I think 76 is kinda okay actually. Though I think there could also have been much more done with it, and it's not gonna reach a full potential, it was entertaining.
"...Didnt have endless amount of resources to refer to..." No we got a spiral bound notebook 200+ page manual, including recipes! and maybe a cloth map. :P
That one time a parent buys something randomly because it looked cool and you actually liked it and it was fallout 3 is just amazing. Imagine it was sitting next to some transformers game and he got that instead lol
Was my first Fallout game. I remember it came with a Fallout lunchbox which my friend bought. I watched him playing it then just had to have it for myself. Bought all of the dlc disks as they were released then eventually bought the game of the year edition.
I'm still mindblown by Fallout 2's manual having 1's epilogue, explaining which companions were canon and how they died/survived the events of the first game. Finding out the Vault Dweller canonically recruited Ian, only for him to perish in Necropolis still hurts so many years later.
Even funnier, is that back in the day, everyone hated the tutorial temple. Even leading to mods that let you skip it. Modern players are so used to being spoon fed, that they can't figure anything out by themselves. In the post soviet eastern Europe, we didn't even know a place to buy legit copies of any games, so no manuals. Never struggled with any game mechanics despite of it, or lack of English language skill.
@@panwu6602 Clearly the guy in this video felt positive about it. So it had an audience, just in the future, where gamers are clueless and too lazy to figure anything out themselves.
@@raifthemadgamers nowadays are sooooo clueless omg. I'm not even that old but players of today just cannot understand context clues or realize how mechanics work unless they are extremely simple. Either they need to be told what to do and follow questmarkers like a bot or they get frustrated and leave. I've watched many people new to the franchise (because of the show) trying to play fallout 4 and they are sooo badd (I'd understand if they were like very small children or older people who never played videogames before, but these are young adults that have been playing their entire life, wtfff!!??)
@@maestrofeli4259 what are they even struggling with in fallout 4? It's incredibly hand-holdy and waypoint markers literally tell you exactly where you need to go the entire game
So about your slight criticism of Fallout 2 reusing assets from the first, you're absolutely correct. They did. However, I think it's important that we point out that 2 came out a year after the first game. They made that masterpiece in a year. So I cant even be upset they reused assets.
I feel exactly about Fallout 2, how i feel about X-Com 2: Terror from the Deep - game came out after 1 year of the first one, and its much better, despite looking like a mod of it.
What's also funny about that particular criticism is Fallout 3 is a glorified Oblivion total conversion. There's just as much recycled from Oblivion under the hood.
Try 1 and to some extent 2, although second one is a bit rushed and less serious. None of that low IQ Bethesda writing. I played 3 for 7 hours(tried for a week, but I couldn't stomach more than an hour of that abysmal writing and game design a day before getting physically ill) before I uninstalled it and have never touched any other new "Fallout." I would give NV a try, if it wasn't that garbage Bethesda engine.
@@isaacmartinez2359 Haven't been on that site since FO3 came out. RPGCodex has been more my jam, but these days it has too many modern kiddies for me to visit often.
@@originalnik527 I think I found it but never went there I remember a big city on the otherside of a big river. I was doing other side quest like the synth quest in a very nice small town or in a place with a lot handy robots or killing mutants on big buildings in city I was very close but i think it wasn't Diamond city. That was like 8 years ago.
@@d2zz immersion and atmosphere wise its not better than its three predecessors. if you do value tone of the game, new vegas might feel wrong. for me that's why although way more limited, I prefer fallout 3.
@@andymaritanu7420 it got immersion with the Wild West type music . 🎶 you brought the blues in so I’m moving out 🎶 and they had serious topics like the NcR soldier getting graped by the fiends and the sharecropper farms quest
The reason nobody was responding in game at 25:30 was because you weren't even holding down the voice chat button (It would've said you were in the bottom left)
That’s cause he’s just showing random clips with him and other players while doing the voice over for the video. If you rewatch you’ll notice the volume and his voice is consistent with this video and not chopped up. In other words he’s just pretending to talk to them for the vid.
I loved Fallout 3. As it was my first introduction into the Fallout world and RPG in general. Fallout New Vegas took Fallout 3 and put it on Steroids without losing its Fallout feel, everything improved... theres so much character in that game.
Fallout 3 didn't have the 'Fallout feel' for quite a big part of the game though, that's the issue a lot of people have with it. It's just...it's not Fallout. It's a fanfic with some relation to Fallout universe, but they didn't get the details quite right, the game has that sort of vibe. New Vegas is indeed a greate game since it DOES have the 'Fallout feel', which makes sense since it's made by Obsidian and Obsidian has a large number of ex-Black Isle (creators of Fallout 1 & 2 AND IceWind Dale 1 & 2 AND Planescape: Torment, probably the greatest studio to ever exist, maybe tied to early Bioware, who had Baldur's Gate 1 & 2, Neverwinter Nights, KotoR, Jade Empire and Dragon Age: Origins).
@@cantfindawayout all of the contrary for me. Fallout was all about inmersion, tone and atmosphere, atleast in the original Fallout 1. Fallout 3 its way more consistent in all of these and a much more worthy sequel to the original fallout than new vegas. RPG elements sure, new vegas its much more expanded and that makes it a great game, howrever this alone doesnt make it a fallout game, it doesnt make it a fallout became because obsidian made it. it has a much closer mechanical feel to fallout, sure. but I dont know why people say that new vegas its a closer "fallout" game, has anybody played the original Fallout?. compare it to fallout 3 tone vs new vegas. and fallout 3 its far closer in this aspect (wich for me its a crucial part of what makes fallout)
Fallout 1 and 2 both came in a box with discs and a game manual - booklet, and the booklet told you the controls and basic lore. I think it may have also had a keyboard overlay. I remember playing Fallout 1 and 2 when both first came out 30 years ago. The key was to max out your DEX, or AGI, to 10 to get the most action points. The bigest pain was been block by NPC movement and one first mods as call them today fix this giving you push command
fo3 is a game you fall in love with at first sight, fallout new vegas is a game you come to love over time. I used to love fallout 3 more than new vegas, but the more I played both games the more I realised that fallout new vegas is the vastly superior game.
its got broader, mostly better writing but its also criminally underbaked and doesn't manage to realize everything its trying to. Another year or so getting made and new vegas would undoubtedly be superior. But so much of it's underwhelming. The strips a dud, most of the factions rely on exposition rather than an in world presence, the choices lead into the two same endings. Some better dungeon variety in there but its overworld is lacking. Every good thing has something significantly worse to bring it back down to reality. Hints at a lot of improvements but clear they didn't actually get to bring them to fruition.
For the record, my fave fallout is Fallout 2. Just did another playthrough, super satisfying and super difficult! It's one of those games that I always come back to.
for me i could never get out of the starting area, cuz i had no idea what i was doing. same with daggerfall. but because of daggerfall unity, was able to finally play that, now just have to do FO2 😂
I recall a Tim Cain interview where he would alter that if a “remake” were ever on the table. He talks about it on his UA-cam channel and feels that it kept the player form really exploring the world pre water caravans. Cheers.
wasn't really a count down, if gave you so much extra time that you could go do the glow stuff become part of the brotherhood kill the master and still get the water chip
@@Ybad8 yeah but I don't like the first part of the game being like that. I'm discovering. That's just a preference the story is amazing still but I didn't enjoy that part. I can respectively understand why it's good and also dislike it.
For example Dead Money forces you to play a certain way that is not comfortable but it's an expansion to the game. It's different when it's the main questline and the other is a side quest. I can just save back and not fuck with it right now. See what I mean. You can avoid that element until you want to get into it. Choice
Hello mate , thanks for this wonderfull video of yours . Don't misunderstand me :) but in your ranking system i think Fallout 1 deserves a A tier on this list . My personal opinion about that is Fallout 1 considered back then a B tier project while it's in develeopment process and there were soo less people involved in this project rather than it's competitors back then like Diablo 1 game and other kind of RPG games back then released in that era . They created amazing game with it's low budget and it's almost got cancelled soo many times , it's a kind of miracle that this game released somehow :) . With soo many amazing developers , artists , writers , sound composer , directors and other kind of actors in behind of this project made this universe as unique and beautiful as possible . Ok it has too less game time and has less feature in it but because of it's history , this game deserves definetely A tier :) Fallout 2 is also my greatest game all time , it's good to see my favorite game in S Tier list , i would like to thank your opinion for that .
Fallout 3 is one of my favorite games. This spontaneity in the game plus the random tasks are great. The fact that you were recognized by others based on your actions was so realistic. I just say Oasis
Yeah... I'll take the heat on this one haha I checked my settings, looked online to see if the settings were correct, and most likely it was the area voice - I'll rectify it on stream today
Players of Fallout 1 & 2 didn't have much resources like you said but that had something that most gamers done nowadays, a player manual with the game. Which would help a lot with learning the game outside of playing it
I played fallout 2 a gazillion times over but never had a manual. Don't think I actually bought the game, can't remember how I got it really. But by god was it a journey of discovery. By now I know the game like the back of my own hand.
@@karmehed that is very impressive, much older games almost require it or a lot of force to push through understanding some premises of the game. Which is often what I did when playing rented video games or return the game
Thank you for the kind words man! These ranking videos always take weeks to plan and go through with late nights of editing so it's really nice to hear that, cheers! 🍻
Fallout 4 definitely had fewer safe hub areas and useful resources like caps and ammo, but I think that was on purpose. If you actually do take the time to build up functional settlements, you end up with a lot more of both. I just wish that settlers were more interesting with names and radiant quests, as a lot of that classic charm can only be found in the premade settlements
That's too good to be reality... YOU HEAR ME UNIVERSE! I CHALLENGE YOU! LARIAN REMAKING FALLOUT 1 AND 2 WITH BETHESDA'S BLESSING CANNOT HAPPEN AND IS IMPOSSIBLE!
I like the way you think, but a much more obvious and better better idea is to have Obsidian and InXile who are both part of Xbox do remakes. Both studios were formed by former employees of Interplay. The original developer. Plus, Obsidian made New Vegas already and it is great. So is Wasteland 3 by InXile which is the precursor universe to Fallout. They are totally capable. They could borrow an idea or two from Larian maybe. The other idea would be to collab on first person remakes, although I'd like to see that in Unreal 5.
fallout 2 will always be my favorite. when i nostalgia mode think of fallout it’s always 2. the rest of the games are more like an extension of the dream that could have been. great tier list by the way! i completely agree. only for me would bump 1 and tactics each one tier up, but i understand why they are where they’re at. also mods help the older games for sure
I think if I knew baseline controls from the beginning, 1 might've squeaked into A because the foundation and story of 1 and 2 carry those games so high in my book. Glad you enjoyed!
fallout 2 has the most freedom for the mc. never ever i played a game with this range on what could i be. a dummy with can barely speak, a pornstar/sexworker or a scientist that cant survive without fighter friends.
