The Spain import doesn't look like a bootleg. It is really good and if you have a problem with the new 4K, grab it. I don't think you will be disappointed with the image or sound.
That's correct! I own that version and it looks very good indeed.The sound is good also. Own True Lies in every format released, from VHS, Laserdisc, DVD, Spain BLU RAY version and now it's 4k release.
It looks average, like many HD transfers of the early 2000s. It has been DNR'd for grain management. There are original source rips online which look sharper
The best retail version we got of True Lies was a D-VHS of it. D-VHS was 1080p and HD but on a vhs form. The format flopped and we landed where we was till the 4k dropped.
You know what's crazy, I literally just found out about this D-VHS format about a week ago. I never even heard of it before. I knew of Beta, VHS, Laserdisc, mini disc lol, but never D-VHS. Is it the same size a regular VHS or bigger?
@@thelastmoviestanding Same size just more advanced higher-quality and more expensive tapes. The largest capacity tape made would hold the equivalate of 50gig and small as 25gig of video bitrate data or 8hrs run time.
I think people are accepting this 4k because they only had the dvd before. I had the Spanish Bluray so it's not that special to me and the 4k very waxy look
Dude, TOTALLY agree about the damn sticker that’s on all 3 new James Cameron 4 4K releases! HATE THEM. Peeled them off VERY carefully but almost ruined all 3 slipcovers.
yea the stickers are AWFUL! lol DANG you almost ruined them? lol I was SUPER SUPER careful with the True Lies sticker & luckily had no issues but it took like 15mins lol. I'm still waiting for my Aliens 4K to come in.
@@thelastmoviestanding I normally order direct via Amazon but, at the time I ordered ( 3 or so months ago I believe) Target actually had the better deal. Then heard Amazon had delay issues with all 3 Cameron films, so I lucked in. Got all 3 at once. But damn man, normally those stickers come right off the slipcover. Not these 3. lol. Anyways, my 3 movies are good and sticker free. Man, whenever get your copy of Aliens, heads up, it looks AMAZING. Enjoy!
Had 'The Abyss' on VHS, and then letterbox VHS and then DVD...and then it was just a phys. media desert...from about 1997 until today - when the 4kHD arrived...so I'm stoked to watch this tomorrow ! 'True Lies' is one of the funniest Bond films ever made. Bill Paxton is the best sleazy car salesman... and Jamie Lee Curtis... just amazing.
Some of the scenes were quite jarring because they looked like wax figures to me, but that's only in certain parts. True Lies in 4K as a whole looks absolutely amazing, and I love this movie. I'm very happy to have it in my collection.
I also had True Lies on VHS, DVD & now the 4K. I also think the 4K looks fine & is a great upgrade. You wanna see a bad 4K, look at the 4K of T2. Now that was badly done. As for Star Wars, I grew up with the SE Star Wars films, those are the only ones I’ve ever known so they’ve always been fine to me.
I so appreciate your view on this film...it is also one of my fav 90's film that I watched over and over on VHS as a kid. I am so thankful for a 4k and Blu Ray upgrade. Because I hated the DVD version 📀 that was not in anamorphic widescreen that the screen was so damn small to watch. So im happy for this new upgrade 😊😊
Its my personal preference but I cant stand the clean waxy look of this. The one thing I love most about actual FILM is that its shot on FILM and has that beautiful dream like quality to it along with the film grain. I enjoy a pristine clean look to movies too like John Wick but why take away the most defining and beautiful aspects of the look of a film.
I took a similar position- maybe I’m just not a purist and more a “modernist.” I just simply love physical media and want it looking its best on 4k. On my set up I really did think this looked great. I guess I’m just an “against the grain” kinda guy lol 😂
I agree, I kinda of like the "modernism" of it. I don't hate grain, but sometimes 4K can really really show you all the grain lol There was a James Cameron interview I wish I had added in the video from a 2012 documentary called Side By Side (Digital Vs Film doc), where he said "I'm done with film & never going back". People are going to complain even more when the Terminator 4K (coming out this year supposedly) looks the exact same lol "Modern"
If you're against grain, then you shouldn't be watching older films. Just watch modern movies where everything looks like a shampoo commercial and people look like wax figures. Stop justifying people's lack of access to see something more accurate to the theatrical release.
@@CuriousEnthusiast956 I’m not against all film grain. I know it depends highly on the film stock used for those original films and even types of lenses. Example being taking a 16mm film and putting onto 4k. It’s going to enhance the grain structure even more since it’s on 16mm and we’ll see even more grain. When done right, I think a 4k scan of an older film can look amazing. But sometimes some DNR may not be a horrible thing. But it needs to be done right. From my understanding it depends on quite a bit of different factors. In some cases, if all that film grain is now “over-exposed” would that not show even more grain than what the director would have originally intended? Then maybe it could work in the reverse, like with Cameron who obviously didn’t want as much grain because he wanted a more “futuristic” look in his films but at the time couldn’t get that look because filming digitally didn’t exist back then. Now - he’s able to create the film as he originally intended.
Dude, I gotta admit... I just laugh when people tell me they're gonna stick with their old DVDs. Lmao!😆 Sure there are a few shots that definitely look a little "smooth." But the 4K is easily the best this film has ever looked and likely will ever look. I'm just happy we finally have it on 4K (and blu ray). I had so much fun revisiting it. Great video! Just discovered your channel and subbed. Keep up the great work!
Thanks man! I'm huge fan of your channel. Massive Tony Scott fan right here as well lol I just bought the Enemy Of The State extended cut DVD a few months back based off 1 of your videos. Im about to get the Crimson Tide extended dvd too.
@thelastmoviestanding Oh right on man -- thanks so much... so we've probably chatted in comments before and I'm just having a brain fart or something - LMAO! (the username does look familiar lol!)... If so, sorry about that man. Glad I found your channel. Very cool about the DVDs. It's cases like this where sometimes I almost wish I didn't have such an issue with standard definition lol. Really hoping they do right by us Tony Scott fans and put the extended versions of those bad boys out on 4K someday.
@@TheOriginalFuzz Oh don't sweat it man, I watch mostly on my personal YT channel where I have YT Premium. I just started this channel in January. Yea it seems Paramount's the only studio that put out his movies on 4K. I had to import Last Boy Scout on Blu-ray because the only US version is a double feature with Last Man Standing & they are both on the same disc. plus I hate double feature sets with 2 totally different movies, messes up my organization hahaha
Every movie and television show I own is on DVD. I've never owned a Blu-ray or 4K release, and honestly, I don't really care to upgrade my collection. There is nothing wrong with DVDs, and companies still make them and release new content onto them, so I will continue to collect them. Go ahead and laugh. I don't care.
The old DVD weren't great, but at least they didn't use AI to make everyone look like wax figures, coming from a director who first became famous with a movie about the dangers of AI. Keep on being a good little consumer!
I picked up True Lies , The Abbys , Aliens and Titanic all in 4K because I love all these films and want to watch them with the highest quality and little things like some DNR didn’t effect my viewing experience. Plus the movies were only sold for 25 bucks a peace not even full price so I think there’s just groups of people that will never be happy with anything.
I’m late to the party! This is one movie I’ve never watched so I’m sure I’d be quite impressed with the 4K release. I will say this, Jeff is about the only one of those guys out of that bunch that I enjoy. Maybe I’ll grab this when it goes back in stock at some point!
I support this message, well done. Yes, there are other films that might have the texture that certain folks/reviewers want. It seems like the source for True Lies didn't allow that hope to be fulfilled. A quick Google search shows they have been working on these remasters for years, trying to figure out the best sources and best sauce to serve it with. In the end, I agree and we really should be grateful we got another version of this. Maybe one day in the not too distant future a better source will be found and another remaster will take place, or more likely AI will have better tools and they will take another pass at this, until then enjoy what you can.
Hi....new subscriber! You make some good points. Thanks for making this video. I finally got a copy. Bought all three. Loved how The Abyss looks! Looking forward to watching the other two! I also hear that a lot of detail is still visible on screen so that's a great thing!
Thank man!! I haven't got my Aliens yet. Abyss I didn't order, I was going to wait before I knew they would sell out so fast lol I'll get it on the next batch. If True Lies is "the worst" of the 3 lol which is not bad at all, I can't wait to see Aliens!
You can still see plenty of detail in the True Lies transfer right? I fast forwarded to get a glimpse and saw nothing but a clear and detailed picture...faces, clothing and many other textures are still quite visible to my eyes.
