All Deidara had to do was like wait a month and not be such an Uchiha smoke demon and he could’ve gotten famous blowing up the summit. Youth is wasted on the young
Not gonna lie, is Konan has prep time she can straight up solo the summit. Her IQ is almost as high as Shikamaru and she’s much stronger than him plus her intangibility hacks. They’d have a hard time with her alone. Bring in any path of pain, or even Nagato himself and they get absolutely wiped. I appreciate you giving Konan a lot of the credit she deserves. She’s not a push over. AT ALL.
Honestly Deidara nukes the building then Sasori just poisons everyone. Tsunade, granny Chiyo, and Sakura would not be able to save them. They would wreck house.
Don't forget right before he did that, Sasuke cut down all the Kages banner and it even took the sensory a few seconds to spot Sasuke on the ceiling. Coldest shit ever!
That scene was so interesting to me because I know by then that sasuke is him and tho he didn’t exactly win he ran through 2 kage so I knew him standing on the ceiling meant sasuke is him but what interests me was even then I knew sasuke won off of luck so fighting every single kage in that room meant sasuke was cooked
@@takatotakasui8307 what win con? Ohnoki can one shot him and his susano. If Ohnoki can kill 10+ Susano Madaras in one shot, than I'm pretty sure Itachi doesn't stand a chance. I can't tell if this is Madara underplay or Itachi overplay.
An interesting aspect for Kakuzu in this scenario could be potentially stealing rare nature transformations like Storm release or lava release by taking the users’ hearts, but I’m unsure if he makes it far enough for that to be relevant.
@@Delimon007 pretty sure the wind heart just blasts her to pieces if it was pressing Kakashi in speed. Mei is not shown to be as fast as he is, and would probably get overwhelmed. Kakuzu is definitely getting melted if he gets hit directly by the lava, but he could feasibly burrow underground to escape with Earth release while a heart or two chases Mei around.
I’m curious, could Kisame share chakra thru Samehada? Because if yes, then Itachi would also have similar amount of chakra from what Kisame would share…
If A is going max speed against kisame , kisame would just regen with samehada after blocking, just like what he did against v2 killer bee. Killer bees lariat was specially trained to be the same speed and strength as A’s allowing them to do the double lariat. V2 cloak bee would have been even faster and stronger so if kisame tanked that and got up stronger , the same would be the case against A.
I feel, more realistically, for Kisame+Itachi vs the Kage summit? Itachi plays support and minimizes chakra use while allowing Kisame to be the front against any non one hit threat. Like. The Raikage is dangerous to Kisame, but Itachi can cover the gaps while Kisame eats his chakra so severely that it is a joke, while Itachi can probably take the support with normal genjutsu AND help Kisame. Samehada can eat the wind style, and drain Gaara's sand of chakra (which should just be hemorrhaging Garra's reserves) and Kankuro, at the worst, can just eat a fight with Itachi...which I'm thinking it is fair to say he loses. From there, life gets harder because eating particle style and lava/boil release is really difficult-but Kisame is now amped with a pretty decent reserve of chakra and they can decide how they engage the room. Itachi and crow clones, a massive, obscene flood of water from Kisame and fusing with Samehada, attempted Tsukuyomi from a significantly less drained Itachi on the key players, just Water Shark bombs in a fresh flooded room...It doesn't look great for the Kage in there.
Good video man thanks for dealing with the Kisame slander. Idk where this downplay started I think I first heard about it in a Virthue video but clearly that interpretation of the Bee fight is disingenuous and inconsistent with Kisame’s power in the rest of the series. If Kisame was slower than Base Bee then why would Guy need 6 Gates against his 30% clone and 7 Gates against Kisame on Turtle Island ? There’s also many instances in the fight of Kisame and Samehada pulling off combos that wouldn’t make sense if Kisame couldn’t perceive and physically react to Bee’s movements. I left a big fat response to one of Virthue’s videos downplaying Kisame once, you should give it a read if you can find it. I would also add to your video that one thing I think you overlooked is Samehada absorbtion as a counter to Ninjutsu. Samehada could straight absorb the lightning cloak off the Raikage slowing him down to Base levels, just like it did to V1 & V2 Bee and the raiton blades/pencils. Even against Ohnoki, particle style is getting absorbed just as Itachi’s fire style did in the war. Basically, anything that has to get near/touch Kisame to pull off a wincon is susceptible to absorption, so even if Itachi was fatigued I think Kisame honestly solos the whole Kage summit without even necessarily having to flood it. Even on the genjutsu point, in the games Itachi never even bothers using base sharingan genjutsu on Kisame and has to threaten MS for Kisame to consider the fight competitive. So I don’t see anyone else’s genjutsu doing anything to him. Finally I think Kisame could be upscale even further than what you said in this video without even being ratty or wanking. The V2 partial reaction is a good starting point but Kisame on Turtle Island is able to fire his ultimate water shark bomb jutsu at relative speed to Guy’s 7th Gate Hirudora. He also tanks the Hirudora and a punch from 7th Gate Guy without being ripped to shreds and later on the brink of death he’s able to bust out of Yamato’s wood style which is capable of temporarily restraining 4 Tails Naruto. FP Base/V1 Bee is also shown superior to atleast FP V1 Raikage as he overpowers him in the land of snow and can fight alongside KCM naruto in the war arc. So basically the best fighter stats wise at the summit would need his highest iteration to even stand a chance against Kisame and it likely still isn’t enough. Any CQC or Ninjutsu just gets chakra negged into oblivion. Kisame is a nightmare for almost anyone unless you have insane hax that are preferably non-ninjutsu based. Anyways great video keep it up! I also agree with the Pain part, good combatting of Pain downplay as well 👍
With Itachi…it’s not a question of if…it’s a question of when… Then comes the realization that you were already under his genjutsu before he even made his presence known.
On the Itachi and Kisame point; Id argue Itachi would be the support not vice versa. They're very intelligent S rank shinobi (Especially Itachi), so I could see Itachi telling Kisame to just go ham while he himself supports by sniping people off 1 by 1 in order to preserve his own chakra. They would know they are against the 5 kage, and neither of them are egotistical. Great video by the way!
I love your understanding of each character's strengths and weaknesses and this is really apparent when you talk about kisame and itachi, itachi is REALLY STRONG but he's sort of the 1v1 god of naruto and a raid on the kage summit isn't really him in his element which is the exact opposite for kisame so him playing a much more straightforward and arguably more useful role is very realistic, when some people are so ready to just disregard that because of how strong itachi is and just gloss over it like "they steamroll, itachi carries, moving on" and probably even forget kisame is there too
Yooo this is probably my favorite video you’ve ever dropped, you really did everyone justice imo. I’m a pro Kakuzu downplayer and I want him to be stronger but being a base Naruto victim at this point in the series is…BAD (true he was taken off guard, but even if naruto doesn’t really have “power cliffing” like other shonen even base Sasuke is stronger than that Naruto). It was great to see someone actually talk about Sasori’s actual scaling and not like, 5th grade level reading comprehension of his fight w/Chiyo and Sakura. I think Chiyo did in fact battle Hanzo and not just in a contest of poison, but you already know that I don’t think that actually puts her above sannin level. Sasori and Deidara I agree wouldn’t even set foot in that room normally, but the duo are really hindered by the Raikage being the very first opp in the room (which, btw, insane that Sasuke had to fight the second strongest Kage first in the gauntlet). Mei and Gaara would get clapped by the artist duo but the Raikage is TOO fast and strong. At best they use AoE to clear the room and clap C & Darui and run but Sasori being Gaara+ and Deidara being sub-Gaara to sub Onoki level in the air means they eventually get ganged up on and beaten up weather it’s by Onoki or the Raikage once he catches up to them. I don’t really put any stock into the Boruto stuff for Satetsu being weak to Raiton and iirc Shinki clashed with purple lightning later (and do we really need to give Raiton more advantages over other elements 💀 wtf is wrong with these authors). Itachi and Kisame clear, Itachi is way too strong and fast with his Susanoo and his genjutsu, might be edgy but imo every Kage is a super water shark bomb victim. And Pain. He’s pretty strong, but he’s not KCM level speed, so he’d probably lose to Chojiro (💀). Jk, Pain wipes his ass with the 5 Kage. Raikage is a Preta path victim and there’s 0 evidence base Ay can actually get out of a Preta path full nelson that was restraining Sage Naruto. The Deva, Preta, and Animal paths together could honestly solo the summit.
