How FAST can you beat Pokemon Red/Blue with just a Jynx?
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- Опубліковано 5 сер 2022
- Shoutout to BlueZangoose from the PRET project!
Edited by: SimplyAJ ( / simplyaj )
Rules and Explanations
Rules: (1) Only use the one Pokémon in Battle, others for HMs are fine. (2) No Items in battle (3) No Glitches* (4) Set Mode (5) No saving in the Elite Four (6) No evasion moves
Badge Boost "Glitch" Explanation: When you collect odd numbered badges the game boosts a stat by 12.5%. Brock gives ATK, Surge DEF, Koga SPE, and Blaine SPC (in game text is wrong). When any of your stats are modified (even by you using a move like Withdraw, or your opponent using Leer) the badge boosts are re-applied. So If you use Swords Dance, you also gain *an additional 12.5% in Speed/Defence/Special (on top of the 12.5% you were supposed to be getting). When you level up, the game corrects this error, and only the non-glitch 12.5% remains. Because of how difficult it is to avoid, I've allowed for it to be exploited, since opponents will spam Leer/Growl anyways, and this way battles are less random. Red/Blue are extremely buggy, so there's always going to be some glitches present, and because of how unavoidable this one is, it is allowed in runs, and considered more like a special Generation 1 mechanic as opposed to a glitch. - Ігри
"Because of the growl, psychic does pretty decent damage" - just generation 1 things
This channel is S tier
This channel is SS Anne tier
I've gotta agree: The consistency of videos, the quality of uploads - it's brilliant.
Best 🔥❤💪
Agreed
This channel is Mewtwo tier
1:13 I immediately was like “Hey the Charmander has his right colors but Jynx has its own too.” Really cool that it’s possible to have more than one color palette now.
It's a GBC emulator
It’s not a GBC emulator, but a Super Gameboy emulator from the SNES. Full color palettes wouldn’t come to Pokemon games on GBC until Pokemon yellow.
I guess it is hard to think up 50 unique color palettes, even tho i love limited colors in old games
@@caritahearts2405 it's not hard to think them up it's just hard to store them all in memory.
@@kaptainKrill Correct. The Super Game Boy can give separate pallets to static portions of the screen if the game is specifically coded to work with the Super Game Boy. This was probably intended for things like title screens or cutscene slides, but Pokemon takes advantage of this since battle sprites are static and moves are simply sprites placed over top.
Jynx is using an entirely different sprite from the front though. So that was tweaked too.
It's hilarious how Pidgeotto/Pidgeot was always instantly killed by a crit so we never knew if it survived a Bubblebeam or Ice Beam that didn't crit.
Rival 3, Pidgeotto took half to Bubble Beam without a crit
@@FroststormFrenzy Oh.
It's STAB Ice Beam, it will kill
Not on SS anne
Hello fellow Heath enjoyer
I can't believe you've done this with 50 Pokemon, I hadn't counted the number in the tier list for awhile
With 50 he said there would be no more
You should do more casual pokemon challenges
nathaniel bandy
I've done 42 runs based on Jrose rules myself so far
Hold on, ain’t u nathaniel B?!?
I actually really liked the old two-tone color palettes. I know they're still there on the side, but it gave each video a unique feel tied to that Pokemon. I always looked forward to seeing the new palette and what palette was chosen for the next Pokemon in each video.
Same. Colors were done in yellow as a cool feature in gen 1 and you lose that gen 1 feeling since every other gen had color.
Same
@@StealthNinja4577 pokémon gold pokémon silver can run on original gameboy as well so they don’t necessarily have color
THIS COMMENT!!!!!!
I immediately noticed and wanted to see everything in purple. I don't care for the multi-palettes.
Less than 30 minutes?! Alright, let's see how well Jynx did
this was my first thought too xD
@@m0rla_ same!
Aw man, don't jynx it before I've even watched it...
@@m0rla_ an hour would put it between jolteon and gastly
Then again Gastly had problems in route 3 n jynx had big problems with lorelei and difficulty with Bruno and rival
I think jrose is right to penalize jynx for shaky Bruno n rival fights
@@denis2381 never found the videos stretched. If anything the longer format is more endearing
Not to Jynx things, but a 24 minute run should mean great things for Jinx!
