Muslim Student Loses Case Against School Prayer Ban “Common Sense Has Prevailed”
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- Опубліковано 15 кві 2024
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Going to a secular school then tries to turn it into a Muslim school 🏫 that should be the story 🙄
When I went to school we had RE, religious education, did they have RE at the school.
@ the RE commentator: RE is different from actually demanding the school permit and then resource prayers for ONE specific group. I’m glad sense prevailed here. Wanna pray? Pray in your mind or go and pray in a dedicated centre, not in a secular school.
Secularism means allowing people to practice their beliefs
School ban prayer but accept LGBTQ 😂😂😂😂....what a moron
Secular school that takes Easter and Christmas holidays. I won't what those specific weeks are for.
That Muslim student should leave and let others get on.
😂😂
Try telling that to the Militant left ?
She shouldn't be allowed to continue her education at the school .
Her and the mother sound like trouble.
So glad justice has finally prevailed, let this be the start.
Ban the burqa , Mosques etc, this is a CHRISTIAN country
@@Annah-ek3rqthey will never ban them unfortunately.. we can make them leave though.
@MDM1992 I don't see why not , the Burqa was worn in middle east countries , men want their women covered up.
THIS IS BRITIAN , NOT THE MIDDLE EAST.
BAN THE BURQA.
If they don't respect our way of life , move on to a Muslim country and live .
SIMPLE
They think they are "ENTITLED" to whatever they want.
If I went to Pakistan, I would need to "fit in " not go demanding what I WANT
Finally some common sense. Deport those who won't obey the rules
Islam
@@dianeirvine7624
Yeah, ofc... The religion of peace...bullying the school to spend a ton of time, and £, on a court case.
Can’t always be deport
1.I wonder why in muslim country they allow Christian and other religion?
2. Why Christian allow church to accept LGBTQ+++?? Just asking
@@CobraFordBut they should.
The kid should go to a Muslim school 🇬🇧🇬🇧Britain is not a Muslim country
How pathetic being allowed to take this to court . If you don’t like it shop off back to another country
well said. the student already knew this before going to the school.
Oh no can't do that got to turn the country to Islam, dreadful state of affairs.
There's a Muslim leader who spoke on 5live who called it discrimination and virtually said that as the school is in a mainly Muslim part of London it will happen
@@janeoxley4829 👍
Love this shop off back to another country😂😂
I hope the legal costs need to be paid by the student’s parents.
Yes they should.
What do you think
You can bet the British taxpayers are paying the legal bill.
Legal Aid. This is why she used her daughter. She is underage and can claim legal aid. All paid by us. Clever.
@@seontan7848 More 'parasitical'/'feral' than 'clever'
the absolute arrogance and cheek of these people, if you want group islamic prayer time in your school, pi55 off and live in an islamic country.
VERY GLAD TO SEE WE PREVAILED HERE.
The problem is they will try again and again until Shariah is implemented.
And they'll fail, just like they've been failing for the past 1400 years.
There are probably 20000 outside the gates right now, chanting death threats with the police on one knee apologising.
@@onlyme8117
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It already is. Go to Bradfors or Birmingham. Its there and in full effect. Maningham in Bradford have islamic morality police even acosting none muslim (the remaining 2)
Banning smoking in public spaces is understandable but banning smoking is just plain stupidity
Be prepared for the school being besieged and staff being threatened by the "peaceful people"..
probably shouldn't have been sticking your noses in the middle east or went around colonising the world then? don't cry now that your country is the victim of a so called "invasion". take what you get.
It already has been!
You mean Islamists
Reminds of the case where a mother had to apologise on behalf of her son in front of media to muslim fundamentalists for insulting quran. In the UK.
@@Ducktilitywell how about this stuff the Quran and all who believe it, don’t get me started on how disgusting their prophet is!!!!
Respect to this headteacher.
Well done Catherine Birbalsingh
Totally courageous - we need more standing up to these things.
(Pref by 'our' police - but in their absence whilst they still take our money) - individuals have to do their job as often as appropriate (so very often) like this woman.
Unfortunately certain threats mitigate our efforts - ofc.