Ohnoki would beat pain since he destroyed like 10 of Madaras Susanos in one attack, people tend to forget just how insane he is. Unless you can convince me pre kcm Naruto was capable of his feats lol.
@@___________0Z0X Well Ohnoki did survive both a slice from the perfect Susano and a meteor falling on him while heavily fatigued. Particle style can be absorbed sure, but if he is smart and fast enough to hit 10 Madara clones with susano than he could probably hit the paths of pain pretty easily. He also blitzed ms Sasuke who was pretty fast at that point. And once hit, the paths of pain cannot come back since they get disintegrated. I think Ohnoki just counters pain in too many ways. The only person I could see beating him at the kage summit is Obito, and we know he isn’t fighting.
U should do a kage aid Vs battle like tournament ish thing Foo & Tarune Vs Kankuro & Temari Ao & Chojuro Vs Darui & C Ofc put the stone team in the mix like maybe after the winner of one of these matchups or something like that
Imagine if: •Deidara creates explosive birds that surround the kage summit •While Sasori has 3rd Kazekage poison/ iron sand them • explode the birds while they try to escape 🤔 ☠️
@@mryellow6918 there are too many strong and smart people around the kage summit. It wouldn’t just be sand village chunin fodder. And this plan also includes surrounding the area with chakra bombs, unlike just sneaking into the sand village.
@@Pain-106 as soon as you realise that you're under the genjutsu you can instantly break out from it all it's good for is a suggestion. Like it's not gonna let you just go kill your duo because you'd never do it.
@@mryellow6918 If you can counter Enemies All ability and enemy can't counter your then it's Gg bro... If you're under koto genjutsu you can't even realise that you're under genjutsu....
The mei downplay is crazy she isn't the highest stat wise but I wouldn't give Kisame an instant W as Mei dies have tempature control which reached the point of melt Sasuke's Susanoo. Onoki can also sweep his partie style if called for. If he reacts fast enough he can disintegrate the water before it builds up
She would not be able to do it in that room as all the Kage are present, like in the original fight. Lava style is def the best attribute or you say she maybe boils any water used.
@@ThunderGodTG Fair I do wonder if she would act differently knowing it's Kisame. Danzo would target Itachi if he showed up as Izanagi would be more effective on a dying Itachi.
@@mryellow6918 Not necessarily Itachi especially would be a loose end he would want tied up. The summit with it's guard would be the best oppurtunity to dispatch of him especially with Izanagi being really bad for itachi who would still be dying at this time.
TG Thank you for this Video and also I think that Itachi and Kisame would actually manage to clear through the entire Summit although that is probably contentious.
The Kage are so lucky that the Akatsuki were written out of the story as quickly as possible, otherwise the 4th great Ninja War would have had a different ending
All i can say is poor Deidara. C1 will get negged by lightning cloak and he can't use C2 to C4 because they're in an enclosed environment. Here's my takes on this. - Hidan and Kakuzu: Gets stomped by the Raikage - Sasori and Deidara: Sasori carries Deidara in the Raikage fight, and both of them IMO are enough to beat Danzo, especially Sasori who can win in a single hit. Danzo will have to use Izanagi in order to not die from the poison. So Sasori have to hit Danzo ten times and i thunk he can manage that with the help of Deidara. - Itachi and Kisame: Kisame will constantly feeding Itachi chakra so he won't get exhausted. They'd go through the Raikage, Kisame would absorb Raikage's lightning armor, Mai's lava style and vapor style, and Onoki's particle style. I think they'd be fine. Against Danzo is just not fair for him. The duo beats him. - Pain and Konan: Pain carries. Period.
In character it honestly might be more likely for Deidara to just cheese the Raikage and run away. Deidara would use a clay clone to fake out a Kamekaze which tricked even the sharingan of Kakashi and Sasori could fill the room with poison smoke clouds and collapse the pillars if he had to but in character he’d want to fight the Raikage. Sasori is closer to the Raikage than Deidara is but even just his base lightning chakra mode is a monstrous force. It’s really a tall order for anyone to beat him S rank or not especially with his speed.
Pain hype is as crazy as music in that section. My opinion on Pain vs Itachi is changing too often xD fenomenal video man, every section well explained
@@mcfcDJ51Itachi dies of chakra exhaustion against a chakra tank like Nagato. Even if he uses Susano, he is not defeating all 6 paths before he gets exhausted or blind and dies.
This is what I have to say about Gaara. I agree he’s not as fast as Raikage, however, Kishimoto wrote him into the story to be defensive, and relevant at every point of the story with that ability. That inherently increases his speed honestly just as startlingly as Sasuke increases his during the show, even if that wasn’t the intent.
The only pair that would win here are itachi and kisame. Kisame is the equivalent of a tailed beast (he's called that for a damn reason) and actually counters a lot of the kage sitting there at the table. Itach is just broken af if we are considering he's not in his weakened state. In fact, in Naruto Itachi would EASILY be in the top 10 strongest in the Narutoverse if not for him being heavily nerfed. It wouldn't even be a contest. Even nerfed, we saw what a premature Susanoo could do, imagine what a mature one like Itachi's could do who has a sealing sword and a shield that blocks all attacks. It's not even up for debate. Edit: I completely forgot about pain. When you factor in the fact that he is killing sannin with relative ease and in his fight against Naruto he was HEAVILY nerfed. Yea I don't think pain even needs a partner here. I can solo all the Kage just like Madara did. Wtf are they going to do about it?
Sasori and Deidara easily clear the Raikage. What is most likely going to happen is Sasori assassinates and disables Darui and C silently. Then Deidara and Sasori team up to fight the Raikage. This environment is actually great for Sasori because of all the human puppets and infiltration he can do with the samurai and fodder ninjas. Additionally Deidara is his equal. Kisame considers him one of the strongest members of the Akaktsuki. Deidara has shown some of the best usage of clones and substitution. And he also has the hiding underground earth style technique. Raikage being able to take both of them on at the same time is unlikely. His lightning is not the same as Sasuke's lightning, no where near as versatile. It also took time before Sasuke figured out to defuse the bombs and Raikage can't see the nano bombs and would 100% be fooled by the "dud" effect. C4 along with the poison sand and the superior intelligence would just be too much for the Raikage. The Raikage was being dumb vs Sasuke but he probably would act dumb here too considering its in character and they are from the same organization that sparked the whole summit and took his brother. I would say if they ran the gauntlet as a duo the way Sasuke did, they would probably actually defeat the Raikage before Gaara comes in. Then they would beat Gaara's squad easily as well. Then they would probably lose to Mei and Ohnoki's squad working as a team. Assuming Deidara doesn't nuke the place lol.
Bro literally in-character diedara and Sasori, they would walk that entire situation, by nuking it before hand. But, even as you said, they are very versatile in what they can do, especially when working together, they are both terrorist ninja, they are used to taking out entire villages and squads of people, this would be the perfect situation for them
But if all 5 kage are together pain & Konan are finished ohnoni can counter pain chibaku tensei and universal pull is perfect for raikage cuz he’s a close combat fighter so he can instantly blitz pain
i think kakuzu can handily overwhelm the fifth mizukage, and certainly hold his own vs gaara at least. onnoki's dust release however is a perfect counter to kakuzus arsenal though
Itachi and kisame absolutely clears five kage sumit, think about it. Obito literally expected sasuke to do so because he thought that freshly awakened ms sasuke should be on itachis level thats why he sent sasuke to the summit so sasuke could clear the summit and obito could take kages hostages so infinit tsukuyomi would go smoothly, anyone who watched the show knows it...
