My one big problem with FO76 is your settlement. If someone that's already logged in on the server your logging on to has a settlement built on or near where your settlement is then your settlement is blocked, meaning you have to re-log in until you find a server where no ones built on your site or you have to move your settlement or play without your settlement. It's taken me over a half dozen re-logs to get my settlement.
Fallout 76 and Fallout 4 are very different in many ways. Which is better? Well, until Bethesda remade F76 from the dumpster fire it was at launch, the answer was easy. I abandoned F76 for years,, and only recently decided to give it another go, and I must say it is not the same game it was. I actually enjoy playing it now even though it has a few things about it I don't like. As with F4 there is the open world aspect to play. I just love that kind of nonlinear freedom in Fallout. It's very immersive. But the two games are very different in some important ways. First, F76 is online. That means eventually Bethesda will pull the plug. Granted that it's not going to be any time soon, but it is inevitable. I like owning my games. Second, Fallout 76 is like a huge amusement park where you have a limited pass and you have to share that world with a bunch of strangers unless you opt for a subscription. The game arena is already crowded with NPCs, and to have to share that space with other players who often end up stepping on each other is just annoying. I like single player RPGs, so I pay a little extra each month for the privilege of private play. And lastly I don't like the grind in Fallout 76. It's just there to slow down the play, and to make you feel like you have accomplished something for that ever so addictive serotonin hit. Maybe that is the way it works for some people, but I'm just left feeling frustrated. The perk system is overly complicated, fast travel costs caps, and when you buy some items in the Atomic Shop all you are getting is the privilege of building them, and then you can't even use them unless your rank is high enough. Still, all said I can truthfully say I enjoy the game now even though it gets under my skin sometimes. Fallout 4 is a great game. In fact it's so good that I have played it to death. I've been everywhere and done everything a million times. I like the moral quandaries given in the story line which teach the player that in this game as in real life the choices we are given are not always between good and bad, but more often between bad and worse. That kind of story telling appeals to me. Some players like the combat, but I enjoy the story a lot more. Combat is inevitable because conflict is inevitable in Fallout. Factions at cross purposes make combat and loyalty key issues in how the story unfolds. But that story has been told a thousand times and in as many ways, and Fallout 76 is still as yet primarily unexplored by this player.
Hey there. I could t have said it beter myself. Thank you for your great insights and sharing your knowledge with the community. Yes, they are both very different games, with a unique charm to both playing types. I also like the single player exploration.
I feel like its a comparison between oranges and apples. Both are fruit. Both are tasty and good on a hot day. But dig a bit down past a few layers there are stark differences and require slightly different mindsets to wrap yourself around, as per many of your examples. I have way more hours clocked in 76, and I think it has a lot to do that playing with friends and members of the community (and other creators!) really makes my experience worthwhile. You can't get that in any of the standalones.
when bethesda said fallout 4 will get a next gen update at the time i thought they would give it the Skyrim treatment and for creation club i thought they would've brought some f76 weapons and armor to f4 creation club but the next gen update became a flop for me
For me its easily Fallout 4. Simply because I am a singeplayer type of gamer. I like Fallout 76 way more then in the beginning though ^^ Fallout 3 and FNV still unbeaten but I played Fallout 4 for hundreds of hours and hopefully hundreds more with Fallout London.
