I don't think she was aware that it contained Voldermort's soul. She was scared because she realized she was being possessed and she linked it to the diary.
@@kashoncomment6151 it was but he didnt make the crux using his dads murder till later on. Awhile after he actually killed him. Or at least that's what I have gathered
I don't think he's dead. I just think he can't come back. It's almost like he cursed himself so much that he has to experience his worst nightmare. Existing but not being able to do anything at all, no hope for dominion ever again.
“Do not pity the dead, Harry. Pity the living and, above else, those who live without love!” This is the reason I don’t fear death, or even view it as a punishment. Death is inevitable and a natural part of life. My biggest fear is to be unloved, to live an unhappy life without friends and family, where nobody will miss or mourn me when I die. The meaning of life is to do something meaningful. You don’t need to win an Oscar or the Nobel Prize, just do something nice for someone important to you and try to make your life the best it can possibly be!
Death is only physical. The Soul is NOT physical and therefore it doesnt die. The soul is energy and energy is INDESTRUCTIBLE, God's greatest gift. And dont put friends before family
So he's kinda like Sauron in Lord of the Rings, not dead, but so completely diminished that it is impossible to return to the living plane and so mutilated that it is impossible to crossover. Terrible fate, but deserved.
Yes their fates are very similar both of them put a part of their being in an object which bound them to the living plane and when those objects were destroyed both of them were banished.
Kai King-Blow I think that his fate is most akin to Melkor’s fate. Cast away into the void, diminished and powerless, but unlike Melkor he is never to return, but most of Melkor’s essence exists as Arda is said to be Melkor’s ring/horcrux
@@marianotorres9768 First off lemme say Yay another Tolkien fan who knows about Melkor! Second, and correct me if I'm wrong, Melkor was simply defeated, humiliated and restrained before being cast through the door of night. Defeated but not diminished and capable of returning according to Mandos' prophecy. Now you're totally on point with much of Melkor remaining in Arda, but I think Samuel Drejby has the right of it because Sauron's maya spirit is stuck in middle earth, unable to die, unable to move on, and incapable of reclaiming his power. When you think about it it's pretty effed up, to go from nearly omnipotent to just impotent.
I think he would have definitely been cremated. We know that magic can require bones (when Voldemort used his father’s to get a human form again) and no one would want to risk a future dark wizard having the power of Voldemort by using his bones
In the books Voldermort had an ordinary death. This was, I think, the final insult. Voldermort despised the idea that anything associated to him could be ordinary. In the movie, though disintegrating was visually satisfying, it was the opposite of what the original author wanted. It was an extraordinary death.
I absolutely dug Dumbledore’s other line during the Ministry battle with Voldemort... “I must admit that merely taking your life would not satisfy me...”
I wonder if Dumbledore felt sorry for Voldemort after what happened to him. Don't get me wrong, he knew Voldemort had it coming. But that doesn't mean he couldn't at least pity his former student.
@@cashthecurator666 hmmm maybe he does because Voldy never experienced love, if someone took the time to care for him to love him imagine how different the story would be
@@dariya4661 Lmao there would likely be no story. Although psychopaths are born as psychopaths and nurture either worsens or lessens it, so who knows. He might not have been as evil as he was in canon though.
I love how even though voldemort caused harry so much pain he still tried to help voldemort by telling him to feel some remorse due to knowing what will happen to him if he doesn't
@@enderreaper1482 It may not be a good comparison, but most religions believe that everyone can be redeemed, no matter what they did. But someone like Voldermort would need to do A LOT to be redeemed. I guess at least feeling remorse is better than not trying to save your soul at all.
Also on the book the book of the darkest art said that if a person who made a horcrux felt remorse the soul would be repaired but it would be so painful that it would of killed him
Daniel Fahd Ikr! I really think they could have made the book death really work in the final film, instead of having the one we have now. This is my idea: "The final Horcrux is destroyed, Harry looks back to Voldemort. Nothing has happened to him yet. He raises his wand in one last ditch effort. Harry raises his wand as well, and the dual is back on. And this time, Harry is winning. His magic is beating his to a pulp, and Voldemort's is diminishing. He no longer has the strength to carry on. Then he clutches his heart as if he had just had a heart attack, and Harry then uses Expelleirmus, and the Elder Wand whips into the air in slow motion, and lands in his hand. And Voldemort collapses to the ground, the camera is panned on his hand falling to it in slow motion. Thus Harry had two wands in his hand, and was staring down at Voldemort's body, his eyes unknowing and vacant, and the camera then rises to see the sun rise seeping into the now ruined Hogwarts Castle, signaling a new dawn for the Wizarding World." I know that wasn't in screenplay format, but I wasn't sure if I could have done it here. But that's my take on it. :)
The final battle with Voldemort in the book and the entire chapter is one of the coolest things I’ve ever read. The movie’s ending sucked. “The flaw in the plan” was absolutely fantastic and perfect and the fact that it ended in the Great Hall in front of a large group of wizards and witches who he’d tormented and terrorised was exactly the way it should have ended. The movie ending was stupid. I don’t know why they changed it or why JK allowed it
Fredrick Unverzagt I agree. The film should've ended quite similarly to the way it was in the novel. But personally, I think as a stand alone conclusion to a film series (if you ignore the books entirely which is really hard to do lol), it is a pretty satisfying end to him. But In the context of it being based off the final book in a long running (amazing) series, it's not as faithfully adapted as it should have been. :)
I think Voldemort is buried in Hogwarts maybe in the Chamber of Secrets because Harry knows Hogwarts is a place where Tom called home. I also think Harry will hold a funeral for Voldemort even no one would want to come. because Harry isn't the type hold on grudges of a dead person. Harry and Tom have a lot in common because a part of his soul is in Harry. Voldemort already had a really huge impact on Harry's life from killing Harry's parents to Harry and his gang destroy his horcruxes. The way Harry acts and thinks would be much different if he isn't the chosen one.
This is the most beautiful comment i read today😭😭😭I agree with you.I also believe Voldemort went on and he did not stay in limbo well that is the good thing with literature you can believe like whatever.He died so he can go on
I have a headcanon that when Tom left Wool’s Orphanage he enchanted his room to hunt the next child that was given his room drawing the child into insanity.
@@billyrafferty4656 Don't tell me you only watch the films... Plz read. The book didn't mention Voldemort was turn into ashes. It was only for the cinematic effect. 😑
From what it was told apparently regretting doesn’t work after the death of someone who made horcruxes . So I guess he is doomed for eternal suffering and his consciousness would gradually cease to exist
It horrifies me that Tom feared death so much that he committed such terrible acts of Dark Magic to achieve immortality, and make himself have a fate truly worst than death in the long run when he was finally defeated at The Battle of Hogwarts. I have never feared death, for to me, as Dumbledore once said: After all, to the well- organized mind, Death is but the next great adventure". But if I ever did (if I lived in the Wizarding World), I would never do such things to try to escape it. :)
I can't help but feel some double feeling when it comes to Voldemort. I don't acquite his behavior, but he was born without love, nor with an understanding of that concept. To me it feels like he had no choice but to become what he became.
I agree with most of this. Voldemort, although he would have tried, wouldn't have had the ability to remain as a ghost. But the piece we see in the King's Cross chapter is NOT the piece that was bound to Harry. It was the eighth of Voldemort's soul that was bound to his own body. The Master Fragment, if you will. Rowling did not confirm that this was the piece attached to Harry, she stated unequivocally, through the exposition of Dumbledore, that the Harry Fragment was destroyed when Voldemort attempted to use the Killing Curse on Harry in the forest. The entire Prince's Tale chapter was set up to tell this tale. Soul fragments placed in Horcruxes do not "pass on" or even go to Limbo when the Horcrux is destroyed, they are destroyed with it, leaving the Master Fragment even more diminished and permanently mutilated. Voldemort didn't die at this stage because he had one Horcrux still remaining. (Nagini.) It wasn't destroyed until after he regained consciousness. Harry's encouragement to try for some remorse was by this stage, pointless.
@@friendusesthisaccountnocom9928 limbo is kinda like the between realm from Earth and the afterlife(hell heaven and all that). I won't call it a purgatory as that is just the place where neutral people are cleared of their sins to reach heaven in Christian mythology.limbo is a place you'll probably never leave there is nothing there for you just a formless abyss of chaos.
@@cockatoo010 Agreed. I always thought they didn't bother with burying Voldemort. He didn't deserve that dignity after all he did. Or maybe they threw him into the lake.
