Why I don’t buy new games
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Radical Reggie bought scott pilgrim on release day.....still have my 360 with it on it......
UH HUH CLLOOOOUUUDDDYYY
Radical Reggie hey what apps do you use for editing?? Looking for a good one to make videos off my phone
WA has that dank lol
Looks like you smoked a big one before filming. lol
I stopped gaming for a few years, now it's great to buy games for older systems that I never got to because they're a lot cheaper
FishBee Productions i can't like this comment enough
Not all
And the games are actually finished. What a novel concept. -__-
FishBee Productions ...for now
Where do you live?! All games I want to buy for older consoles I grew up with are over hundreds if not thousands of bones! I have to use VC and not all games are on there..
I agree, hate all the dlc, constant updates, etc. I miss the days of just buying a game, putting it in, and playing.
Ma1ne Event as long as you don't need it to beat the game but if people stop supporting dlc than things would change
Ma1ne Event-Oh how I long for those days once more
Digital is better
VintageWrestling Fan lol yeah, for the gaming companies. We can't ever re sell with digital
Ma1ne Event same. Actually thats still me in 2018
When you buy new games nowadays you're buying a beta and you're the game tester.
Movie Nerd sad but true
Movie Nerd never thought of it that way. Good analysis!
Movie Nerd paying to be a game tester rather than being paid for it
Yeah, I mean early access is just basically paying money to test the game for devs while it should be the other way around.
Genius way to put it.
Patience is key with these new games but damn sometimes the hype can overcome us.
like Destiny and such....
I don’t buy new games because they are expensive. I always wait until the price goes down.
Jason X I'm just not playing persona 5
Exactly!! But for some reason, Wii U games are the only ones that the prices are still firm like $60 for Star Fox like C'mon Wii U isn't big anymore it's all about the switch now.
P5 was worth day1 and Could have fairly had dlc. MEA not so much. So bad it didn't even get dlc..
Jason X I usually do that.. Unless it’s a game or series I’m a big fan of.. Most recently I played the demo Radiant Historia Perfect Chronology though I was so impressed with it I bought it top dollar.. I’ll most likely buy the new Trails of Cold Steel games right away.. Maybe even the next Valkyria Chronicles.. BTW Reggie is correct SFIII is definitely an underrated gem and I don’t recall it being cheap like a lot of the others are.. Not as in price but game play..
@@randybradley4151 and because they know we'll pay
Yeah man I usually wait to buy game systems for at least a year after they come out and same things with the games. I'll still play the good games, just way after everyone else and that's ok with me. Great topic dude
Retro Game Players me too I like when i buy a game so cheap and enjoyed it. I don't watch any walkthrough.
Same thing is true with movies. There's more content with both nowadays, and they're released with stuff edited out for those who need to be the first on the block lol tell me how dlc isn't like the ultimate edition dvd of a movie. Just glad to see other people do this to anti-consumer industries. I mean if there is something original or a nice promo (juicy juice had Incredibles 2 with $7.50 off), why not? I will get bloodstained curse of the moon, looks awesome. And the bit about the internet: zold:out pissed me off with a single player beta that they closed but it's online only. So much for backin it on a Kickstarter, but at least I got to play for a month unlike mighty no 9 if you chose 3ds. Did like Shantae Kickstarter as it gave ultimate edition and free dlc. Just see what time is best.
Same!
You're so right Reggie, in 20 years time playing all this DLC will be more difficult than people think. Digital is not the answer.
It'll be nearly impossible.
@@Frogdoddofficial no it won’t. All the dlc has already been dumped into the internet archives and so will newer games as time goes. As long as everything gets dumped than it will be preserved for life.
Best way to preserve games is dumping and emulation. All hardware will die, new pc hardware won’t. All we need is our software and we’re set. You ever played a tales game from the PS3 at 4k60fps on a pc?
@@Boogerdick69 I'm not trying to argue or anything but most games these days require an internet connection. Even single player games. Disc's are just like an unlock key at this point. It won't be like how I can collect ps2 games still today. You won't be able to pop in a ps5 game in 20 years and play it.
@@Frogdoddofficial who cares about putting a game in a ps5? 20 years from now you’ll be grabbing that ps5 game for free on the internet and playing it on a low end pc getting 10x the performance you coulda ever dreamed of during its ps5 era.