@@MEDIUMgamez-JordanCockburn If I needed to download a mod for Fallout 4 just to read what my character was going to say. I think that is kind of a disconect. Than that the main character was voiced. In all the other games, your main character does not speak. You see the words and read them in your head, it becomes an internal dialog insted. The 4 wheel dialog system seems limited and the way it was set up was: Yes, Yes, Sarcastic Yes, I will be back later, the game never offered a No option. In F3 you where in the backseat of the whole game. First it was your Father that mattered. Than it was Lee, than Lyons. Even to this day I cannot get why you can't just join the Enclave, I still do not get why the super mutant companion can just go into the radioactive chamber and punch in the code for you, sure there is a mod for that. One other thing with F3 the speech checks, didn't mater how high speech skill you had, if you just droped a quicksave, than pressed it, sooner or later, you hit the right procent and past it. F4 you where looking for your kid, also another settlement needs your help, I have marked it on your map. Dog meat always meet you at that quest when you needed dog meat, even if you never picked up the dog. Valentine still says what about your dog, and dog meat is there. A cool thing that was never picked up, why did you only hear nick talk like he was Kelog once and it was never touched apon after that? It was kind of intressting, also speaking to the Father and asking him what is up with the synths replacement, he says you will not understand. A massive cop out. On a diffrent note. Why was there a vault where a bunch of drug users, got clean, than a stash of drugs got opened up and all od, they have Jet. But boy wonder made the Jet, it is a post war invention so how did it get into the vault? Compare that to FNV, go and ask Cesar what his motivation is, he will give it to you. F76 was fallow the overseers holotapes, find holotapes, something, something zombies? the scurge or whatever it was called. F76 made me irriated over all the retcons, like why are they using bottle caps, on the East coast so soon after the bombs drop? The Hub was the reason why bottle caps was a thing, it was a thing that the merchants used. Like a decade after the Hub was founded. BOS being on the East coast, they flyed there in vertibirds. But at the time, BOS was in their bunker on the West coast. That whole ordeal feels off to me. So if BOS had access to vertibirds, why did they walk all the way to the East coast in the first place, also how can they goten the birds, before they stole the plans from the Enclave. Than the Enclave does not look so fresh at all in later Fallout games. In F76, BOS is there, but no Enclave what I know of. But that is odd to me, after all their main base, the oil rig is still around at that time, Ravenrock is still around and that place is far closer.
@EcardEcardian hey yeah I do get what you are saying in your comparison and I totally get it. You are extremely clued up when it comes to this Franchise so thank you for sharing your views with our community 😀
@@MEDIUMgamez-JordanCockburn Indeed. Im the type that remembers a lot of things when it comes to Fallout. That kind of happens when you are invested in something. I do not think Bethesda is the best custodian for the Fallout ip. Bethesda didn't get what Fallout was about, Bethesda seems to think it is retro future after an nuclear apocalypse, Fallout 1 is a post apocalypse game, Fallout 2 is post post apocalypse game, Fallout new Vegas is post post post apocalypse game. In this three games, you see the end of human civilisation and the hardships of recreation of civilisation. What pains me the most is that Bethesda's writing staff is not the best one. Most of the ip I have enjoyed played. Are dead as a door nail or bought up by people that does not respect the ip or do not understand the thing that makes the ip ticks.
Overall, I don't think any of said games deserve to be called good. They are okay-ish at most, not sure if even decent after so many updates and fixes. Don't get me wrong, it is possible to find something good within them, but in the end, both are lazy products. I don't know much about the F76, but the F4 gives so little, and in exchange, you end up with so many bad design decisions and low quality, far from polished product. In my opinion, asking which one is better is on the same level as asking if diarrhea or constipation is better. I feel like F4, F76, and the show are mostly fuelled by hype and rich lore, but in the end they're done lazy.
Haha. I loved this comment. I do see your point, and yes one could argue they could be so much better with a little more time and expertise but we I'm just working with what we have got.
@@MEDIUMgamez-JordanCockburn You know, it's just a money thing. The Fallout series and lore are overall great, literally a golden chicken, duck, or goose (however you want to call it) from the perspective of big company. They took it and made it their own; sadly, they focused more on hype and the blunt cool factor instead of keeping the quality at least good (it doesn't have to be the best, but at least decent). I might be just complaining, but seriously, look at the design of Fallout 4: You get a hero with a fixed background who wants to be a sandbox (RPG) character with full freedom of choice. In the first 20 minutes of the game, you get power armor and a minigun, which is literally a cool factor over gameplay. They had to nerf both power armor and miniguns to make it semi-work. Ah, right, and also, deathclaws are nerfed too. You're supposed to fear them until the endgame. Weapons. They look awful. Almost none of them would work in real life. It feels like someone just decided that the bulkier the weapon, the cooler. Dialogues. It's not even cool in any way, just lazier, and I don't understand why they made it like this. It's just awful. Downgrade. Power Armor. It's nerfed. Now, instead of the mid-end game thing, you basically start with it. But we have to deal with fusion cores lasting less than the taste of jewing gum. If they had more time to implement things like weapons that can be used only with power armor and overall add a little more mechanics to it instead of simply upgrading it's stats, which is cool and a nice thing but could have been better given enough time. Factions. They're as deep as my wrinkles when I met with the disappointment of what they offer and their story. You can become a general of Minutmen, which is great. Now go save a settlement, because they can't even wipe their own asses without help. You have basically zero influence as their leader (or a very important member). I like settlements, but I don't want to babysit them all the time. In the end, no matter what position you get within any faction, you have neither power nor influence over them. But Hey! They give you cool stuff, like another piece of power armor to throw into a pile or access to flying shooting targets (vertibirds) that are buggy and easily taken down. And sorry, I need to add something about the map. Everything is downscaled so much yet filled with so many places at the same time. Mostly riders, like seriously, how many riders do we actually need, especially in comparison to how many settlements and towns there are, how they even sustain themselves from rides, they are numberous enough to make their own town. I just wish the map was a bit bigger (without stuffing more into it). It's just a cool factor over gameplay and at some point, laziness but at another, not enough time is given to development. Truly a game fuelled by lore, susteined by mods. And sorry for my mumbling and such a large text. I'm just postponing something I don't want to do and, basically, procrastinating.
