I have rebuilt this engine due to rod knock caused by this. The amount of sealant used is crazy. Sealant is used everywhere with few o-rings and gaskets used. The sealant in the pickup comes from everywhere, especially the valve covers!
I was seriously considering making either the 86 or Brz my next car, but not after hearing from so many folks of this issue. Plus the trans synchro issues.
You don't think more RTV will "chip" off? Do you bring it back to the dealer & have them drop the pan every 3k miles? I'd be seriously PISSED off if I paid $35k for one of these cars right now. Toyota/Subaru should be offering to check these for free, extending warranties, stop sales and fix the problem, he'll do something!!!!
Having more come off is very possible. I plan to take it back again at some point and having them drop the pan again. Hopefully too no charge, I would like to see a permanent fix from Toyota.
I'm holding off on getting a BRZ to see what comes out of this rtv issue. At first I was considering the GR86 but the looks of the BRZ grew on me and now I think it's a better looking car (totally a subjective thing). That said, other than looks what made we switch to getting a BRZ once all is settled is hearing absolute nightmares of Toyota dealerships not having parts not even for oil changes, mechanics guessing what to do cause they never see boxers and effing up the cars, and dealers outright denying warranty repair based on bogus reasons. Then you here the Subaru side saying that if they have issues Subaru takes care of it no problem making choosing a BRZ seems a no-brainer.
I just ordered a grey MT GR86 (basic) and was told I should get it around February 2024 (I'm sure it will be delayed but that is fine). I'll follow your exemple and have them drop the drop the pan a few times early at the beginning of the car's life. I do not intend to track it so I should be able to enjoy driving this car. Hopfully with all this RTV bad press, I figure Toyota made some corrections by applying less RTV in some areas. Thanks for the video.
toyota korea just canceled someone's warranty due to this silicone in the oil pan issue. apparently going over 6000 rpm was the reason to cancel the warranty, when the car is stated it can do 7000. I'm not a mechanic so I don't know what is really going on, but nonetheless, I hope toyota does something to address this issue.
Unfortunately I don’t see Toyota or Subaru doing much to improve this issue. There has been progress in the aftermarket with different oil pans, baffle plate and different ideas on how to control the oil starvation when turning right in high G moments on track. As for the silicone issue I would still recommend people drop the oil pan after a few thousand miles and clear any RTV that has been caught in the pickup tube. Thank you for sharing that update though.
I hope they do a recall, I dont think its that bad of an issue. The cases of the engine failures were not due to rtv idk if they used 5w-30 on track day but for 9 months of driving my brz, It hasnt blown up lol or given any issues what so ever.
I disagree on it not being a big issue. I hope your car and really I hope no one’s car ever has an issue from it. I wish there was a recall but it’s a wait and see if they do the right thing.
Its NOT comming from the oil pan because another UA-camr dropped the oil pan and used a different color rtv and used minimum amount and 5k miles later STILL got grey RTV sucked up which means its NOT from the oil pan. Its comming from the timing chain cover.
This is a deal breaker as far as I am concerned. I would not buy a GR86 or BRZ (assuming they too have this issue) until it is completely resolved. I feel bad for anyone who bought these cars and is now dealing with this issue.
Well some good news is Toyota is working on the 1.6l turbo 3 from the grYaris and grCorolla. This engine is over built and stout with 0 issues. Based on rumors this could be in the 2026 model for the GR86.
So when they dropped the oil pan for you, did they actually bring you back to look at it or did they see the silicone and admit it was there? Reason I’m asking is if they say didn’t let you back there, couldn’t they easily lie and say everything was fine? Just curious
They could lie but my dealership took pictures and sent them to me and invited me back there and I also took pictures. They reported everything back to Toyota Corporate and this is why Toyota is considering doing a service bulletin and also might change the manufacturing process.
Well I had to push them to do this and they told me I was being to cautious. Originally they brushed off my request to drop the oil pan and gave me a hard time but I was persistent and forced the issue.
