    Ngl that red rinnegan on sasuke looks badass but I’d still prefer the original purple color

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Місяць тому +17

      Nah it looks crazy sick I agree, and yeah the Red / Purple combo is just “chefs kiss”

  • @Reggie2kj
    @Reggie2kj Місяць тому +15

    Wait….so
    I get unlimited prep time AND I get To kill a UCHIHA!????
    -Tobirama said grinning ear to ear

  • @Necromancer4267
    @Necromancer4267 Місяць тому +40

    I'll repost this in every Konan discussion.
    Konan is slept on as fuck. At 35 years old, and assuming she prepped for the Obito fight since the day of her birth, she canonically creates over 32,595 paper bombs per minute, or more than 543 per SECOND, assuming she started AT BIRTH, which is obviously not when she started. Assuming she started the day she met Madara, then she's able to create roughly 76,061 Paper Bombs per minute, or 1267 per second. Konan might very well be top 3 in the Akatsuki discounting plot.

    • @The__Deadman
      @The__Deadman Місяць тому +8

      Impressive but Nah. Kisame violates. Deidara wins too. If we count Orochimaru, she gets destroyed by him too. She's top 6 or 5 max imo.

    • @Necromancer4267
      @Necromancer4267 Місяць тому +2

      @@The__Deadman Uh no, Kisame, Deidara, and Orochimaru have literally nothing to combat 1200 paper bombs per second.

    • @The__Deadman
      @The__Deadman Місяць тому +2

      @@Necromancer4267 "1200 bombs per second" idc what kind of headcanon fighting style you made up for Konan with some calculations, but she never summoned 1300 bombs on someone or something lol. She tried to overwhelm Jiraiya with papers and got negged by base Jiraiya. Her feats except that 1 huge prep feat against Obito is nothing compared to Kisame and Orochimaru. Thinking that they can't beat Konan is crazy. Deidara blows her up too.

    • @xrim1139
      @xrim1139 Місяць тому

      @@Necromancer4267 Deidara goes in the sky and c3s him

    • @cryptedz7664
      @cryptedz7664 Місяць тому +1

      ​@Necromancer4267 what are you smoking. If 1200 paper bombs matter those level every village wouldn't struggle against bijuu but they do. You trying to say any village doesn't have 10k paper bombs in their arsenal. You're wrong

  • @elcrakcultraporxchara3260
    @elcrakcultraporxchara3260 Місяць тому +32

    Could you do a "what version of naruto could beat each/duo akatsuki"? Like your hokages video.

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Місяць тому +24

      That’s actually mad interesting I’m gonna throw that on the list

    • @kodoqbesar4301
      @kodoqbesar4301 Місяць тому +6

      My guess is like this
      Hidan and Kakuzu: Sage Mode Naruto
      Deidara and Sasori: 6 Tails Naruto
      Itachi and Kisame: KCM1 Naruto (Itachi here is not Edo)
      Pain and Konan: KCM1 Naruto

    • @elcrakcultraporxchara3260
      @elcrakcultraporxchara3260 Місяць тому +1

      @@kodoqbesar4301 sage mode Naruto for Hidan and kakuzu may be a little too much. Even if they seem strong with their protagonism in the arc and fighting kakashi they're pretty much bottom of the akatsuki, the Naruto who just learned rasenshuriken/is searching for Sasuke during his fight with Itachi would be enough.

    • @GeneFOX70
      @GeneFOX70 29 днів тому

      ​@@kodoqbesar43016 Tails Naruto destroyed Pain.

  • @kodoqbesar4301
    @kodoqbesar4301 Місяць тому +20

    I lowkey wanna see a video about the Akatsuki Civil War, where Obito tell his Eye of the Moon plan to every members of the Akatsuki. Some support his plan, some oppose his plan

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Місяць тому +8

      I believe New Horizons did a vid on that

    • @kodoqbesar4301
      @kodoqbesar4301 Місяць тому +5

      @@ThunderGodTG
      Oh yeah you're right thank you it's been quite a while since I watched New Horizons

    • @nwk1626
      @nwk1626 Місяць тому

      swag did the naruto and sasuke swapping fights BEFORE TG and tg stole his idea sooo his copyright plagiaristic thief-like self should be okay with doing that 👍

    • @crazygrape0522
      @crazygrape0522 Місяць тому +1

      I can't tell if you're trolling or being serious 😅😅

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Місяць тому +7

      He’s trolling lmao Swag didn’t do that vid, Seth did and he directly credited my first iteration of that vid

  • @theoctopus5308
    @theoctopus5308 Місяць тому +6

    30:14 XD god that killed me! But fir real, I have always assumed that Isobu never broke Yagura out because he hates Yagura that much, so you also saying that feels dope as hell

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Місяць тому +2

      Bro HAD to be upset at this mist ain’t no other way

  • @GhasTown
    @GhasTown Місяць тому +12

    Thank you for the Tobirama JUSTICE 😂! I don't understand why people think Obito is weaker. Homie has had 16 years to naturally grow. His physical and spiritual energy even if he didn't train would just grow making him stronger with more chakra. But fire ass video! Missed you man 😭

  • @Necromancer4267
    @Necromancer4267 Місяць тому +15

    Worth noting that Minato himself believed that the fight would be over if Obito landed the first hit on him, and this was stated after experiencing the Kamui warp, so it's likely that Minato understood enough what Obito was trying to do to him and still believed that if he was warped he would lose outright, meaning that FTG wouldn't allow him to escape.