So it turns out someone else(Jan Knoblich) posted a comment ~an hour before mine mentioning this and WITHOUT giving the answer away near the top of the comments section. Oops. (Original text below; contains ingame change)
The change is the Jynx sprite, it uses the GSC front/back sprites instead of RB
Ye
I noticed that too- most likely to avoid potential controversy
He's also using a super Gameboy for SNES emulator based on the colors
I noticed that, too.
@@Ospyro3em That's why the 3DS Virtual Console version of Yellow changed Jynx to purple
Under 30 mins? Go Jynx!!!
I love your videos bud. Might sound weird, but I have to fall asleep listening to UA-cam (the silence weirds me out), and your videos are among my top 5. Not that your videos are boring! Your voice is just nice to listen to, no dumb over-reactions or anything like that. So thanks for that!
EXACTLY the same man.. weird right but JR goes on for 3 minutes and I’m out cold 😂
same here man, you are not alone. This is one specifically is my first time actually watching it
Same here, bro. His voice is relaxing and warm.
I always like to fall asleep to the video, but then go back the next day at some point and watch the second half of the video that I missed lol
Almost every night for 2 years I fall asleep to Jrose lol.
If Jynx had just started off with an ice or even psychic type move this run would have been even fast haha. Like it wouldn't have quite gotten to Mewtwo times, but it probably would have been close
He said it took him around an hour
So that puts jynx in the tier with jolteon above it so it doesn't even make a tier
It is concerning when rival n Bruno are struggles for a pokemon
@@nautgamingnautgaming9949 he plays sped up, so that hour of real-time could have been longer on-ranking
It wouldn't be close to other fully evolved mons that have better stats
@@matthewroberts5891 other fully evolved Pokémon don't have the typing Jynx has. STAB Ice Beam and Psychic is a tough combo to beat.
@@nautgamingnautgaming9949 um im confused where in this video did he struggle with bruno?? he literally beat it while not having enough psychics to hit all of the fighting types and took literally one hit.
The Jynx sprite is different, and I also believe the back sprite is different as well! Thanks for making these videos Jrose. Always enjoy them!
You're right about the backsprite
those are the crystal sprites
@@connorgross3410 All the gen II backsprites are the same. It's not specifically Crystal
Ash Ketchum tries to throw hands with Mewtwo and fails miserably, yet Mewtwo trembles in terror when sensing JRose is around 🙏🖤
I love the dichotomy between the games and the anime. I know it doesn't really apply to gen 1, but in FRLG it's like "yea Mewtwo has monstrous stats, anyways my bat with 4 wings bites, and he doesn't like that very much."
I think this runs highlights something very specific to Gen I. Because breeding wasn't a thing yet, Pokemon movesets before the level the Pokemon is expected to be obtainable are often complete filler trash and they don't learn anything new until afterwards. If you had done this run in FRLG then Jynx would have powder snow and Brock would have been extremely easy.
Hey Jrose, I just wanted to say thank you for making these videos. This is kinda weird but I've always struggled with terrible insomnia, but for the past few months I've been putting on your runs before bed and I'm able to fall asleep soooo much easier than before! (Don't worry I finish watching them when I wake up lol) they've really been helping me so I appreciate it a lot :)
I've done this. Very soothing voice. Not a boring voice or video, just a soothing voice with a relaxed demeanor.
Same here. Jrose and Summoning Salt are my two favourite bedtime listens. I've always been a terrible sleeper but listening to these legends talk about video games I loved when I was a kid manages to do the job!
Me too! That's interesting that other people have found the same thing.
Same here! I thought I was the only one that did this! It’s so soothing and I’m glad I’m not the only one that he’s helped!
Jynx is my favorite mon still for real and it is shocking how good it is in Gen 1. Great vid as always
Somehow I never get bored of these videos & most of the time I click immediately 😂 love ya channel, man.
