Me too!!!! Difficult to have in Italy ,on 2022 they sent only 300 cars sold out in two days..all manual gear , I ordered the Gr 86 in Halo white colour at the end of last agost and the delivery for the moment will be on next 2023 September,but I have an appointment after half January to have more precise info about a real date of delivery ... In Italy is more easy to buy a Ferrari car!!! 😂😂😂
@@jubbalandcars I might be wrong on this (so take it with a grain of salt) but one of the reason as to why is it such a good car for training drivers is because Toyota took a look at EA86 and used those thing they learned along side with Keichi Tsuchiha (Drift King) experiences with the car and built it based on those. Keichi Tsuchiha is a famous Japanese race driver who own's an AE86 and loves it. He said it in an interview that driven the right way the EA*^ can train the driver.
Hey man just got a red gr86 in 6 speed. Never driven a manual and am trying to follow your tutorials to learn. Having a rough time but slowly getting it.
@@Austinomon Don’t forget that once you have the basics, to have fun with it. I’ve been driving a manual for about 2.5 years now and a 5 speed is what I learned with. Best wishes to you man.
@@davidrose7594 I've owned 2 brzs prior, both automatic and have had so much fun with them, some scary experiences but overall just trying to be a better driver in the street and in canyons. I'm for sure gunna have a blast once I'm good at the manual aspect of the car. Other than that I feel right at home as if I was in my old cars
It may take a month or 2 to get comfortable with the basics but will be worth it to be in control of drivetrain and so satisfying when you get it correct. However being an expert is a life time of practice and that is the real reward. My 1st standard was a Fiero and it was 6 weeks of stalling or rolling back too much on hill start. Just be patient and practice as much as possible
Approaching the limits - perfect comment. One of the reasons I love my 2013 scion frs 10 series. It's like driving a toy everytime I get in it. Smiles and fun. And, it gets in the high 30's mpg on the highway. Also on reliability - I've had my car over 9 years and only one problem. I needed a new clutch after 5 years or 50K miles or so. That's it. NO other issues. I have 71K miles on the car now.
My favorite car out of a couple dozen in my life. I’ve lowered mine, bigger wheels and tires, wrapped the roof and little carbon fiber here and there and it looks like a million bucks. Love the road feedback I get. This drives me as I’m driving it. Great video
yes on the sneaky practicality - I fit my upright bass plus amp/cabinet and extras! I have a 22 BRZ 6MT, aside from the points you mentioned, I like the fact these cars are NA (no turbo lag which means punching it through corners in the city is fun) and have the Toyota D-4S intake (hopefully better for keeping valves clean).
100% agreed on the importance of NA engine with good throttle response in a light nimble sports car like this. And yes the combined port + direct injection helps keep valves clean too!
I own an s2k already so I'm really interested in adding this to the fleet as I think this is going to be one of the highly desirable cars in the future and slept on now but it's most likely between this GR86, new Civic type R, or the new Integra type S.
it's fun to watch your videos on the GR86 now that I have one.I first watched them when i ordered the car and now that I'm driving the car your points make sense!Thank's
Damn, I'm so jealous you got this for retail price. I spent a little over retail for the 2023 Premium, but I honestly don't regret it because the car is so fun to drive and looks so good stock body.
@@bryanthegreat9085 At the moment just worried about what interest rates and such will be, they've sky rocketed the past year or two and being this young, i don't exactly have an outstanding credit history to combat it.
Re: looks, I feel like all the photos in the internet look awful for some reason. But when I actually saw one in person, it looks waaaaay better than expected
Thanks for the Vid. Can't wait to get mine in 8 months time in GCC region. Saw another UA-cam video in which they mentioned that in the UK production was sold out for 2 years in approximately 1 hour of sales starting 😳
@@jubbalandcarssome people say it lacks character without boost/turbo. Not everyone enjoys well built NA cars lol. I on the other hand don't care for turbo lag. Yeah, turbos sound cool but I like superchargers more in this case 😎. The liner power band plus the fact that they don't alter the feel of the car too far from factory like the turbos do.
I love how they look. That's it. I'll take my GT over it any day and every day. I LOVE the high horsepower acceleration of my car, Camaros, and Challengers. I have a 2018 Manual GT and it's a blast!
@thullraven1 doesn't really count then lol. Seems like GR86 people run them thru fairly nasty winters. I live in the NE and I've never seen a muscle car in a snow storm.
