How Did Voldemort Create His Rudimentary Body
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And this, all this, is exactly why we need a Tom Riddle/Voldemort movie (series), to see how he did it. Not only the horcruxes, but everything else too. The dark path he followed etc... I think that HP fans would love a more adult, and dark movie to see how Tom became who he is. I hope that, one day, we'll know.
Laurent de backer i think MovieFlame is making an animated one
@@chloe-uf4yk Oh nice! I will be looking out for that!
JK Rowling will never reveal how Horcruxes are made. And I support that decision. Because it is not hard to imagine that someone out there will try it and will murder someone all because of an obsession with a fictional story.
I’m asking is for that it comes next to Harry Potter. Blood Connect to him
@@DBLCreations No he put that on the shelf for a bit.
Voldemort:I have pushed through all kinds of magic am immortal
Also voldemort:*dies at 72*
And 13 years of those were spent as a helpless spirit/baby. The juice doesn’t seem to be worth the squeeze at this point...
@@alexman378 Yeah that's true😂😂
So basically he lived for 58 years as 13 of those were living in a disembodied form
@Demz_ _Gamerz no im talking bout his whole livespan including when he turned into a spirit cause he was very much alive
I find it funny that if he had not made horcruxes, he could have lived a lot longer, considering that Dumbledore lived to like 115 years old.
"Look he's just not solid" lmao
That is seriously creepy. A child's body. I had never thought of that. I assumed that a homunculus had been created and an unknown spell needed to bind Voldemort to the body. But this makes more sense!
There was a theory somewhere that he used the unborn child of Bertha Jorkins as a host body, terrible if true!
I was going to comment on the same theory. I think it might have been from Super Carlin Brothers.
I was going to comment this as well! I came across it in a fanfic and I love how twisted and gruesome it fits into Voldemort's character. It'd even make some fucked up sense with how he was defeated by a baby, so returned as a baby, because he's just that extra
@@AustynSN Link to that video?
@@donkoogrr7506 Link to that fanfic?
@@dboymax1 I wish I could remember; I read so many. I know it was on Archive of Our Own, and it wasn't a major plot point, just a concept that stayed in my head.
Video idea: What happened to Fluffy after the first book? If you haven't done it already.
And his origin/life story
He was moved to Greece where he belongs
They send him to Asia and we eat him😂😂
@@ChamzChhangte LOL🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣
better one,
what happed to sir nick's ghost in chamber of secrets??
sure you can't feed mandarek potion to a ghost!!!!! 👻
Voldemort's rebirth is one of my favorite parts in the whole series.
Me too😂✌️
How is this man still making intresting videos on harry potter 😅😅😅
I mean dont you ever run out of ideas?
Good work tho...keep going!!
i dont understand why Voldemort's body had none of Wormtail when he used some of his genetic material. Voldemort shudda looked more Rat-like than Snake-like
Voldemort looked the way he did because of the Horcruxes
Colby Howard and because of spending so much time spent as a spirit possessing snakes, right?
Maybe too much Nagini venom can do that to ya
Guys were just talking about human flesh its just a flesh wound it'll get better 😆
@Melissa Waterman Most of it came from possesing snakes like @jenniifer Wettervik said. He already looks snake like in philosophers stone. it is basiscly the same as with wormtail who looks like a rat after living as one for 12 years. He didnt made horcruxes or got a new body like voldemort so that cant be it.
If only the directors, writers, etc. of the movies understood that the movie is in no way on a time budget, you could make a Harry Potter movie so long it makes Dances With Wolves seem like a Pixar animated short and people would still pack the theater seats and stand in a marathon-long line to the cinema doors
@He-Man the first movie sure since there wasnt an a story b story with a mystery c story baked into it but with the popularity of the series at the time why not do it justice.
Look at the inheritance cycle series.