I have a gr86 sitting at 2,600 miles and I was wondering when should I take it to the dealership? I been pushing the car but never tracked it. It has just been my daily driver but likes to push the car sometimes.
Thank you for the questions. Miles were 80 percent city 20 percent hwy. No track time yet and I am gong to wait until next spring for its first track day. I will be attending the GR track day sponsored by Toyota at High plains raceway outside of Denver. Car had 3,241 miles on it and the first oil change was done at 900 miles as a precaution and to remove metal shavings from the break in period.
That would be a good idea, especially since the more people that take it in the faster Toyota will make a service bulletin and change the RTV process to ensure this is no longer an issue.
Could this be a problem for all new Subaru engines? I was going to upgrade from my 2016 gt86 but the waiting time and now this, I just decided to put a sprintex supercharger on my 86 instead and couldn't be happier.
I have a preorder for Q1 23, and i was thinking, realistically wouldn't you need to break in the engine first before dropping the pan? Subaru and Toyota silence is deafening.
I got my gr86 from a toyota dealership, but is it possible to take it to a subaru dealership to get it checked out? Also how much do you think it would cost just to get someone to take off the oil pan and scrape off and re-new the rtv etc.? Or should I just wait for a re-call
I would take it to Toyota and have them drop the pan and tell them if there is any rtv in the oil pickup tube that it should be fully covered under warranty. By you taking it in you will help Toyota creat the recall and change how it is assembled in the future.
I would also recommend that you ask to see the oil catch tube yourself so you can document what rtv is there with pictures. My dealership took pictures and let me back there so I could take my own as well.
For clarity in your case now that the issue was seen and they removed all the rtv blocking your oil pickup is the problem solved for you? Or there's a chance more rtv will fall off in the future? How about for others who have some rtv in the pick up but not as much as you did?
All great questions and ones I would like to know the answers to as well. My hope is that my car is all fixed but yes more rtv could definitely come off and clog the oil pickup tube. For those that have less that is a really good sign. I will probably drop my oil pan again in the future to check if more as built up.
Do you think they'll resolve this issue with the 2023 versions of the GR86/BRZ? I was looking for a new car and wanted one of these but now I'm not so sure...my current ride just turned 18 and its definitely starting to show its age. I feel like they already pre-produced all the boxer engines even for the 2023 models so they'd see the same issue too 😭
I recently picked up a 2023 model, haven’t even hit 1k miles yet, yall think should have Toyota look into it or is there a certain point I should have the oil pan dropped ?
I can tell you what I did. By 1,000 miles I had the oil changed. By 3,000 miles I had the oil pan dropped and they removed the excess RTV. I love the GR86/BRZ and with proper maintenance I believe it will be a great sports car.
Great question, however I do believe it takes time and a few thousand miles for the rtv to come out. I had mine checked at 3,000 miles, I have seen where people have done it again around 10,000 miles and have it removed again. Hopefully this is a non issue anymore because all Subaru has to do is change how much rtv is used during the assembly process for the BRZ/GR86.
@@CruiseControl1 So I should run in my car for a certain amount of miles then have them to do it?Or ask them to check when the first time of oil change.Can you see the processing?
You can ask if they will let you be there for dropping the oil pan but not every dealership allows that. I was lucky when they let me go see how much was in the oil pickup tube. I always change my oil early on a new car around 1,000 miles, due to the break in period with metal shavings. I had them drop the pan at 3,000 miles.
The GR86 oil pick up was fixed. They went from a single flat circular screen to a 5 wall square pick up screen. So if rtv does happen to get sucked up, the oil still has 4 other windows to get thru.
Hopefully not, however I don’t know. This is caused by the assembly process at the Subaru plant, they just need to calibrate how much rtv is used to seal each component.
Hopefully not, the issue was caused by the automated machines that Suburu uses and they should be able to recalibrate them to not use so much rtv silicone. However I don’t know if that’s been done.