@@MeltingRubberZ28 You shouldn't be driving ANY rear wheel drive vehicle in a snowstorm regardless of what type it is unless you have no choice. FWD or AWD is the way to go. The type of tires matter most of all. I was born and raised in the NYC Area of NJ and we were all smart enough to put snow tires on our cars in the Winter. Even a FWD or AWD vehicle won't do so well in Winter weather without snow tires.
@thullraven1 so I would tend to agree with you. I've lived in the NE 35 years now and have the same mentality. It seems either its just a snow tires thing, or maybe it's that the 86/BRZ already has such skinny tires but a lot of people drive them thru the winter. The Topher on here has done it for a decade now, SavageGeese did it in Chicago, I chatted with a guy in Colorado that's been doing it for a few years now. It seems plausible and I'm considering it.
I'm going to cry... 28.000$ in USA 34.000€ in Europe +60.000€ in Spain due to low stock and resellers... I think even working hard full time at my job isn't enough, I'm just devastated, why Toyota sent so few units to Spain. And yes I know I commented in your other video but I'm just sad, it's my dream car but it's so unfair.
I have owned three AE86 sprinters and Levins they did not need much more than 160hp to keep up with turbo cars on track as you could carry more speed into the corner and brakes held up well been light. So now a bit older looking forward to my GR86 which is now in build. It will be driven on road but still the odd track day. Will get a set of Rays and grippy tyres and a bit of negative camber on the front.
Your video SHOULD/SHOULD NOT sold me. Waiting for a MY2024 now. Hopefully they sort out the right turn oil starvation issues, I'd like to be able to track it mildly stock
Also no other car at this price point revs past 7k. Nobody think about it now. If gen 2 had came with a 6.5k redline, everone would be crying now and gen 1 wouldve become more desirable.
@Jubbal & Cars A pleasantly sounding garbage disposal in that case. It is definitely a unique experience no where else to be found. I like the sound with a mild exhaust like R400. It's no K20 or F20 for sure.
I sold my 2017 Toyota 86 and forked out the extra 20k for my new 2023 GTS GR86. Had to order before I knew the final specs. New upgraded motor is great but I no longer have any storage space, no satellite navigation and no spare wheel. Oh and I got the manual so missed out on some very key safety features only found in the automatic. I drive in rural areas all the time with no phone coverage so apple car play maps is useless to me. Found myself buying a map book for the first time in about 15 years and have to consider buying an aftermarket head unit for navigation. Really shocked by the downgrades in functionality Toyota. Would have bought the BRZ had I known.
Throttle mapping at low rpm is artificially boosted for the sensation of torque and speed paired with the throttle input lag is horrible. I sold my Gr after 3 months. Not to mention the speakers are dam near useless. I wish they woulda spent more money on better electronics to reduce that lag.
This is will be my car at december/gennuary (at least this is the idea) i'm really exited to get one of this (only sad part i will have to get a 2nd hand car becuase new it cost a bit too much for me right now)
Had a lot of fun in my 10th gen si, modded to the max, a lot of people say its not fast, but a little tuning of the turbo..it was plenty quick for me. unfortunately a lady totaled my car...and don't want to go through the grueling process of getting another si, and spending money on modding it again... any advice to someone who wants something different and sporty? I've always liked the look if the frs
get frs. but if you choose not to thats fine just make sure you pick a car that you like, test drive it first you could also try a wrx if the frs doesnt seem as appealing to you because the si probably had a quicker 0-60 than the frs does
Depends on mods you want. If you’re going to replace rims/tires or seats within a year or 2 go base model. Only other difference is 2 speakers. Exhaust & subwoofer were my 1st mods so went with upper trim
I get why they did it but I do wish they had a normal glass sunroof. Since it is competing with Miata it would be nice to at least be able to feel the sun. I had a VW CC with no sunroof and would probably never buy a vehicle without one again.
Biggest issue with this car is the OEM Torsen differential, it is so trash/unstable/unpredictable, fortunately aftermarket clutch pack LSD are available.
@@MeltingRubberZ28 Yes, I went with Cusco Type-RS years ago, 1.3k$ + 50$ for the bearings, got them installed for 20$, the rest of the install I did myself, 50$ for the backlash tool and paste (not required, I just wanted to double check), fluids, 1.5k$ total is a good estimate. If you get everything done by someone else I would say at least 2k$ maybe 2.5k$. Now the behavior of the car actually makes sense when attacking challenging sections at the track, it is a new, completely different car. Additional parts were needed to restore the balance of the car since the change is so large (especially with aggressive lock settings).