Birbalsingh doesnt sound British
@@rickkarsan4491so?
KEK the only person with balls is a non brit
She's an absolute hero sticking to her guns like that. What a woman!
Thank goodness.
So glad Miss Birbalsingh has won her case.
So sorry she had to put up with this especially when she had been clear from the start.
Well done.
Continue your success at your school.
Hope other schools follow your lead.
insanity that it goes to court, if your non muslim you would get laughed at and told to grow up
What a brilliant outcome for the school, common sense has prevailed, congratulations to the head teacher and hopefully this will send a message to those who want to change our culture, laws and way of life.
Finally the liberal judiciary are waking up to this madness.
Don't give in to the people of Islam
Come on idiot 😊
You won't have a choice, soon enough...
Is it a religious issue or a desire for power? Well done to Catherine for standing up to them
It's for power, 100%. No other ethnic minority makes such a play to get a representative on every council like they do.
@@GailPlatt It’s the “militant left” in action ?
@@GailPlattit’s the left?
@@GailPlatt "No other ethnic minority" Islam is not an ethnic minority. it is a religion. Although I know of an ethnic minority that makes very much a play to get representation and control.. hmmm...
@@anaselassal3322 Followers of Islam ARE a minority in this country. They ARE by and large originally from somewhere else ethnically, not here and they are VERY ambitious.
They are not happy to take Britain as they found it they want to mould it to be more in keeping with where they originally came from. Comparatively few Eastern Europeans, Spanish, Portugese, Russians etc who migrated here have that same attitude.
If the NHS got rid of all their Diversity and Inclusion job roles they would also save a fortune to be put to better use for patients. There’s so many ways for them to cut down on waste. Leave people alone.
If the nhs got rid of foreign doctors you wouldn't even be able to run the NHS😹 Because all your children care about is going to the pub and partying rather than contributing to their society 😹
@@TheparotidmemsThe Doctors who can't Speak or Read English, as well as those Staff with Dodgy Documents fro Ukraine, are Costing Millions in Compensation, Due To Negligence. 55,000 Women in The UK from Abroad, have been Subjected to fgm . How much is that going to cost the NHS?
Some Muslim Families have up to 5 Disabled Children, what pressure is that putting on Resources?
@@Theparotidmemsthat just isn't true. A breakdown of nationalities working in the NHS can be found online. Brit NHS workers outnumber foreign born ones by more than 6-1.
@@Madonnalitta1 difference between having a British passport and being actually originally British
When people of a particular cult are in the minority they are obsessed with minority rights (only theirs, obviously), but when they are in the majority there are no minority rights.
Exactly ... i have also been grabbed & groped dozens of times in such countries 😬
Good win for the school! Amazing headteacher 👌👏👏👏
Congrats Catherine 🎉u stood stronge and u r such a bold woman..well done. I only wish the people running this country/politicians... learn from ur boldness...
The smoking ban is very concerning if you are a smoker or not. If they are doing it for health reasons, how long before alcohol is banned? How long before many foods are banned because we have too many overweight people. Beware they are coming for you until they have total control of your lives
All for the smoking ban. No nutrient value in fags just dangerous chemicals. Ultimate irony was husband in hospital 40 years ago trying to recover from serious lung disease and patient in next bed chain smoking after pacemaker fitted.
My husband had never smoked. I was so angry.
Having seen the actions of many smokers first hand, I have this to say, if it is completely banned then it is a great positive.
They're banning it for people born after 2009. It's not like they're taking away smoking from people that already enjoy it.
What's it like living in fear?
It's not gonna pass in long run. Bans on culturally accepted substances will result in black market and gov is better taking juicy taxes over fighting illegal market.
As for food tax, god bless em taxing coca cola, burgers whatever contains high amounts of sugar and fats. Why? Because they kill and decrease living standard of majority far more than smoking or drinking. Instead they should lead campaigns for balanced diet, encourage people to buy smart, grow their own and hit shops with plan on dietary products.
This entitled individual was no doubt tax payer funded. The UK should adopt French policies to control these religious zealots in schools.