A couple years ago I sold most my PS3 games. About 3 months ago I decided to hack my ps3s, I got all the games I sold back for free. And more, got all the expensive games I won’t ever spend money on. For free, I can also play most of those games on my pc right now. About 60ish % of the PS3 library works on emulators.
Who cares about ps2 era?? Only reason that works is cause load times are slow asf. Of course game discs are now just keys to unlock the whole game. If not installed into the console drive you’re going to have some ancient ass game not being able to played at its full potential. That reason is why dumping games is the best and sure fire way to preserve games. A fire can burn your physical collection right now, it won’t burn files stored on the internet. Simple
@@Boogerdick69 collectors care. That's the entire point of this channel, man.
I don't get the thumbs down...I mean you people would rather buy a release of a game and then have to double dip or buy add-ons later instead of getting the complete game?? Don't you get it? The companies are milking you. Jesus!
Metal Jesus! Feel completely taken advantage of buying content. For me I haven’t bought a season pass in at least 3 years.
I'm all for people waiting but supporting the creators by buying their game day 1 so they can continue to make the games you love is alright by me. First day buyers are the reason your favorite games will get a sequel.
@@futuraguysuntzuphilosophy7181 - I've never bought a season pass, and I'm completely fine with that.
I miss the old school n64,dreamcast,ps1,ps2 era
The main reason why I don't purchase "New" games is my CRAZY BACKLOG.
Plus, once I finally get around to playing new games, they're cheaper!
Yyyyyyeup!
I've said it before and I'll say it again. give me the whole damn game and just charge me the extra 10-20 dollars or whatever.
having things not available is just super annoying.
I don't mind paying extra if a game is finished and fixed.
Yes, but why pay extra to get a complete game?? That's the basic premise! When u buy a car they don't give u three tires and say "if u want the last tire u have to pay extra"!!! We're letting these ppl rob us blind
I can respect that, but I'm more of an old school gamer. If I have to spend money 2-3 times on the same game, I will just lose interest and stop playing. That's why I have such a hard time getting into current gen games. I love what technology can do, but it makes new games almost too technical to enjoy. I like to look at current games, but retro games are more enjoyable to play, in my opinion.
Mr. Don .
I think you're 100% right. This has bugged me for a while now. I don't buy new games. They aren't finished, they're buggy and need day one patches and they want you to buy a season pass which you don't even know what it is yet.
Worse, the AAA companies deliberately hide it from you.
I mean when companies are not giving out review codes....probably a bad bad sign.
Its gettn worse the greed is real
I'm all for dlc, the creators already do not make enough to make a game that takes years to develop and then the game only costs us $60. It may sound like a lot but it's not, the only way they can recoup the cost is by making DLC so your favorite game can continue to be made.
DLC DLC Everywhere
I miss the old days when you popped in the disc or cartridge and instantly playable
Thank god for PS2, Xbox and Gamecube
When game companies were before 2008 or so, they were FORCED to make good games. Even EA, Activision and Ubisoft were made through lack of patches and ridiculous micro transaction frameworks to make fucking good games
"Complete editions" That include extra content in download codes irritate me to no end. I remember buying Capcom essentials collection on PS3 so I could get a physical copy of Mega Man 10. Turned out it was a download code. I should have noticed before I bought it but I didn't. Never touched anything in that set because of that.
Tarks Gauntlet they're doing this to dissuade people from buying used copies of the game.
Amir Jubran aka removing power from the consumers hand. I don't care what the excuse is, I will own what I buy or I won't buy at all.
Tarks Gauntlet same here
Fallout 4 GOTY is also a JOKE. The only thing on disk is an updated copy of a game, the rest is as a DLC.
Street Fighter V Arcade Edition is even worse. You're paying $40 just for a slip of paper but they advertise the game as if it were complete. Even then, all you're getting are the characters from Season 1 & 2. You don't even get any stages. LOL! Crapcom.
I believe that the game industry died after the ps2. I prefer retro games, better soundtracks, artstyles and much better game play!
Hetkanookanders ps2 was too late. 99% of the best games ever were made in the NES SNES era. Nothing good since
Hetkanookanders I agree with the artstyles! Many indie games either looks like poor imitations, while others has this soft round design and bleak/bright colours. Not a big fan of that. The soundtracks are still pretty damn good! You must have either played muted, or the wrong games.
I agree man I like being able to buy a game and then pop it in and play it.