    • @Reggie2kj
      @Reggie2kj Місяць тому +11

      He prob only thought that because he’d never been Kamui’d before….
      I hate to bring it up but Boruto confirms FTG would’ve got him out

    • @poodie3887
      @poodie3887 Місяць тому +7

      @@Reggie2kjnope, kamui is a sealed dimension, those other dimensions aren’t

    • @Necromancer4267
      @Necromancer4267 Місяць тому +4

      @@Reggie2kj He knew it was ST ninjutsu better than FTG. There's literally nothing left to get. Minato knew exactly what it did and knew he would lose to it. Period.
      Boruto isn't canon.

    • @georgemccall-zz4pd
      @georgemccall-zz4pd Місяць тому +4

      @@Necromancer42671. ftg gets u out
      2. boruto is canon lol “period.”

    • @Necromancer4267
      @Necromancer4267 Місяць тому +2

      @@georgemccall-zz4pdIf only your opinion mattered to fact. I might be worried.

  • @hobbyhorse5848
    @hobbyhorse5848 Місяць тому +12

    New idea: What if each Hokage had to talk no jutsu Nagato, how many of them fumble the bag

    • @jwall1646
      @jwall1646 Місяць тому +1

      Hashi yes, Kakashi maybe, the rest fail hard.

    • @MZOver
      @MZOver Місяць тому

      Kakashi is probably the only one ngl

    • @_-Bane-_Main
      @_-Bane-_Main Місяць тому +1

      Hiruzen gets a negative 10/10 here

    • @spit-fire
      @spit-fire Місяць тому +5

      Tobirama starts flexing, “bring back my village or else I’ll bring back yours.”

    • @gangweedpilled4977
      @gangweedpilled4977 Місяць тому

      @@spit-firetobirama gets low diffd by nagato

  • @kongchengthao9764
    @kongchengthao9764 Місяць тому +3

    Love the vids bro keep it coming 😮‍💨🙏

  • @williammoore1050
    @williammoore1050 Місяць тому +5

    Was lowkey waiting for u to post 😂

  • @supremelore_1533
    @supremelore_1533 29 днів тому

    Awesome video as always ThunderGod!

  • @DarkWorldxo
    @DarkWorldxo Місяць тому +2

    Great Video 🙌

  • @drowning.macaco
    @drowning.macaco Місяць тому +4

    One thing to note for tobirama’s ap is that edo madara took a massive rasenshuriken to the face and it failed to take hin down but then, with an alive body sage mode and rinnegan he still went out of his way to dodge tobirama’s hiraishin giri, madara the guy that rakes attacks to the chin to flex the on the opp

    • @sladehatake5692
      @sladehatake5692 Місяць тому

      It was an edo tho…

    • @drowning.macaco
      @drowning.macaco Місяць тому

      @@sladehatake5692 hashirama states the jutsu failed to take him down, obviusly any jutsu would fail to take down an edo wich means madara just tanked it

  • @justinarzola4584
    @justinarzola4584 Місяць тому +2

    Fire vid 🔥🔥.

  • @danielandrews425
    @danielandrews425 Місяць тому +8

    Obito's genjutsu is soo good it took away TG's speach at 30 mins in💀

  • @Friendly_G
    @Friendly_G Місяць тому +2

    TG IS BACK LETS GOOO

  • @whoizray_
    @whoizray_ Місяць тому +3

    was not expecting this great way to end the night

  • @Scarface1121
    @Scarface1121 Місяць тому +4

    Another banger from tg when I thought my day couldn't get any better smh

  • @caleb3639
    @caleb3639 Місяць тому +1

    TG just got so many good video ideas

  • @___________0Z0X
    @___________0Z0X Місяць тому +2

    Man TG, how do you keep coming up with these cool ideas?

  • @thegrandyata
    @thegrandyata Місяць тому +2

    I always leave a TG video with something I never thought about before. Never thought of Isobu not wanting to break Yagura out before.

  • @4thQuarter.Z
    @4thQuarter.Z Місяць тому +2

    He just DOES NOT STOP cooking🧑🏾‍🍳 🗣️

  • @BattleRapperDay
    @BattleRapperDay Місяць тому +2

    The goat does not sleap!