I think he was cremated and his ashes scattered. So that there would be no place for anyone to go to build a shrine. As for his soul I think that he will remain in that purgatory in agonizing pain for all time. It is what he deserves. He had such a desire to live that he was willing to split his soul to accomplish that. However he had no concept of love which is what makes life worth living and he placed no value on the lives of others.
I honestly would have loved to see him marked next to his father as "Tom Marvollo Riddle Jr. Half Blood." To address his death by the name he hated the most (aside from dumbledore) and the shame of not being pureblood.
Palpatine :takes control of a whole galaxy Scar(lion king): Takes control of a whole kingdom Thanos: Kills half the universe Voldermort: fails to kill a teenager
The idea of Voldemort being buried in a mass grave with the other Death Eaters is interesting. No special burial, no grand tomb, just a nameless pit. It’s just what he feared the most.
I believe he's still around. Here is how I understand Horcruxes (something I came to in my own writing, though my version of the idea is different and doesn't require murder or any other heinous act to be performed. The magic of my fantasy universe is different than Harry Potter, but it does have some similarities. A particular type of sorcerer, the lich, is known for doing this sort of thing. They become effectively immortal, tying themselves to some sort of object or other thing that lets them transfer their spirit into a new body if their current form is destroyed) 1. A Horcrux is made by taking the soul and ripping it apart. The method for doing this in their world is committing an act of murder. (In my story, all magic involves taking some of one's spirit and converting it into another type of energy. Done a certain way, usually involving blood or flesh of the caster, you can make an object along the lines of a Horcrux, that your soul is tied to). one then takes a piece of that soul and sticks it into an object, That object then is bound to the person who made the horcrux, meaning that as long as the object retains its integrity, you will live on, even if your body is destroyed. 2. That suggests that the soul, while split, is not entirely cut off from itself. The shards are still connected together into one being, one soul, but they've been stretched out and anchored to another object, something that shouldn't be possible in Harry Potter without breaking the soul's cohesion, something that can only be done by an act of true evil, such as murder. 3. What 2 ultimately means is that Voldemort's soul is still whole (much like how a lich's soul is still whole, but stretched between the body they occupy and the object that they have turned into a vessel for their soul), but it is split and stretched apart into all of the various shards he created. Those shards are in different places in Limbo. They still exist, because the soul cannot truly be destroyed, but they are no longer anchored to the living world, and because the soul is not whole, it cannot pass on to the afterlife. This is both the mechanism that makes the horcrux work as a means of immortality, but also what causes the soul to be trapped in Limbo if the Horcrux is destroyed and the parts of the soul are not reunited. By exploiting the anchor to the living world (much like how Voldemort did when he tried to possess Harry), the disembodied soul of a dark wizard can find themseves a new vessel or build a new body. But with no anchor, the soul will try to go to its true home: the spirit world. But because it is broken, it can't, I guess "board the train", and so until it works out what caused its breakage, it can never pass on. It's likely the same thing that happens to ghosts, only somewhat worse, because even that ghastly imprint on the world is gone. 4. If one could bring a shard of Voldemort back from Limbo and anchor it to the physical world, it would be possible to resurrect him. But the problem is finding him there, considering that Limbo is so huge. I think there is a way to do it. And it involves Harry. You see, while Harry lost the shard of the Dark Lord when Voldemort tried to kill him, that doesn't mean the connection is completely severed. Their spirits have intermingled. Harry's blood ran through the dark lord's veins. There is still a little voldemort in Harry, just not enough for the dark lord to use him as an anchor to the world. When Harry goes to Limbo, he will always see Voldemort there, as that bizarre little creature, because, fundamentally, their doors to the afterlife, to death, have been tied together. This means it may be possible to drag that shard out of Limbo through Harry, or possibly even turn Harry into a vessel for Lord Voldemort, assuming you could suppress Harry's will, or even take his soul out of the picture altogether without killing him. Of course, doing so would, I imagine, be very difficult. There are very few wizards skilled enough to do it (Dumbledore or Grindlewald could have pulled i t off, maybe, but they're dead), and even fewer who would desire to do so. Most of the wizards that served Voldemort fled after his defeat, and they're certainly not going to risk themselves by trying to go after Harry again.
@@thomasjones6216 probably not. Voldemort's soul is broken. He can't go on. But Harry's death will probably be the final nail in the coffin, trapping Tom forever. With Harry dead, it will not be feasible for someone to pull Tom back to this world. At least assuming creating a new rudimentary body won't have that effect.
What if voldemorts soul was left in his body Unable to control himself and in extreme pain, unable to feel happy He would be feeling all the pain that he caused other people, both the people he killed and the family’s and friends of the people he killed This pain would never go away So at this point, he may finally feel remorse and guilt for his actions
5:14 I think it was stated somewhere that the process was nearly unbearable for ONE horcrux, that he wouldn´t be able to withstand the pain because his soul was, not broken, but shattered.
yeah, remember Ganondorf was sealed under hyrule in BotW2, how did that end up for Hyrule? burn him until even his ashes are burned, I rather burn him than him coming back by some kind of wizard necromancy crap
@@applenewmoon4402 Dude, when I read Spider's comment I literally pictured J.K. "Just Kidding" Rowling tweeting some shit about Voldie becoming a black woman in Limbo and trying to heal his soul through bisexual orgies with Native American spirits. Cuz ya know, everything is pro-diversity in Harry Potter if you retcon it hard enough.
If voldemort is in limbo then the movie death would be a physical representation of that. Or the movie version shows that voldemort is nowhere yet he's everywhere. (thanks to the soul splitting not keeping him anywhere and the soul splitting not sending into hell).
i think that people would bury him in the little hanglton graveyard with his father, as this would not only Finnish what had all happened, but would be his final curse, to be buried with the father that he killed, the father he always hated, and and the tombstone, if the tombstone was marked at all, would read: tom riddle j.r. as he always hated the name and would be buried under it, always.
JKR said that Voldemort lives on in the afterlife as the stunted figure Harry saw in Limbo. It bears a striking resemblance to the feeble but repulsive body form Voldemort took in Goblet of Fire. Let's not forget Voldemort was knocked out as well when he threw the Killing Curse at Harry. What did he experience while he was unconscious?
I once envisioned that after the aftermath of the Battle Of Hogwarts, possibly even the day after, Harry would’ve charged himself with the duty of disposing Voldemort’s body. Taking Ron and Hermione (and possibly Neville, Ginny and Luna) along with him, they would’ve Disapparated to Little Hangleton, made their way toward the Riddle manor where there, under concealment charms cast by Hermione, in the graveyard where he was reborn, where he began the 2nd Wizarding War by killing Cedric, Tom Riddle’s body would be burned and his ashes poured into the grave of his Muggle family. A deserved resting place for the man who so hated his non magical heritage and feared death more than anything.
I believe his ashes were either thrown to the river near hogwarts, or scattered all over the world to avoid any fanatic or remaining death eater from making an altar of Lord Voldemort
@@ChilliBandits The Riddle family sucked themselves. Not that the Gaunts were any prize either. At least Frank Bryce would be posthumously acquitted. Seriously, why isn't his story mentioned on vanilla TV Tropes?
If the diary had become fully alive in the chamber of secrets, would his other active part join the revitalized Tom Riddle or could goblet of fire have happened also and there be 2 Voldamorts?
Would be interesting to see young Tom vs Old Voltimore!!!! Perhaps the different souls would join forces. Young Tom would becom ethe son to an old master?
Even if the diary could become full alive it's just 1/7 of a soul, just an horcrux. The primary "ghost/shadow" of voldemort would likely add the horcrux or use their body for the cauldron ritual to make himself stronger.
I feel kinda bad for him though, it's not his fault that he couldn't love as Tom and Merope didnt conceive out of love, but instead Tom was forced through a love potion and that was why Voldemort couldnt love, I know he still did terrible things, but I just feel like suffering constantly even after death FOREVER is too much
Z3nY he deserved it, bastard killed many innocent people, that’s like saying Hitler should not suffer for what he did, never feel bad for people like Voldemort or Hitler, people like that deserve what they get
@@JCardo2502 bruh Hitler and Voldemort are completely different. What I'm trying to say is that Voldemort wasn't conceived of love but of force and that had the magical effect that he now cannot feel love but only hatred, I don't feel any sympathy for Hitler at all
Z3nY yeah he was created from a love potion which was wrong but he was not forced to do the bad things he did he made that choice on his own and he could have chosen a different path and make the best of his situation and do some good he was after all very talented
Isis2013 i just thought of this. What if someone used a powerful love potion on voldemort himself? He physically couldn’t feel love so what would happen if someone made him magically feel love? Would he feel love from the potion or not? And if someone did use a love potion on him at a young age, before the horcruxes, do you think that the “fake” love he felt would have been enough to keep him from becoming evil and make him just like a normal guy?