All the hokage? Naruto, Hashirama, and 9 tails Minato stomp any duo. Tobirama normally I don't think can beat Pain/Konan and Itachi/Kisame unless he is allowed to use reanimations. Tobirama could probably take down Itachi/Kisame due to his experience fighting the sharingan and his high level water style which is comparable to Kisame. We don't know how strong prime Hiruzen was, but old Hiruzen clears Kakuzu/Hidan, most likely loses to everyone else. I don't see how he could win vs deidara long range and c4 and sasori poison vs puppets. Old hiruzen loses to everyone else. Prime hiruzen with more chakra could summon clones and bombard Deidara/Sasori puppets with high level ninjutsu to likely win. Still loses to the other duos.
Tsunade is interesting here. With Katsuyu, power, healing, and Byakugou seal, she has a LOT of durability and can fight a battle of attrition which can probably win her some match ups. Against the immortal duo, Tsunade clears. We've seen her take Orochimaru's attack to the heart and heal it with byakugou seal. Even if Hidan hits her with the curse, she isn't dying to him. She punches and katsuyu acid destroys Hidan. Kakuzu is the problem. His armor has an unknown limit to normal damage. He tanked the 2 tails attack so it's possible he can tank Tsunade's punches. However, in a battle of attrition like this and her amazing evasion techniques, she's going to drain (😳) Kakuzu's chakra before she ever goes down herself. Any attack he throws at her will be tanked and not to mention katsuyu will help her out vs the mask things. Vs the artist duo is interesting. Can her byakugou seal tank Deidara's C4 and Sasori's poison? Perhaps the poison but I doubt the C4. Tsunade's only long reach abilities is Katsuyu spraying acid, throwing boulders at him or her using Katsuyu as a launching point which are all reasonable attacks to hit deidara. She can always hide inside Katsuyu to avoid the C4. Vs sasori, she can tank/avoid all his attacks and crush any puppet he throws at her. Vs kazekage puppet will look similar to how Sakura fought it. This matchup is tricky to tell who wins, so I give it 50/50. Vs the other duos she loses. She can immune Itachi's genjutsu but can't do anything to susano. Kisame absorbs her chakra and Katsuyu gets sealed by totsuka blade. No explanation for Pain. Hokage Kakashi loses every matchup except the immortal duo. He lost chidori and sharingan, but it's stated he is way stronger than before due to more chakra. Purple lightning can counter Kakuzu's armor and he can use any of his 1,000 jutsu to destroy his mask things. He fared really well vs them as a Jonin, and as a Hokage he clears them (especially with his previous knowledge of fighting them). DMS Kakashi clears any duo
Mei was capable of dissolving Susano'o though, I think with that, it would at least make Itachi hesitate using Susano'o. Even with the Yata Mirror, she'll still overheat Kisame's water domain. This would still dissolve most parts of the Susano'o and literally cook both Kisame and Itachi because they have no counter to that other than genjutsu. Which, Itachi is already focusing genjutsu on Ay, there's nothing he can do to Mei.
Shisui said he couldn’t be hit when he used body flicker bc he had no mass but his attacks hit bc everything has mass.. if A uses body flicker is it the same for him? Just wondering
sorry first off great video but at 47:42 and prior is that the bakugan battle brawlers game subterra arena music playing in the back because that has had my attention trying to figure it out?
You didn’t mention how the yata mirror can negate jinton too. And Kisame can probably get so swole from the lightning armor too. Itachi and Kisame are BEASTS. They probably clear mid dif tbh.
Raikage is single handedly bodying everyone of them besides pain and tobi. Raikage is stronger than Bee and Bee is stronger than sasuke and sasuke is stronger than itachi and itachi is stronger than all of them besides pain and tobi. End of convo haha. None of them are beating pain or tobi. The only way they do that is if they jump them, than its ggs 😂😂
People must understand that itachi and Kisame are way above sanins,also alive itachi(sick)is not beating Kisame prime Ohnoki cant hit kisame with his jutsu in water,also he can drown everyone here. Kisame and Itachi>>> Thansk for reading
Itachi is faster or as fast as Ay bare minimum. Not using his feats against KCM. He still has DS Kabuto feats with the Scattering White Rage. The dragon is photons and Itachi outspeeds it.
34:03 kisame can give itachi all the chakra he absorbed with Samehada, like Samehada did with Bee. They are a very good duo just bc they are very different from each other and one compensate for the other’s weakness
Raikage Ay literally one shotted kisame and he couldn’t even react itachi would get blitz extremely badly and killed if ge engaged the raikage. Sasuke only survived because of amateratsu armored susanoo.
Imagine if kismet puts em all in water prison with a water clone and let's raikage shock all of them at once. Everyone but itatchi and kisame take a hit
I tend to think that Kisame just ran into the kage summit room he’d get hard bodied. Torune Aburame would be disastrous for him. And I’m surprised you didn’t mention Kankuro poisoning the water. Or Mei turning the water into acid.
Late reply, but I don't actually think Sasori would nessacarily beat Gaara, Gaara is like the perfect counter to Sasori's tactics (with one potential exception): Sasori heavily relies on poison to take out enemies, which is gonna be useless vs Gaara who can block everything with sand: Even against the 100 puppets, there's not really anything they can do to get through Gaara's defenses if he totally hunkers down in a sand shell/sphere. The only thing Sasori can maybe do is use the Iron sand to dig/work it's way through Gaara's own sand, and I'm not even sure that would work. That said, Deidera CAN blow holes in Gaara's defenses, so 2v1 he's washed I also think Onhki is consistently underestimated here: If all or most of the other Kage are taken out, nothing is stopping him from flying out of the building and de-atomizing the entire area with particle style. Only characters who can really deal with that would be Itachi (with the yata mirror, maybe), pain (possibly with alimighty push or the preta path), and Konan (if she disassembles herself fast enough, doubtful, though I think you're also underselling her here: she can presumbly mix in sealing tags or even summoning paper with her paper, not just bombs, plus make different paper constructs: if she can make butterflies and knives and lances, she can do other things, too)
I wish regular ninjutsu wasn't useless by the end of the war. It would've been cool to see how strong Tobirama's water style actually is considering what weaker characters like kisame and suigetsu are able to do.
