Porsche Cayman GT4 Review - Why it's the German Honda!
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- Mid mounted high revving NA 6 cylinder? Check. Light weight? Check. Steering feel and manual shifter of the Gods? Check. Been waiting to drive the Cayman GT4 for a long, long time. Conclusion? Porsche might as well call this the NA3 NSX.
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If you’ve driven an S2000 or NSX and still think the title is silly then fair enough. If you haven’t then please do. There’s nothing under $100k I’d trade my S2000 for. Over $100k this Cayman is their first thing I’d drive. Great review and thanks to the owner for sharing your car with us.
Michael Cohen I think it's silly only because hasn't built a RWD vehicle for so long. The S2000 is so long ago. All they do hybrids, not fwd sports cars
Fully agree with this. Currently weighing the option of supercharging the S2k or getting a Gt4. I think the former will hold me over for a bit, but in the end, probably will still get a GT4. Will have to see what happens with the 718 GT4.
So you wouldn’t trade in your S2k for an M2/4cs, ZL1 1LE, corvette, gt350, etc?
Blake Swan Not fwd sports cars? What are you talking about? Civic Type R, Civic Si, Honda Accord 2.0T. Lets not forget all available with a 6 speed manual.
Michael Cohen S2000 is too slow
10:55 fastest I’ve ever seen a car drive through there.
GT4 just makes it soooo easy.
Zygrene had a smile on his face the entire time that said it all
The owner actually takes his Porsche to the track..legit. Porsche GT cars were born for the track. However most GT owners would just store their cars away for collectibility rather than track it.
Go to any track and you’ll see a slew of gt cars.
I am so glad Porsche has brought back the manual for their cars. One of the many reasons why I love Porsche.
This is what the new NSX should like. And this is why a lot NSX owners changed to this car instead of the 2nd gen nsx. PURE, RAW, NA, HIGH REV, MANUAL.
I care only about 1 thing. and these are "feelings" and "emotions". Noone cares about the 0-62 or top speed. This is why the old nsx is a beast and the new one is kinda fail.
Honda can be very stubborn about responding to obvious market forces. No one wanted the NSX to be a new R8 and now NSX's are sitting on dealer lots. It doesn't seem to matter how many potential customers ask them to release a GT3 variant.
5 NSX was sold in April... 5. (USA). From 180k + now you can get them for 110k.
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the new NSX is just too expensive period. you'd have to be rich to own one. not only that it's still just a Honda. at that price tag there are limitless other options.
The NSX may be better than the R8, what I mean is they fulfill the same niche by being cars with similar missions at a similar price point. I don't meant to be rude but claiming the NSX is a 918 fighter, or a hypercar of any sort is a bit silly.
I would agree that people are unnecessarily harsh on the NSX, it's good at what it's trying to do. But it's not the car that people wanted from Honda. People didn't want a 4,000 pound luxury exotic AWD hybrid with brake by wire. If they ever get around to making a GT3 variant I'm sure it would do a lot better, but Honda seems pretty committed to ignoring market demand now.
I have a 2016 GT4 and previously owned a second generation S2000. You can't compare these two cars. The S2000 was a great car however the GT4 is an excellent car. The S2000 was extremely load on the highway and the ass end would come out easily. Anyway you can't please everybody. Carry on.
Porsche Gt cars and the oldschool honda cars we love have the same philosophy us car guys die for.
Would be happy with a late 987 Boxster, base or S, just fun driving, great sound, plenty of power for the road.
You ought to drive an Evora 400 since Matt Farah swears that's the modern interpretation of the original NSX. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Evora vs the GT4 and NSX
Yeah I would love to compare the Evora 400 to the GT4 and the few supercharged NSX's I've driven. I reviewed the Evora S a couple years back, it's on UA-cam.
Zygrene The Evora S is a great car but it seems like they changed the vehicle a substantial amount with the 400. I commonly hear the shifter feel is miles ahead of the S
I used to be an Honda boy too. I've owned an S2000 for 13 years before buying my GT4. I absolutely adore it
Same here! Owned a bunch of Civic Type-Rs, then a K20 EG, then a 1M, now a GT4. Loving it!
