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I will still get True lies in my collection. Its my favorite James Cameron film.
DVD to 4k. Even if it’s not perfect, it’s still a major upgrade.
Yeah, this isn't top of my list to own on physical media, but since I don't even have the DVD...
Get the Spain import. A lot better.
Yeah. I don't tend to make a habit of BD-to-4K upgrades - the difference is often simply not worth the expense most of the time - but DVD-to-4K is often a no-brainer. The problem is that I've already upgraded the vast majority of films that have any importance to me to BD. True Lies and The Abyss are a bit unique in that they've never had BD releases before now.
Finally it’s out in 4K blu ray I’m buying it
Finally its here. After all these years. It was a sin that we never got True Lies on high def Bluray. But now I don't have to put off watching it again any longer. Thank you for another honest review, James 🙏
You should buy the Spain blu-ray import. WAY better than this atrocity.
The 4K disc comparison shots here look so much better than the digital release. Really hope Aliens can match the Alien 4K release as that is the one I am most looking forward to.
Unfortunately it's nowhere near 😢
@@papa_sloth_gaming547You clearly haven’t watched James’ Aliens 4K review, apparently it’s a reference quality 😁
@robbies273secondhat-trick7 I have as it was only released today. I made that statement yesterday as I watched another reviewer who I respected showcase it. However, it was obviously a false, fake review as James clearly shows that it is, in fact, a great release. 👍
@@robbies273secondhat-trick7 it's using AI Digital Noise Reduction and it looks absolutely grotesque. If you think it looks reference quality then you know nothing about the quality of film.
@@papa_sloth_gaming547 I think we can all be happy, and maybe breathe a huge sigh of relief, that all 3 Cameron movies have been 4K’d well! I’m especially pleased about Aliens though 😄
It doesn’t sound like it’s the unwatchable disaster I’ve been hearing about since December. There was also these odd images that surfaced and they are clearly drummed up fakes that people peddled to back up their biased views. I’m not sure I’ll buy True Lies, only because it’s not a top favorite of mine. But, certainly happy to hear it’s a major step up from what we’ve had. Thanks for the review… 👍🏻
Now for Aliens! 🤞🏻
Those reviews were for the digital version not the disc version
And most were making claims off of the digital version that the sky was falling.
@@txag007 exactly, they were taking the digital and commenting on how badly that would also translate to physical. They were essentially commenting on something before they ever had a chance to see it. It’s par for the course though w/ Cameron haters. 🤷🏻♂️🙂
@@By_His_StrypesWell the digital 4k looked very bad
It's still AI enhanced. Looks fake and waxy.
Even at 8.8 review, I will still buy this movie. Perhaps the studio didn't want to invest that much money in the true lies restoration because it isn't as popular as the other Cameron movies.
It's a Cameron favorite for me.
That's a good score by any means. Also if some problems are inherently from the original source, to fix them can be very difficult sometimes. Own the film I'm all the physical releases including VHS, LASERDISC, DVD and the Spain very and to tell you truth they compare, and the sound is similar on all of them. Of course VHS is Stereo Surround. The volume on the DTS LASERDISC is louder.
I do Hope “The Rock” gets a 4K release. Another underrated action movie of the 90’s
8.8 is still an excellent score. You make it sound like it's a failure score, or you only buy 9s. 😂
I'm still going to buy this. I've waited too long to own better copies of True Lies and The Abyss
Same 👍
Tia Carrere makes this a 10, must buy for me 😊
Right!
She didn't dance like Jamie Lee Curtis though.
@@Movie_Collector_Maniacit doesn't matter
I already pre-order all 3 movies from you. Thank you for the hard work you put in to provide us with this review.
Much appreciated!
Definitely still buying this in uk
Very detailed and nice review. Thanks!
It might only score an 8.8 …. But I remain confident this will be a big upgrade on my old Laserdisc version (complete with brief intermission to change side … those were the days!). Same with Abyss and my old copies of Aliens.
In fact, I think this will mean I will (pretty much) end up with copy of every single format Aliens was ever released in.
I just wish we might see a shiny new release of T2 to go with this set of movies.
Sadly, I’m expecting to have to import Abyss thanks to some petty issues with some scenes potentially offending individuals of a delicate disposition … these same scenes being perfectly acceptable back in the day. That’s progress 🤐
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It’s cr@p.
The filmic Blu-ray is much better and it’s the same scan (without filters and AI).
Yep. Unfortunately it's waxy like T2. The clothes and backgrounds have great detail but the faces are very waxy. I'm still going to buy it though.