I thik they would place his body in the chamber of secret's, remember after Voldemort killed the horkrux that lived inside harry he couldnt no longer speak with snakes but some how Ron learned how to do it so he could open the chamber.
I think Ron didn't learn it so much as just mimic the sounds he heard Harry make when speaking parsel tongue to open the chamber.. I used to be in a choir and learned through listening how to pronounce the latin words in songs, but still had no clue what I was saying in latin most of the time. I think Ron was similar, he memorized how the word in parseltongue to open the chamber was pronounced without learning or knowing the language .
This has actually really helped me to not be scared of death , which I’m sure scares basically every human being , otherwise you are most likely insane . Although death may seem horrible and unavoidable , it’s much better than being immortal , because there’s no escape , you will never truly be able to rest , knowing you have lived your best life. Death isn’t really like a long sleep , it’s just an eternal rest in which - wether we like it or not , we have to experience . That’s just life , and at least we’re not like Voldemort ....
The thing that I'm most curious about is the effect on having horcrux's and ageing. So although splitting your soul may prevent you from dieing conventionally, if Voldemort had survived what would his body be like when he reached 100 or worse still 200?
I completely understand your concerns about his grave being used as a meeting place, but I also think that burying him as “Tom Marvolo Riddle Jr” would be a much greater insult to him than leaving his grave unmarked.
@@drchilapastrosodrlasmacas438 You just disgraced Wormtail. Not that I likd him. He served Voldemort with giving him nagini's venom etc. Maybe you forgot this part or something. I only refrenced that Quote from Lt. Anderson. From quantic dream Detroit Become Human.
In a sense basically Tom is stuck in limbo and can not truly die he technically became what he thought he was immortal and invincible as no one could see, touch or hear him
He was once a wonderful student, handsome, and very talented guy; I don't feel sorry for him. He is the worst of the example to the slytherin house. I follow you at instagram. But yeah because of his eternal life it destroyed everything; his future, and his life. Great video. Keep doing what you're doing, they are awesome.
@@Fizzlepop72 he may be all that. But he is the worst example of a slytherin. Yes cunning and ambitious is correct but evil and ruthless isn't one of them. I don't think you can understand it but o well. He was the worst slytherins out there, he gave slytherins a bad name and a reputation that no one would ever but ever want to be a slytherin because of him, and you. I have a good example of s slytherin who isn't what you think. QUE MR. DRACO MALFOY. At the end he looked like he wanted to punch his dad for what he did and wanted to stand up for the school. But his dad the death little bastard good for nothing jerk made him come back like he is still a baby. But he is a good example. He was the best. If you don't go to life of Draco Malfoy you can understand him, and what a true and proud slytherin he is. Not like Tom who ruined the reputation and the name for turning into a monster.
@@jbracq2008 Literally incapable of love and left abandoned in an orphanage and at a young age starts to realize he has abilities that give him great power over others. Ya, that kid didn't have a fucking chance. I guess I feel a bit bad for child Tom, but it's a bit hard to feel bad for him by the time he's Voldemort
I think a lot of people would be too scared to even touch the corpse to move it. If they were scared of saying his name, I can’t imagine many volunteering to be his gravedigger. I don’t think much thought would have been put into which burial spot was most insulting or most deserving. I think people would have just wanted him gone in the easiest and quickest way possible. So I’d say cremation, like you suggested. Very unceremoniously, just burned like the trash he was
Here’s a plausible fan fiction. a follower works for department of Mysteries and studies the vail and find a way to go to limbo seeing his beloved master and?
we have seen that before in the end of the first movie and i think that his spirit would went straight into the chamber of secrets where his body would lie
@@soph301 if you think voldemort is toast think again he he back ups for back ups he just regaining strength and death eater can go back in time so I'm sure one of the will back and tells in what happens to him
@@3stooges242 unless that death eater is Thanos and click his fingers that is impossible. Voldemort soul is stuck in a place that is worst then death. and if he did came back as a ghost he wouldn't have a soul anymore and wouldn't be able to come back .
Or maybe he was cremated then what was left locked up in the Department of Mysteries, preferably where death itself is studied. There may be some future valuable information contained within. Or at the very least, continually guarded and watched over so some misguided soul or a sick and twisted one can never try to bring him back or transform themself into Voldemort.
I think a headstone with "Voldemort" on it should've been erected. The reasons being: ➡️ We should remember and learn from the past - no matter how horrific it may be - to avoid history repeating itself. ➡️ Having "Voldemort" inscribed shows use of his name is no longer feared.
Learning from his mistakes could simply lead to a dark lord that will actually succeed in the end though.Voldemort came so close,change a few things and he would be ruling the wizarding world,possibly eventually even the Muggle world
Worst place for him would have been buried in the muggle graveyard, right next to his muggle father. In the books it was made obvious that he wanted to be special. What's worse than treated like any other muggle?
Voldemort's soul/consciousness so very mulilated and cut down so he can’t completely pass on in the afterlife. However, in my head canon eventually there will be a dark wizard who will conjure a way to absorb that last piece of Voldemort and become the next big baddie.
I wonder if the Resurrection Stone would allow Voldemort to appear once more in a corporeal form, if that would even be possible for him at all after splitting his soul into so many pieces? It’d be an interesting idea for a story. After all, the Resurrection Stone is just waiting for someone else to come across it accidentally, and it could possibly allow Voldemort to basically become a ghost.
@Kuchi Kopi The Elder wand was destroyed in deathly hallows however, after harry used it to repair his own wand, (another important detail left out of the films
While the conundrum of what to do with it is a big one, the fact Voldemort left a corpse this time is important because it signified to the Wizarding World that it was truly over this time. And as someone mentioned before me, having his death be pretty ordinary would be the perfect final insult to him. All that effort to cheat death, and he still dies an unremarkable death and isn't even given a grave sight anyone would know, meant to be forgotten as any mass murderer should be.
Quick question, do you ever think Salazar slytherin would be proud of his great great great(whatever) grandson? Though Salazar did leave the basilix hoping for one day his children would purge the school of muggleborns, it still makes me wonder if he’d of agreed with his methods? When Hogwarts was made witch trials were very common and although no witch/wizard ever was burned(successfully) it can clearly demonstrate why Salazar would hate muggles and muggleborns. Would Salazar really approve of the mass murdering? There must of been some doubt, some remorse within him, because he did not seek to rule the wizard world. Although I can see him approving of grindewald.
I can't see him approving of Voldemort since he killed pure bloods also Salazar Slytherin would say screw the prophecy and kill him personally I believe it was Salazar Slytherin who created many of the spells Voldemort used including the unforgivables
Pink Lightning do you think so? Idk about the unforgivable curses but there is a chance. And kill him, himself? I highly doubt he’d be capable of that.
@@meurum2561 well Voldemort did many of his dark magic studies in a library built into the chamber and he likely took a few books with him when he left Hogwarts
I doubt Salzar Slytherin would've approved of either. Voldemort was a psychopathic killer incapable of loving others or caring about anyone who didn't inherently benefit him (he also enjoyed mental torture far more than physical), and Gellert Grindelwald wasn't even evil nor a pure-blood supremacist. Grindelwald just wanted the wizarding world to be free and went about it the wrong way; he didn't believe muggles/muggle-borns were inferior, nor did he torture unless he was angry and/or enjoy killing.
I can only imagine several years later at hogwarts a random 1/4 complete ghost face with no nose appears randomly taunting and insulting muggleborns as they run through the halls of hogwarts
Im terrified of dying and always have been simply because I don’t know what happens after. But if I was a witch that knew for a fact that coming back as a ghost was an option then it probably wouldn’t even phase me 🤷🏻♀️
Another words… and in short, Voldemort died and he’s soul went straight to Hell without the book directly saying Hell. That’s probably the fate that’s worse than death. In regards to his corpse, I agree that he would have most likely been cremated and he’s cremains disposed of in secret.