I tried to get Star Trek 2 from the studio without the score and they literally have zero cuts that are not married from video to audio. Just wanted the dialog and video, talked to the guy in control, got the bad news… Sometimes stuff is gonna be as good as it gets mix and video wise. If we’re getting better video at “any point” we should be grateful. Vi
I get where you're coming from, but I'm not going to be "grateful" to a multi-billion dollar company for selling me a product. I realize there are some angry people out there taking it way too far, but of the videos you quoted that I've watched, they all seemed pretty reasonable to me. Yeah, they pointed out the things they didn't like or they thought could have been done better, but they weren't trashing James Cameron or even saying you shouldn't buy it. They're reviewing a product, talking about the pros and cons is kind of the point. And if the quality of it wasn't important, everyone would still just be watching the DVD and wouldn't even care at all that it was being re-released in 4K. And you're right, a lot of people don't care, and won't even be getting the 4K, but many of those who have invested in the required equipment and are spending money on the most expensive version of a product that they may actually already own in another format, are only spending all that money because having a great looking picture is something they value. On top of this, these particular releases are using new technology that hasn't really been used before, and a lot of people understandably want to know what the results are before buying it sight unseen. From watching these reviews, I came away thinking that it sounds like a very promising technology, and there are only minor complaints about one of the three transfers that used it. What's so terrible about that? I simply don't understand what the issue is with people pointing out that they saw some issues that either bothered them, or that they think might bother some people who are coming to their channel specifically to see reviews for these products.
The UA-cam discussion has been fine. It’s the forums that are a complete dumpster fire with people throwing around hyperbolic terms like “unwatchable” about these releases.
I enjoyed True Lies in the theater. I enjoyed my VHS copy in the late 90s. I enjoy my DVD every cpl of years when i watch it. Its just a good movie. Itll be good on any format.
New viewer here. Before my copy of True Lies arrived, i watched several reviews and was worried about my purchases along with The Abyss and Aliens. True Lies still looked damn good. I have around 8K titles in my collection, and i have seen worse much worse. We should all be respectful of Cameron and his talent and faults. It's his vision, after all. At least he took the time to do this or supervise the process.
So we should all be grateful peasants and bend our knees to a man who first became famous with a film about the dangers of AI, proceeds to use AI to destroy the detail of his own films, make everyone look like wax figures, do a George Lucas on the transfer but let's buy like a bunch of good old consumers. What a good message to send for those who care about preserving something close to the original experience on a digital format.
Hollywood must make way too much money... shame they not investing enough in looking after tge greatest classic films of all time. Imagine all those films 🎥 sitting their degradation beyond repair.
I finally just watched True Lies tonight and had a great time. It honestly wasn’t that noticeable, only in a few parts and certainly not enough to affect my enjoyment. I thought it looked fantastic. You bring up a great point about these negative reviews driving people away. Thats really the last thing we need in this hobby. If you are a fan of this film there should be ZERO hesitation in picking up this release.
Totally agree man! the nit picking is too much. I only expect that from people who are just now seeing the film for the 1st time. not people claiming they've loved it since it came out, fi you really loved it then you have seen it so many times that you watch it for the film not the technology used to present it.
Good points. But I still think people as a whole should voice their opinions. If no one says anything, then filmmakers/studios will continue to half-ass future releases thinking it is ok. But also it is important to use constructive criticism and talk about the good points. I did love the 4K of this and did not think it was as bad as everyone else says and I would recommend it to anyone.
I 100% agree! At the time I made this video there were ONLY negative videos about it, the positives hadn't made their way to UA-cam yet, probably because of the delayed shipping & shortages.
If you're rocking a new oled you won't care what some nit picking film grain critic has say, you're gonna buy it regardless. Like you said we should be thankful given physical media's future is uncertain.
@@thelastmoviestandingGotta say that your review is spot on! The fact that people are literally trying to compare this release with the god awful original Predator release on Blu-ray is down right laughable at best. That release was indeed DNR'd completely to death. This was where the DNR was done right. Also what happened to all of these film geeks talking about respecting the director's intent? Now more than ever it's seems to me people want these directors to do what they want 100% vs the director's actual input into what they actually intended!
After the Terminator 2 debacle with WAXING from DNR to find out it was a 3D version error. ??? I can understand a mistake but that should have been caught during the process and nobody noticed and still hasn't been re-done. Then waiting to long to do the 4k allows the Negative to degrade more.Lucky in 1997 George Lucas noticed how badly the star wars Negative had become and we could have lost it if it hadn't been restored the Trilogy. I have been watching the dvd to Blu-ray to 4k and you will notice that many of a certain age are seeing the Digital Manipulation instantly because they have seen the analog version most of their lives and to suddenly see it with extreme DNR on TVs that show everything .I can understand the shock .I also understand what they needed to do to fix the Negative issues that time creates.I already have the Aliens 4k and it required adjustments in my 4k player to get the proper visual settings and it worked not perfect but very Watchable. Good Video 😎
Aliens , the abyss and true lies on 4k dolby vision and atmos . I am great full to have these . And i enjoy these movies for how james Cameron made theme . And not for how every second of the movie looks .
I disagree. The Spanish Blu Ray is the best version. The processing on the 4K is just too distracting and takes you out the movie. Especially the artificial looking googly eyes the AI puts on people.
You don't have to downplay your words by saying maybe you're biased, or maybe you're this or that. You're speaking nothing but facts! This movie never had a blu ray release and took 25 years to upgrade from the dvd release, and everyone was waiting for ages for this movie to come out in at least a blu ray release. But instead, we got something better and it got released in 4K UHD! So basically, it went from having a standard dvd release to upgrading all the way to 4K UHD in 25 years, and people are still complaining for some minor DNR that was made. It's like they want to wait another 25 years to get the transfer they wish they had, and that would make it 50 years after the dvd release!! There is nothing biased or fan-boyish by being grateful for something we never had and possibly thought of never getting. But we did, and it's faaar better than its previous releases, and that's the point that matters. If it's an upgrade, if it's watchable, if it's better than what was available before, then there's nothing to complain about. Yes, technical "flaws" SHOULD be pointed out when reviewing all these releases, but they shouldn't be a burden for reviewers making these releases discouraging for fans of the movie to buy the movie, just because they have a very opinionated review on them. If it's that bad, everyone will notice it. And it's not like these studios that produce these transfers are going to release them every once in a while, just because some reviewers on youtube are nitpicking the shit out of them. Until the point where it's frustrating for fans who want to upgrade, but then have second thoughts. I just got the 4K UHD and it's fine and watchable and rewatchable! It doesn't have to be the best all the time. So buy with confidence.
I honestly wouldn't know. I only paid $22 on Amazon for it lol. jokes aside, this transfer is hugely divisive & it's either a love/hate opinion. I'm coming at it knowing this is from Disney/Fox, who is giving up on physical media. I don't see this film being like Texas Chainsaw Massacre or Fifth Element which has multiple 4k releases & each 1 looks different.
@@chrisburns7979 yea I like that they are releasing their Disney+ stuff on physical, I'm still up in the air on this whole Sony deal, I guess it depends what Sonys is planning on releasing. I just hope we get the Die Hard sequels on 4K
I believe our society has gotten spoiled and entitled because it seems like a lot of movies that are released in 4k or upgraded to Blu-ray a lot of people complain about everything they had to grow up in where we did I was born in 1968 and the things we had to watch compared to the day is night and day I'm just grateful that we got true lies in 4k and it looks amazing to me. I mean I guess everybody's different people are complaining about bubba hotep I thought the movie was funny people can't just watch a movie anymore and just enjoy it for a movie.
I don't see anything wrong about consumers complaining about the video quality. Take Pirates of the Caribbean Curse of the Black Pearl. That transfer was butchered. The resolution is better than the 1080P but it suffers from dimness and bland colors. I have that problem with quite a few UHD titles. I like the transfer for True Lies on 4K but It's not great. Terminator 2 gets a lot of hate but I think that transfer looks better than True Lies. T2 does look digitally clean but I don't think it looks waxy. I can see pores and wrinkles on close up shots and I can also see faint traces of grain. To my eyes its a pleasing image. T2 on 4K is the best image over any other format. At least I think so.
Although I am not a fan of the True Lies 4k you reviewed, I liked your energy and demeanor, so Im subscribing to you! I also think the 2001 a space odyssey 4k is not good (would love to see you review that) .
Thanks man! I originally had a segment in this on 2001 A Space Odyssey but felt it went a little too off topic lol I've been considering making a video about that. I'll see if I can make that happen because I too was disappointed in the 4k.
@@thelastmoviestanding omg please do! For example a lot of the highlights are blown out on the new 4k, skies that were once blue (to simulate night) are now desatured and look like day light. Skies that were once blue, now look purple, or a scene will be completely dipped in blue etc. Just bad. I prefer the 2007 bluray.
i agree with you about True Lies 4K because they never released anything higher resolution than SD so far. but anyway ill keep my Aliens Bluray, not gonna buy this DNR Aliens 4K.
I haven't got my Aliens 4K in yet, but yea I always keep my original Blu-rays because for me it's not just a DNR thing, HDR sometimes doesn't do it for me.