Thanks for the review. I’m happy to hear that overall it came out well. Arnold is my all time favorite and this is one of my favorite movies of his I was excited for it being I don’t want to watch the dvd anymore and want a high def release. Just so I can have a bit of a reference of your scores, what would you have ranked the digital version of this and the 4k release of T2?
Thanks for the great review. I have preordered this movie and Abyss movie based on these reviews from Amazon Canada. Unfortunately, there is no link provided to Amazon Canada to help this channel..
The review I have been waiting for 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
the pictures at the top which one is the 4k disc and what is the one on the right taken from
Thanks for the review will take the 8.8 will definitely pick it up one of my favs
Great video. I bought 2 copies of each James Cameron's new releases.
1 each to watch and 1 each to keep factory sealed! LOL
Exactly
Happy to be proven wrong🙂
Thanks for all the work you do🙂
My pleasure!
Damn, you are on it. Definitely my favorite 4k reviewer. Keep up the good work.
Great review James! I have mine preordered.
The D-Theater version video holds up well even today!
At the 13:20 mark the comparison of the two images appears that his head is more narrow on the streaming version vs the 4k disc. Sort of like the difference between the early Event Horizon Blu-ray and the 4k disc or is it just a optical illusion?
I already bought it. Glad to hear it is a good disc
Thanks James!!! Two down one to go. Like I said previously, I pre ordered al three of them. I always look at the final product!
Gosh this is a relief. Thanks James!
Thank you very much for this. I appreciate you always not viewing the negatives as "the sky is falling". As for me, I haven't seen these since they were on VHS.
Thnx James for these reviews! U da man!
Glad you like them!
Thanks James! On a side note- Question what is the type of shelving that you use for your collection?
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I know why you cant do it, but as someone whose 'lucky' enough to have a "grey area" bluray release of this, I would love to see a companion between the quality, especially with all of the digital tampering.
Great video as always, thanks again for taking the time to put together such a comprehensive review
A long time favorite, I'll be making a purchase. Thank you for the video. On a side note, over the holidays we visited Warner Bros. studious in CA. Really fun.
I wonder if the waves and shimmering are to do with Dolby Vision. Similar to issues with Face/Off from kino Lorber.
James speaks True with no Lies! Thanks for your fair assessment James, looking forward to getting my copy of this one. 😎👍
Getting all 3
The horse top the building scene always has me in stitches.... OK back up lol
Thanks for another in-depth review James. I would love to see an interview with Mr Cameron about the 4K restoration process that he is involved in, particularly questions to him about why some of his movies turn out better than others when he is directly involved? And also, does he think there can be improvements made, was he happy/unhappy with the way certain restorations turned out etc...
If it's good enough for James Cameron, what can anybody else say? He's the Filmmaker! As articulate as James Cameron is about his movies, he would not have approved their blu-ray/4K releases if he didn't like them. If they're good enough for Cameron, they are good for me, especially after waiting 15 + years for them.
I want this one. I bought the laserdisc when it was brand new. Way back when they called Dolby Digital AC-3.
Yes I am
Got this , a fav. Way better than my old dvd. Watch on 120” screen with JVC 4 k projector with Panasonic 820 player.
already bought it
Thanks for crunching these reviews out for these loooong anticipated films, as expected it is not the disaster the vocal minority would have you believe. It is finally available on 4k/Blu-ray, Can we just celebrate that’s it’s finally available and in very good quality?
Tia Carrera got me a woody watching that movie. 😊
Thank you boss.
Still buying this 100%
Another AMAZING video, showing why you are truly the G.O.A.T of all reviewers! I truly appreciate all the depth & details you provide along with your consistant honesty, helps me decide what to buy! Cuz of this I just used yur link to order True lies 4K & looking forward to checking it out!
Yur the best I appreciate you a bunch & excited for your next ALIENS 4K review!
I appreciate that!
Are you comparing this to the previous digital version or the new 4k digital version?
Watch the video and find out.
What does it look like on blu ray.
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New to your channel, great work! Hoping more and more people start re-investing in physical media.
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Was it because of the film they used for the 4K that made it look that way? Sometimes they can do the best with what they have. Good review
Pre Ordered!!!
Yes I will buy true lies aliens & the abyss on 4k. Bc these 3 films are are the most wanted and requested movie that now finally getting a bluray & 4k release
The digital is horrible on Apple TV, I was appalled. The images shown here are indicating a disc upgrade and I may just be tempted.
1080 Disney plus version a year ago had a really nice grain structure. Looked very natural with depth and detail. They’ve actually gone backwards with this release and should have released that 1080 version on disc.
