Nagini is the only other living horcrux so my question is why didn’t he connect the dots between Her and him. He can possess both. See into both their heads, they can see into his. Pretty obvious. This is why he wasn’t a ravenclaw.
Very true. I believe Voldemort assumed that it was his connection to animals and snakes inperticulal that allowed him to possese her. Remember that Voldemort discovered he could make animals do his bidding when he lived in the orphanage.
As a Gryffindor, Ravenclaw isn't just about intellect. That is a stereotype. It is also about creativity and being open minded. This is why Cho Chang and Luna Lovegood are Ravenclaws, and Hermione not being a Ravenclaw.
I always wondered why nagini didn’t die from Voldemort’s possession like the other animals were said to have been and then we find out she’s actually a human being trapped in the form of a snake from the Fantastic Beasts movies. That explains that little tidbit. But then you have yet even more questions. Questions like “why then didn’t Harry see inside her head and realize she was a human soul herself?” Or why when Nagini drank the polyjuice to transform into Bathilda Bagshot was she so clumsy and fumbly as if she didn’t know how to operate the human form she was in when clearly she did know because she is a human after all. This is the problem you create when you go and make prequels and add “Lore” to the existing cannon with pre existing characters. It’s not like Newt Scamander where we only seen his name once. Nagini was an active role in the potter story. When you try to add more depth you have to be careful not to create plot holes. For as careful as Rowling was/is she does make pretty blatant mistakes. The biggest one so far is making Credence a Dumbledore. When we know Albus had one brother and one sister. Unless she purposely wants us to think she doesn’t know what she’s doing but it’s gonna be hard to work around the known existing cannon. Credence has an age and the timeline doesn’t work out. But we will see
Piphans Nibe but his younger self (tom) was in slughorn’s partys. i do think he’s smart but he doesn’t use his brain because he has at least %5 of his soul in him, which means he isn’t fully human so he doesn’t use commonsense, he was just a power seeking body. (ik your joking but the hermione part of me couldn’t hold itself :’h )
if he was smart he wouldn't have split his soul giving up the one thing that might have helped him rule. the only thing his father ever gave him. The face.
You know what is most Interesting? Harry was holding the 8th part of Voldemort's soul. By Harry becoming a Horcrux, Voldemort lost the magic number 7 for his soul fragments forever. From then onward his downward spiral started.
Voldemort never knew Harry is a horcrux since he didn’t use the spell to create a horcrux, he also was too immersed in evil to notice and technically, he made a inside soul, putting in in Harry’s body
By the time Voldemort went to kill Harry, he had 6 horcruxes already. So when he tried to kill Harry and the curse rebounded destroying his body, he was too weak, and to disoriented to know what had happened to him. He wandered around as a formless, dark mist seeking refuge and some way to sustain himself. His horcruxes kept him living as that mist for some time.....until he made a devil's pact with Quirrel. Having already created 6 horcruxes, Voldemort only had 1.5% of his soul left. His attempt on Harry cut in half again, leaving him with 0.75% and Harry with 0.75% of his soul. So by the time Voldemort faced Harry in their final duel, he had practically no soul left.
Milchael - I thought Nagini was made before Harry...when Harry was made valdemort had no body, therefore no wand. Therefore magic to a minimum compared to when he could yield a wand.. Was nagini horocrux made when the keeper of the Riddle house was killed?
All that math and yet, nobody can point me to the part in the book where it talks about what fraction of the soul is split off when you're creating a Horcrux. As I see it, canonically, we get information about Horcruxes by Slughorn, Dumbledore, and Hermione. Hermione doesn't talk about the process at all other than how terrible and evil it is. Slughorn uses the following terminology: "part of the soul", "split your soul", "killing rips the soul apart", "the torn portion", "divide the soul", "ripping it into seven pieces". (and variations thereof) Dumbledore usese the following terminology: "rip his soul", "tear his soul in two", "split his soul", "fragment of soul", "piece of his soul", "part of the self" (and variations thereof). Now, since splitting something in 2 (or 7) parts doesn't automatially mean that the 2 (or 7) parts must all be equal in size, I don't feel that we get any canonical information on which fraction making a Horcrux splits the soul by. Therefore, we doN't have any grounds based on which we could determine any percentages of Voldemort's soul.
