Im 22 years old catholic from the Philippines. My only question is, why did we abandoned this? This will lead to mass conversion and more spirit filled congregation.
When we grew up with it, we picked up a lot of Latin from the Mass and the many devotions common at the time. But changing to local languages was not bad in itself. That was the instruction of the Good Pope, John XXIII. The grave error came later in the Council, when Pope Paul VI allowed academics to destroy the very structure of the Mass that represented the spiritual heritage of two thousand years.
It was abandoned or abrogated because the theology and form of the Holy Mass was not acceptable to the Anglican Communion and Lutheran Churches and therefor an obstacle to the much desired unity of churches and ecumenism ( the concept and principle in which Christians who belong to different Christian denominations work together to develop closer relationships among their churches and promote Christian unity.) A form and wording had to be found that would be acceptable to those of other confessions i.e. mainly the Anglican Churches, and so the offertory prayers which made it abundantly clear that what was being done on our altars was a propitiatory sacrifice for the living and the dead had to go. That goes for the Placeat tibi Sancta Trinitas which was said before the dismissal. ‘Smacked too much of propitiation for the sins of the living and the dead which they did not like. Look up on the internet “Ottaviani Intervention (1969).” Cardinal Alfredo Cardinal Ottaviani of the Holy Office along with Cardinal Antonio Cardinal Bacci together with a group of Roman theologians did a crucial study of the new proposed order of the Mass and warned “the Novus Ordo, represents both as a whole, and in its details, a striking departure from the Catholic theology of the Mass as it was formulated in Session 22 of the Council of Trent". Among other points, the Study maintains that the faithful "never, absolutely never, asked that the liturgy be changed or mutilated to make it easier to understand."
@@paulbastier3773 It was to appease the Communists. WW11 and Communism were an allright attack on the Roman Rite Church Millions of Roman Catholics were murdered and about 800 000 Roman Catholic Jews. The Secret Societies Masonic Jews and Gentiles got hold of Germany invaded Poland and Marxist Jews set up Communism in Russia. Remember 70AD and Communism lasted 70 years but they intend blowing the Vatican into rubble. The Novus Ordo is a Counterfeit and the Abomination of Desolation It is not His Church. The Jewish Passover prayers that were said in the Temple in Jerusalem that Jesus attended with His Apostles on the night He was betrayed are in the Tridentine Mass.
Look at the wording of the 1570 bull Quo primum tempore of Pope Pius V. You can read it online. The language is unambiguous in canonizing the Tridentine Rite of Holy Mass as the rite to be university followed by the Latin Church worldwide, with a couple of exception for ancient rites like the Ambrosian, Mozarabic and Carthusian etc. One Bishop sent me a very offensive letter telling me that the congregations at Tridentine Masses were like on-looking dumb animals - he used the Latin word them stulti, not knowing what was going on at the altar. I replied to him that was an insult to my ancestors and the deceased faithful and if there was any confusion in the minds of the post Vatican II faithful about what the priest was doing at the altar, this could be blamed on the lack of Catholic education and catechesis. Jews and Muslims know well the advantages of having a universal language for their respective liturgies and educate and encourage their children from and early age. By the time they leave school both Jews and Muslims can recite from memory long passages from their sculptures and liturgies. In one Church in Malaysia I noted a list of Mass times outside a church. These were Mass in English, Malay, a South Indian language (Tamil), Mandarin Chinese and Philippines Tagalog. No Latin of course. Each community went to "their Mass" and if they missed that they would not go to another. A priest in one of the Arab Gulf States where I worked told me that he had to host a French priest who came out twice a year to celebrate Mass in French for the small French community working there. He said that there was a good turn out, and looking at me over the top of his spectacles said "but they don't come to Mass any other time."
We are lucky to still have some Bishops who are willing to celebrate a pontifical High Mass at the throne. As a former sacristan of an abbey I know how difficult it is prepare for and offer this kind of Holy Mass. It takes a lot of work, planning and patience. The MC or master of ceremonies, has to know every bodies role and position in the sanctuary during the liturgy and direct them around as necessary. It is quite and undertaking.
@@2SPetrvs I'm soo honored, unfortunately I did not seen the notification where it says that you have replied. Yes, this High Mass is how Christ illuminated his Church of highness in everything. Thank you, God bless also you and your family. Dominus Vobiscum! From Italy, Rome where unfortunately Masses like this are few and only in the city center. P.s. Unfortunately I also don't have more words to describe this Mass which is impossible to describe with words because it goes further, above the human perception and mind so it is only to our Lord's highness. I very like the Praefatio Paschalis!