Aliens 4K UHD was a mixed bag for me. Some scenes looked fantastic and I could still see enough grain and plenty of detail without any dead eyes or obvious fake detail. The main hive scene wasn’t overly dark either. I was distracted by the aggressive DNR on medium shots of actors where they were either slightly out of focus to begin with or it was a darkly lit scene such as the red lit power outage scenes. This makes me think I won’t like the True Lies UHD. I wish there was a better version but it was still worth watching even with the DNR. The Atmos was solid too. Oh and my setup is LG CX OLED and UB820 player
Overly judgmental attitudes can be fueled by resentment or hate. There are a lot of those people out there against James Cameron... which is insane to me. Why? Because of Avatar? Because of the Studio Canal release of T2? He will remaster T2, I'm sure of it. But to hate on Cameron for one bad release?? That's beyond childish
@@LukeLovesRose just one? just from Cameron, we've got T2, Titanic, True Lies, The Abyss, and Aliens, all tampered with. dnr/degraining/AI w/e you want to call these, they do not look filmic on a big screen. the bigger your screen, the worse these releases look.
@@MisplacedMedia Stop. Just stop. Ive heard nothing but great things about Titanic. Now that ive seen Titanic myself, i concur. Its a phenomenal transfer. Youre just picking these releases apart for the sake of it
T2 was terrible. The Abyss for me is great, Aliens great again, Titanic great again, True Lies not as many issues that the T2 release has, and there are only a few issues. But again, that's just my opinion. I don't really care if someone rants and raves about a poor transfer, as I'm okay with it. I own these, and I have watched these, and they are fine! It annoys me when people rant and rave that don't even own them. They have just gone with the screenshots/stills etc from other UA-camrs etc. If you own them and you're not happy with them then that is also fine as you didn't like them. All we had before was a DVD version of True Lies. This 4K release is considerably much, much better. But again, for me, I'm happy with them. Statements and opinions will just go back and forth, and it just causes a debate. Also there are only 2 reviewers that I trust anyway.
The only problem I have with using AI is the same problem I've always had with DNR. Too many studios just, to put it simply, turn it up to 11 and let it do its thing. They're using a sledgehammer when they should be using a paintbrush. I feel like there's very little to no quality control. Of course it's going to look better than the dvd or blu-ray, it's 4k. Watch it again, then watch it again and you'll start to notice things that you *should* be complaining about.
I'm not going to disagree with you at all, I think everything your saying is EXTREMELY valid. especially with there being no quality control. I totally agree with the AI thing, I feel the same about some HDR films, I don't think HDR always benefits a film. I just bought an imported Blu-Ray of Dangerous Beauty from 1998 (which never got released in the US), & I watched the HD version on digital to compare. That film, on both Blu-Ray & Digital, has a lot of film scratches all over it. very noticeable. If the original negative is that damaged & it takes AI to fix it, I would except that. but I 100% agree with you that studios take AI & DNR to an 11. & sometimes its way too much lol. Hence why I love what boutique labels are doing.
Great video, and I agree with you on this. I thought it looked incredible!! I'm sure a lot of people don't have their TVs set up correctly, or need their eyes testing 😂
thank man! yea it looks incredible to me too. I totally get other peoples opinions about it but I also think its popular & easy to jump on a hate band wagon over nothing lol
I've been saying the same thing! People love to complain no matter what, it's really annoying. Be grateful for what we're getting, people make it sound like it's unwatchable. I'm sure most do it just for clicks but it's really annoying to hear everyone bitch all the time over everything! I like your take and I agree with you. New subscriber 👍🏽
@sublind4225 So basically, everyone should just be peasant consumers and just accept whatever's given to them like a bunch of slaves. No one should be grateful for a director who became famous with a movie about the dangers of AI, uses AI to destroy the detail and look of the original film. If that's your message, then people who care for film preservation and history are not being represented.
@@CuriousEnthusiast956 Very well-worded. The complaints are justified and honestly quite tame and reasonable considering the implications this has for the decline of physical media. No home video release has ever had this many mistakes in it before, so it makes sense that there's historic backlash from the consumers.
I love the way people get upset over star wars it was a kids movie with muppets 1977 moden swashbuckler haha now disney have made it more violent trying to make it's something it never was if that makes sense 🤣
I think it looked amazing. I watched the digital version from last year and thought some parts did look waxy... But that was pretty much absent on the disc version. Have to disagree though, Weird Science was a little too grainy all the way through. And there are worse ones than that...
'Too grainy'? You clearly don't understand film. Grain is the Image! That is why on T2 and True Lies, everybody looks like wax figures, where as Weird Science on the Arrow Blu Ray is beautifully filmic and people look like real people!
@@CuriousEnthusiast956 Oh please, spare me the "you clearly don't understand film" bullshit. It is perfectly possible to understand it well and still hate excessive grain as an aesthetic choice. Why would anyone WANT a film to look like Weird Science where there's more grain that actual detail? That will never make sense to me. Grain is detail? Where? There's no clarity because it's so grainy. Light to moderate levels of grain are fine, because there's usually a corresponding uptick in sharpness and clarity. Apart from 2 or 3 shots in True Lies where people do look a little smooth, it looks amazing, but no 4k looks perfect all the way through - there's usually a few shots that look blurry or soft or bad for various reasons due to the way it was filmed so I think people are histrionically overreacting way too much.
@@jamied1579 Listen buddy, you can look at a screenshot of any scene from the transfer, and people look like mummies left in a freezer. Don't give me your 'oh please' garbage. If you like garbage transfers for movies that are made before the 2000s and you like everything looking like a crappy Taylor Swift music video, then go right ahead and enjoy it. But don't pretend to be objective on film. And there's no overreacting here. It's called calling out revisionism and having history preserved. If we can't have releases properly, then why the hell have them at all?
@@jamied1579 'Get over yourself'. Jeez, you really sound like a noble, objective individual that isn't using insults like a juvenile 5 year old. Except that some 5 year olds are more mature😁😁. No pal, you get over Yourself.
Don’t give them ideas. The Blu Ray has a great transfer with very organic film grain. Scrubbing the image would really take away from the gritty atmosphere of Terminator.
To be honest I own an old European copy of The Abyss & True Lies. It costs a lot to import them to India. But then I managed to get an Open Matte version of The Abyss on the interwebs. It's 75 GB big. And it's awesome on my 65'' TV without the black bars. If you've got a 75" TV or even bigger screens with projectors, the underwater scenes are going to give a feel of watching epic IMAX scenes. It's awsome. And this is probably going to get me attacked but the truth is I'm really loving the bootleg open matte Special Edition of The Abyss. And so, despite years of eagerly following every bit of news about The Abyss home release, I'm not planning to buy The Abyss. I might buy True Lies in the future if the cost comes down in the Indian market.
75gb? WOW! Yea don't over pay for the import prices in its not something you feel you truly want at the moment. There's a lot of imports I want from Australia but the shipping is somethings as much if not more than the movie, new lol
The way I see it James Cameron is the artist here, he made these films. And he oversaw these releases and said “yes this is how I want my movies to look” Who am I to argue with him? If he wants his movies to look the way they do on these 4k discs that’s how he wants them to look. You can be upset about it all you want, but that’s the way it is.
@@ScruffyWarlord not quite - its not "noise reduction", its AI assuming to "fill in the gaps" or making assumptions which is not visible or lost in the film. It can come across as waxy which is the same effect as DNR but it is not "reducing" film grain, its actually "adding" artificial film.
Hell no, you really need to get your eyes checked. This IS the worst looking 4K I’ve ever seen. “Disney didn’t have to release this, be thankful” - No. They shouldn’t have released it looking like this. You are gaslighting yourself.
Thanks! Your last comment didn't go unseen. the very last thing I want for this channel to come across mean spirited to anyone in this amazing community, I realized I may have overstepped a little with that 1st edit.
@@thelastmoviestanding I think social media in general and "bad faith actors/trolls" in particular has made everything so polarizing these days, a simple difference of opinion or failed attempt at humour can often come across as "mean-spirited" but the "fault" is often as much in the perception as the delivery. I sincerely appreciate your comment and to be fair I may well have "overstepped" myself ! I value truth and integrity above all so I have massive respect for DFIC's position (even if I'm not quite as "obsessed" with the minutiae as he is) but I also appreciate your take on this, you may very well be correct in your assessment that most people will be absolutely fine with this release and if you're genuinely happy with it then there's nothing wrong in saying so. Everyone is entitled to their opinion 🙂👍
@@tigerblue42 I 100% agree. I never originally wanted to review new releases, the UA-cam space is already overfilled with that content with creators doing it far better than I, & I watch those videos & rely on their prospectives. I just believe in having receipts if your going to debate someone's opinions, & try to do it in a way that's not calling them out or being negative, which is sometimes hard to do & people will feel how they are going to feel about it.