@@MN-vz8qm i had already been a huge fallout fan, and a massive final fantasy tactics fan so when fallout tactics came out i was like THIS IS MY GAME lol
Fallout New Vegas is one of my games of all time. I loved it when it came out and since the show dropped I’m so glad everyone else also sees how great it was. I don’t remember much of 3, but I’m disappointed 3 doesn’t have factions like NV did. For some reason I thought I remembered 3 having them like NV. Really wish Bethesda would let those guys get another crack at a fallout game. The west coast is the best coast in the fallout world. Loved the Mojave over the Capital wasteland and the Commonwealth.
For real fallout 1 is one of the best while 4 is like C tier as a game, D tier as a fallout game, and personally I’d put it in F because I didn’t really enjoy any of it
Fallout: New Vegas might be my favorite game of all time. I think I’ve played it 5 or 6 times through now and I still don’t get remotely bored from it.
@tenchu3770 TL:DR - NV for RPG, 4 for open world FPS. 4 and NV have different focuses. 4 is more user friendly, but absolutely dog water on lore, story, and basic RPG elements. NV is mediocre at best on gameplay, but quite intriguing on lore, story, and your role in affecting the wasteland (decently focused on RPG elements).
@tenchu3770 Two out of your 3 critiques were about walking around, and your third is correct to a degree, but when you bring up 4 as if it's superior to it when all of FO4's enemies are bullet sponges is laughable. Fallout 4 has the worst scaling in any game I've ever played and the story is complete ass. If you just don't like FNV then that's fine, but don't try and make very superficial critiques about it.
@@joeasuncion2891 NV is incredibly boring. The story isn't that neat considering you have to have very specific specials/perk to unlock the cooler options. Not to mention NV is EMPTY as could be. Of course an unvoiced character feels more in depth when you have a 15 year old brain filling in the blanks, lol.
@@chrisrichards2289 NV is as empty as could be? Holy shit bro, didn't think one guy could be so wrong in one comment. Compare Fallout 3 and Fallout: New Vegas. I can do that because I played both very recently. Fallout 3 is much emptier. Fallout 4 might be "fuller" than New Vegas but Fallout: NV is 5 years older than Fallout 4, and they had less development time and yet...l NV is a pretty damn a full game with a lot of interesting places to see and visit. Fallout: New Vegas story is better than Fallout 3 or Fallout 4 story, though that's almost completely subjective, so I'll leave you to your opinion. And well... your last critique/argument doesn't make the slightest sense in any way, shape or conceivable form, so I won't bother arguing it.
Fallout 1 came with a thick booklet with a bunch of info. No wonder you didn't really like it, you had 6 AP lol. I was 13 when Fallout came out so this is my Fallout 3 in your case, so lots of nostalgia. The B score is fair but it would be an A if you were a kid when it came out :) Overall great video!
If only I had the booklet! 😭 I remember the strategy guides you'd have to buy for certain games way back, but yeah it's definitely hard to go back to. Glad you liked the video!
It should have been an A, regardless. It's the most tonally and thematically consistent game in the entire series, as well as being the only game in the franchise with no extraneous elements
Nah. His review was spot on. This game aged like sour milk. You can't compare it to a game like starcraft that aged so much better. Fo1 had a phenomenonal story but it always was a shitty game
Unpopular opinion, i went back to 76 after about a year and a half and speant probably a year in it. While is def not an S or an A, i think it went from an F to a B/C (dep3nding on the in game event going on)
I totally respect that, I think for me, it's still seeing bugs after all this time like invisible enemies, render glitches, and lag between weapon impact. The CAMP system still needs many improvements and the game is more of a looter shooter than a story-rich game. So that's kind of why it's a D... BUT you might have given me an idea for a video
@@ShaggyMcSwaggyif you want to have fun in Fallout 76 you either need to play with your actual friends or only play the mainstory and ignore the multiplayer aspect completely
@@ShaggyMcSwaggy Some of the bugs enhance the experience. Example: I got attacked by a Deathclaw as a part of a mission. The door opened, deathclaw slid across the room with no moving animation, did a 360 before I got ragdolled and thrown across the room and died. Was too busy laughing my ass off to be angry. 10/10
They really dropped the ball by not having a new Fallout game anytime soon with the show being so successful. Great show, peak popularity, still 8-10 years from a new game
I agree! Many people just gather their own opinions on other people's opinions. I didn't have the best time running it again, but a lot of comments are saying to dive deeper so I'm going to spend the next couple of weeks doing every piece of content the game has to offer.
Yeah I hate it when people blindly hate on the game because they heard their favorite streamer say it was bad or played it 5 years ago. If you were so burned by the release that you don't even want to play it again fine but the people saying that are the same people giving no man's sky praise despite its bad launch.
@@ShaggyMcSwaggy Like you said you have to play it with a friend otherwise you loose the experience and its just a buggy fallout game with silent players running around, playing fallout with friends though....that is still amazing.
I kinda disagree about fo4, maybe ive just played it so many times but caps and respurces never seemed to be a problem, i feel like half the people u kill had a stimpak or some caps
"Players didn't have endless amounts of resources to refer to back in 1997. Actually, they did. Back in 1997, games still shipped with printed manuals, and Fallout's was a spectacular example. I'm sure you can find a PDF somewhere.
Fallout 2 came with a 164 page manual (Vault-Tec Lab Journal).. complete with real recipes for "The Big One" Pancakes and "Carrion Kabobs" in the appendices.
It's amazing how much different megaton looks in your video vs when it was launched. The green haze was so strong you could barely make out any details and had to map marker anything more than 6 feet away
Fallout 2 all the way. Remember finding Fallout 1 in my game store, had no clue what is was,, but it was on a discount so i bought it. Was in love right away, and less than 2 months later Fallout 2 came out, and to me its still one of the best games i EVER played since i started on my Amiga 500 in in early 1989. I played it last a few years back, and yeah for us modern people who has seen what has been made in the last 30 years, it looks and feels a little outdated, but back then it was AMAZING and the Graphic was awesome, and the Voice acting, the world, the story,, the atmosphere and so on....much much more groundbreaking to me, than the small differences between games nowadays. Fallout 1 and 2 got me into Jagged Alliance 1-2, Silent storm and so on...
I'm with you 200% on fallout 3. The atmosphere of the Capitol wastes is the most important aspect of what attracted me to this series. New Vegas made several improvements on fallout 3 but the desert terrain really didn't have that same magic that I felt while creeping methodically through the sewers and transit tunnels only to pop out into some new location full of mayhem. The adventure and the lore that could be gleamed from reading computer entries and listening to old recordings made it feel extra rewarding for the player who searched well enough to find them.
The crafting system in Fallout 4 and 76 is my favorite part of Fallout. Scavenging, and then crafting is Fallout to me. Fallout 3 and New Vegas are fine games but I sank way more hours into 4 and 76. Lots of people hated on 76 on release. I had a ton of fun with it right up until a duplication glitch undermined the economy.
@keiplanvonuet7485 I'm playing Fallout 3 right now. On my steam deck (running surprisingly well) I just got my sydneys smg, terrible shotgun, victory rifle, and Lincoln repeaters. Now I just need the unique assault rifle and ol painless. That game is timeless for me.
I will forever remember reading gaming magazine as a kid, where Fallout 3 was anounced and had like 6 pages dedicated to it, I still feel the hype just remembering that. Playing the game was a perception altering experience for me, since I still think this is my gold standard for rpgs with shooter elements
I just recently started playing 76 and played for about 1 hour then got bored. Then again I'm not really a multiplayer kind of player, I like roleplaying games and imo that works better solo.
@@karmehed You can play fallout 76 solo, during the first levels between 30 it can get boring since you dont really have insane weapons and only got a single shot guns, or... fists like i only had when i was level 30
the show is bringing so many people back to the series and I'm all for it played every game in the series and watched the show love it all had to re buy new Vegas and 3 recently to play them again last time I played it was like 8 years ago
Same! I played Fallout 4 sometime last year, but hadn't touched 3 or New Vegas in over a decade so playing all of them over again was a ton of fun and going to be playing more for the next few weeks.
That and lack of dialog options....everything was either, yes or no. What if I want to say maybe, but only for caps?? What if I want to ruin my reputation and make fun of them?? Fallout 4 gets a D tier for me.
@@SauceOnChickenBallif you're judging it only as an rpg sure. It's a great open world loot n shoot game there is tons of fun stuff to explore and see and experience. Play it on survival with different expectations going in you might feel differently. It's fun.
@@midnight347 It's sad that we gutted the writing and RPG mechanics of this franchise only to mindlessly roam around for hours doing nothing. It's unfortunate that this is what people enjoy now
@@Anonymous-mm1sztotally agree, there were no redeeming qualities in fallout 4, it was so dumbed down I hated it. The dialogue and story was the big part of what I loved about fallout and I just hate it when people defend it as a non-rpg, probably because this was the first fallout they played or worse the only one in the series
A minute and a half in, my predictions: S - Fallout 2 and New Vegas A - Fallout 1 B - Fallout 3 and 4 C - Fallout 76 and Shelter D - Fallout Tactics, Shelter Online, and Pinball F - Fallout BoS
I have never played any Fallout games only watched the show and not gonna lie fallout 4 felt like the show the Battle for my life and running from 10 ghouls because i have no bullets and Stimpacks cost a kidney 😭made it fun nd interesting
@@rtd4413 4 is the second worst of the Fallout games. It's not even an RPG game which is like the core property of Fallout games. I mean, you'll like it if you're into shooters, I guess?
@@panwu6602 I don’t have anything against the older games. I think they’re fucking amazing. But saying F4 is not Fallout is a bit wrong. It has the atmosphere, the look, the music, and while the story and RPG elements could definitely use work, it’s still a good game.
FINALLY SOMEONE THAT SAYS "EVERY GAME" AND ACTUALLY PLAYS *EVERY* GAME. Bro I don't even care about the video quality or anything at this point, just get my like for that fact alone, you're more rare than you might realize. Needless to say tho I disagree with some of these placements. Shelter is fine for it's genre, a B at worst, even higher at best. Ranking Fallout Pinball an F just cause "it's pinball" is insane, not sure why you even did that, just judge it as a pinball table even without being an experienced pinball player. It's a really good table, definitely an A. And 76 deserves a C imo.
My honest opinion after playing all the fallout games (except for the first two) is that nostalgia still hits a big role in ranking like these. For me Fallout 4 is the best Fallout game and I’ll never understand who criticize its story which has nothing to envy to others. Yeah the dialogue options are limited but the gameplay is WAY better and smoother and that’s makes the game much more enjoyable. Moreover factions are well done, secondary quests are always interesting, the settlements building is a nice addition and the map is the undeniable best.
I never understood why people hated on fallout 4. Of course there are things which could/should have been better, but here it feels like there is just a hate train going on with this game. Overall, it is the best game. Just look at the steam player base, basically there are 100K people playing fallout4 right now, vs 700 playing new vegas and 1000 playing Fallout3. It offers so much more than the other games it is not even funny to compare. I would not deny however that there are things here and there that fallout3 and NV did better (well, I'd say NV has a better narrative/faction system), while Fallout4 radiant quests give a cheap MMO feel. And personally, I discovered the universe through Fallout2, so this one has a special place to me. I don't believe nowadays we could have a fallout game where we get married and later have the option to prostitute our spouse (or sell her to slaver, or harvest her organs).