theres no way around it...nobody is touching Itachi. Itachi would just sit back and watch Kisame go to work. Itachi was skill and precision (hated fighting ended fights fast) Kisame was power and ruthlessness (loved fighting loved dragging fights on)
"Its gonna be like that SMG Manta level" Well yeah Gaara's fucked then 😂 Edit: Kisame could also give Itachi some Chakra to top him back off if he sees Itachi is winded. The only catch with completely demolishing the place is that Obito wanted at least some of the Kage taken as hostages. So Pain probably would not resort to blowing up the entire summit and then Obito showing toward the end for hostages makes it low diff for both Itachi and Pain's group
Kisame or Itachi can both overcome the raikage very easily. We can compare the speed of 4 rai and B when the two of them compete with each other using lariat - a move that combines footwork and hand movements. As a result, B (normal form) won. That proves that B's footwork is no worse than 4 rai, and in terms of reaction speed, B pushed 4 rai away from minato's attack and was capable of resisting minato's level 2 FTG. Meanwhile, B's speed in eight-tailed chakra mode cannot surpass samehada, and B in basic form cannot hit or catch up with Itachi. That proves that both Kisame and Itachi are much faster than the 4 raikage
I will say this one thing. I actually doubt Itachi could pull off a tsukuyomi on the raikage. Only because itachi is known for his genjutsu so i seriously doubt raikage is going to challenge Itachis genjutsu. Also judging off of how long it actually took for the raikage to get caught in a genjutsu verses madara i doubt itachi catches him. Raikage faught 5 full human form susannos with 1 hand from madara with hashirama cells. Fighting one incomplete sussano is not going to be enough to catch him. I believe that the raikage by himself could definitely stall long enough for gaara to get there and even the odds. Tho the only way i see itachi catching raikage in a genjutsu is if he maybe looses concentration on his fight with itachi because kisame is about to kill darui. But even then i think max speed raikage is fast enough to intercept. And although itachi is no scrub and wouldnt get perception blitzed by raikage i doubt he could stop the raikage from intercepting kisame at full speed while he is still sick. I actually have raikage and gasra coming out slightly on top and forcing itachi and kisame to retreat due to the fact that itachi pulling out the sussano would have attracted the other kages attention and there is no way that kisame and itachi ate taking on danzo, onoki, A and Gaara at the same time. Another thing i think you missed is that the raikage actually prevents kisame from flooding the room. Because if he does he put everyone in danger of being electrocuted. The water alone doesn't drain chakra, but the shark bombs due. The moment kisame even tried to dive in the water with raikage basically being an open circuit, he dies. I dont think kisame is dumb enough to do that to himself. Nor would itachi let him. That basically limits kisames moveset to swordsmanship and chakra stealing. Mei is actually a hard counter to kisame flood the room. Since her lava style pretty much prevents that. You cant drown everyone in the summit because they could simply break the building and let the water out. What do you mean "what is anyone gonna do" thats the simplest solution ever. On top of that Onokis stone golem can stall itachi sussano long enough to vaporize Itachi and itachi would know that. Itachi would never pull up on the 5 kage to begin with he isn't dumb like Sasuke. The 5 kage were boxing with madara. The dont imply that any training was done between the 5 kage summit and the war so its safe to assume they are the same strength. I think raikage holds out long enough for gaara to get there and then they hold oit long enough to force kisame and itachi to retreat. Saying that raikage isnt faster than pain is like saying kcm1 Naruto wouldn't speed run the pain arc. Thats preposterous. The only reason he had trouble with Sasuke is because Sasuke put up a sussano encased in amaterasu flame but Sasuke was going to get destroyed. Did we just forget that there is a 5 seconds interval between pushes. Are we just going to assume raikage and Onoki stands still for 5 seconds in-between every push? Every path but the deva path is getting speed blitzed immediately. What are missiles doing to lightning armor? What are dogs doing to the raikage? He would walk past all those dogs like they were moving in slow motion. Raikages reaction speed is Minato lvl. It's made very clear that lightning cloak is way faster than sage mode in sage Naruto vs the third raikage. The only reason Naruto could perceive the third is because of sage modes danger sense. Pain gets put on notice by raikage. The only win con i see for pain is planetary devastation. Then with Onoki and gaara there to konan isn't a problem. Gaara vs konan Onoki, raikage, danzo vs pain Mei is pretty useless here tho😂.
Thank u for specifying the speed in the beginning of the video its relly not something that should have to be explained ppl should have enough iq points to understand but unfortunately we still have this poor logic being used to make these schizophrenic arguments
But if Kisame would flood the whole summit wouldn’t that also affect Itachis battle prowess? I mean he is not a fish and cant move faster in the water then everyone else. Also his fire style wouldn’t be a factor anymore.
Im actually curious as to whether onoki does even beat kisame in the flood scenario. Obv Onoki is fast but is a fused kisame in water getting tagged with particle style?
We all know Itachi would be going straight to Danzo and just tell Kisame ta deal with his lackies.Danzo put my man thru so much shit he'd be thinking blindness is worth it and taking Danzo on a trip to the nightmare realm.
Deidara and Sasori are more likely to die and take others with them. Both of them use Jutsu that essentially poison the enemy. Raikagu might be immune to Deidara's bombs that get absorbed into the body, but Sasori's poisons should kill him, but not instantly and before he dies, he 1v2s.
"who would win in a fight" is stupid in fiction. Sasuke went from getting humiliated by bee to mauling the entirety of the kage. like it's just stuff people made up and having non canonical discussions about what would happen in this situation or that is completely useless because these aren't real people with real feats. they are make believe
Thank you for arguing against the Kisame downplay. That put a smile on my face.
That shit had to die I was so sick of it
@@ThunderGodTG Can Kisame defeat Jiraiya? 🤔
@ThunderGodTG FAX This is why ur my favorite naruto youtuber besides me
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@@FluentUchiha Can Jiraiya swim?
The idea of Deidara just nuking the place is funny af ngl
All Deidara had to do was like wait a month and not be such an Uchiha smoke demon and he could’ve gotten famous blowing up the summit.
Youth is wasted on the young
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Yo eternal flame
I think the stone village could survive. They can most likely hide underground.
Deidara is the most vulnerable because everything he does can be easily prevented by any electricity. Weak against raikage and darui
Not gonna lie, is Konan has prep time she can straight up solo the summit. Her IQ is almost as high as Shikamaru and she’s much stronger than him plus her intangibility hacks. They’d have a hard time with her alone. Bring in any path of pain, or even Nagato himself and they get absolutely wiped. I appreciate you giving Konan a lot of the credit she deserves. She’s not a push over. AT ALL.
COOK she’s actually insane ngl I have her a lot higher akatsuki placement wise than most people probably
Honestly Deidara nukes the building then Sasori just poisons everyone. Tsunade, granny Chiyo, and Sakura would not be able to save them. They would wreck house.
Yall not ready for itachi to pull up on the ocean using the yata mirror as a surfboard
You right.
Cursed 😂
Sasuke standing on the ceiling is one of the hardest things I've ever seen period
It's actually so tough
Don't forget right before he did that, Sasuke cut down all the Kages banner and it even took the sensory a few seconds to spot Sasuke on the ceiling. Coldest shit ever!
@@revalier3670it’s also cool how he clashed with mifune after
That scene was so interesting to me because I know by then that sasuke is him and tho he didn’t exactly win he ran through 2 kage so I knew him standing on the ceiling meant sasuke is him but what interests me was even then I knew sasuke won off of luck so fighting every single kage in that room meant sasuke was cooked
@@anime_world6684at that point he was halfly insane and just did everything without almost any plan.
I feel like as soon as danzo hears itachi’s is there he’d warn everyone to just run.
He would be on some bs like "All four of you need to escort me out of here!"
Tbh Ohnoki would solo Itachi and Kisame, dude is just stupid strong
@@donaldtrumplover2254 He has the AP but Itachi has too many win cons
@@takatotakasui8307 what win con? Ohnoki can one shot him and his susano. If Ohnoki can kill 10+ Susano Madaras in one shot, than I'm pretty sure Itachi doesn't stand a chance. I can't tell if this is Madara underplay or Itachi overplay.
Nah as soon as danzo hear itachi it there, he would order itachi to kill the uchiha side.
An interesting aspect for Kakuzu in this scenario could be potentially stealing rare nature transformations like Storm release or lava release by taking the users’ hearts, but I’m unsure if he makes it far enough for that to be relevant.
But what is he going to do to kill her? She has poison on top of lava that he can't really counter.
@@Delimon007 pretty sure the wind heart just blasts her to pieces if it was pressing Kakashi in speed. Mei is not shown to be as fast as he is, and would probably get overwhelmed. Kakuzu is definitely getting melted if he gets hit directly by the lava, but he could feasibly burrow underground to escape with Earth release while a heart or two chases Mei around.
I’m curious, could Kisame share chakra thru Samehada? Because if yes, then Itachi would also have similar amount of chakra from what Kisame would share…
Interesting point.
If A is going max speed against kisame , kisame would just regen with samehada after blocking, just like what he did against v2 killer bee.
Killer bees lariat was specially trained to be the same speed and strength as A’s allowing them to do the double lariat. V2 cloak bee would have been even faster and stronger so if kisame tanked that and got up stronger , the same would be the case against A.