@@CruiseControl1 Thank you for the reply. I'm gonna purchase the 2023 model just so I don't have to deal with the issue. This will be my first new car purchase. Hopefully they learned their lesson.
Are you getting the Subaru BRZ or Toyota GR86? I ask because since it is made by Subaru you might have better luck with them standing behind the warranty.
@@CruiseControl1 I decided to go for the GR86. Right now it's hard to find a Manuel version where I'm at. Few more checks saved up and I'll buy the car fully paid off.
I would recommend looking at the BRZ again only because Toyota seems very happy to blame Subaru rather than doing anything when something does do wrong.
As long as you keep it hidden and not post it on UA-cam, nobody is going to find out lol 😂. Find a good mechanic that you trusted or do it yourself at home. You can’t really trust the stealership anymore. 😞
@@CruiseControl1 How soon would you recommend doing it? I guess if you do it too soon the issue might not show but do it too late and it might be a problem.
@CruiseControl1 I'm watching your break up video right now, this is such a bummer.... the car is beautiful and it really was my dream car but after hearing about all the BS you need to go through in order to maintain it ? I wouldn't be able to sleep at night. I'm definitely better off getting something else.... I'd be able to go to sleep every night without the thought of my engine blowing up on me the next morning. I truly wish toyota built this car entirely themselves with no parts from subaru. Thank you so much for the information I really appreciate it !
@CruiseControl1 I hope so! Then I'd definitely reconsider going for the gr86 again haha if they don't I was thinking of just going for the base 1ls chevy camaro. It's in the exact same price range.
I would highly recommend it and I would ask if you can take pictures of the RTV once they drop the pan so you have proof and hopefully the more proof dealerships send back to Toyota that it will spawn a service bulletin and a change in how much RTV is used.
I cant believe this problema was in the gt86 and still in the sucesor the gr86 and all for dont spent 20€ in a oíl pan gasket. Other cheaper Cars dont has this estúpid fail desing.
I have rebuilt this engine due to rod knock caused by this. The amount of sealant used is crazy. Sealant is used everywhere with few o-rings and gaskets used. The sealant in the pickup comes from everywhere, especially the valve covers!
What is it covered under warranty?
I was seriously considering making either the 86 or Brz my next car, but not after hearing from so many folks of this issue. Plus the trans synchro issues.
I still love my GR86
I still love the 86s and brzs. But won't buy until issue is resolved.
Me too.
Did you watch 3 videos and came to this conclusion?
@@tone3560 its enough if the potential issue is engine reliability
Thanks for bringing clarity to the topic! It really does seem like something like this could be a big problem for some individuals.
I believe if you take the car into the dealership and get the rtv removed you should be fine.
You don't think more RTV will "chip" off? Do you bring it back to the dealer & have them drop the pan every 3k miles? I'd be seriously PISSED off if I paid $35k for one of these cars right now.
Toyota/Subaru should be offering to check these for free, extending warranties, stop sales and fix the problem, he'll do something!!!!
Having more come off is very possible. I plan to take it back again at some point and having them drop the pan again. Hopefully too no charge, I would like to see a permanent fix from Toyota.
I am torn. I think I rather pay for the service and take my GR86 to a subaru dealership. The toyota dealers around are very incompetent.
It would be a wise move.
I'm holding off on getting a BRZ to see what comes out of this rtv issue. At first I was considering the GR86 but the looks of the BRZ grew on me and now I think it's a better looking car (totally a subjective thing).
That said, other than looks what made we switch to getting a BRZ once all is settled is hearing absolute nightmares of Toyota dealerships not having parts not even for oil changes, mechanics guessing what to do cause they never see boxers and effing up the cars, and dealers outright denying warranty repair based on bogus reasons. Then you here the Subaru side saying that if they have issues Subaru takes care of it no problem making choosing a BRZ seems a no-brainer.