For me, 360.
I stop for a while as well it felt like my ps2 was the final gaming err for me I bought a ps3 and ps4 and it doesn't feel right sometimes I get on a nes SNES saga or Dreamcast and really enjoy them to the fullest power every time.
The worst part is that the codes eventually expire. I remember buying Medal of Honor, factor sealed, putting in EA's code, and having it tell me the code was expired.
Remember how people were outraged by rumor that Ultra 64 (Nintendo 64) games were going to be $100 each. The rumor turned out not to be true, but today, you buy the game, but if you want to complete game with all the DLC crap, games are now, what, $120 for the complete versions of games.
Yea but GameStop can reuse those codes again before they expire even if they’ve been used. That’s why they leave the codes with the game that is used.
I just can't justify spending $60 on a new game when I look at literally hundreds of unplayed games in my collection... but then a year later I find that game for 80% off...
IMHO the reason new games released are so unfinished is because of the internet, yes i know no body ever said that but that is the real reason, because when you think a little bit, we didn't have fast and good internet connections back then, hell, 90% of the people i knew didn't have internet, including me, but as i said back then we didn't have connections so game developers didn't have a way to communicate with the gamer and....the issue of nowadays games: updating the game, they just didn't have that tech back then so when they made a game they had to make sure it is 100% finished because that will be it, nothing will be changed about the game after the release and they knew it, and of course there were alot of bad 8 and 16bit games but that is not because they didn't finish it, it was because they thought that it was completed, and that is the issue nowadays, developers know that they can fix the game any time the want through an update or something, and that needs to stop.
Kemo Kemo - I usually wait until a COMPLETED version is release. I did hat with Resident Evil 7, The Witcher 3: COMPLETE EDITION, and countless others. Keep in mind that those two mentioned games were or felt complete upon release.
Btw, Resident Evil 7 supposedly have dlc on disk except the hero DLC.
It also has to do with how complicated the game is. In the 90s / early 2000s most of the more complicated games were on PC and they did have patches to download to fix problems. Think RPG like Baldur's Gate, Gothic 1-3, Deus Ex, and others. But you are right the internet is certainly an excuse for developers to ship a knowingly buggy version on the disc. All they need to do is have the patch ready by launch day. That is really irritating.
statikcat but still, many games on consoles like Lttp and clocktower were so complex and didn't need any patch, and the updates weren't as much on pcs as now
How was Clock Tower complex? That is where the guy chases you around with scissors right? By complex I mean more RPG with a ton of inter connected quest lines and dialogue choices the game has to remember to properly continue the story and possibly branching paths. Those are harder to test because each play through is very unique.
statikcat well for the snes it was pretty complex, you have to remember that this game was a SURVIVAL HORROR game, ON THE SNES, i know it is not as complex as RPGS but for the snes it was.
Edit:also the game had tons of mechanics it introduced that no game dev ever imagined he would be able to pull them off
Ironically enough tho, i am not a fan of neither clocktower nor Lttp lol
It's crazy how widely accepted DLC and post-launch content is. I just want everything available on disc, and give me the ability to unlock everything.
Well Reggie I agree with you pretty much 100% on this. The good thing is that there are more than enough older games to keep us busy for the rest of our lives. And things like fan translations and emulation have REALLY opened up the floodgates for games we can enjoy. The future may not be bright, but there is a renaissance of older gaming to take part in.
I think the most important point about wanting content on the physical media is that in 10-15 years, that content won't be available for download. Just look at things like the Wii eShop closing and games disappearing off the Xbox Live store. I bought Street Fighter II on Xbox Live years ago, then my old Xbox 360 died and I tried to download the game on Xbox One and it's not even available to download even though I purchased it. If they're doing this to entire games, you know they're going to do the same for DLC. Give me physical media ALWAYS.
New games are incomplete and unfinished. Either because it's rushed to market or they want to squeeze every dollar from you with dlc. I wait as well and because of you I shop at play Asia. Great prices and tons of extra stuff packet into each game. And no DLC!!!
New games are incomplete and rushed out because kids today don't mind buying shit with their parents' money...
Davis Tobia Nintendo games are finished.