I wonder how long you spent listening to jynx's cry this run. Jynx has the longest cry in the game by far, and you probably lost a few minutes to it.
Had a real crappy week, checked last night for a Jrose vid hoping to make me feel a bit better. My utter joy when I saw this notif today :)
A JRose and a MDB video in the same day? Sign me in!
Some cool things I noticed:
1. Sprite changed, Jynx uses what I believe is the gen 2 sprite
2. Color palette of sprites seem more accurate
3. Framerate is still fluent even when replaying sped up footage slowed down
Very nice Jrose, you keep getting better and better. Thumbs up from me!
Woo, Jynx has always been a favorite of mine since childhood (unpopular opinion I know), been very excited to see this one eventually. Very pleased eventually is now.
Maybe it's unpopular but you do you. I know how it feels (mine is Diglett.) Enjoy the video!
Bauke and siriondil both amazing picks! Love to see originality for a favorite Pokémon!
It's hated because it's "ugly" and a "racist caricature", but I respect its design conceptually. It's actually inspired by a mythical Japanese creature called "yama-uba", so it makes a lot of sense that it has seductive mannerisms despite being grotesque. Also, frostbites can lead to purple/black skin, and it's given Dry Skin as a hidden ability (frostbites can heal by warming up the body without outright exposing it to high temperatures).
Btw, Jynx didn't do as well as I expected. I thought it'd come very close to Alakazam if not overtake it.
I'm suprised Jynx has fans then again Bruxish does to.
Mine is Hypno (yeah shocker with my pfp lol) but Jynx is easilly my fav ice type Pokémon by a long shot
Idk why but your videos are oddly relaxing. Awesome to see a challenge with one of my favorites! Looking forward to the Golem run!
That was hype as hell big J, the pacing of the video really makes you feel the speed. Absolute banger as always
Since you did Jynx, I can’t wait to see how Magmar and Electabuzz will do!
Scyther Khangaskhan and Pinsir interest me not for power level but for late game encounter
@@darthparallax5207 scyther is really bad Gen 1 like really bad
Rival n Agatha are really hard for scyther
Pinsir would be interesting it depends on if it learns earthquake or not
Butterfree is really strong Gen 1 n can possibly pull off minimum battles too good
Kanghaskhan depends on moveset n if it again learns earthquake
@@darthparallax5207 if any bug has a chance at an a tier my money's on butterfree actually
The question is if surge and or misty will wall it
Once it does its shop gets psychic it's very smooth sailing
@@nautgamingnautgaming9949 The only real wall I can think of is Blaine
@@darthparallax5207
I’m pretty sure Scyther is impossible because it only learns normal-type moves.
Reminder that Jynx is so powerful that her design had to be nerfed.
Always a joy to watch these. I've been watching these solo challenges since you started with Bulbasaur and it's always interesting to see the roadblocks you encounter and how you overcome them.
Loving the new color pallettes. Always awesome seeing how you continually evolve in these videos. :) Thanks for staying awesome.
The thing is that I thought he might be playing yellow instead of blue xD I miss seeing pokemon with weird colors too
@@StealthNinja4577 okay but hear me out: Yellow color palettes but they're all on the wrong Pokemon for next year's April Fools upload. Stuff like a green Geodude, blue Charmander, red Dewgong, etc
@@phoebe5114 I don't mind it'd be pretty funny if it was also using the original gen 1 sprites from Japan that look creepy
This run is amaizng, the effort level is just freaking amazing along with the raw skill put into this
Edit: also the color pallet being correct per Pokémon is literaly the best thing ever I lvoe this
I can't wait for him to redo this series with fire red or leaf green. they rebalanced most of the pokemon to actually learn some moves early. They probably had to do that because of eggs. Like jynx starts off with powder snow.
Also abilities would make it really interesting. Like rattata gets guts.
Alot of mons will probably get screwed in gen 3 due to the changes. Dugtrio for instance still only has normal/ground moves via level up. It can learn a few new TMs like thief/aerial ace but i dont remember if they are on sevii islands or not which could leave him in a magikarp situation once you hit pokemon tower.