S2k and GT4 owner here. Also had an ITR before as well. The GT4 costs 4x as much as my S2k but damn it’s worth every penny. Once you drive a GT4 you’ll understand.
I think you make a good point. I had S2000 and felt that it was impossible to get the best out of it on the roads where I live. Vtec engine better suited to track. High geared GT4 similar to this. Great vid! 👍🏻
This channel should have way more subs.
Lol at the "lol pdk" plates.
Having owned 3 new S2000’s over the years starting with a 2000 model year as well as 2 NSX’s (1991, 1995) I honestly don’t understand the title. Nothing about either an S2000 or NSX is comparable to this car. It is so much more focused and motorsport feeling than either of those cars. I currently have a GT4 and had a chance to get behind the wheel of a friends bone stock 32k mile example and forgot how numb/slow/heavy the steering is...not to mention how much understeer and body roll it has. I still think it’s a great car and I have never tired of its VTEC growl but at the prices that used/nice examples are selling for currently you def made the right decision.
This is undoubtedly one of the best sports cars in recent years. But, I can't help but notice just how many are for sale at any given moment. And, yet, they've lost almost no value from new. Porsche has hypnotized enthusiasts to the point where they just throw money at them.
I noticed the same, very interesting. There's no real shortage of supply, yet the prices would suggest so.
Nice video. As a GT4 owner, I have to agree with your points. Well said.
The thumbnail looked straight out of a Forza game, I was so lost for a second there.
GT4, Evora 410/430 and Exige 380/410/430 are my favorite cars right now, oh and the Gen2 GT3 manual. All amazing cars. You NEED to drive another Lotus mate you will love it
I drove an Exige S last weekend! Undeniably fun to drive but man, it is so uncomfortable. I wish the seats had more padding. Maybe I'm just getting old.
Zygrene seems like pretty much a track car, right?
this is the review I needed, posted my S2000 for sale since I just secured a GT4
Depending on how Porsche curates their lineup in future years, I think these are either going to become serious collector cars ...OR they're going to be the track-addict bargain of the century in about 10 years. I've penciled them in for the latter optimistically, and will watch accordingly :)
First gt4 review I’ve watched where the long gearing is accurately addressed. The car isn’t slow because of it but more of an issue of involvement. 👍
One of the best modern Porsches! Nice review :)
One of the few Porsches I actually like.
8:03 "Aaah" (came) lolol
Great review!
That license plate tho.
Sums it all up :)
I died !!!! Lmao
The top dog GT4 Clubsport is still PDK though and that’s what a sports car should come with. I think that license plate on the GT4 CS says “ROFL 6SP”.
Chang Kun The GT4 Clubsport is not a street legal car so you can't put a license plate on it.
Some where between NSX and MR2.....but more like MR2 to me if u include the recent 718
Yeah I am die hard Honda Man two CRXs , 1 TSX and a Supra as well. Just bought a Porsche Macan GTS and its mixing in with my likes for these type of high high quality cars. To be honest I would still shoot for the 911 Turbo S man and the NSX. Its just natural Evolution there is mixing going on here. Pretty Soon we will be trying to VTEC our Porsches LOL !!!
How does the first gen NSX, first gen R8 and GT4 compare in visibility, pedal placement (heel&toe, left foot placement etc.) and nimbleness?
Let’s see a second gen NSX review!
1st gen NSX pros: visibility (by far)
981 GT4 pros: pedal placement and overall handling
Zygrene typo in my comment - missed the R8. How does the R8 compare with the two in terms of pedal placement, visibility and nimbleness?
Nice review, keep in mind the car has adjustable sway bars if you want to dial out some of the understeer
Someone is going to think about selling their NA1 😂
I own this car and think the visibility could be better. The hood should be lower. Also engine doesn't rev that high although it sounds pretty good.
great review of a great car - long live PORSCHE 😄😄😄
how do people in cali afford this
The throttle response is insane...
i have s2000 ap2 , a Porsche Cayman GT4 and benz c63, those car have different characters like the s2K for mountain up hill and down hill extremely fun to drive when s2k have down weight to 1080 KG net weight ,Porsche Cayman GT4 go track racing and countries side cruise around, but 1360 KG weight kinda heavy but it have a big 3.8 liter engine, c63 just go to the high ways easily go 280 KM hahah
Such a shame this car wasn’t given the GT3 4.0 engine it deserved
I can't even imagine how perfect this car would be with a 9000 rpm 4.0 and short gears!