Uh...but people Do give instructions to the projectionist. If the film isn't in focus, or screwing up, or not in frame...then yes, they let them know. So that the viewing is Better.
Sometimes I feel like a lot of 4K blu-ray enthusiasts have a hive mind of sorts. They all seem to use the exact same buzzwords when describing certain issues they all seem to share with a select few releases that you'll almost always find in a lot of their "worst 4K blu-rays" rankings. You see them go ballistic if a movie shot on film has next to no grain on the 4K master due to heavy DNR, stating that it gives the overall image a "waxy" feel where a lot of the characters look like models, but I've watched some of the examples they've applied that buzzword to and they all look pretty great in my eyes. The Empire Strikes Back 4K blu-ray in particular has very little if any grain and is one of the best looking films in the format that I've seen in the three years I've been watching 4K movies for. It honestly feels refreshing to see a 4K blu-ray reviewer whose opinion feels more honest and not just a repeat of what everyone else is saying.
I really appreciate that Aimee! I agree it's a lot of the same buzzwords & same movies on the same lists. I haven't seen the Star Wars 4K's yet but the screen shots I've seen make me really nervous, but you speaking so highly of it makes me want to check it out.
So let me guess this right Aimee, people speaking out against nonsensical revisionism where a film's detail is destroyed with DNR and AI by the man who made the TERMINATOR, a movie about the DANGERS of AI is a terrible thing, but mainstream 4K critics can keep going on about how great many revisionist transfers are and that's not a hive mine?! Seems like you have a double standard against people speaking out against the revisionism of films and just want to keep up with the Joneses.
@@CuriousEnthusiast956 A.I. itself isn't a problem. The way certain people use it is a problem, and the way it's been used to enhance the look of Aliens, True Lies and The Abyss isn't. I'm all for filmmakers making revisions to their work if they feel there's still room for improvement as long as those revisions feel necessary. I personally take issue with certain blu-ray remasters of older movies shot on film because in many cases, the level of grain can be distracting, especially in the case of Aliens where I remember certain darker scenes in the original blu-ray release being a flickery mess due to how much of the grain was left intact. What's been done with this new release isn't like with the original blu-ray of Predator where every character looks like they've had too much makeup applied. The A.I. technique used was a way of scrubbing the distracting flickering of the grain without losing any of the detail present in the frames of the film, and based on what I've seen in reviews and screenshots, I think they did an amazing job.
@@AimeeRose1997 'revisions feel necessary'. So you're literally admitting that revisions are not based in reality, but based on feelings. And what feelings is that may i ask? That everybody needs to look like they're in a shampoo commercial or Taylor Swift music video while killing off detail and the original aesthetics of the cinematographers work? Is there no humanitarianism for the cinematographer here?!! Grain is NOT a FLICKER! Grain is the image of the film. That is why 2001 has grain. Ben Hur has grain. Every IMAX 70MM film HAS grain. Grain is the film. There have been countless screenshot comparisons and studies that showcase that DNR KILLS detail! I have seen the True Lies 4K screenshots, it doesn't look any different to the T2 4K which is one of the biggest embarrassments in video history! Do you not find it the slightly most hypocritical that the man who made a film about the dangers of AI, uses AI to commit criminal revisionism to his own film? Can you not see that at the very least?!
@@AimeeRose1997 If you find grain which is the image of the film 'distracting', then don't watch anything before the 21st century. Why the hell are you even buying these movies?!
I hope you don’t get bullied into removing or editing this video especially the Films at Home part. Unless he takes down that first video it’s a valid criticism on your part regardless of him putting up a video now backtracking on what he said. Like you a lot of my collection is still DVD, several times I’ve finally upgraded to a Blu-ray only for the 4K to come out 2 months later lol
Thanks so much! I admittedly did have a 1st edit I posted & removed then reposted this version, it's the exact same video but the original had a crying baby sound effect over the opening montage which was maybe a tad too much lol, other than that getting taken out, the video is exactly the same & I won't remove it =) lol yea that irks me when I upgrade to Blu-Ray & the 4k gets announced right after hahaha. I'm focusing now on just upgrading all my Fox & Touchstone DVDs first.
@@thelastmoviestanding his point about Star Wars was that he holds on to his vhs copies because the original edits hold a more nostalgic place in his heart. He owns the 4k special editions but would prefer that the original editions come out on 4k someday..yet he's happy to have at least some means to watch the originals over not at all.
I'm tired of fans thinking they "own" movies. We don't. We can buy them, and watch them. We do not own the film on the disc. If you don't like it, don't buy it..
Fine, then so shall it be. It was the fans who helped make these movies box office hits, and the directors big names. I guess it's totally normal for studios to hypocritically alter their copyright work because they can't be questioned. Keep being a Hollywood apologist consumer.
The Spain import doesn't look like a bootleg. It is really good and if you have a problem with the new 4K, grab it. I don't think you will be disappointed with the image or sound.
That's correct! I own that version and it looks very good indeed.The sound is good also. Own True Lies in every format released, from VHS, Laserdisc, DVD, Spain BLU RAY version and now it's 4k release.
The Spain loophole bootleg is actually from a official HD source. DVHS source that was released a long time ago. It was like HD VHS
I haven't see the Spanish import but from all the comparison videos that have gone up since this 4K release, It doesn't look bad.
It looks average, like many HD transfers of the early 2000s. It has been DNR'd for grain management. There are original source rips online which look sharper
The best retail version we got of True Lies was a D-VHS of it. D-VHS was 1080p and HD but on a vhs form. The format flopped and we landed where we was till the 4k dropped.
You know what's crazy, I literally just found out about this D-VHS format about a week ago. I never even heard of it before. I knew of Beta, VHS, Laserdisc, mini disc lol, but never D-VHS. Is it the same size a regular VHS or bigger?
@@thelastmoviestanding Same size just more advanced higher-quality and more expensive tapes. The largest capacity tape made would hold the equivalate of 50gig and small as 25gig of video bitrate data or 8hrs run time.
I would agree about Titanic. It was my favorite 4K from 2023. I did a top-10 list and surprised myself when I chose it.
Titanic loos amazing on 4k! most of my favorite 4K are 90s movies
I think people are accepting this 4k because they only had the dvd before. I had the Spanish Bluray so it's not that special to me and the 4k very waxy look
I just discovered your channel and loved the intro. It put a smile on my face with a little chuckle, so I subscribed. :)
lol Welcome aboard!
Regardless of the quality of a rerelease of a film what concerns me is the modification of a film to fit so-called modern sensibilities.
Dude, TOTALLY agree about the damn sticker that’s on all 3 new James Cameron 4 4K releases! HATE THEM. Peeled them off VERY carefully but almost ruined all 3 slipcovers.
yea the stickers are AWFUL! lol DANG you almost ruined them? lol I was SUPER SUPER careful with the True Lies sticker & luckily had no issues but it took like 15mins lol. I'm still waiting for my Aliens 4K to come in.
@@thelastmoviestanding I normally order direct via Amazon but, at the time I ordered ( 3 or so months ago I believe) Target actually had the better deal. Then heard Amazon had delay issues with all 3 Cameron films, so I lucked in. Got all 3 at once. But damn man, normally those stickers come right off the slipcover. Not these 3. lol. Anyways, my 3 movies are good and sticker free. Man, whenever get your copy of Aliens, heads up, it looks AMAZING. Enjoy!
I always warm them up with a hair dryer and then peel them right off. Been doing it for 30 years with dvds and CD’s etc
I just leave them on.
Had 'The Abyss' on VHS, and then letterbox VHS and then DVD...and then it was just a phys. media desert...from about 1997 until today - when the 4kHD arrived...so I'm stoked to watch this tomorrow ! 'True Lies' is one of the funniest Bond films ever made. Bill Paxton is the best sleazy car salesman... and Jamie Lee Curtis... just amazing.
Bill Paxton was absolutely hilarious in this!! lol "I got a little dick, it's pathetic" 🤣🤣
I also agree with the sticker. I used my daughter's hairdryer and carefully peeled them all off. Particularly frustrating with foil effect slipcovers.
Some of the scenes were quite jarring because they looked like wax figures to me, but that's only in certain parts. True Lies in 4K as a whole looks absolutely amazing, and I love this movie. I'm very happy to have it in my collection.
I also had True Lies on VHS, DVD & now the 4K. I also think the 4K looks fine & is a great upgrade. You wanna see a bad 4K, look at the 4K of T2. Now that was badly done.
As for Star Wars, I grew up with the SE Star Wars films, those are the only ones I’ve ever known so they’ve always been fine to me.