I feel, more realistically, for Kisame+Itachi vs the Kage summit? Itachi plays support and minimizes chakra use while allowing Kisame to be the front against any non one hit threat. Like. The Raikage is dangerous to Kisame, but Itachi can cover the gaps while Kisame eats his chakra so severely that it is a joke, while Itachi can probably take the support with normal genjutsu AND help Kisame. Samehada can eat the wind style, and drain Gaara's sand of chakra (which should just be hemorrhaging Garra's reserves) and Kankuro, at the worst, can just eat a fight with Itachi...which I'm thinking it is fair to say he loses. From there, life gets harder because eating particle style and lava/boil release is really difficult-but Kisame is now amped with a pretty decent reserve of chakra and they can decide how they engage the room. Itachi and crow clones, a massive, obscene flood of water from Kisame and fusing with Samehada, attempted Tsukuyomi from a significantly less drained Itachi on the key players, just Water Shark bombs in a fresh flooded room...It doesn't look great for the Kage in there.
Good video man thanks for dealing with the Kisame slander. Idk where this downplay started I think I first heard about it in a Virthue video but clearly that interpretation of the Bee fight is disingenuous and inconsistent with Kisame’s power in the rest of the series. If Kisame was slower than Base Bee then why would Guy need 6 Gates against his 30% clone and 7 Gates against Kisame on Turtle Island ? There’s also many instances in the fight of Kisame and Samehada pulling off combos that wouldn’t make sense if Kisame couldn’t perceive and physically react to Bee’s movements. I left a big fat response to one of Virthue’s videos downplaying Kisame once, you should give it a read if you can find it.
I would also add to your video that one thing I think you overlooked is Samehada absorbtion as a counter to Ninjutsu. Samehada could straight absorb the lightning cloak off the Raikage slowing him down to Base levels, just like it did to V1 & V2 Bee and the raiton blades/pencils. Even against Ohnoki, particle style is getting absorbed just as Itachi’s fire style did in the war. Basically, anything that has to get near/touch Kisame to pull off a wincon is susceptible to absorption, so even if Itachi was fatigued I think Kisame honestly solos the whole Kage summit without even necessarily having to flood it. Even on the genjutsu point, in the games Itachi never even bothers using base sharingan genjutsu on Kisame and has to threaten MS for Kisame to consider the fight competitive. So I don’t see anyone else’s genjutsu doing anything to him.
Finally I think Kisame could be upscale even further than what you said in this video without even being ratty or wanking. The V2 partial reaction is a good starting point but Kisame on Turtle Island is able to fire his ultimate water shark bomb jutsu at relative speed to Guy’s 7th Gate Hirudora. He also tanks the Hirudora and a punch from 7th Gate Guy without being ripped to shreds and later on the brink of death he’s able to bust out of Yamato’s wood style which is capable of temporarily restraining 4 Tails Naruto. FP Base/V1 Bee is also shown superior to atleast FP V1 Raikage as he overpowers him in the land of snow and can fight alongside KCM naruto in the war arc. So basically the best fighter stats wise at the summit would need his highest iteration to even stand a chance against Kisame and it likely still isn’t enough. Any CQC or Ninjutsu just gets chakra negged into oblivion. Kisame is a nightmare for almost anyone unless you have insane hax that are preferably non-ninjutsu based.
Anyways great video keep it up! I also agree with the Pain part, good combatting of Pain downplay as well 👍
You're easily one of the most likable naruto content creators out keep up the great work
Thank you! Appreciate it!
@@ThunderGodTGI agree bro I’m hooked on your videos
Why don't people even acknowledge that at one time sasori and orochimaru were a team.
With Itachi…it’s not a question of if…it’s a question of when…
Then comes the realization that you were already under his genjutsu before he even made his presence known.
On the Itachi and Kisame point; Id argue Itachi would be the support not vice versa. They're very intelligent S rank shinobi (Especially Itachi), so I could see Itachi telling Kisame to just go ham while he himself supports by sniping people off 1 by 1 in order to preserve his own chakra. They would know they are against the 5 kage, and neither of them are egotistical. Great video by the way!
I love your understanding of each character's strengths and weaknesses and this is really apparent when you talk about kisame and itachi, itachi is REALLY STRONG but he's sort of the 1v1 god of naruto and a raid on the kage summit isn't really him in his element which is the exact opposite for kisame so him playing a much more straightforward and arguably more useful role is very realistic, when some people are so ready to just disregard that because of how strong itachi is and just gloss over it like "they steamroll, itachi carries, moving on" and probably even forget kisame is there too
I appreciate that a lot 🙏🏻 thank you for the kind words!
Yooo this is probably my favorite video you’ve ever dropped, you really did everyone justice imo.
I’m a pro Kakuzu downplayer and I want him to be stronger but being a base Naruto victim at this point in the series is…BAD (true he was taken off guard, but even if naruto doesn’t really have “power cliffing” like other shonen even base Sasuke is stronger than that Naruto). It was great to see someone actually talk about Sasori’s actual scaling and not like, 5th grade level reading comprehension of his fight w/Chiyo and Sakura. I think Chiyo did in fact battle Hanzo and not just in a contest of poison, but you already know that I don’t think that actually puts her above sannin level. Sasori and Deidara I agree wouldn’t even set foot in that room normally, but the duo are really hindered by the Raikage being the very first opp in the room (which, btw, insane that Sasuke had to fight the second strongest Kage first in the gauntlet).
Mei and Gaara would get clapped by the artist duo but the Raikage is TOO fast and strong. At best they use AoE to clear the room and clap C & Darui and run but Sasori being Gaara+ and Deidara being sub-Gaara to sub Onoki level in the air means they eventually get ganged up on and beaten up weather it’s by Onoki or the Raikage once he catches up to them.
I don’t really put any stock into the Boruto stuff for Satetsu being weak to Raiton and iirc Shinki clashed with purple lightning later (and do we really need to give Raiton more advantages over other elements 💀 wtf is wrong with these authors). Itachi and Kisame clear, Itachi is way too strong and fast with his Susanoo and his genjutsu, might be edgy but imo every Kage is a super water shark bomb victim.
And Pain. He’s pretty strong, but he’s not KCM level speed, so he’d probably lose to Chojiro (💀). Jk, Pain wipes his ass with the 5 Kage. Raikage is a Preta path victim and there’s 0 evidence base Ay can actually get out of a Preta path full nelson that was restraining Sage Naruto. The Deva, Preta, and Animal paths together could honestly solo the summit.
Do you remember me?
Valid takes btw
Based horse as usual.
Ohnoki would beat pain since he destroyed like 10 of Madaras Susanos in one attack, people tend to forget just how insane he is. Unless you can convince me pre kcm Naruto was capable of his feats lol.
@@donaldtrumplover2254 very impressive feat, but hear me out.
Pain will absorb the attack. And the old man isn’t living a chaotic almighty push.
@@___________0Z0X Well Ohnoki did survive both a slice from the perfect Susano and a meteor falling on him while heavily fatigued. Particle style can be absorbed sure, but if he is smart and fast enough to hit 10 Madara clones with susano than he could probably hit the paths of pain pretty easily. He also blitzed ms Sasuke who was pretty fast at that point. And once hit, the paths of pain cannot come back since they get disintegrated. I think Ohnoki just counters pain in too many ways. The only person I could see beating him at the kage summit is Obito, and we know he isn’t fighting.
Kisame Itatchi is really just problems😂
Pain uses Almighty push followed by a Chibaku, it's over and they probably wouldn't even know what hit them. 😂
U should do a kage aid Vs battle like tournament ish thing
Foo & Tarune Vs Kankuro & Temari
Ao & Chojuro Vs Darui & C
Ofc put the stone team in the mix like maybe after the winner of one of these matchups or something like that
I could def cook something like that
Darui wins singlehandedly. Well stone team can compete tho but Darui’s team should win
I see what you did there with Raikage and Hinata at 13:26. That was hilarious.
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TG be researching interesting things fr 👀
Bro that's hilarious that you snuck that in. I completely didn't notice that
I dont get it :(
@@manny9191 That's because he put the wrong timestamp. It's at 13:17.