Yes! I think this is one reason why "Harry Potter Folklore" has such a small sub count and view. They literally lack the quality of Super Carlin Brother of Semous Gourmet.
I think the movies added Harry feeling the horcruxes being destroyed or just being around them for the more dramatic effect. Hell, I’ve always been wondered if in the 2nd movie when he destroyed the Diary, the camera shows his face for a few seconds and while it was the first horcrux destroyed, in my head I was could see that he felt a little bit of “what the hell” 😂😂
In reference to Voldemort not being the master of the elder wand when he was overpowering Harry...well I think you are referencing the final battle in the movie where Voldemort is just kicking the high holy crap out of Harry in the castle. That never happened in the book. In the book after Voldemort thought he had murdered Harry, Harry slipped under the invisibility cloak and fought off the death eaters from underneath trying to make his way to Voldemort and when Voldemort tried to murder Mrs. Weasley, Harry casted a shield charm to protect Mrs. Weasley thus revealing himself to be alive for the first time where they circled each other and Harry revealed all the mistakes Voldemort had made. No physical altercation ever took place and that’s why the Elder Wand never recognized Voldemort as it’s true master
Voldemort never physically beats Harry in the books and since harry never fought him in the woods nor did he die he was never defeated by him. Therefore the remained the elder wands master.
Another theory also goes that the elder wand was made by death, so someone like Voldemort who feared death more than anything could never master it as long as someone else had a connection to it who feared death far less.
In the books, Voldemort never really physically fight and hence overpowered Harry. Everything that happened meanwhile in the movies actually happened while they were circling themselves. 🤦🏾♂️
I liked it. V just snapped and started going muggle on Harry’s behind, something he’d hate himself for stopping too, but he’s that fed up with having Harry escape him. He’s bad at killing for a mass murderer.
But Harry didn’t win the wand’s allegiance by overpowering Draco, but by disarming him. Draco’s wand told (so to speak) the Elder Wand that Draco was disarmed. Chairmanmeow Voldemort didn’t defeat Harry in the forest, he died willingly
Next video: Why Ron was never acknowledged by everyone when he saved Ginny, the stone and destroyed a horcrux . If your wondering how he helped save Ginny, if he diddent break his wand he and Harry both would of lost their memory’s causing Ginny to be stuck there forever and bringing Voldemort to power.
He was quite deformed, blurry and unhuman, but yeah, he probably didn't look so bad. But when Muggle children saw him they run away screaming, so it couldn't be a nice view.
When could Harry see or hear the horcruxes? Yes, in the movies he could hear them but that’s only because they left out so much vital information about the horcruxes out of the sixth movie that it was a necessary addition. I’m speaking strictly from the books information. The only times Harry saw them was when he saw inside Voldemort’s mind while Voldy was thinking about them. As far as hearing them, Harry literally picked up 3 of the horcruxes before he knew what they really were and he didn’t “hear” them then (even in the movies which makes his newfound ability the the last two really weird) The diary in the second book, the locket while they were cleaning out Grimald Place, and the diadem when he was hiding the Half Blood Prince’s book in the room of requirement. Also, when did Voldemort physically overpower Harry? Again, in the movies maybe, but that was an addition as well. That didn’t happen in the books. So what am I missing?
He'd probably try to capture him, so he could restrain him and start out with killing the horcrux inside him and then kill him. I don't think he would imprison him since Tom marked Harry as his equal in the first wizarding war. Doing so meant that they - according to the prophecy - couldn't both live at the same time and neither could achieve what they wanted. One had to die and the hands of the other.
Your idea of the Horrocruxes trying to join makes sense, however Dumbledore clearly explained that Voldemort can't feel them, not even when they get destroyed, and Harry can't feel them either; he also said Voldemort is not any weaker because of this! The silly part is talking about "percentages of a soul", that's a little ridiculous, isn't it? You're talking about an immaterial thing, not something you can see, touch or put on a chopping board!
Well said! I especially loved the part when you explained how the soul fragments are trying to find each other to become whole once again. How that was the reason why Harry could hear the Horcruxes, the soul fragments want to be found.I never heard anyone explain it that way. That theory is perfection.