I send my congratulations to the Headmistress pity we don’t have more like in this country , sense and sanity returned ,
The pushback has begun! this shouldnt even be news and should of been halted right from the start when the student complained or its parents did!!!
should of been told NO firmly without fear ....
Im glad this has happened so the rest of the spineless folk who bend take notice and stand up and be counted...
Fantastic. Never give in to the bullies !
Never ever
How can ppl want do a pray be a bullie?
Indeed but the fact that this particular British school has 700 muslims, half the overall student total is pretty disturbing! Tories out!
Gonna get worse under labour. Were so screwed.
And Labour will do what they want more in
@@Andrew.-.- it'd scary to think how many they will bring in that's there support base.
They are taking over.
What worries me is that nearly two thirds of them are inbred...The burden on our public health and special needs services is huge
A great day for common sense concerning the school,all that money wasted for something so utterly pointless, should have never been taken to court in the first place.
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We're a Common Law country. We need precedence, this case will provide it.
Yes no case to answer
I think a lot of religious people need reminding in a democracy nobody is obliged to align themselves with any religious beliefs, practices or texts. You do that on your own time. It's not that hard. Especially when in school or at work.
Common sense has prevailed at last!
Go to a muslim school if you want to pray!
Any further intimidation or bullying must be dealt with asap!
Go to a Muslim country would be better
It's not hard to dedicate a small room with a tap to wash themselves, and space for a prayer mat. It's just something that will make students feel more welcome.
@@kingflynxi9420this school has never been about that. Wtf are you on about?? Go somewhere else
@@kingflynxi9420, it's the school policy. No little prayer room. They knew that from the start. Would Islam accommodate a few Catholics who want to say the rosary every day? I don't think so.
@@TheMegahusky would they? Probably not, but it's a nice gesture anyway to make students feel more at ease. What's wrong with that?
When we were students, we went to school for studying, temple for praying, canteen for eating and bedroom for sleeping. Nostalgic days 😊
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So you cant pray if no church?
@@bagustian6816 If church/mosque/temple is there, go there & pray. If there is no church/mosque/temple then pray at home, as God is there everywhere. Do not do photo/video shooting on streets, which will be nuisance for people who do work, earn & eat, unlike the street stuntmen who are eating on taxpayers' money.
@@bagustian6816 And if someone is thinking 24X7 about God and desperate to meet God, then they should leave for heaven immediately. Should not postpone their one-way trip 😊
@@varadharajannadarajah we pray 5 time a day, 1 pray took 5 mint or 7 mint, did that a problem? We live 24 hours, we just do abpray 5-7 mint hahaha, Or you want muslim just pray at sunday? Hahahah
Go to school in a Muslim country simple
Brilliant. Justice has been done. Dont like our values, then get out.
Well said💯💯💯💯
Exactly just one question do they allow Christian student to pray in Muslim country no no no
The health secretary needs to amp down his wok business in hospital. There are not 21 genders, just 2.
"Sexes" is the word you are looking for: there are two sexes.
3.
@@DieFlabbergast2 sexes and 2 genders. Gender is directly related to sex. Individuals identity got nothing to do directly with ones sexuality nor gender.
Keep your cheap d3g3n ideology for yourself.
Smoking in the open air not bothering others should not be banned. Drunks get on everybodys t--ts and can be dangerous n yet nobodys trying to ban it.
@pauleckersley6132, Yes agreed, I made a similar statement earlier.
@pauleckersley6132, alcohol is next.
Exactly, why do people get so fixtated on smokers yet anything else is overlooked.
Wow this is getting too much 😂 telling the British people what we can do what we can do😂😂😂
Muslims have been doing this for years.
Not exactly a new concept. It is called British Law.... been around a lonnnnng time.
Congratulations to Katherine for her courage and strength to stand against those bad faith players. So much respect for her. ❤
Now she needs to go after players behind it ?
We need a few more Katherine's running this great country.
Drug dealers are definitely going to buy and sell tobacco
My Dad is in his 70's when he was a kid he used to buy loose cigarettes from the ice cream man. Stuff like this will go on and prove lucrative for certain people.