  • @ngosongjr1908
    @ngosongjr1908 Місяць тому +3

    Obito as a kid could react to Minato with insane Regen plus his base Sharingan is insane and your assumption all Sharingan abilities won't work

  • @Necromancer4267
    @Necromancer4267 Місяць тому +4

    I fully believe that Tobi's reveal as Obito was not fully planned (or at least multiple seeds were planted and one wasn't fully selected) until nearer to the reveal, and that because of this, Obito's arm vs. Minato is a mistake, but only a retroactive mistake, not a mistake that Kishimoto made out of forgetfulness, but out of lack of complete planning at the time.

    • @jasonmoukala8909
      @jasonmoukala8909 Місяць тому

      What mistake do you mean

    • @Necromancer4267
      @Necromancer4267 Місяць тому +1

      @@jasonmoukala8909 The wrong arm gooping off, as TG referenced. Obito's right arm is the Zetsu arm, but against Minato his left arm leaked Zetsu material and fell off.

    • @chrissyakaweeb5617
      @chrissyakaweeb5617 20 днів тому

      It was planned, the whole reason his mask is like how it is, is because the creator didn’t want to reveal who is was yet. He knew Obito was Tobi apparently since the beginning

    • @Necromancer4267
      @Necromancer4267 20 днів тому +1

      @@chrissyakaweeb5617 Putting a character in a mask doesn't in any way indicate you know who you plan for them to be 500 chapters later.

  • @acualancer4619
    @acualancer4619 Місяць тому +1

    I really like hearing people talk good about Konan

  • @JTgotbars
    @JTgotbars Місяць тому +1

    luh u bro

  • @kleatise52
    @kleatise52 Місяць тому +5

    Excellent interpretations. Many people don’t understand that obito wasn’t gonna just go 1v1the village after minato died like he’s pain. It was important to him to gain more experience and Allies and staying a phantom.

  • @koalteufel7947
    @koalteufel7947 Місяць тому +7

    3 Tails is NOT a perfect Jinchuriki, he has perfect control of the Biju, it makes total sense it wouldn't break him out of genjutsu.

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Місяць тому +1

      Agreed they def are on a transactional basis or he’s just forced the 3 tails into submission by taking chakra from it forcefully

  • @ahjuxue2121
    @ahjuxue2121 5 днів тому

    I love how detailed ya get into the what ifs, just to really lead to....IZANAGI BEATS ALL'EM LOL!

  • @imhawkz
    @imhawkz Місяць тому +2

    My dawg stay in the kitchen 🔥 and editing is straight gass too, did Danzo so dirty tho 28:18, but I agree wit everything. Run up that sage toad tho FR.

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Місяць тому +2

      THIS IS CRAZY 😭😂😂 I appreciate that a ton my man ✊🏻🔥 Toad Oil from TG inc coming soon

  • @antonioking4937
    @antonioking4937 29 днів тому

    Title alone told me this video was lit

  • @sageofthickcalves
    @sageofthickcalves 28 днів тому

    Worth noting that Hokage Kakashi’s omnidirectional shinden is arguably one of the best counters for Obito’s Kamui

  • @ErosThewitchboy
    @ErosThewitchboy Місяць тому +2

    Nice vid. I think Obito is not “just able to use wood style” as half of his body is made of Hashirama cells, or at least that’s what I gather

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Місяць тому +2

      Yeah he's more so able to use it post Hashirama Cell insertion obviously before that he can't

  • @Julio9j11j
    @Julio9j11j Місяць тому +2

    TG THE GAWD 🔥🔥🔥
    So here the Sauce🗿🗿🗿

  • @treeztop
    @treeztop Місяць тому

    kamui is insanely cracked & I love it

  • @lavaillanier571
    @lavaillanier571 Місяць тому

    This is so random but I’m here for it

  • @jwall1646
    @jwall1646 Місяць тому

    You ever consider doing a full video on if Kakashi was instated as Kage either during or after the 5Kage summit.

  • @ngosongjr1908
    @ngosongjr1908 Місяць тому +1

    Obito doesn't use his abilities and so he gets underestimated to think Minato will take him . Obito. Has insane Regen

  • @___________0Z0X
    @___________0Z0X Місяць тому

    I was not expecting to hear bullet station from sonic heroes. Great OST.

  • @jason-vv6kv
    @jason-vv6kv Місяць тому +1

    32:33
    "If we're generous" ???
    We saw Tobirama utilize a kunai with a FTG mark on it against Izuna. This is like FTG 2 decades before Minato was born. He already had it on hand apparently. WTH! And even if it wasn't, It doesn't take a second for something to be marked to be even considered a set back during combat in terms of prep time where a FTG seal is concerned. It's short of breathing . Y'all got this thing wrong. This Minato over Tobirama BS got y'all twisted.