I played FO4 at release when I was 15, and when I was done with my first playthrough at level 50 something I felt hollow. I sat there and realised that I'd suck a bunch of hrs into a game that gave me less enjoyment than NV and FO3, games that came out 4 and 7 yrs prior. I then replayed it a few yrs back with all the all the DLC now as an adult and realised everything I felt was valid and I acc liked it even less than when I first played it. Its basically the plot of 3 but reversed and with even less thought or care put into, with all the mystery and intrigue existing thanks to laziness and lack of effort instead of genuinely good writing (Head writer basically admits this). It copied NV model of multiple factions but did nothing with it. The only one that feels realistic or decent is the BOS and that's only cos we got tons of other lore on them from before and the fact their bethesdas poster boy. Outside of its gameplay which is defo the best in the series, FO4 is a terrible fallout and a terrible RPG. Calling it an RPG is a lie. If u like open world sandbox to go do whatever then sure its fun but that loop doesn't stay engaging for long and is why so many fans dislike the game. It's not a hate train, it's genuine frustration and disappointment from a series who's previous entries were considered some of the best RPGs OF ALL TIME. And I'm not saying this to make u feel bad, if u enjoy the game good for u, I acc envy u, but to say its a "hate train" is a blatant lie. The ppl who criticise 4 or even 3 are typically the ppl who want well told narratives, diverse factions and ppls who survive in their own ways in the wasteland, and the chance to see a clear future for the wasteland after our actions shape it at the end of the game. FO3 to an extent but mainly 4 failed at all of those and that, amongst many other reasons from its design philosophy to the writing, is why FO4 is a bad game. I'm genuinely curious what u think it does better than the other games outside of its gameplay
@@TY-km8hj You have to understand the reason most people play games though, GAMEplay, not story. I never go into a game looking for a good narrative, if it has a good narrative sure, but it must also have good gameplay accompaning it, thats why many people think Fallout 4 is great, because when it comes to being a videoGAME, its amazing, New Vegas really fails in the gunplay (which is super important since the whole game is centered around its gunplay), movement and general gameplay deppartment. Also, New Vegas letting you see the fate of the wasteland thing is pointless as you can't play after ending the game and experience the world after the curier's actions, you would need the CAGE mod to do it, because its just a little slideshow (not even a cutscene) that plays telling you what happened and and thats it. Lets also not ignore how empty New Vega's world feels, especially with the attrocious walking speed and no sprinting (Again, you need a mod to sprint) it just feels like a regular nevada desert with some abandoned buildings here and there, not a post apocaliptic landscape (though Mr New Vegas really helps those long walks), the NCR and dozen factions around like the Khans, the powder gangers, the boomers, the legion, etc also make the world feel less mysterious because they bring too much order, too many politics. (Which is prob why I love that they are weakened in the show, the wasteland is supposed to be a wild place, rebuilding it would kill the point of Fallout) Fallout 4's world feels wilder, you go into downtown boston and there is everything but order over there, you explore the outskirts and will awalys find old factories or sunken towns all around with raiders, ghouls and super mutants, sure it has the Minutemen and the BOS, but unless you do the Minutemen quests, they wont have too much influence over the commonwealth. Fallout NV feels like a wasteland under control, Fallout 4 and even 3 in a way are more omnious and interesting to explore.
@@TY-km8hj Well, you won’t make me feel bad, don’t worry. First saying that Fallout 4 is the best of the serie looks very factual to me. Once more, I am just looking right now at SteamDB, 135.000 players playing Fallout4 (including me right now), while there are 840 players on Fallout3 and 2000 on New Vegas (you aren’t playing it I guess…). People play the most enjoyable game, they are not forcing themselves to play Fallout4 instead of the other games (despite their constant advertisement and Fallout4 bashing by their cults on every forums as the best, particularly NV)… I already said in the original post that NV had a better faction system and a better narrative. As for Fallout3, I can’t find any redeeming qualities to it compared to Fallout4. Something is telling me that your original experience was with Fallout3 (just like mine was with Fallout2) and you hence have a soft spot for it. Now about why I and many think that it is the best game: First, gameplay is quite a big thing, in a game you know… Bethesda games were never good RPGs in the classical sense, their stories and quests were only barely serviceable to me, and that include all their products (including the elder scroll series and the recent starfield). Video games are overall not great RPGs anyway, at least if you are a real RPG player (I mean pen and paper). The only exception I can think about is Neverwinter Nights 1/2 in multiplayer persistent worlds maintained by individuals or groups. In those you had both the classical video game RPG feel, plus the real interaction between players, while game masters were creating events and stories. I suspect that the rise of AI will finally offer us real RPG in videogames in the coming years. But back to Fallout games, going to Bethesda hoping for a RPG experience in the way you are picturing it is a bad idea anyway, and rating Bethesda games qualities according to the narrative will give a weird ranking. Second, Bethesda games are all about “open world sandbox” as you call it, and contrary to what you state this loop IS engaging for a longer time, this is one of the most basic characteristic of sandbox games, the possibilities only ending with your imagination. And here they have offered much more than before. The crafting system is really enjoyable, offering you to forge your equipment as you see fit, you manage your power armor like a personal customizable vehicle, the settlement system, while optional, does offer the “rebuild” feels. Doing something as basic as powering back up the lights in Sanctuary (the player’s starting neighborhood) for example does have an effect, if only in the player’s mind, just as after retaking the castle rebuilding the parts of the walls which were breached. And the map being bigger means more exploration. On that front, Fallout4 has offered much more environmental storytelling than the previous titles. And finally, mods. Fallout4 has a treasure trove of them, second only to skyrim.
@@prinzdenax why woudnt story be what you look for in an RPG though? also yes 4's gameplay is better than NV--BUT NV's gameplay isn't bad. Playing NV on its own the gameplay is actually really fun. Again it ISNT 4...but it IS good gameplay.
I'm playing 3 right now... nostalgia got the better of you. It's FAR from an S tier game. The weapons are attrocious. They break far too easily and all weapons have the same range (I'm beinjg hit with shotguns from a sniper distance), having to travel through subway stations to get anywhere is really bothersome and the power armor that made you a tank before (and after) is worse than getting a ranger's armor. A at best.
It give it a C rating, the map in F3 is horrible like you said the constant subway stations is super repetitive and the enemy variety is just as bad. I feel like Fallout 3 was just a beta test for Fallout 4.
I think you forget the game came out in 2008 was probably developed in 2006 or late 2005 till release. I think you’re forgetting how old fallout 3 is for its time it’s definitely S tier. Your expectations are far too high I get the range complaint but vats was implemented to be your main source of engaging enemies. Although i do wish they. Made iron sights.
@@sebastiangaray1837 I get it's an older game, but that is just an excuse. Counter Strike is 9 years older and the combat mechanics are definitely better. Add to that the slim pool of enemies, the repetitive chore that is having to navigate the subway to reach most areas and the speed in which regular equipment deteriorates, making you have spares (which forces you to focus on your carry weight and repair skill) or constantly going back to someone who can repair them and the game really falters far from the S-Tier. I'd give it a B.
People are bias to Fallout 3 because its their introductory to a Bethesda game or Rpg as a whole. I mean not that the game is bad but I agree that it's A as a whole. You got to be wildin to think Fallout 4 is in S tier though that's like the FO3 situation but doubled plus the actual products writing was a disaster so it has less arguments
Hey @ShaggyMcSwaggy, just want to say this is a really high quality video, you articulate opinions really well. Bright future on UA-cam.. I can only imagine how hard it is to come up with content ideas, but keep it up. Really enjoyed watching this. I bet you’d do well reviewing new games as they come out too
When Fallout 3 came out, we all joked "It's just gonna be oblivion with guns". And then, when it came out, it was just oblivion with guns. And we all loved it.
Before the first game there was a stand-a-lone demo that was a tiny map (part of Junktown reused i think?) , and scenario you could approach a few different ways. I played a dozen times before the full game came out.
Fallout 4 "I didn't really play the quest line and my complains are that I didn't like the optional settlement building....." Fallout 4 is great! You should try playing it.
Fallout 4 is great and that's why going back and playing was an eye opener to when I played at a much younger age. I'm not understanding the hostility?
4 is definitely S tier for me. 3 was my first. Along with Skyrim those were the first games i played like that. Before the closest was like God of war and Zelda Orcarina way back in the day. I was heavy into sports games like madden and 2k and as a car enthusiast, i spent Hours upon hours in Gran Turismo and Need for Speed. Picking up Skyrim for cheap changed my life lol. Then that led to Fallout 3, NV and 4 (which personally i liked 4 the best out of those 3) haven't played 76 yet but seems its a lot better and ive heard the online community there is the opposite of GTA so thats gotta be decent lol. Oh and off topic but Outer Worlds was AMAZING. I wish somehow it and fallout would be the same bc the concepts are kinda similar. Anyways thanks for the review bc im not playing all the other games lol. The end of 1 is wild but i get it too
F76 is an A/S tier right now. The experience of events and operations are really good. You should try them! It has many many content you problably missed. The community is one of the nicest out there also ❤
Not a A or S hell no B maybe for the most part it’s boring as your waiting for events to pop up if your a new ppl it’s can be enjoyable because all the content after that it’s a dry
Fallout 76 is shit, it's nothing but an equipment repair simulator. Half or more of the game is grinding to get enough supplies to repair armor/weapons or upgrading them not fun
@@soundcloudo5007 you have and entire mission system and zones with different biomes, the map is the best map of all the fallout games, the game right now is an A, its literally fallout 4 with better graphics and people to play with, and even the map is better.
Good video. I got a steam deck and started new vegas. It definitely looked dated since I last played it. I went to fallout 4 to play a prettier fallout and after an hour went back to new vegas. It's so good.
The main character in fallout 2 isn't the child of the original vault dweller. The village elder is the child of the original vault dweller and the MC's mother.
Fallout 3 holds very strong personal and fun memories. I have only 3 other games that hold such memories (MGS 1 on ps1, God of War 2 ps2 & Halo 2 on xbox)
Fallout 2 will ALWAYS be the greatest to me. The tone was so much darker and its the only game to nail the wasteland aesthetic and atmosphere. The world felt super dangerous.
me and my friend have been playing games together every weekend for months now. We've complete games like The Forest, and put a couple hundred hours into games like DayZ. We can pretty much make anything fun because of how we play games. We tried Fallout 76 a few weeks ago. We gave it a chance twice, and the game is a confusing, unfun mess. We genuinely tried to have fun, and we couldn't. The entire foundation of the game is a clunky mess.