Here’s an idea for a video (if you’ve not done one already). What exactly happens to the soul of someone who has had the Dementors Kiss performed on them? Is it consumed and digested in some way? What would that be like? Is it transported somewhere else? Does it still exist in the Earthly plain and if that’s the case, with the soul bound to the living world, does that make the soulless shell of the unfortunate victim immortal, the same as if they had created a Horcrux? Worthy of discussion don’t you think?
I wondered that too. Harry should have been indestructible, however, Voldemort never said the enchantment required to make a horcrux, so maybe he was destructible.
At the end of World War II the dead Nazis were buried with unmarked Graves. Being as this book series takes parallels and inspiration from that War I imagine a lot of the Death Eaters and the dark lord himself were likely buried in unmarked Graves so as nobody would ever find them or try to pay them due respect. They were simply forgotten
Fragments of him exist in limbo but they are in constant agony and to weak to find the other parts he is in true hell every moment for eternity and it is all his own doing
Yay another great video. Thank you soo much Dean. I think Lord Voldemort is stuck between the living and death since he doesn't have a complete 'soul' to venture into any of the two worlds. That being said, it would be amusing to see him haunt Harry as a ghost.I need to look up fanfics like that now. Imagine the Dark Lord giving Harry advice on love as a ghost?
I wouldn't put it past the ministry to bring his body to the department of mysteries to try to unlock the mysteries of the horcrux process. The only thing that makes me think this probably didn't happen was the exhaustive chaos that would have affected just about everybody in the wizarding community at that point
Of course he exists. He's immortal. But immortality doesn't necessarily suggest health and prosperity. He's trapped between the two realms forever, conscious, yet unable to pass on. Mangled and soiled by dark magic of the foulest kind, he'll never know rest. Just the kind of fate he deserves.
I'd be interested to know if he has any awareness. That would certainly add to his suffering, knowing full well who and what he was and yet being trapped forever in the space between plains and in a pitiful form to boot. Now that I think about it, it seems to me that the form he appeared in there was almost the exact same as the one he inhabited when he initially returned to a physical body after Wormtail found him.
Hey @HarryPotterFolklore I think the idea of him being buried in an unmarked grave is actually I very interesting idea, because in life he was known as "he-who-must-not-be-named." Isn't it kind of fitting he would die as "he-who-shall-not-be-remembered?" I'm not saying that's what happened but it's certainly an interesting juxtaposition.
The unmarked and unknown grave idea really makes sense to me imo. Bury him somewhere he will never be found, and that means there's nothing for his loyal followers to worship. Without that, I'd wager that his ideals and ways amongst his followers would just die out given time.
*The fact that Ginny tried to flush part of Voldemort's soul down the toilet.*
aekarin borrirak I’ve been thinking about this for fifteen minutes
Ikr lol
She figured he was a shitty guy lol
I don't think she was aware that it contained Voldermort's soul. She was scared because she realized she was being possessed and she linked it to the diary.
Cozy lol
Probably buried with his father. A final insult. Being buried with the man he hates most and used for his first Horcrux.
Hexmaster23
That would be very disrespectful to his father, considering Voldemort murdered him
He made his first Horcrux killing Moaning Myrtle. His father has got nothing to do with that 😉
@@robertocarlos2934 ahat wasnt intentional. I thought his first murders was the riddles.
His father was one of the first at least.
@@kashoncomment6151 it was but he didnt make the crux using his dads murder till later on. Awhile after he actually killed him. Or at least that's what I have gathered
Some say he died. Codswallop, in my opinion. Dunno if he had enough human left in him to die.
Nice
Hexagon -Hagrid
epic level foreshadowing
Hexagon That quote from the Phlisophers Stone just became even more brilliant than it already was for me! :)
Hexagon I reckon he’s out there still. Too tired to carry on.
Please never stop these videos. And please keep the Harry Potter music
hey shaggy
Exactly
Correct
Lily's theme
like zoinks how..........
I don't think he's dead. I just think he can't come back. It's almost like he cursed himself so much that he has to experience his worst nightmare. Existing but not being able to do anything at all, no hope for dominion ever again.
That's just.... devastating.
@@ChrisPPotatoIDC Well, he brought it on himself
That’s exactly what I was thinking
Jakten Rockella I think.......whayeber was written the book.....you know?? the make believe one?? is what happened......wow
thats terrible
“Do not pity the dead, Harry. Pity the living and, above else, those who live without love!”
This is the reason I don’t fear death, or even view it as a punishment. Death is inevitable and a natural part of life. My biggest fear is to be unloved, to live an unhappy life without friends and family, where nobody will miss or mourn me when I die.
The meaning of life is to do something meaningful. You don’t need to win an Oscar or the Nobel Prize, just do something nice for someone important to you and try to make your life the best it can possibly be!
This is exactly riht
Some truly profound advice on life.
Death is only physical. The Soul is NOT physical and therefore it doesnt die. The soul is energy and energy is INDESTRUCTIBLE, God's greatest gift.
And dont put friends before family
You took my words... I live every moment as my last. If I die now I won't have any regret. I'll welcome it as an old friend.
Death is what gives life meaning
It's in doctor strange (marvel)
So he's kinda like Sauron in Lord of the Rings, not dead, but so completely diminished that it is impossible to return to the living plane and so mutilated that it is impossible to crossover. Terrible fate, but deserved.
The inspiration is probably direct.
Yes their fates are very similar both of them put a part of their being in an object which bound them to the living plane and when those objects were destroyed both of them were banished.
Ye or like Kronos from Percy jackson
Kai King-Blow I think that his fate is most akin to Melkor’s fate. Cast away into the void, diminished and powerless, but unlike Melkor he is never to return, but most of Melkor’s essence exists as Arda is said to be Melkor’s ring/horcrux
@@marianotorres9768 First off lemme say Yay another Tolkien fan who knows about Melkor! Second, and correct me if I'm wrong, Melkor was simply defeated, humiliated and restrained before being cast through the door of night. Defeated but not diminished and capable of returning according to Mandos' prophecy. Now you're totally on point with much of Melkor remaining in Arda, but I think Samuel Drejby has the right of it because Sauron's maya spirit is stuck in middle earth, unable to die, unable to move on, and incapable of reclaiming his power. When you think about it it's pretty effed up, to go from nearly omnipotent to just impotent.
I think he would have definitely been cremated. We know that magic can require bones (when Voldemort used his father’s to get a human form again) and no one would want to risk a future dark wizard having the power of Voldemort by using his bones
Yeah burn that evil, nose-less wizard
Agreed!
His body was compleatly destroyed he isn't barried or cremated
Voldemort used ashesh of his father to resurect him self in the goblet of fire
@@tadeuszkirchniawy4157 is that in the book because in the movie it is a bone
He is getting swooped up by mr Filch.
Kitty litter for mrs Norris
NORWEGIAN GUY Hahaha, best comment!
I know 😂
Voldemort has been added to the forbidden items list, which can be found in filch's office
Voldemort in the halls! Voldemort out of bad!
In the books Voldermort had an ordinary death. This was, I think, the final insult. Voldermort despised the idea that anything associated to him could be ordinary.
In the movie, though disintegrating was visually satisfying, it was the opposite of what the original author wanted. It was an extraordinary death.
Even the description of his body as he fell was meant to portray him as pathetic, a final insult to him.
I absolutely dug Dumbledore’s other line during the Ministry battle with Voldemort... “I must admit that merely taking your life would not satisfy me...”
I wonder if Dumbledore felt sorry for Voldemort after what happened to him. Don't get me wrong, he knew Voldemort had it coming. But that doesn't mean he couldn't at least pity his former student.
@@cashthecurator666 hmmm maybe he does because Voldy never experienced love, if someone took the time to care for him to love him imagine how different the story would be
@@dariya4661 Lmao there would likely be no story. Although psychopaths are born as psychopaths and nurture either worsens or lessens it, so who knows. He might not have been as evil as he was in canon though.
I love how even though voldemort caused harry so much pain he still tried to help voldemort by telling him to feel some remorse due to knowing what will happen to him if he doesn't
But I still don’t get how u can repair ur soul even after so much damage. Can someone is explain how to repair ur soul
@@enderreaper1482 It may not be a good comparison, but most religions believe that everyone can be redeemed, no matter what they did. But someone like Voldermort would need to do A LOT to be redeemed. I guess at least feeling remorse is better than not trying to save your soul at all.