Prohibition didn't work in America in the 1920's, it won't work in the UK.
Very unfair as people who should be able to smoke if they want to. What next, no chocolate, no alcohol, etc etc, sounds like totalitarianism.
@@barbaradavies4061 Free the weed
Look at the Toilet paper shops.
I have guys at work who pretend to pray and instead sleep in a room while the rest of us work tirelessly.
😂😂😂
I used to work in a care setting where there were quite a few Muslim workers and as soon as things got really busy they'd disappear to go and pray. Used to piss me off big time!
Let them pray, but they have to work the extra time taken to stop and pray, or deduct pay for work time lost.
Another way forward would be to use a clock in/off system. Every time someone wants a smoke break or prayer break they have to clock out then back in again to resume work. System is automated and adds up hours worked automatically.
I worked in a flexible clocking in/out system and it worked beautifully. Employers didn't lose out and employees were happy to have a little flexibility without loosing pay.
E.G. useful if an employee has a dental appointment, pick up kids etc!
I’m a non smoker but do not support the ban. Although I’ve benefited from the smoking ban in restaurants, bars and the workplace applying an outright ban is against civil liberties. If adults want to smoke that’s their choice.
The issue primarily is passive smoking not the choice to smoke.
@@Pringleloverno, that hasn't been an issue for years, since the smoking ban in public places and private businesses.
@@Madonnalitta1 It has remained an issue since many smokers have disregarded it.
You have your dictators about what we can and can't do yet funnily enough they never look at their own actual failings. Why can we not live and let live and try to be tolerant of each other. Before long we will be left we no choices.
@@Pringleloverlike drinking and driving?
yes! some common sense. things are looking up. we should ban all religion from school, and ban all gender bending teaching in primary schools.
In all schools.
Not teaching children about gender would be disastrous
Apart from Christianity
@@trayreipond5935 including christianity
@@kingflynxi9420Marxism hates Christians and Families, Karl Marx who went Begging to his Father for Money 💰. He left His Wife and Children in Poverty, while Poncing off his Family. Writing about the Poor of Manchester and how He was going to Change The World. He did, he brought Misery, Poverty and Death.
After they are 18 they should be able to do what they want since when does the government make decisions for everything we do
Well to be honest with you, when they turn 16 it’s when they leave school so I believe at 16 they can do as they wish and not allow the government to control them
Bare in mind also, in the Uk 16 years olds can consent, drive, live independently and even smoke and do other few stuff so that’s the right age to be able to make their own decisions
As far as a smoking ban goes, all or nothing! Has he been getting tips from Humza? Dismantling all Islamic infrastructure needs to happen, you won't find a church in Saudi, despite the many Christians living there!
School is a place to learn not to pray if you want to pray go to a mosque.
Will they let the students leave school to go to the nearest mosque?
I am a smoker, and I'm fed up with being blamed for problems with the NHS and now the government hitting us constantly with ridiculous prices, yet there seems to be nothing said about the amount of alcohol related A&E cases, deaths or illness caused by it. It is the biggest risk factor in the UK, yet cheap and accessible everywhere! 😡
Drip... drip... drip... glad someone has pushed back against it!
Lol this means nothing, the student simply agreed to this when joining up hence why she lost, it's in no way a turning of the tide
@@deepseashark5951 It means a lot actually. A legal ruling will stand as a benchmark for anyone else who think praying in the school playground is some sort of god given right.
@flyagaric1607 It won't mean a thing this legal ruling has already been the case in court cases before with religious symbols and private school rules. Also just as prayer was ruled out for this one school it can easily be ruled as compulsory or the right to pray as necessary. So you can jump up and down all you like this isn't the start of any revolution 🤣
Yes it’s time to stop the erosion of our culture and ask that people who come to our country, respect our laws and systems and not shout racism every time when you don’t get your own way
Ultra processed foods should definitely be banned
How did the student ,fund their case ,out of their pocket money, it's a farce
At last Common Sense has prevailed at the High Court , if Prayer is so important maybe the parents should have sourced a Muslim Faith School , time for some serious mindset , Why should a child be in a school then wants the rules to change for their faith .School kids don’t pray in Saudi Arabia which is a Muslim Country . The saying when in Rome do as the Romans is applicable, seems like the UK is so eager to accommodate others they’ve now bent so far they’re now lying flat on their back
Welcome to the UK. If you want to practice Islam, feel free to hop on the first flight to a country where it is the predominant religion. Which is not here! (yet!)