Fallout Nevada, Is it in other languages than russian avaiable? I can read cyrillic and im on level B1, but its not enough to enjoy a fallout game as it becomes hard work to constantly translate. Moreover, there is Fallout Sonora what plays in Mexico from the same community, could be worth to play that also when you enjoyed Nevada. (havent played this also)
In definitely in the minority here, but fallout76 is imo the best fallout game. 1 and 2 were great for their time, I remember I liked 2 better than one also and for the same reasons. 3 and 4 and nv also great games, no real preference although on release I think 3 was the most impactful. 76 I didn’t play at launch, in fact I started playing it 2 weeks ago so my perspective on it is blind to its rough start. What makes it great is that it plays like fallout in a world like fallout but you can team up and the.community is amazing
There's honestly no shame in liking 76 or any of these games. Many people in the comments act like they're going to war when it's not that serious, so I'm glad you're enjoying it, man!
Fallout Shelter is still the only mobile game I've ever enjoyed. My biggest gripe was that the holiday themes were removed, when the season ended. If I want to keep the decorations all year, I should be able to.
Listen I’m a huge fallout 3 fan and an even bigger fallout new Vegas fan but fallout 4’s gameplay is just too good to not be in S tier. But hey this is your tier list. Not mine.
@theShantai The story isn't bad, it's just they updated the dialogue system in the worst way possible. The special/skill/perk system in the older games was in need of updating (we all know how some stats were godly while others were useless, same for perks, to a point where 70% of all builds use the same perks, with the 30% being whether you specialize in balistic, energy or melee weapons.) Removing skill checks and not letting us see exactly what our characters would say was the biggest problem. Hell, you could just have many SPECIAL stats checks and "perk checks". For example, you know how in NV you need 25 explosive skill to convince Easy Pete to give you some dynamite? Just make it so you need the first rank of the Demolition perk. Done! Now you have a much more interactive story without having to stick to a super old system.
@@eduardo7677 its just that its boring, running around looking for your missing child, and the Railroads and the Minutemen are boring... too bad it isnt like Skyrim where you can lvl without doing quests and just explore the Commonwealth
Story-wise Fallout 1 is way better than fallout 2. Yeah, FO2 is my favorite but not because of story, more why it expands the universe, have some tweaks from the original(drive a highwayman is cool and the companion system was improved too, etc), you dont have a timer to finish the main quest(fuck vault overseer) and you can continue to play after finish the game(and have a post-game special item to pick). Giving FO 1 a B is just not right in my view(Maybe an A). FO3 over NV? Well, i will not waste time on this. NV is a ocean times better than FO3. My list: S: FO2, NV A: FO1 B: FO3, FO4 F: all the rest
not giving enough credit to 3 imo. should at least be A tier. yea wasnt as deep as nv or the older games, but it still felt like a solid step in the right direction for the fallout series
Fallout 1 and 2 will always be S tier games, if you find them in a different world than they were created, it may be hard for you to appreciate. If you grew up on 1 and 2, then the subsequent games will never compare, with NV being the closest, and maybe capturing the true essence of Fallout. Like them all, but Bethesda doesn’t quite understand.
The choices and ways to tailor your story is so much deeper in New Vegas. It's ridiculous. Makes FO3 look like a straight line in comparison. FO3 is a good game, New Vegas is one of the best games ever made. Watch the shandification of fallout to see what I mean.
@@Thagomizersorry you can’t enjoy stuff because you’d prefer to get cool guy points on the internet for shitting on other people for enjoying a game you think “ISNT REAL FALLOUT!!!” Get a life, boomer. Just enjoy stuff. Not everything has to be FO1 levels of janky CRPG.
@@MightyMenFromEarth VATS, if there is a problem (which I strongly doubt), that it is faaaaaaaar from the bottom of the list of all the problems of Fallout 76 as an MMO. And first on the list of problems Fallout 76 as an MMO is (pam pam pam!) outdated engine. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Nice! Yeah Fallout 4 is such a good time, I'm actually in the middle of playing all the Fallout DLCs for a new video so hearing that is really promising
you're not a true fallout fan if you don't appreciate what New Vegas has done for the series. In my opinion New Vegas is the best fallout just due to all the options that it brings to the table. the factions, the characters, quest lines, The D.L.C that adds to the story and more!!!!!! I love 3 and 4, but theirs no variety in those games like New Vegas. you kill a character that is important to the story in 3 or 4 their not dead their just unconscious, with New Vegas every decision you make could change the story completely and theirs so many ways you can attack that quest line that your doing. this is just my opinion by the way.
Gatekeeping much? I played every Fallout game on release and in my opinion New Vegas is the weakest in the series. I have no trouble in people liking it but people like you pretending it is the only view are the problem we have in gaming. As for your 'If you kill a character that is important' what difference does it make to the game killing Caesar? Pretty much f-all.
Thanks for all of the support on this video! Really appreciate it
I think 76 is kinda okay actually. Though I think there could also have been much more done with it, and it's not gonna reach a full potential, it was entertaining.
Heads up for gamepass users on PC, if you plan to mod the games after youve finished a first playthrough, youll be best off buying the Steam version.
"...Didnt have endless amount of resources to refer to..." No we got a spiral bound notebook 200+ page manual, including recipes! and maybe a cloth map. :P
Fallout 1 should be higher than B.
But is your tierlist and your opinion, so is okey, you can be wrong. /s
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My dad bought me Fallout 3 for my birthday because he thought the cover looked cool. Changed my life lmao
W dad
Easily one of the most impactful games of my childhood.
That one time a parent buys something randomly because it looked cool and you actually liked it and it was fallout 3 is just amazing. Imagine it was sitting next to some transformers game and he got that instead lol
Was my first Fallout game. I remember it came with a Fallout lunchbox which my friend bought. I watched him playing it then just had to have it for myself. Bought all of the dlc disks as they were released then eventually bought the game of the year edition.
@@343Films mine I'd say Bioshock but Fallout 3 was good too
Yes, in 1997 players didn't have the internet, but they DID have a phat game manual and for Fallout it's required reading. Did you read it?
And there were also gaming magazines, which included lot of stuff, including playthrough for many big titles.
Yeah i miss those really huge full color manuals with all the fluff
Yeah all the old games, especially CRPGs, came with massive manuals. I remember the WC3 manual, Baldur's Gate 2 etc being thickies
I'm still mindblown by Fallout 2's manual having 1's epilogue, explaining which companions were canon and how they died/survived the events of the first game.
Finding out the Vault Dweller canonically recruited Ian, only for him to perish in Necropolis still hurts so many years later.
Some of us had internet in 97 lol
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a Nuclear winter.
If I had a dollar for every time I heard that repeated lol. Fun game.
Patrolling the nuclear winter almost makes you want to go back to Mojave
Damn, running low on smokes again
We won't go quietly, the Legion can count on that.
6:15 Funny little trivia, the dev team of Fallout 2 hated the idea of a tutorial, and it was only included since the marketing team insisted.
Even funnier, is that back in the day, everyone hated the tutorial temple. Even leading to mods that let you skip it. Modern players are so used to being spoon fed, that they can't figure anything out by themselves. In the post soviet eastern Europe, we didn't even know a place to buy legit copies of any games, so no manuals. Never struggled with any game mechanics despite of it, or lack of English language skill.
And so they made it in a way that players hate it too :D
@@panwu6602 Clearly the guy in this video felt positive about it. So it had an audience, just in the future, where gamers are clueless and too lazy to figure anything out themselves.
@@raifthemadgamers nowadays are sooooo clueless omg. I'm not even that old but players of today just cannot understand context clues or realize how mechanics work unless they are extremely simple. Either they need to be told what to do and follow questmarkers like a bot or they get frustrated and leave.
I've watched many people new to the franchise (because of the show) trying to play fallout 4 and they are sooo badd (I'd understand if they were like very small children or older people who never played videogames before, but these are young adults that have been playing their entire life, wtfff!!??)
@@maestrofeli4259 what are they even struggling with in fallout 4? It's incredibly hand-holdy and waypoint markers literally tell you exactly where you need to go the entire game
So about your slight criticism of Fallout 2 reusing assets from the first, you're absolutely correct. They did. However, I think it's important that we point out that 2 came out a year after the first game.
They made that masterpiece in a year. So I cant even be upset they reused assets.
I feel exactly about Fallout 2, how i feel about X-Com 2: Terror from the Deep - game came out after 1 year of the first one, and its much better, despite looking like a mod of it.
What's also funny about that particular criticism is Fallout 3 is a glorified Oblivion total conversion. There's just as much recycled from Oblivion under the hood.
How many games don't reuse assets? You would be stupid as a game designer to think you have to make everything from scratch.
Every Time I play a Fallout game: "This is my favorite game ever... Imagine if they made a good one"
Nv and 3 is bad lol ?
@@shealafferty1848 in a lot of ways, yes lol. Still two of my absolute favorite games of all time
Try 1 and to some extent 2, although second one is a bit rushed and less serious. None of that low IQ Bethesda writing. I played 3 for 7 hours(tried for a week, but I couldn't stomach more than an hour of that abysmal writing and game design a day before getting physically ill) before I uninstalled it and have never touched any other new "Fallout."
I would give NV a try, if it wasn't that garbage Bethesda engine.
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@@isaacmartinez2359 Haven't been on that site since FO3 came out. RPGCodex has been more my jam, but these days it has too many modern kiddies for me to visit often.
Wait so you played fallout 4 for 30 hours and never found diamond city?
I played even more, got level around 50 withouth reaching diamond city :D got bored and never touched it again.
me too tbh
@@r92king well that doesn't help. Diamond City and the area around it is super interesting jam packed with quests.
@@r92king I mean, how did you not find It? I'm kinda curious now ngl
@@originalnik527 I think I found it but never went there I remember a big city on the otherside of a big river. I was doing other side quest like the synth quest in a very nice small town or in a place with a lot handy robots or killing mutants on big buildings in city I was very close but i think it wasn't Diamond city. That was like 8 years ago.
New Vegas is the best fallout for me.
It IS the best
@@d2zz immersion and atmosphere wise its not better than its three predecessors. if you do value tone of the game, new vegas might feel wrong. for me that's why although way more limited, I prefer fallout 3.
@@ViDeTool new Vegas got the perfect atmosphere and immersion for its setting in the west . More like the classic fallouts.
@@d2zz I disagree, I love NV but its atmosphere is far more jolly than the last games, even those in the west.
@@andymaritanu7420 it got immersion with the Wild West type music . 🎶 you brought the blues in so I’m moving out 🎶 and they had serious topics like the NcR soldier getting graped by the fiends and the sharecropper farms quest
The reason nobody was responding in game at 25:30 was because you weren't even holding down the voice chat button (It would've said you were in the bottom left)
Journalist level move
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That’s cause he’s just showing random clips with him and other players while doing the voice over for the video.
If you rewatch you’ll notice the volume and his voice is consistent with this video and not chopped up. In other words he’s just pretending to talk to them for the vid.
I loved Fallout 3. As it was my first introduction into the Fallout world and RPG in general. Fallout New Vegas took Fallout 3 and put it on Steroids without losing its Fallout feel, everything improved... theres so much character in that game.
Fallout 3 didn't have the 'Fallout feel' for quite a big part of the game though, that's the issue a lot of people have with it. It's just...it's not Fallout. It's a fanfic with some relation to Fallout universe, but they didn't get the details quite right, the game has that sort of vibe.