I got one for you. What if Madara and Obito switched battlefields during the war arc?
I got a vid planned where I swap around all the War Arc battlefields so I def can cook that
Bro with Pain, it's not the summit at risk, Pain clears the Land of Iron in a day.
Kisame can use water to project a wheel that reflects itachis eyes in a larger image on the other side n catch everyone Genjutsu at the same time
Thats a crazy good point, that would be genius
Imagine if:
•Deidara creates explosive birds that surround the kage summit
•While Sasori has 3rd Kazekage poison/ iron sand them
• explode the birds while they try to escape 🤔
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They ain't smart or stealthy enough for that lmao
@@donaldtrumplover2254they arnt stealthy enough for that. Mean while, takes out the sand village defences without a single person noticing.
@@mryellow6918 there are too many strong and smart people around the kage summit. It wouldn’t just be sand village chunin fodder. And this plan also includes surrounding the area with chakra bombs, unlike just sneaking into the sand village.
The moment Danzō hears about itachi tho….
He’s outta there.. like 👍 instantly 😂
He put Itachi under Genjutsu 😂😂😂 lot. Koto.
@@Pain-106lol all you have to do to counter that is get kisame to be like blud why are you fighting me.
@@mryellow6918 What if Danzo put Itachi under genjutsu and stap kisame with Totsuka 🤣🤣🤣🤣 .
@@Pain-106 as soon as you realise that you're under the genjutsu you can instantly break out from it all it's good for is a suggestion. Like it's not gonna let you just go kill your duo because you'd never do it.
@@mryellow6918 If you can counter Enemies All ability and enemy can't counter your then it's Gg bro... If you're under koto genjutsu you can't even realise that you're under genjutsu....
The mei downplay is crazy she isn't the highest stat wise but I wouldn't give Kisame an instant W as Mei dies have tempature control which reached the point of melt Sasuke's Susanoo. Onoki can also sweep his partie style if called for. If he reacts fast enough he can disintegrate the water before it builds up
She would not be able to do it in that room as all the Kage are present, like in the original fight. Lava style is def the best attribute or you say she maybe boils any water used.
@@ThunderGodTG Fair I do wonder if she would act differently knowing it's Kisame. Danzo would target Itachi if he showed up as Izanagi would be more effective on a dying Itachi.
@@keve5534nah danzo would dip faster that the sharingan can perceive
@@mryellow6918 Not necessarily Itachi especially would be a loose end he would want tied up. The summit with it's guard would be the best oppurtunity to dispatch of him especially with Izanagi being really bad for itachi who would still be dying at this time.
How do you think Itachi and Orochimaru would have done?
They would honestly body
@ThunderGodTG I think so too, tbh
itachi is enough, the fact that he ended up with kisame is unfair
TG Thank you for this Video and also I think that Itachi and Kisame would actually manage to clear through the entire Summit although that is probably contentious.
I feel like the argument of close space in Sasori, Diedara is moot. They'd change the landscape somehow.
The Kage are so lucky that the Akatsuki were written out of the story as quickly as possible, otherwise the 4th great Ninja War would have had a different ending
All i can say is poor Deidara. C1 will get negged by lightning cloak and he can't use C2 to C4 because they're in an enclosed environment. Here's my takes on this.
- Hidan and Kakuzu: Gets stomped by the Raikage
- Sasori and Deidara: Sasori carries Deidara in the Raikage fight, and both of them IMO are enough to beat Danzo, especially Sasori who can win in a single hit. Danzo will have to use Izanagi in order to not die from the poison. So Sasori have to hit Danzo ten times and i thunk he can manage that with the help of Deidara.
- Itachi and Kisame: Kisame will constantly feeding Itachi chakra so he won't get exhausted. They'd go through the Raikage, Kisame would absorb Raikage's lightning armor, Mai's lava style and vapor style, and Onoki's particle style. I think they'd be fine. Against Danzo is just not fair for him. The duo beats him.
- Pain and Konan: Pain carries. Period.
In character it honestly might be more likely for Deidara to just cheese the Raikage and run away. Deidara would use a clay clone to fake out a Kamekaze which tricked even the sharingan of Kakashi and Sasori could fill the room with poison smoke clouds and collapse the pillars if he had to but in character he’d want to fight the Raikage. Sasori is closer to the Raikage than Deidara is but even just his base lightning chakra mode is a monstrous force. It’s really a tall order for anyone to beat him S rank or not especially with his speed.
Pain hype is as crazy as music in that section. My opinion on Pain vs Itachi is changing too often xD fenomenal video man, every section well explained
Itachi kills him
@@mcfcDJ51 Why?
@@mcfcDJ51Itachi dies of chakra exhaustion against a chakra tank like Nagato. Even if he uses Susano, he is not defeating all 6 paths before he gets exhausted or blind and dies.
@@mcfcDJ51shitachitards 🤡
Itachi can't even find Nagato. He couldn't win even if he took out more Pains than Jiraiya did. He'd have to retreat.
the way kakuzu, sasori and kisame continue to gain so many new arguments is funny to me 😂
Agendas gotta get pushed
@@ThunderGodTGbtw TG what happened to your yujiro hanma vs sasuke retrievel team video i can't find it for some reason
I didn’t like it took it down
@ThunderGodTG that video was fire though!
This is what I have to say about Gaara. I agree he’s not as fast as Raikage, however, Kishimoto wrote him into the story to be defensive, and relevant at every point of the story with that ability. That inherently increases his speed honestly just as startlingly as Sasuke increases his during the show, even if that wasn’t the intent.
Before watching the video Itachi / kisame …. Would take this with a lil difficulty. Pain and the angel of death wins hands down too
I like that you gives props to kakuzu where possible. I do wish he stook around longer.
Deidara is definitely a wild card 🤣
13:17 best couple ever
The only pair that would win here are itachi and kisame. Kisame is the equivalent of a tailed beast (he's called that for a damn reason) and actually counters a lot of the kage sitting there at the table. Itach is just broken af if we are considering he's not in his weakened state. In fact, in Naruto Itachi would EASILY be in the top 10 strongest in the Narutoverse if not for him being heavily nerfed. It wouldn't even be a contest. Even nerfed, we saw what a premature Susanoo could do, imagine what a mature one like Itachi's could do who has a sealing sword and a shield that blocks all attacks. It's not even up for debate.
Edit: I completely forgot about pain. When you factor in the fact that he is killing sannin with relative ease and in his fight against Naruto he was HEAVILY nerfed. Yea I don't think pain even needs a partner here. I can solo all the Kage just like Madara did. Wtf are they going to do about it?
Yo TG awesome video man and can you do kashimo hajime vs minato namikaze
Kashimo is country level in ap
hey das i’ll add you what’s your user
none of my comments were going thru for some reason
@@whoizray_ it's A.S.D
@@whoizray_ youtube being youtube i guess
@@whoizray_ I tried sending my discord link but it doesn't go through for some reason
How well would Sasori and Orochimaru perform. Since I do think they there partners then Orochimaru was part of the Akatsuki.
God tier video 👍 Absolutely flawless. Bro out here solo dunking godly topics like this is crazy 🔥
Honestly raikage speed blitzing ms sasuke is a lot more impressive than I ever realized till now.
Just ordered a pizza on a Friday afternoon, perfect timing!