That theory is nonsense. Good of him to come up with it, I'm not saying it isn't clever. But it's nonsense because canonically, Harry CAN'T hear or feel or see visions of the other Horcruxes. It was just lazy writing because they realised that for once, their usual omitting of half of the relevant information in a film (in this case Half Blood Prince) came back to bite them in the ass because without all those scenes, film-Harry suddenly didn't have enough information to actually hunt the Horcruxes, so they gave him that "magic Horcrux touch". The reason why Harry can hear the Horcruxes is simple: Terrible screen-writing, nothing more to it.
but it's complete nonsense, because it's not true - canonically, Harry CAN'T hear or feel or see visions of the other Horcruxes. It was just lazy writing because they realised that for once, their usual omitting of half of the relevant information in a film (in this case Half Blood Prince) came back to bite them in the ass because without all those scenes, film-Harry suddenly didn't have enough information to actually hunt the Horcruxes, so they gave him that "magic Horcrux touch". So "why can Harry see visions of the Horcruxes"? The answer is simple: Terrible screen-writing, nothing more to it.
I think it was explained a little. Dumbledore said it was due to Voldemort's hubris. Voldemort never considered what he thought as less than himself. He considered Harry as weak, and assumed all Harry's accomplishments Dumbledore's.
Personally I never thought about this scenario. But it is a really interesting subject I like how deeply this channel does research into the world of hogwarts.
Next video: what happened to voldemorts body when he died the first time.... was it buried some where if so where??? Or was it cremated???? Just what did happen as surely with voldemorts knowledge and desire to defeat death he could of found or would of found away to attach his spirit back into its original vessel just like the potion/spell he used to give himself a body back was of his own creation
Hmmm, very interesting concepts. I have to think about the first part for a while. In terms of the Horcruxes wanting to be found, I'm not sure. If they are ripped apart by such a heinous act, and the person who committed that act has no remorse, I don't feel like they could ever be reunited together as one again. I feel like they can sense each other because they are part of the same soul.
They can sense each other because of terrible screen-writing, nothing more to it. Canonically, Harry CAN'T hear or feel or see visions of the other Horcruxes. It was just lazy writing because they realised that for once, their usual omitting of half of the relevant information in a film (in this case Half Blood Prince) came back to bite them in the ass because without all those scenes, film-Harry suddenly didn't have enough information to actually hunt the Horcruxes, so they gave him that "magic Horcrux touch".
In the book Harry never heard them...the “hearing” was put into the book as a way to explain how Harry knew what they were. Though the explanation made is a good idea if that was done in the books
Brilliant analysis again! The idea of the horcruxes calling out to Harry to be found, so that they may join each other, is simply genius. I love it. I believe it.
It's a NONSENSE theory. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with the theory itself, but it's complete nonsense, because it's not true - canonically, Harry CAN'T hear or feel or see visions of the other Horcruxes. I don't know why he's entertaining things that aren't canon at all. It was just lazy writing because they realised that for once, their usual omitting of half of the relevant information in a film (in this case Half Blood Prince) came back to bite them in the ass because without all those scenes, film-Harry suddenly didn't have enough information to actually hunt the Horcruxes, so they gave him that "magic Horcrux touch". Harry can sense the Horcruxes in the film for one simple reason: Terrible screen-writing, nothing more to it.
The elder wand is not seeking for a master. The elder wand is seeking for power, so once Voldemort became weaker and weaker, the wand just "decided" not to "listen to him".
Wands choose who to listen to. Even Olivander said so. Wands choose the wizard/witch and they can change their alligence. It's not common for them to change once they have chosen but it did happen in the book series.
After sitting at home all these days I rewatched HP 😂 Can you do “What if Ginny did die in the chamber of secrets, and the young handsome Tom Riddle came back”
Could you do another video on Voldemort, but more so on horcruxes. Is there any physical link between them? How doesn’t Voldemort know that his horcruxes have been moved? How can a human be a horcrux, what are the effects it has etc.
Concerning your question "How can a human be a Horcrux?"..... Nagini highlights the fact that animate beings can serve as vessels for a piece of one's soul.