New Vegas is indeed a greate game since it DOES have the 'Fallout feel', which makes sense since it's made by Obsidian and Obsidian has a large number of ex-Black Isle (creators of Fallout 1 & 2 AND IceWind Dale 1 & 2 AND Planescape: Torment, probably the greatest studio to ever exist, maybe tied to early Bioware, who had Baldur's Gate 1 & 2, Neverwinter Nights, KotoR, Jade Empire and Dragon Age: Origins).
@@cantfindawayout all of the contrary for me. Fallout was all about inmersion, tone and atmosphere, atleast in the original Fallout 1.
Fallout 3 its way more consistent in all of these and a much more worthy sequel to the original fallout than new vegas.
RPG elements sure, new vegas its much more expanded and that makes it a great game, howrever this alone doesnt make it a fallout game, it doesnt make it a fallout became because obsidian made it. it has a much closer mechanical feel to fallout, sure. but I dont know why people say that new vegas its a closer "fallout" game, has anybody played the original Fallout?. compare it to fallout 3 tone vs new vegas. and fallout 3 its far closer in this aspect (wich for me its a crucial part of what makes fallout)
Fallout 3 probably feels the least like Fallout out of all the games in the series.
@@EpicHashTime fallout 76 and brotherhood of steel.
Fallout 1 and 2 both came in a box with discs and a game manual - booklet, and the booklet told you the controls and basic lore.
I think it may have also had a keyboard overlay.
I remember playing Fallout 1 and 2 when both first came out 30 years ago.
The key was to max out your DEX, or AGI, to 10 to get the most action points.
The bigest pain was been block by NPC movement and one first mods as call them today fix this giving you push command
Yeah F1 on the keyboard shows controls in-game.
fo3 is a game you fall in love with at first sight, fallout new vegas is a game you come to love over time. I used to love fallout 3 more than new vegas, but the more I played both games the more I realised that fallout new vegas is the vastly superior game.
Id pay 5k$ for the full version or another fps fallout from black isle
its got broader, mostly better writing but its also criminally underbaked and doesn't manage to realize everything its trying to. Another year or so getting made and new vegas would undoubtedly be superior. But so much of it's underwhelming. The strips a dud, most of the factions rely on exposition rather than an in world presence, the choices lead into the two same endings. Some better dungeon variety in there but its overworld is lacking. Every good thing has something significantly worse to bring it back down to reality. Hints at a lot of improvements but clear they didn't actually get to bring them to fruition.
Fallout 3 will always be my favorite. That initial moment stepping out of the vault was my greatest gaming moment ever.
I definitely feel that as well! Honestly, one of the best gaming series I've ever played.
Tough to get the dang thing to play on my PC. I don't think it likes the speed.
Fantastic game! Maybe my best ever…
@@EyeSee4.8What are your specs?
@@EyeSee4.8 i have no problem with fo3 heavily modded.
For the record, my fave fallout is Fallout 2. Just did another playthrough, super satisfying and super difficult!
It's one of those games that I always come back to.
i’m excited to play it again with mods (as if my many play though days back in the day weren’t enough)
for me i could never get out of the starting area, cuz i had no idea what i was doing. same with daggerfall. but because of daggerfall unity, was able to finally play that, now just have to do FO2 😂
Hey Mr, if you have a chance check out Fallout Nevada.
Fallout 2 for me. If 1 didn’t have the count down to the vault failing I’d feel less rushed playing it.
That was part of the experience, very few games do that, it felt an actually rush for the survival of your people
I recall a Tim Cain interview where he would alter that if a “remake” were ever on the table. He talks about it on his UA-cam channel and feels that it kept the player form really exploring the world pre water caravans. Cheers.
wasn't really a count down, if gave you so much extra time that you could go do the glow stuff become part of the brotherhood kill the master and still get the water chip
@@Ybad8 yeah but I don't like the first part of the game being like that. I'm discovering. That's just a preference the story is amazing still but I didn't enjoy that part. I can respectively understand why it's good and also dislike it.
For example Dead Money forces you to play a certain way that is not comfortable but it's an expansion to the game. It's different when it's the main questline and the other is a side quest. I can just save back and not fuck with it right now. See what I mean. You can avoid that element until you want to get into it. Choice
Hello mate , thanks for this wonderfull video of yours . Don't misunderstand me :) but in your ranking system i think Fallout 1 deserves a A tier on this list . My personal opinion about that is Fallout 1 considered back then a B tier project while it's in develeopment process and there were soo less people involved in this project rather than it's competitors back then like Diablo 1 game and other kind of RPG games back then released in that era . They created amazing game with it's low budget and it's almost got cancelled soo many times , it's a kind of miracle that this game released somehow :) . With soo many amazing developers , artists , writers , sound composer , directors and other kind of actors in behind of this project made this universe as unique and beautiful as possible . Ok it has too less game time and has less feature in it but because of it's history , this game deserves definetely A tier :) Fallout 2 is also my greatest game all time , it's good to see my favorite game in S Tier list , i would like to thank your opinion for that .
Fallout 3 is one of my favorite games. This spontaneity in the game plus the random tasks are great. The fact that you were recognized by others based on your actions was so realistic. I just say Oasis
In 76 you were not actually talking in game btw…. You have to set it to area voice and make sure your settings are correct
Yeah... I'll take the heat on this one haha I checked my settings, looked online to see if the settings were correct, and most likely it was the area voice - I'll rectify it on stream today
Players of Fallout 1 & 2 didn't have much resources like you said but that had something that most gamers done nowadays, a player manual with the game. Which would help a lot with learning the game outside of playing it
I played fallout 2 a gazillion times over but never had a manual. Don't think I actually bought the game, can't remember how I got it really. But by god was it a journey of discovery. By now I know the game like the back of my own hand.
@@karmehed that is very impressive, much older games almost require it or a lot of force to push through understanding some premises of the game. Which is often what I did when playing rented video games or return the game
great video and great editing man, appreciate all the work you put into this! keep it up
Thank you for the kind words man! These ranking videos always take weeks to plan and go through with late nights of editing so it's really nice to hear that, cheers! 🍻
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for an NV remaster.
Absolutely if it happens they need to give the legion more content
Fallout 4 definitely had fewer safe hub areas and useful resources like caps and ammo, but I think that was on purpose. If you actually do take the time to build up functional settlements, you end up with a lot more of both. I just wish that settlers were more interesting with names and radiant quests, as a lot of that classic charm can only be found in the premade settlements
bethesda should team up with larian to remake fallout 1 and 2.
they should just let larian do their own thing with it, bethesda’s can sit this one out lol
That's too good to be reality... YOU HEAR ME UNIVERSE! I CHALLENGE YOU! LARIAN REMAKING FALLOUT 1 AND 2 WITH BETHESDA'S BLESSING CANNOT HAPPEN AND IS IMPOSSIBLE!
Or they could give it to Larian, I don't trust Bethesda making games since.......star field ughghhhh
If Larian made a Fallout game it would be GotY w/ out a doubt lololo
I like the way you think, but a much more obvious and better better idea is to have Obsidian and InXile who are both part of Xbox do remakes.
Both studios were formed by former employees of Interplay. The original developer. Plus, Obsidian made New Vegas already and it is great. So is Wasteland 3 by InXile which is the precursor universe to Fallout.
They are totally capable. They could borrow an idea or two from Larian maybe. The other idea would be to collab on first person remakes, although I'd like to see that in Unreal 5.
fallout 2 will always be my favorite. when i nostalgia mode think of fallout it’s always 2. the rest of the games are more like an extension of the dream that could have been.
great tier list by the way! i completely agree. only for me would bump 1 and tactics each one tier up, but i understand why they are where they’re at.
also mods help the older games for sure
I think if I knew baseline controls from the beginning, 1 might've squeaked into A because the foundation and story of 1 and 2 carry those games so high in my book.
Glad you enjoyed!
fallout 2 has the most freedom for the mc. never ever i played a game with this range on what could i be. a dummy with can barely speak, a pornstar/sexworker or a scientist that cant survive without fighter friends.
Fallout2 is my reference too, hence probably why I liked tactics more that this content creator, who discovered the game through Fallout3.
@@MN-vz8qm i had already been a huge fallout fan, and a massive final fantasy tactics fan so when fallout tactics came out i was like THIS IS MY GAME lol
Fallout New Vegas is one of my games of all time. I loved it when it came out and since the show dropped I’m so glad everyone else also sees how great it was. I don’t remember much of 3, but I’m disappointed 3 doesn’t have factions like NV did. For some reason I thought I remembered 3 having them like NV.
Really wish Bethesda would let those guys get another crack at a fallout game. The west coast is the best coast in the fallout world. Loved the Mojave over the Capital wasteland and the Commonwealth.
Fallout 1 in B and beneath 4 Is crazy...
That and Fallout 3 being in S tier
For real fallout 1 is one of the best while 4 is like C tier as a game, D tier as a fallout game, and personally I’d put it in F because I didn’t really enjoy any of it
@@plugshirt1762 Based
@@plugshirt1762 nah, it's a A as a stand alone game. And C as a fallout game
fallout 4 in its current state is B tier.
Fallout 3 is A maybe B.
the only S tiers imo are NV and 2. and Bethesda didn’t make either!
@@lugi25 I used to think that until I saw Creetosis analysis of the game. Now, I'm convinced it's shit at being a standalone game and a Fallout
Fallout: New Vegas might be my favorite game of all time. I think I’ve played it 5 or 6 times through now and I still don’t get remotely bored from it.
Its kinda like minecraft for me. I'll play it for a while, leave it for a time, and come back once that itch comes back and i get right back on it.
@tenchu3770 TL:DR - NV for RPG, 4 for open world FPS.
4 and NV have different focuses. 4 is more user friendly, but absolutely dog water on lore, story, and basic RPG elements. NV is mediocre at best on gameplay, but quite intriguing on lore, story, and your role in affecting the wasteland (decently focused on RPG elements).
@tenchu3770 Two out of your 3 critiques were about walking around, and your third is correct to a degree, but when you bring up 4 as if it's superior to it when all of FO4's enemies are bullet sponges is laughable. Fallout 4 has the worst scaling in any game I've ever played and the story is complete ass. If you just don't like FNV then that's fine, but don't try and make very superficial critiques about it.
@@joeasuncion2891 NV is incredibly boring.
The story isn't that neat considering you have to have very specific specials/perk to unlock the cooler options.
Not to mention NV is EMPTY as could be.
Of course an unvoiced character feels more in depth when you have a 15 year old brain filling in the blanks, lol.
@@chrisrichards2289 NV is as empty as could be? Holy shit bro, didn't think one guy could be so wrong in one comment. Compare Fallout 3 and Fallout: New Vegas. I can do that because I played both very recently. Fallout 3 is much emptier. Fallout 4 might be "fuller" than New Vegas but Fallout: NV is 5 years older than Fallout 4, and they had less development time and yet...l NV is a pretty damn a full game with a lot of interesting places to see and visit.