Sasori and Deidara easily clear the Raikage. What is most likely going to happen is Sasori assassinates and disables Darui and C silently. Then Deidara and Sasori team up to fight the Raikage. This environment is actually great for Sasori because of all the human puppets and infiltration he can do with the samurai and fodder ninjas. Additionally Deidara is his equal. Kisame considers him one of the strongest members of the Akaktsuki. Deidara has shown some of the best usage of clones and substitution. And he also has the hiding underground earth style technique. Raikage being able to take both of them on at the same time is unlikely. His lightning is not the same as Sasuke's lightning, no where near as versatile. It also took time before Sasuke figured out to defuse the bombs and Raikage can't see the nano bombs and would 100% be fooled by the "dud" effect. C4 along with the poison sand and the superior intelligence would just be too much for the Raikage. The Raikage was being dumb vs Sasuke but he probably would act dumb here too considering its in character and they are from the same organization that sparked the whole summit and took his brother. I would say if they ran the gauntlet as a duo the way Sasuke did, they would probably actually defeat the Raikage before Gaara comes in. Then they would beat Gaara's squad easily as well. Then they would probably lose to Mei and Ohnoki's squad working as a team. Assuming Deidara doesn't nuke the place lol.
Bro literally in-character diedara and Sasori, they would walk that entire situation, by nuking it before hand. But, even as you said, they are very versatile in what they can do, especially when working together, they are both terrorist ninja, they are used to taking out entire villages and squads of people, this would be the perfect situation for them
But if all 5 kage are together pain & Konan are finished ohnoni can counter pain chibaku tensei and universal pull is perfect for raikage cuz he’s a close combat fighter so he can instantly blitz pain
i think kakuzu can handily overwhelm the fifth mizukage, and certainly hold his own vs gaara at least. onnoki's dust release however is a perfect counter to kakuzus arsenal though
Is Sasori potentially an Uzumaki? Red hair and sizeable chakra reserve controlling 100 puppets?!
no
Dude your entire analysis is chef’s kiss! Spot on across the board
Thank you!
That thumbnail is SICK 😆😆🔥🔥🔥
The thought of Kisame turning the Summit into an aquarium is freaking hilarious 😂
Plus Pain sweeping the summit. Legendary analysis my friend!
Thank you sir!
This man is using music from the Bakugan Battle Brawlers video game🤣🤣
We do enjoy peak out here
Itachi and kisame absolutely clears five kage sumit, think about it. Obito literally expected sasuke to do so because he thought that freshly awakened ms sasuke should be on itachis level thats why he sent sasuke to the summit so sasuke could clear the summit and obito could take kages hostages so infinit tsukuyomi would go smoothly, anyone who watched the show knows it...
Loved the vid , an Akatsuki duo vs Peak Hokage would also be a nice video
All the hokage? Naruto, Hashirama, and 9 tails Minato stomp any duo.
Tobirama normally I don't think can beat Pain/Konan and Itachi/Kisame unless he is allowed to use reanimations. Tobirama could probably take down Itachi/Kisame due to his experience fighting the sharingan and his high level water style which is comparable to Kisame.
We don't know how strong prime Hiruzen was, but old Hiruzen clears Kakuzu/Hidan, most likely loses to everyone else. I don't see how he could win vs deidara long range and c4 and sasori poison vs puppets. Old hiruzen loses to everyone else. Prime hiruzen with more chakra could summon clones and bombard Deidara/Sasori puppets with high level ninjutsu to likely win. Still loses to the other duos.
Tsunade is interesting here. With Katsuyu, power, healing, and Byakugou seal, she has a LOT of durability and can fight a battle of attrition which can probably win her some match ups.
Against the immortal duo, Tsunade clears. We've seen her take Orochimaru's attack to the heart and heal it with byakugou seal. Even if Hidan hits her with the curse, she isn't dying to him. She punches and katsuyu acid destroys Hidan. Kakuzu is the problem. His armor has an unknown limit to normal damage. He tanked the 2 tails attack so it's possible he can tank Tsunade's punches. However, in a battle of attrition like this and her amazing evasion techniques, she's going to drain (😳) Kakuzu's chakra before she ever goes down herself. Any attack he throws at her will be tanked and not to mention katsuyu will help her out vs the mask things.
Vs the artist duo is interesting. Can her byakugou seal tank Deidara's C4 and Sasori's poison? Perhaps the poison but I doubt the C4. Tsunade's only long reach abilities is Katsuyu spraying acid, throwing boulders at him or her using Katsuyu as a launching point which are all reasonable attacks to hit deidara. She can always hide inside Katsuyu to avoid the C4.
Vs sasori, she can tank/avoid all his attacks and crush any puppet he throws at her. Vs kazekage puppet will look similar to how Sakura fought it. This matchup is tricky to tell who wins, so I give it 50/50.
Vs the other duos she loses. She can immune Itachi's genjutsu but can't do anything to susano. Kisame absorbs her chakra and Katsuyu gets sealed by totsuka blade. No explanation for Pain.
Hokage Kakashi loses every matchup except the immortal duo. He lost chidori and sharingan, but it's stated he is way stronger than before due to more chakra. Purple lightning can counter Kakuzu's armor and he can use any of his 1,000 jutsu to destroy his mask things. He fared really well vs them as a Jonin, and as a Hokage he clears them (especially with his previous knowledge of fighting them).
DMS Kakashi clears any duo
Deidara missed the opportunity to make bombs using poisoned iron sand as fragmentations. Who would imagine.
What has ur editor got going on at 32:00 😭
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Your content has def elevated in the last couple of years. keep up the good work my boy.
Thank you!
29:45 bro what game is this?
Love the Kisame stuff!
Darui is kind of being slept on, good video idea Darui vs Kisane
He’s pretty strong just not as stronger I would go into it but I have to get into the Gink/Kink fight which I have a solo vid on
9:02 wait wtf.
Man, imagine how pissed pain and konnan would be when they see danzo😂
4th raikage was on par with kcm1 in speed and one punch sent him flying
4th raikage speed is enough
How about orochimaru and sasori. and deidara and Tobi.
This is going to be absolute fire (pun intended). Great video.
Mei was capable of dissolving Susano'o though, I think with that, it would at least make Itachi hesitate using Susano'o. Even with the Yata Mirror, she'll still overheat Kisame's water domain. This would still dissolve most parts of the Susano'o and literally cook both Kisame and Itachi because they have no counter to that other than genjutsu. Which, Itachi is already focusing genjutsu on Ay, there's nothing he can do to Mei.
Always love to see that kisame respect…
Plus imagine a combo of
Obits, Itachi and pain pulling up 💀
they getting bodied hy talk no jutsu. all 3. naruto wins
these 3 being in one organization together isnt fair at all they could solo every living character before the hokage got brought back
Shisui said he couldn’t be hit when he used body flicker bc he had no mass but his attacks hit bc everything has mass.. if A uses body flicker is it the same for him? Just wondering
Id like to point out light has no mass but can be hit.
sorry first off great video but at 47:42 and prior is that the bakugan battle brawlers game subterra arena music playing in the back because that has had my attention trying to figure it out?
You didn’t mention how the yata mirror can negate jinton too. And Kisame can probably get so swole from the lightning armor too. Itachi and Kisame are BEASTS. They probably clear mid dif tbh.
1.Gagan
2.Manni
3.Satnam
4.Lagi
5.Raja
6.Koki Fufar
Not sure if you've thought about this, but can you do one with each Akatsuki duo vs. the Gold and Silver Brothers?
He has 4 kids
This is exactly what I needed to help me to get through cleaning my cats litter box! Lol
PEAK CLEANING VIBES
Raikage is single handedly bodying everyone of them besides pain and tobi. Raikage is stronger than Bee and Bee is stronger than sasuke and sasuke is stronger than itachi and itachi is stronger than all of them besides pain and tobi. End of convo haha. None of them are beating pain or tobi. The only way they do that is if they jump them, than its ggs 😂😂
People must understand that itachi and Kisame are way above sanins,also alive itachi(sick)is not beating Kisame prime
Ohnoki cant hit kisame with his jutsu in water,also he can drown everyone here.
Kisame and Itachi>>>
Thansk for reading
Itachi is faster or as fast as Ay bare minimum. Not using his feats against KCM. He still has DS Kabuto feats with the Scattering White Rage. The dragon is photons and Itachi outspeeds it.