All vey logical points and you are not wrong on any of them. The BRZ is a great choice.
My Subaru dealer charges 0 to drop the pan. It is a diagnostic service visit.
@@deniscdyck definitely buy from Subaru. They will drop the pan fix it or not for NADA NO MONEY AND WILL PICK IT UP.
The old adage stands to let a car be in full production for a few years so they iron out all the kinks first.
True
I just ordered a grey MT GR86 (basic) and was told I should get it around February 2024 (I'm sure it will be delayed but that is fine). I'll follow your exemple and have them drop the drop the pan a few times early at the beginning of the car's life. I do not intend to track it so I should be able to enjoy driving this car. Hopfully with all this RTV bad press, I figure Toyota made some corrections by applying less RTV in some areas. Thanks for the video.
Congratulations on your new GR86!
toyota korea just canceled someone's warranty due to this silicone in the oil pan issue. apparently going over 6000 rpm was the reason to cancel the warranty, when the car is stated it can do 7000. I'm not a mechanic so I don't know what is really going on, but nonetheless, I hope toyota does something to address this issue.
Unfortunately I don’t see Toyota or Subaru doing much to improve this issue. There has been progress in the aftermarket with different oil pans, baffle plate and different ideas on how to control the oil starvation when turning right in high G moments on track. As for the silicone issue I would still recommend people drop the oil pan after a few thousand miles and clear any RTV that has been caught in the pickup tube.
Thank you for sharing that update though.
I hope they do a recall, I dont think its that bad of an issue. The cases of the engine failures were not due to rtv idk if they used 5w-30 on track day but for 9 months of driving my brz, It hasnt blown up lol or given any issues what so ever.
I disagree on it not being a big issue. I hope your car and really I hope no one’s car ever has an issue from it. I wish there was a recall but it’s a wait and see if they do the right thing.
Man its such a good car this rtv issue really puts me down
It’s still a really good car, just keep an eye out for the rtv.
buy a newer model year
Hopefully it has been fixed on newer models, we shall see.
@@CruiseControl1 it has not been resolved on 2023s
That’s a shame
Its NOT comming from the oil pan because another UA-camr dropped the oil pan and used a different color rtv and used minimum amount and 5k miles later STILL got grey RTV sucked up which means its NOT from the oil pan.
Its comming from the timing chain cover.
It’s coming from multiple places, you need to drop the oil pan though to clean out the oil pickup tube.
Subaru… “what RTV issues?” We never heard of this. 😂😂
Thanks for sharing this information
Absolutely, and thank you for watching.
I'm bringing mine to them next week wish me luck.
Absolutely I wish you all the luck in the world
How often do you have to drop oil pan? Every year?
That is a great question that I don't have the answer for. I would hope after dropping it once or twice that more would not be needed.
I’m taking mines but hopefully they cover it in the warranty
They better
This is a deal breaker as far as I am concerned. I would not buy a GR86 or BRZ (assuming they too have this issue) until it is completely resolved. I feel bad for anyone who bought these cars and is now dealing with this issue.
Well some good news is Toyota is working on the 1.6l turbo 3 from the grYaris and grCorolla. This engine is over built and stout with 0 issues. Based on rumors this could be in the 2026 model for the GR86.
I wonder if the WRX may be affected to. It’s the same engine just with a turbo.
Possibly.
So when they dropped the oil pan for you, did they actually bring you back to look at it or did they see the silicone and admit it was there? Reason I’m asking is if they say didn’t let you back there, couldn’t they easily lie and say everything was fine? Just curious
They could lie but my dealership took pictures and sent them to me and invited me back there and I also took pictures. They reported everything back to Toyota Corporate and this is why Toyota is considering doing a service bulletin and also might change the manufacturing process.
@@CruiseControl1 that’s a good, honest dealership you’ve found!