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Місяць тому

      Ain’t NO WAY! Not like bro corrected that not even 10 seconds past the timestamp! Finish the vid before you comment shit like that. Nobody brought up Minato vs Tobirama either you just yapping.

  • @Melly_Wayy
    @Melly_Wayy Місяць тому +2

    I just hate how teleportation is considered speed in universe, hella nitpicky

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Місяць тому +2

      It's really weird cause Body Flicker & Other Techniques are also called the same thing which muddies the water further. Now we can find out which is which through looking at the Kanji but like why TF we gotta do all that lmao

  • @AtenSol12
    @AtenSol12 Місяць тому

    i think you should do a video akin to this but with either half kurama or full kurama. and make kurama run a guantlet of actually relevant characters in relation to it through the story.

  • @TheManOfBlues
    @TheManOfBlues 29 днів тому

    If Shikamaru had the same opportunity as Konan, I'd say he'd prepare for the fight just as well as her, if not better. Dude is like batman

  • @kelvinallen9327
    @kelvinallen9327 27 днів тому +2

    If obito is not blitzing hashirama, then he is not blitzing tobirama. 👍

  • @EternalWanderer657
    @EternalWanderer657 Місяць тому +2

    Obito could just use Izanagi and stab Hashirama from behind with black rods and restrict his movements, and absorb his chakra like Madara did in the war. Once those rods are in, he won't be able to move or manipulate his chakra anymore, and once that happens, Obito could practically place him under genjutsu and warp him into his time space.

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Місяць тому

      Hashirama required a BACK full of Rinnegan Rods to restrict his movements and even then he was still initiating Jutsu like the Wood Dragon and Deity Gates on Madara. This also assumes the rods Obito is using are the Rinnegan Rods.

    • @EternalWanderer657
      @EternalWanderer657 Місяць тому +2

      @ThunderGodTG Obito has demonstrated the ability to eject multiple black rods simultaneously he'd have no problem covering Hashirama's entire back with them and even if Hashirama were to initiate some jutsu before completely losing the ability to manipulate his chakra and his movements, none of his jutsus would even touch Obito. Obito would just slip right through it all and wait until the Black Rods took full effect and Obito's black rods are like those of Nagato and Madara's, it all comes from the Gedo Statue.

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Місяць тому

      The block rod didn't disrupt Konan's chakra in the slightest as she could even still knead chakra to stand on water, so it's def just some rod he has or was latched off somewhere. It's only presented he does any of that when he actually has the Rinnegan so I would not argue his rods are the same at all.

    • @EternalWanderer657
      @EternalWanderer657 Місяць тому +3

      @ThunderGodTG Obito stabbed Konan with a regular pipe, not a Black Rod, because the arm he uses to eject the Rods was blown off by her attack.
      Edited: Black Rods are shown sticking out of Obito's right half during Rins death, and he did not have a Rinnegan at that moment in time. The Black Rod is specifically a Gedo Statue ability not a Rinnegan ability and half of Obito's body comes from the Gedo Statue. Possessing the Rinnegan doesn't automatically give you Black Rods, Sasuke is a perfect example of that.

    • @postsniper-7532
      @postsniper-7532 Місяць тому

      lol hashrima no diffs obito

  • @vergilmustlive8066
    @vergilmustlive8066 Місяць тому +1

    THE MF DUDLEY THEME FOR THE INTRO!!👌👌🔥🔥 TG KNOWS A BOP WHEN HE HEARS IT!!😭

  • @Captaine_Crunche
    @Captaine_Crunche 5 днів тому

    Tobirama has a certain ftg ability that minato doesn’t have, honestly idk how it works but it’s flying raijin slice, we see him use it on izuna with his marked kunai, it allows him to teleport to one’s blind spot, but how did he teleport behind madara with it out of nowhere?

  • @spit-fire
    @spit-fire Місяць тому

    29:52 🤓my theory is: isobu is just a dumb baby at the time. It died with Rin then when it was revived, it’s like it starts from scratch as a baby again

  • @Lukeiano
    @Lukeiano Місяць тому

    W idea

  • @Shadowsmoke11
    @Shadowsmoke11 29 днів тому +2

    I believe in Lord Danzo! The Sixth Hokage!!

  • @louise.4748
    @louise.4748 22 дні тому

    Question: I really wonder, as the tailed beasts often have certain chakra natures and kekkei genkai, which does kurama have? I think I read on narutopedia or somethin that its wind and fire (probably reasoned as on the ninetails attack he boasts flame like bursts and during the pain fight vreates tornados...). Bro do you know maybe?

  • @Zerix51
    @Zerix51 Місяць тому

    30:11 bro gave himself the ick lmfaoo 💀

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Місяць тому

      Nah that shit was disgusting had to check that insatntly

  • @jakebailey5834
    @jakebailey5834 Місяць тому

    Can you do a Video on WHAT IF Each Uchiha in Obito's Position in The Nine Tails Attack?