What a stupid and ignorant thing to say. There are plenty of games that are finished but developers choose to expand the story with expansion style DLC like old PC days. Some good examples I can think of are Horizon Zero Dawn, Witcher 3, Elder Scrolls games, Dishonored, and expansions aren't a new concept. Expansions have been around since the 90s PC gaming, it's just they are now stigmatized as being DLCs. Also there are many new games without any season pass or DLC like Yakuza games, Uncharted 4, Dishonored 2, YS 8, Persona 5 etc. Also most of the time the DLC is throwaway anyways and not even worth it for people who enjoy single player games and aren't into MP.
I don't buy new games because I am poor.
Yea back in the day when I could afford gaming I only purchased top tier stuff new like mario/zelda because I knew the used price would not be much lower in most cases.
You become more radical with every passing day, Reggie.
Great points! I very rarely buy new. I hate having to buy DLC after you already pay full price for a game. The new Star Wars Battlefront is the worst of the worst for this.
The exact same reason for my, and why Im restricting myself from getting Dragon Bal Z fighters, all that Season pass and DLC bullcrap
I think you're a wise man. Even if it weren't for the shady practices and outright lies AAA throws at us, waiting a few months allows for the major bugs (that really should have been fixed in beta) to be patched. I wait a year or more at times because I refuse to be AAA's Guinea pig.
The issue I had/have with digital stuff is the servers... will they still be around in 10+ years?
This is going to be really interesting. For example when will PS3 servers shut down? What happens when you want to play your PS3 games that need patches? Hopefully Sony doesn't rely on PS Now to solve this. They could design a way to download final patch for a game from the web on PC and load it from a USB drive. They would need to update and test PS3 OS to implement this but that would probably be best long term.
Remember the unachievable achievements...😔
Yeah I go physical if I can, but when I go digital its when a game cost less digitally sometimes just making it physical cost more abd it has extra goodies you may not want, if I had the money digital wouldnt be a alternative but I have to save even 10 dollars to buy even more.games for my collection anything helps
or the games that rely on online servers for the main gameplay, and then eventually those servers shut down. Then what?
Man I never thought about this.. almost all my games are digital..
All of these reasons are exactly why I avoid buying the physical version of anything except for nintendo games. They might as well sell all physical games as a piece of flat cardboard with scratch-off codes and stack them in the 100's on store shelves. It would be more ridiculous than things are now, but its not far off.
What really bugs me is this trend on Switch with Bayonetta Collection and Mega Man Collection. They say it comes with two games but only one is on disk, the other you have to download.
Scott pilgrim
Marvel vs Capcom origins
Marvel vs Capcom 2
X-men arcade
The simpsons arcade
Many good arcade style games pulled out from ps store. Screw digital.
Yea I just want everything on the disc when I buy it, that way when I want to revisit a game 10 years down the line I can just pop it in and play
That's the scary thing about DLC and game downloads. When you buy them you're just buying a license to play the game and technically the game company could potentially take that away at any time. On a side note, Free Ps plus games are great but if you want to stop your subscription someday you lose all those titles that you got through that service. Great video Reggie! Really got me thinking deeper about waiting on new releases. Luckily I downloaded Scott pilgrim back when it came out but I would have loved a physical copy.
Absolutely agree Reggie, I remember the days when we bought full games on disc especially special editions or expanded editions. And I feel like content planned to be a part of games gets cut to be put behind a paywall by calling it DLC and it’s just more and more standard practice. You’re awesome and so is your channel man, keep on being Radical!
My only issue with waiting for a price to drop is my friends have stopped playing the game. People are fickle and move through games rapidly. Especially online games.
TownLine Tim I totally agree.
totally agree reggie. i dont even but new systems until its fairly established. ive been playing my wii up until last year but ive gotten to actually play the whole series. then a friend gave me a broken ps3 which i fixed and bought injustice and a handful of other games, the last of us and something else oh and destiny. i bought the "gold edition" but nothing but the original game is included. it was all codes. now they are saying the next gen are gonna be discless. i miss the days of just popping a disc or cartrige into a system? i paid alot of $ for the games i already own. but its 1o years later so i can go back and play them, but if these games dont have everything. scott pilgrim vs the world i can never own now. how can we preserve digital only content
Firstly,I've been meaning to sub to your channel for a while. Just subbed today. Your collabs with metal Jesus rocks have been on point.
Second, I'm in agreement about dlc. I find myself waiting til black Friday to buy most triple A games nowadays.
I'd love if you hosted a podcast on your channel talking with your friends about gaming on a weekly basis. I enjoy just hearing you chop it up about games.
