Basically the same Blessings, but as Thrust is unavailable I believe, then take Precognition. You don't need Repost due to Crazy Crit chance already with the Ult. @@davidachstin3588
@@davidachstin3588 Flesh tearer + Uncanny strike/riposte, crit chance + unyielding (i don't know if there is a meaningful breakpoint for flak/carapace/maniac or not), mark personal preference both are fine.
23:00 The sheer number of people insisting the Duelling Sword was balanced on Psyker clearly indicates how few people have ever used Disrupt Destiny or Scrier's Gaze.
@@simoncorn1151 Oh sure, and then they should just give plasma guns and power swords to psykers. It was a psyker's weapon to begin with. That makes no sense.
By crack of bone goes really hard with the force greatsword too, because it's so easy to just chop heads with it to proc it several times with each sweep
Stupid schriers gaze uptime IME but I’m not sure how much I like the force swing when the weapon is already good at horde clear without it, feels redundant most of the time but maybe it’s cuz I’m still climbing to damnation
He already gave his most honest opinion on Ogryn. I’d say he’d go completely schizo if he talks about Ogryn again. Like the guy basically gave the best melee Ogryn build while not even being an Ogryn main. The builds still the same, it’s just worse now due to the talent tree change.
Well Ogryn now has new weapons both ranged and melee weapons and I’m looking for the most min maxed build for havoc 40 and only tanner has the kinda autism it takes to figure out every single minute detail
Doubt he will do that, he likes going full autism on power trips while playing broken builds (nothing wrong with that btw). Pretty hard to even reach close to that with ogryns nowdays.
Counter argument for warp speed. Being able to manually activate a movement speed buff can help you get into a better potion/out of a bad one/get into range of a unit if your swording it up. I won't accept it as bad. But you can play with it or play around not having it like many other nodes.
I thought we were already doing insane things with the purge staff build (which I constantly play with whenever I play with my psyker, it's so much fun and "See those hordes ? Me neither"). And then Tanner came back with so much more violence. For our greatest pleasure.
-gun- zealot psyker is really fun to play. I have been running a similar build for a while, but I had not considered true aim getting wasted. One skill point saved I suppose, thanks.
Something I've also noticed with Perilous Combustion, when fighting a pack of Gunners or Shotgunners, very often you end up killing a few of them only to watch the rest die from Soulblaze before you turn to shoot them even, which also helps with ammo conservation. Same thing also happens with dog hordes.
Is the wording on surety of arms incorrect? The description doesn't seem to imply that the reload speed increase is based on your mag, just that it gives you more perils the emptier the mag is. Is it spaghetti code or misinterpretation?
The gun Psyker was one of my favorite builds, but after they overhauled the psyker’s tree, I couldn’t figure out how to rebuild it. This gives me hope that my long lost build still exists! Thanks!
The variant with blaze greatsword benefits from the extra movement in SG Otherwise really fun build -> its fun with the vraks or even the burst vigilant. I've played it slightly different with the double barrel, bolt pistol and revolver too. But those are noticeably weaker.
My own Gunpsyker build was only marginally different, but I built this one an hour ago and played a game with it. It fucking slaps. Now only need more ammo. :D
At this point I can hear my irl friends ranting about how OP the Dueling Sword is on other classes and split with you're opinions on it the other half of the time
Another reason for using brain burst on this build of you are using the cruel fortune disrupt destiny node , brain burst kills always count as weakspot kills so they give you the 3 stacks.
Tanner let me ask you a serious question about these build videos: what is the game mode you aim for? Are you running havoc 40 exclusively now like we used to run auric maelstrom almost exclusively? Because all the psykanium footage is borderline useless now - or so it seems. I see guns cooking shooters with ease in the psykanium but in actual havoc 35+ games the results are completely different. Without remotely reliable breakpoints a lot of this information just falls flat in my experience. I mean, you cleared 40 with a full group stressing over seconds to get books off, yet both this and the staff build recently have no bubble (which I never use anyway) but does seem still way worth the loss of damage for sheer team utility. Are you posting builds that are intended to walk through auric maelstrom or do you consider these viable joining randoms in 35+? What mode are these builds for? And one other question I can’t find a way to test personally… does empathic evasion just not work sometimes? I’ll die to gunners in 35+ havoc suddenly while in the middle of a volley from the recon lasgun or staff, hitting crits multiple times per second, yet still taking gunner damage. Have you noticed this at all?