@@MeltingRubberZ28 Since the rear can take more load now, further increase the rear sway bar and rear spring rate, with no changes the outside rear was bottoming out. Also look at increasing rear squat. At the end, understeer and oversteer should be minimal. The car can handle 4 big semi-slicks when some effort is placed on the setup.
@Iseenoobpeoples I doubt I'll ever get to the point where I track an 86. I actually currently don't even own one, but am considering one. I did go from a Torsen diff to a clutch type and that was much improved on my Camaro years back.
i've got a bit of a problematic left hip and daily clutch use has caused me unbearable pain in the past... do you think i could still get a similar experience out of the automatic transmission?
I don’t get it, didn’t you say in a BRZ video I’ve seen that the steering is lacking? So how come in this video you claim it’s good? It’s the same steering exactly and both cars feel the same in that regard! 🤦♂️
How did you find a base model for MSRP. I’ve contacted 29 Toyota dealers in my area and the best deal I could get was a Premium model with $1500 in options (which I don’t need). That makes it a $37k car (tax included).
Either would be great. Elantra has a bit more practicality. GR86 has FR layout and will be a better tool to improve driving (and I would argue FR is always more fun at the limit)
These cars had $5k to $10k mark ups at the time he made the video and he has the audacity to call it “underrated”. A matter a fact the mark up was so high that for the same price I got a BMW 230i that had little hype behind it and it absolutely annihilates the GR86 in every metric. The 86 is the best sub $30k car but anything more and there are much better choices.
Planning on getting this car by the end of 2023 🙏
You're gonna love it
Me too!!!! Difficult to have in Italy ,on 2022 they sent only 300 cars sold out in two days..all manual gear , I ordered the Gr 86 in Halo white colour at the end of last agost and the delivery for the moment will be on next 2023 September,but I have an appointment after half January to have more precise info about a real date of delivery ... In Italy is more easy to buy a Ferrari car!!! 😂😂😂
I waited around 5 months total for them to deliver my brz. I love the red stitching inside
Saaaame I love it❤
@@jubbalandcars I placed an order for this car December last year and still waiting. Hopefully is worth the wait
Autocrossing at 9 and 10/10ths in my first RWD sportscar has been a revelation for me.
My man! Enjoy
@@jubbalandcars I might be wrong on this (so take it with a grain of salt) but one of the reason as to why is it such a good car for training drivers is because Toyota took a look at EA86 and used those thing they learned along side with Keichi Tsuchiha (Drift King) experiences with the car and built it based on those.
Keichi Tsuchiha is a famous Japanese race driver who own's an AE86 and loves it. He said it in an interview that driven the right way the EA*^ can train the driver.
I got mine in Oct and not going to lie. I didn't like the look first but it grew on me real fast and now I love it lol
Hey man just got a red gr86 in 6 speed. Never driven a manual and am trying to follow your tutorials to learn. Having a rough time but slowly getting it.
Keep at it and don't give up. Be patient with yourself. It's an art to practice and improve upon over time
@@jubbalandcars Thanks man. Keep up the good work. Hope I can drive as smooth as you by summer time
@@Austinomon Don’t forget that once you have the basics, to have fun with it. I’ve been driving a manual for about 2.5 years now and a 5 speed is what I learned with. Best wishes to you man.
@@davidrose7594 I've owned 2 brzs prior, both automatic and have had so much fun with them, some scary experiences but overall just trying to be a better driver in the street and in canyons. I'm for sure gunna have a blast once I'm good at the manual aspect of the car. Other than that I feel right at home as if I was in my old cars
It may take a month or 2 to get comfortable with the basics but will be worth it to be in control of drivetrain and so satisfying when you get it correct. However being an expert is a life time of practice and that is the real reward. My 1st standard was a Fiero and it was 6 weeks of stalling or rolling back too much on hill start. Just be patient and practice as much as possible
I don't have a GR86 but a 2023 BRZ. Coming from a 2017 WRX. This platform is way more enjoyable to drive!
No doubt
Approaching the limits - perfect comment. One of the reasons I love my 2013 scion frs 10 series. It's like driving a toy everytime I get in it. Smiles and fun. And, it gets in the high 30's mpg on the highway. Also on reliability - I've had my car over 9 years and only one problem. I needed a new clutch after 5 years or 50K miles or so. That's it. NO other issues. I have 71K miles on the car now.
Loved my 2013 FRS for the same reason. Still miss the steering on it
@@jubbalandcars Is the steering on the new one not as good?
I placed an order for this car. It will be my first manual/ sports car.