Breath of the Wild, God of War, the Uncharted series, elder scrolls, Red dead, GTA etc. Those are game to buy new. They are worth the chance. I’m not waiting around to play stuff like that.
This!
So true a game you know you will get 10+hours in red dead 2 is gonna be so good
nah I still wait
If the people behind the game have a history of releasing quality on day one, then there's no reason not to be more lenient with them.
Maztuhmind not about that. just don't see the point of spending$65 for a game when I can wait a couple months and get it forhalf the price or less
Tell is What Grinds your Gears Reggie lad....
reggie, these are genuine problems in the modern era, because if you just get a code for the dlc, it means if you resell that copy, it doesn't have the dlc. when they shut down the online stores, you can't get your dlc. we should never stop having high standards because of what could happen if we ever do.
Reason I don’t play new games is I just don’t have the time to keep up. Currently playing shadows of war on pc. I’ve bought resident evil 2 ready to play once I’m finished with that. Plus waiting on steam is so beneficial you can get it heavily discounted. Very rare do I buy games when they come out.
on point. 100% agree.
God of war is example the developers told us what u see and play is want u got no dlc
Yep
Straight to point no bullshit 👍😀
Waiting on fighting games is a bit of a gamble though if you like playing random people online. If you don't buy and play early most of the games player bases die off by the time a complete version comes out. Especially if you are a Guilty Gear or Blazblue fan.
I know I said this last night in the MLIG chat Reggie, but I am so glad you made this video and said what you said. Thank you!
Actually Reggie I picked up Resident Evil VII Gold Edition, and everything was on the disc except Not a Hero (which is what the download required info was for), and it's free for all versions since from what I understand Capcom weren't happy with it, so that gamestop employee gave false information. So feel free to pick it up.
However Arcade Edition is indeed a voucher, BUT they were in fact on the disc that comes with arcade edition, they just have a lock over them until you use the voucher, arcade mode was also on the disc....yet the story mode still required a separate download..... So they in fact made new disks for the game, they just didn't enable the content to be used without a voucher.
Also a Injustice 2 complete edition has been out for a few weeks Reggie! haha! It's called Legendary Edition I think.
BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle is probably the biggest fighting game DLC offender. Only comes with half the roster on disc, the other half is paid DLC, and the big kicker is the game is a sprite dump like the old Capcom vs. games, so they're selling people already made characters as DLC. In fact they're actually reselling DLC characters from the previous BlazBlue game as DLC in this.
Anyway I agree, this whole voucher crap for physical complete games is getting old. However what's going on with Switch is even worse, in which physical games don't even come with the complete game on the cartridge, so you have to download part of the game before the cartridge even works at all. Plus of course Capcom releasing collections on the Switch, yet making the larger file size games vouchers (Resident Evil Revelations Collection, Mega Man Legacy Collection, Mega Man X Collection).
DUDE I totally get where you're coming from with the shadow of the colossus guilt lol. It's like it's a horror game that makes you play the villain.
Truthfully, I felt that way a little with the original PS2 version... I mean the way they fall over so slowly and the music that plays when you kill one of them, it just looks and sounds so sad, and makes you feel bad, I actually almost decided to stop after the first one, but continued til the end to see if it was all worth it or not..
Hey Reggie.....new subscriber here. Just want to let you know I like your videos.
Just started playing PS4 after all these years and the bit of the games I have, I owe to you........thank you for the videos
100% agree with you on everything. Gaming is not what it use to be. I find myself having to wait, and by that time I want play it, I have lost interest in it. I hope this trends changes, but people are obsess with quick fixes and not savoring the experience. Keep up the good work.
You are 100% right about everything you said. I just want to put in the disc and start playing. And yes, games sometimes look too realistic and the gameplay and the graphics don't match anymore.
Unfortunately physical media is on the way out. I hate it too. What happens when our clouds and hard drives all breakdown? But I think we're almost to the point where every game will be digital. Producing physical copies probably hurts a company's bottom line. It costs money to make the game, to decorate a box, to ship the final product. Department stores take a portion of the revenue from sales as well.
I wish Scott Pilgram and Marvel vs. Capcom Origins had physical copies. I missed out on those.
Vengenace Early That's true.
Why would a physical copy hurt a company in this digital era, everything was physical before.
To me digital hurt more just because there is a big audience that still prefer physical games, its not logical to buy digitally because you don't own it.