Well I had to push them to do this and they told me I was being to cautious. Originally they brushed off my request to drop the oil pan and gave me a hard time but I was persistent and forced the issue.
@@CruiseControl1 I'm curious how much power Toyota has in that decision considering these cars & engines are made in a Subaru plant
Toyota also owns 20 percent of Subaru and this vehicle is a joint venture so I would say a lot of influence.
Did they fixed these issues on the 22 23 and 24 gr 86?
There is a UA-cam channel that has been testing baffle plates, overfill oil, and testing on different tracks. Look up 900BRZ channel for his results.
I have a gr86 sitting at 2,600 miles and I was wondering when should I take it to the dealership? I been pushing the car but never tracked it. It has just been my daily driver but likes to push the car sometimes.
I took mine it at 3,000 miles and my first oil change was at 1,000 miles.
Damn, I'm about to get the 86 in blue, manual transmission, but now is when I found out about this mess. I ordered a 2023 model. What should I do?
I love the car, it has been amazing. I can’t however tell you what to do, because this is a serious issue.
Even if you get cleared; what’s to stop it happening a day later; is their a point when it stops happening and you can relax?
Great question and one I would like the answer for as well.
Thanks for the video. How many miles were on your car when the pan was dropped and what kind of miles (i.e. highway. city. track)?
Thank you for the questions. Miles were 80 percent city 20 percent hwy. No track time yet and I am gong to wait until next spring for its first track day. I will be attending the GR track day sponsored by Toyota at High plains raceway outside of Denver. Car had 3,241 miles on it and the first oil change was done at 900 miles as a precaution and to remove metal shavings from the break in period.
Just got mine last Friday. Fingers crossed 😅 is this a one-time issue where once fixed, it shouldn't happen again?
I am hoping it is a one time fix but I’m not sure actually.
Might have to schedule an appointment since I'm seeing more and more people reporting this problem now :/
That would be a good idea, especially since the more people that take it in the faster Toyota will make a service bulletin and change the RTV process to ensure this is no longer an issue.
How long should we wait until bringing it to the dealership to check for RTV issues? Considering if we get the car brand new?
I took mine at 3,000 miles
Thanks for your review and information.
Did you run the engine properly And you breakin the engine for the 1000 first mile As written in the book?
That I did and I changed the oil at 1,000 miles to get rid of any metal shavings
@@CruiseControl1
Wow !
So this is really a serious issue !
Absolutely
Could this be a problem for all new Subaru engines?
I was going to upgrade from my 2016 gt86 but the waiting time and now this, I just decided to put a sprintex supercharger on my 86 instead and couldn't be happier.
That is possible for sure. Congrats on getting yours supercharged though!
At around what mileage should I take the car to the dealership to remove the RTV I’m buying one soon and it has 6 miles on the clock.
I took mine in to drop the oil pan at 3,000 miles and it was full of RTV. If you track it I would look into a baffle plate
I have a preorder for Q1 23, and i was thinking, realistically wouldn't you need to break in the engine first before dropping the pan? Subaru and Toyota silence is deafening.
Yes you would need to break in the engine before dropping the pan. Probably at least a 1,000 miles.
I don’t see why you’d need a break in to drop the pan. Just drop it and remove the RTV BEFORE it circulates through the engine.
Valid point, I believe though it is best to have a few miles on it because the rtv may not all break down at once.
@@lastname-Nm supposedly they used rtv on the timing case cover too don’t quote me
I got my gr86 from a toyota dealership, but is it possible to take it to a subaru dealership to get it checked out? Also how much do you think it would cost just to get someone to take off the oil pan and scrape off and re-new the rtv etc.? Or should I just wait for a re-call
I would take it to Toyota and have them drop the pan and tell them if there is any rtv in the oil pickup tube that it should be fully covered under warranty. By you taking it in you will help Toyota creat the recall and change how it is assembled in the future.