  • @akasakasad6271
    @akasakasad6271 Місяць тому +1

    12:49 Chills

  • @kelvinallen9327
    @kelvinallen9327 27 днів тому +1

    That tobirama & Izuna fight happened long ago, they were younger. Tobirama has gotten stronger since then. 👍

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  27 днів тому

      Completely missed the point of that section

    • @kelvinallen9327
      @kelvinallen9327 27 днів тому

      @@ThunderGodTG No, no.
      I only said that for others. Because most people think Lord Second is still Izuna's level. No problems with ya
      Lord of Thunder, i always enjoy listening to ya. Keep it up. Be real. 👍👏

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  27 днів тому

      Ahh I see apologies 🙏🏻

  • @ibrahimismaeil8465
    @ibrahimismaeil8465 Місяць тому

    Please do a video about how each generation of kage do against madara PLEASEE OHH PLEASEE

  • @___________0Z0X
    @___________0Z0X Місяць тому

    So quick question about Conen guys, would you hit it? Even if it means you get paper cuts all over your junk?

  • @headcrap6152
    @headcrap6152 29 днів тому

    I think him losing his left arm against Minato is an animation mistake. Why? Because most of the time Obito gets damaged, it's always the white part of his body. In the fight with Minato, it even shows it melting while his back had zero scratches on it. He just jumps away even after being stabbed in the torso, which makes Obito's durability insane. Maybe he needs the white parts for something that we don't know about. Otherwise, he would just let it completely be the same color as his skin. Perhaps over time the Zetsu parts lose something when they turn to Obito's skin color.
    In conclusion, Obito needs the white Zetsu parts for something, but they seem to be less durable than his actual body. For more proof, this is not the only mistake the animation team has made, so yeah, it's totally possible. also When Obito was in the cave with Madara, the Zetsu parts of his body were very skinny and weak. But over time, they turned into the same shape as his left side. Maybe the Zetsu parts turn into what his original body was like over time, and he doesn't color them or something stupid like that. Obito completely covers his whole body anyway, so there is zero point in coloring it.

  • @brandonskates
    @brandonskates 17 днів тому

    Arm scaling go crazy

  • @kelvinallen9327
    @kelvinallen9327 Місяць тому +2

    Guy, kakashi, sakura, neji, etc all got stronger in the 2-3 year time skip. Obito should have gotten insanely stronger 16 long years after fighting minato.

    • @Archer170
      @Archer170 17 днів тому

      The fact he was close to Minato means he likely just coasted.Hes prob stronger from practicing his ability.But without stronger opponents he wouldnt get insanely stronger.

    • @kelvinallen9327
      @kelvinallen9327 17 днів тому

      @@Archer170 obito should have become the new peedster after minato died. It was 16 yrs, not 16 days.
      He had more potential than many others, he even activated MS young, had hashi cells, could control the ""weakest bijuu (kurama) ""??? 😂
      But he turned out to be a failure. I blame kishimooto writing 😞

  • @dragonknight1560
    @dragonknight1560 Місяць тому +1

    Yea the skin arm always bothered me but since you mention Hashirama DNA... what if Obito used the Rinnegan's power to summon the King of Hell to repair his arms, his actual arms, and even mix this procedure with Hashirama cells so now his arms and body is stronger and better than before. Now that wouldn't make sense but it feels like it's something Obito would try in an attempt to better use the Rinnegan no less make his Six Paths of Pain out of the Edo Tensei Jinchuriki. It would be FUCKED up because that means White Masked Obito is MORE powerful than we're led on. But that's just an assumption, very unlikely one. Like that's REACHING that he would do something like that... then again, he survived getting the Tailed Beasts extracted out of him no less doing the Rinne Rebirth on Madara, forcefully. BUT AGAIN, it doesn't explain later on with that side of his body still all white when clearly it wasn't... unless he has some Jutsu that disguises his skin color. LIKE... No, that would be stupid!
    SO... Deidara took a few years of his life to have his eyepatch eye to ignore Sharingan Genjutsu and failed while Konan prepped a paperbomb Jutsu meant to trick the Sharingan. HAHA, that's actually funny! That's a good win for her! I'm glad!
    Good video. No arguments about each confrontation.

  • @matthew.b.thomas
    @matthew.b.thomas Місяць тому +1

    Konan respect 🔥
    Always hate seeing her downplayed bc she got prep time

  • @supremelore_1533
    @supremelore_1533 29 днів тому

    I feel like we really needed some Hashirama fights. He exists just to oppose Madara but I have no idea how he deals with Kamui, he just wins cause power level yunno. We needed some more variety from him other than survivability, power and some contact or smell-based sealing.