Eragon movie sucked because the source material was so long they had to cut it down. but the books kicked ass. And they didnt get a sequel. Had they pulled a part 1 part 2 or extended it to lotr length film they wouldnt have had to rush and make a 528 Page book into a 1.5hr movie
Early books didnt have to much in length with about 200-300 pages the same cannot be said with the later hp books around 700 800 pages with To much material for a movie cover.
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You know how becoming an animagus takes like a year? It’s probably the same concept for a new body. Maybe it takes ten years to fully complete the magic and three for voldy to try to figure out how to do it
becoming a animagus takes about a month, if it goes well. you can have some problems and have to start over. but then it takes longer because you made mistakes.
Davy Regterschot I’d assume crafting a new body would be the same where it doesn’t take that long but you have 99 setbacks
Without mistakes and given a good storm, becoming an animagus is accomplished in a month.
@@moodyzah5368 not true. The mandrake leaf takes a month yes. Or from full moon to full moon. In that time you can already collect ghe other ingredients, dew and the cacoon of a dead head hawk moth. At the moment the second full moon comes you put everything together and put it away where no one can touch or see it.
No you wait for a lighting storm and till then you say the incantation every dusk and dawn. When lighting strikes you go to the potion and if all done righg it will be red. Now say the incantaion one last time and drink the potion. Boom you are an animagus.
So it takes four weaks for two full moons and the time for a lightning strike which can be anythime. So at shortest about 4 weaks if lucky and when unlucky it takes very long.
And about mistakes. If that counts then every potion can take a year to make. So we exclude mistakes.
It honestly does make sense that he didn't work on his rudimentary body and eventual rebirth plan until thirteen years after his initial defeat: because he couldn't. Before Quirrel found him in the forests of Albania, he was stuck possessing the bodies of wildlife, mainly snakes, and while being a parasite on the professor opted to go after the Philsopher's stone first, which clearly failed and sent him back to possessing wildlife until he was found by Petigrew (no other followers came looking for him, until Barty Jr was able to get free, and his own Horcrux in the diary was attempting to escape from the book, creating its own body via absorbing Ginny's life energies). Being stuck as a parasite with no assistance, he was incapable of creating a rudimentary form, and when he did have Quirrel he was too focused on the Stone.
DIRECTOR WHY DIDN'T YOU READ THE BOOK AND GIVE A DAMN!!! said calmly
Lol! I see what ya did there! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
who said calmly?
@@Liv-qi2fx in the GoF booj Dumbledore said to Harry calmly 'did you put your name in the goblet of fire' but in the film he angrily and loudly the same sentence. Both actor and director haven't read the book so had no clue how it went down.
@@lordshadow3822 ok, i get what you mean.
I remember that
Lol
There is something important I need to point out: PHOENIX'S AREN'T THE ENNEMIES OF THE NAGAS. The creature HPF is refering to is called GARUDA. He is an eagle-like sun bird that serves as Vishnu's mount. He is usually represented as either a giant bird or a human with bird features. He also happens to be the king of birds which is a title he shares with the Feng Huang who is often called the chinese phoenix. This creator MISCONSTRUED him for another mythological figure that he misconstrued for a phoenix.
Or perhaps I think pheonix might be somewhat related to Garuda atleast in western myths somehow
Hey stfu sit down and quit being a buzz kill! HPF said it was a Phoenix so it’s a Phoenix ok end of story
Palpatine: "The secret to cheating death is transferring one's essence into another and overshadowing the soul within and driving it out into oblivion"
Voldemort: *possess a child's body, but fails and requires snake and unicorn blood to temporary survive*
Sauron: "Pathetic!"
Wormtail made a potion which created a rudimentary body for Voldemort.
Omg He-Who-Must-Not-Be named has accessed the internet even the muggle world is no longer safe!!!!!!!
I actually noticed that when he was with quirrel, voldy had a nose and he was in pain, so I guess when Fred and George did the snowball thing.........
Lol😂 never thought about it
Lol 🤣 i knew it
In the movie, he had a nose. In the books, he didn't.