I so appreciate your view on this film...it is also one of my fav 90's film that I watched over and over on VHS as a kid. I am so thankful for a 4k and Blu Ray upgrade. Because I hated the DVD version 📀 that was not in anamorphic widescreen that the screen was so damn small to watch. So im happy for this new upgrade 😊😊
Thanks man!! & same! SOOO HAPPY with the 4k.
Its my personal preference but I cant stand the clean waxy look of this. The one thing I love most about actual FILM is that its shot on FILM and has that beautiful dream like quality to it along with the film grain. I enjoy a pristine clean look to movies too like John Wick but why take away the most defining and beautiful aspects of the look of a film.
I took a similar position- maybe I’m just not a purist and more a “modernist.” I just simply love physical media and want it looking its best on 4k.
On my set up I really did think this looked great.
I guess I’m just an “against the grain” kinda guy lol 😂
I agree, I kinda of like the "modernism" of it. I don't hate grain, but sometimes 4K can really really show you all the grain lol
There was a James Cameron interview I wish I had added in the video from a 2012 documentary called Side By Side (Digital Vs Film doc), where he said "I'm done with film & never going back". People are going to complain even more when the Terminator 4K (coming out this year supposedly) looks the exact same lol "Modern"
If you're against grain, then you shouldn't be watching older films. Just watch modern movies where everything looks like a shampoo commercial and people look like wax figures. Stop justifying people's lack of access to see something more accurate to the theatrical release.
@@CuriousEnthusiast956 I’m not against all film grain. I know it depends highly on the film stock used for those original films and even types of lenses.
Example being taking a 16mm film and putting onto 4k. It’s going to enhance the grain structure even more since it’s on 16mm and we’ll see even more grain.
When done right, I think a 4k scan of an older film can look amazing. But sometimes some DNR may not be a horrible thing. But it needs to be done right. From my understanding it depends on quite a bit of different factors.
In some cases, if all that film grain is now “over-exposed” would that not show even more grain than what the director would have originally intended?
Then maybe it could work in the reverse, like with Cameron who obviously didn’t want as much grain because he wanted a more “futuristic” look in his films but at the time couldn’t get that look because filming digitally didn’t exist back then.
Now - he’s able to create the film as he originally intended.
Dude, I gotta admit... I just laugh when people tell me they're gonna stick with their old DVDs. Lmao!😆 Sure there are a few shots that definitely look a little "smooth." But the 4K is easily the best this film has ever looked and likely will ever look. I'm just happy we finally have it on 4K (and blu ray). I had so much fun revisiting it. Great video! Just discovered your channel and subbed. Keep up the great work!
Thanks man! I'm huge fan of your channel. Massive Tony Scott fan right here as well lol I just bought the Enemy Of The State extended cut DVD a few months back based off 1 of your videos. Im about to get the Crimson Tide extended dvd too.
@thelastmoviestanding Oh right on man -- thanks so much... so we've probably chatted in comments before and I'm just having a brain fart or something - LMAO! (the username does look familiar lol!)... If so, sorry about that man. Glad I found your channel. Very cool about the DVDs. It's cases like this where sometimes I almost wish I didn't have such an issue with standard definition lol. Really hoping they do right by us Tony Scott fans and put the extended versions of those bad boys out on 4K someday.
@@TheOriginalFuzz Oh don't sweat it man, I watch mostly on my personal YT channel where I have YT Premium. I just started this channel in January.
Yea it seems Paramount's the only studio that put out his movies on 4K. I had to import Last Boy Scout on Blu-ray because the only US version is a double feature with Last Man Standing & they are both on the same disc. plus I hate double feature sets with 2 totally different movies, messes up my organization hahaha
Every movie and television show I own is on DVD. I've never owned a Blu-ray or 4K release, and honestly, I don't really care to upgrade my collection. There is nothing wrong with DVDs, and companies still make them and release new content onto them, so I will continue to collect them. Go ahead and laugh. I don't care.
The old DVD weren't great, but at least they didn't use AI to make everyone look like wax figures, coming from a director who first became famous with a movie about the dangers of AI. Keep on being a good little consumer!
I picked up True Lies , The Abbys , Aliens and Titanic all in 4K because I love all these films and want to watch them with the highest quality and little things like some DNR didn’t effect my viewing experience. Plus the movies were only sold for 25 bucks a peace not even full price so I think there’s just groups of people that will never be happy with anything.
very true. I think True Lies is the worst ive ever seen people complain a movie lol
I'm just grateful I can get it now. I remember always looking for this movie.
I think they are finally back in stock. I know Aliens is on Amazon.
If everyone looks like wax figures, you still haven't found the real film.
I’m late to the party! This is one movie I’ve never watched so I’m sure I’d be quite impressed with the 4K release. I will say this, Jeff is about the only one of those guys out of that bunch that I enjoy. Maybe I’ll grab this when it goes back in stock at some point!
My friends and I went to see True Lies.We come out of the theater, my friend goes "Hey, Alex, you're fired!" I miss those guys.
I support this message, well done.
Yes, there are other films that might have the texture that certain folks/reviewers want. It seems like the source for True Lies didn't allow that hope to be fulfilled.
A quick Google search shows they have been working on these remasters for years, trying to figure out the best sources and best sauce to serve it with. In the end, I agree and we really should be grateful we got another version of this.
Maybe one day in the not too distant future a better source will be found and another remaster will take place, or more likely AI will have better tools and they will take another pass at this, until then enjoy what you can.
Hi....new subscriber! You make some good points. Thanks for making this video. I finally got a copy. Bought all three. Loved how The Abyss looks! Looking forward to watching the other two! I also hear that a lot of detail is still visible on screen so that's a great thing!
Thank man!! I haven't got my Aliens yet. Abyss I didn't order, I was going to wait before I knew they would sell out so fast lol I'll get it on the next batch. If True Lies is "the worst" of the 3 lol which is not bad at all, I can't wait to see Aliens!
You can still see plenty of detail in the True Lies transfer right? I fast forwarded to get a glimpse and saw nothing but a clear and detailed picture...faces, clothing and many other textures are still quite visible to my eyes.
@@carlsartuniverse its a great transfer all around. Everything is super clear. it really is the best the movie has ever looked.
I tried to get Star Trek 2 from the studio without the score and they literally have zero cuts that are not married from video to audio.
Just wanted the dialog and video, talked to the guy in control, got the bad news…
Sometimes stuff is gonna be as good as it gets mix and video wise.
If we’re getting better video at “any point” we should be grateful.
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I get where you're coming from, but I'm not going to be "grateful" to a multi-billion dollar company for selling me a product. I realize there are some angry people out there taking it way too far, but of the videos you quoted that I've watched, they all seemed pretty reasonable to me. Yeah, they pointed out the things they didn't like or they thought could have been done better, but they weren't trashing James Cameron or even saying you shouldn't buy it. They're reviewing a product, talking about the pros and cons is kind of the point. And if the quality of it wasn't important, everyone would still just be watching the DVD and wouldn't even care at all that it was being re-released in 4K. And you're right, a lot of people don't care, and won't even be getting the 4K, but many of those who have invested in the required equipment and are spending money on the most expensive version of a product that they may actually already own in another format, are only spending all that money because having a great looking picture is something they value. On top of this, these particular releases are using new technology that hasn't really been used before, and a lot of people understandably want to know what the results are before buying it sight unseen. From watching these reviews, I came away thinking that it sounds like a very promising technology, and there are only minor complaints about one of the three transfers that used it. What's so terrible about that? I simply don't understand what the issue is with people pointing out that they saw some issues that either bothered them, or that they think might bother some people who are coming to their channel specifically to see reviews for these products.
The UA-cam discussion has been fine. It’s the forums that are a complete dumpster fire with people throwing around hyperbolic terms like “unwatchable” about these releases.
@@maduross I don't think the term is hyperbolic. The A.I. paint-over distresses me enough that it's unwatchable.
@@maduross A director who made a film about the dangers of AI, then uses AI to destroy the image of his own film is bound to be one hunk of garbage.
I enjoyed True Lies in the theater. I enjoyed my VHS copy in the late 90s. I enjoy my DVD every cpl of years when i watch it. Its just a good movie. Itll be good on any format.
Great points! People are really entitled today. I just watched Aliens on 4K. I thought it was great. Looking forward to True Lies.
thanks! hope you enjoy True Lies on 4k, I think it looks great!
I love True Lies and this is definitely a huge jump on physical media!
Just watched it i thought it looked great and sounded amazing i don,t get the what the fuss is about 🤔
New viewer here. Before my copy of True Lies arrived, i watched several reviews and was worried about my purchases along with The Abyss and Aliens. True Lies still looked damn good. I have around 8K titles in my collection, and i have seen worse much worse. We should all be respectful of Cameron and his talent and faults. It's his vision, after all. At least he took the time to do this or supervise the process.