There are still bishops and priests who are hostile to the celebration of the Tridentine Mass. For the older priests it was the rite and Mass of their ordination.
And now Bergoglio is trying to smash this Glory and Honor to God. From the Holy Council of Trent Session XXll, "If anyone remove or add to this Missal. He is Anathema!" I pray God intervenes and the Church restore the Mass according to the pre-1955 Missal.
Hello would it be okay if I shared this video on social media and give credit to the source. I want to help spread the beauty of the TLM on my page. God Bless
Awesome and so very Biblical. Mark 16:17 says that those who believe shall speak in other tongues. This can be miraculous, or also from a book. St Paul mentions books and parchments in Ii Timothy 4:13. If both Vatican II Catholics and Protestants could see this miracle of truth and beauty!
To think the church rejected this beautiful mass and replaced with what, a travesty. So sad. Hopefully one day a new Pope will restore the old mass and Catholics can once again be Catholic.
@@toddmiller5656 If I may suggest a semi old piece of literature. Take a read of st. Faustinas Diary. I am sure it is also on UA-cam. It opened me up to christs mercy. She wrote about a great act of mercy called "The Warning" which is also called "The Sign of the Son of Man" in the gospel. It will be a preparation for the second coming. God bless.
Two years in the future- yes, Pope Francis is losing it over “rigid” “restorationists” now. 😂 It’s hard for the hippies to let go of their pet project revolution. Pretty sad.
Beauty has a role to play in order to contemplate the mystery more effectually on this side of eternity; TC had done so much damage when so many Catholics only wished to attend; what was the harm done?
Gracias a Dios y al santo Papa Benedicto que le regresó a la Iglesia el patrimonio de la Santa Misa, sacrificio único, sangre santa legada en encargo por nuestros padres para revestir al hombre, ser insignificante, con los colores del Cielo
Anyone know the name of the final organ piece they play, when they are outside the church and are processing back to the sacristy to unvest the bishop?
The Jewish Passover prayers that were said in the Temple in Jerusalem that Jesus attended with His Apostles on the night He was betrayed are in the Tridentine Mass. He attended His Passover Prayers because the prayers are about Him. His Passover. He was arrested then. Jews worshipped the Messiah in advance.
I abandonned Catholic faith about 45 years ago. I am a freethinker, but I must recognize that Tridentine Mass is much more solemn, more beautiful and more "sacred". Generally speaking, new priest are from humble origins - which is not a crime, indeed - but they have no enough education nor the ability to understand the value of tradition. Roman Catholic church lost a lot when it eliminated Latin from its rituals.
I think it might be Suite Gothique by Leon Boellmann at the procession and the piece when the video starts sounds like prelude and fugue in e flat major by Bach, but I am not sure
No such Mass as Extraordinary Its Jewish Passover Prayers said in the Temple in Jerusalem Christ's Own Death Prayers . He attended yearly with His Apostles.
If I am seeing it right it is the deacon and sub deacon. They assist the celebrant at the altar. There are other priests in copes that assist in various capacities in the sanctuary.
No way! Ample vestments like gothic/borromean/neri/conical are much more traditional and fitting with the traditional mass. Of course there is room for all styles, and the fiddleback fits better in baroque style churches.
Grown men playing dress up is a fabulous sight - a visual treat - but the false piety as they mince around, relishing the campness, is terrifying. They should go to a drag bar - and leave the kids alone.
Im 22 years old catholic from the Philippines. My only question is, why did we abandoned this? This will lead to mass conversion and more spirit filled congregation.
It is now in practice in certain Churches in Quezon City such as Divine Mercy, Holy Family Parish and Our Lady of Victories.
F ur in manila sa quezon city meron Traditional Latin Mass. SSPX
You answered the question yourself, they don't want conversions, that's why they wanted to do away with this mass.
To be more in line with the spirit of modernism
Yes why
The beautiful thing about this Mass is that you don't need a translation - the same Mass in Africa, Asia, Europe and America
You just need a translation from Latin .!
When we grew up with it, we picked up a lot of Latin from the Mass and the many devotions common at the time. But changing to local languages was not bad in itself. That was the instruction of the Good Pope, John XXIII. The grave error came later in the Council, when Pope Paul VI allowed academics to destroy the very structure of the Mass that represented the spiritual heritage of two thousand years.
This is exactly what we used to say back then. Catholic really meant Catholic, universal.
Heaven on earth! The Tridentine Mass is an ultimate grace from God to human kind.