Basically just run the same skill tree with Kinetic Deflection instead and melee more instead of shooting. Take your melee of choice, but the duelling sword is still your best option. You can also run the bolt pistol or revolver if you want to quickly take out specialists while focusing on melee.
Tanner I absolutely love your guides, they're well made, and I love the way you explain thing with your "zero filter and THAT is facts for the best build and that's it" attitude. You've given me appetite to reinstall the game when I finded it stale, you've given me reason to play it when I wanted not to, you're amazing, and you're the only youtuber that mater for darktide for me => but come on man you ONLY talk about gunpsyker and flame psyker, I know they're meta but didn't you say you loved having fun with assail sometimes? Couldn't you do a video about how to "make other build works" even if they relatively suck massive ass compared to the other two ? Still waiting for a video about the voidstrike staff, the force sword and the likes, I mean I'm sure with enough skill and not going duo but with four people, as the game is intended, you could make anything work no ? Isn't that the whole point of "true duo" ? that with a party of four "any build can make it to auric maelstrom" ? I think with more than 4 hours of content of you talking about "meta builds at the highest level" (and I've personnely watched it all more than twice) "we got it" ... I don't want a subpar build barely optimised by mister E => I want a subpar build that's optimised to the max by YOU, explained by you, so that the ONLY thing that suck about the build is my skill and me "not taking flame staff or gunpsyker" with love
so what's up with the cdr vs crit chance aura? I assume it's both so necessary that you failed to mention it, and that the reason is because scriers gaze uptime is more important than the remaining 20% chance to not crit being reduced by a quarter. But rending strikes taught me to not trust people without a reason given.
@@vinsenf1545 yeah auras do not stack. it's still not a waste to do the same build if it's efficient, you don't have 100% coherency efficiency, or your duplicate aura holder dies.
You probably don't need both Warp Expenditure and Quietude. Since Warp Expenditure generates half the toughness of Quietude and since it is easier to build peril than it is to quell it you could drop Warp Expenditure for something else.
You will generate 0 to 100% toughness after like 20 seconds in gaze which is 25% total toughness so in one gaze pop you will generate about 50 to 60% toughness off it so it's ALOT to give up
@@TannerLindberg It takes Gaze 12 seconds to generate 100 Peril with absolutely no quelling done this is 25 toughness in 12 seconds from Warp Expenditure, disrupt destiny is 20 toughness over 4 seconds. At 24 seconds gaze will have generated around 600 peril which is 150 toughness in 24 seconds that means Quietude will have generated 300 toughness. Most of your toughness from Expenditure will be generated after using Gaze for 12 seconds before that it is barely a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of toughness generated by the other 3 perks. In the first 12 seconds of Gaze most of your toughness generated will be from crits. DD is 5 Toughness a second Quietude is about 4 Toughness a second and Expenditure is about 2 Toughness a second after 12 seconds in Gaze DD is still Generating 5 per second Expenditure is now 12.5 per second and Quietude is a whopping 25 per second It is important to note that the numbers are probably worse since the amount of peril per second that Gaze generates grows at an exponential rate so most of the peril generated will be in the last few seconds of Gaze's duration. also the numbers given aren't 100% accurate but they should be close enough (I am not counting the frames for an exact time).
Also because you are taking Perilous Combustion, Souldrinker is an option to take for 5 toughness and 5 crit chance for 5 seconds anytime you kill a enemy afflicted by Soulblaze or Kinetic Flayer to help save on a bit of ammo.
funnily enough, my guess at what a gun psyker build would look like wasn't that far off. a couple of the nodes were incorrect but it was overall close. you mention uncanny strike being a bad blessing, but you have it on your dueling sword anyways - is it for flak trash clear?