I don't know, it's just my way of thinking and maybe I'm wrong.
I doubt physical media will be out, Vynil records are coming back, people do like physical media, and it shouldnt dissapear, because of the sense of ownership, depending on a digital bs that doesnt exist in some cloud that might dissapear just as fast as it appeared is a terrible idea
Digital media last longer than physical, theres ways to back up harddrives and cloud saves, if something happens to the physical media, thats it, its done. PS1-PS2 games are already getting disc rot.
Meh, they can last longer that is true. But as stated if I want to go buy the Scott Pilgrim game, or MvC: Origin's collection. I cannot. Also I feel like anyone who has ps1-ps2 disc rot didn't take care of their games at all. All of my PS1, and PS2 games work flawlessly.
Dude, I HATE the way fighting games are released today. Minimum rosters and (sometimes) features all with the intent to patch in or, at worst, sell characters piecemeal to you at a later date. I used to be a fighting game fanatic but I haven't fell into that category for about a decade now. It sucks.
The one game that brought my piss to a boil was the Metal Gear Solid collection on ps3. Only a couple of games were on the disk but like 3 or 4 games had a download code and I expected everything to be embedded on the disk.
Also I agree. I feel like dlc’s are just a way for game companies saying “we only made about half the game so we expect customers to continue paying for the rest of the game when we feel like releasing it”
Yes agree with your comments and I think its a money grab mostly and I avoid where I can these games, thats also why I too search for under the radar games, I always watch your and MJR's pick up videos for PS4 game ideas, Just fired up my C64, no updates....
Vegito Charmara I Just collected every C64 game I saw at bootsales or Garage sale, years ago they were so cheap, I love the sound chip so back in the day I bought games for the music first, there are in the region of 30,000 C64 games produced, so whatever you gaming preference is I am sure there are C64 games out there, I wish you well in your quest for C64 goodies.
Vegito Charmara Yes the C64 is the computer / games machine with a built in keyboard, it came with a cassette deck which plugged into the back of the C64, disk drives were available but were expensive but were much quicker at loading up the game, there were far more cassette games released than on disk.
Hollywood ( movies) are doing the same thing
yeah? you have to download DLC when you watch a movie in the theater? GTFO
Digital games are stupid, these gaming companies either can't or won't provide value for money. Removing scott pilgrim vs the world for people who've already bought it it's just terrible.
I agree Reggie. Realistically they want to charge us $100 for games these days. I'm not against DLC if it's done right, but sometimes I see these companies hyping the DLC and the base game hasn't even been released yet. Good Video. Sidenote: I do believe they released an GOTY for Injustice 2 that comes with all the DLC. Its called "Legendary Edition"
Unless there's some sort of guarantee that they release a complete version with all DLC on the disc, I don't think that's the main reason to wait for buying new games. Most of these "complete" versions don't have their DLC on the disc anyways.
For me, the main reason to wait is the fact that games these days get a price drop so fast. Look at Ni No Kuni 2. It's out for like two months or so and it's already 34.99 over here.
same reason I wait.
vcfreek thats because when a game doesn’t sell well, they drop the price to promote it and spike up the sales a little bit
Even the games that sell well drop in price a lot faster than it used to. Within six months, there are price drops of 50% and more for fast selling games.
vcfreek yea they do but it depends on the game, mostly multiplayer games tend to drop in price pretty quickly.
Take a look at Destiny 2 for instance, the player base dropped dramatically and now that game is pretty cheap.
But then when you look at a single player game is critically acclaimed like breath of the wild, it will remain $50-60 for a very long time
But it seems you frequently buy fairly new release games that you show in the pickup videos with MJR.
Oh and Scott Pilgrim isn't gone forever, it's abandonware and can be played by anyone on computer.
I feel ya, This is also why I don't support the "online only" trend at all... buying those games is like throwing your money down the drain, supporting those titles just give devs the excuse to make more like that, less game but more $$ for them.. years down the road if you want to play it you can't cause servers are down etc.. I feel bad for those that do support the genre..
New games are the exact reason I've reconnected with my love for "retro" games. At least I know for a FACT that I'm holding A COMPLETE game in my hands.
Radical. Being a patient gamer has it benefits. Got doom for $19.99 the other day. Great game but idk if I'd pay $60 for it f
which doom???
2016 game
it's definitely worth all the money...