8k? wow! lol I'm creeping up on 2k in my collection.
So we should all be grateful peasants and bend our knees to a man who first became famous with a film about the dangers of AI, proceeds to use AI to destroy the detail of his own films, make everyone look like wax figures, do a George Lucas on the transfer but let's buy like a bunch of good old consumers. What a good message to send for those who care about preserving something close to the original experience on a digital format.
What about Arnold's googly eyes
Hollywood must make way too much money... shame they not investing enough in looking after tge greatest classic films of all time. Imagine all those films 🎥 sitting their degradation beyond repair.
I agree with you and all 3 Cameron 4Ks are great to have
I finally just watched True Lies tonight and had a great time. It honestly wasn’t that noticeable, only in a few parts and certainly not enough to affect my enjoyment. I thought it looked fantastic.
You bring up a great point about these negative reviews driving people away. Thats really the last thing we need in this hobby. If you are a fan of this film there should be ZERO hesitation in picking up this release.
Totally agree man! the nit picking is too much. I only expect that from people who are just now seeing the film for the 1st time. not people claiming they've loved it since it came out, fi you really loved it then you have seen it so many times that you watch it for the film not the technology used to present it.
Good points. But I still think people as a whole should voice their opinions. If no one says anything, then filmmakers/studios will continue to half-ass future releases thinking it is ok. But also it is important to use constructive criticism and talk about the good points. I did love the 4K of this and did not think it was as bad as everyone else says and I would recommend it to anyone.
I 100% agree! At the time I made this video there were ONLY negative videos about it, the positives hadn't made their way to UA-cam yet, probably because of the delayed shipping & shortages.
@@thelastmoviestanding No, it was because the disc is garbage.
Why are you even reviewing 4Ks? If this is not a bad 4K, then what is? Seriously I’m asking.
Thank you.
Have the BlueRay for over a decade. just dug it out the Garage
The Abyss looks very good. Aliens is ok. True Lies is very bad. Looks better if turn off HDR for me
I'm not a fan of HDR either, I love when studios or boutiques release 4Ks just as 4Ks & no HDR.
It helps with True Lies anyway
@@thelastmoviestanding Its pure marketing bullshit, the advertised "4K" is 2160p not 4K. Their "HDR" is just tone mapping, not actual HDR.
@@MarCuseus LMAO!! literally!
If you're rocking a new oled you won't care what some nit picking film grain critic has say, you're gonna buy it regardless. Like you said we should be thankful given physical media's future is uncertain.
This is the best review I've seen of True Lies 4K.
Thanks!!
@@thelastmoviestandingGotta say that your review is spot on! The fact that people are literally trying to compare this release with the god awful original Predator release on Blu-ray is down right laughable at best. That release was indeed DNR'd completely to death. This was where the DNR was done right.
Also what happened to all of these film geeks talking about respecting the director's intent? Now more than ever it's seems to me people want these directors to do what they want 100% vs the director's actual input into what they actually intended!
I didn't even know this was released!! I've been waiting for a release of this for years!
I hope you're not too discerning. If you're O.K. with just any old thing, then you'll probably be very happy.
After the Terminator 2 debacle with WAXING from DNR to find out it was a 3D version error.
??? I can understand a mistake but that should have been caught during the process and nobody noticed and still hasn't been re-done. Then waiting to long to do the 4k allows the Negative to degrade more.Lucky in 1997 George Lucas noticed how badly the star wars Negative had become and we could have lost it if it hadn't been restored the Trilogy. I have been watching the dvd to Blu-ray to 4k and you will notice that many of a certain age are seeing the Digital Manipulation instantly because they have seen the analog version most of their lives and to suddenly see it with extreme DNR on TVs that show everything .I can understand the shock .I also understand what they needed to do to fix the Negative issues that time creates.I already have the Aliens 4k and it required adjustments in my 4k player to get the proper visual settings and it worked not perfect but very Watchable. Good Video 😎
That really scratches my head. It's like I'm going to make coffee but pour juice in my Expresso machine?
Aliens , the abyss and true lies on 4k dolby vision and atmos . I am great full to have these . And i enjoy these movies for how james Cameron made theme . And not for how every second of the movie looks .
The 4k is the best it’s ever looked. I’ll agree it could be better. IMO James Cameron best movie is t2. Love all his movies.
I disagree. The Spanish Blu Ray is the best version. The processing on the 4K is just too distracting and takes you out the movie. Especially the artificial looking googly eyes the AI puts on people.
"This movie looks amazing in 4K"
No, it doesnt.
OMG, I am really loving this channel.
thanks so much!
You don't have to downplay your words by saying maybe you're biased, or maybe you're this or that. You're speaking nothing but facts! This movie never had a blu ray release and took 25 years to upgrade from the dvd release, and everyone was waiting for ages for this movie to come out in at least a blu ray release. But instead, we got something better and it got released in 4K UHD! So basically, it went from having a standard dvd release to upgrading all the way to 4K UHD in 25 years, and people are still complaining for some minor DNR that was made. It's like they want to wait another 25 years to get the transfer they wish they had, and that would make it 50 years after the dvd release!! There is nothing biased or fan-boyish by being grateful for something we never had and possibly thought of never getting. But we did, and it's faaar better than its previous releases, and that's the point that matters. If it's an upgrade, if it's watchable, if it's better than what was available before, then there's nothing to complain about.
Yes, technical "flaws" SHOULD be pointed out when reviewing all these releases, but they shouldn't be a burden for reviewers making these releases discouraging for fans of the movie to buy the movie, just because they have a very opinionated review on them. If it's that bad, everyone will notice it. And it's not like these studios that produce these transfers are going to release them every once in a while, just because some reviewers on youtube are nitpicking the shit out of them. Until the point where it's frustrating for fans who want to upgrade, but then have second thoughts. I just got the 4K UHD and it's fine and watchable and rewatchable! It doesn't have to be the best all the time. So buy with confidence.
Thanks for backing me up! truly means a lot!
good video. sorry what your saying is if i pay £35 for a 4k of true lies and i am not not happy with the transfer i should be happy with it????
I honestly wouldn't know. I only paid $22 on Amazon for it lol. jokes aside, this transfer is hugely divisive & it's either a love/hate opinion.
I'm coming at it knowing this is from Disney/Fox, who is giving up on physical media. I don't see this film being like Texas Chainsaw Massacre or Fifth Element which has multiple 4k releases & each 1 looks different.
@thelastmoviestanding Disney have changed tact on media at the moment
@@chrisburns7979 yea I like that they are releasing their Disney+ stuff on physical, I'm still up in the air on this whole Sony deal, I guess it depends what Sonys is planning on releasing. I just hope we get the Die Hard sequels on 4K
And ya right people should be grateful must have been so much harder making older movies
I believe our society has gotten spoiled and entitled because it seems like a lot of movies that are released in 4k or upgraded to Blu-ray a lot of people complain about everything they had to grow up in where we did I was born in 1968 and the things we had to watch compared to the day is night and day I'm just grateful that we got true lies in 4k and it looks amazing to me. I mean I guess everybody's different people are complaining about bubba hotep I thought the movie was funny people can't just watch a movie anymore and just enjoy it for a movie.
I don't see anything wrong about consumers complaining about the video quality. Take Pirates of the Caribbean Curse of the Black Pearl. That transfer was butchered. The resolution is better than the 1080P but it suffers from dimness and bland colors. I have that problem with quite a few UHD titles. I like the transfer for True Lies on 4K but It's not great. Terminator 2 gets a lot of hate but I think that transfer looks better than True Lies. T2 does look digitally clean but I don't think it looks waxy. I can see pores and wrinkles on close up shots and I can also see faint traces of grain. To my eyes its a pleasing image. T2 on 4K is the best image over any other format. At least I think so.
New t2 4k coming out with new transfer
Although I am not a fan of the True Lies 4k you reviewed, I liked your energy and demeanor, so Im subscribing to you! I also think the 2001 a space odyssey 4k is not good (would love to see you review that) .
Thanks man! I originally had a segment in this on 2001 A Space Odyssey but felt it went a little too off topic lol I've been considering making a video about that. I'll see if I can make that happen because I too was disappointed in the 4k.
@@thelastmoviestanding Sounds good ! I'd like to see that too ! 👍
@@thelastmoviestanding omg please do! For example a lot of the highlights are blown out on the new 4k, skies that were once blue (to simulate night) are now desatured and look like day light. Skies that were once blue, now look purple, or a scene will be completely dipped in blue etc. Just bad. I prefer the 2007 bluray.
@@nabilleal2315 we are on the exact same page! the blowout highlights were what ruined it for me. especially on the ship exteriors in space.
That was yesterday. Today is today.
Great video and Completely agree.
i agree with you about True Lies 4K because they never released anything higher resolution than SD so far. but anyway ill keep my Aliens Bluray, not gonna buy this DNR Aliens 4K.