@@CruiseControl1 okay will do. I'll make sure to ask them when I go in for my first oil change. Thank you
I would also recommend that you ask to see the oil catch tube yourself so you can document what rtv is there with pictures. My dealership took pictures and let me back there so I could take my own as well.
For clarity in your case now that the issue was seen and they removed all the rtv blocking your oil pickup is the problem solved for you? Or there's a chance more rtv will fall off in the future? How about for others who have some rtv in the pick up but not as much as you did?
All great questions and ones I would like to know the answers to as well. My hope is that my car is all fixed but yes more rtv could definitely come off and clog the oil pickup tube. For those that have less that is a really good sign. I will probably drop my oil pan again in the future to check if more as built up.
@@CruiseControl1 I'd hope now they won't try to charge you if you want your pan dropped in the future.
I agree 👍
Hey bro can I ask where you got those lights under the seats? 👀 they look nice and I’d want them pls
I got them on Amazon. Thank you for the compliment.
Do you think they'll resolve this issue with the 2023 versions of the GR86/BRZ? I was looking for a new car and wanted one of these but now I'm not so sure...my current ride just turned 18 and its definitely starting to show its age.
I feel like they already pre-produced all the boxer engines even for the 2023 models so they'd see the same issue too 😭
I hope they can get it resolved ASAP!
I still love and recommend the car though
I recently picked up a 2023 model, haven’t even hit 1k miles yet, yall think should have Toyota look into it or is there a certain point I should have the oil pan dropped ?
I can tell you what I did. By 1,000 miles I had the oil changed. By 3,000 miles I had the oil pan dropped and they removed the excess RTV.
I love the GR86/BRZ and with proper maintenance I believe it will be a great sports car.
What is the build date of your car?
It was off the boat in LA on July 9th so probably a June build or late May.
@@CruiseControl1 Thanks. This is 2021 or 2022?
2022
@@CruiseControl1 Sorry, just to clarify, the car is a MY2022 and taken off the boat in LA back in July of 2021? Thanks.
Taken off the boat in July of 2022.
I am thinking did you actually saw the processing when them do this? I am waiting for a GR86 now.Should I ask them to check before I pay my money?
Great question, however I do believe it takes time and a few thousand miles for the rtv to come out. I had mine checked at 3,000 miles, I have seen where people have done it again around 10,000 miles and have it removed again. Hopefully this is a non issue anymore because all Subaru has to do is change how much rtv is used during the assembly process for the BRZ/GR86.
@@CruiseControl1 So I should run in my car for a certain amount of miles then have them to do it?Or ask them to check when the first time of oil change.Can you see the processing?
You can ask if they will let you be there for dropping the oil pan but not every dealership allows that. I was lucky when they let me go see how much was in the oil pickup tube. I always change my oil early on a new car around 1,000 miles, due to the break in period with metal shavings. I had them drop the pan at 3,000 miles.
@@CruiseControl1 Ok.Thank you!
Absolutely, thank you for watching
The GR86 oil pick up was fixed. They went from a single flat circular screen to a 5 wall square pick up screen. So if rtv does happen to get sucked up, the oil still has 4 other windows to get thru.
Except all 5 walls of my oil pick up were blocked by an EXCESSIVE amounts of RTV.
@@CruiseControl1 really ??
Unfortunately so. Hence the video
Even with the 5 walls, the RTV blocks the "main" entrance. The side entrances don't pass oil as efficiently, esp if the 5th wall is completely blocked
Very true and that is why I recommend dropping the oil pan and taking a look.
Where else did they use too much rtv ? Rocker covers etc ? Where does the issue end ?
Great question and I would love to know the answer
If they put it under warranty I'll get one.
Mine was done under warranty
Is this an issue for 2023 gr86 as well?
Hopefully not, however I don’t know. This is caused by the assembly process at the Subaru plant, they just need to calibrate how much rtv is used to seal each component.
So all 2022 GR86's could potentially have this issue?