Then it wouldn't be within buying range for the upper middle-class, or middle-class singles. Get one used, put $5-8k into it and it'll be more powerful than having the 4.0 with less weight
This gen Spyder and GT4 will have detuned GT3 engine, it will be quite a jump from the Turbocharged inline 4's of the current range.
Zygrene orgasmic is the word my friend, also simply the engine it deserved.
That said, as amazing as Porsche motors are, and they are, the chassis is where its at. A cayman with a coyote v8 revving to 8k or even a LS swap is godly
Adeel A. Ahmad yea the baseline won’t be the turbo 4’s though lol
I'd like to see you drive the Sharkwerks GT4 which Farah drove, considering the tall gearing and 50 hp shortfall.
Funny how these self claimed car expert don’t know what that sport button really does
Awesome indeed...OK ...I will start saving for the upcoming GT4 right now !!! :)))
Dont degrade it by comparing it to a honda.
Stefan Cupovic ...Honda is making airplane now...Can Porsche do that ??? :)
All I can say is that Porsche Gt4 is my favorite car to drive in forza Motorsport 7 if that’s any thing to go by ;)
*There is still a modern day spiritual successor to the NSX around.* It's called the Evora S/400. It's mid engine Toyota V6, 6 speed manual, and its reliable. Honestly, I'd take an Evora 400 over an GT4.
I wouldn't.
Love these cars, but for the Price a 400hp TTRS, would stay right on its tale, lets not get started on what the five cylinder becomes once even mildly tuned
Jordan Erickson the four banger Cayman S is right on the tail of this too. Fast wasn’t the point. The ttrs is automatic only too.
Beautiful car, but I think I choose a supercharged NSX, but then again I wouldn’t dare modify such a classic
Isn't the c2 carrera 996 (that you refer to) modified? It had suspension, wheels, roll bar, etc? The engine was bone stock, if I remember correctly.
Yep it was modified on GT3 suspension, wheels, etc. with just basic engine bolt ons. ua-cam.com/video/9L253WRKui8/v-deo.html
Cool review although at 105 grand? You could almost reach a little further and get a mclaren 570! (Kidding ) thanks
Haha there is some truth to that, though I'm sure the 5 year running cost of Porsche will be far cheaper
had an s2000, and drove a gt4 on track. never drove an nsx. the gt4 is better than the cayman s and gts in significant ways. the manual transmission is better, shorter/more direct/selfcentering, and the brake pedal is solid. there's no excuse for porsche to not improve the regular cayman with those two upgrades. the gt4 handling has a wobbly feeling before the chassis fully loads, which i didn't like, but there is a lot of grip. the engine sound was better than a regular cayman, but not all it could be. i could put my foot to the floor with no wiggle from the rear end, which was disappointing. felt like the car was being regulated by computers, but it was probably just the tall gears preventing any playfulness. steering feel was pretty good, you could feel the front wheels undertseer, which is important. having said that, i just keep thinking that the 911 GT3 would just be more direct and raw for a similar price. I also imagine that the nsx has a better gearbox ( i really want to try that gearbox), a better induction noise, and more accessible handling, which in the end would make it a better road car. it also looks more special, and is built with a more special structure and oozes history. i think the nsx fixed a lot of the mistakes that porsche still makes today with its normal cars. want to try an nsx next. ultimately want a gt3. if those dont satisfy, i give up and will go karting.
If you haven’t yet and if your ever in the Los Angeles area I’d love you to review my gt350
I'd be stoked to review your GT350! My favorite car on sale right now besides the GT4 and GT3 Touring. Shoot me an email at Zygrene@gmail.com :)
Review the new GT4 please!
Pretty fucking expensive Honda!!
Nice. I follow alans IG since day 1.