@@MEDIUMgamez-JordanCockburn Thanks! I just hope that I don't sound too much like a hater. There's no hate coming from me, just disappointment towards Bethesda.
My one big problem with FO76 is your settlement. If someone that's already logged in on the server your logging on to has a settlement built on or near where your settlement is then your settlement is blocked, meaning you have to re-log in until you find a server where no ones built on your site or you have to move your settlement or play without your settlement. It's taken me over a half dozen re-logs to get my settlement.
Ahh yes this can be an absolute nightmare to deal with.
Fallout 76 and Fallout 4 are very different in many ways. Which is better? Well, until Bethesda remade F76 from the dumpster fire it was at launch, the answer was easy. I abandoned F76 for years,, and only recently decided to give it another go, and I must say it is not the same game it was. I actually enjoy playing it now even though it has a few things about it I don't like. As with F4 there is the open world aspect to play. I just love that kind of nonlinear freedom in Fallout. It's very immersive. But the two games are very different in some important ways. First, F76 is online. That means eventually Bethesda will pull the plug. Granted that it's not going to be any time soon, but it is inevitable. I like owning my games. Second, Fallout 76 is like a huge amusement park where you have a limited pass and you have to share that world with a bunch of strangers unless you opt for a subscription. The game arena is already crowded with NPCs, and to have to share that space with other players who often end up stepping on each other is just annoying. I like single player RPGs, so I pay a little extra each month for the privilege of private play. And lastly I don't like the grind in Fallout 76. It's just there to slow down the play, and to make you feel like you have accomplished something for that ever so addictive serotonin hit. Maybe that is the way it works for some people, but I'm just left feeling frustrated. The perk system is overly complicated, fast travel costs caps, and when you buy some items in the Atomic Shop all you are getting is the privilege of building them, and then you can't even use them unless your rank is high enough. Still, all said I can truthfully say I enjoy the game now even though it gets under my skin sometimes.
Fallout 4 is a great game. In fact it's so good that I have played it to death. I've been everywhere and done everything a million times. I like the moral quandaries given in the story line which teach the player that in this game as in real life the choices we are given are not always between good and bad, but more often between bad and worse. That kind of story telling appeals to me. Some players like the combat, but I enjoy the story a lot more. Combat is inevitable because conflict is inevitable in Fallout. Factions at cross purposes make combat and loyalty key issues in how the story unfolds. But that story has been told a thousand times and in as many ways, and Fallout 76 is still as yet primarily unexplored by this player.
Hey there. I could t have said it beter myself. Thank you for your great insights and sharing your knowledge with the community. Yes, they are both very different games, with a unique charm to both playing types. I also like the single player exploration.
I feel like its a comparison between oranges and apples. Both are fruit. Both are tasty and good on a hot day. But dig a bit down past a few layers there are stark differences and require slightly different mindsets to wrap yourself around, as per many of your examples. I have way more hours clocked in 76, and I think it has a lot to do that playing with friends and members of the community (and other creators!) really makes my experience worthwhile. You can't get that in any of the standalones.
Hey there. Yes, I get what you are saying. They are indeed difrent in many ways. Yeah, I haven't put much time into 76 tbh I always defaulted to f4.
when bethesda said fallout 4 will get a next gen update at the time i thought they would give it the Skyrim treatment and for creation club i thought they would've brought some f76 weapons and armor to f4 creation club but the next gen update became a flop for me
Hey yeah, I know what you mean. It was a bit of a missed opportunity for them and would have definitely been welcomed by everyone.
They are both different games, so Different people will prefer different ones. I like them both, especially sicne 76 has updated and added npcs to it.
Mostly it depends on if you want a more social experience or a solo experience.