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  29 днів тому +1

      Yeah it’s kinda unfortunate that he’s only really challenged by Madara and just outright above everyone else. Honestly the passive Kamui of nature saves Obito for a little but Hashirama’s overwhelming force of Jutsu + SM for suprise attacks + Wood clones for back coverage make it so he’s either gonna catch Obito when materialized or outright stall out the Kamui timer

    • @supremelore_1533
      @supremelore_1533 29 днів тому

      @@ThunderGodTG I mean now that you remind me of Sage mode, I can kinda see it hapenning. Cause withough SM or some kind of teleportation I can't see anyone surviving an Obito surprise attack. Even konan had the benefit of prep time.

  • @hiddenmarco
    @hiddenmarco Місяць тому +1

    Why does it always feel like u done these videos already😭

  • @sprucewayne10
    @sprucewayne10 29 днів тому

    To me the only one who wins is Hashirama because it doesn't matter how many times Obito uses Izanagi, Hashirama will never run out of Chakra and there's nothing that Obito can do to him. The rest of them wouldn't be able to overcome having to kill him multiple times.

  • @DarkEye-re9zg
    @DarkEye-re9zg Місяць тому +2

    "Right now, no one control its chakra". Would Itachi even be included in this as he's dead at the end of the third databook?

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Місяць тому +1

      Itachi was insanely ill and nearing blindness near Shippuden so him not being able to control the Kyuubi makes sense as it requires insane amounts of chakra to do as even Obito can only do it for a short while.

    • @DarkEye-re9zg
      @DarkEye-re9zg Місяць тому

      @@ThunderGodTG
      I don't know whether the statement would include him at all as right now is specified and he wouldn't be alive then just like madara.
      The only proof he can control it is his own word that mangekyo can control kyuubi and the sharingans utmost limit being controlling kyuubi.
      No direct proof he can control it but nothing against him not controlling it either.
      You also mentioned one of kaguyas dimensions as super gravity? Is that an accurate translation.? Cause I have heard super gravity can be higher dimensional

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  29 днів тому

      This is all assuming you go off the MS controlling the Nine Tails as outright fact as opposed to Uchiha clan mythos passed down by the Uchiha.
      I have not seen or heard of any alternate translations for the super gravity dimension, and I’ve pretty much know all the main ones for Kaguya, if it was higher dimensional I feel like I would have been exposed to it at some point as that’s pretty crucial for like 4D Naruto.

    • @DarkEye-re9zg
      @DarkEye-re9zg 29 днів тому

      @@ThunderGodTG
      True.
      I haven't seen it for naruto either but super gravity in theoretical physics is considered higher dimensional . I have seen godzilla scalers using this so I remembered.

  • @jonathanhayhurst3928
    @jonathanhayhurst3928 Місяць тому

    I noticed some of your opinions changed since your colab with Swag. What changed your mind about Tobirama and Hokage Kakashi?

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Місяць тому

      I actually did have those opinions they just didn't really come out into that recording. If you look at either the Pain or Itachi video done they'll represent that

    • @jonathanhayhurst3928
      @jonathanhayhurst3928 Місяць тому

      @@ThunderGodTG Fair enough. What video of yours could I watch to get your take on Tobirama vs Minato? Who do you have winning and how many times out of ten?
      I put Minato winning like 7-8/10 high-ish difficulty (alive hokage vs alive hokage).
      I always though Tobirama was weaker than Minato at the things Minato is good at (speed, FTG, sealing, etc), but Tobirama has more chakra and more jutsu. So he's almost like a Minato-Hiruzen hybrid with some senju DNA, haha.
      Appreciate your content. Keep up the good work!

  • @Spexz07
    @Spexz07 27 днів тому

    Simple
    Tsunade and Hiruzen - gets destroyed negative to low diff
    Tobirama - Either way (Tobirama would go tryhard against an Uchiha)
    Minato - wins high diff
    Hashirama - wins low diff
    Naruto - low diff
    Kakashi - loses low to mid diff.
    This only OM Obito
    If Juubito he destroyes everyone neagtive to low diff except Naruto.

  • @AxleBoost
    @AxleBoost Місяць тому

    Put the Sannin here too. Individually with same conditions.

  • @user-ni8ir2bh8p
    @user-ni8ir2bh8p 29 днів тому

    Can you talk about a hypothetical dual sharingan obito against the 4th hokage when he went to get the nine tails. I lean towards obito wining this match if he would’ve had both of his sharingan

  • @ChrisChaosMK2
    @ChrisChaosMK2 17 днів тому

    There is a third possibility... in that Obitio put both Jinchuriki and the Tailed Beast under the same Genjutsu.