You know what I video(s) would be really fun, James? If you would do quick reviews on all the current Arnold Schwarzenegger 4k UHD Blu Rays available, in print right now. You could even make it a series going in chronological order of Arnold's filmography. I would be curious about which current Schwarzenegger 4k Blu Rays are the worst transfers, and which are the best. I would love to hear your disc review on Predator, Total Recall, Commando, and others. I hope other Arnold Schwarzenegger films that aren't yet available on 4K, like Terminator, get released soon too. I would even be open to buying Pumping Iron and Hercules in New York on 4k Blu Ray...lol. I'm a fan of his films. Thanks for the honest, and thorough reviews on all these new disc releases, James. I appreciate your videos. You are my first source of upcoming new 4K Blu Ray films. I look forward to your review of Aliens. All of these James Cameron releases are on my shopping list.
Got my True Lies, The Abyss and Aliens all pre ordered from Amazon in the us shipping to uk, true lies releases in April here, aliens been delayed till December and the abyss isnt being released in the uk. I'm hoping they arrive shortly after the 12th.
Could the inconsistencies be from a problem with the original negative?
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I love this movie. Thank you for your review 👍😎😎
No problem 👍
it sold out....its the morning of the release and it says out of stock in Amazon and Walmart. gotta wait until its restocked, no way to pay on ebay for up charge of 50% at least
A technical question. Why there are not using HDR10+ instead of regular HDR on the releases?
Because hdr10+ is only on Samsung tvs
Lg and Sony don't have it Sony and lg are pro dolby vision
HDR10 and Dolby Vision are the dominant and preferred HDR formats from the majority of studios. HDR10+ is basically an imitation of Dolby Vision created exclusively by Samsung, to prevent from paying Dolby Laboratories the licensing fee to implement Dolby Vision on their TVs.
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Because Samsung going their own way is not our problem. Ask instead why your Samsung TV decided not to include Dolby Vision.
Aliens tomorrow
Unfortunately it's waxy like T2. I'll still buy it anyway.
The original camera negative was in such terrible condition that it is incredible that they were even able to save the film. Blame the studio for not protecting its assets, not Jim.
The shot of Jamie Lee Curtis's face and the Tom Arnold one clearly look DNR smoothened. It's extremely unnatural and there's barely any natural skin detail left. AT the same time, some of the other shots of Arnold look much more realistic in terms of facial detail. So, yes, it's a mixed bag, but the AI DNR method has me really worried about the fate of home releases of other movies in the future. More studios might take a cue from these releases and just DNR the heck out of their older masters to create a false "4K" image and call it a day.
Well looks way better than the digital disaster
Definitely agree on this: " More studios might take a cue from these releases and just DNR the heck out of their older masters to create a false "4K" image and call it a day." Personally do prefer natural grain way over too-smoothed wax-cabinet look done by post-editing.
Also, there is the normal Blu-Ray release that comes with the 4K.
Seems like this could have used a little more time in the oven but will still get it!
Im definitely buying... might wait for the price to drop tho.
He bought another one to keep factory sealed.
I have heard some concerns about the possibility of AI/AI upscaling being used in these 3 new Cameron 4Ks (Abyss, True Lies, Aliens) and that that might not look the best or cause some issues. What are your thoughts about that?
It's not necessarily "upscaling" that you've been hearing about. The AI implementation that has everyone upset over is about DNR. In his review, when he talks about digital artifacts, "shimmering," etc- DNR is what he's referring to, and even though he gave this a higher score- based on the screen grabs he showed, the one that have been leaked all over forums, and based on his own descriptions, it sounds like this looks like an absolute s***show visually.
There isn’t DNR here this is something entirely different. You would lose detail w/ DNR that’s not the case here.
Part of it most certainly is DNR, but you're right and that's not the whole picture. I forgot to mention that it's also Sharpening. Those two AI implementations are why this movie looks like s***.
I wanted to hear his thoughts on that and find out if it was true. Oh well🤷🏻♂️ Also… It’s interesting to me that some people think blu ray looks over sharpened. Well, isn’t that what we are doing here?
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True Lies actually did get a Blu-ray release but only in Spain. In case you didn’t know. Also, for Aliens, something outdated is on the back of the slipcover and case
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Own that one too, and it doesn't look bad at all, may be a little soft. Another title I had to buy from Spain is the film On Deadly Ground, it hasn't been released too. Thanks for sharing!
The So called Spanish release is basically the D-Theatre Rip and a good one at that.
When you say "grey area", do you mean "black market"?
Bootleg
It was a release from Spain I believe but was not an official release. I guess they have different laws there or something.
Wow I didn't know the digital code version is different then the disk. Might just start selling my digital codes 😂
I'll probably buy it when it gets cheap enough. Same for Aliens and Abyss.