As an owner you got all the points on why I love mine. You need to get an exhaust best mod I’ve made so far
Once you become an old fart like me you won’t want a loud exhaust
My favorite car out of a couple dozen in my life. I’ve lowered mine, bigger wheels and tires, wrapped the roof and little carbon fiber here and there and it looks like a million bucks. Love the road feedback I get. This drives me as I’m driving it. Great video
yes on the sneaky practicality - I fit my upright bass plus amp/cabinet and extras! I have a 22 BRZ 6MT, aside from the points you mentioned, I like the fact these cars are NA (no turbo lag which means punching it through corners in the city is fun) and have the Toyota D-4S intake (hopefully better for keeping valves clean).
100% agreed on the importance of NA engine with good throttle response in a light nimble sports car like this. And yes the combined port + direct injection helps keep valves clean too!
can you link me what you use for your music and bass set up? Got a 23 86 stock and want to upgrade the sound
i’m getting one next week honestly really stoked
Congratulations! How are you finding it?
I have only seen 2 others on the road since I've owned my August 2022. Agree. Love mine, and get alot of looks.
The pigeon at 3:46: Yo, is that a GR86!
Pigeon knows wassup
Your reasons why to get one, and why not to get one makes me want one even more.
Hell yeah! It's a great car
I own an s2k already so I'm really interested in adding this to the fleet as I think this is going to be one of the highly desirable cars in the future and slept on now but it's most likely between this GR86, new Civic type R, or the new Integra type S.
GR86 the most fun out of those three IMO. FR coupe > FF sedan. It’s much more modern and refined than S2K which is a pro or con depending on use case
@@jubbalandcars Yeah I may just need to go drive one but I love everything I've been hearing about them.
Minus the practicality and arguably the price, the same things can be said about the MX-5! All fun cars
MX5 is fantastic. Just not as a one car solution
@@jubbalandcars Yup 100%
I love my new BRZ! It is awesome to drive.
Hell yeah!
it's fun to watch your videos on the GR86 now that I have one.I first watched them when i ordered the car and now that I'm driving the car your points make sense!Thank's
Damn, I'm so jealous you got this for retail price. I spent a little over retail for the 2023 Premium, but I honestly don't regret it because the car is so fun to drive and looks so good stock body.
Just bought 23 gr86 limited edition…can’t wait to drive it daily…first car at 24 feels good. Time to spark my blunt 🙏
About to order my first at 19 after pulling around this old 2003 camry. Excited af.
@@kazvsty congrats! I upgraded from a stock 99 accord…basically a dinosaur into a spaceship lol
@@bryanthegreat9085 At the moment just worried about what interest rates and such will be, they've sky rocketed the past year or two and being this young, i don't exactly have an outstanding credit history to combat it.
Re: looks, I feel like all the photos in the internet look awful for some reason. But when I actually saw one in person, it looks waaaaay better than expected
I have a Subi Impreza 2.0i paddle shift and love its handling. The fun for me is high even with an auto naturally aspirated. Rwd cars are so fun
My favorite part of this video was watching his occasional spittle fly
A car like this for under 30k is what we need. There are few sports cars in this price bracket anymore. Only Si, Miata, Mustang, Camaro
you’re not walking out of any dealer in America and getting one under 30k 😂😂😂
Thanks for the Vid. Can't wait to get mine in 8 months time in GCC region. Saw another UA-cam video in which they mentioned that in the UK production was sold out for 2 years in approximately 1 hour of sales starting 😳
You're gonna love it, excited for you. We're lucky in the US that we don't have the volume restrictions they had to place in the UK
Third GR86 video definitely made it a solid choice I'm getting this. I've been a fan since the AE86!
I definitely want one! but since it’s still relatively new with not available turbo/tunes yet, I’ll go for the frs.
Turbo would ruin the character of the car
@@jubbalandcarssome people say it lacks character without boost/turbo. Not everyone enjoys well built NA cars lol. I on the other hand don't care for turbo lag. Yeah, turbos sound cool but I like superchargers more in this case 😎. The liner power band plus the fact that they don't alter the feel of the car too far from factory like the turbos do.
Turbos ruined every car ever made
I love how they look. That's it. I'll take my GT over it any day and every day. I LOVE the high horsepower acceleration of my car, Camaros, and Challengers. I have a 2018 Manual GT and it's a blast!
You drive it in the winter too?
@@MeltingRubberZ28 Yep. I live in Texas. We get Winter, but in normally isn't too bad.