@@GhengizKanye Aerial Ace is on Route 9, but also since Struggle can hit Ghosts past Gen 1 you can always try that at least.
I really enjoy your Pokemon runs. They're great background entertainment when I'm working. If that doesn't sound like a compliment, well it is. I love listening to your strategies and how you win through challenges. Can't wait for the next one.
What makes JRose runs so much better is the high level commentary and the focus on strategies over grinding. I learn something new every video!
JROSE is the best of everything when it comes to Pokémon challenges. Always looking forward to your videos!
Yup. No one is close. Especially MDB
@@leedsunited8787 Stop comparing people
@@marzbar5877 what about creating a super satirical rivalry? Something to the tune of: Mah Dry Bread doesn't wear pokemon themed underwear and calls himself a pokenerd psh.
@@stephenheller149 Now that’s fire
We're gonna need a breakdown or a horizontal version of that tier list soon! Congrats on the big 50!
I’ve been watching for a long time, your videos are perfect to watch/listen to while I’m cooking or cleaning. The only problem is I tend to miss stuff so I watch them 2 or 3 times so I don’t miss anything. Keep up the good work bud.
Jrose back with the regular content... I love it... Keep it up man!!
Seviper vs. Zangoose for you and the rival names? Are we hinting at a Gen III challenge next? No matter what it is, I'll watch it. Amazing content from an amazing uploader who knows the ins and outs of what he does. Love it!
I wonder if that was because of the guy who helped him, BlueZangoose?
Would be fun to see a “rivals” series with Pokémon like Seviper/Zangoose, Heatmor/Durant, Carbink/Sableye (esp since hasn’t done a XY run yet), Corsola/Mareanie (for Alola), doing 2-mon runs with each of them or even pitting them against each other to see who’s faster.
Finding out that psychic type was actually supposed to be immune to ghost type in gen 1 was a huge surprise because when I played Red I often had a Ghastly or Haunter with me and I used Nightshade - a ghost move - to get through Sabrina's gym. Only to then additionally find out that Nightshade was yet another glitch, or rather functioning as intended, and also worked on psychic Pokemon.
It blows my mind bc I always remember in the show Ash,Misty and Brock go into that house to try and catch a ghost type (the 3 choices we had back then) to ask haunter to help battle Sabrina
Was expecting better from jinx but the rock was in the way ;)
Keep up the great work 👌
Can't wait for the scyther vs pinser rivalry to be settled!
Let's go team scyther 👌
Really loving the more frequent content on youtube, keep it up jrose!
You know, I'm so conditioned by the later games that every time I watch one of these and you Body Slam Pikachu and Raichu I'm like "but Static!!!!" and then I remember it's gen 1 and I feel dumb.
Anyway I wish Jynx would get an evolution. I never liked using single-form pokemon (even if it was retconned into being a second form). Magmar and Electabuzz got evolutions eventually and I consider them and Jynx from the same gen 1 single-form "trio" so she should've got one too.
Probably due to all the controversy surrounding jynx, they've just dropped support so it wouldn't come up again.
Definitely one of your more quicker videos. Really want to see more single form pokemon. Scyther, magmar, electabuzz. But let's be honest I'll keep watching all 151.
Another video ! Blessed be the Pokemon gods. Love your vids Jrose. Keep em coming
The patience by jrose is impeccable. Thank you for the quality content!
What a beast. I guess Jynx is good too. Put this content straight into my veins
My theory is that when the devs made Psychic immune to Ghost, they intended to make Ghost immune to Psychic. That would explain why all the Ghost types in Gen 1 are also Poison, despite that making them weak to Psychic: they were meant to be immune anyway, so it wouldn't matter.
To this day, I still can't wrap my head around how someone could make such a big mistake. Like, didn't they have a testing team?
Ghost type: "You took everything from me"
Dark type: "I don't even know you"
It’s a wonder the game even worked at all. Development was pretty rough and it had to meet a certain release date.
Multiplayer battles were a last minute addition too, that’s why there are such broken moves such as wrap and fire spin.