Amen
Oh my God
Why did we abandon this?
I got goosebumps every time a beautiful hymn plays.Bring back the Latin mass
It was abandoned or abrogated because the theology and form of the Holy Mass was not acceptable to the Anglican Communion and Lutheran Churches and therefor an obstacle to the much desired unity of churches and ecumenism ( the concept and principle in which Christians who belong to different Christian denominations work together to develop closer relationships among their churches and promote Christian unity.)
A form and wording had to be found that would be acceptable to those of other confessions i.e. mainly the Anglican Churches, and so the offertory prayers which made it abundantly clear that what was being done on our altars was a propitiatory sacrifice for the living and the dead had to go. That goes for the Placeat tibi Sancta Trinitas which was said before the dismissal. ‘Smacked too much of propitiation for the sins of the living and the dead which they did not like. Look up on the internet “Ottaviani Intervention (1969).” Cardinal Alfredo Cardinal Ottaviani of the Holy Office along with Cardinal Antonio Cardinal Bacci together with a group of Roman theologians did a crucial study of the new proposed order of the Mass and warned “the Novus Ordo, represents both as a whole, and in its details, a striking departure from the Catholic theology of the Mass as it was formulated in Session 22 of the Council of Trent". Among other points, the Study maintains that the faithful "never, absolutely never, asked that the liturgy be changed or mutilated to make it easier to understand."
@@paulbastier3773 It was to appease the Communists. WW11 and Communism were an allright attack on the Roman Rite Church Millions of Roman Catholics were murdered and about 800 000 Roman Catholic Jews. The Secret Societies Masonic Jews and Gentiles got hold of Germany invaded Poland and Marxist Jews set up Communism in Russia.
Remember 70AD and Communism lasted 70 years but they intend blowing the Vatican into rubble.
The Novus Ordo is a Counterfeit and the Abomination of Desolation It is not His Church. The Jewish Passover prayers that were said in the Temple in Jerusalem that Jesus attended with His Apostles on the night He was betrayed are in the Tridentine Mass.
@@philipjoseph8345 Vat II
The most beautiful thing in this side of the heaven. Congratulations to everyone involved.
Eternally Beautiful.
Always was.
Always is.
Always will be.
Compromise is not an option.
God bless the faithful.
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¡¡¡Que bella Eucaristía!!!, y el canto gregoriano una maravilla una solemnidad un acercamiento a lo divino, a mí Dios,
This is so beautiful i love it
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PRAISE GOD! Love from Sally in Yorkshire SSPX Manchester/ Preston
Sally Darley Love from FSSP Warrington Deo Gratias 🙏
I'm from sspx too
The Tridentine Mass, is the true Mass
Look at the wording of the 1570 bull Quo primum tempore of Pope Pius V. You can read it online. The language is unambiguous in canonizing the Tridentine Rite of Holy Mass as the rite to be university followed by the Latin Church worldwide, with a couple of exception for ancient rites like the Ambrosian, Mozarabic and Carthusian etc. One Bishop sent me a very offensive letter telling me that the congregations at Tridentine Masses were like on-looking dumb animals - he used the Latin word them stulti, not knowing what was going on at the altar. I replied to him that was an insult to my ancestors and the deceased faithful and if there was any confusion in the minds of the post Vatican II faithful about what the priest was doing at the altar, this could be blamed on the lack of Catholic education and catechesis. Jews and Muslims know well the advantages of having a universal language for their respective liturgies and educate and encourage their children from and early age. By the time they leave school both Jews and Muslims can recite from memory long passages from their sculptures and liturgies. In one Church in Malaysia I noted a list of Mass times outside a church. These were Mass in English, Malay, a South Indian language (Tamil), Mandarin Chinese and Philippines Tagalog. No Latin of course. Each community went to "their Mass" and if they missed that they would not go to another.
A priest in one of the Arab Gulf States where I worked told me that he had to host a French priest who came out twice a year to celebrate Mass in French for the small French community working there. He said that there was a good turn out, and looking at me over the top of his spectacles said "but they don't come to Mass any other time."
These is not Only very beautiful but you truly feel the presence of God.
So beautiful and reverent. I just love the latin mass! Deo gratias!
The Splendor of Holy Mother Church
Beautifully made and well edited! Keep it up!
Thank you! Oremus pro invicem!
We are lucky to still have some Bishops who are willing to celebrate a pontifical High Mass at the throne. As a former sacristan of an abbey I know how difficult it is prepare for and offer this kind of Holy Mass. It takes a lot of work, planning and patience. The MC or master of ceremonies, has to know every bodies role and position in the sanctuary during the liturgy and direct them around as necessary. It is quite and undertaking.