@thullraven1 doesn't really count then lol. Seems like GR86 people run them thru fairly nasty winters. I live in the NE and I've never seen a muscle car in a snow storm.
@@MeltingRubberZ28 You shouldn't be driving ANY rear wheel drive vehicle in a snowstorm regardless of what type it is unless you have no choice. FWD or AWD is the way to go. The type of tires matter most of all. I was born and raised in the NYC Area of NJ and we were all smart enough to put snow tires on our cars in the Winter. Even a FWD or AWD vehicle won't do so well in Winter weather without snow tires.
@thullraven1 so I would tend to agree with you. I've lived in the NE 35 years now and have the same mentality. It seems either its just a snow tires thing, or maybe it's that the 86/BRZ already has such skinny tires but a lot of people drive them thru the winter. The Topher on here has done it for a decade now, SavageGeese did it in Chicago, I chatted with a guy in Colorado that's been doing it for a few years now. It seems plausible and I'm considering it.
There's a reason the Drift King himself praised this car.
I'm going to cry...
28.000$ in USA
34.000€ in Europe
+60.000€ in Spain due to low stock and resellers...
I think even working hard full time at my job isn't enough, I'm just devastated, why Toyota sent so few units to Spain.
And yes I know I commented in your other video but I'm just sad, it's my dream car but it's so unfair.
I have owned three AE86 sprinters and Levins they did not need much more than 160hp to keep up with turbo cars on track as you could carry more speed into the corner and brakes held up well been light. So now a bit older looking forward to my GR86 which is now in build. It will be driven on road but still the odd track day. Will get a set of Rays and grippy tyres and a bit of negative camber on the front.
Your video SHOULD/SHOULD NOT sold me. Waiting for a MY2024 now. Hopefully they sort out the right turn oil starvation issues, I'd like to be able to track it mildly stock
Hell yeah congrats!
Neptune blue is the best color. Reminds of Porsche’s Miami blue.
Poor man’s shark blue
Also no other car at this price point revs past 7k. Nobody think about it now. If gen 2 had came with a 6.5k redline, everone would be crying now and gen 1 wouldve become more desirable.
Good point about redline. Although my gen 1 sounded like garbage disposal around 5-6k
@Jubbal & Cars A pleasantly sounding garbage disposal in that case. It is definitely a unique experience no where else to be found. I like the sound with a mild exhaust like R400. It's no K20 or F20 for sure.
The gr 86 and the mazda mx5 are the best sports cars on the market today
Planning on getting this when I can afford one so in 20 years from now maybe xd
I sold my 2017 Toyota 86 and forked out the extra 20k for my new 2023 GTS GR86. Had to order before I knew the final specs. New upgraded motor is great but I no longer have any storage space, no satellite navigation and no spare wheel. Oh and I got the manual so missed out on some very key safety features only found in the automatic. I drive in rural areas all the time with no phone coverage so apple car play maps is useless to me. Found myself buying a map book for the first time in about 15 years and have to consider buying an aftermarket head unit for navigation. Really shocked by the downgrades in functionality Toyota. Would have bought the BRZ had I known.
BRZ has the same limitations as GR86
Bro turned into Sammy sprinkler @2:05
When he said the only people to fit in the back is a “person with no legs” meanwhile the person with no legs be like 🙄👀
I have a question about the gr86/brz track mode what is the difference of fully off to track mode do you recommended track mode for beginners?
Yooo wtf that a NV plate? I've got a red one! Hope to see you around!
It looks like an Updated 2004 mustang . I love my 24 raven
Throttle mapping at low rpm is artificially boosted for the sensation of torque and speed paired with the throttle input lag is horrible. I sold my Gr after 3 months. Not to mention the speakers are dam near useless. I wish they woulda spent more money on better electronics to reduce that lag.
Common, this is not a 28k car. You cleverly bypassed all the rip off items the dealers add to the price of car. Out the door price probably 35k.
Got mine MSRP no markup or required add ons
This is will be my car at december/gennuary (at least this is the idea) i'm really exited to get one of this (only sad part i will have to get a 2nd hand car becuase new it cost a bit too much for me right now)
Had a lot of fun in my 10th gen si, modded to the max, a lot of people say its not fast, but a little tuning of the turbo..it was plenty quick for me. unfortunately a lady totaled my car...and don't want to go through the grueling process of getting another si, and spending money on modding it again... any advice to someone who wants something different and sporty? I've always liked the look if the frs
get frs.
but if you choose not to thats fine just make sure you pick a car that you like, test drive it first
you could also try a wrx if the frs doesnt seem as appealing to you because the si probably had a quicker 0-60 than the frs does
Elantra N is always an option as well
Having such a hard time comparing this to a 2dr manual Jeep, two completely different cars😂
How is it compared to its BRZ counterpart? Is it mostly the same?