Also on the book the book of the darkest art said that if a person who made a horcrux felt remorse the soul would be repaired but it would be so painful that it would of killed him
@@enderreaper1482 you can, but it will be quite painful. Possibly more painful than the cruciatus curse hundredfold.
@@dcspidey1218where?
So where can i read it?
Does anyone else agree that the way Voldemort died in the movie really let the story down?
Daniel Fahd Jup, a lot
Yeah i hated it
Daniel Fahd Ikr! I really think they could have made the book death really work in the final film, instead of having the one we have now. This is my idea:
"The final Horcrux is destroyed, Harry looks back to Voldemort. Nothing has happened to him yet. He raises his wand in one last ditch effort.
Harry raises his wand as well, and the dual is back on. And this time, Harry is winning. His magic is beating his to a pulp, and Voldemort's is diminishing. He no longer has the strength to carry on.
Then he clutches his heart as if he had just had a heart attack, and Harry then uses Expelleirmus, and the Elder Wand whips into the air in slow motion, and lands in his hand.
And Voldemort collapses to the ground, the camera is panned on his hand falling to it in slow motion.
Thus Harry had two wands in his hand, and was staring down at Voldemort's body, his eyes unknowing and vacant, and the camera then rises to see the sun rise seeping into the now ruined Hogwarts Castle, signaling a new dawn for the Wizarding World."
I know that wasn't in screenplay format, but I wasn't sure if I could have done it here. But that's my take on it. :)
I really dont get why they did that, with bellatrix as well
How would you change it?
3:30
It is a fate worse than death
Me: wait a minute I thought getting expelled is worse😂😂
You need to sort your priorities, Dear....
you need to sort out your priorities mate
😂😂😂
2 day hangover. You wish for deaths sweet demise
IS worst
The final battle with Voldemort in the book and the entire chapter is one of the coolest things I’ve ever read. The movie’s ending sucked. “The flaw in the plan” was absolutely fantastic and perfect and the fact that it ended in the Great Hall in front of a large group of wizards and witches who he’d tormented and terrorised was exactly the way it should have ended. The movie ending was stupid. I don’t know why they changed it or why JK allowed it
Fredrick Unverzagt I agree. The film should've ended quite similarly to the way it was in the novel. But personally, I think as a stand alone conclusion to a film series (if you ignore the books entirely which is really hard to do lol), it is a pretty satisfying end to him. But In the context of it being based off the final book in a long running (amazing) series, it's not as faithfully adapted as it should have been. :)
It annoys me too, but I ignore it because it's just a movie. The real Harry Potter is in the books.
@@shiftywing I guess that is true. :)
@William Stefens I agree! :)
Luke Skywalker the 2nd it’s especially hard as the later movies bring up stuff from the books which was never established in the early films
I think Voldemort is buried in Hogwarts maybe in the Chamber of Secrets because Harry knows Hogwarts is a place where Tom called home. I also think Harry will hold a funeral for Voldemort even no one would want to come. because Harry isn't the type hold on grudges of a dead person. Harry and Tom have a lot in common because a part of his soul is in Harry. Voldemort already had a really huge impact on Harry's life from killing Harry's parents to Harry and his gang destroy his horcruxes. The way Harry acts and thinks would be much different if he isn't the chosen one.
This is the most beautiful comment i read today😭😭😭I agree with you.I also believe Voldemort went on and he did not stay in limbo well that is the good thing with literature you can believe like whatever.He died so he can go on
I have a headcanon that when Tom left Wool’s Orphanage he enchanted his room to hunt the next child that was given his room drawing the child into insanity.
He can’t be buried thicko, did u even watch the last film, when he died his body disintigrated
@@nerdgeekcosplay909 Wool's orphanage went on fire after he was left. Possibly he did it to wape out his own past. Or the booming in ww2 did it.
@@billyrafferty4656 Don't tell me you only watch the films... Plz read. The book didn't mention Voldemort was turn into ashes. It was only for the cinematic effect. 😑
Nearly headless Nick is super underrated
I agree.
Peeves was underated also, missedout altogether in the movies
I JUST FORGOT HE EXISTS C-
Kreacher is underated, he was very loyal to Regulus
The main reason He fell was because he couldn't feel love, thanks to his mother... actually that's kind of depressing
I like to imagine that Voldemort after spending an eternity as a butchered fraction of a soul, he eventually did what Harry told him to. He regretted.
From what it was told apparently regretting doesn’t work after the death of someone who made horcruxes . So I guess he is doomed for eternal suffering and his consciousness would gradually cease to exist
But i think you only could regret if you are still alive, so i think it is do late and he is doomed
Bone of the father
Flesh of the servant
Blood of the enemy
That should be how he is buried with his father and wormtail and some dried up blood from dumbledore
it’s blood of a foe
It horrifies me that Tom feared death so much that he committed such terrible acts of Dark Magic to achieve immortality, and make himself have a fate truly worst than death in the long run when he was finally defeated at The Battle of Hogwarts. I have never feared death, for to me, as Dumbledore once said: After all, to the well- organized mind, Death is but the next great adventure". But if I ever did (if I lived in the Wizarding World), I would never do such things to try to escape it. :)
If you knew of a way of achieving immortality through a peaceful mean, would you do it.
@@meurum2561 If there was a way (and if I feared death) then yes. :)
Luke Skywalker the 2nd
Pp
I would definitely create horcruxes.But i would only kill child molesters etc to make them.
Idk why people fear like it's just like moving house rlly
I can't help but feel some double feeling when it comes to Voldemort. I don't acquite his behavior, but he was born without love, nor with an understanding of that concept. To me it feels like he had no choice but to become what he became.
I agree. Noone really cared about him. He is one of many sad characteers in the books.😢😢
I agree with most of this. Voldemort, although he would have tried, wouldn't have had the ability to remain as a ghost. But the piece we see in the King's Cross chapter is NOT the piece that was bound to Harry. It was the eighth of Voldemort's soul that was bound to his own body. The Master Fragment, if you will. Rowling did not confirm that this was the piece attached to Harry, she stated unequivocally, through the exposition of Dumbledore, that the Harry Fragment was destroyed when Voldemort attempted to use the Killing Curse on Harry in the forest. The entire Prince's Tale chapter was set up to tell this tale. Soul fragments placed in Horcruxes do not "pass on" or even go to Limbo when the Horcrux is destroyed, they are destroyed with it, leaving the Master Fragment even more diminished and permanently mutilated.
Voldemort didn't die at this stage because he had one Horcrux still remaining. (Nagini.) It wasn't destroyed until after he regained consciousness.
Harry's encouragement to try for some remorse was by this stage, pointless.
Jamie Sleeman what is “limbo”
John Lorton yes, really, whats limbo? I’ve never heard of it.
@@friendusesthisaccountnocom9928 limbo is kinda like the between realm from Earth and the afterlife(hell heaven and all that). I won't call it a purgatory as that is just the place where neutral people are cleared of their sins to reach heaven in Christian mythology.limbo is a place you'll probably never leave there is nothing there for you just a formless abyss of chaos.
Hagrid probably dragged his body into the forbidden forest and barryed him in an unmarked grave.
I feel like Hagrid is more likely to RIP his body to pieces then to bury it
"This is fer gettin me expelled Tom."
Maybe he tossed the body in the general direction of Aragog's descendents, who would have eaten it.
@@cockatoo010 Agreed. I always thought they didn't bother with burying Voldemort. He didn't deserve that dignity after all he did. Or maybe they threw him into the lake.
@@cashthecurator666 nah. The Giant Squid wouldn't have wanted that thing on his lake
I reckon he's out there, still, too tired to go on
sick hagrid reference bro
he said that? no way dude
Yep in the first Harry Potter movie
DrughiZG right 😏🤩
out there, looking for his nose
Harry: I think Voldemort is still around, cursed with a fate worse than death.
Hermione: He got expelled?
Hahaha yes I saw this and I just started rolling😂😂😂😂
I think he was cremated and his ashes scattered. So that there would be no place for anyone to go to build a shrine. As for his soul I think that he will remain in that purgatory in agonizing pain for all time. It is what he deserves. He had such a desire to live that he was willing to split his soul to accomplish that. However he had no concept of love which is what makes life worth living and he placed no value on the lives of others.
Mix Voldemort's ashes with some milk and drink it like Cartman did to Kenny!!
It's not toms fault his mom date raped some guy and made her son incapable to feel love
I honestly would have loved to see him marked next to his father as "Tom Marvollo Riddle Jr. Half Blood." To address his death by the name he hated the most (aside from dumbledore) and the shame of not being pureblood.
