There is something remarkable and humbling about a ceremony that recognizes even the King must kneel, that his sovereign power is only granted through divine authority. I did wish the recent coronation of King Charles was as sacred and grand as this.
@@RenanGuilherme-xn5gj What is wrong with masons? My Dad was a mason, so was his father and his father before him going back hundreds of years. Without masons civilization would not exist.
@@illvminatvs3194indeed it was. King Charles is now anointed and therefore truly king of God’s grace, though some humility aspects would have been better in addition to it all.
Real life I think this would’ve taken the whole time frame of the movie - a couple hours like priest ordinations, a beautiful summary of the ceremony all the same 👌
Thank you. A relief that there was no silly grinning like an ape but rather, properly sombre and at least on the face of it, mutual respect and support between church and state.
This scene takes place in the middle of the 15th century, at the time there were no Protestants, the British were also Catholics so the coronation of the kings of England is very similar to this coronation
@@AryanAleviZaza nothing. FACTS: Ever wonder about that deafning silence when the Archbishop of Reims crowned the King? It was because coronation wasn't the highlight of the French Coronation Ritual Ceremony. The highlight was the 'Sacre' or anointing of King with Holy Chrysm as video shows. This makes the French coronation unique compared to other such as the English or Russian. Like the Kings of Jerusalem, Kings were anointed not crowned, crowning just one of many minor rituals in the Sacre. After the coronation, the Archbishop approaches and kisses the new King's right hand symbolizing the Catholic position on submission to the authorities as Christ thaught in Matthew 22:15-22, Apostle-Pope St. Peter on 1 Peter 2:13-20 and Apostle St. Paul on Romans 13:1-7 (Knwon today as the "Divine Rights of Kings") yet it is kissed on right hand unlike other monarchies such as in England (left), pagan states (kowtowing or kissing the foot) to remind the King he got his authority from God and THE CHURCH IS THE BODY AND BRIDE OF CHRIST; THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE CLERGY AND THE KING (CO-GOVERNMENT).
I highly appreciate all the work they put into this to make it as historically accurate as possible, as opposed to all the strange, fast and sensationalist things we see today. I really felt like I was back in the church from my childhood again, and for once that wasn't a bad thing (have had some bad experiences there). Instead it was awe inspiring, and a pure piece of art.
@@bartsanders1553I believe it’s officially the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. England, Scotland, and Wales are considered Great Britain. Wales hasn’t had an independent ruler since the 11th century and wasn’t considered a proper kingdom by the English.
It’s a mass based on an old French folk tune warning of the dangers of roaming mercenaries - L’homme arme. Not sure who the composer is, but you can clearly hear the tune in the high shawms/trumpets.
As a Greek Orthodox Christian living in America I still think royal history and this ceremony are fascinating. We have a few different customs but are largely similar to you guys! Vive le roi!
charles 7 couronne a reims le 17 juillet 1429 GRACE A JEANNE D ARC. on voit jeanne jouee par sandrine bonnaie vers 4M 4M30; charles 7 est joue par andre marcon
Yes, I thought the same thing. Tree bishops give coronation to King. According to church canon three bishops are necessary to ordain a new pishop. New King has the right to tach the holy altar. It is because the church accepts the King as a member of clergy, actually as head of clergy.
Three bishops are not necessary to consecrate a bishops, but just recommended. The consecration would also be valid with only one consecrating bishops.
@@finkjulian of cource you have no idea about ecclesiastical canons. The 1st ecumenical consil: canon 4. "A bishop is to be chosen by all the bishops of the province, or at least by three, the rest giving by letter their assent ; but this choice must be confirmed by the Metropolitan". Also THE APOSTOLIC CANONS : Canon 1. "Let a bishop be ordained by two or three bishops".
I appreciate how well done and accurate this is, and also is amazing to see how we still keeping many of things and symbolism of this rites and ceremonys in the catholic church even almost 600 years after.
@@paulengstrom432 What do you mean? Do you know about Constantine the Great, Theodoric, Basil II, Justinian, Charlemagne, Charles Martel, Louis II, Louis IX, Henri IV, Louis XIV, Louis XVI, Charles II, Gustav III, Francis II, Catherine the Great, Frederick II, Peter I, Napoleon Bonaparte, Blessed Karl, and much more monarchs that done more great than what any democratically elected official today could have? Brazil is so corrupt with their democracy, many are wanting to go back in their Empire years, Lichtenstein's monarchy was and is so popular and active on managing the country more than the UK's that the last people's referendum on the monarchy gave them more power even today, and, Monacco is still monarchy today and prosperous, aswell as Saudi Arabia.
@@thekingshussar1808 Catherine the Great, and Napoleon Bonaparte were nothing more than usurpers Justinian was a stupid peasant who thinks he could restore the rome to the Empire but in doing so he crippled the Empire until the Heraclius otherwise great list. But Charles V and James I really needs to put in if we want to talk about divine right
The translation from the Latin: 5:15 Bishop: I anoint you as king with this sanctifying oil in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Choir: Amen. 5:58 Bishop: Almighty ever-living God, Governor of the heavens and maker of the earth, King of Kings. 9:10 Bishop: Zadok the priest and Nathan the prophet anointed Solomon king in Zion, and rejoicing said: (pause) May the King live forever! 11:50 Bishop: Receive the crown of the kingdom n the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Choir: Amen. 14:16 Bishop: May the King live forever!
4:10 It must have been a compelling image for Joan to see the man who is about to be King and the highest ranking bishop in France completely prostrate during the Litany
Fun fact: the English coronations, now the British coronations, took like 90% of all their traditions--like the anointing of the new monarch with holy oil, the whole very fancy procession before and after the proper coronation, etc.--from French coronations. The English saw what the French were doing and wanted to recreate most of it, which I suppose makes sense since William the Conqueror was French. All other European monarchs had far less fancy coronation ceremonies, with the other extreme being Spain and Portugal. In those nations there wasn't even a ceremony. The previous king would die and the new king would immediately assume power, no ceremony needed other than a short oath that didn't even have to be public. Spain and Portugal didn't even have crown jewels as a result since no coronation ever happened (but there is an imitation crown that the Spanish king would have at his side, but that he never wore, as he said the oath). But the Russians had the French beat. The Russians recreated Byzantine coronations, which were also long and elaborate, adding more French coronation stuff after Peter the Great turned the Russian court into a francophile paradise...
Portugal did have Crown jewels, but most have been lost or sold over the centuries (during various succession crises, the Lisbon earthquake, recent museum robbery in Netherlands, etc.).
That isnt true, actually Portugal still has crown jewls (even tho many where lost) and we had an aclamation instead of a coronation since the crown of the Portugal was ofered to the Holy Mary (Sorry i dont know how to translate) when Portugal won the war of restauration of 1640 against spain (The Iberian Union), since then the crown would never be placed on the kings head, but it would always be present right beside the king. Portugal had quite the procession, the delivery of the kingdom regalia and the oath. All the clergy and nobility had to be present and all had specific functions to oblige to.