34:03 kisame can give itachi all the chakra he absorbed with Samehada, like Samehada did with Bee. They are a very good duo just bc they are very different from each other and one compensate for the other’s weakness
Raikage Ay literally one shotted kisame and he couldn’t even react itachi would get blitz extremely badly and killed if ge engaged the raikage. Sasuke only survived because of amateratsu armored susanoo.
Maybe cut back on the still images with flashing lights? As someone with a seizure disorder I can assure you that it'd be appreciated.
....Watches video, complains its not a power point.
Imagine if kismet puts em all in water prison with a water clone and let's raikage shock all of them at once. Everyone but itatchi and kisame take a hit
I tend to think that Kisame just ran into the kage summit room he’d get hard bodied. Torune Aburame would be disastrous for him. And I’m surprised you didn’t mention Kankuro poisoning the water. Or Mei turning the water into acid.
They all moved away etc etc yeah yeh
10:30 when they say undiminished skill.... I think they were implying her skill with puppet jutsu hasnt went down at all
Revelation 14:12
King James Version
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Kisame floods Raikage...Raikages Lightning Armor will zap everyone in that "fish tank".
Late reply, but I don't actually think Sasori would nessacarily beat Gaara, Gaara is like the perfect counter to Sasori's tactics (with one potential exception): Sasori heavily relies on poison to take out enemies, which is gonna be useless vs Gaara who can block everything with sand: Even against the 100 puppets, there's not really anything they can do to get through Gaara's defenses if he totally hunkers down in a sand shell/sphere. The only thing Sasori can maybe do is use the Iron sand to dig/work it's way through Gaara's own sand, and I'm not even sure that would work. That said, Deidera CAN blow holes in Gaara's defenses, so 2v1 he's washed
I also think Onhki is consistently underestimated here: If all or most of the other Kage are taken out, nothing is stopping him from flying out of the building and de-atomizing the entire area with particle style. Only characters who can really deal with that would be Itachi (with the yata mirror, maybe), pain (possibly with alimighty push or the preta path), and Konan (if she disassembles herself fast enough, doubtful, though I think you're also underselling her here: she can presumbly mix in sealing tags or even summoning paper with her paper, not just bombs, plus make different paper constructs: if she can make butterflies and knives and lances, she can do other things, too)
I wish regular ninjutsu wasn't useless by the end of the war. It would've been cool to see how strong Tobirama's water style actually is considering what weaker characters like kisame and suigetsu are able to do.
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theres no way around it...nobody is touching Itachi. Itachi would just sit back and watch Kisame go to work.
Itachi was skill and precision (hated fighting ended fights fast)
Kisame was power and ruthlessness (loved fighting loved dragging fights on)
"Its gonna be like that SMG Manta level" Well yeah Gaara's fucked then 😂 Edit: Kisame could also give Itachi some Chakra to top him back off if he sees Itachi is winded. The only catch with completely demolishing the place is that Obito wanted at least some of the Kage taken as hostages. So Pain probably would not resort to blowing up the entire summit and then Obito showing toward the end for hostages makes it low diff for both Itachi and Pain's group
Kisame or Itachi can both overcome the raikage very easily. We can compare the speed of 4 rai and B when the two of them compete with each other using lariat - a move that combines footwork and hand movements. As a result, B (normal form) won. That proves that B's footwork is no worse than 4 rai, and in terms of reaction speed, B pushed 4 rai away from minato's attack and was capable of resisting minato's level 2 FTG. Meanwhile, B's speed in eight-tailed chakra mode cannot surpass samehada, and B in basic form cannot hit or catch up with Itachi. That proves that both Kisame and Itachi are much faster than the 4 raikage
I will say this one thing. I actually doubt Itachi could pull off a tsukuyomi on the raikage. Only because itachi is known for his genjutsu so i seriously doubt raikage is going to challenge Itachis genjutsu. Also judging off of how long it actually took for the raikage to get caught in a genjutsu verses madara i doubt itachi catches him. Raikage faught 5 full human form susannos with 1 hand from madara with hashirama cells. Fighting one incomplete sussano is not going to be enough to catch him. I believe that the raikage by himself could definitely stall long enough for gaara to get there and even the odds.
Tho the only way i see itachi catching raikage in a genjutsu is if he maybe looses concentration on his fight with itachi because kisame is about to kill darui. But even then i think max speed raikage is fast enough to intercept. And although itachi is no scrub and wouldnt get perception blitzed by raikage i doubt he could stop the raikage from intercepting kisame at full speed while he is still sick.
I actually have raikage and gasra coming out slightly on top and forcing itachi and kisame to retreat due to the fact that itachi pulling out the sussano would have attracted the other kages attention and there is no way that kisame and itachi ate taking on danzo, onoki, A and Gaara at the same time.
Another thing i think you missed is that the raikage actually prevents kisame from flooding the room. Because if he does he put everyone in danger of being electrocuted. The water alone doesn't drain chakra, but the shark bombs due. The moment kisame even tried to dive in the water with raikage basically being an open circuit, he dies. I dont think kisame is dumb enough to do that to himself. Nor would itachi let him. That basically limits kisames moveset to swordsmanship and chakra stealing. Mei is actually a hard counter to kisame flood the room. Since her lava style pretty much prevents that. You cant drown everyone in the summit because they could simply break the building and let the water out. What do you mean "what is anyone gonna do" thats the simplest solution ever. On top of that Onokis stone golem can stall itachi sussano long enough to vaporize Itachi and itachi would know that. Itachi would never pull up on the 5 kage to begin with he isn't dumb like Sasuke. The 5 kage were boxing with madara. The dont imply that any training was done between the 5 kage summit and the war so its safe to assume they are the same strength.
I think raikage holds out long enough for gaara to get there and then they hold oit long enough to force kisame and itachi to retreat.
Saying that raikage isnt faster than pain is like saying kcm1 Naruto wouldn't speed run the pain arc. Thats preposterous. The only reason he had trouble with Sasuke is because Sasuke put up a sussano encased in amaterasu flame but Sasuke was going to get destroyed. Did we just forget that there is a 5 seconds interval between pushes. Are we just going to assume raikage and Onoki stands still for 5 seconds in-between every push? Every path but the deva path is getting speed blitzed immediately. What are missiles doing to lightning armor? What are dogs doing to the raikage? He would walk past all those dogs like they were moving in slow motion. Raikages reaction speed is Minato lvl. It's made very clear that lightning cloak is way faster than sage mode in sage Naruto vs the third raikage. The only reason Naruto could perceive the third is because of sage modes danger sense. Pain gets put on notice by raikage. The only win con i see for pain is planetary devastation.
Then with Onoki and gaara there to konan isn't a problem.
Gaara vs konan
Onoki, raikage, danzo vs pain
Mei is pretty useless here tho😂.
Thank u for specifying the speed in the beginning of the video its relly not something that should have to be explained ppl should have enough iq points to understand but unfortunately we still have this poor logic being used to make these schizophrenic arguments
But if Kisame would flood the whole summit wouldn’t that also affect Itachis battle prowess? I mean he is not a fish and cant move faster in the water then everyone else. Also his fire style wouldn’t be a factor anymore.
Im actually curious as to whether onoki does even beat kisame in the flood scenario. Obv Onoki is fast but is a fused kisame in water getting tagged with particle style?
We all know Itachi would be going straight to Danzo and just tell Kisame ta deal with his lackies.Danzo put my man thru so much shit he'd be thinking blindness is worth it and taking Danzo on a trip to the nightmare realm.
Deidara and Sasori are more likely to die and take others with them. Both of them use Jutsu that essentially poison the enemy. Raikagu might be immune to Deidara's bombs that get absorbed into the body, but Sasori's poisons should kill him, but not instantly and before he dies, he 1v2s.
"who would win in a fight" is stupid in fiction.
Sasuke went from getting humiliated by bee to mauling the entirety of the kage. like it's just stuff people made up and having non canonical discussions about what would happen in this situation or that is completely useless because these aren't real people with real feats. they are make believe