I haven't got my Aliens 4K in yet, but yea I always keep my original Blu-rays because for me it's not just a DNR thing, HDR sometimes doesn't do it for me.
Aliens 4K UHD was a mixed bag for me. Some scenes looked fantastic and I could still see enough grain and plenty of detail without any dead eyes or obvious fake detail. The main hive scene wasn’t overly dark either.
I was distracted by the aggressive DNR on medium shots of actors where they were either slightly out of focus to begin with or it was a darkly lit scene such as the red lit power outage scenes. This makes me think I won’t like the True Lies UHD. I wish there was a better version but it was still worth watching even with the DNR. The Atmos was solid too. Oh and my setup is LG CX OLED and UB820 player
Ackshually, there's a Spanish edition Blu-ray. I pop it in the player, select the English audio track, and enjoy.
Resolution doesn't mean anything if all the detail is wiped out and everybody looks like live plastic dolls.
You can find a far better copy for free on the internet thats in 35mm, its like a diet grindhouse version.
the original 35mm print will always be king. I'll have to look for that grindhouse version.
@@thelastmoviestanding ua-cam.com/video/XLC1LxSrVH0/v-deo.html
I still expect a review to detail the faults of a release rather than being only thankful for a release. That’s form a fanboys’s point of view
Overly judgmental attitudes can be fueled by resentment or hate. There are a lot of those people out there against James Cameron... which is insane to me. Why? Because of Avatar? Because of the Studio Canal release of T2?
He will remaster T2, I'm sure of it. But to hate on Cameron for one bad release?? That's beyond childish
@@LukeLovesRose just one? just from Cameron, we've got T2, Titanic, True Lies, The Abyss, and Aliens, all tampered with. dnr/degraining/AI w/e you want to call these, they do not look filmic on a big screen.
the bigger your screen, the worse these releases look.
@@MisplacedMedia Stop. Just stop. Ive heard nothing but great things about Titanic. Now that ive seen Titanic myself, i concur. Its a phenomenal transfer. Youre just picking these releases apart for the sake of it
@@LukeLovesRose I haven't heard a single negative review on Titanic on 4K. However I do hope they rerelease T2 and remaster it and fix the issues.
T2 was terrible. The Abyss for me is great, Aliens great again, Titanic great again, True Lies not as many issues that the T2 release has, and there are only a few issues. But again, that's just my opinion. I don't really care if someone rants and raves about a poor transfer, as I'm okay with it. I own these, and I have watched these, and they are fine! It annoys me when people rant and rave that don't even own them. They have just gone with the screenshots/stills etc from other UA-camrs etc. If you own them and you're not happy with them then that is also fine as you didn't like them. All we had before was a DVD version of True Lies. This 4K release is considerably much, much better. But again, for me, I'm happy with them. Statements and opinions will just go back and forth, and it just causes a debate. Also there are only 2 reviewers that I trust anyway.
The only problem I have with using AI is the same problem I've always had with DNR. Too many studios just, to put it simply, turn it up to 11 and let it do its thing. They're using a sledgehammer when they should be using a paintbrush. I feel like there's very little to no quality control. Of course it's going to look better than the dvd or blu-ray, it's 4k. Watch it again, then watch it again and you'll start to notice things that you *should* be complaining about.
I'm not going to disagree with you at all, I think everything your saying is EXTREMELY valid. especially with there being no quality control.
I totally agree with the AI thing, I feel the same about some HDR films, I don't think HDR always benefits a film.
I just bought an imported Blu-Ray of Dangerous Beauty from 1998 (which never got released in the US), & I watched the HD version on digital to compare. That film, on both Blu-Ray & Digital, has a lot of film scratches all over it. very noticeable. If the original negative is that damaged & it takes AI to fix it, I would except that. but I 100% agree with you that studios take AI & DNR to an 11. & sometimes its way too much lol. Hence why I love what boutique labels are doing.
Resolution doesn't matter if you do a garbage job.
where can you buy those Star Wars despecialized on blurays??? 🙏
I bought mine off Etsy. There should still be some on there. Ebay might have them too.
Right? I just have them on a flash drive
Where can I get those Star Wars bootlegs, and I have to ask… what region are they?
Region A or the other ones that won’t play in a Region 1 player?
I got mine off Etsy. They are Region A
@@thelastmoviestanding Sweet, thanks for replying back.
Also, keep up the great work. 😊
@@tonymata8070 absolutely! I think they are in eBay too but when I got mine in February it was off Etsy
Thanks for this great video and excellent points.
I spy...the new pickups waiting to get filed on the shelves 😆
Great video, and I agree with you on this. I thought it looked incredible!! I'm sure a lot of people don't have their TVs set up correctly, or need their eyes testing 😂
thank man! yea it looks incredible to me too. I totally get other peoples opinions about it but I also think its popular & easy to jump on a hate band wagon over nothing lol
They did it to make money, that’s the only reason, they are not our friends.
Haha yep. "They didn't have to do this......be grateful" lol what a pathetic mentality.
That's so TRUE,
and they are full of LIES
You saw what I did there 😂
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I've been saying the same thing! People love to complain no matter what, it's really annoying. Be grateful for what we're getting, people make it sound like it's unwatchable.
I'm sure most do it just for clicks but it's really annoying to hear everyone bitch all the time over everything! I like your take and I agree with you. New subscriber 👍🏽
Thanks!
@sublind4225 So basically, everyone should just be peasant consumers and just accept whatever's given to them like a bunch of slaves. No one should be grateful for a director who became famous with a movie about the dangers of AI, uses AI to destroy the detail and look of the original film. If that's your message, then people who care for film preservation and history are not being represented.
@@CuriousEnthusiast956 if that's how you choose to spin it, you do you
@@sublind4225 Understanding the nature of film and the image is not a spin. You want a spin, go play with a fidget spinner.
@@CuriousEnthusiast956 Very well-worded. The complaints are justified and honestly quite tame and reasonable considering the implications this has for the decline of physical media. No home video release has ever had this many mistakes in it before, so it makes sense that there's historic backlash from the consumers.
I love the way people get upset over star wars it was a kids movie with muppets 1977 moden swashbuckler haha now disney have made it more violent trying to make it's something it never was if that makes sense 🤣
Best Version i saw was at the Cinemas bitd , Awesome 😜
I think it looked amazing. I watched the digital version from last year and thought some parts did look waxy...
But that was pretty much absent on the disc version.
Have to disagree though, Weird Science was a little too grainy all the way through. And there are worse ones than that...
'Too grainy'? You clearly don't understand film. Grain is the Image! That is why on T2 and True Lies, everybody looks like wax figures, where as Weird Science on the Arrow Blu Ray is beautifully filmic and people look like real people!
@@CuriousEnthusiast956 Oh please, spare me the "you clearly don't understand film" bullshit. It is perfectly possible to understand it well and still hate excessive grain as an aesthetic choice.
Why would anyone WANT a film to look like Weird Science where there's more grain that actual detail? That will never make sense to me. Grain is detail? Where? There's no clarity because it's so grainy.
Light to moderate levels of grain are fine, because there's usually a corresponding uptick in sharpness and clarity.
Apart from 2 or 3 shots in True Lies where people do look a little smooth, it looks amazing, but no 4k looks perfect all the way through - there's usually a few shots that look blurry or soft or bad for various reasons due to the way it was filmed so I think people are histrionically overreacting way too much.
@@jamied1579 Listen buddy, you can look at a screenshot of any scene from the transfer, and people look like mummies left in a freezer. Don't give me your 'oh please' garbage. If you like garbage transfers for movies that are made before the 2000s and you like everything looking like a crappy Taylor Swift music video, then go right ahead and enjoy it. But don't pretend to be objective on film. And there's no overreacting here. It's called calling out revisionism and having history preserved. If we can't have releases properly, then why the hell have them at all?
@CuriousEnthusiast956 hahaha seriously?
Cry harder, Buddy. Get over yourself.
@@jamied1579 'Get over yourself'. Jeez, you really sound like a noble, objective individual that isn't using insults like a juvenile 5 year old. Except that some 5 year olds are more mature😁😁. No pal, you get over Yourself.
Why isn't The Terminator on 4K??
I think it just got announced to come out this fall
@@thelastmoviestanding T1 in 2160p has been "available" online for years
ua-cam.com/video/G4X9zZJco3Q/v-deo.html
Don’t give them ideas. The Blu Ray has a great transfer with very organic film grain. Scrubbing the image would really take away from the gritty atmosphere of Terminator.
Great video!
It’s a fine line between being grateful and being ripped off
To be honest I own an old European copy of The Abyss & True Lies. It costs a lot to import them to India.
But then I managed to get an Open Matte version of The Abyss on the interwebs. It's 75 GB big.