Fallout: New Vegas story is better than Fallout 3 or Fallout 4 story, though that's almost completely subjective, so I'll leave you to your opinion.
And well... your last critique/argument doesn't make the slightest sense in any way, shape or conceivable form, so I won't bother arguing it.
Fallout 1 came with a thick booklet with a bunch of info. No wonder you didn't really like it, you had 6 AP lol. I was 13 when Fallout came out so this is my Fallout 3 in your case, so lots of nostalgia. The B score is fair but it would be an A if you were a kid when it came out :)
Overall great video!
If only I had the booklet! 😭 I remember the strategy guides you'd have to buy for certain games way back, but yeah it's definitely hard to go back to. Glad you liked the video!
@@ShaggyMcSwaggyThe Fallout 1 booklet was like an entire TTRPG lorebook like youd get with DND. Its 121 pages, and they are not short pages.
It should have been an A, regardless. It's the most tonally and thematically consistent game in the entire series, as well as being the only game in the franchise with no extraneous elements
Nah. His review was spot on. This game aged like sour milk. You can't compare it to a game like starcraft that aged so much better. Fo1 had a phenomenonal story but it always was a shitty game
@@marloncebo242 don't make this old man yell at clouds
Unpopular opinion, i went back to 76 after about a year and a half and speant probably a year in it. While is def not an S or an A, i think it went from an F to a B/C (dep3nding on the in game event going on)
I totally respect that, I think for me, it's still seeing bugs after all this time like invisible enemies, render glitches, and lag between weapon impact. The CAMP system still needs many improvements and the game is more of a looter shooter than a story-rich game. So that's kind of why it's a D... BUT you might have given me an idea for a video
@@ShaggyMcSwaggyif you want to have fun in Fallout 76 you either need to play with your actual friends or only play the mainstory and ignore the multiplayer aspect completely
@@funki4896 I kinda agree but it's still fun.
@@biglock yea but its just so not "fallout". its just random shooter game at this point.
@@ShaggyMcSwaggy Some of the bugs enhance the experience. Example: I got attacked by a Deathclaw as a part of a mission. The door opened, deathclaw slid across the room with no moving animation, did a 360 before I got ragdolled and thrown across the room and died. Was too busy laughing my ass off to be angry. 10/10
Fire content! Love the editing and also totally agree! S Tier Tier list.
They really dropped the ball by not having a new Fallout game anytime soon with the show being so successful. Great show, peak popularity, still 8-10 years from a new game
“stupid fuckin people… [dies]” is the funniest shit I’ve seen from a Fallout game 10:55
I like that everybody loves to hate on 76, because it WAS bad and now thats the only thing its known for. Most people didnt even play it for themself.
I agree! Many people just gather their own opinions on other people's opinions. I didn't have the best time running it again, but a lot of comments are saying to dive deeper so I'm going to spend the next couple of weeks doing every piece of content the game has to offer.
Yeah I hate it when people blindly hate on the game because they heard their favorite streamer say it was bad or played it 5 years ago. If you were so burned by the release that you don't even want to play it again fine but the people saying that are the same people giving no man's sky praise despite its bad launch.
Personally I have tried it 4-5 times over the years and it just kind of keeps feeling really shallow
@@nibblitmanonce you beat all the content it is shallow for the most part your just waiting for events.
@@ShaggyMcSwaggy Like you said you have to play it with a friend otherwise you loose the experience and its just a buggy fallout game with silent players running around, playing fallout with friends though....that is still amazing.
Ill admit this was by the most interesting fallout tier list video ive ever watched, you did actually made me impressed and smile btw haha.
Fallout 4 diamond city is the main hub, you can buy a house and it makes it feel like the main hub
I kinda disagree about fo4, maybe ive just played it so many times but caps and respurces never seemed to be a problem, i feel like half the people u kill had a stimpak or some caps
"Players didn't have endless amounts of resources to refer to back in 1997. Actually, they did. Back in 1997, games still shipped with printed manuals, and Fallout's was a spectacular example. I'm sure you can find a PDF somewhere.
Let's hope Bethesda learns from the Fallout 76 fiasco (Spoiler: They won't)
my optimism is giving me hope, but it is hard to hold onto that if they don't deliver on their next title.
I think the MP idea has bones, but their execution was poor.
@@arkangelgaming35 Personally think the game is fine now, there's a shitload of us who enjoy it, I dunno different tastes I guess.
Did you play Starfield they are the worst!
@@bigpesoproductions1413 ehh i found starfield to be kinda fun imo, better than 76 at least.
Fallout 2 came with a 164 page manual (Vault-Tec Lab Journal).. complete with real recipes for "The Big One" Pancakes and "Carrion Kabobs" in the appendices.
I really would love if Bethesda and Obsidian would collab on a remaster of New Vegas or a sequel
fallout 3 remaster was leaked i think, its supposed to be made by obsidian
@@chadcicle5496 Huh? Didn't Bethesda say clearly they wouldn't outsource the franchise anymore?
@@taserrrit isn't outsourcing. They're sister companies now.
@@Droogie128 Oh are they?
@@taserrr they're both owned by Microsoft
It's amazing how much different megaton looks in your video vs when it was launched.
The green haze was so strong you could barely make out any details and had to map marker anything more than 6 feet away
Fallout 2 all the way.
Remember finding Fallout 1 in my game store, had no clue what is was,, but it was on a discount so i bought it.
Was in love right away, and less than 2 months later Fallout 2 came out, and to me its still one of the best games i EVER played since i started on my Amiga 500 in in early 1989.
I played it last a few years back, and yeah for us modern people who has seen what has been made in the last 30 years, it looks and feels a little outdated,
but back then it was AMAZING and the Graphic was awesome, and the Voice acting, the world, the story,, the atmosphere and so on....much much more groundbreaking to me, than the small differences between games nowadays.
Fallout 1 and 2 got me into Jagged Alliance 1-2, Silent storm and so on...
Also played it on an Amiga500, also was blown away by this game. So impressive for the time.
I'm with you 200% on fallout 3. The atmosphere of the Capitol wastes is the most important aspect of what attracted me to this series. New Vegas made several improvements on fallout 3 but the desert terrain really didn't have that same magic that I felt while creeping methodically through the sewers and transit tunnels only to pop out into some new location full of mayhem. The adventure and the lore that could be gleamed from reading computer entries and listening to old recordings made it feel extra rewarding for the player who searched well enough to find them.
The crafting system in Fallout 4 and 76 is my favorite part of Fallout. Scavenging, and then crafting is Fallout to me. Fallout 3 and New Vegas are fine games but I sank way more hours into 4 and 76. Lots of people hated on 76 on release. I had a ton of fun with it right up until a duplication glitch undermined the economy.
“Gamers didn’t have endless resources back in 1997”
No, we had manuals. And they were awesome.
A fellow Fallout 3 enthusiast. Dont let anyone tell you it bad.
It's bad
It's the best still. I love New Vegas but Fallout 3 has some kind of magic for me. I can't pin point it.
I have played Fallout 2, 3, NV and 4. Fallout 3 is easily the best in my opinion.
@keiplanvonuet7485 I'm playing Fallout 3 right now. On my steam deck (running surprisingly well)
I just got my sydneys smg, terrible shotgun, victory rifle, and Lincoln repeaters. Now I just need the unique assault rifle and ol painless. That game is timeless for me.
@@otoyayamaguchi659 it’s ok , you can have your shit opinion and we will just laugh at you
You should play Tactics in turn based mode, live mode looks like complete madness.
We won't go quietly, the Legion can count on that.
I will forever remember reading gaming magazine as a kid, where Fallout 3 was anounced and had like 6 pages dedicated to it, I still feel the hype just remembering that. Playing the game was a perception altering experience for me, since I still think this is my gold standard for rpgs with shooter elements
Putting 76 below Shelter is insane
I can honestly say I was way more invested in shelter then 76. Played every game but BOS.
76 is pathetic
I just recently started playing 76 and played for about 1 hour then got bored. Then again I'm not really a multiplayer kind of player, I like roleplaying games and imo that works better solo.
@@karmehed You can play fallout 76 solo, during the first levels between 30 it can get boring since you dont really have insane weapons and only got a single shot guns, or... fists like i only had when i was level 30
He put fallout 4 above 76 lol
Great Video. The most important reason: Fallout 3 as number 1.
the show is bringing so many people back to the series and I'm all for it played every game in the series and watched the show love it all had to re buy new Vegas and 3 recently to play them again last time I played it was like 8 years ago
Same! I played Fallout 4 sometime last year, but hadn't touched 3 or New Vegas in over a decade so playing all of them over again was a ton of fun and going to be playing more for the next few weeks.
Great video my friend. Hope to see many more great things from your channel!
Really appreciate that man, cheers! 🍻
You described my first time going into fallout 4 perfectly. The lack of any refreshingly safe place made the whole journey feel tedious
That and lack of dialog options....everything was either, yes or no.
What if I want to say maybe, but only for caps??
What if I want to ruin my reputation and make fun of them??
Fallout 4 gets a D tier for me.
@@SauceOnChickenBallif you're judging it only as an rpg sure. It's a great open world loot n shoot game there is tons of fun stuff to explore and see and experience. Play it on survival with different expectations going in you might feel differently. It's fun.
@@midnight347 It's sad that we gutted the writing and RPG mechanics of this franchise only to mindlessly roam around for hours doing nothing. It's unfortunate that this is what people enjoy now
@midnight347 I mean Fallout is supposed to be an RPG, you take that away you take away a core aspect of it.
@@Anonymous-mm1sztotally agree, there were no redeeming qualities in fallout 4, it was so dumbed down I hated it. The dialogue and story was the big part of what I loved about fallout and I just hate it when people defend it as a non-rpg, probably because this was the first fallout they played or worse the only one in the series
A minute and a half in, my predictions:
S - Fallout 2 and New Vegas
A - Fallout 1
B - Fallout 3 and 4
C - Fallout 76 and Shelter
D - Fallout Tactics, Shelter Online, and Pinball
F - Fallout BoS
I was actually thinking of going back and starting 4 over again and playing with the settlements a bit.
I have never played any Fallout games only watched the show and not gonna lie fallout 4 felt like the show the Battle for my life and running from 10 ghouls because i have no bullets and Stimpacks cost a kidney 😭made it fun nd interesting
@@rtd4413 4 is the second worst of the Fallout games. It's not even an RPG game which is like the core property of Fallout games. I mean, you'll like it if you're into shooters, I guess?
@@panwu6602 fallout fans when someone has an opinion they don’t like:
@@j.i.nthenobody54 Mediocrity fans when people dare have opinions:
@@panwu6602 I don’t have anything against the older games. I think they’re fucking amazing. But saying F4 is not Fallout is a bit wrong. It has the atmosphere, the look, the music, and while the story and RPG elements could definitely use work, it’s still a good game.
I believe the mics are muted by default in Fallout 76. Most players probably don't know how to unmute them in the settings😅 Great video
Is it worth playing 3 and new Vegas even thought they are old . Like gameplay wise
3 and NV still hold up! Just visually they look a bit older is all - if you liked the gameplay of 4 and 76, you'll really enjoy going back!