Uh. William the Conqueror was a Norman, the concept of a King of France was quite a ways away in 1066! The British Coronation takes its elements back to Edgar's Coronation in 973 and before. The basic elements including the anointing also go back to the great Kings of Israel, including Solomon, as the song "Nathan the Prophet" informs us.
FACTS: Ever wonder about that deafning silence when the Archbishop of Reims crowned the King? It was because coronation wasn't the highlight of the French Coronation Ritual Ceremony. The highlight was the 'Sacre' or anointing of King with Holy Chrysm as video shows. This makes the French coronation unique compared to other such as the English or Russian. Like the Kings of Jerusalem, Kings were anointed not crowned, crowning just one of many minor rituals in the Sacre. After the coronation, the Archbishop approaches and kisses the new King's right hand symbolizing the Catholic position on submission to the authorities as Christ thaught in Matthew 22:15-22, Apostle-Pope St. Peter on 1 Peter 2:13-20 and Apostle St. Paul on Romans 13:1-7 (Knwon today as the "Divine Rights of Kings") yet it is kissed on right hand unlike other monarchies such as in England (left), pagan states (kowtowing or kissing the foot) to remind the King he got his authority from God and THE CHURCH IS THE BODY AND BRIDE OF CHRIST; THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE CLERGY AND THE KING (CO-GOVERNMENT).
The kings of England were anointed as well. Still are, at least up to and including Her present Majesty. Her son may well choose not to be crowned at all, and just to have an official First Day at the Office.
In the British rite the anointing is considered so sacred it is hidden from view by cloth of gold borne by four Garter knights & why The Queen believes she cannot abdicate - the anointing is a contract with God.
The monarchs of Britain are anointed the same,when Elizabeth the second was crowned In 1953 ,the camera panned away when the anointing was done as it seen as too sacred to be filmed.
Also an orthodox and agree that Greece and other Eastern European nations should regain constitutional monarchs as it it is part of their culture. I also support my brothers in the Catholic Church as well we are not that different but for some reason we became rivals
So Glad to chance upon your Channel. It's always heartening to find other Monarchists. May The Monarchy return everywhere, and may The Queens & Kings be worthy of the honor of The Crown; that They will be beyond reproach, Divinely inspired; pure of Heart with Divine Wisdom . Thank you for all your wonderful Posts.
@@WilliamRing45 so monarch alive about more than thousand years and all strong country in the world all monarch before and still you have no ancestor .
And so was the pledge of fealty of the Prince of Wales, including the kiss. It was just that kiss given by King Harold to St Edward which led to the Battle of Hastings and the Norman Conquest!
Si El monarca coronado hubiese imaginado el final de la Corona de Francia... por una visión celeste, por inspiracion divina... le hubiese dado una apoplegía.
It is hardly "historically faithful". I can list dozens of little details in the clip that don't fit Catholic ceremonies. Te Deum is usually sung at the end of the ceremonies, not at the beginning. The skull cap is always worn under the mitre. In the clip, however, they put the mitre directly above their heads. And bishops don't put on the mitres by themselves. The episcopal ring is not worn under the glove. When the gloves are put on, the ring is worn outside the gloves. The Litany of the Saints begins with some verses of Kyrie Eleison and Christe Eleison, and unlike in the clip, the Holy Trinity is invoked before the saints. Also during the Litany, everyone is supposed to be kneeling while the future king is prostrating. ...
@@David-db8zr I agree... however most of time, it was a payment made to absolve the sins and naturally to avoid purgatory. No wonder there was a split within the Church.
I'd settle for a day when France is some relevance among the nations of the world and ceases the current political bullshit from the far right and neo Nazis.
Physical existence is not the same as socioeconomic relevance. France has, long, ago, descended into self-serving glorification: relying solely on their status 200 years ago.
No offense, but I pray that your prayer never comes true. I can only imagine how much time, work, and resources were wasted on pointless ceremonies like this that did nothing but give aristocrats opportunity to indulge themselves, lol.
@@agent.-_-5846 Or both. If its not some fat aristo who never did any work in his/her life or a politician who got his cushy position cause he just made some promises about walls being built or freebies or tax cuts. If France wants a king again fine. Just make sure they don't get enslaved and slitched like they did in the middle ages.
monarchy should not be restored, except by the public... pseduo or quasi monarchs , have returned to the balkans, princess magurite in romania and her family....of former king michael of romania** in serbia: crown prince aleksandar karadjorge* and his family living in a state owned palace*, in bulgaria former tsar-king simeon II of bulgaria, living in mansion and estate pseudo owned by the state... in greece, former king constantine living partly in greece, but with tatoi in disputed ownership, so for france, the borbons returning* with no real powers, only ceremonial roles and living in palaces or museums owned by the republic** that is the story of monarchy in the balkan regions after communism*...
William Ring Jr. Yes the freedom too work in a depressing office cubical only finding solace in sexual promiscuity and the consumption of pills and unhealthy food until my arteries clog and I die at 70 from the asbestos in the walls is very liberating. Because hey at least now I have the “freedom” to be a useless degenerate and still be considered a functional human being by a broken society
@@EvilChudChimp if that's all that 'freedom" can mean for you, then your imagination is severely limited and your outlook entirely nihilistic. So, we should surrender all of our agency to a dictator in order to lead meaningful lives? Now, there is a degenerate, broken society for you. No thanks. You seem ready for meaningful slavery.
@@WilliamRing45 Submission to a monarch is not slavery. We submit ourselves regularly to those who we did not elect. In government there are bureaucrats. In the private sphere there are our parents. Are we "slaves" when we submit to lawful authority such as these? No. Then neither are the subjects of the crown. Kings are merely a reflection of human nature. They occupy the archetype of the father, like God. This is why we call God our Father as well as the King of Kings. Even if you are not Christian, you cannot deny that monarchy is the most natural form of government, appearing in every culture throughout the world and with a much more stable and long lasting track record when compared with divisive republics. And this is the sort of freedom which is chaos. There is the classical "freedom of excellence." That is a healthy freedom. But then there is the freedom of the enlightenment. Ask those living in revolutionary France how much freedom was worth. Ask the American slaves who probably wish they still lived under the English crown, since slaves were freed under that supposedly tyrannical country before they were freed in the purported land of the free. When monarchists say freedom is degenerate, it is in this classically liberal enlightenment sense where all is permissible. Monarchists strive for freedom as well, but it is freedom of the classical sort; of freedom of excellence; what the ancients would call "the good life."
We don't name this ceremony "coronation" or "couronnement" in french but "sacre" as if the king was sacred as something of a semi-god. It goes back to the first king of the franks, Clovis who was baptized at the end of the fith century in Reims.
@Brexiteer well if you look at history there have been many more successful empires and kingdoms than republics. Also if you we had a good king/queen then he/she wouldn't have to worry about other politicians and they could just do what the people wanted. For example in the US people need relief covid relief but Republicans don't wanna give it to us and they have to "vote" to give it to us. If a king had power then he could just give to the people without going through so much bullshit.
@Brexiteer now i understand with having a hereditary monarchy that we are just rolling the dice and could easily get a bad ruler but I would recommend we did it like ancient Rome did. In ancient Rome the current Emperor would select his own successor and then adopt him as his child. He would pick a person he thought would be sane and good for the people.