Neville : The witless wonder
(Barty Jr's word not mine)
Voldemort : the losing nose because of bewitched snowballs wonder
Hindu here, Nagins( Semi divine King Cobra species) are considered as "ikshadhari". Meaning they can change into a human form upon their wish. They are initially serpents and not the other way around as shown with Nagini. They pray to lord Shiva, their king being the giant serpent "Takshak". They live in "pataal Lok" meaning underground and they carry a "naag mani" sort of a preservation stone that can extend or grant life to mortals.
I'm surprised the Super Carlin brothers hadn't come out with this theory yet
They’ve been focusing more on Avatar lately.
They're annoying
Oh well HEY BROTHERRRRRRRR
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He needed Harry's blood to nullify his mother's protection....something like that.. It was in the book.
Its in the movie too
it ends up giving harry a better protection
@@samghanbarian4312 how?
@@harryk8264 Harry only survived because of that blood the blood of his mother which made the protection come back and that's why voldemort never ACTUALLY killed him
@Melissa Waterman oh
Voldemort closely resembles a lich, though a lich is considered an undead. There is something called a demilich which is where a lich loses it's power and is basically in a weaken stasis usually taking the form of a skull. Now usually for a demilich to return being a full lich they must feed souls to their phylactery or in Voldemort's case a Horcrux. Perhaps in a similar fashion the child possession theory makes a lot of sense plus that is one of the main ways to become a lich anyways, infanticide that's why becoming a lich is one of the darkest forms of magic stealing new life to extend another is a perversion of nature, and even then once that deed is done you must then technically commit suicide immediately in order to capture and conceal the torn part of the soul, this is highly dangerous failure only ends in death. Should the mage be successful though the torn part of their soul with be forced into the phylactery and the mage will rise as a lich.
He's most definitely Rowling's interpretation of a lich hell he even commands zombies(inferi).
Hopefully this man can get to 1 million subs by the end of 2021 he deserve it
Goblet of Fire is my favorite of the series...
Movie or book?
I enjoyed the book. The movie was okay, too. It was aiight.
XD BenVii movie
Mine too i love the story
How is it possible that Voldemort has his original wand after the rebirth? The moment he lost his body he should have left that in the Potter's house. This has always bothered me, how the hell Wormtail has it and can just casually give it to Voldy?
He went and retrieved it as soon as the dark lord died in Gordic’s Hollow. Wormtail used it to defend himself against Sirius, and kill 12 muggles, which was blamed on Sirius(that’s why he went to Azkaban).
Maybe he just… went there and picked it up?
He gave a hand to Voldemort(literally) surely a little trip wouldn’t have been a problem
@@chandanss4918 then he turned into a rat and couldn't carry it?
@@faithli2131 why would he take it? It acted as an evidence against Sirius.
@@chandanss4918 I'm not saying I thought he took it. I'm saying if the theory is correct that he took the wand after Voldemort's death, then he would have lost it surely when he became a rat, so he wouldn't have it with him at the graveyard scene. Was arguing against rather than for the point.
Given how secretive Voldimort was being. I almost think he would've used a recently deceased child's body. Not a living one. More a supposition on logistics. Still working out the mechanics
Mike Newell didn't have passion for the story at all and didn't read the book. I absolutely agree with that. He had turned it into rivalry with the previous directors and ego. So he had a bad attitude since day one. I liked some parts of the film. Soundtrack for example. I love the work that you do. It's absolutely phenomenal.
In what way did he feel he was getting one over on the previous directors by being lazy and not reading the original source material?
@@PeriodDrama He tried one upping the Prisoner Of Asskebab director
i was pretty sure that Nagini just birth him? like he was "stuck" in her body, and then she had a baby-Voldy?