You can use the buff from Uncanny Strike on your other weapon, as you are able to Proc Soul Blaze and Fire DOTs, uncanny massively buff the damage from both DOTs you apply.
For the love of fuck, make a force greatsword build video. That build probably won't be as ridiculously broken as this one or purge staff, but I'm very interested to see just how insane you can get with it
Thanks for sharing this build, while i don't like playing gun psyker myself since i think they are too boring and if i wanted to play with guns there's a class for that. I love that you can do something like this with the psyker. i'm Just not sure about the the insinuation about Psyker not being squishy or weak in some aspecsts, your build is far from the norm and most people who are not playing this game like they are carrying in a moba will prob follow into the common psyker builds being fairly squishy, using the staffs and actually being pretty balanced in melee. Hopefully fatshark understands that the solution is not nerfing the gun Psyker but actually buffing the staffs and giving them more interactions with the warp builds and the talents.
cleave damage on the weapon mod? afaik cleave damage also affects the first target damage, and even if it doesn't, the potential to OHK 2 targets with the sword's light attack is great. also, gun psyker doesn't need more mobility and the dueling sword is a light weapon
Gun psyker is unfortunately not overly strong, psyker staff builds are much more versatile + veteran las gun build is just flat out better due to bonuses
Seriously, after watching this, your conclusion is that GunPsyker is not that strong? Lmao, great joke! This build is absolutely broken. Yes, staves are ridiculously strong as well but not like this.
The build is shown in the first 60 seconds AND is linked in the pin comment that you had to scroll past to type this. You are a worthless summer ant not fit to be called human
darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9db85595-927d-4fb5-9844-2e40a7b53598
What knife build would you take with this? Blessings, refinements, marks?
Basically the same Blessings, but as Thrust is unavailable I believe, then take Precognition. You don't need Repost due to Crazy Crit chance already with the Ult. @@davidachstin3588
@@davidachstin3588 Flesh tearer + Uncanny strike/riposte, crit chance + unyielding (i don't know if there is a meaningful breakpoint for flak/carapace/maniac or not), mark personal preference both are fine.
The author of the GunPsykernomicon himself hath returned.
Been using it since I created my psyker, this new build is wild though. Can’t wait to try it out!
It's simple we uh nerf the zealot
no, we nerf ogryn
@@michaelkolano8686 This is how fatshark devs think.
suddenly glad they ignore vet.
did they nerf zealot ? or is this just fatshark dev brain personified in a comment ?
fatshark dev brain
23:00 The sheer number of people insisting the Duelling Sword was balanced on Psyker clearly indicates how few people have ever used Disrupt Destiny or Scrier's Gaze.
I honestly think farshark should take away dueling sword from a psyker now that they gave it to vet and zealot, psyker's still got powerful melee
@@simoncorn1151 Oh sure, and then they should just give plasma guns and power swords to psykers. It was a psyker's weapon to begin with. That makes no sense.
i was one of them lol, I never played dd/sg until recently-ish and went "ohhhh, I get it now"
By crack of bone goes really hard with the force greatsword too, because it's so easy to just chop heads with it to proc it several times with each sweep
Stupid schriers gaze uptime IME but I’m not sure how much I like the force swing when the weapon is already good at horde clear without it, feels redundant most of the time but maybe it’s cuz I’m still climbing to damnation
Please Tanner give us a breakdown on some ogryn builds and weapons
he wont because to be fair, there is not that much substance there
He doesnt play ogryn
He already gave his most honest opinion on Ogryn. I’d say he’d go completely schizo if he talks about Ogryn again. Like the guy basically gave the best melee Ogryn build while not even being an Ogryn main. The builds still the same, it’s just worse now due to the talent tree change.
Well Ogryn now has new weapons both ranged and melee weapons and I’m looking for the most min maxed build for havoc 40 and only tanner has the kinda autism it takes to figure out every single minute detail
Doubt he will do that, he likes going full autism on power trips while playing broken builds (nothing wrong with that btw). Pretty hard to even reach close to that with ogryns nowdays.