This is the exact reason I sold my ps4 and went back to retro
Starstruck bla bla bla
Word... Sadly I've been holding back on buying a PS4 or Xbox One. Lately I've been playing retro games. And buying Clone Systems like the MiniGen HD by GamerzTek to play Sega games in HD or Super Nintendo or PS2 games oh God I could keep going!!
Starstruck You seem to be a kingdom hearts fan don’t you want to play 3?
We'll see, when it finally comes out that is
i Agree, for me, i bought my PS4 for Battlefront and i was so dissapointed that it's only a multiplayer game !! they could do so much with the Star Wars trilogy ! , i bought the II and the solo was so short, i played multiplayer and pay, but i stopped after 2 months cause it's unplayable, to difficult. i still have my xbox 360 : no internet needed, jtag chips on, i play all the games (it was the best games, best console of his generation ever ! , play emulators on it, arcade, psx, Amiga ! and played my Amiga CD32 who have 25 years old ! modern gaming sucks.
Final Fantasy XV Royal Edition is the same. It's the vanilla disc with a single use download code inside. Was quite annoyed but thankfully Royal Edition physical was £19.99 when the DLC combined would have been around £40-£50.
Preservation is a big concern when this content isn't on the physical disc and you're relying instead on a server that's going to go offline sometime.
It's also training people not to buy games on day one, people wait for the inevitable "complete edition" and it hurts those initial sales.
I thought I was the only one that got so annoyed with how in your face GameStop can be when you walk in haha but yeah I feel you on this video. Frustrating to see how games have taken this turn. It’s one thing if the disc is filled with the original game and they have dlc codes to download the extra content but that’s rare
I totally get you Reggie. But it seems the problem is many games are almost 50GB now even before patches and if I remember correctly Standard Blu-Ray discs can hold up to 50GB. So a game like Final Fantasy XV which is almost 100GB with all DLC and Patches installed can't fit on disc and of course the companies are not gonna manufacture a 2nd disc so they give you a season pass code. Think about it, last gen games were much smaller GB wise so if it was a 360 game it usually came with a 2nd disc cuz it was a cheap standard possibly dual layer DVD and PS3 games were Blu-Ray and games were small enough GB wise for them to be able to put the DLC on the disc.
EDIT: I'm not trying to give an excuse nor do I AGREE with this practice I am just stating this with a publishers mindset. They want to unfortunately save as much $$ as they can while MAKING as much $$$ as they can. It"s sad and BELIEVE ME I was furious when I bought the GOTY Edition of Dragon Age: Inquisition only to find out not only was the DLC NOT on disc BUT all the season pass codes expired 1 year prior to my purchase. So I get the hate I was just trying to explain it from a tech standpoint
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There's no excuse. The companies publishing these turds are run by greedy pigs. Developers don't have job security, publishers call all the shots. Every effort is made to keep all costs as low as possible, with every possible avenue for increased profits pursued.
A couple years ago, i got a Wii, 360, and new 3ds XL. I saved probably thousands, or at least hundreds. Catching up with a Switch soon, yay
Glad you made this video man, I feel the same way. The only difference is that I do still buy a few "complete edition" games when they get cheap. What they did to the "physical copy" of Cuphead was just really really sad by the way 😢😢
Love the psx intro reggie. I like that you mix up the intros sometimes
This is why I now only play Wii, Wii U, GameCube, Ps Vita , and my 3DS
11:03 - To clarify, the people that already bought the game can still download it, it's just not sold any more. Happens all the time...and many of those games come back to digital download services, able to be sold again.
I always watch unboxing videos now before I even think about buying physical complete editions
That intro alone made me sub man lol brought back all kinds of good feels
brotha, this is such a great topic. Part of the reason why I kind of got out of buying hard copies and consoles. Like I used to really be into, but my last console I have is the Wii. I just play stuff on Steam now. Although they still have similar practices, but at least it's expected on a platform like that. I really do miss being able to wait for a game, buy it, and get the intended game, good or bad, and just run with it. Being a software developer myself, even I see how we become way more dependent on that mindset...YES on the indie games. They aren't tainted by corporate minds at that point. Pure love. I can always get down with that. Love that music too.
I feel the same way...I prefer physical copies as well.