Still a lot better than the DVD. I streamed this movie last year and the quality sucked. 480p DVD is hard to go back too.
Cameron is madness!!!
Such a fun movie strange the transfer isn’t perfect!
That cover art is bonkers ..the arm of arnies tossing the grenade just doesn't seem like it belongs there
DVD??? I still have it on VHS that I got when Blockbusters went out of business.
How could you have purchased the VHS from Blockbuster when they went out of business in 2014? By that point, they stopped renting out VHS as that format ended production years before. Maybe you meant you obtained a VHS copy from Blockbuster well before they went out of business 🤔
@ForEternia Do I remember the exact date I purchased the movie. No. I just remember having picked up some movies at the going out of business sale. Maybe I rented it as a VHS but bought a DVD. Who knows. I can barely remember what I had for breakfast sometimes.
Yes, I still have a VHS player and tapes. I can't always find some of my favorites in disc form. The price I pay for some of my odd movie choices.
Just put the blu ray into a 4k player it will up scale perfectly saving you a load of money
Heads up, there seems to be a manufacturing issue that will delay the release of these James Cameron movies by a week or week and a half for a lot of people. 😔
Does this have the weird AI stuff that was shown on twitter months ago?
Yes
What about the DNR? There were more than a few scenes in the digital version that were so smoothed-over they looked like cheap CGI, like a Playstation game graphics, usually most noticeable with Schwarzenegger's & JLC'a hair...
Well looking at the comparison shots, the digital version DOES looked DNRd to all hell, but the disc images do not. they look night and day better. He said it wasn't a T2 like release
@mattr8750 good to know, thank you 😃
I think Arnold looks very similar to how he looked in Terminator Salvation! LOL!
THX very much for this super interesting review! I wonder... since the masters of those 3 Cameron movies was made back in 2023 by Disney if Sony will re-release those films later with a better restoration and packaging? With a steelbook case, it would be nice!
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Mate I respect your reviews immensely so don't take this as skepticism, but im just genuinely shocked at those digital stream screenshots. They are terrible! It can't really have been that bad can it?? They look like some early HD rips I 'acquired' nearly 20 years ago that were 4gb hd movies compressed with dvd era codecs... Like back in the bad old days where you had to DNR the every loving **** out of something to get it to compress on to a CD...
I know you’re an optimistic reviewer most of the time. Is this why you’re acting like an 8.8 is the lowest review you’ve given out in years? 😂
Where is collateral damage?
Just watched the movie on 4k and it looks great. Don't listen to any of those youtuber reviews.
I'm so sad they botched this one, as it is one of my all time favourite action films. I used to demo the laserdisc so many times in my then JBL HT/Stewart/Sim2 home theater that i know all the lines of the film by heart..
I have the spanish bluray, which i only found out after the fact that it is apparently a bootleg, seems very well done though, but i will keep that one as it is probably more "filmic" than what i hear and read about the new 4K version.
Sadly i don't think we will ever see another properly done version of this from a boutique label.
I will be buying The Abyss though, and probably Aliens when it goes on sale.
Maybe we’ll get another one from Sony somewhere down the line.
$44? Imma wait a while.
It’s the resell market. As expected the retailers didn’t properly gage the demand and sold out.
Rub-a-dub-dub...thanks for the scrub!
This was one of my most played Laserdiscs, the director approved Pan and Scan version !!!!! So what we have here now is a Director approved AI scrubbed version with some of his software killing the picture quality ?
If the Spanish release is considered a boot, it’s a high quality one. The 4k seems to get it right in some areas, but in others it’s full on DNR waxworks. All of Cameron’s old work looks like Avatar to him now. Mentiras Arriesgadas siempre! I’d rather have a copy where that film looks like film. They Michael Bay’ed the color on the 4k which makes sense since that film was a Bay spoof to begin with, but I’ll take the one that looks closer to my experience in the theater
It isn't
The bootleg is from a crappy TV recording the static isn't film grain static because they didn't use a 2k print
The only way to get a real hd quailty verison is the latest release
It needs to be 2k print for true accurate film grain or 4k camera negative TV recordings arnt accurate
Why is this not amazing release why is it not reference what did Cameron do or what did the people restoring it not do
Not worth $45
It’s 25$ cad at my Walmart 😂
Its 25 dumby
This is one I wasnt planning on buying immediately but will keep and eye out for a good Black Friday sale.
I thought this transfer was pretty lousy, just looked way too overly processed.
The use of DNR and AI upscaling look terrible here with True Lies. I hear it's similar with Aliens.