As being a Bolton man and grew up in Little Lever and born In Fanworth (same hospital as both Peter and Paddy) and knowing the club and areas they film, I even seen some filming of this great show, I can relate very well to everything Peter did in this entire show. I thank you Taffe for having this here on YT as not many have these full episodes and Peter just recently created a new TY channel himself but he only has bits of shows on, he did I guess have the others taken down who played full episodes. You my friend do however place credits and do such a good professional job in showing these episode and all Peter Kay things.
One nice touch I only just noticed on this rewatch - in this episode Potters flower vase/makeshift pint glass is black. It's charred from the Phoenix Club burning down in Season 1, when the flower vase was clear glass!
A random fact a few years ago it was reported there was a fire at Ted Robbins (Den Perry) home when the tumble dryer caught fire in the basement and the fire services had to attend. At the time certain makes of tumble dryers had been recalled, repaired or had to be replaced by the manufacturer... so at least he wasn't responsible for that one!
I would've also liked to have seen Jerry perform Gangsters Paradise! I do know in the last episode, there is a scene where he does perform a rap song, I won't tell which one!
did you notice their phoenix club t-shirts in the first few scenes had phoenix spelled wrong as pheonix! it's wee understated touches like that that make this series so cool.
The interesting thing watching all the episodes back-to-back is the way the comedy went from really naturalistic and almost verite-style in the first episode to being much broader and sillier in later ones. The same thing happened to the other great working class UK sitcom of the same era, The Royle Family.
The eleven plus exam was around in the 70s and before and decided whether you went to grammar school or normal school if you didn’t pass it, basically an iq test
Are you aware of Dave Spikey's (Jerry) series "Dead Man Weds*"? It's about a local newspaper in a village with a large chemical plant where strange things might be afoot. He wrote and starred in it, alongside Johnny Vegas. You'd have a hard time locating it; as far as I know, it's never been repeated. But I think you would like it. *The title is lifted from an advertising board for a local newspaper Spikey once saw, which bore the ambiguous slogan 'Dead Man Weds'; did he die on a Wednesday or get married post mortem....?!
The representation of Asian people is definitely borderline, but for what it's worth I don't think Kenny Jr's fake tan would be interpreted as a black-face joke. I don't know if fake tan is common in the USA but it's kind of stereotypical of many Northern English towns such as where this is set to see women walking around with faces that colour, especially in the early 2000s. It's far-fetched but more towards what people would recognise to be 'too much fake-tan' as opposed to what people would recognise as black-face.
I'm probably going out on a limb here, but is the East Asian woman at 24:08 the same actor/actress who features in the video of You Showed Me by Lightning Seeds from the mid-90s? (question addressed to anyone who knows or cares about these things)
please please do max and paddy;s road to nowhere (a phoentix nights spin-off thats argubably better than phoenix nights) after the final 2 episodes please!
It's reflective of a specific cultural attitude... It's also played as ignorant, just as the characters are. Personally, it doesn't bother me; and i'm hoping it doesn't suffer the same fate as Fawlty Towers, or the I.T. Crowd.
@@kmcarchive8288 i'm not so sure it is played as ignorant, considering the prison shower scene in Max & Paddy. That trope is an age old racist and homophobic one. I can't say the R word because it seems to be getting my comments auto removed.
@@ChavvyCommunist, No, don't get me wrong; I totally agree about M&P, especially the prison scenes, since the stereotyping was so overbearing... Phoenix Nights, however, was tempered with better writers and kept things a little more realistic... Remember, this is clubland in the north of England... Bernard Manning was still the epitome of entertainment in such places... The Half a Shilling episode gave a good example of the type of act that was booked back then, and was also indicative of the sheer ignorance of the club itself as to what they were booking. Personally, I think this episode is quite mild compared to some of the grossly offensive things you would have come across in a genuine northern working man's club in the late 90's... That's all I'm saying.
@@kmcarchive8288 Fair dos. I was only 5 when the 90's ended, so I wouldn't know lmao. But yeah, I agree the level of racism in PN is genuinely debatable. Personally I'd like to hear how East Asian folk feel about it, since they're personally affected.
It’s as Taffe says, Ep. 10 is probably the one that has aged the worst and is very much a product of its time. Episode 11 still has some of the Chinese chef stuff, Episode 12 is the best in the series and has aged extremely well.
As being a Bolton man and grew up in Little Lever and born In Fanworth (same hospital as both Peter and Paddy) and knowing the club and areas they film, I even seen some filming of this great show, I can relate very well to everything Peter did in this entire show. I thank you Taffe for having this here on YT as not many have these full episodes and Peter just recently created a new TY channel himself but he only has bits of shows on, he did I guess have the others taken down who played full episodes. You my friend do however place credits and do such a good professional job in showing these episode and all Peter Kay things.
After a rubbish day at work, this new post is a huge help!
Exactly the same feeling... was hoping for something to make me laugh on YT
"I'll name that tune in one" hahaha 13:51
One nice touch I only just noticed on this rewatch - in this episode Potters flower vase/makeshift pint glass is black. It's charred from the Phoenix Club burning down in Season 1, when the flower vase was clear glass!
A random fact a few years ago it was reported there was a fire at Ted Robbins (Den Perry) home when the tumble dryer caught fire in the basement and the fire services had to attend. At the time certain makes of tumble dryers had been recalled, repaired or had to be replaced by the manufacturer... so at least he wasn't responsible for that one!
I have that singing bear lol. It comes out every Christmas 🎄
The drugs don’t work is a good song! It was only a few years old when this was made.
Great work mate, your commentary is low key but very amusing. Great to see you get more and more into as the series goes by.
