This Place is Not a Place of Honor
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2021
- Title: This Place is Not a Place of Honor
Image: www.mat.ucsb.edu/~g.legrady/a...
Background:
This piece is an experimental and thematic exercise. I was inspired by the challenges that
designers faced in the 90s of trying to make a "universal" warning sign that could be placed on nuclear waste sites. Whatever they made would have to endure and be understood as a "Keep Out!" sign for anyone who approached it after thousands of years (no matter their culture, language, or level of technology). I wanted to capture the feeling of approaching and entering such a place.
"Sending this message was important to us. We considered ourselves to be a powerful culture. This place is not a place of honor. No highly esteemed deed is commemorated here. Nothing valued is here. What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us. This message is a message about danger. The danger is in a particular location. It increases towards the center. The center of the danger is here. Of a particular size and shape, below us. The danger is still present in your time as it was in ours. The danger is to the body and it can kill. The form of the danger is an emanation of energy. The danger is only released if you substantially disturb this place physically. This place is best shunned and left uninhabited"
Thanks pusheen
Honestly, the wording of this message is just so dumb. It's supposed to be easy to understand hundred of years into the future, yet it's confusing nowadays with no context.
"We considered" suggests we weren't really objetively powerful
"not a place of honor" seems like a place to commemorate something that is bad, yet shouldn't be forgotten, e.g. genocide - maybe not nice to hear about, but extremely valuable for archeologists and historian
"Repulsive to us" again, suggests it's not objective
"Substantially disturb" suggests that living here is ok, just don't disturb the place too much
"The center of the danger is here" sooo, while I'm reading this, I'm in the center of the danger and I don't feel anything? The signs must be out of date.
Other sentences aren't as bad, but they are waaay too complicated. There really should be just the most simple, basic words: DANGER, LEAVE and some universal symbol of death, like skull.
@@wojciechniemirski1782 that's what the Ancient Egypitans did.
@@wojciechniemirski1782 this is not THE warning text. This is a message that needs to be communicated without language. People thousands of years from now may not know what the words "nuclear radiation" mean and not be familiar with the radiation symbol we use today.
@@wojciechniemirski1782 this wasn’t the actual text that was developed; this was the agreed-upon outline of the general ideas that would need to be communicated to future civilizations so they wouldn’t send their archaeologists in to see what cool treasure is buried below. Given the time scale (a minimum of 10,000 years, or roughly twice as long as writing has existed as of now), relying on one specific message to remain legible until the material is no longer radioactive is pointless. Languages and even symbols like skulls come and go and change their meanings and usages radically over that time scale, and we don’t even know if the hypothetical civilization that considers digging the stuff up will still know what nuclear radiation means. Instead, future generations would need to continually update the specific messaging to make sure it can still be understood. That’s where you get ideas like the “atomic priesthood,” a whole class of people whose main purpose in life is to know not to dig up nuclear waste and to teach the next generation of atomic priests the same thing so they can teach the next.
WOW THIS PLACE LOOKS SUPER HONORABLE
A bunch of cool deeds must have been esteemed here
What is here probably isnt dangerous or repulsive to us!
I hope there's a bunch of valuable things here. I hope some cool deeds are esteemed here. *extreme Geiger counter noises intensifies*
@@iceink there must be valueables in the ground
Decreasing towards the center
'Bill, before we leave this place for good, make sure you turn on the scary ambience and turn the intercom to full blast.'
I mean in the center there is literally a constant whistling noise playing so yeah thats acurate
Honestly the spike forest is cool as hell.
It's literally made to be understood as an universal "keep out" sign
@@0xArkemi OOOOH YUMMY SPIKE FOREST ARTEFACTS... TIME TO GO FIND THEM! ! !
and also incredibly honourable
@@squirlis1189 Must be lots of treasure underneath to make so intimidating sculptures and signs!
Can't wait for us to find some alien structure and after a few years of people visiting it we manage to translate the text and find out we have been visiting a nuclear waste site for years
Oops turns out this place is message and part of series of messages
Amazing music. Perfectly matches the looming threat, the atmosphere of terror and shame that these structures represent.
Outstanding work, I think you captured a feeling that fits perfectly alongside the idea of the original artwork with an equally as cool and dark title!
I've been listening on this repeatedly for about as long as it has been out, it nails the feeling of destitution I'd argue. Though it seems almost a bit too structured in the start, by the middle when Truman is sampled, it really finds its place and the true 'destruction' of humanity begins. Almost as if it mirrors the horrors of using nuclear arsenal itself. By the end it is unrecognizable compared to the start.
It's decaying
@@hazelthestitchwitch Well put!
Don’t know how I ended up here but I like the vibes
i thought this was going to be like a documentary or something
This is fantastic. Great work
Beautiful and fitting!
This is fantastic, please do more in this vein.
Sounds like Tiberium War music
This slaps.
Congrats! What an amazing discovery your music is
I'm trying to identify the speech that is sampled near the end of this track, but I can't make out what is being said. This, naturally, makes google searching for it difficult.
Hey Richard,
The middle of the song uses distorted fragments of President Truman's announcement about the A-Bomb at Hiroshima and the end uses a Noam Chomsky conversation about nuclear war and climate change
Shouldve added a nuclear alarm in the backround
neat looking place, real good location for my great palace
“Hey kitty kitty, don’t be shy”
"You don't understand... Your quest of looking for the ancient treasure will only doom all of us! Soon you will unleash it wrath to the earth and every men will see you as nothing but a curse bringer!"
Said the defeated Leader of The Child of Spiked Forest Cult after all of his member have been slained by The Emperor's Army.
The Spiked Forest Cult would actually make sense in one potential solution for this problem. One person suggested an "Atomic Priesthood" that would pass on knowledge of nuclear waste sites for years through ritual and myth. Basically Nuclear Catholics
transcendent, my dude
+5 rads
Is that with or without Rad-X?
How did I stumble upon this? I mean experimental music is great, but the 3k views and 18 (now 19) comments is odd.
Nice
hee hee my funny intentionally foreboding spikes :3
Yeah but what will it look like when the sky is still blue and the grass is still green?
This is a desert, i think there is a picture that shows what your saying but i dont have it
Not just a desert, but a salt flat.
This is without a doubt akin to Fallout's music.
You stop that
@@servantofwrath7370 *laughs in vats of goo*