Hey there. Yes, they are both great games and you are totally right it will depend on your playstyles and what you want to achieve. 😀
76, way better longetivity and more variable gameplay
Hey, thanks for sharing. It's also a good game
For me its easily Fallout 4. Simply because I am a singeplayer type of gamer. I like Fallout 76 way more then in the beginning though ^^ Fallout 3 and FNV still unbeaten but I played Fallout 4 for hundreds of hours and hopefully hundreds more with Fallout London.
Hey there. Thanks for dropping by. Yes, I'm the same I prefer single player. Aw, that will be awsome fallout London.
@@MEDIUMgamez-JordanCockburn Its pretty close now! Fallout Universe is just so interesting. Its the reason why I write about it :) Have a great day!
Hey there. Yes it is indeed. You have a great day also@FalloutTributeMusic
76 can get pretty boring at times but 4 has a lot of quests and stuff you can do and stuff you can find out even after doing dozens of play throughs
Hey, that is correct. We have featured many of the unmasked quests on this channel. Thanks for sharing with the community 🙏
Did they fix anything important? Both games have subpar dialog, story.
Yeah, sometimes the dialog was. But I think in the grand scheme of things, it wasn't as bad as some other games.
@@MEDIUMgamez-JordanCockburn If I needed to download a mod for Fallout 4 just to read what my character was going to say. I think that is kind of a disconect. Than that the main character was voiced. In all the other games, your main character does not speak. You see the words and read them in your head, it becomes an internal dialog insted.
The 4 wheel dialog system seems limited and the way it was set up was: Yes, Yes, Sarcastic Yes, I will be back later, the game never offered a No option.
In F3 you where in the backseat of the whole game. First it was your Father that mattered. Than it was Lee, than Lyons. Even to this day I cannot get why you can't just join the Enclave, I still do not get why the super mutant companion can just go into the radioactive chamber and punch in the code for you, sure there is a mod for that.
One other thing with F3 the speech checks, didn't mater how high speech skill you had, if you just droped a quicksave, than pressed it, sooner or later, you hit the right procent and past it.
F4 you where looking for your kid, also another settlement needs your help, I have marked it on your map. Dog meat always meet you at that quest when you needed dog meat, even if you never picked up the dog. Valentine still says what about your dog, and dog meat is there. A cool thing that was never picked up, why did you only hear nick talk like he was Kelog once and it was never touched apon after that? It was kind of intressting, also speaking to the Father and asking him what is up with the synths replacement, he says you will not understand. A massive cop out.
On a diffrent note. Why was there a vault where a bunch of drug users, got clean, than a stash of drugs got opened up and all od, they have Jet. But boy wonder made the Jet, it is a post war invention so how did it get into the vault?
Compare that to FNV, go and ask Cesar what his motivation is, he will give it to you.
F76 was fallow the overseers holotapes, find holotapes, something, something zombies? the scurge or whatever it was called. F76 made me irriated over all the retcons, like why are they using bottle caps, on the East coast so soon after the bombs drop? The Hub was the reason why bottle caps was a thing, it was a thing that the merchants used. Like a decade after the Hub was founded. BOS being on the East coast, they flyed there in vertibirds. But at the time, BOS was in their bunker on the West coast. That whole ordeal feels off to me.
So if BOS had access to vertibirds, why did they walk all the way to the East coast in the first place, also how can they goten the birds, before they stole the plans from the Enclave. Than the Enclave does not look so fresh at all in later Fallout games. In F76, BOS is there, but no Enclave what I know of. But that is odd to me, after all their main base, the oil rig is still around at that time, Ravenrock is still around and that place is far closer.
@EcardEcardian hey yeah I do get what you are saying in your comparison and I totally get it. You are extremely clued up when it comes to this Franchise so thank you for sharing your views with our community 😀
@@MEDIUMgamez-JordanCockburn Indeed. Im the type that remembers a lot of things when it comes to Fallout. That kind of happens when you are invested in something. I do not think Bethesda is the best custodian for the Fallout ip. Bethesda didn't get what Fallout was about, Bethesda seems to think it is retro future after an nuclear apocalypse, Fallout 1 is a post apocalypse game, Fallout 2 is post post apocalypse game, Fallout new Vegas is post post post apocalypse game. In this three games, you see the end of human civilisation and the hardships of recreation of civilisation. What pains me the most is that Bethesda's writing staff is not the best one. Most of the ip I have enjoyed played. Are dead as a door nail or bought up by people that does not respect the ip or do not understand the thing that makes the ip ticks.
if only the made 76 a game like fallout 4/new vegas the multiplayer part adds nothing for me
Yeah I have to agree I think the single player is awsome 👌
The answer is new Vegas.