Awesome editing there!
The vestments are amazing!
Shepherds like this are needed in his mystical body
Bella, solenne, grandiosa!!! E lontana anni luce dai veleni del Vaticano II.
This is soo beautifull and solemn!!!
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@@2SPetrvs I'm soo honored, unfortunately I did not seen the notification where it says that you have replied. Yes, this High Mass is how Christ illuminated his Church of highness in everything. Thank you, God bless also you and your family. Dominus Vobiscum! From Italy, Rome where unfortunately Masses like this are few and only in the city center.
P.s. Unfortunately I also don't have more words to describe this Mass which is impossible to describe with words because it goes further, above the human perception and mind so it is only to our Lord's highness. I very like the Praefatio Paschalis!
There are still bishops and priests who are hostile to the celebration of the Tridentine Mass. For the older priests it was the rite and Mass of their ordination.
The editor and camera operators did a fairly good job of keeping the Novus Ordo alien spacecraft table out of shot.
Truly beautiful! Congrats!
We need this back in South Africa
I was the deacon at Solemn Mass and remember this Introit Salve Sancta Parens was sung.
beautiful from an eastern catholic :)
The Lord giveth and Pope Frankie taketh away.
wonderful!!! Deo gratias!
OREMUS PRO ECCLESIA, PRO VERA ECCLESIA. OREMUS PRO ANIMIS IN PURGATORIO.
beautiful
Bring back our mass!!!
Wonderful!
Que solemnidad me gusta Dios es santo y puro .
Qué hermosas palabras!!!
More of these!
And now Bergoglio is trying to smash this Glory and Honor to God. From the Holy Council of Trent Session XXll, "If anyone remove or add to this Missal. He is Anathema!" I pray God intervenes and the Church restore the Mass according to the pre-1955 Missal.
This is what the German Bishops should be more like
The spiritual weapon which defended christian Europe from previous Muslim armies and the only thing which will save it from the current Islamic horde
YOU FORGOT DEFENDED EUROPE FROM JEWS THE INNER FIFTH COLUMN....
God willing
Hello would it be okay if I shared this video on social media and give credit to the source. I want to help spread the beauty of the TLM on my page. God Bless
Youth wants tradition!!
With Gold😍! Like Jesus had!!🙏🙏🙏
Precioso!!!
Awesome and so very Biblical. Mark 16:17 says that those who believe shall speak in other tongues. This can be miraculous, or also from a book. St Paul mentions books and parchments in Ii Timothy 4:13. If both Vatican II Catholics and Protestants could see this miracle of truth and beauty!
My LORD and My GOD Mexico ❤️ YOU ❤️❤️❤️
Deo gratias!
To think the church rejected this beautiful mass and replaced with what, a travesty. So sad. Hopefully one day a new Pope will restore the old mass and Catholics can once again be Catholic.
I remember reading this gospel in Latin at a consecration ceremony
Not a Catholic but I concur. Bring back birettas! Bring back cassocks! Bring back Latin!............
Is Pope Francis having a screaming fit yet?
God bless you Todd Miller.
@@erathor9120 And may the Lord bless you as well.
@@toddmiller5656
If I may suggest a semi old piece of literature.
Take a read of st. Faustinas Diary. I am sure it is also on UA-cam.
It opened me up to christs mercy.
She wrote about a great act of mercy called "The Warning" which is also called "The Sign of the Son of Man" in the gospel. It will be a preparation for the second coming.
God bless.
Two years in the future- yes, Pope Francis is losing it over “rigid” “restorationists” now. 😂
It’s hard for the hippies to let go of their pet project revolution. Pretty sad.
Beauty has a role to play in order to contemplate the mystery more effectually on this side of eternity; TC had done so much damage when so many Catholics only wished to attend; what was the harm done?
"Ad Maiorem Dei Gloriam"!
Victory in jesus name amen
What piece is played on the organ during the introduction of the video? Thanks.
Wow no words
Oh, what a brilliant music during the Mass! Where can I get sheets or recordings, or even name of composer or cycle with that Kyrie from 3:40?
QUE HERMOSOS SON ESTOS RITOS !!!!!!!!
Does anyone know the organ piece played as a prelude during the Bishops investure?
12:54 guy on the left looks a bit like Prime Minister Scott Morrison. 😜 Blessings from Australia.
How many deacons and priests are required for a pontifical and a papal mass?