Can you review a new Camaro SS 1le
If this is the German Honda, whats the Japanese Porsche?
cloudhidden they don't have it and plus he is idiot for even saying that and porsche is more precise and more drivers car and all around better car
Have you driven a GT3? Curious how you’ll feel between the two, that engine is fucking amazing. Such a shame Porsche couldn’t the only cayman to remotely do cayman’s Justice the engine it deserved, and still held it back further with the gearing. I wish they’d just once say “fuck it forget about stepping on the toes of the GT3, it’s limited production anyway and with caymans going to 4 poppers it deserves its time to shine”...but no, and that will forever be what I hate most about Porsche
I haven't yet, but have plans to review a modified 997.1 GT3 at some point!
So true
It's a Drivers car...... nuff said
Good fun review but it has nothing to do with honda. Enjoy your GT4! 🦅🦅🇺🇸
Do a Z4m coupe
My dream car :(
So derogatory to define posers those who prefer a PDK... Maybe all RS owners are posers, who knows...
Hondas are cheap, reliable and popular (especially when you include Honda motor bikes). I hardly see any Porsches around in the neighborhood in the Sydney western suburbs. Why? Because the Germans can't price them to the same level as say a Honda Civic Type R or Honda Civic RS. That's before you consider maintenance costs for a brand who's roots go back to the Volkswagen Beetle.
H0LDENSUX Honda root is a fucking lawnmower and that every Honda driver feel when they drive that they someone lawn
One man's trash is another man's treasure. I'm content I fall into 80% of humanity who owns only 20% of worlds wealth.
Dude stop comparing shitty ass Honda to Cayman
Surely not comparable. At best, you can compare a Cayman to a Lexus RC F. Or compare a Honda to a GTI.
Both the GT4 and NSX are 6 cylinder, Naturally Aspirated, Mid-Engine and 2 seaters. Pretty comparable IMO.
Allen Sales Not even close in terms of performance. I had a Honda Odyssey minivan with a V6. That's not comparable to a front engine, 6 cylinder Porshe. The NSX of old isn't a very good performance car relative to cars of today. A Porshe from 1995 is still a pretty great track car. While these two cars are both mid-engine, the balance isn't the same. The NSX was very back heavy. A 911 is more back heavy but makes up for it with downforce up front
I own the GT4 in this video and i've driven multiple NSX's. Some stock and many modified. They are more alike than you realize. You just compared a Minivan to a Porsche? You are also comparing a Flat 6 Mid-Engine 2 seater Cayman to a Front Engine V8 Coupe in the RC-F. That doesn't make any sense.
Allen Sales never driven at GT4 but I've driven the original Cayman and an NSX. I'd much rather have an original Cayman over the original NSX and I'm sure I'd think the new one is even better. I don't care about comparing cylinders. I care about comparing how a car drives.
Wow, “weeds out the posers”...so you’re insulting all pdk(the best dual clutch in the world) Porsche owners? Not cool boys! This from a 6 speed manual lifer.
Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of reasons to buy PDK and plenty of legit car enthusiasts prefer it, but I would be very surprised if there weren't way more "posers" in PDK GT3's than manual GT4's!
Sounds like and drives like an S2k? Save yourself the 90k and just call it a day with the S!
Your title is incorrect and Honda does not build a single RWD vehicle. Not one. S2000 has been dead for apmost a decade. Move on
Blake Swan Honda is basically a lawnmower with 4 seats and even sound like lawnmower
Don't compare a Porsche with a fucking honda
Dream on, Asian boys. Don't ever put Porsche and Honda in the same sentence- I bet you guys wear Geezys and run around saying, ''Hey man, they're just like Yeezys '' !
Dumb title. When I think sports car maker, Honda doesn't come to mind. Porsche however does.
Jose Lopez As a follower of the channel I get it. Everything is benchmarked to the S2000 and NSX. Not many sports cars are high revving NA and Manual nowadays. Those Hondas were. Having said that the title is tongue and cheek.
I can understand that but when Honda does make a sports car, they make a proper sports car. I'm still 50/50 on the new "NSX," though. Even the FWD Type R cars gave many RWD cars a tough time on the track.
Great review!