I remember people asking that about 1 and 2, I'm getting old.
Absolutely! New Vegas and FO3 are the kings of Fallout 👑
In fact, there’s a mod on PC called TTW (Tales of Two Wastelands) that links the two worlds together into one massive game 👀
install fallout new new vegas and its like a new game :)
FINALLY SOMEONE THAT SAYS "EVERY GAME" AND ACTUALLY PLAYS *EVERY* GAME. Bro I don't even care about the video quality or anything at this point, just get my like for that fact alone, you're more rare than you might realize.
Needless to say tho I disagree with some of these placements. Shelter is fine for it's genre, a B at worst, even higher at best. Ranking Fallout Pinball an F just cause "it's pinball" is insane, not sure why you even did that, just judge it as a pinball table even without being an experienced pinball player. It's a really good table, definitely an A. And 76 deserves a C imo.
My honest opinion after playing all the fallout games (except for the first two) is that nostalgia still hits a big role in ranking like these. For me Fallout 4 is the best Fallout game and I’ll never understand who criticize its story which has nothing to envy to others. Yeah the dialogue options are limited but the gameplay is WAY better and smoother and that’s makes the game much more enjoyable. Moreover factions are well done, secondary quests are always interesting, the settlements building is a nice addition and the map is the undeniable best.
My man, how can you talk about nostalgia if you have not played Fallout 1 and 2.
Finally, someone who understands 4 isn’t a bad game like most would say on it
Fallout Tactics in the same tier as Fallout Shelter is wild
I never understood why people hated on fallout 4.
Of course there are things which could/should have been better, but here it feels like there is just a hate train going on with this game.
Overall, it is the best game. Just look at the steam player base, basically there are 100K people playing fallout4 right now, vs 700 playing new vegas and 1000 playing Fallout3.
It offers so much more than the other games it is not even funny to compare. I would not deny however that there are things here and there that fallout3 and NV did better (well, I'd say NV has a better narrative/faction system), while Fallout4 radiant quests give a cheap MMO feel.
And personally, I discovered the universe through Fallout2, so this one has a special place to me. I don't believe nowadays we could have a fallout game where we get married and later have the option to prostitute our spouse (or sell her to slaver, or harvest her organs).
I played FO4 at release when I was 15, and when I was done with my first playthrough at level 50 something I felt hollow. I sat there and realised that I'd suck a bunch of hrs into a game that gave me less enjoyment than NV and FO3, games that came out 4 and 7 yrs prior. I then replayed it a few yrs back with all the all the DLC now as an adult and realised everything I felt was valid and I acc liked it even less than when I first played it.
Its basically the plot of 3 but reversed and with even less thought or care put into, with all the mystery and intrigue existing thanks to laziness and lack of effort instead of genuinely good writing (Head writer basically admits this). It copied NV model of multiple factions but did nothing with it. The only one that feels realistic or decent is the BOS and that's only cos we got tons of other lore on them from before and the fact their bethesdas poster boy. Outside of its gameplay which is defo the best in the series, FO4 is a terrible fallout and a terrible RPG. Calling it an RPG is a lie. If u like open world sandbox to go do whatever then sure its fun but that loop doesn't stay engaging for long and is why so many fans dislike the game.
It's not a hate train, it's genuine frustration and disappointment from a series who's previous entries were considered some of the best RPGs OF ALL TIME. And I'm not saying this to make u feel bad, if u enjoy the game good for u, I acc envy u, but to say its a "hate train" is a blatant lie. The ppl who criticise 4 or even 3 are typically the ppl who want well told narratives, diverse factions and ppls who survive in their own ways in the wasteland, and the chance to see a clear future for the wasteland after our actions shape it at the end of the game. FO3 to an extent but mainly 4 failed at all of those and that, amongst many other reasons from its design philosophy to the writing, is why FO4 is a bad game.
I'm genuinely curious what u think it does better than the other games outside of its gameplay
@@TY-km8hj You have to understand the reason most people play games though, GAMEplay, not story. I never go into a game looking for a good narrative, if it has a good narrative sure, but it must also have good gameplay accompaning it, thats why many people think Fallout 4 is great, because when it comes to being a videoGAME, its amazing, New Vegas really fails in the gunplay (which is super important since the whole game is centered around its gunplay), movement and general gameplay deppartment. Also, New Vegas letting you see the fate of the wasteland thing is pointless as you can't play after ending the game and experience the world after the curier's actions, you would need the CAGE mod to do it, because its just a little slideshow (not even a cutscene) that plays telling you what happened and and thats it. Lets also not ignore how empty New Vega's world feels, especially with the attrocious walking speed and no sprinting (Again, you need a mod to sprint) it just feels like a regular nevada desert with some abandoned buildings here and there, not a post apocaliptic landscape (though Mr New Vegas really helps those long walks), the NCR and dozen factions around like the Khans, the powder gangers, the boomers, the legion, etc also make the world feel less mysterious because they bring too much order, too many politics. (Which is prob why I love that they are weakened in the show, the wasteland is supposed to be a wild place, rebuilding it would kill the point of Fallout) Fallout 4's world feels wilder, you go into downtown boston and there is everything but order over there, you explore the outskirts and will awalys find old factories or sunken towns all around with raiders, ghouls and super mutants, sure it has the Minutemen and the BOS, but unless you do the Minutemen quests, they wont have too much influence over the commonwealth. Fallout NV feels like a wasteland under control, Fallout 4 and even 3 in a way are more omnious and interesting to explore.
@@TY-km8hj Well, you won’t make me feel bad, don’t worry.
First saying that Fallout 4 is the best of the serie looks very factual to me. Once more, I am just looking right now at SteamDB, 135.000 players playing Fallout4 (including me right now), while there are 840 players on Fallout3 and 2000 on New Vegas (you aren’t playing it I guess…).
People play the most enjoyable game, they are not forcing themselves to play Fallout4 instead of the other games (despite their constant advertisement and Fallout4 bashing by their cults on every forums as the best, particularly NV)…
I already said in the original post that NV had a better faction system and a better narrative.
As for Fallout3, I can’t find any redeeming qualities to it compared to Fallout4. Something is telling me that your original experience was with Fallout3 (just like mine was with Fallout2) and you hence have a soft spot for it.
Now about why I and many think that it is the best game:
First, gameplay is quite a big thing, in a game you know… Bethesda games were never good RPGs in the classical sense, their stories and quests were only barely serviceable to me, and that include all their products (including the elder scroll series and the recent starfield).
Video games are overall not great RPGs anyway, at least if you are a real RPG player (I mean pen and paper). The only exception I can think about is Neverwinter Nights 1/2 in multiplayer persistent worlds maintained by individuals or groups. In those you had both the classical video game RPG feel, plus the real interaction between players, while game masters were creating events and stories. I suspect that the rise of AI will finally offer us real RPG in videogames in the coming years.
But back to Fallout games, going to Bethesda hoping for a RPG experience in the way you are picturing it is a bad idea anyway, and rating Bethesda games qualities according to the narrative will give a weird ranking.
Second, Bethesda games are all about “open world sandbox” as you call it, and contrary to what you state this loop IS engaging for a longer time, this is one of the most basic characteristic of sandbox games, the possibilities only ending with your imagination.
And here they have offered much more than before. The crafting system is really enjoyable, offering you to forge your equipment as you see fit, you manage your power armor like a personal customizable vehicle, the settlement system, while optional, does offer the “rebuild” feels. Doing something as basic as powering back up the lights in Sanctuary (the player’s starting neighborhood) for example does have an effect, if only in the player’s mind, just as after retaking the castle rebuilding the parts of the walls which were breached.
And the map being bigger means more exploration. On that front, Fallout4 has offered much more environmental storytelling than the previous titles.
And finally, mods. Fallout4 has a treasure trove of them, second only to skyrim.
@@TY-km8hj Skyrim’s better than Vegas ☕️
@@prinzdenax why woudnt story be what you look for in an RPG though? also yes 4's gameplay is better than NV--BUT NV's gameplay isn't bad. Playing NV on its own the gameplay is actually really fun. Again it ISNT 4...but it IS good gameplay.
Good tier list !
I'm playing 3 right now... nostalgia got the better of you. It's FAR from an S tier game. The weapons are attrocious. They break far too easily and all weapons have the same range (I'm beinjg hit with shotguns from a sniper distance), having to travel through subway stations to get anywhere is really bothersome and the power armor that made you a tank before (and after) is worse than getting a ranger's armor.
A at best.
It give it a C rating, the map in F3 is horrible like you said the constant subway stations is super repetitive and the enemy variety is just as bad. I feel like Fallout 3 was just a beta test for Fallout 4.
The worst par of the Fallout 3 is Todd Howard's horrible storytelling.
I think you forget the game came out in 2008 was probably developed in 2006 or late 2005 till release. I think you’re forgetting how old fallout 3 is for its time it’s definitely S tier. Your expectations are far too high I get the range complaint but vats was implemented to be your main source of engaging enemies. Although i do wish they. Made iron sights.
@@sebastiangaray1837 I get it's an older game, but that is just an excuse. Counter Strike is 9 years older and the combat mechanics are definitely better. Add to that the slim pool of enemies, the repetitive chore that is having to navigate the subway to reach most areas and the speed in which regular equipment deteriorates, making you have spares (which forces you to focus on your carry weight and repair skill) or constantly going back to someone who can repair them and the game really falters far from the S-Tier. I'd give it a B.
People are bias to Fallout 3 because its their introductory to a Bethesda game or Rpg as a whole. I mean not that the game is bad but I agree that it's A as a whole. You got to be wildin to think Fallout 4 is in S tier though that's like the FO3 situation but doubled plus the actual products writing was a disaster so it has less arguments
3:15 Playing the game authentically would be to read the manual
Fall out 4 has VR support.
Hey @ShaggyMcSwaggy, just want to say this is a really high quality video, you articulate opinions really well. Bright future on UA-cam.. I can only imagine how hard it is to come up with content ideas, but keep it up. Really enjoyed watching this. I bet you’d do well reviewing new games as they come out too
Bethesda fallout is just elder scrolls in the fallout theme.
When Fallout 3 came out, we all joked "It's just gonna be oblivion with guns". And then, when it came out, it was just oblivion with guns.
And we all loved it.
@@TheGoIsWin21 morrowind would have been a better framework for fallout 3. Classic fallout has bit in common with morrowind actually.
@@TheGoIsWin21 speak for yourself. I hated it
@@silvercloud6370 Sorry. ALMOST everyone.
@@WilliamScavengerFish 100% or even in daggerfall lol
Before the first game there was a stand-a-lone demo that was a tiny map (part of Junktown reused i think?) , and scenario you could approach a few different ways. I played a dozen times before the full game came out.
Called me out before I got to flame you about the pinball take.
when was the last time you saw a pinball machine? name the year and location and I'll be there.