@@SorenToKeiran-Murasaki Keep in mind how old this game is and how limited the hardware and the development tools were at that time. No comparison whatsoever to modern game development with sophisticated tools and much better hardware. The first pokemon games also are waaaay more complex than most, if not all, other Gameboy games at that time
@@BrawlLegendLink Still doesn't take much to ask Taro from the testing team to check if the type chart works as it's intended to. Especially when the type you're testing has ONE offensive move.
In an alternate timeline:
"But Arcanine isn't waking up in time... in fact, it's NEVER WAKING UP AGAIN!"
Great video and fantastic performance from Jynx
I found it amusing you did the type chart explanation during the consistently uneventful Giovanni fight
The Gold front sprite and the custom back sprite were cool too
Awesome
Haven’t even watched the video yet (it’s been live for less then it’s runtime), but that has got to be one of the shortest solo JRose11 runs not just in quite some time, but ever; I think only some of the early starter runs, where he was much lighter in detail and strategy, were shorter. I predict a something quite similar to the Mr. Mine sweep in the improved Red/Blue minimum battles run. But even better with ice moves for additional coverage. Let’s go!
Edit: Okay, much, much better, the sleep addition and carrying Ice Beam and Blizzard too really sped things up. That 5 hour runtime is so deceptive, this would be near Gengar levels were it not for Brock grinding. But that’s how the game was built, can’t fault it for that. What a great run to do for No. 50, eh?
And yes, I noticed the Gen II Jynx sprites. Any particular reason you wanted hose for this run? Was it to unambiguously have Jynx’s newer purple-skinned design?
For a brief moment I thought, "why isn't he using Lick against Starmie? It's Super-Effective right?" Then I remembered, "Oh yeah, Gen 1 Psychic type is immune to Ghost." Becides, I'd wadger Mega Punch would do more anyway.
Colors look great! Great channel and runs! Thanks for the content and keep it up!
Love there's been more uploads lately 😃
Your content is so good it’d work as audio only
Fun fact: Mr Mime in all the generation 1 games (including Japanese Blue version) is the only Pokémon which cannot have your trainer idea. Obviously this excludes gen 2 trade backs. Just thought I’d share that.
That would include tradeback because there's no way to get an egg in a Gen 1 game.
Return of the king! Love the longer videos tho. This one’s more of a snack lol
Dude, YES! best subscribe reminder I've ever seen on youtube, well done Jrose.
Jynx has such a good movepool in gen1. Not surprised it did well.
Ice and Psychic covers literally everything. That's how Poliwag ended up in a high tier.
"you want the toad, the lizard or the turtle?"
"the blonde ice woman please"
can't wait to see how this one goes
Jynx is based on the Yamauba, a yokai similar to an ogre who lures victims to her icy lair with charms and magic.
Great stuff JRose. Always love the vids.
Can't wait to see the Snorlax run. Not even a Snorlax Stan, I just know he'll kill this run and have a chance at beating Mewtwo.
Have been watching your videos for a while now, kept me occupied during long hours in the lab during grad school, then while stuck in my apartment during Covid lockdowns.
I got Pokémon Blue running on a rooted 3DS, and managed to figure out how to start with any mon. Copied your challenge rules, started off easy with Starmie. Haven't played thru RBY in years, so I made a ton of time-wasting mistakes: unnecessary battles, backtracking, getting lost in Silph Co etc. Only managed 4:57 at level 58, final moveset Surf, Psychic, Thunderbolt, Blizzard. Did manage to sweep the whole E4 + Champion first try though. Compared to your times this is super slow, can't wait to see how you do with Starmie! Surely a low 3 hr time.
Thanks for all the great content and consistent quality!
Actually I tried the Jynx solo run about a month ago, I ended up beating the game also at level 64 but it took me 9:09, 4 whole hours more than yours (kinda expected because I only beat Kanto like five times counting the remakes almost 20 years ago).