Counter argument for warp speed. Being able to manually activate a movement speed buff can help you get into a better potion/out of a bad one/get into range of a unit if your swording it up. I won't accept it as bad. But you can play with it or play around not having it like many other nodes.
Eh its a pretty wasted node tbh
I appreciate how much thought you have put in this build loving using it.
Can’t wait to share this with my girlfriend!
I also can't wait to share it with this guys girlfriend
I also can't wait to share this person's girlfriend!
@ rofl
Tanner is an unstoppable exemplar of Darktide content.
I thought we were already doing insane things with the purge staff build (which I constantly play with whenever I play with my psyker, it's so much fun and "See those hordes ? Me neither"). And then Tanner came back with so much more violence. For our greatest pleasure.
been playing this build and its so fun dude, amazing work man!
-gun- zealot psyker is really fun to play. I have been running a similar build for a while, but I had not considered true aim getting wasted. One skill point saved I suppose, thanks.
Something I've also noticed with Perilous Combustion, when fighting a pack of Gunners or Shotgunners, very often you end up killing a few of them only to watch the rest die from Soulblaze before you turn to shoot them even, which also helps with ammo conservation. Same thing also happens with dog hordes.
Heyy Tanner thanks for all the great work you’re putting in, all of your guides are helping me immensily! Looking forward to your content everyday 🎉
Mister E be like “this build is actually terribly because it was too difficult selecting nodes in the talent tree”
Is the wording on surety of arms incorrect? The description doesn't seem to imply that the reload speed increase is based on your mag, just that it gives you more perils the emptier the mag is. Is it spaghetti code or misinterpretation?
I haven't noticed an increase in reload speed either
Love gun psyker! Gonna give this exact build a go tonight 🔥
This definitely improved my gunpsyker builds. Good stuff.
Wish you had time stamps but appreciate the video.
The gun Psyker was one of my favorite builds, but after they overhauled the psyker’s tree, I couldn’t figure out how to rebuild it. This gives me hope that my long lost build still exists! Thanks!
You could literally do the same build as before, no changes if you weren't sure what to do
@ it was more that I didn’t have the specific talents memorized.
imagine a dueling sword for the ogryn. Just a bigass toothpick
Sharp tree trunk
Or a straight up guts buster sword. Big hunk of metal. CLANG
The variant with blaze greatsword benefits from the extra movement in SG
Otherwise really fun build -> its fun with the vraks or even the burst vigilant.
I've played it slightly different with the double barrel, bolt pistol and revolver too. But those are noticeably weaker.
what would u use on gs with this build
@@midnightmoron1906 because greatsword is fun, and enough
@@yargolocus4853 i am asking about blessings and perks
My own Gunpsyker build was only marginally different, but I built this one an hour ago and played a game with it. It fucking slaps. Now only need more ammo. :D
This build is pretty awesome. Its like a fire saw.
At this point I can hear my irl friends ranting about how OP the Dueling Sword is on other classes and split with you're opinions on it the other half of the time
Even with a Shredder Autopistol and an Ilisi Force Sword Scrier's Gaze psykers top charts
I go ham for using the Force Greatsword on the Scriers Gaze + DD Gun Psyker build it works so well when having to switch between Melee and Ranged
Another reason for using brain burst on this build of you are using the cruel fortune disrupt destiny node , brain burst kills always count as weakspot kills so they give you the 3 stacks.
Tanner let me ask you a serious question about these build videos: what is the game mode you aim for? Are you running havoc 40 exclusively now like we used to run auric maelstrom almost exclusively? Because all the psykanium footage is borderline useless now - or so it seems. I see guns cooking shooters with ease in the psykanium but in actual havoc 35+ games the results are completely different. Without remotely reliable breakpoints a lot of this information just falls flat in my experience. I mean, you cleared 40 with a full group stressing over seconds to get books off, yet both this and the staff build recently have no bubble (which I never use anyway) but does seem still way worth the loss of damage for sheer team utility.
Are you posting builds that are intended to walk through auric maelstrom or do you consider these viable joining randoms in 35+?
What mode are these builds for?