@@ShaggyMcSwaggy just because we can't find one doesn't mean pinball doesn't slap! 🤣
@@MilkmanPlease Y'all don't have arcades near you? I have a place near me that's got about 20 pinball machines, it's great!
@@ShaggyMcSwaggyLast week at my favorite pizza place
We’ve got plenty at the bars around town
Vegas gave you choice which 4 did not. The writing and the factions were awesome especially when considering the final meeting with Caesar and House…
Fallout 4 "I didn't really play the quest line and my complains are that I didn't like the optional settlement building....." Fallout 4 is great! You should try playing it.
Fallout 4 is great and that's why going back and playing was an eye opener to when I played at a much younger age. I'm not understanding the hostility?
New vegas is so much better than 4
@@sddt223 If you like archaic gameplay, then yes.
@@WaveGazer stop being so picky and just play the games for what they are
@@WaveGazer plus you aren’t even a fallout fan why are you on this guys page?
4 is definitely S tier for me. 3 was my first. Along with Skyrim those were the first games i played like that. Before the closest was like God of war and Zelda Orcarina way back in the day. I was heavy into sports games like madden and 2k and as a car enthusiast, i spent Hours upon hours in Gran Turismo and Need for Speed. Picking up Skyrim for cheap changed my life lol. Then that led to Fallout 3, NV and 4 (which personally i liked 4 the best out of those 3) haven't played 76 yet but seems its a lot better and ive heard the online community there is the opposite of GTA so thats gotta be decent lol. Oh and off topic but Outer Worlds was AMAZING. I wish somehow it and fallout would be the same bc the concepts are kinda similar. Anyways thanks for the review bc im not playing all the other games lol. The end of 1 is wild but i get it too
F76 is an A/S tier right now. The experience of events and operations are really good. You should try them! It has many many content you problably missed. The community is one of the nicest out there also ❤
Not a A or S hell no B maybe for the most part it’s boring as your waiting for events to pop up if your a new ppl it’s can be enjoyable because all the content after that it’s a dry
After 600hours in FO76, I can confidently place it as a solid A tier!
Fallout 76 is shit, it's nothing but an equipment repair simulator. Half or more of the game is grinding to get enough supplies to repair armor/weapons or upgrading them not fun
@@soundcloudo5007 you have and entire mission system and zones with different biomes, the map is the best map of all the fallout games, the game right now is an A, its literally fallout 4 with better graphics and people to play with, and even the map is better.
@@drunkhusband6257 tell me you didnt play fallout 3 without telling me
Good video. I got a steam deck and started new vegas. It definitely looked dated since I last played it. I went to fallout 4 to play a prettier fallout and after an hour went back to new vegas. It's so good.
Fallout 3 has 2 decisions, NV is built on decisions so obvious is better.
The main character in fallout 2 isn't the child of the original vault dweller. The village elder is the child of the original vault dweller and the MC's mother.
Fallout 3 holds very strong personal and fun memories. I have only 3 other games that hold such memories (MGS 1 on ps1, God of War 2 ps2 & Halo 2 on xbox)
Those are insanely good games, I played a bit of Halo 2, but much more of Halo 3 - have some of my best memories playing with friends
@@ShaggyMcSwaggy Nice. And for sound tracks and in-game radio sounds... Fallout 3 and 4 are one of the best.
Wait , you mean MGS on Ps1. MGS 2 was PS2.
@@AverageJoe483 Oh yea.. actually meant the one on ps1 that started on shadow moses Island. Would edit.
@@hanzosiku all good ! You have the exact same game history as me ! Except I was a big lover of halo 1 and 2!
Fallout 2 will ALWAYS be the greatest to me. The tone was so much darker and its the only game to nail the wasteland aesthetic and atmosphere. The world felt super dangerous.
Man if they don’t at least remaster fallout 3 and new Vegas after the success of the show I’m gonna lose it
This was a solid video brother! Good stuff!
76 doesnt get enough love!
me and my friend have been playing games together every weekend for months now. We've complete games like The Forest, and put a couple hundred hours into games like DayZ. We can pretty much make anything fun because of how we play games. We tried Fallout 76 a few weeks ago. We gave it a chance twice, and the game is a confusing, unfun mess. We genuinely tried to have fun, and we couldn't. The entire foundation of the game is a clunky mess.
My top:
S: Fallout 1, Fallout 2
A: Fallout 1.5 Resurrection, Fallout of Nevada
Never played other ones.
Fallout Nevada, Is it in other languages than russian avaiable? I can read cyrillic and im on level B1, but its not enough to enjoy a fallout game as it becomes hard work to constantly translate. Moreover, there is Fallout Sonora what plays in Mexico from the same community, could be worth to play that also when you enjoyed Nevada. (havent played this also)
@@FabiusPolis I thought they released the eng versions for them some time ago
@@darrogen6200 Thank you so much for your information, you were correct. Im playing it for hours now and its a real gem of a game!
Great video really appreciate the entertainment!!
In definitely in the minority here, but fallout76 is imo the best fallout game.
1 and 2 were great for their time, I remember I liked 2 better than one also and for the same reasons.
3 and 4 and nv also great games, no real preference although on release I think 3 was the most impactful.
76 I didn’t play at launch, in fact I started playing it 2 weeks ago so my perspective on it is blind to its rough start.
What makes it great is that it plays like fallout in a world like fallout but you can team up and the.community is amazing
There's honestly no shame in liking 76 or any of these games. Many people in the comments act like they're going to war when it's not that serious, so I'm glad you're enjoying it, man!
Fallout Shelter is still the only mobile game I've ever enjoyed. My biggest gripe was that the holiday themes were removed, when the season ended. If I want to keep the decorations all year, I should be able to.
Listen I’m a huge fallout 3 fan and an even bigger fallout new Vegas fan but fallout 4’s gameplay is just too good to not be in S tier. But hey this is your tier list. Not mine.
you're good man! I respect having Fallout 4 at the top too
FO4 gunplay is fantastic, but the dialogue options and the story are both hot garbage
@theShantai The story isn't bad, it's just they updated the dialogue system in the worst way possible. The special/skill/perk system in the older games was in need of updating (we all know how some stats were godly while others were useless, same for perks, to a point where 70% of all builds use the same perks, with the 30% being whether you specialize in balistic, energy or melee weapons.)
Removing skill checks and not letting us see exactly what our characters would say was the biggest problem. Hell, you could just have many SPECIAL stats checks and "perk checks". For example, you know how in NV you need 25 explosive skill to convince Easy Pete to give you some dynamite? Just make it so you need the first rank of the Demolition perk. Done! Now you have a much more interactive story without having to stick to a super old system.
@@theShantai FO4 gunplay is so much better if you never use vats
@@eduardo7677 its just that its boring, running around looking for your missing child, and the Railroads and the Minutemen are boring... too bad it isnt like Skyrim where you can lvl without doing quests and just explore the Commonwealth
Story-wise Fallout 1 is way better than fallout 2. Yeah, FO2 is my favorite but not because of story, more why it expands the universe, have some tweaks from the original(drive a highwayman is cool and the companion system was improved too, etc), you dont have a timer to finish the main quest(fuck vault overseer) and you can continue to play after finish the game(and have a post-game special item to pick). Giving FO 1 a B is just not right in my view(Maybe an A). FO3 over NV? Well, i will not waste time on this. NV is a ocean times better than FO3.
My list:
S: FO2, NV
A: FO1
B: FO3, FO4
F: all the rest
not giving enough credit to 3 imo. should at least be A tier. yea wasnt as deep as nv or the older games, but it still felt like a solid step in the right direction for the fallout series
Correct.
Fallout 1 and 2 will always be S tier games, if you find them in a different world than they were created, it may be hard for you to appreciate. If you grew up on 1 and 2, then the subsequent games will never compare, with NV being the closest, and maybe capturing the true essence of Fallout. Like them all, but Bethesda doesn’t quite understand.
Fallout 3 on 🔝 in my opinion (lore wise and gameplay and the aesthetic
Excellent video, I was really entertained throughout. Thank you for the great content, you kept it interesting.
The choices and ways to tailor your story is so much deeper in New Vegas. It's ridiculous.
Makes FO3 look like a straight line in comparison.
FO3 is a good game, New Vegas is one of the best games ever made.
Watch the shandification of fallout to see what I mean.
Fallout 3 is for people who want to experience the story and New Vegas for those that want to shape it, both are great in their own way
@@kubekzpiciem Fallout 3 has a terrible story though
FO3 is so fuckin boring it's honestly a terrible game both visually and story wise and the game mechanics were dated before the game even came out
Fallout 3 is a bad Fallout game. If you haven't played thr first two, you have no idea what the bar is.
@@Thagomizersorry you can’t enjoy stuff because you’d prefer to get cool guy points on the internet for shitting on other people for enjoying a game you think “ISNT REAL FALLOUT!!!”
Get a life, boomer. Just enjoy stuff. Not everything has to be FO1 levels of janky CRPG.
thanks for the list, it helped me to decide to what play if I ever have any time
1. New Vegas
2. Fallout 3
3. Fallout 4
4. Fallout 2
5. Fallout 1
The rest don’t count as fallout games to me, especially fallout 76
Honestly fallout 76 is not even too bad anymore. Basically just fallout 4 but multiplayer
@@MasonAdkins the multiple player aspect ruins it for me, but It has definitely gotten better over the years.
@@MasonAdkins The game makes you pay a monthly subscription if you want storage somewhat similar to Fallout 3 & 4. That's bad.
@@NotBlackWolf you don't need to pay for fallout 1st
My god fallout 1 and 2 at the bottom of the list....
Fallout 2, especially with resto mod - is one of the absolute best video game achievements..
76 was a crazy disappointment
Yup 100% yes , Fallout dont work as mmo game because of VATS .
@@MightyMenFromEarth VATS, if there is a problem (which I strongly doubt), that it is faaaaaaaar from the bottom of the list of all the problems of Fallout 76 as an MMO. And first on the list of problems Fallout 76 as an MMO is (pam pam pam!) outdated engine. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
LOl......not at all. People still dick riding this narrative?
@@MightyMenFromEarthNah, VATs works fine in 76
The one I liked best is Fallout 4 game of the year edition with all the add-ons, especially Nuka World.
Nice! Yeah Fallout 4 is such a good time, I'm actually in the middle of playing all the Fallout DLCs for a new video so hearing that is really promising
you're not a true fallout fan if you don't appreciate what New Vegas has done for the series. In my opinion New Vegas is the best fallout just due to all the options that it brings to the table. the factions, the characters, quest lines, The D.L.C that adds to the story and more!!!!!! I love 3 and 4, but theirs no variety in those games like New Vegas. you kill a character that is important to the story in 3 or 4 their not dead their just unconscious, with New Vegas every decision you make could change the story completely and theirs so many ways you can attack that quest line that your doing. this is just my opinion by the way.
100% agree.
Gatekeeping much? I played every Fallout game on release and in my opinion New Vegas is the weakest in the series. I have no trouble in people liking it but people like you pretending it is the only view are the problem we have in gaming. As for your 'If you kill a character that is important' what difference does it make to the game killing Caesar? Pretty much f-all.