I obtained the TM for Body Slam but decided to stick with Mega Punch and learn Body Slam via level up, because I kept Bubblebeam until the end in my movepool and I thought I might need to delete Body Slam and reteach it again for Champion's Alakazam, deleting Psychic for it. I also went with Ice Punch until the Elite Four, having Ice Beam and Blizzard via TM in case they were needed. Why I kept Bubblebeam? Because I didn't remember that Ice is normal damage against Fire in Gen1, making Ice Beam also super effective against Fire/Flying Charizard, silly me. Had I realized that I would have had a more consistent moveset not depending on TMs.
Anyway, great run! I had fun watching it, and more fun comparing the events to my own run (yes, I also had to reach level 18 for Lick to beat Brock, by the way).
EDIT: And yeah, I noticed something off with the Jynx sprites until I realized they were the Gold ones, and the back sprite being pixelated to match Gen1 resolution.
4:54 Rotating between Lick, Lovely Kiss and Pound simultaneously… lucky Onix 😂
This is the earliest i've been in a long time! Good luck Jrose!
I love all your videos! I can’t wait until all of the Pokémon are done so I can see the final list!
Spoiler for the ingame change (I think):
The Jynx sprite is the 2nd gen sprite. The question is why
I think you're the only one to get it so far, good job!
@@Jrose11 Thanks. 10 minutes in might not be the toughest competition ^^
Why did you (have to) change it?
Have you seen the Gen 1 Jynx back sprite?! It's basically a gollywog.
@@joshuacarder5690 I mean yes but many gen 1 sprites look..odd
Jynx is a snack ngl
I love your challenges but I also watch them and then use your Playlist to help me fall asleep, thank you so much for your calming way of play with these challenges it really helps my anxiety, love you and respect you so much thank you!
That’s about a third of all pokemon down now. Great job!
Also being able to play cartridges on your phone sounds really cool. The power of science is amazing
Jrose, I did my first one of these speedruns following your rules. Nidoking at 3:09. With my suboptimal pathing, fighting a few extra trainers and no mimic, I think you could beat this time and possibly dethrone Mewtwo.
Rival 1A, both optional bug catchers and the lightyears trainer are mandatory and even then it took me 3 tries to beat Brock. Two optional trainers on the S.S. Anne for Body Slam and the Rare Candy and I think two optional trainers in Silph. Idk who is mandatory there. One was blocking the way to the heal spot and one was blocking the way to a Carbos. Rival 2 and the rocket grunt with Dig before Misty. Ice Beam then Erica, then Game Corner, Lavender Town, Koga/Safari, Silph, Blaine, Sabrina, Giovani. I thought this order would be best despite having to backtrack a little bit to pick up Strength. Everybody except Lorelei once and Final Rival were first try wins.
Edit: Had to reset on Rival 6 and used 9 rare candies to beat him. Probably should have tried less, but it worked and I ended with great time.
@@critik_l Gen 1 Nidoking has always been disgusting for single-player runs. Imo the fact that speedrunners use it as their pokemon of choice is a testament to how good it is!
I also did a nidoking run last week and was alot of fun. Love me some Nidoking. My first game of blue in 20 years so was very suboptimal, but i know it won't touch mewtwo. Minimum battles after brock though is deffenently possible.
I remember being SUPER hyped when Nidoking got sheer force in gen5, as i was already ripping teams apart in gen4 compeditive with the king.
well he's not gonna dethrone mewtwo cuz he was able to get the mewtwo run under 2 hours optimally
@@olivernguyen1709 speedrunners use x accuracy and horn drill for e-4 and champion though, would be harder for jrose with no items, still would be a solid time though im sure
I think Blastoise would've been a better starter to choose for the rival, as Blastoise is resistant to ice type moves being a water type and Gyarados is out of the picture, you still have Arcanine that...does have Ember which is weaker than Fire Blast or Fire Spin to be fair, but Charizard is weak to ice type moves as well which means if you hit, it'll be a one shot on Charizard
Your one of the certified ogs of UA-cam solo runs...thanks for all the dope videos bud
I wish JRose could post EVERYDAY! 😂 I look so forward to these videos it’s the only subscription I have that I care about anymore 😂
Personally i believe ice should still be neutral against fire. When ice melts, it becomes water, and water is super effective, so even if ice is not very effective, it turning into water balances it out to neutral damage.