What is the hymn starting at 12:48? Thank you for the work you do!
It's the Regina Coeli (laetare alleluia).
What style of Kyrie eleison is used here?
Maybe you found out already but I thought I'd reply. It's the first Gregorian Chant Mass Setting: Lux et origo.
wonderful!! anyone know what's the name of the organ piece at 13:33 ?
It's an Improvisation at the end of "O filii et filiae".
Thomas Kröger i see,thank you
Does anyone knows, what is sung at 11:36? Sounds heavenly 😊
Beata Viscera (Communion for feasts of the BVM)
Gracias a Dios y al santo Papa Benedicto que le regresó a la Iglesia el patrimonio de la Santa Misa, sacrificio único, sangre santa legada en encargo por nuestros padres para revestir al hombre, ser insignificante, con los colores del Cielo
Anyone know the name of the final organ piece they play, when they are outside the church and are processing back to the sacristy to unvest the bishop?
O Filii
J. Tony Figueroa: It's an Improvisation at the end of "O filii et filiae".
What is the hymn starting at 2:53 ?
Salve Sancta Parens
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do you also know the hymn at 14:30?
@@MZONE991 Let me give you the answer. The chant is O Filii Et Filiae.
The Jewish Passover prayers that were said in the Temple in Jerusalem that Jesus attended with His Apostles on the night He was betrayed are in the Tridentine Mass. He attended His Passover Prayers because the prayers are about Him. His Passover. He was arrested then. Jews worshipped the Messiah in advance.
If I still believed in god, I would believe this is his favorite form of mass.
I abandonned Catholic faith about 45 years ago. I am a freethinker, but I must recognize that Tridentine Mass is much more solemn, more beautiful and more "sacred". Generally speaking, new priest are from humble origins - which is not a crime, indeed - but they have no enough education nor the ability to understand the value of tradition. Roman Catholic church lost a lot when it eliminated Latin from its rituals.
And the full video?
What is the Alleluia at the end?
It's the Regina Coeli.
Thomas Kröger thanks that one is definitely beautiful but I meant right at the very end where it’s only Alleluia Alleluia Alleluia
Oh, you mean: O filii et filiae?!
What’s the name of that song at the beginning of the video?
I think it might be Suite Gothique by Leon Boellmann at the procession and the piece when the video starts sounds like prelude and fugue in e flat major by Bach, but I am not sure
Heureusement que Dieu n'est pas venu pour se faire servir mais pour servir!
does anyone know what was played during the entrance procession ?
It's the first part of the Suite Gothique by Boëllmann.
The double double double mode and double window
How can he celebrate from the throne when he is not bishop of the place?
Yes, if the local Bishop allows this
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No such Mass as Extraordinary Its Jewish Passover Prayers said in the Temple in Jerusalem Christ's Own Death Prayers . He attended yearly with His Apostles.
I can’t help but think of the Bible chapter of Mathew 23.
merci abp lefebvre sspx
Who are them, the ones beside mgr pozzo at 1:42, what is their role on the solemn pontifical high mass?
If I am seeing it right it is the deacon and sub deacon. They assist the celebrant at the altar. There are other priests in copes that assist in various capacities in the sanctuary.
Deacon and sub-deacon. One symbolises Israel, the other the gentiles
You can watch our video about the role of the sub-deacon explained by an FSSP priest to learn more
These are Father Martin Reinecke and Father Chrysostomus Ripplinger OSB, assisting as deacons of the Throne.
JEDYNA MSZA ŚW. TRYDENCKA ,INNEJ NIE MA!
Ich feue mich dass die wahre Katolische
9:15 makes me so frustrated
why?
Frustrated? Are you sure?
Too bad the Gothic ornaments. Far less beautiful than Roman ornaments.
No way! Ample vestments like gothic/borromean/neri/conical are much more traditional and fitting with the traditional mass. Of course there is room for all styles, and the fiddleback fits better in baroque style churches.
@@Gratiamtuam exactly
Grown men playing dress up is a fabulous sight - a visual treat - but the false piety as they mince around, relishing the campness, is terrifying. They should go to a drag bar - and leave the kids alone.
Ah, the man-centred liturgy with a fake soundtrack.
Make sure your boy is always close to you during this.
Lame joke but you are right about the fact that there’s been a few wolves in sheep’s clothing in the clergy always
@@mrbaker7443 a few? allow me, they are A LOT.
Where can i get the full version?
🙏🙏🙏
There's no heaven or hell
Oh,how well dressed clowns!!!!!
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