More-or-less... Lol
Why are all this guys videos around 10 minutes when the videos question can be answered in 4 minutes
In the second book voldemort tried to sacrifice Ginny and make his horcurux come to life
This is true
The only thing missing was Voldemort’s red eyes
He was actually described as a Monster in the book. He missed a lot in the movies. I don’t really like the movies
I actually think Goblet of Fire is one of the best out of the movies. Sure, it has its problems (quite a lot of it), but I love the entire feeling the movie gives. From the first second to the last, you can truly feel the "transition", that this is the time the series REALLY starts getting serious. There's a constant underlying sensation of "impending doom" throughout the whole thing, and it's such a HUGE contrast from the first three that I can't help but love it. Considering what they had to work with, and the fact that it's the first one of the books to be so much longer, I'm actually very impressed with how well they managed to pull it off.
I think Bertha Jorkins might have been pregnant when she fell into Voldemorts hands. He then probably took over the body of Berthas unborn child once he was done torturing her. Or perhaps she wasn't pregnant yet, but Voldemort had Wormtail rape and impregnate her to create himself a rudimentary, child-like body.
i'd rather take a cruciatus curse than have wormtail rape me lol
That’s a horrible thought.
Christ, this is dark haha
@@theinvisiblewoman6783 Sure but its Voldemort would you really be surprised because I wouldn't.
@@emerther5843 I'd rather Wormtail than Greyback
Thank you for the great content man. Hope you are doing well in these tough times
Thanks a lot for your help Dean! Enjoyed the video!
Why am i binge watching all your videos, I’ve never even watched the movies or read the books😂 but tbh you make it sound really interesting!!
Your content is always superb, but you've really been knocking it out of the park this week! I'm enjoying your train of thought, and your theories add depth and further consideration to an already rich saga. You just keep getting better and better, Dean.
I wonder if horcruxes prevent aging. I mean, when you look at the way they're described, the 'death' of Voldemort via love protection, the rudimentary body potion being pretty much exclusively of use to disembodied - AKA horcruxed - wizards and all that, it seems to me like horcruxes only 'tether' your soul to the material plane, rather than give you actual physical immortality.
So, assuming Tom didn't go spectator mode after trying to kill Harry, I'm thinking that his body would still age and eventually fail him - forcing him to use the rudimentary body and regeneration potions. Perhaps that body would wear off too after a while, forcing him to repeat the process? Maybe at some point he'd try creating/stealing a philosopher's stone to sustain his regenerated body with an elixir of life or start breeding unicorns for blood?
Or is it that he is only vulnerable to death by Avada Kedavra because it yeets his soul from his body, with the physical death being pretty much an intended side effect, rather than the actual intended spell effect? If that's the case, and his soul got fragmented by the yeet, isn't he technically a lesser immortal, than a wizard with just one or two horcruxes, as it was stated, that his soul got way too unstable after the creation of the 4th horcrux and the instability caused the soul to get split again when the Killing Curse rebounded?
Also, why didn't he just use that Secret Keeper charm to keep one horcrux safe, with himself as the only Keeper, since technically he cannot really die, as the secret is stored in the soul and the spell stops working - I presume - when the soul moves on? Unless it's about the soul leaving the mortal plane, in that case why not use the spell on one of the horcruxes rather than your main soul?
Genuinely don't know how all these questions and speculations appeared in my head after thinking whether horcruxes prevent aging, but uh... You got to the end. Thank you for listening to my TomTalk.
I believe they prevent aging, look at the diary. It was 16 year old Tom, not a 72 year old Voldy. But that's just what I think
@@tylorabdnor5562 Yeah but it was how the splinter of a soul looked, not his main body.
And it's tough to tell if his main body aged, because he sorta 'mutated' due to side effects of serial soul-splitting, so we can't be sure either way - it could be all the changes were due to the splits and he had eternal youth, it could be that the changes practically masked and blended with the changes from aging.
There's just not enough info out there on horcruxes. Just the name of the inventor and Voldi, who's an outlier rather than an example, due to the several horcruxes he made.