Hey man, I was thinking about getting a gr86, do you think the premium is worth it?
If you can afford it I think it’s worth the extra $2700. I couldn’t find one and I could live without some of the creature comforts so I went base
Depends on mods you want. If you’re going to replace rims/tires or seats within a year or 2 go base model. Only other difference is 2 speakers. Exhaust & subwoofer were my 1st mods so went with upper trim
I get why they did it but I do wish they had a normal glass sunroof. Since it is competing with Miata it would be nice to at least be able to feel the sun. I had a VW CC with no sunroof and would probably never buy a vehicle without one again.
$28,000 !!!??? It costs $81,000 in my country...sigh....
is that head unit aftermarket cus i dont think they offer navigation
Apple CarPlay on OEM headunit
I got a 2013 brz for sale with under 20k miles stock for sale if anyone is interested
Biggest issue with this car is the OEM Torsen differential, it is so trash/unstable/unpredictable, fortunately aftermarket clutch pack LSD are available.
Did you install one? What was the cost?
@@MeltingRubberZ28 Yes, I went with Cusco Type-RS years ago, 1.3k$ + 50$ for the bearings, got them installed for 20$, the rest of the install I did myself, 50$ for the backlash tool and paste (not required, I just wanted to double check), fluids, 1.5k$ total is a good estimate. If you get everything done by someone else I would say at least 2k$ maybe 2.5k$. Now the behavior of the car actually makes sense when attacking challenging sections at the track, it is a new, completely different car. Additional parts were needed to restore the balance of the car since the change is so large (especially with aggressive lock settings).
@@Iseenoobpeoples appreciate the insight
@@MeltingRubberZ28 Since the rear can take more load now, further increase the rear sway bar and rear spring rate, with no changes the outside rear was bottoming out. Also look at increasing rear squat. At the end, understeer and oversteer should be minimal. The car can handle 4 big semi-slicks when some effort is placed on the setup.
@Iseenoobpeoples I doubt I'll ever get to the point where I track an 86. I actually currently don't even own one, but am considering one. I did go from a Torsen diff to a clutch type and that was much improved on my Camaro years back.
i've got a bit of a problematic left hip and daily clutch use has caused me unbearable pain in the past... do you think i could still get a similar experience out of the automatic transmission?
I don’t get it, didn’t you say in a BRZ video I’ve seen that the steering is lacking? So how come in this video you claim it’s good? It’s the same steering exactly and both cars feel the same in that regard! 🤦♂️
How did you find a base model for MSRP. I’ve contacted 29 Toyota dealers in my area and the best deal I could get was a Premium model with $1500 in options (which I don’t need). That makes it a $37k car (tax included).
Mark Miller UT is where I bought mine
Now for someone that doesn’t know how to drive a manual transmission. would you recommend the automatic version still?
learn to drive a manual, plenty of places where you can learn. no reason to get the auto version
Is it a good car to learn how to drive manual?
Is it Palm Springs?
Where did you get this for 28k no markup?
this or elantra n for med school
Either would be great. Elantra has a bit more practicality. GR86 has FR layout and will be a better tool to improve driving (and I would argue FR is always more fun at the limit)
How times change! 😅
What about the rtv problem?
Explain rtv is it something I can prevent with oil changes and always giving the car the right gas?
No
how do you find empty spaces like that one?
the one at the start
how do you power slide like that?
..3:20.. Its like a "Clown Car"..😄
RTV issue?
None so far. I think the issue is overblown on social media
@@jubbalandcars Hoping it is. I've been obessing over it since I put in an order, but I'm over it now. Just looking foward to enjoying it.
That’s the way to do it! RTV oil starvation risk is quite low. Enjoy
People just want to make an issue. Don't believe them and just enjoy what you bought.
I definitely liked the older styling more. This gen is looking too much like a Hyundai Tiburon with some resemblance to the mx5.
🤨
These cars had $5k to $10k mark ups at the time he made the video and he has the audacity to call it “underrated”. A matter a fact the mark up was so high that for the same price I got a BMW 230i that had little hype behind it and it absolutely annihilates the GR86 in every metric. The 86 is the best sub $30k car but anything more and there are much better choices.
The AUDACITY!
lmao
Less than 230hp but fuel consumption is like it would have 460hp.
7" display are you kidding?