never will be. the fight back has begun and i see it more and more daily
@thewomaninblack5827 Hear here. Im sick of people being defeated by this unwelcome religion and its followers. I agree that the uprising has started against this attempt to overrule British culture, real British culture. People need to stop the defeatist attitude our forebears would be ashamed of them.
@@thewomaninblack5827 Math doesn’t lie. They have more children than us and the future belongs to the children.
On the smoking ban back in the day the law should have left it up to the establishment to decide
Who the hell does this government think it is
STAY OUT OF OUR BUSINESS.
Smoking laws going too far, will just cause problems with cheap cigarettes brought in illegally and huge loss of taxes, sugars far worse presently than tobacco
They should see how the prohibition of alcohol did in the United States. It didn't work.
I think they should ban tobacco completely, but legalise Cannabis.
That's the only reason they're panicking now, the loss of tax, they should be thanking the smokers very much for the huge amount they've all paid in over the years
@@marianac715 I should hope so too x
@@kingflynxi9420no wonder you're insane.
This case costed:
1. £100,000 to £150,000 borne by the UK tax payers in the form of legal aid to the muslim student.
2. Legal fees incurred by the school, and also the staff time spent on the case (I guess similar amount as above).
I'm an immigrant myself and I'm absolutely gutted at the helplessness of this country 😢
Now all these prayers taking place in the middle of council meetings should be banned! Outrageous that this shd be allowed in this country!
Schools are a microcosm of the country. We should definitely take a similar approach to Islam as a nation.
Lol Islam is growing and spreading everywhere, dominating. Tge future belongs to Muslims you don't have a country without them
The parents chose to send their child to that school knowing exactly what the school rules and ethos were. They are free to send their child to any other school. Apparently, the mother said she is disappointed in the ruling by the judge. Tough luck. To her: Don't think that you can enforce your religion on anyone else and take them to court using taxpayers money in legal aid, just to try and get your own way. The school bans ALL TYPES OF PRAYER OF ALL RELIGIONS. Your child is no special case. Move them to a Madrasa or move to a Muslim country
If smoking is so bad and now less people smoke and not in public places why is the cancer rate going up?
Jib jabs
Cigarettes are taxed to high heaven! If they were banned, how would that generation generate that tax income?
Good I'm glad,I wish people would stop trying to change the world,the child and parents knew the rules so abide by them
The Michaela Academy decision has been a real ray of sunshine.
I hope the other students can now pursue success unhindered by this legal bullying.
sunek wants to have a strong and concise look at our BORDERS??????
I have smoked since I was 17 and said a couple of years later that tax would soar if they banded smoking because of the tax on cigarettes, the price you pay is about 80% tax. I'm 74 ñèxt week and never go to the doctors, only when he gets angry and rings and says I need my yearly check up.dont take away my bit of pleasure.
Don’t agree with the ethos of the school…find another, don’t take a secular school to court. This is an excellent high achieving school..be grateful for an education that this country provides for free, as the legal aid provided to take this school to court. You don’t like it then go to a country that shares your beliefs, oh wait! Education for females may be limited. Ungrateful. I’m sick of the democracy of this country being used and abused. Give your student place to someone who will be damn grateful of an education.
I hope the police and authorities fully back the school when the mob turn up outside the school and arrest them!
Dont hold your breath if the hate marches are anything to go by.
Hopefully this ruling will now set a precedent for other schools to stand firm against islamic demands. Well done.
What amazes me about this Case is the Pupil is a Female. Can you just imagine what would happen to her if she tried a trick like this in her own Country?
Great news about the school on cigarettes ive never smoked but would never tell anyone not too.
Look at the Chapel at Stansted Airport. Once changed into a multi-faith Prayer Room, it is now more a small mosque with a footbath and prayer mats. Not a place for women.