And it's awesome on my 65'' TV without the black bars. If you've got a 75" TV or even bigger screens with projectors, the underwater scenes are going to give a feel of watching epic IMAX scenes. It's awsome.
And this is probably going to get me attacked but the truth is I'm really loving the bootleg open matte Special Edition of The Abyss. And so, despite years of eagerly following every bit of news about The Abyss home release, I'm not planning to buy The Abyss. I might buy True Lies in the future if the cost comes down in the Indian market.
75gb? WOW! Yea don't over pay for the import prices in its not something you feel you truly want at the moment. There's a lot of imports I want from Australia but the shipping is somethings as much if not more than the movie, new lol
The way I see it James Cameron is the artist here, he made these films.
And he oversaw these releases and said “yes this is how I want my movies to look”
Who am I to argue with him? If he wants his movies to look the way they do on these 4k discs that’s how he wants them to look.
You can be upset about it all you want, but that’s the way it is.
100% agree!
I agree with you the blu ray is fine.
It's not DNR. It's AI upscaling. It's a different technology.
It’s still DNR at the end of the day. It’s just being achieved in a different way.
@@ScruffyWarlord not quite - its not "noise reduction", its AI assuming to "fill in the gaps" or making assumptions which is not visible or lost in the film. It can come across as waxy which is the same effect as DNR but it is not "reducing" film grain, its actually "adding" artificial film.
This. DNR is one thing, applying a layer of literal fake detail over the top of the film is the real problem here.
Hell yeah
Thank you so much! I'm subscribed. That youtuber needed to be put on blast
lol I think I know which 1 you are talking about 😂
Hell no, you really need to get your eyes checked. This IS the worst looking 4K I’ve ever seen.
“Disney didn’t have to release this, be thankful” - No. They shouldn’t have released it looking like this. You are gaslighting yourself.
Well done ! 🙂👍
Thanks! Your last comment didn't go unseen. the very last thing I want for this channel to come across mean spirited to anyone in this amazing community, I realized I may have overstepped a little with that 1st edit.
@@thelastmoviestanding I think social media in general and "bad faith actors/trolls" in particular has made everything so polarizing these days, a simple difference of opinion or failed attempt at humour can often come across as "mean-spirited" but the "fault" is often as much in the perception as the delivery. I sincerely appreciate your comment and to be fair I may well have "overstepped" myself ! I value truth and integrity above all so I have massive respect for DFIC's position (even if I'm not quite as "obsessed" with the minutiae as he is) but I also appreciate your take on this, you may very well be correct in your assessment that most people will be absolutely fine with this release and if you're genuinely happy with it then there's nothing wrong in saying so. Everyone is entitled to their opinion 🙂👍
@@tigerblue42 I 100% agree. I never originally wanted to review new releases, the UA-cam space is already overfilled with that content with creators doing it far better than I, & I watch those videos & rely on their prospectives. I just believe in having receipts if your going to debate someone's opinions, & try to do it in a way that's not calling them out or being negative, which is sometimes hard to do & people will feel how they are going to feel about it.
I would like to see those people buying movie tickets, then giving instructions to the projectionist 😂
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Uh...but people Do give instructions to the projectionist. If the film isn't in focus, or screwing up, or not in frame...then yes, they let them know. So that the viewing is Better.
Sometimes I feel like a lot of 4K blu-ray enthusiasts have a hive mind of sorts. They all seem to use the exact same buzzwords when describing certain issues they all seem to share with a select few releases that you'll almost always find in a lot of their "worst 4K blu-rays" rankings. You see them go ballistic if a movie shot on film has next to no grain on the 4K master due to heavy DNR, stating that it gives the overall image a "waxy" feel where a lot of the characters look like models, but I've watched some of the examples they've applied that buzzword to and they all look pretty great in my eyes. The Empire Strikes Back 4K blu-ray in particular has very little if any grain and is one of the best looking films in the format that I've seen in the three years I've been watching 4K movies for. It honestly feels refreshing to see a 4K blu-ray reviewer whose opinion feels more honest and not just a repeat of what everyone else is saying.
I really appreciate that Aimee! I agree it's a lot of the same buzzwords & same movies on the same lists. I haven't seen the Star Wars 4K's yet but the screen shots I've seen make me really nervous, but you speaking so highly of it makes me want to check it out.
So let me guess this right Aimee, people speaking out against nonsensical revisionism where a film's detail is destroyed with DNR and AI by the man who made the TERMINATOR, a movie about the DANGERS of AI is a terrible thing, but mainstream 4K critics can keep going on about how great many revisionist transfers are and that's not a hive mine?! Seems like you have a double standard against people speaking out against the revisionism of films and just want to keep up with the Joneses.
@@CuriousEnthusiast956 A.I. itself isn't a problem. The way certain people use it is a problem, and the way it's been used to enhance the look of Aliens, True Lies and The Abyss isn't. I'm all for filmmakers making revisions to their work if they feel there's still room for improvement as long as those revisions feel necessary. I personally take issue with certain blu-ray remasters of older movies shot on film because in many cases, the level of grain can be distracting, especially in the case of Aliens where I remember certain darker scenes in the original blu-ray release being a flickery mess due to how much of the grain was left intact. What's been done with this new release isn't like with the original blu-ray of Predator where every character looks like they've had too much makeup applied. The A.I. technique used was a way of scrubbing the distracting flickering of the grain without losing any of the detail present in the frames of the film, and based on what I've seen in reviews and screenshots, I think they did an amazing job.
@@AimeeRose1997 'revisions feel necessary'. So you're literally admitting that revisions are not based in reality, but based on feelings. And what feelings is that may i ask? That everybody needs to look like they're in a shampoo commercial or Taylor Swift music video while killing off detail and the original aesthetics of the cinematographers work? Is there no humanitarianism for the cinematographer here?!!
Grain is NOT a FLICKER! Grain is the image of the film. That is why 2001 has grain. Ben Hur has grain. Every IMAX 70MM film HAS grain. Grain is the film. There have been countless screenshot comparisons and studies that showcase that DNR KILLS detail! I have seen the True Lies 4K screenshots, it doesn't look any different to the T2 4K which is one of the biggest embarrassments in video history!
Do you not find it the slightly most hypocritical that the man who made a film about the dangers of AI, uses AI to commit criminal revisionism to his own film? Can you not see that at the very least?!
@@AimeeRose1997 If you find grain which is the image of the film 'distracting', then don't watch anything before the 21st century. Why the hell are you even buying these movies?!
Thanks for using my footage without asking...but cool.
Sub-scribed!
A picture that is too grainy bugs me waaaaay more than too much DNR.
So you prefer people looking like plastic live dolls than film being film? Ohhh, how modern and hip of you 🙄🙄.
@@CuriousEnthusiast956 Yes.
@@batman.darthmaul Well, at least you're honest in keeping up with the Joneses.
@@CuriousEnthusiast956 Oh, I'm waaaay ahead of them...
Indeed it looks very good.
People are always ungrateful, no matter how much you give them
I'll call a spade a spade, and call the True Lies 4K botched.
Define 'how much you give them'.
They didn't give you shit. They SOLD you an underwhelming product.
I would be pissed if I pre-ordered this. You cannot be “grateful” for the worst looking 4K ever made.
Who "gives" you physical media? I'll happily use that company.
2160p*
I hope you don’t get bullied into removing or editing this video especially the Films at Home part. Unless he takes down that first video it’s a valid criticism on your part regardless of him putting up a video now backtracking on what he said.
Like you a lot of my collection is still DVD, several times I’ve finally upgraded to a Blu-ray only for the 4K to come out 2 months later lol
Thanks so much!
I admittedly did have a 1st edit I posted & removed then reposted this version, it's the exact same video but the original had a crying baby sound effect over the opening montage which was maybe a tad too much lol, other than that getting taken out, the video is exactly the same & I won't remove it =)
lol yea that irks me when I upgrade to Blu-Ray & the 4k gets announced right after hahaha. I'm focusing now on just upgrading all my Fox & Touchstone DVDs first.
@@thelastmoviestanding his point about Star Wars was that he holds on to his vhs copies because the original edits hold a more nostalgic place in his heart. He owns the 4k special editions but would prefer that the original editions come out on 4k someday..yet he's happy to have at least some means to watch the originals over not at all.
Rub-a-dub-dub
Scrub-scrub-scrub!
I'm tired of fans thinking they "own" movies. We don't. We can buy them, and watch them. We do not own the film on the disc. If you don't like it, don't buy it..
Fine, then so shall it be. It was the fans who helped make these movies box office hits, and the directors big names. I guess it's totally normal for studios to hypocritically alter their copyright work because they can't be questioned. Keep being a Hollywood apologist consumer.
It sucks and looks terrible, deal with it!
Sounds like you’re the one with the real problem