Very good point a great game.
76
Hey, thanks for sharing. It is a great game there's no delaying that.
76 has gotten soooooooo much better but 4 still is the better game
Yeah they have made a lot of improvements to get it there. But yes, I do think for me also fallout 4 is the better game.
Fallout 4: more polished
Now review next gen 😂😂
Hahah. Yeah. 🙏
Fall out 76 is a BAD game
@@brianadsersen8968 yeah it does have its flaws
Overall, I don't think any of said games deserve to be called good. They are okay-ish at most, not sure if even decent after so many updates and fixes. Don't get me wrong, it is possible to find something good within them, but in the end, both are lazy products. I don't know much about the F76, but the F4 gives so little, and in exchange, you end up with so many bad design decisions and low quality, far from polished product. In my opinion, asking which one is better is on the same level as asking if diarrhea or constipation is better. I feel like F4, F76, and the show are mostly fuelled by hype and rich lore, but in the end they're done lazy.
Haha. I loved this comment. I do see your point, and yes one could argue they could be so much better with a little more time and expertise but we I'm just working with what we have got.
@@MEDIUMgamez-JordanCockburn
You know, it's just a money thing. The Fallout series and lore are overall great, literally a golden chicken, duck, or goose (however you want to call it) from the perspective of big company. They took it and made it their own; sadly, they focused more on hype and the blunt cool factor instead of keeping the quality at least good (it doesn't have to be the best, but at least decent). I might be just complaining, but seriously, look at the design of Fallout 4:
You get a hero with a fixed background who wants to be a sandbox (RPG) character with full freedom of choice.
In the first 20 minutes of the game, you get power armor and a minigun, which is literally a cool factor over gameplay. They had to nerf both power armor and miniguns to make it semi-work. Ah, right, and also, deathclaws are nerfed too. You're supposed to fear them until the endgame.
Weapons. They look awful. Almost none of them would work in real life. It feels like someone just decided that the bulkier the weapon, the cooler.
Dialogues. It's not even cool in any way, just lazier, and I don't understand why they made it like this. It's just awful. Downgrade.
Power Armor. It's nerfed. Now, instead of the mid-end game thing, you basically start with it. But we have to deal with fusion cores lasting less than the taste of jewing gum. If they had more time to implement things like weapons that can be used only with power armor and overall add a little more mechanics to it instead of simply upgrading it's stats, which is cool and a nice thing but could have been better given enough time.
Factions. They're as deep as my wrinkles when I met with the disappointment of what they offer and their story. You can become a general of Minutmen, which is great. Now go save a settlement, because they can't even wipe their own asses without help. You have basically zero influence as their leader (or a very important member). I like settlements, but I don't want to babysit them all the time. In the end, no matter what position you get within any faction, you have neither power nor influence over them. But Hey! They give you cool stuff, like another piece of power armor to throw into a pile or access to flying shooting targets (vertibirds) that are buggy and easily taken down.
And sorry, I need to add something about the map. Everything is downscaled so much yet filled with so many places at the same time. Mostly riders, like seriously, how many riders do we actually need, especially in comparison to how many settlements and towns there are, how they even sustain themselves from rides, they are numberous enough to make their own town. I just wish the map was a bit bigger (without stuffing more into it).
It's just a cool factor over gameplay and at some point, laziness but at another, not enough time is given to development. Truly a game fuelled by lore, susteined by mods.
And sorry for my mumbling and such a large text. I'm just postponing something I don't want to do and, basically, procrastinating.
Hey, you are Very knowledgeable with the game and your comments are on point 👌
@@MEDIUMgamez-JordanCockburn Thanks! I just hope that I don't sound too much like a hater. There's no hate coming from me, just disappointment towards Bethesda.
@@jacobc2534 hey, yes your frustrations are warented and I'm glad you popped by. 🙏
Fallout 4 original version is better than 76 lmao
Haha. Thanks for sharing
You didn't really play 76 at all, did you?
@@janorszulik6429 I did indeed
@@janorszulik6429 I did, FO4 is the better game. FO76 definitely improved a hell of a lot over time, but 4 is still the better overall game
Yeah, I think they both are good in their own little ways tbf