I would've also liked to have seen Jerry perform Gangsters Paradise! I do know in the last episode, there is a scene where he does perform a rap song, I won't tell which one!
did you notice their phoenix club t-shirts in the first few scenes had phoenix spelled wrong as pheonix! it's wee understated touches like that that make this series so cool.
@@experi-mentalproductions5358
I really didn't expect to see you here 😅🐢
He’s 8 miles high this lad, he’s gansta tripping!
I can do what we like it's your club
The gypsy kings are at the quiz lol
My favourite. Jerry going mad is one of the funniest things to be put to film. Love him. ❤
The interesting thing watching all the episodes back-to-back is the way the comedy went from really naturalistic and almost verite-style in the first episode to being much broader and sillier in later ones. The same thing happened to the other great working class UK sitcom of the same era, The Royle Family.
The eleven plus exam was around in the 70s and before and decided whether you went to grammar school or normal school if you didn’t pass it, basically an iq test
3:20 the railway joke 😂😂😂😂
4:00 Noah I see you've got Brian Potter's drinking glass!
Are you aware of Dave Spikey's (Jerry) series "Dead Man Weds*"? It's about a local newspaper in a village with a large chemical plant where strange things might be afoot. He wrote and starred in it, alongside Johnny Vegas. You'd have a hard time locating it; as far as I know, it's never been repeated. But I think you would like it.
*The title is lifted from an advertising board for a local newspaper Spikey once saw, which bore the ambiguous slogan 'Dead Man Weds'; did he die on a Wednesday or get married post mortem....?!
This it? ua-cam.com/video/Oa7MPyD0GQI/v-deo.html
@@taffe316 It is indeed!
Black and Blue balls hit with a mallet..I think that might be Croquet.
Oh mate that opening music is so friggin cheesy.. i luv it
He was wearing the dark fake tan to over the tiger that’s on his face.
Thanks for these :) ❤
Mongey mate Max always makes me laugh
My favourite audition lol
The representation of Asian people is definitely borderline, but for what it's worth I don't think Kenny Jr's fake tan would be interpreted as a black-face joke. I don't know if fake tan is common in the USA but it's kind of stereotypical of many Northern English towns such as where this is set to see women walking around with faces that colour, especially in the early 2000s. It's far-fetched but more towards what people would recognise to be 'too much fake-tan' as opposed to what people would recognise as black-face.
I mean lets face it, everyone looks awful in Phoenix Nights.
I've never heard anyone complain about it being a black face joke.
So what if it is. Sick of people getting offended by absolutely everything. Idiots.
theres a lot of english refrences your missing, but clearly youre still enjoying it
In reality the only winner in this episode was Paddy 😂
M&P's road to nowhere is alright it's good it's not as good phoenix's nights right enough
I'm probably going out on a limb here, but is the East Asian woman at 24:08 the same actor/actress who features in the video of You Showed Me by Lightning Seeds from the mid-90s? (question addressed to anyone who knows or cares about these things)
24:16
It looks like it’s peeing on ya mate! 😂
I know you're doing Max And Paddy after this but I'd love for you to watch That Peter Kay Thing (the episodes you've not seen yet)
The service station episode is great, I think it was the pilot episode ironically for a season of pilot episodes
Same!
@@sampark17 I would like to see the services as well
@@Grandmastergav86
He's seen that one but yeah it's great
please please do max and paddy;s road to nowhere (a phoentix nights spin-off thats argubably better than phoenix nights) after the final 2 episodes please!
Who dislikes?
I’m still waiting for you react to Brian potter singing 500 miles
Let the madness commence
Also do you do requests on patreon? 15 stories high would be good
The face paint is car paint!
Well interesting
14:59
21:50 ROFL!!!
Where’s Shere Khan 😂😂😂😂
buddy holly
Alcohol free!
Love it 😀
The racism and queerphobia in Phoenix Nights generally hasn't aged good tbh, but I still love it despite those things.
I'm in the same boat my friend!
It's reflective of a specific cultural attitude... It's also played as ignorant, just as the characters are. Personally, it doesn't bother me; and i'm hoping it doesn't suffer the same fate as Fawlty Towers, or the I.T. Crowd.
@@kmcarchive8288 i'm not so sure it is played as ignorant, considering the prison shower scene in Max & Paddy. That trope is an age old racist and homophobic one. I can't say the R word because it seems to be getting my comments auto removed.
@@ChavvyCommunist, No, don't get me wrong; I totally agree about M&P, especially the prison scenes, since the stereotyping was so overbearing... Phoenix Nights, however, was tempered with better writers and kept things a little more realistic... Remember, this is clubland in the north of England... Bernard Manning was still the epitome of entertainment in such places... The Half a Shilling episode gave a good example of the type of act that was booked back then, and was also indicative of the sheer ignorance of the club itself as to what they were booking. Personally, I think this episode is quite mild compared to some of the grossly offensive things you would have come across in a genuine northern working man's club in the late 90's... That's all I'm saying.
@@kmcarchive8288 Fair dos. I was only 5 when the 90's ended, so I wouldn't know lmao.
But yeah, I agree the level of racism in PN is genuinely debatable. Personally I'd like to hear how East Asian folk feel about it, since they're personally affected.
Episode 9 was pretty weak I thought and the Asian chef unpleasantness was... unpleasant. For me anyway.
Hope this an improvement
The series is 20 years old. So there will be some stereotypical differences.
It’s as Taffe says, Ep. 10 is probably the one that has aged the worst and is very much a product of its time. Episode 11 still has some of the Chinese chef stuff, Episode 12 is the best in the series and has aged extremely well.
@@Landie_Man true but the early 2000s isn't THAT long ago, I remembered thinking it was a bit rum at the time
@@scpjack7856 I think by 2002 when this was made, the views were pretty aged. Probably borderline.
@@jageiosjgaeiojg that’s what I mean. It’s fairly recent.