@@arolemaprarath6615 That statement is full of contradictions. And its foolish, submit ourselves to a government that basically is ran by the highest bidder? The only way to the top is through lies, bribery, etc. Instability by power hunger fools that weren’t raised or born to rule. Tyranny of the many is a dangerous path as we see today.
@@nibbanibba7202 It would be a nonsense. Monarchism is outside the republican game of the party. But if you really want a monarchist party, nothing avoid you to create your own.
A more apt answer would be, "Nope! I'm a dumbass sheep." Monarchs poop just like you. However, they rely upon people like you to wipe their asses. Louis XIV actually had such a designe. "Such an honor, your majesty!"
FACTS: Ever wonder about that deafning silence when the Archbishop of Reims crowned the King? It was because coronation wasn't the highlight of the French Coronation Ritual Ceremony. The highlight was the 'Sacre' or anointing of King with Holy Chrysm as video shows. This makes the French coronation unique compared to other such as the English or Russian. Like the Kings of Jerusalem, Kings were anointed not crowned, crowning just one of many minor rituals in the Sacre. After the coronation, the Archbishop approaches and kisses the new King's right hand symbolizing the Catholic position on submission to the authorities as Christ thaught in Matthew 22:15-22, Apostle-Pope St. Peter on 1 Peter 2:13-20 and Apostle St. Paul on Romans 13:1-7 (Knwon today as the "Divine Rights of Kings") yet it is kissed on right hand unlike other monarchies such as in England (left), pagan states (kowtowing or kissing the foot) to remind the King he got his authority from God and THE CHURCH IS THE BODY AND BRIDE OF CHRIST; THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE CLERGY AND THE KING (CO-GOVERNMENT).
@@mgr.slavomirmacha-magnome9065 Most Croatian monarchist would opt for Habsburgs too! In case we both revert to monarchy, do you think we could again have the same person as the king, or should we each elect a different member of their family?
FRAGIORGIO1 Nice... anyway I don’t know how not to make this sound awkward but as a Catholic you shouldn’t be saving all those vids of immodest women dancing in bikinis etc... I suggest looking into some good traditional sermons on purity. Our lady of Fatima says more fall into hell for sins of the flesh than any other. Hope this doesn’t rub the wrong way. Pax
@@paulengstrom432 which one, the first, second, third, fourth or fifth republic? The greatest time France ever had was under monarchs, the worst under Republicans.
@@nibbanibba7202 The ruling of the current communist party is unsatisfactory to traditions and cultures that we Chinese cherish very dearly, the nationalist government on the other hand was weak, and bowing down to westernisation. So I'd see an ideal Chinese government with a Constitutional Monarchy, and how about you about Guatemala?
@@michaelfisher7170 Yikes! The French Revolution was a bloody atheist war that martyred thousands of Catholics. It was awful! The world has never been the same.
@11:28 @12:08 I can only surmise that the director instructed the crowd extras that France was a very unstable country in the early 15th century, but this is taking it a little too literally. This is what happens when untrained actors are instructed to "Act like a crowd", and each individual then proceeds to act like they're a crowd.
FACTS: Ever wonder about that deafning silence when the Archbishop of Reims crowned the King? It was because coronation wasn't the highlight of the French Coronation Ritual Ceremony. The highlight was the 'Sacre' or anointing of King with Holy Chrysm as video shows. This makes the French coronation unique compared to other such as the English or Russian. Like the Kings of Jerusalem, Kings were anointed not crowned, crowning just one of many minor rituals in the Sacre. After the coronation, the Archbishop approaches and kisses the new King's right hand symbolizing the Catholic position on submission to the authorities as Christ thaught in Matthew 22:15-22, Apostle-Pope St. Peter on 1 Peter 2:13-20 and Apostle St. Paul on Romans 13:1-7 (Knwon today as the "Divine Rights of Kings") yet it is kissed on right hand unlike other monarchies such as in England (left), pagan states (kowtowing or kissing the foot) to remind the King he got his authority from God and THE CHURCH IS THE BODY AND BRIDE OF CHRIST; THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE CLERGY AND THE KING (CO-GOVERNMENT).
@@galleryguide9913 Yes just as recently, Charles' coronation but the british ritual do it privately it appears the brits are trying to not being too French in their ritual despite being heavily influenced hy the French.
The English coronation ceremony, still used for the UK, is based on the coronation of Charlemagne, as emperor of the Franks in Rome in 800 and dates from 973, 14 years before the Kingdom of France was declared under Hugh Capet. Before that date those lands were the western part of the partitioned Frankish Empire (West Francia). I think it is truer to say the two ceremonies had common roots in Frankish (not French) traditions, though the original ceremony must have been devised in Rome as it is reported that Charlemagne himself did not have prior knowledge of what was going to happen.
@@galleryguide9913 The English (originating in 973 AD) and French ceremonies were modelled on Frankish coronations taking place before the western part of the Empire broke off and called itself the Kingdom of France in 987. They were not modelled on each other. The ultimate model was the coronation of Charlemagne conducted by the Pope in Rome in 800 AD.
Fun fact: the British coronations, took like 100% of all their traditions--like the anointing of the new monarch with holy oil, the whole very fancy procession before and after the proper coronation, etc.--from French coronations. The English saw what the French were doing and wanted to recreate most of it, which I suppose makes sense since William the Conqueror was French. All other European monarchs had far less fancy coronation ceremonies, with the other extreme being Spain and Portugal. In those nations there was even a ceremony. The previous king would die and the new king would immediately assume power. Spain and Portugal did even have crown jewels as a result since the coronation ever happened. But the Russians had the French beat. The Russians recreated Byzantine coronations, which were also long and elaborate, adding more French coronation stuff after Peter the Great turned the Russian court into a francophile paradise...
The English coronation rites predate the French ones and having nothing to do with William of Normandy who would never have described himself as "French" even though he owed technical allegiance to the French king! The present British coronation rite (formerly English), well established before tge Norman conquest, was produced by St Dunstan in 973, 14 years before France officially existed but there is an even earlier one. Both are inspired by the coronation of the Frankish emperors, notably Charlemagne. The anointing with oil existed from the very start. It did not come from the French coronation rite.
I'm so glad that britain still performs ceremonies that are so similar to this (i am a history buff and i love the middle ages) sadly the woke people forced king charles' to be toned down. It is a sacred moment that represents humility in the eyes of god. It should be left as is. Long live the King!
@@baudoindepreroyal1938 Pourtant , question facile ? '' Vive le Roy ! Vive le Royaume de France'' ! ----- C'est au présent...!! Il y a certainement des descendants , des héritiers, aujourd'hui des derniers Rois de France ? Ce n'est pas une question-piège !!
He should be wearing one straight down (like most priests today) as opposed to one side crossed over the other (like priests are supposed to). And he isn't wearing a pectoral cross. Also now that I look at it again, I think he might be wearing a cassock-alb instead of a real alb (like the king wore I'm the beginning).
I noticed today from a historical document about the crowning of Charles VI that the bishops wore no stoles, as in this movie. I wonder if there were copes without hanging "hoods".behind.