Fantastic news
They signed up to a non-secular school, end of
One pupil causing so much trouble . The family should be ashamed. But they will not care will thy .did it cost the family anything to take them to court? I don’t suppose it did …total disgrace
Brilliant!!
A rare case of common sense & backbone .
Very soon they will demand bank holiday on Islamic occasions.
true. already sadiq khan put lights up on eid on oxford street like it was christmas. can’t wait til he is out. I DONT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT EID WHY SHOULD I
A smoking ban should not be remotely a priority right now. The original smoking ban made sense as it impacted people who don’t smoke by making indoor areas smoke free. This latest iteration is overstepping their authority. The government have no say in how people live their lives as long as choices don’t impact others.
The impact of obesity on health services is huge and growing and larger than the impact of smoking, but only the smokers get shamed…. Why?!
You must live under a rock if you think obese people aren't shamed
No too islam ,boot em out
If you want your children to pray in school, take them to an Islamic school.
Stop trying to impose Islam on secular school.
YOU SHAPE IN OR SHIP OUT!
If this had been allowed, how many more schools would follow? They'll be requesting holes in the ground for toilets next!
Absolutely great news !!!! Katharine Birbalsingh is indeed a hero, such a courageous and principled Principle (-: so happy for her. She and those with the balls to follow her example need to be protected, encouraged, promoted and acknowledged for being the ones brave enough to stand on the front lines of these idiotic culture wars that they may not even wish to fight but are seemingly ..if they find the stomach for it.. forced to...for ALL OUR benefit.
Send your kid to a secular school then complain because the school doesn't make allowances for a religion? What is it about the word "secular" that the kid's parents don't understand? Maybe they're just looking for a handout for being "offended"? 😂
- *Goes to Christian country*
- *Shocked to see Christianity*
The school is secular.
Want a school to pander to your particular religious bent? Go to a school that already does, preferably in a country that already does. Bye!
Good to know that some judges still have spines in Britain.. if any Muslim student do not like prayer do not choose faith school
I don’t understand you comes to live in Christian countries and you want to put all kinds of rules
Pls we respect Arabs countries but we will never want to change anything
We need to follow the rules
Each country and each religion should be respected and protected
This is school for education not bloody mosque!
Ban the offending belief system first. That would imorove the UK immensely!!
That would be a huge infringement of human rights though????
You mean your facist beliefs right
@@kingflynxi9420Islam Is An Infringement On Human Rights. Preaching Hate, Submission, SA , Death to Apostates, fgm ,Cousin Marriage.
@@kingflynxi9420 How so?
@@riaan2540 right to practice religion, right to freedom of expression
Hooray for common sense 😂😂😂😂
And that attack in Damascus killed one of the architects of
the massacre on October 7.
This was an important case to win, well done to all involved..
How much will it cost the losing family? Big bucks should be!
Never mind Smoking, obesity is one of the largest cancer causing problems these days and costs the nhs and benefits a fortune, I suspect Carlos isn't slim due his denial
Although I don't smoke, we are not a dictatorship "yet" people must be allowed to decide for themselves, the health aspect can also be used for alcohol which causes more deaths and anti social behaviour than smoking ever will.
And sugar
And processed foods
And too much tv time...
...it will go on and on if we allow it.
WE ARE IN ENGLAND NOT THE MIDDLE EAST THEY SHOULD GO FURTHER ,HOW COME YOU CANT HAVE A CRISTIAN CHURCH IN A MUSLIM COUNTRY YET MOSQUES POPUP LIKE DRIVE THRU MC DONALDS IN THE UK WEIRD THAT,ONE RULE FOR THEM ANOTHER FOR US ,I USED TO NOT BE BOTHERED BY ALL THIS BUY NOW I FINALLY SEE WHAT IS GOING ON AND IT AINT GOOD FOR ENGLISH PEOPLE AND ENGLISH CULTURE !!1
Schools are for studying not praying. It's to become intelligent not dumb.
Why can't they just leave people alone?
Just like, have a free for all. Great.
Because their demented book demands that they convert and conquer infidels.
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