Palpatine :takes control of a whole galaxy
Scar(lion king): Takes control of a whole kingdom
Thanos: Kills half the universe
Voldermort: fails to kill a teenager
Bro if I knew there was an almost confirmed afterlife I wouldn’t be scared of death at all.
There is, it justs splits into two places. If you did bad things in life, there is hell and if you did good things more, then heaven is there.
Ice how do you know?
Faith
@@IceCrystal130 thats just a theory duh
Oh.. It's there.The only reason why material life is justified..
The idea of Voldemort being buried in a mass grave with the other Death Eaters is interesting. No special burial, no grand tomb, just a nameless pit. It’s just what he feared the most.
I always assumed that his corpse was going to be cremated by either normal fire or fiend fire
I believe he's still around. Here is how I understand Horcruxes (something I came to in my own writing, though my version of the idea is different and doesn't require murder or any other heinous act to be performed. The magic of my fantasy universe is different than Harry Potter, but it does have some similarities. A particular type of sorcerer, the lich, is known for doing this sort of thing. They become effectively immortal, tying themselves to some sort of object or other thing that lets them transfer their spirit into a new body if their current form is destroyed)
1. A Horcrux is made by taking the soul and ripping it apart. The method for doing this in their world is committing an act of murder. (In my story, all magic involves taking some of one's spirit and converting it into another type of energy. Done a certain way, usually involving blood or flesh of the caster, you can make an object along the lines of a Horcrux, that your soul is tied to). one then takes a piece of that soul and sticks it into an object, That object then is bound to the person who made the horcrux, meaning that as long as the object retains its integrity, you will live on, even if your body is destroyed.
2. That suggests that the soul, while split, is not entirely cut off from itself. The shards are still connected together into one being, one soul, but they've been stretched out and anchored to another object, something that shouldn't be possible in Harry Potter without breaking the soul's cohesion, something that can only be done by an act of true evil, such as murder.
3. What 2 ultimately means is that Voldemort's soul is still whole (much like how a lich's soul is still whole, but stretched between the body they occupy and the object that they have turned into a vessel for their soul), but it is split and stretched apart into all of the various shards he created. Those shards are in different places in Limbo. They still exist, because the soul cannot truly be destroyed, but they are no longer anchored to the living world, and because the soul is not whole, it cannot pass on to the afterlife. This is both the mechanism that makes the horcrux work as a means of immortality, but also what causes the soul to be trapped in Limbo if the Horcrux is destroyed and the parts of the soul are not reunited. By exploiting the anchor to the living world (much like how Voldemort did when he tried to possess Harry), the disembodied soul of a dark wizard can find themseves a new vessel or build a new body. But with no anchor, the soul will try to go to its true home: the spirit world. But because it is broken, it can't, I guess "board the train", and so until it works out what caused its breakage, it can never pass on. It's likely the same thing that happens to ghosts, only somewhat worse, because even that ghastly imprint on the world is gone.
4. If one could bring a shard of Voldemort back from Limbo and anchor it to the physical world, it would be possible to resurrect him. But the problem is finding him there, considering that Limbo is so huge. I think there is a way to do it. And it involves Harry. You see, while Harry lost the shard of the Dark Lord when Voldemort tried to kill him, that doesn't mean the connection is completely severed. Their spirits have intermingled. Harry's blood ran through the dark lord's veins. There is still a little voldemort in Harry, just not enough for the dark lord to use him as an anchor to the world. When Harry goes to Limbo, he will always see Voldemort there, as that bizarre little creature, because, fundamentally, their doors to the afterlife, to death, have been tied together. This means it may be possible to drag that shard out of Limbo through Harry, or possibly even turn Harry into a vessel for Lord Voldemort, assuming you could suppress Harry's will, or even take his soul out of the picture altogether without killing him.
Of course, doing so would, I imagine, be very difficult. There are very few wizards skilled enough to do it (Dumbledore or Grindlewald could have pulled i t off, maybe, but they're dead), and even fewer who would desire to do so. Most of the wizards that served Voldemort fled after his defeat, and they're certainly not going to risk themselves by trying to go after Harry again.
If youre right, then when harry pops his clogs; does voldemort finally get to cross over with harry?
@@thomasjones6216 probably not. Voldemort's soul is broken. He can't go on.
But Harry's death will probably be the final nail in the coffin, trapping Tom forever. With Harry dead, it will not be feasible for someone to pull Tom back to this world. At least assuming creating a new rudimentary body won't have that effect.
Wow even if fan art form Voldemort is still scary af.
What if voldemorts soul was left in his body
Unable to control himself and in extreme pain, unable to feel happy
He would be feeling all the pain that he caused other people, both the people he killed and the family’s and friends of the people he killed
This pain would never go away
So at this point, he may finally feel remorse and guilt for his actions
5:14 I think it was stated somewhere that the process was nearly unbearable for ONE horcrux, that he wouldn´t be able to withstand the pain because his soul was, not broken, but shattered.
god, can you IMAGINE the pain voldy would have felt? would have probably been comparable to every nerve in your body going off at once times a million
His body should have been buried in the chamber of secrets
chelseatheblues1905 What???
chelseatheblues1905 no
yeah, remember Ganondorf was sealed under hyrule in BotW2, how did that end up for Hyrule? burn him until even his ashes are burned, I rather burn him than him coming back by some kind of wizard necromancy crap
Juan Manuel has the right idea. Complete Oxidation
U'r right. He must have been buried in the secret chamber of his grand grand grand grand grand grand father. Salazar Slitherin
Has nobody asked JK Rowling this question? 😅 She's pretty responsive to pleas for missing information..
Nobody wants to ask her anything anymore she’ll ruin it
@@applenewmoon4402 Dude, when I read Spider's comment I literally pictured J.K. "Just Kidding" Rowling tweeting some shit about Voldie becoming a black woman in Limbo and trying to heal his soul through bisexual orgies with Native American spirits. Cuz ya know, everything is pro-diversity in Harry Potter if you retcon it hard enough.
@@MrKoraboras 😂😂😂😂
If voldemort is in limbo then the movie death would be a physical representation of that. Or the movie version shows that voldemort is nowhere yet he's everywhere. (thanks to the soul splitting not keeping him anywhere and the soul splitting not sending into hell).
Jack the lad guess what isn’t canon
He need to feel remorse and his soul need to be heal 💚💖💚💖
It would be cool if JK Rowling watched these videos! I love them, thanks so much!
What makes you think JK Rowling doesnt watch them occasionally?
i think that people would bury him in the little hanglton graveyard with his father, as this would not only Finnish what had all happened, but would be his final curse, to be buried with the father that he killed, the father he always hated, and and the tombstone, if the tombstone was marked at all, would read: tom riddle j.r. as he always hated the name and would be buried under it, always.
I think they would burn the body.I wouldn't want that think being around.
Chelsea Carhart That would have bien the punishment he deserved for he would have hated it.
I hope so
His body was magical not real
JKR said that Voldemort lives on in the afterlife as the stunted figure Harry saw in Limbo. It bears a striking resemblance to the feeble but repulsive body form Voldemort took in Goblet of Fire. Let's not forget Voldemort was knocked out as well when he threw the Killing Curse at Harry. What did he experience while he was unconscious?
I once envisioned that after the aftermath of the Battle Of Hogwarts, possibly even the day after, Harry would’ve charged himself with the duty of disposing Voldemort’s body. Taking Ron and Hermione (and possibly Neville, Ginny and Luna) along with him, they would’ve Disapparated to Little Hangleton, made their way toward the Riddle manor where there, under concealment charms cast by Hermione, in the graveyard where he was reborn, where he began the 2nd Wizarding War by killing Cedric, Tom Riddle’s body would be burned and his ashes poured into the grave of his Muggle family. A deserved resting place for the man who so hated his non magical heritage and feared death more than anything.
I believe his ashes were either thrown to the river near hogwarts, or scattered all over the world to avoid any fanatic or remaining death eater from making an altar of Lord Voldemort
Wouldn’t Voldemort internment with Tom Riddle Sr be an insult to the family destroyed by Voldemort himself
@@ChilliBandits The Riddle family sucked themselves. Not that the Gaunts were any prize either.
At least Frank Bryce would be posthumously acquitted. Seriously, why isn't his story mentioned on vanilla TV Tropes?
If the diary had become fully alive in the chamber of secrets, would his other active part join the revitalized Tom Riddle or could goblet of fire have happened also and there be 2 Voldamorts?