Reggie ROCKS! \m/ >_< \m/
I totally know what you mean about 5:15. I am fairly poor, so I can't always afford the internet and I like to have all my games stored and then backed up onto a HDD, but these business practices and DRM-Trickery is making that harder and harder for me.
There are games that I own, which have no value if I have no internet.
So say for a few expections, I try my best not to collect these kind of games.
As they are literally a waste of space.
I'd rather collect and play old PC Games or Emulated games, over content that I paid for but can't access whenever I want.
This is why I have a problem with the modern game industry. DLC was a nice idea at first, get this bonus character, ooo a new costume. But then horror stories about them came out and it ruined it for me. Not to mention I buy a lot of games with these codes, and in trying to beat some other games I don't rush to register them...
I wish more people would follow this advice. DLC was a great idea; back in the day, there were 3 or 4 different versions of Street Fighter 2 that came out for the SNES, and each time, it was a fairly minor update with a $50 price tag. That could've been easily and more cheaply fixed with DLC, had the technology been there. Pay $10 to play as the bosses; pay $5 for some new moves and Turbo Mode; that sort of thing. Instead, Capcom is STILL charging full price for new versions of Street Fighter, and then tacking DLC onto that, instead. Companies are expected to release unfinished projects, ram you for all the extra content, then release a "Game of the Year" Edition that is either full price or even a discounted price for the full content of the game a year later. It also doesn't matter anymore if a game is buggy; they can just fix that later, so they shove it out the door. If everyone would just wait for that, companies would likely stop these practices. Vote with your wallet!
Really hit the nail on the head with this vid on multiple subjects.
DLC and patches are the worst. All it tells me is that they released an unfinished game. There is not point in collecting games unless everything is included in the package. What happens when the servers to download the dlc are shut down?
The vid isn't too long brother 👍🏼 you good, good conversation 👍🏼 Back in the days when old consoles didn't have internet access, we actually bought the full game, we worked so hard to pay for. So in some way, consoles now having such ease internet access might be hurting our hope for consistency full-game disc on release. But then again, being online allows us to play with friends anywhere in the world. So there's the ups and downs..
This hit's home. Imagine in 10 or 15 yrs when you wanna play an old game again, but the servers and DLs are no longer supported and you can't even finish playing your games, years from now. This means the future of retro gaming will be incomplete.
big fan reggie and the whole metal jesus crew I watch your videos to create drinking games and this one was everytime reggie says "you know" you take a shot. I almost died
I miss getting the fully loaded manual with a purchase of new games. Complete with cool artwork and backstory 😔.
Cool! Radical Reggie, you like Funky DL too. One of my favorite producers right now.
I agree about dlc not having it's own physical format. Buying map packs for a game that will eventually have the servers shut down, leaving no way to install it back or play EVER again. This is why I put story mode before online multiplayer.
The content quality of this video is pure gold.
I totally agree with you, unfortunately I don't see it changing, only getting worse. It's frustrating as hell.
It goes along with game preservation. If you have to download additional content to a game, when the servers go down, you can't get that content anymore. If it was all on the disc, you have an option to access it forever
KEEP TELLING IT HOW IT IS MY DUDE!
p.s that stash is working for you
Same here I don't want to be online 24/7 half the game companies nowadays are just greedy mainly EA and bungie. Single player games will never die to me.
Amen. This repackage w/codes practice is one of the more disrespectful practices of the industry today. What happens in twenty years when servers for most games are gone for a game you are purchasing for the first time, or wanting to replay one you've removed from your system? You're left with an unfinished experience... all because the company wanted to save on cost.
I agree! It is very rare I buy a game new. in the past 3.5 years, the only new games I bought were MK11 / Megaman 11 / Assassin Creed Origins on PS4 and Starlink / Breath of the Wild / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe on Switch.
I bought Fallout 4 on release, packaged with an Xbox One, sold it 4 months later because 80 dollars a game Canadian plus extra content is over $120 fucking dollars. Nintendo is literally the last breath (no pun intended) to classic plug n play fun gaming. DLC, Season Passes, Skins/MTX. Very saddening
I used to buy AAA games at launch but now that game prices have sky rocketed to 90$ here in Canada, Montreal, I never do anymore. Paying 90$ for any game is outrageous. I just wait for a price drop or sales.
I hear you on this. I'm at the point where I rarely will ever buy a new game. I feel like I'm spending too much on a half done game for $60
Reg. I love the new intro. Cool that u had your mom in the intro. Nice