Fire should still be super effective against ice, because now youre melting the pokemon itself, not its attacks, and melting a living creature would be quite painful..
also throwing a rock of ice at a fire lizzar would still hurt it, ice is hard
@@verdibyrd my thought is that the innate heat of fire type pokemon would melt a large portion of any ice type attack, so theyd be getting hit with slush mostly, which is basically half ice half water, the ice part wont do much but the water would, since fire type. Now if we assume its magical ice that doesnt melt, then yeah its basically just cold rocks which rock is super effective so cold rocks should be too lol.
@Sniper i still think it should be neutral effective, since it wont be 100% water, and the non water parts wont do much. I think it would be more slush than pure water, and from a gameplay perspective neutral is better. Dont need to give ice a 6th super effective type coverage lol.
after trying to clear my snowy driveway with a propane flamethrower two winters ago, I've realized how ineffective fire is against ice
And I think Ice should be super effective on Water or at least resist it. Water turns into ice when frozen, which gets rid of its liquid properties and essentially assimilates it. Heck, Freeze Dry exists so it’s not like they’re unaware. Most Water types rely on liquid to the point of needing it to move around, it makes zero sense that they would be strong against something that robs them of their primary movement option.
And unlike Fire which was absolute trash and needed a buff in Gen 1, Water has always been a pretty OP type. Not as much as Dragon or Fairy, but still: Only two weaknesses, one of which Water types get free coverage for (because they can all learn Ice moves) and both of which were special types (so Water types with great special bulk like Milotic essentially had no weaknesses because neutral physical moves would do more than moves that were actually super effective), Surf as a free 95 BP STAB move (and Waterfall as a great physical equivalent after the split) that can be taught as many times as you wish and later on, they even got stuff like Scald so the Water types can freaking burn you too. One more weakness wouldn’t have hurt them and it would have solidified Ice as a high risk high reward type to use with high offensive effectiveness, but basically no defensive resistances.
Epic
You deserve an easier run after all of the bull you've had to go through prior, my friend :) Great video as always.
Imagine telling your 7 year old self you would be watching some maniac playing through these games with one Pokémon each time on your 60+ inch HD TV sipping a beer and it being the highlight of your week
I don't know if you'd still be able to get the times for the past runs, but have you considered a separate "post brock" list? Not skipping him, but seeing who has the fastest times from then on?
Would be a strange list Abra would be top easy since he gets past Brock at around level 30 giving it an advantage. All Pokémon who breeze past Brock would have longer times due to being way lower level.
Just redo every run but with water gun hacked onto every pokemon
Then you'll get a consistent post Brock time
The problem with the Brock split in solo runs is the game's assumption that a large majority of these Pokemon won't be usable until they are met at higher levels and thus have different moves. The lowest level Jynx you can get is like level 12 from the Poliwhirl trade, and that means only leveling up 6 levels to beat Brock for this video. Additionally, a lot of non-first stage Pokemon don't learn any moves until like level 30. If there were a fair way to balance move learning under the assumption all Pokemon were found at level 5, the Brock split would be more fair and the quality of the Pokemon would be judged more objectively. That being said, it can still be considered objective within the confines of this game. My point is that Brock and the original starters are designed in tandem. All 3 get a move that helps them beat him pretty early on, but most Pokemon do not.
Two problems:
1. He'd have to start from scratch
2. it'd be difficult to work out what moves they should or shouldn't have and there's a general lack of low damage early game moves for certain types. You aren't expected to have an ice type before mid-game so the weakest move is Aurora Beam, which is substantially stronger than moves like Ember and Vine Whip you would expect to have around Brock.
I think this Gen I specific issue makes FRLG runs interesting comparisons. For example, in FRLG Jynx would have powder snow immediately.
Yea the jynx you can get from the trade is also expected to be gotten after going through diglet cave
@@StealthNinja4577 not mention the revved up XP from being a trade Pokémon. As for turning every Pokémon into a potential starter, I’d say they addressed this issue by creating baby Pokémon, like they did with Jynx in later generations
@@wilhelmisaac yea I kinda like the original cause they didn't think about all this stuff and it left room for fun challenges.