Would be interesting to see young Tom vs Old Voltimore!!!! Perhaps the different souls would join forces. Young Tom would becom ethe son to an old master?
I think Voldemort’s consciousness would switch to the Diary Tom
Even if the diary could become full alive it's just 1/7 of a soul, just an horcrux. The primary "ghost/shadow" of voldemort would likely add the horcrux or use their body for the cauldron ritual to make himself stronger.
@@daaadoooo actually the diary is 50% if his soul
The end of the Battle of Hogwarts was, in my opinion, what the movies got the most wrong.
Well...
The Quidditch World Cup
😂
@@ollieyoutube oh lord, still can't decide if goblet of fire or half blood prince film had it worse off.
I hated how physical his duel with Harry was.
What actually happened?
I feel kinda bad for him though, it's not his fault that he couldn't love as Tom and Merope didnt conceive out of love, but instead Tom was forced through a love potion and that was why Voldemort couldnt love, I know he still did terrible things, but I just feel like suffering constantly even after death FOREVER is too much
Z3nY he deserved it, bastard killed many innocent people, that’s like saying Hitler should not suffer for what he did, never feel bad for people like Voldemort or Hitler, people like that deserve what they get
@@JCardo2502 bruh Hitler and Voldemort are completely different. What I'm trying to say is that Voldemort wasn't conceived of love but of force and that had the magical effect that he now cannot feel love but only hatred, I don't feel any sympathy for Hitler at all
@@JCardo2502 I agree, he got what he deserved. No sympathy for him at all. GOOD RIDDANCE!!!
Z3nY yeah he was created from a love potion which was wrong but he was not forced to do the bad things he did he made that choice on his own and he could have chosen a different path and make the best of his situation and do some good he was after all very talented
Isis2013 i just thought of this. What if someone used a powerful love potion on voldemort himself? He physically couldn’t feel love so what would happen if someone made him magically feel love? Would he feel love from the potion or not? And if someone did use a love potion on him at a young age, before the horcruxes, do you think that the “fake” love he felt would have been enough to keep him from becoming evil and make him just like a normal guy?
I thik they would place his body in the chamber of secret's, remember after Voldemort killed the horkrux that lived inside harry he couldnt no longer speak with snakes but some how Ron learned how to do it so he could open the chamber.
I think Ron didn't learn it so much as just mimic the sounds he heard Harry make when speaking parsel tongue to open the chamber.. I used to be in a choir and learned through listening how to pronounce the latin words in songs, but still had no clue what I was saying in latin most of the time. I think Ron was similar, he memorized how the word in parseltongue to open the chamber was pronounced without learning or knowing the language .
This has actually really helped me to not be scared of death , which I’m sure scares basically every human being , otherwise you are most likely insane . Although death may seem horrible and unavoidable , it’s much better than being immortal , because there’s no escape , you will never truly be able to rest , knowing you have lived your best life. Death isn’t really like a long sleep , it’s just an eternal rest in which - wether we like it or not , we have to experience . That’s just life , and at least we’re not like Voldemort ....
The thing that I'm most curious about is the effect on having horcrux's and ageing. So although splitting your soul may prevent you from dieing conventionally, if Voldemort had survived what would his body be like when he reached 100 or worse still 200?
I think about this often
I completely understand your concerns about his grave being used as a meeting place, but I also think that burying him as “Tom Marvolo Riddle Jr” would be a much greater insult to him than leaving his grave unmarked.
STOP MAKING ME FEEL BAD FOR VOLDEMORT!
@Vinicius Schmidt Like I ever would.
Its empathy, and its a fictional character.
@@drchilapastrosodrlasmacas438 Empathy is a Human emotion Connor.
@@filiptalimdzioski7281 your comment is Useless, like wormtail.
@@drchilapastrosodrlasmacas438 You just disgraced Wormtail. Not that I likd him. He served Voldemort with giving him nagini's venom etc. Maybe you forgot this part or something. I only refrenced that Quote from Lt. Anderson. From quantic dream Detroit Become Human.
In a sense basically Tom is stuck in limbo and can not truly die he technically became what he thought he was immortal and invincible as no one could see, touch or hear him
Be careful what you wish for
He was once a wonderful student, handsome, and very talented guy; I don't feel sorry for him. He is the worst of the example to the slytherin house. I follow you at instagram. But yeah because of his eternal life it destroyed everything; his future, and his life. Great video. Keep doing what you're doing, they are awesome.
Aleyssa Centeno He is Slytherin to a T though, ruthless, cunning and probably the one of the most ambitious wizards to have ever lived.
@@Fizzlepop72 he may be all that. But he is the worst example of a slytherin. Yes cunning and ambitious is correct but evil and ruthless isn't one of them. I don't think you can understand it but o well. He was the worst slytherins out there, he gave slytherins a bad name and a reputation that no one would ever but ever want to be a slytherin because of him, and you. I have a good example of s slytherin who isn't what you think. QUE MR. DRACO MALFOY. At the end he looked like he wanted to punch his dad for what he did and wanted to stand up for the school. But his dad the death little bastard good for nothing jerk made him come back like he is still a baby. But he is a good example. He was the best. If you don't go to life of Draco Malfoy you can understand him, and what a true and proud slytherin he is. Not like Tom who ruined the reputation and the name for turning into a monster.
I blame his mom for conceiving him with a love potion. He was born without having the ability to love. Of course he’s going to be mentally twisted
@@jbracq2008 Literally incapable of love and left abandoned in an orphanage and at a young age starts to realize he has abilities that give him great power over others. Ya, that kid didn't have a fucking chance. I guess I feel a bit bad for child Tom, but it's a bit hard to feel bad for him by the time he's Voldemort
Jena Cide true that
Voldemort should have done this:
1. Make a scrunchie in to a horcrux
2. Give the scrunchie to a girl
3. Enjoy immortality
I don’t know why he didn’t just make a random rock a horcrux and just throw it far asf into the ocean
i think this is ur best vid so far
I think a lot of people would be too scared to even touch the corpse to move it. If they were scared of saying his name, I can’t imagine many volunteering to be his gravedigger. I don’t think much thought would have been put into which burial spot was most insulting or most deserving. I think people would have just wanted him gone in the easiest and quickest way possible. So I’d say cremation, like you suggested. Very unceremoniously, just burned like the trash he was
Yeah I wouldn’t wanna touch him either
Some say his final horcrux is hidden in a VW Beetle... all we know is: He's called the STIG!
SLF1SH my god............. he is alife
A VW Beetle! What’s that?
*Top Gear theme plays loudly, shattering every ear drum for miles*
@@siddharthtrikha1800 the Volkswagen Bettle
Dakota Anderson Volkswagen bettle...but...what kind of bettle is that? 🤔🤔
Here’s a plausible fan fiction. a follower works for department of Mysteries and studies the vail and find a way to go to limbo seeing his beloved master and?
He still exists in our hearts ♥️
Yes 💚💖
Morsmordre!
I miss that guy.
How handsome Tom riddle was he mad turned himself into a ghost type face😂
The idea of a ghost Voldemort is very interesting though. I'd love to see that idea explored.
we have seen that before in the end of the first movie and i think that his spirit would went straight into the chamber of secrets where his body would lie
@@soph301 if you think voldemort is toast think again he he back ups for back ups he just regaining strength and death eater can go back in time so I'm sure one of the will back and tells in what happens to him
3 stooges what you just said made no sense. Please read your comment before posting it to make sure it is grammatically correct.
@@timothygodwin7575 I posted that month's ago why comment now? Worry about the caronavirus instead!!!!! :-)
@@3stooges242 unless that death eater is Thanos and click his fingers that is impossible. Voldemort soul is stuck in a place that is worst then death. and if he did came back as a ghost he wouldn't have a soul anymore and wouldn't be able to come back .
Or maybe he was cremated then what was left locked up in the Department of Mysteries, preferably where death itself is studied. There may be some future valuable information contained within. Or at the very least, continually guarded and watched over so some misguided soul or a sick and twisted one can never try to bring him back or transform themself into Voldemort.
I think a headstone with "Voldemort" on it should've been erected. The reasons being:
➡️ We should remember and learn from the past - no matter how horrific it may be - to avoid history repeating itself.
➡️ Having "Voldemort" inscribed shows use of his name is no longer feared.