To a varying degree it is possible. This is why the dealership told me that Toyota may issue a recall and change the RTV process during assembly.
Was this silicone built after from normal driving or alot of track use and this accumalation is after how many km or miles
No track use and no hard driving. 3,200 miles.
@@CruiseControl1 omg thats crazy... they really need to do a recall
@@cuzidk Agreed.
Do you think this will also be an issue for the 2023 model?
Unless the process is changed on how much RTV silicone used then yes.
@@CruiseControl1 I just got one last month but I will definitely have them check it out when I take it to get the oil change
I would definitely recommend it.
Aren’t you concerned about the timing cover?
No because it is all under warranty.
does this 400 dollar fix, resolve permanently this issue? thnx!
I didn’t end up paying anything because there was a problem and I don’t know if it will be a long term
Will this be an issue for the 2023 model?
Hopefully not, the issue was caused by the automated machines that Suburu uses and they should be able to recalibrate them to not use so much rtv silicone. However I don’t know if that’s been done.
@@CruiseControl1 Thank you for the reply. I'm gonna purchase the 2023 model just so I don't have to deal with the issue. This will be my first new car purchase. Hopefully they learned their lesson.
Are you getting the Subaru BRZ or Toyota GR86? I ask because since it is made by Subaru you might have better luck with them standing behind the warranty.
@@CruiseControl1 I decided to go for the GR86. Right now it's hard to find a Manuel version where I'm at. Few more checks saved up and I'll buy the car fully paid off.
I would recommend looking at the BRZ again only because Toyota seems very happy to blame Subaru rather than doing anything when something does do wrong.
Drop the pan yourself and make thing a lot easier.
Would that void your warranty?
As long as you keep it hidden and not post it on UA-cam, nobody is going to find out lol 😂. Find a good mechanic that you trusted or do it yourself at home. You can’t really trust the stealership anymore. 😞
@@BrzBoyz831 Unfortunately that is true
How many miles did your 86 have when you dropped the pan
3,200
@@CruiseControl1 How soon would you recommend doing it? I guess if you do it too soon the issue might not show but do it too late and it might be a problem.
I would say by the 5,000 miles mark
Hey, how much did it cost you to get this done ? Or was it fully covered by your warranty ?!
I heard the deal you made with them in the video, but just wanted to confirm it was free
It was supposed to be $400 but after the amount of RTV that came out they decided to waive the charge.
@CruiseControl1 I'm watching your break up video right now, this is such a bummer.... the car is beautiful and it really was my dream car but after hearing about all the BS you need to go through in order to maintain it ? I wouldn't be able to sleep at night. I'm definitely better off getting something else.... I'd be able to go to sleep every night without the thought of my engine blowing up on me the next morning. I truly wish toyota built this car entirely themselves with no parts from subaru. Thank you so much for the information I really appreciate it !
I have heard a rumor that the next gen gr86 will be powered by the gryaris and gr Corolla turbo 3
@CruiseControl1 I hope so! Then I'd definitely reconsider going for the gr86 again haha if they don't I was thinking of just going for the base 1ls chevy camaro. It's in the exact same price range.
How many miles did u have on it?
3,200
Ok thanks. Mine is at 4600. Guess I'll be taking mine to Toyota then. Just for peace of mind
I would highly recommend it and I would ask if you can take pictures of the RTV once they drop the pan so you have proof and hopefully the more proof dealerships send back to Toyota that it will spawn a service bulletin and a change in how much RTV is used.
Wow, maybe I'll take another look at an '04 RX-8, likely safer with that :)
I love the RX-8, it just needs a K20 swap and you are good to go.
I cant believe this problema was in the gt86 and still in the sucesor the gr86 and all for dont spent 20€ in a oíl pan gasket.
Other cheaper Cars dont has this estúpid fail desing.
Agreed
Eh.. still has 80% of its pickup
Mine did not
Get a Tesla instead.
Sarcasm?