And one other question I can’t find a way to test personally… does empathic evasion just not work sometimes? I’ll die to gunners in 35+ havoc suddenly while in the middle of a volley from the recon lasgun or staff, hitting crits multiple times per second, yet still taking gunner damage. Have you noticed this at all?
Man i love by crack of bone and lightning speed makes melee on gun psyker sooo much better
I suck at psyker, but this build looks really fun. Thank you for sharing!
Can i use the greatsword? I was wondering if it was good and if it hurts the gun psyker at all
thanks for sharing, I really enjoy the gun psyker so this will be a treat to try
Do you think the smite subnodes might hit some breakpoints in havoc?
This looks insane, I gotta try it out
What blessings should I consider for the Blaze Force Greatsword?
Following this!
Precog and Riposte probably, it does have finesse and your gonna constantly be dodging while fighting a horde
Havoc, Wrath and Riposte, Normal Missions Precog Riposte
@@halouwuthank you!
@@johnchristensen538thank you!
We need proper relic blades builds for zealot and psyker
assail with the new cleave perk is pretty nice, not relevant to this build but worth checking out
how bout a build for those that just wanna play magic zealot?
Basically just run the same skill tree with Kinetic Deflection instead and melee more instead of shooting. Take your melee of choice, but the duelling sword is still your best option. You can also run the bolt pistol or revolver if you want to quickly take out specialists while focusing on melee.
Tanner I absolutely love your guides, they're well made, and I love the way you explain thing with your "zero filter and THAT is facts for the best build and that's it" attitude. You've given me appetite to reinstall the game when I finded it stale, you've given me reason to play it when I wanted not to, you're amazing, and you're the only youtuber that mater for darktide for me => but come on man you ONLY talk about gunpsyker and flame psyker, I know they're meta but didn't you say you loved having fun with assail sometimes? Couldn't you do a video about how to "make other build works" even if they relatively suck massive ass compared to the other two ? Still waiting for a video about the voidstrike staff, the force sword and the likes, I mean I'm sure with enough skill and not going duo but with four people, as the game is intended, you could make anything work no ? Isn't that the whole point of "true duo" ? that with a party of four "any build can make it to auric maelstrom" ? I think with more than 4 hours of content of you talking about "meta builds at the highest level" (and I've personnely watched it all more than twice) "we got it" ... I don't want a subpar build barely optimised by mister E => I want a subpar build that's optimised to the max by YOU, explained by you, so that the ONLY thing that suck about the build is my skill and me "not taking flame staff or gunpsyker"
with love
This is fun to use bro thank you
How did you get red weapons?
Hell yeah, I always loved gun psyker
How is your gear red
so what's up with the cdr vs crit chance aura? I assume it's both so necessary that you failed to mention it, and that the reason is because scriers gaze uptime is more important than the remaining 20% chance to not crit being reduced by a quarter. But rending strikes taught me to not trust people without a reason given.
CDR Aura means more Ults for the entire team, far more valuable.
CDR aura if you are the only psyker, crit chance aura if you have another psyker with cdr aura. Same aura does not stack right?
@@vinsenf1545 yeah auras do not stack. it's still not a waste to do the same build if it's efficient, you don't have 100% coherency efficiency, or your duplicate aura holder dies.
when did the recongun got buff and what buff is it?
You probably don't need both Warp Expenditure and Quietude. Since Warp Expenditure generates half the toughness of Quietude and since it is easier to build peril than it is to quell it you could drop Warp Expenditure for something else.
Nah gaze is not a normal build. It's extremly valuable here also there isn't any better use of a single skill point
You will generate 0 to 100% toughness after like 20 seconds in gaze which is 25% total toughness so in one gaze pop you will generate about 50 to 60% toughness off it so it's ALOT to give up
@@TannerLindberg It takes Gaze 12 seconds to generate 100 Peril with absolutely no quelling done this is 25 toughness in 12 seconds from Warp Expenditure, disrupt destiny is 20 toughness over 4 seconds.
At 24 seconds gaze will have generated around 600 peril which is 150 toughness in 24 seconds that means Quietude will have generated 300 toughness.