@@FRAGIORGIO1 huh, that's peculiar. Treating the alb like a surplice then? Admittedly I don't know much about the history of copes. But I know that syriac and ethiopian copes have a sort of "hood" thing as well, and that leads me to believe it was probably an early development.
There is something remarkable and humbling about a ceremony that recognizes even the King must kneel, that his sovereign power is only granted through divine authority. I did wish the recent coronation of King Charles was as sacred and grand as this.
This is impossible, your king is a Mason and a revolutionary, his dynasty was elected by a parliament in the glorious revolution.
It might not have been as grand (there's a reason for that) but it was certainly just as sacred
@@RenanGuilherme-xn5gj What is wrong with masons? My Dad was a mason, so was his father and his father before him going back hundreds of years. Without masons civilization would not exist.
@@illvminatvs3194indeed it was.
King Charles is now anointed and therefore truly king of God’s grace, though some humility aspects would have been better in addition to it all.
@@RenanGuilherme-xn5gjyou really believe Freemasonry bullshit?
Most movies: one minute scene, tops.
This movie: let's do it right, shall we? It's history.
joan the maid with sandrine bonnaire a masterpiece the best joan of arc movie
Real life I think this would’ve taken the whole time frame of the movie - a couple hours like priest ordinations, a beautiful summary of the ceremony all the same 👌
As movies should do
Not the whole ceremony, but it’s very clearly cut, so to make it clear, things are missing.
This is a beautiful summary of a beautiful ceremony
Thank you. A relief that there was no silly grinning like an ape but rather, properly sombre and at least on the face of it, mutual respect and support between church and state.
This scene takes place in the middle of the 15th century, at the time there were no Protestants, the British were also Catholics so the coronation of the kings of England is very similar to this coronation
Are you british?
@@anyaforger8409 No I'm not British, why this question?
@@AryanAleviZaza nothing.
FACTS:
Ever wonder about that deafning silence when the Archbishop of Reims crowned the King? It was because coronation wasn't the highlight of the French Coronation Ritual Ceremony. The highlight was the 'Sacre' or anointing of King with Holy Chrysm as video shows. This makes the French coronation unique compared to other such as the English or Russian. Like the Kings of Jerusalem, Kings were anointed not crowned, crowning just one of many minor rituals in the Sacre. After the coronation, the Archbishop approaches and kisses the new King's right hand symbolizing the Catholic position on submission to the authorities as Christ thaught in Matthew 22:15-22, Apostle-Pope St. Peter on 1 Peter 2:13-20 and Apostle St. Paul on Romans 13:1-7 (Knwon today as the "Divine Rights of Kings") yet it is kissed on right hand unlike other monarchies such as in England (left), pagan states (kowtowing or kissing the foot) to remind the King he got his authority from God and THE CHURCH IS THE BODY AND BRIDE OF CHRIST; THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE CLERGY AND THE KING (CO-GOVERNMENT).
Not really the same...
There was no Britain in the 15th century.
This movies are incredible. More people should see it because it's the best I've seen of Joan of Arc on film.
sandrine bonnaire is great in joan the maid
I highly appreciate all the work they put into this to make it as historically accurate as possible, as opposed to all the strange, fast and sensationalist things we see today. I really felt like I was back in the church from my childhood again, and for once that wasn't a bad thing (have had some bad experiences there). Instead it was awe inspiring, and a pure piece of art.
How fitting UA-cam would recommend me this video just after the Coronation of Charles III of England
Same here😁
*of the United Kingdom of England, Scotland and Northern Ireland(but not Wales for some reason).
@@bartsanders1553I believe it’s officially the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. England, Scotland, and Wales are considered Great Britain. Wales hasn’t had an independent ruler since the 11th century and wasn’t considered a proper kingdom by the English.
@@ehschlect Yeah, I was being cheeky.
@@bartsanders1553 sorry to be pedantic Bart. Not a trait I admire in myself. I don’t know why I do that
The mass is very well sung. Ars Nova. Congrats to the crew and the director of the film, he put a lot of care in the ceremony and the rite.
It’s a mass based on an old French folk tune warning of the dangers of roaming mercenaries - L’homme arme. Not sure who the composer is, but you can clearly hear the tune in the high shawms/trumpets.
As a Greek Orthodox Christian living in America I still think royal history and this ceremony are fascinating. We have a few different customs but are largely similar to you guys! Vive le roi!
I wish France was a Monarch today.
Its so sad & such a shame its not anymore.
As a monarchist, the monarchy had nobody to blame but themselves.
Sainte Jeanne et Sainte Louis IX, priez pour nous.
charles 7 couronne a reims le 17 juillet 1429 GRACE A JEANNE D ARC. on voit jeanne jouee par sandrine bonnaie vers 4M 4M30; charles 7 est joue par andre marcon
This coronation ceremony is very much similar to a ordination of a priest and the consecration of a bishop. The parallel is fascinating.
David
Actually, very similar to a Sacrament! Particularly, the consecration of a bishop.
Yes, I thought the same thing. Tree bishops give coronation to King. According to church canon three bishops are necessary to ordain a new pishop. New King has the right to tach the holy altar. It is because the church accepts the King as a member of clergy, actually as head of clergy.
Three bishops are not necessary to consecrate a bishops, but just recommended. The consecration would also be valid with only one consecrating bishops.
@@finkjulian of cource you have no idea about ecclesiastical canons.
The 1st ecumenical consil:
canon 4.
"A bishop is to be chosen by all the bishops of the province, or at least by three, the rest giving by letter their assent ; but this choice must be confirmed by the Metropolitan".
Also
THE APOSTOLIC CANONS :
Canon 1.
"Let a bishop be ordained by two or three bishops".
Well, prior to the Schism of Henry VII, Kingship was a Holy gift from the Almighty God of Israel to Europe. For Christ is King, Prophet, and Priest.
I appreciate how well done and accurate this is, and also is amazing to see how we still keeping many of things and symbolism of this rites and ceremonys in the catholic church even almost 600 years after.
Disons 230 ans, sans compter les rois constitutionnels.
I can't say how much I loved this, and I'm American. So gloriously reactionary, and unashamed.
yes
never forget we reject all such "divine right" bullshit. looks pretty in a movie, in reality not so much.
@@paulengstrom432 What do you mean? Do you know about Constantine the Great, Theodoric, Basil II, Justinian, Charlemagne, Charles Martel, Louis II, Louis IX, Henri IV, Louis XIV, Louis XVI, Charles II, Gustav III, Francis II, Catherine the Great, Frederick II, Peter I, Napoleon Bonaparte, Blessed Karl, and much more monarchs that done more great than what any democratically elected official today could have? Brazil is so corrupt with their democracy, many are wanting to go back in their Empire years, Lichtenstein's monarchy was and is so popular and active on managing the country more than the UK's that the last people's referendum on the monarchy gave them more power even today, and, Monacco is still monarchy today and prosperous, aswell as Saudi Arabia.
@@thekingshussar1808
Catherine the Great, and Napoleon Bonaparte were nothing more than usurpers
Justinian was a stupid peasant who thinks he could restore the rome to the Empire but in doing so he crippled the Empire until the Heraclius
otherwise great list. But Charles V and James I really needs to put in if we want to talk about divine right
@@paulengstrom432 Electing a senile old fool such as Joe Biden is hardly an improvement.