  • @Robbieuchiha
    @Robbieuchiha 27 днів тому

    I’m on the higher interpretations of tobirama so I think defeats orange mask obito low dif he also has other things like he’s one of the best sensor ninjas he has bringer of darkness the water lance plus his skill with the ftg is very good and people downplay it a lot he does a lot of the same stuff minato does like ftg level 2 he can teleport biju bombs and other stuff and people without teleporting with it as seen when he does it to sasuke he could also teleport two kurama avatars at the same time and he has the ftg round robin I think the main reason minato is better with it is because of guiding thunder I’m not disagreeing with what you said in your video I’m just giving some of my thoughts on tobiramas scaling

  • @Romanj28
    @Romanj28 Місяць тому

    Please do more videos with Swagkage

  • @cattusstroffic1243
    @cattusstroffic1243 Місяць тому

    Can you make a what if Minato had his jutsu from the Naruto shippuden movie The Tower. How would things play out

  • @yamamotogotbodied1606
    @yamamotogotbodied1606 Місяць тому +1

    Damn close second

  • @thomasmcgraw8778
    @thomasmcgraw8778 Місяць тому

    I actually think obito used izanagi for 1 minute against conan and it reset his kamui timer so he just kamuied through 9 minutes of paper bombs. I have no way of proving this but I think it's a solid theory

  • @ngosongjr1908
    @ngosongjr1908 Місяць тому

    People say Kakashi copied thousands of jutsu as a spy which obito he was in most of his life , he should have tons of abilities which he has copied along side others he learned re-animation jutsu from Kabuto , plus forbidden jutsu , his genjutsu is crazy for him to be able to control perfectly jenjuriki.. so Obito will stomp

  • @s.owl9
    @s.owl9 26 днів тому

    “Ive actually theorized 🤓”. -TG
    😂

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  26 днів тому +1

      Had to check that ASAP

    • @s.owl9
      @s.owl9 26 днів тому

      @@ThunderGodTG I respect it though, were all geeks here 🤣
      I spent all night calculating the probable ages for every relevant character & the succession of Kage during each Shinobi War for a rewrite that will never see the light of day ☠️

  • @lazairance
    @lazairance Місяць тому +1

    Calling Itachi a sanin slayer is CRAZY
    i kinda like it tho

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Місяць тому

      We just gotta stand on business fr

  • @ShonenGoon
    @ShonenGoon Місяць тому

    Make a video on why rinnegan sage madara solo's the 4 hokage together

  • @gentlepeeps3351
    @gentlepeeps3351 Місяць тому

    to preface this the reason obito didnt bring a spare sharingan to fight minato was because he didnt have any yet as the uchiha masacare had not taken place yet which we know is how he got most of his sharingan

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Місяць тому

      The only counter argument is that he could have taken Madara’s spare Sharingan that he was using, but my headcannon is that he probably used that to actually test the technique itself.

    • @gentlepeeps3351
      @gentlepeeps3351 16 днів тому

      @@ThunderGodTG did madara have spare sharingan maybe i just forgot but i know madaras own sharingan were given to nagato when they became rinnegan but if he had other spares he should of used them

  • @Robbieuchiha
    @Robbieuchiha 27 днів тому

    With war arc kakashi I don’t think white mask obito held back against him plus he was relative to kcm minato without the lightning blade amp so war arc kakashi speed is very impressive

  • @GoldenDragonMonkey
    @GoldenDragonMonkey Місяць тому

    How does Team Guy do against Zabuza and Haku

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Місяць тому

      I do have a vid on the channel about that

  • @marwyn8152
    @marwyn8152 Місяць тому +1

    Obito isn't concealing his abilities at all. It's the opposite. He shows off Kamui to literally everyone in the series.

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Місяць тому

      He does so with his base sharingan, bro doesn't even reveal he has the MS until he they flat out know it's linked with Kakashi's Jutsu. He is equally as cryptic with his goals playing into the Kamui translucent form. We have never seen him openly use Wood Style, His MS, Along with him hiding his identity in the Akatsuki. I don't know how much more concealing you can be about stuff.

    • @marwyn8152
      @marwyn8152 Місяць тому

      @@ThunderGodTG Damn so Tobirama must be an enigma since we haven't seen him use all his elemental styles, huh?
      Same with literally every other ninja.
      Obito isn't cryptic with his goals; he's pretty upfront with them.
      And he's not afraid to reveal himself to those he trusts, like Kisame.
      He's not reluctant to show off his best move, Kamui. He's used woodstyle at least 3 times against an opponent. How much more do you want?
      He has some secrets (everyone does), but he ain't Patrick Star levels of engima.

  • @MZOver
    @MZOver Місяць тому

    “He won’t teleport to the bottom of the ocean”
    Nah he’s gotta check up on Jiraiya bro

  • @NuruChanVT
    @NuruChanVT Місяць тому

    Idk why people argue Yellow Mask over Orange. Yellow has chains and Kurama wheras Orange is implied by Minato to be in KCM2 tiers of power. They are worlds apart.