@@StealthNinja4577 very true. Early era video games really felt like they were made for the sake of being made more than for profit. They’re objectively flawed, but they’re made with love and imagination. Gen 1 in particular is a beautiful disaster of code, but it gives it such a distinct character that makes the actual gameplay far more memorable than later generations
Great to have a new video on my birthday! Thanks J Rose, a scyther or porygon run would be pretty cool!
Nice video! Looking forward to rhydon when you get round to it!
I just thought the ultimate end to these videos would be for Jrose to put himself in the games as a pokemon and now I need somebody to design a Jaybird with a rose ruff. I think he'd be grass and flying. Anyone got any thoughts?
JRose would be half Splash type and half Metronome type if he were a Pokémon and he'd win in under an hour somehow getting Horn Drill or Fissure every time.
I feel like the strategy side of Jrose would lend him to be a psychic type. And his sheer force of will to do challenge runs indicates fighting type. Thoughts?
@@keatonpost8970 I figured flying and grass due to the Jaybird and rose split, but I like your approach also. Psychic and fighting would be pretty solid in gen 1 I feel.
JRose as a bug-steel type with flash fire to give complete type immunity, because yeah.
@@TuffBaddi dude fighting type is garbage
So for anyone curious, trying this run with Jynx’s Gen 2 level up moveset wouldn’t have helped all that much in the early game.
It would get the additional benefit of Lick as a starting move, but its next attacking move would’ve been Powder Snow. . . which doesn’t exist in Gen 1
You also likely would’ve needed the levels in order to rank enough hits, but I don’t know
This is the best video I have ever seen!!! You are killing it bro!!!!!!!
Usually i really don’t like the fishing for subs, likes and comment, yours was awesome implemented and didnt hurt the Flow of the Video so Great Job on that, if i wasnt already subscribed i would be now
The change is the color pallet. The battle UI is colored differently.
I don't think it is. At least not on purpose. He said its the jynx sprite
it'd be really nice to have a seperate 'brock excluded' tier or a 'real time commitment' tier cause it's more than a little weird that the mon that basically godstomped the entire rest of the game still ended up in the same tier as friggin bellsprout and other first evos lol. just kind of turns into misleading tiers
I am in anticipation to watch this JRose… I was watching several other runs I didn’t remember the ends to last night. Literally re-watching these and I have never played a Pokémon game besides Snap!
I don't know why but it feels like the last video was 3 years ago and I had withdrawal symptoms. Glad to spend some time listening to this!
About the minor change, Lorelei's jynx definitely looked better!
Hey jrose like the creative you managed to ask for people to subscribe. I know you mentioned this a few videos back but it's a great way to be funny and show your personality:). Keep up the good work
Woo! Ive been waiting for this one, it was a fun one to do
yessss love it when jrose uploads
Wow a 24 minute Jrose video! Haven't seen one This short since Gengar. Can't wait to see how good Jynx was!!!
I remember seeing on your twitch one day months ago, how you were a little burnt out ( totally get it) and how you really didn’t want to keep uploading these videos and I thought we wouldn’t be getting more. But damn we are in a golden age now, and the videos keep coming and you Sound happy! Keep it up!
Literally love JRose videos. My favorite UA-camr and enjoy watching him play Mario on twitch
I think you get 5 views alone from me every video. I watch these as im falling asleep and i end up sleeping through it all. But i make sure i watch from where I remember and do end up watching it all after a couple nights! Thank you for your wonderful content :)
Jynx is always one of my favorite Pokemon, and feel like it's often too underrated.
Love the channel
Seeing a new jrose11 vid being posted always puts a smile on my face 🙏
that subscribe click with kadabra was nice. i always respect when creators find unique ways to ask if you are subscribed rather than straight up doing it. it shows me you care and aren't arbitrarily like everyone else.
I'm loving the background music during the battles! a nice difference from the classic battle music