The translation from the Latin:
5:15 Bishop: I anoint you as king with this sanctifying oil in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Choir: Amen.
5:58 Bishop: Almighty ever-living God, Governor of the heavens and maker of the earth, King of Kings.
9:10 Bishop: Zadok the priest and Nathan the prophet anointed Solomon king in Zion, and rejoicing said: (pause) May the King live forever!
11:50 Bishop: Receive the crown of the kingdom n the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Choir: Amen.
14:16 Bishop: May the King live forever!
4:10 It must have been a compelling image for Joan to see the man who is about to be King and the highest ranking bishop in France completely prostrate during the Litany
Fun fact: the English coronations, now the British coronations, took like 90% of all their traditions--like the anointing of the new monarch with holy oil, the whole very fancy procession before and after the proper coronation, etc.--from French coronations. The English saw what the French were doing and wanted to recreate most of it, which I suppose makes sense since William the Conqueror was French. All other European monarchs had far less fancy coronation ceremonies, with the other extreme being Spain and Portugal. In those nations there wasn't even a ceremony. The previous king would die and the new king would immediately assume power, no ceremony needed other than a short oath that didn't even have to be public. Spain and Portugal didn't even have crown jewels as a result since no coronation ever happened (but there is an imitation crown that the Spanish king would have at his side, but that he never wore, as he said the oath). But the Russians had the French beat. The Russians recreated Byzantine coronations, which were also long and elaborate, adding more French coronation stuff after Peter the Great turned the Russian court into a francophile paradise...
s-spainbros... i don't feel so good...
Portugal did have Crown jewels, but most have been lost or sold over the centuries (during various succession crises, the Lisbon earthquake, recent museum robbery in Netherlands, etc.).
That isnt true, actually Portugal still has crown jewls (even tho many where lost) and we had an aclamation instead of a coronation since the crown of the Portugal was ofered to the Holy Mary (Sorry i dont know how to translate) when Portugal won the war of restauration of 1640 against spain (The Iberian Union), since then the crown would never be placed on the kings head, but it would always be present right beside the king. Portugal had quite the procession, the delivery of the kingdom regalia and the oath. All the clergy and nobility had to be present and all had specific functions to oblige to.
Uh. William the Conqueror was a Norman, the concept of a King of France was quite a ways away in 1066! The British Coronation takes its elements back to Edgar's Coronation in 973 and before. The basic elements including the anointing also go back to the great Kings of Israel, including Solomon, as the song "Nathan the Prophet" informs us.
I don’t think you should use the word ‘ fancy’ when describing a royal coronation.
This is the true France, Monarchist, Catholic, Traditionalist. Vive le Roi
@bearpapie69 Savez-vous que la diffamation est un crime ?
But now France is getting Islamized by Muslim immigrant massive.
@@reinedegypte wait what?
don't talk about our religion 🤲🏼
bearpapie69 Oui Oui la misma république sanglante de France catastrophique
@bearpapie69 mdr
FACTS:
Ever wonder about that deafning silence when the Archbishop of Reims crowned the King? It was because coronation wasn't the highlight of the French Coronation Ritual Ceremony. The highlight was the 'Sacre' or anointing of King with Holy Chrysm as video shows. This makes the French coronation unique compared to other such as the English or Russian. Like the Kings of Jerusalem, Kings were anointed not crowned, crowning just one of many minor rituals in the Sacre. After the coronation, the Archbishop approaches and kisses the new King's right hand symbolizing the Catholic position on submission to the authorities as Christ thaught in Matthew 22:15-22, Apostle-Pope St. Peter on 1 Peter 2:13-20 and Apostle St. Paul on Romans 13:1-7 (Knwon today as the "Divine Rights of Kings") yet it is kissed on right hand unlike other monarchies such as in England (left), pagan states (kowtowing or kissing the foot) to remind the King he got his authority from God and THE CHURCH IS THE BODY AND BRIDE OF CHRIST; THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE CLERGY AND THE KING (CO-GOVERNMENT).
The kings of England were anointed as well. Still are, at least up to and including Her present Majesty. Her son may well choose not to be crowned at all, and just to have an official First Day at the Office.
@@jesusthroughmary that would be rather sad, even Japan still has its coronation ceremony
In the British rite the anointing is considered so sacred it is hidden from view by cloth of gold borne by four Garter knights & why The Queen believes she cannot abdicate - the anointing is a contract with God.
The monarchs of Britain are anointed the same,when Elizabeth the second was crowned In 1953 ,the camera panned away when the anointing was done as it seen as too sacred to be filmed.
@@bazzatheblue I think a little to intimate too for the Queen who has to be anointed on the chest or bossom.
I'm not a monarchist, but I still enjoyed watching this scene. Very interesting and moving. Thank you for sharing.
Thats what most monarchists used to say before their convertion.
Sempre fui e serei monarquista, detesto a máfia republicana.
@@dinizklein950 vive la monarchie, vive le roi !
Monarchism will prevail Long Live The King!
Long live monarchy, long live king, long live Christ the king!
Thank you for this - an Orthodox monarchist.
--They all await theri restoration !
@@FRAGIORGIO1 they are orthodox Catholics...
@@kohoutektv ---I was talking about the monarchies of Russia, Bulgaria, Serbia, Romania, and Greece. What are you talking about ?
Also an orthodox and agree that Greece and other Eastern European nations should regain constitutional monarchs as it it is part of their culture. I also support my brothers in the Catholic Church as well we are not that different but for some reason we became rivals
And thank you from a catholic who feels close his orthodox brothers
The King's sacre. This is too beautiful!
Coronation? This is just me being dressed every morning
Absolutely Glorious!!! Long live all Monarchs and Monarchies!!!
HRE Forever💯
nah fuck em
Love your channel. 💙
Vive le Roi! ⚜️
Thanks!
@@godkingandcountry7081 Vive Le Roy!
Et sa famille.
@@SorMarchese Vive Robespierre !
@@kornofulgur Also a fan of public executions? Like Trump? He's absolutely right. We need a guillotine in front of every capitol building again.
A splendid recreation of this event. Although the nave of Rheims seems a bit narrow, I could get the sense of being there. Thank you so very much.
Greatings from a Brazilian monarchist!!!
if it's God's will, the Orléans-Braganza will be back to power.
So Glad to chance upon your Channel. It's always heartening to find other Monarchists. May The Monarchy return everywhere, and may The Queens & Kings be worthy of the honor of The Crown; that They will be beyond reproach, Divinely inspired; pure of Heart with Divine Wisdom . Thank you for all your wonderful Posts.
Now this is all a bit silly, monarchists? Is this ideological relic of our forefathers still cherished by supposedly modern men?
@@wokeeye6441 so become modern is forgett about out accenter then no
Such a monarch has never existed. Absolute power always corrupts absolutely. God doesn't give a shit.
@@WilliamRing45 so monarch alive about more than thousand years and all strong country in the world all monarch before and still you have no ancestor .
@@AnhNguyen-kx5rx your English could use some work. Rather garbled. Strong people do not need to live in the shadow of a strongman.