Learning from his mistakes could simply lead to a dark lord that will actually succeed in the end though.Voldemort came so close,change a few things and he would be ruling the wizarding world,possibly eventually even the Muggle world
Tom Marvolo Riddle
Edgy nickname Voldemort
In the movie the way Voldemort moves his hand with his wand with a smile before he tells Dumbledore he will die cracks me up 😂
Hey Dean,
I would like to believe that he was burned to ashes. I want to believe he does not exist but it seems logical that he does exist.
Love ❤❤
Worst place for him would have been buried in the muggle graveyard, right next to his muggle father.
In the books it was made obvious that he wanted to be special. What's worse than treated like any other muggle?
Voldemort's soul/consciousness so very mulilated and cut down so he can’t completely pass on in the afterlife. However, in my head canon eventually there will be a dark wizard who will conjure a way to absorb that last piece of Voldemort and become the next big baddie.
If he had been buried with the Riddles, the people of Little Hangleton would've noticed a strange new grave of an unknown person in the graveyard.
Can you imagine a sequel of HP several years or centuries later where an obscure magical sect trying to bring Voldemort from his prison?
I wonder if the Resurrection Stone would allow Voldemort to appear once more in a corporeal form, if that would even be possible for him at all after splitting his soul into so many pieces?
It’d be an interesting idea for a story. After all, the Resurrection Stone is just waiting for someone else to come across it accidentally, and it could possibly allow Voldemort to basically become a ghost.
I love these videos! Keep up the good work :) I was a subscriber when you only had 20k glad to see you’ve Grown so much.
I believe that Harry, as noble as he is, when he dies might pick up and carry Tom's soul fragment out of limbo for judgement just out of pitty.
What if someone used Voldemort’s bones/ashes in a wand?!
@Kuchi Kopi The Elder wand was destroyed in deathly hallows however, after harry used it to repair his own wand, (another important detail left out of the films
While the conundrum of what to do with it is a big one, the fact Voldemort left a corpse this time is important because it signified to the Wizarding World that it was truly over this time. And as someone mentioned before me, having his death be pretty ordinary would be the perfect final insult to him. All that effort to cheat death, and he still dies an unremarkable death and isn't even given a grave sight anyone would know, meant to be forgotten as any mass murderer should be.
Quick question, do you ever think Salazar slytherin would be proud of his great great great(whatever) grandson? Though Salazar did leave the basilix hoping for one day his children would purge the school of muggleborns, it still makes me wonder if he’d of agreed with his methods? When Hogwarts was made witch trials were very common and although no witch/wizard ever was burned(successfully) it can clearly demonstrate why Salazar would hate muggles and muggleborns. Would Salazar really approve of the mass murdering? There must of been some doubt, some remorse within him, because he did not seek to rule the wizard world. Although I can see him approving of grindewald.
I can't see him approving of Voldemort since he killed pure bloods also Salazar Slytherin would say screw the prophecy and kill him personally I believe it was Salazar Slytherin who created many of the spells Voldemort used including the unforgivables
Pink Lightning do you think so? Idk about the unforgivable curses but there is a chance. And kill him, himself? I highly doubt he’d be capable of that.
@@meurum2561 well Voldemort did many of his dark magic studies in a library built into the chamber and he likely took a few books with him when he left Hogwarts
Pink Lightning possibly, but even so there’s much concern I have regarding Voldemort. And him taking books is very likely.
I doubt Salzar Slytherin would've approved of either. Voldemort was a psychopathic killer incapable of loving others or caring about anyone who didn't inherently benefit him (he also enjoyed mental torture far more than physical), and Gellert Grindelwald wasn't even evil nor a pure-blood supremacist. Grindelwald just wanted the wizarding world to be free and went about it the wrong way; he didn't believe muggles/muggle-borns were inferior, nor did he torture unless he was angry and/or enjoy killing.
I can only imagine several years later at hogwarts a random 1/4 complete ghost face with no nose appears randomly taunting and insulting muggleborns as they run through the halls of hogwarts
Im terrified of dying and always have been simply because I don’t know what happens after.
But if I was a witch that knew for a fact that coming back as a ghost was an option then it probably wouldn’t even phase me 🤷🏻♀️
Another words… and in short, Voldemort died and he’s soul went straight to Hell without the book directly saying Hell. That’s probably the fate that’s worse than death. In regards to his corpse, I agree that he would have most likely been cremated and he’s cremains disposed of in secret.
To be honest, I've been waiting for the answer to that question as soon as I finished the book
Here’s an idea for a video (if you’ve not done one already). What exactly happens to the soul of someone who has had the Dementors Kiss performed on them? Is it consumed and digested in some way? What would that be like? Is it transported somewhere else? Does it still exist in the Earthly plain and if that’s the case, with the soul bound to the living world, does that make the soulless shell of the unfortunate victim immortal, the same as if they had created a Horcrux? Worthy of discussion don’t you think?
He’s my favourite character in Harry Potter
MINE AS WELL😭😭😭🤩🤩🤩
He was a lunatic really..
Mine too
Wow..
I'm scared of dying because I always like having some insight on what's to come and what my death will be like, but splitting a soul seems painful.
Guys do you think harry would be able to die of for example old age if the peace of voldemorts soul in him was never destroyed?
I wondered that too. Harry should have been indestructible, however, Voldemort never said the enchantment required to make a horcrux, so maybe he was destructible.
Marcello Mercuri yeah could be
You have to tweet this to Rowling dude!
Philipizmo you can do it if you want i dont have twitter😂
@@TheHildle well I can credit you. should i use your yt account?
At the end of World War II the dead Nazis were buried with unmarked Graves. Being as this book series takes parallels and inspiration from that War I imagine a lot of the Death Eaters and the dark lord himself were likely buried in unmarked Graves so as nobody would ever find them or try to pay them due respect. They were simply forgotten
Fragments of him exist in limbo but they are in constant agony and to weak to find the other parts he is in true hell every moment for eternity and it is all his own doing
Yay another great video. Thank you soo much Dean. I think Lord Voldemort is stuck between the living and death since he doesn't have a complete 'soul' to venture into any of the two worlds. That being said, it would be amusing to see him haunt Harry as a ghost.I need to look up fanfics like that now. Imagine the Dark Lord giving Harry advice on love as a ghost?
Well he exists, in limbo
As that raw looking whimpering baby thing
Actually, several Raw looking babies
I would say RIP
Rest in pieces, lol
Kodukula Anirudh except the first one”the book”
Rest in Pepperonis
I wouldn't put it past the ministry to bring his body to the department of mysteries to try to unlock the mysteries of the horcrux process. The only thing that makes me think this probably didn't happen was the exhaustive chaos that would have affected just about everybody in the wizarding community at that point
Damn this man was hot.. until he got into these splitting of soul shit -_-
Of course he exists. He's immortal. But immortality doesn't necessarily suggest health and prosperity. He's trapped between the two realms forever, conscious, yet unable to pass on. Mangled and soiled by dark magic of the foulest kind, he'll never know rest. Just the kind of fate he deserves.
You should do a video on what would have happened if Voldemort had actually felt remorse.
7:20 That was probably the point where Harry Potter and The Portrait of What Looked Like a Large Pile of Ash came from
I'd be interested to know if he has any awareness. That would certainly add to his suffering, knowing full well who and what he was and yet being trapped forever in the space between plains and in a pitiful form to boot. Now that I think about it, it seems to me that the form he appeared in there was almost the exact same as the one he inhabited when he initially returned to a physical body after Wormtail found him.
I think that they did burn his body. That way, any remains could not be found and used as a sort of holy relic
If his wand still exists, it's possible that Voldemort's last soul piece possessed it and the next master would be possessed by him.
But if that's the case would the wand be an eighth Horcrux?
@@cashthecurator666 harry broke his wand in 2 pieces and then threw it
Hey @HarryPotterFolklore
I think the idea of him being buried in an unmarked grave is actually I very interesting idea, because in life he was known as "he-who-must-not-be-named." Isn't it kind of fitting he would die as "he-who-shall-not-be-remembered?" I'm not saying that's what happened but it's certainly an interesting juxtaposition.
Amazing video!!
The idea of not having any indication of his grave to deter fanatics from worshipping him is a fascinating thought tbh
He lives in our lungs when he evaporated in the air.
The unmarked and unknown grave idea really makes sense to me imo.
Bury him somewhere he will never be found, and that means there's nothing for his loyal followers to worship.
Without that, I'd wager that his ideals and ways amongst his followers would just die out given time.