Most of your toughness from Expenditure will be generated after using Gaze for 12 seconds before that it is barely a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of toughness generated by the other 3 perks.
In the first 12 seconds of Gaze most of your toughness generated will be from crits.
DD is 5 Toughness a second
Quietude is about 4 Toughness a second
and Expenditure is about 2 Toughness a second
after 12 seconds in Gaze
DD is still Generating 5 per second
Expenditure is now 12.5 per second
and Quietude is a whopping 25 per second
It is important to note that the numbers are probably worse since the amount of peril per second that Gaze generates grows at an exponential rate so most of the peril generated will be in the last few seconds of Gaze's duration.
also the numbers given aren't 100% accurate but they should be close enough (I am not counting the frames for an exact time).
Also because you are taking Perilous Combustion, Souldrinker is an option to take for 5 toughness and 5 crit chance for 5 seconds anytime you kill a enemy afflicted by Soulblaze or Kinetic Flayer to help save on a bit of ammo.
I feel like it would be more since your constantly quelling and gaining peril. Once you hold gaze for like 20 it starts ticking up ridiculously fast.
Recon lazgun doesn’t have the pew pew or even the boom boom, it’s more of a pibbbb. So not as desirable for me.
I don’t make this up, it’s a curse.
funnily enough, my guess at what a gun psyker build would look like wasn't that far off. a couple of the nodes were incorrect but it was overall close.
you mention uncanny strike being a bad blessing, but you have it on your dueling sword anyways - is it for flak trash clear?
Its really needed here for this
You can use the buff from Uncanny Strike on your other weapon, as you are able to Proc Soul Blaze and Fire DOTs, uncanny massively buff the damage from both DOTs you apply.
Thanks for dropping ❤❤❤
Holy shit, disrupt destiny works in the meat grinder now? Is it a mod?
But Tanner I have been always using kinetic since beta and I am a psyker one trick. I can’t stamina manage!!!
For the love of fuck, make a force greatsword build video. That build probably won't be as ridiculously broken as this one or purge staff, but I'm very interested to see just how insane you can get with it
I love u tanner
dueling sword has too much finesse damage
Thanks for sharing this build, while i don't like playing gun psyker myself since i think they are too boring and if i wanted to play with guns there's a class for that.
I love that you can do something like this with the psyker.
i'm Just not sure about the the insinuation about Psyker not being squishy or weak in some aspecsts, your build is far from the norm and most people who are not playing this game like they are carrying in a moba will prob follow into the common psyker builds being fairly squishy, using the staffs and actually being pretty balanced in melee. Hopefully fatshark understands that the solution is not nerfing the gun Psyker but actually buffing the staffs and giving them more interactions with the warp builds and the talents.
Why uncanny strike rather than Thrust blessing for DS? Also why isn't cleave damage the dump stat?
What.... it has thrust? And cleave is explained pretty well
cleave damage on the weapon mod?
afaik cleave damage also affects the first target damage, and even if it doesn't, the potential to OHK 2 targets with the sword's light attack is great.
also, gun psyker doesn't need more mobility and the dueling sword is a light weapon
@@TannerLindberg Sorry I meant Agile
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Gun psyker is unfortunately not overly strong, psyker staff builds are much more versatile + veteran las gun build is just flat out better due to bonuses
Seriously, after watching this, your conclusion is that GunPsyker is not that strong? Lmao, great joke! This build is absolutely broken. Yes, staves are ridiculously strong as well but not like this.
@Redditor6079 it's "broken" until you encounter hordes of buffed elites and suddenly you are too niche to deal with that
Thats not true at all. The new melee nodes give gun psi amazing horde clear
If yoy want the best melee horde clear in the game use new great sword on gun psi with the cleave node and WOW it's like power sword levels of good
It depends on you build it. If you are super min-maxing like this it’s obviously really good.
Personally, I don’t like using the Recon Laz gun.
Just show the build deam it idc about YOUR YAPPING
The build is shown in the first 60 seconds AND is linked in the pin comment that you had to scroll past to type this.
You are a worthless summer ant not fit to be called human
@@TannerLindberg the summer ant insult will be LTG's legacy