Love coming back to this once in a while, one of the turning points in making me a monarchist.
And so was the pledge of fealty of the Prince of Wales, including the kiss. It was just that kiss given by King Harold to St Edward which led to the Battle of Hastings and the Norman Conquest!
Wow I got chills
This is better than Charles’ coronation!
Si El monarca coronado hubiese imaginado el final de la Corona de Francia... por una visión celeste, por inspiracion divina... le hubiese dado una apoplegía.
Es magnífico. Así debería ser siempre.
Greatings from an italian monarchist
cks 782 I prefer the return of the Papal States
Mi dispiace ma non riesco a sentire quella pronuncia latina. Orrenda 😢
@@marcotuliomacedobicalhomar8320 But the Papal States still exist but the nation shrunk
@@marcotuliomacedobicalhomar8320 um no
@@tylerchurch2373 They don't. Most of the land was taken by the garibaldians.
Very well done. Good use of music. Historically faithful, but not off putting (sometimes that medieval polyphony can sound a bit alien)
Random musical pieces sung at random times. Also why isn't the bishop singing his parts? The choir is singing the responses
It is hardly "historically faithful". I can list dozens of little details in the clip that don't fit Catholic ceremonies.
Te Deum is usually sung at the end of the ceremonies, not at the beginning.
The skull cap is always worn under the mitre. In the clip, however, they put the mitre directly above their heads.
And bishops don't put on the mitres by themselves.
The episcopal ring is not worn under the glove. When the gloves are put on, the ring is worn outside the gloves.
The Litany of the Saints begins with some verses of Kyrie Eleison and Christe Eleison, and unlike in the clip, the Holy Trinity is invoked before the saints.
Also during the Litany, everyone is supposed to be kneeling while the future king is prostrating.
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Jordi Savall is the musical director. Marvellous.
This is Catholoiscm at its finest. Salve Regina !
Salve Regina Elizabeth Secunda
remember indulgences? We still have them..and I thank God everyday for that fact!!
@@RayB1656 It was a misuse of indulgences when they were used for purchasing salvation.
@@davidniedjaco9869 Indulgences are not from GOD, an invention of Man !
@@David-db8zr I agree... however most of time, it was a payment made to absolve the sins and naturally to avoid purgatory. No wonder there was a split within the Church.
The days when France was France!
I'd settle for a day when France is some relevance among the nations of the world and ceases the current political bullshit from the far right and neo Nazis.
Last time I looked on the map she was still there !
Actually it was pretty messed up then, too !
Now France belongs to Arabs and Africans because majority of the French poeple want it like that. Only those who voted Le Pen has a pure heart.
Physical existence is not the same as socioeconomic relevance. France has, long, ago, descended into self-serving glorification: relying solely on their status 200 years ago.
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pablononescobar, Hahahahaha
Kkkkkkkkkkk
@pablononescobar They are getting that sharp wooden contraption ready for some business.
Robespierre is great!
I confused Jacoban for Jacobite for a second and was confused asf
Oh holly tradition!
Whoever restored and colorized the film did a great job!!
Yes, I am joking! Yes, I know this is from a movie.
There are "restoration one" of this video
I pray for the day when France comes to her senses and restores her Monarch . Also i pray that ALL of Europe restores her different Monarchs.
No offense, but I pray that your prayer never comes true. I can only imagine how much time, work, and resources were wasted on pointless ceremonies like this that did nothing but give aristocrats opportunity to indulge themselves, lol.
Chris Markwardt
Whereas those resources could go towards corrupt politicians who have 0 care for their country.
@@agent.-_-5846 Or both. If its not some fat aristo who never did any work in his/her life or a politician who got his cushy position cause he just made some promises about walls being built or freebies or tax cuts. If France wants a king again fine. Just make sure they don't get enslaved and slitched like they did in the middle ages.
Ken DelloSandri совсем что ли...
monarchy should not be restored, except by the public...
pseduo or quasi monarchs , have returned to the balkans, princess magurite in romania and her family....of former king michael of romania**
in serbia: crown prince aleksandar karadjorge* and his family living in a state owned palace*, in bulgaria former tsar-king simeon II of bulgaria, living in mansion and estate pseudo owned by the state...
in greece, former king constantine living partly in greece, but with tatoi in disputed ownership, so for france, the borbons returning* with no real powers, only ceremonial roles and living in palaces or museums owned by the republic** that is the story of monarchy in the balkan regions after communism*...
An era when everything still in its place unlike nowdays where everything is upside down and chaos in the name of freedom and liberty
Yes. The certainty of slavery is far to be preferred to the chaos of freedom. Go find a master to grovel to.
William Ring Jr. Yes the freedom too work in a depressing office cubical only finding solace in sexual promiscuity and the consumption of pills and unhealthy food until my arteries clog and I die at 70 from the asbestos in the walls is very liberating.
Because hey at least now I have the “freedom” to be a useless degenerate and still be considered a functional human being by a broken society
@@EvilChudChimp if that's all that 'freedom" can mean for you, then your imagination is severely limited and your outlook entirely nihilistic. So, we should surrender all of our agency to a dictator in order to lead meaningful lives? Now, there is a degenerate, broken society for you. No thanks. You seem ready for meaningful slavery.
@@WilliamRing45 Submission to a monarch is not slavery. We submit ourselves regularly to those who we did not elect. In government there are bureaucrats. In the private sphere there are our parents. Are we "slaves" when we submit to lawful authority such as these? No. Then neither are the subjects of the crown.
Kings are merely a reflection of human nature. They occupy the archetype of the father, like God. This is why we call God our Father as well as the King of Kings. Even if you are not Christian, you cannot deny that monarchy is the most natural form of government, appearing in every culture throughout the world and with a much more stable and long lasting track record when compared with divisive republics.
And this is the sort of freedom which is chaos. There is the classical "freedom of excellence." That is a healthy freedom. But then there is the freedom of the enlightenment. Ask those living in revolutionary France how much freedom was worth. Ask the American slaves who probably wish they still lived under the English crown, since slaves were freed under that supposedly tyrannical country before they were freed in the purported land of the free. When monarchists say freedom is degenerate, it is in this classically liberal enlightenment sense where all is permissible. Monarchists strive for freedom as well, but it is freedom of the classical sort; of freedom of excellence; what the ancients would call "the good life."
@@williamcrawford7621 I couldn't have said any better! Thanks, sir, and God bless
Love the music
If you ever get to go to Reims the cathedral is beautiful.
This is like Catholic ASMR. 💀
Beautiful ❤️ ⚜️ St. Joan of Arc, ora pro nobis 🙏
This is the same actor who played Louis XVI about French Revolution. I love Joan of Arc
We don't name this ceremony "coronation" or "couronnement" in french but "sacre" as if the king was sacred as something of a semi-god. It goes back to the first king of the franks, Clovis who was baptized at the end of the fith century in Reims.
I'm an American yet I'm a full blown Monarchist. I think it's the best form of government there is
@Brexiteer well if you look at history there have been many more successful empires and kingdoms than republics. Also if you we had a good king/queen then he/she wouldn't have to worry about other politicians and they could just do what the people wanted. For example in the US people need relief covid relief but Republicans don't wanna give it to us and they have to "vote" to give it to us. If a king had power then he could just give to the people without going through so much bullshit.