@@MrKoraboras Good point
When I first watched the cemetery scene I got a horrible earache when Voldemort got resurrected and throughout the whole scene it scared the crap of me because it felt like he doing that to me through the scene
See, my exams again started but I couldn't learn to ignore the "whys " and "whatifs" of Harry Potter (via Harry Potter Folklore)
Excellent video, Dean!!!
Watching these videos every night now..hope i wont run out,
Nice and interesting..Good job👍🏻
Love your channel! Massive fan!
Brilliantly done dean
This theory sounds likely as they could obliviate the child's mind leaving it a blank slate to use (like a Flesh Golem).
Flesh golem is a terrible phrase but I like it lmao
Love the vid can't wait for the next one keep it up
Love the vids man keep it up
Hey Dean great video mate I love your channel have a good one cuz.
Nice video! Can’t wait for riddle an animated story 😄
Fantastic video as always
“Blood of the enemy forcibly”. I always wondered why he didn’t have worm tail bite Dumbledore or Harry while he was a rat
Like I said before, in Hindu mythology its not the phoenix but Garuda’s thats the enemy to the nagas; and think those would b Indian phoenixes in Harry Potter universe. While others may not like The Goblet of Fire, but I did and my favorite part was the 2nd task along with the merpeople 🧜🏻♀️🧜🏻♂️, their tails swim sideways opposed to the usual up and down is differently new for movies.
Like a shark
Yeah, I just don't understand why the whole school was out there just watching the surface of the lake
"DIDYAPUTYERNAMEINDAGOBLETOFEYAAH" Dumbledore asked calmly.
Love your videos😄
Awesome content!
I’m surprised that the spell even accepted wormstail hand, given that he was only serving out of fear. And why couldn’t he pull the other pieces of his soul out of the horcruxes he already made.
Because it's impossible to remove the soul fragments from within the horcruxes. the only way to repair the soul if split is to feel remorse which would destroy the person in question as the soul repairs so it's a no go from tom riddle
Rob Cotton So when u say “repair” does that mean he can get new pieces of a soul. U can only have one soul. It would make more sense that his old soul would come back to him. No one truly knows if it’s impossible because it hasn’t been tried before.
Awesome video
I think quirrell told him how to do it but died before they actually do it and he had to wait until he found someone he could trust to actually put it into action
You were right when you said this month is some of your best work.
Whooooot love your videos 🤘🤘
I think he didn’t use The rudimentary body because he didn’t have a follower. He had to wait until Peter Pettigrew seek him out. He said none of his followers went looking for him
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What happened to Voldemort at Godric's hollow. What is his mental state during the moments after attempting to kill harry. He didn't just say "Oh jeez I failed to kill a toddler...I'll just go to a hide in an eastern European forest for a long time". What do you think?
Your voice is so relaxing 🤤
Love that head stroke he does, Baldy Voldy
My friend you should do an HP read along for us that would be so cool I enjoy your videos they are very informative thank you
What if ideas
What if lily survived (but she was pregnant with harrys younger sister/brother)
What if petuna still had a good relationship with lily when she died (they ended up making up for everything and loved each other at the end)
What if Petunia married a wizard
What if dumbledore took in harry
The series has so many inconsistencies but it's still amazing. When they started apparition I wanted to scream.
The V man used an atomizer to transform the atoms. The atoms that are already there into the atoms of exactly what he wished for, in this case his rudimentary body.
Maybe Voldemort's ghost/spirit was combined with the same sort of potion used in GoF to make the initial baby Voldemort. And then they just used it again to 'upgrade' Voldemort to his final form.
about the Nagini stuff the natural enemy being a phoenix may be why the name of the order is "The Order of The Poenix"
Lucius: hey draco you have a new baby.
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I love this take on Voldemort. Good analysis!!
I always assumed he took over the body of an elf. It resembles a house elf more than it does a child
Consider this.......It took time for Voldemort to find a body, yes an child's body that he could invade. It was like from a very poor family, living in a remote region.