  • @darkstar2682
    @darkstar2682 Місяць тому

    You want steak?! AEAEAEAEAAEAEAEAEEEAAAAAHHH

  • @darkstar2682
    @darkstar2682 Місяць тому

    What if each Hokage fought guy (7th gate for fairness) in Madara’s position

  • @ngosongjr1908
    @ngosongjr1908 Місяць тому

    Obito could have ended the show long ago , the sealing by Minato did nothing . Rin was killed but the tail beast in her did not die meaning he could have ended Naruto and still get the tail beast as the gedo Nazo is there for that .
    Plus I don't believe Minato permanently stop Obito from ever controlling tailed beast you can ask yagara who he controlled for 3 years.

  • @Skips10
    @Skips10 29 днів тому

    what if every Hokage fought Kurama the same way Naruto did to claim KCM

  • @OkairMcLaren
    @OkairMcLaren Місяць тому

    Sigh, people just don't understand how to powerscale Tsunade. I don't understand why they never include katsuyu in her vs matches when Tsunade's nickname is literally slug princess/queen. Sakura figured out how kamui worked with just one interaction and Tsunade was the one who taught Sakura how to watch her opponent's every move, before, during and after an attack. Tsunade will figure out how kamui work just like Sakura, Katsuyu clone being on Tsunade's shoulder will be there to prevent any chances of Tsunade getting pulled into the kamui dimension as she can just spit acid to prompt his kamui, attack him with her large clone size, try to trap him, etc. (Katsuyu is so versatile!) Tsunade can then follow up on the cooldown time as she is fast enough to do so and one shot him. Even if she does get pulled into the kamui dimension, Katsuyu can still communicate with herself and Tsunade thanks to the byakugou seal regardless of the distance. Katsuyu is also a sensory type and she will find obito's chakra whenever he uses kamui in his dimension to evade another attack from the real world and can just one shot the body part that he dematerializes in the real world into the kamui dimension with her acid.
    Katsuyu also just nullifies kamui in general as she can split apart immediately and can just reverse summon herself or Tsunade back and vice versa. A Katsuyu clone being on Tsunade's shoulder also means she will be able to sense obito if he tries to sneak up on Tsunade with Kamui thanks to senjutsu. Tsunade also has top tier reactions thanks to being the best medical ninja aside from Sakura. Its possible that Tsunade uses her lightning chakra on herself to enhance her reaction speed as we know she uses it to scramble opponents nervous systems, basically making them immobile. Katsuyu can also be used as a marker as she can split into any size she wants so a mini Katsuyu clone small enough that obito can't see can attach herself to him and basically becomes a tracker for Tsunade and Katsuyu. With that, Tsunade can use offensive medical ninjutsu or send body pathway derangement through that Katsuyu clone and immobilize Obito, securing her victory. Katsuyu/Tsunade are highly resistant/immune to genjutsu thanks to the shared connection with the byakugou seal and Katsuyu in general just being Katsuyu having a hivemind and an independent mind simultaneously. (Katsuyu can break Tsunade out of genjutsu and Tsunade can break Katsuyu out of genjutsu and Katsuyu can break other katsuyu clones out of genjustu. Even though I don't see how Tsunade would be placed under genjustu to begin with thanks to the byakugou seal being the pinnacle of chakra control.) Imma stop here as a lot more can be said so imma reply to any comments that wanna discuss/debate.

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Місяць тому +1

      Tsunade not gonna let you hit bro

    • @OkairMcLaren
      @OkairMcLaren Місяць тому

      @@ThunderGodTG And I don't wanna hit Tsunade, so your joke is actually kind of sad. Try to power scale the character correctly for once.

  • @MZOver
    @MZOver Місяць тому +1

    I actually do think YM Obito did have a second sharingan since old man Madara did have one sharingan in the opposite eye socket.

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Місяць тому

      Yeah I brought that up in another pocket it’s possible, unless you somehow argue Obito used that to actually test the Izanagi as opposed to him maybe using it later after getting mad Sharingan from the massacre.

    • @MZOver
      @MZOver Місяць тому

      @@ThunderGodTG him using it for a test run would explain why he didn’t use it during the Kyuubi attack.

  • @jason-vv6kv
    @jason-vv6kv Місяць тому

    32:45
    "TObirama can only mark one kunai at a time" ???
    Based on what? His fighting preference is proof of this?

    • @ThunderGodTG
      @ThunderGodTG  Місяць тому

      In character he only marks them 1 at a time, also reply to your other stupid ass comment

  • @italiansandvich3942
    @italiansandvich3942 26 днів тому

    Izanagi is so broken i cant see anyone but the first beating obito. Unless they are expecting it thats a free crit obito can get on any of them which would swing the fight to obito with the first maybe able to power through it. Just imagine kamui plus being able to repsawn youre not dodging that hit. Obviously naruto is just gonna fondle him