@Brexiteer now i understand with having a hereditary monarchy that we are just rolling the dice and could easily get a bad ruler but I would recommend we did it like ancient Rome did. In ancient Rome the current Emperor would select his own successor and then adopt him as his child. He would pick a person he thought would be sane and good for the people.
@@arolemaprarath6615 That statement is full of contradictions. And its foolish, submit ourselves to a government that basically is ran by the highest bidder? The only way to the top is through lies, bribery, etc. Instability by power hunger fools that weren’t raised or born to rule. Tyranny of the many is a dangerous path as we see today.
Um no, just because your ancestor was a good military man and diplomat doesn’t mean you can do the job just as good.
Is the monarchy the God-given system of government?
Greetings from a Missionary Baptist monarchist!
This is a ultra masculine scene
joan of arc at 11.22 sandrine bonnaire is joan of arc; andre marcon is king charles 7
I love Monarchy 👑
When I am asked whether if I'm a Democrat or Republican I answer: "Nope! I'm a Monarchist!
LOL. When asked if I support same-sex marriage I reply, "Nope, I don't support marriage period".
jesusforever281 I wish there was a monarchist party
@@nibbanibba7202 It would be a nonsense. Monarchism is outside the republican game of the party.
But if you really want a monarchist party, nothing avoid you to create your own.
A more apt answer would be, "Nope! I'm a dumbass sheep." Monarchs poop just like you. However, they rely upon people like you to wipe their asses. Louis XIV actually had such a designe. "Such an honor, your majesty!"
@@rogerpropes7129 abolish marrige 🤣
The way it should be.
Und als Frankreich Frankreich war.
Imagen watching a modern day version of this, traditional restored church,the return of the king...wow
I do not know if anyone notice this, but the base note in this video is one note higher than ini the original version
only france's glory can rival those of England's. Pls bring back the french monarchy
Ejem Ejem Spanish Empire Ejem Ejem
Best option is a monarchist *America*
FACTS:
Ever wonder about that deafning silence when the Archbishop of Reims crowned the King? It was because coronation wasn't the highlight of the French Coronation Ritual Ceremony. The highlight was the 'Sacre' or anointing of King with Holy Chrysm as video shows. This makes the French coronation unique compared to other such as the English or Russian. Like the Kings of Jerusalem, Kings were anointed not crowned, crowning just one of many minor rituals in the Sacre. After the coronation, the Archbishop approaches and kisses the new King's right hand symbolizing the Catholic position on submission to the authorities as Christ thaught in Matthew 22:15-22, Apostle-Pope St. Peter on 1 Peter 2:13-20 and Apostle St. Paul on Romans 13:1-7 (Knwon today as the "Divine Rights of Kings") yet it is kissed on right hand unlike other monarchies such as in England (left), pagan states (kowtowing or kissing the foot) to remind the King he got his authority from God and THE CHURCH IS THE BODY AND BRIDE OF CHRIST; THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE CLERGY AND THE KING (CO-GOVERNMENT).
@@videojuegosfan5266 Spanish Monarchs traditionally, aren't crowned from the beginning.
@@juliuscaesar5397 American King will be anointed to Satan, not of God
Wiwat Król, wiwat wszystkie stany !
Great Symbolism - Solemnity.
"A Mystical Transfiguration of Cosmic Significance;
that influences events, after".
struck by the Solemn sense
6:22 NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION
Hermosa esta escena, me gusta mucho los cantos y la forma en que interpretan la coronación.
Vive le Roi!!! Vive la France!!!! Pour Dieu, la France et le Roi!!!!
lets wait for the coming of the great king of prophesy
vive la republique, vive la france
Vive l'empereur Napoléon
@@ericmoos8480 La France ou la République, il faut choisir...
Excelent view. My greeting from czech monarchists. We hope for czech king return.
Which dynasty do you have in mind, if I may ask?
@@markokaramarko1094 I mean Habsburg actualy.
@@mgr.slavomirmacha-magnome9065 Most Croatian monarchist would opt for Habsburgs too! In case we both revert to monarchy, do you think we could again have the same person as the king, or should we each elect a different member of their family?
We mean Habsburg.
@@mgr.slavomirmacha-magnome9065 LMFAO. Typical Czechs. Wanting Germans to rule you again because you can't take care of yourselves.
Greetings from an American Monarchist. I pray for the day my country will be even a fraction this Catholic.
Lol that’s never gonna happen
One from many sucessors of Western Roman Empire
yres
Tell me you have a catholic monarchy without telling me you have a catholic monarchy
Hermoso video!!!!
magnificent!
Were it not for Jeanne d'Arc, Charles VII wouldn't have been king, inspite of being Dauphin of France.
You got that right Gina; St. Joan pray for us.
Did he try to save her?
@@claudekonqui7294 Nope
@@claudekonqui7294 HE was the one who betry her to English
@@asheer9114 And also betrayed by his son, Louis XI
Gloria alla monarchia di Francia e alla santa cattolica apostolica romana chiesa
Like if miss the old monarchies.
From Fr
Now we have Charles III.
God save the King!
God bless the Great Empire! 🇬🇧🇧🇲🇦🇺🇳🇿🇫🇰
He was crowned in Reims cathedral. He was NOT crowned king in Notre Dame !
Before the Archbishop anoints the kings hands, he intones in Latin Zadok the priest and Nathan the prophet anointed Solomon king.
Along with the nasally French pronunciation of Latin 😂😂😂
I don’t think they had this accent at this time indeed ^^
@@turlututue1345 Of course they had this accent at this time. What accent do you believe they had?
@@fan2jnrc actual french isnt old. Prononciation Also.
@@turlututue1345 How do you know? Do you have audio recordings from 15th Century France?
@@terioze9 Because i have studied latin for 8 years and i know what was the pronouciation at this time
magnifique Vive la France Vive la monarchie française❤️⚜️⚪️⚪️
What is the song that You play in the end? I listen to this video of Yours almost weekly! Thank You for Your work.
In heaven there's hierarchy. In hell, democracy
Based
True
There is hierarchy in democracy as well
He's talking about a true hierarchy from top to bottom, from God to the King passing through the Church.
I wouldn’t say its a democracy, simply pure anarchy, hell however is nothing good regardless of what worldly form of government we ascribe to it.
Funny French pronunciation of Latin.
drottercat French Traditional catholic priests also pronounce their Latin like that.
About as funny as Americans and British pronounce Latin !!
FRAGIORGIO1 Actually I prefer the French accent. Are you catholic?
@@m-hayek1985 --- Yes, I am Catholic. but I prefer the Italian pronunciation.
FRAGIORGIO1 Nice... anyway I don’t know how not to make this sound awkward but as a Catholic you shouldn’t be saving all those vids of immodest women dancing in bikinis etc... I suggest looking into some good traditional sermons on purity. Our lady of Fatima says more fall into hell for sins of the flesh than any other.