We saw that Voldemort had very few followers still loyal to him. Many of his past deatheaters lieutenants has gone on to have families and lucrative lives of their own, using the fear of the Darklord as leverage.
Wormtail was different. He had nothing, having barely escaped the wrath of his former Marauder friends over the betrayal of James and Lily. Voldemort was his only santuary. Peter, along with Crouch,Jr., researched and studied dark arts texts and scrolls for any restoration rituals until they found the one they needed. It would take time to prepare the cauldron, find all the needed ingredients to brew the potion, then find a location to have the ritual of restoration. All of this took years of living in shadows to do. The public believing the Darklord to be dead also helped in their secrecy.
Seems Peter and Barty Jr were his most loyal followers then...
Nice vid
In the book it's mentioned that he also greatly feared Dumbledore, but his blood would've probably been too hard to obtain.
I’m early but that’s because I haven’t stopped watching you in 48 hours
Goblet of fire is my second favourite HP movie. No idea why, but the rebirth scene is probably why
Its clear that its not just a child's body, but his mist form possessed an unborn fetus to then develop into flesh and blood within a most likely captive's womb.
Never been this early yeet
Me too
thats what she said
@@aniketsawant2240 Or he
Me three
What if Voldemort had a dementor perform its kiss on a child, then took over the body?
I have a theory that Nagini's venom is a powerful blood thinner and anti clotting agent like some heart medications. Its why Arthur weasley's wounds wouldnt stop bleeding and it kept Voldemorts rudimentary heart working.
it was mentioned either in goblet of fire or another book he survived after quirrel died by entering the bodies of various animals. it is possible while in one of these he drank the potion of unicorn blood and venom and it morphed into "baby voldy" or if there had been anything left of his body from godrics hollow it could have been added to the mix (after all someone did retrive his wand) which is why he looked the same (or near to it) as he did before.
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Been flipping through all of your videos and it wouldn't suprise me if his rudimentary body was a homunculus.
I absolutely loved the goblet of fire lol
Apparently instead of Voldemort taking a little Childs body apparently it was Bertha bagshots unborn baby that’s why when it was released to the public that once J.K said to the director how it happened they were sick
I still think his body was exactly like that before he got destroyed by Harry. And yes he got that with time.
Fun thing is he tried this in first movie (if he got the stone) but failed. In the second he would have came back like this too if Ginny died and Harry didnt destroy the horcrux. In third movie he was still planning to the 4th movie attemp, I guess time helped him that time
Idea for next video: If Petunia was also show signs of magic and goes to Hogwarts
please do part 2 of what if harry potter in the graveyard
How did Voldemort not realises from the first book or movie that snape was never on his side when he was on the back of Quirinus Quirrell head
Snape was a master of the power of occlumency.
@@johnking5174 but even then could Quirinus just have been hey watch out for this guy or could Voldemort not just got someone to take care of snape
I thought his body was live born of Nagini, maybe I read that into it.
I mean..... that'd be really cool
I was thinking she is human or was and maybe at a cellular level she still is. Any young she would produce could come out humanoid.
I believe the fact they are doing this at the Little Hangleton Graveyard is more telling than you realize.
I don't believe they used a child (and not because he wouldn't do it. I entirely believe he would), but rather a Frankenstein style body hodge-podged together from corpses.
The rebirth ritual would still need to be done to regain his strength, but this makes more sense to me than finding a random(?) child and drawing attention to his actions
Great video. I do have a question, In Deathly Hallows Part 2, do you think Ron tried using the Killing Curse on Nagini just before Neville killed her?
Yes he did
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He probably possessed a small animal like he said he did prior. And combined with the Nagini/unicorn blood potion, it gave him a small human-esque form
I was always under the impression that Nagini gave birth to him.
What if Voldemort attended durmstang instead of hogwarts would he still be tied to Harry and the prophecy