Hope this doesn’t rub the wrong way. Pax
I am protestant but i support kingdom of france
don't forget the slaughtering of the French Protestants. Curse the Monarchy, long live the Republic!
@@paulengstrom432 which one, the first, second, third, fourth or fifth republic? The greatest time France ever had was under monarchs, the worst under Republicans.
@@MauricioRomanov Napoleon was both a monarch and a republican
@@paulengstrom432 The republics caused the deaths of innocents. Death to the republic, Long Live The King!
@@adrien437 Bonaparte was a usurper and an idolater.
Love from a Chinese monarchist (Singaporean)
Deficere X do you support the Ming dynasty or another house? I’m a Guatemalan monarchist btw.
Deficere X why do u want monarchy to return there anyways?
@@nibbanibba7202 The ruling of the current communist party is unsatisfactory to traditions and cultures that we Chinese cherish very dearly, the nationalist government on the other hand was weak, and bowing down to westernisation. So I'd see an ideal Chinese government with a Constitutional Monarchy, and how about you about Guatemala?
@@Gryfder There is at least 6 countries who need absolutly to become monarchy one more time:
Russia
France
Brazil
Ethiopia
Iran
China
Was this filmed in Reims Cathedral?
Jacob Snell no it sas filme into a church in Île de France near Paris .
La reconstruction est stupéfiante.
C’est fenomenal 😮
Oh! What we have lost.
Remember it was this system that gave rise to the French Revolution. Think about what we gained.
@@michaelfisher7170 Yikes! The French Revolution was a bloody atheist war that martyred thousands of Catholics. It was awful! The world has never been the same.
@11:28 @12:08 I can only surmise that the director instructed the crowd extras that France was a very unstable country in the early 15th century, but this is taking it a little too literally. This is what happens when untrained actors are instructed to "Act like a crowd", and each individual then proceeds to act like they're a crowd.
Thanks
Vive le Roi. Pour Dieu et France
vive dieu
Beautiful 🤩
Looks like they forgot to give the Archbishop a stole to wear. As an Episcopalian I notice these things.
FACTS:
Ever wonder about that deafning silence when the Archbishop of Reims crowned the King? It was because coronation wasn't the highlight of the French Coronation Ritual Ceremony. The highlight was the 'Sacre' or anointing of King with Holy Chrysm as video shows. This makes the French coronation unique compared to other such as the English or Russian. Like the Kings of Jerusalem, Kings were anointed not crowned, crowning just one of many minor rituals in the Sacre. After the coronation, the Archbishop approaches and kisses the new King's right hand symbolizing the Catholic position on submission to the authorities as Christ thaught in Matthew 22:15-22, Apostle-Pope St. Peter on 1 Peter 2:13-20 and Apostle St. Paul on Romans 13:1-7 (Knwon today as the "Divine Rights of Kings") yet it is kissed on right hand unlike other monarchies such as in England (left), pagan states (kowtowing or kissing the foot) to remind the King he got his authority from God and THE CHURCH IS THE BODY AND BRIDE OF CHRIST; THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE CLERGY AND THE KING (CO-GOVERNMENT).
@@anyaforger8409 Actually the English coronations ceremony that was modeled on the French one also features the anointing as the central act.
@@galleryguide9913 Yes just as recently, Charles' coronation but the british ritual do it privately it appears the brits are trying to not being too French in their ritual despite being heavily influenced hy the French.
The English coronation ceremony, still used for the UK, is based on the coronation of Charlemagne, as emperor of the Franks in Rome in 800 and dates from 973, 14 years before the Kingdom of France was declared under Hugh Capet. Before that date those lands were the western part of the partitioned Frankish Empire (West Francia).
I think it is truer to say the two ceremonies had common roots in Frankish (not French) traditions, though the original ceremony must have been devised in Rome as it is reported that Charlemagne himself did not have prior knowledge of what was going to happen.
@@galleryguide9913 The English (originating in 973 AD) and French ceremonies were modelled on Frankish coronations taking place before the western part of the Empire broke off and called itself the Kingdom of France in 987. They were not modelled on each other. The ultimate model was the coronation of Charlemagne conducted by the Pope in Rome in 800 AD.
Was this filmed at Reims Cathedral? Or is it a mockup stage set? Perhaps this has already been answered?
No, it was filmed in a cathedral in Paris
Such a shame that France threw these traditions away
Fun fact: the British coronations, took like 100% of all their traditions--like the anointing of the new monarch with holy oil, the whole very fancy procession before and after the proper coronation, etc.--from French coronations. The English saw what the French were doing and wanted to recreate most of it, which I suppose makes sense since William the Conqueror was French. All other European monarchs had far less fancy coronation ceremonies, with the other extreme being Spain and Portugal. In those nations there was even a ceremony. The previous king would die and the new king would immediately assume power. Spain and Portugal did even have crown jewels as a result since the coronation ever happened. But the Russians had the French beat. The Russians recreated Byzantine coronations, which were also long and elaborate, adding more French coronation stuff after Peter the Great turned the Russian court into a francophile paradise...
The English coronation rites predate the French ones and having nothing to do with William of Normandy who would never have described himself as "French" even though he owed technical allegiance to the French king! The present British coronation rite (formerly English), well established before tge Norman conquest, was produced by St Dunstan in 973, 14 years before France officially existed but there is an even earlier one. Both are inspired by the coronation of the Frankish emperors, notably Charlemagne. The anointing with oil existed from the very start. It did not come from the French coronation rite.
British coronation goes back to Anglo-Saxon times.
De la part d'un Français, merci.
Vive le roi Louis, vingtième du nom, par la Grâce de Dieu roi de France.
I'm so glad that britain still performs ceremonies that are so similar to this (i am a history buff and i love the middle ages) sadly the woke people forced king charles' to be toned down. It is a sacred moment that represents humility in the eyes of god. It should be left as is. Long live the King!
Vive le Royaume de France, vive le Roy !
Merci
@@RayB1656 ?
@@baudoindepreroyal1938 ??
@@RayB1656 L’utilité de ton commentaire ?
@@baudoindepreroyal1938 Pourtant , question facile ? '' Vive le Roy ! Vive le Royaume de France'' ! ----- C'est au présent...!! Il y a certainement des descendants , des héritiers, aujourd'hui des derniers Rois de France ? Ce n'est pas une question-piège !!
The (I assume bishop, the person that annointed the king) bishop doesn't wear a stole under the cope?
Yes, and a girdle rope.
He should be wearing one straight down (like most priests today) as opposed to one side crossed over the other (like priests are supposed to). And he isn't wearing a pectoral cross.
Also now that I look at it again, I think he might be wearing a cassock-alb instead of a real alb (like the king wore I'm the beginning).
I noticed today from a historical document about the crowning of Charles VI that the bishops wore no stoles, as in this movie. I wonder if there were copes without hanging "hoods".behind.
@@FRAGIORGIO1 huh, that's peculiar. Treating the alb like a surplice then?
Admittedly I don't know much about the history of copes. But I know that syriac and ethiopian copes have a sort of "hood" thing as well, and that leads me to believe it was probably an early development.
@@jesusacuna309 ----zYes, I was surprised by the illustration in a 15th century picture of bishops with King Charles VI of France and no stoles.