I don't think you should take Dean's word for anything concerning Horcruxes since he has spread so much wrong information in this video by making a theory about why Harry could sense the Horcruxes when canonically, Harry CAN'T hear or feel or see visions of the other Horcruxes. I don't know why he's entertaining things that aren't canon at all. It was just lazy writing because they realised that for once, their usual omitting of half of the relevant information in a film (in this case Half Blood Prince) came back to bite them in the ass because without all those scenes, film-Harry suddenly didn't have enough information to actually hunt the Horcruxes, so they gave him that "magic Horcrux touch". Harry can sense the Horcruxes in the film for one simple reason: Terrible screen-writing, nothing more to it. So to answer two of your questions: * There is no link between the Horcruxes, physical, psychic, or otherwise, other than sharing a fraction of the same soul * Voldemort doesn't know his Horcruxes have been moved because a) as far as we know, it isn't possible at all to sense Horcruxes (nobody can do so canonically) b) even if were possible for the Horcruxes' creator to sense them, Dumbledore explains that Voldemort couldn't sense anything because of how damaged his soul already was
Voldemort was so disconnected from the parts of his soul that he couldn't even sense when they were destroyed. So he wouldn't have known that after creating so many Horcruxes his soul was at its breaking point. Dumbledore also suggests that murdering Lily and James and trying to kill 1 year old baby Harry were acts so evil that not only did the Avada Kedavra curse rebounding on Voldemort destroy his body reducing him to a spirit but tore his soul apart one more time and it attached itself to Harry.
and to answer the end question the reason the Elder Wand didn't become Voldemort's in the movie could be answered in 2 ways 1. Because the book and movie's versions of their final encounter went much differently but the movie still needed to follow the book on the whole elder wand being Harry's bit. 2. Voldemort never took a wand from Harry, but Harry took Draco's which is the most logical answer for the movie's slight inconsistency.
Well your sort of correct when it comes to ownership of wands. Draco won the elder wand from Dumbeldore becausw he was capable of disarming him. Harry in turn disarmed Draco, resulting in the elder wand and Draco's wand belonging to Harry. Voldemort defeated Harry in battle. But since Harry did not die and was not disarmed, all of the wands loyal to harry, remained as such
There is no canonical evidence that Harry had more of Voldemort's soul inside of him than Voldemort did himself. Anyway, neither that nor the reason he puts forth in his video are why Harry could sense the Horcruxes. He could sense them for one reason only: Terrible screen-writing, nothing more to it. CCanonically, Harry CAN'T hear or feel or see visions of the other Horcruxes. It was just lazy writing because they realised that for once, their usual omitting of half of the relevant information in a film (in this case Half Blood Prince) came back to bite them in the ass because without all those scenes, film-Harry suddenly didn't have enough information to actually hunt the Horcruxes, so they gave him that "magic Horcrux touch".
Random thought but given the current situation in the world, and just watching Voldemort slap Harry about, I can't help but wonder how often Voldemort actually cleans his hands/himself? Is there a spell for it or does he just roll about smelling like a hobo?
Because to destroy a horcrux, the item holding said horcrux must be destroyed completely. i.e. Slytherin's locket itself was obliterated, "killed" by the sword of Gryffindor. Destroy the container/construct that holds the soul shard and you destroy the horcrux. Which as we know is difficult because it's very dark magic. Harry wasn't destroyed completely because as folks above said, Fawkes.
Remember, though, that in the book, Voldemort and Harry didn't have that physical brawl. That's movie-only and I don't believe the movies are canon. It's kind of...abusive? Like, remember, Voldemort is either in or verging on his 70's (can't remember how old he was) and Harry's still a teenager. Not cool, Voldy.
Voldemort never disarmed Harry which is why the Elder Wand never switched allegiance from Harry to Voldemort. But even then, "the wand chooses the wizard", and perhaps the Elder Wand sensed that Voldemort was not strong.
Wait but Voldemort (in the books) didn't find out that Harry was looking for the horcruxes bc of their connection, he found out about it when they broke into Gringotts and the goblins of the bank told him that Harry Ron and Hermione had taken Hufflepuff's cup from the vault. It is not the same at all.
I want to know why they could fix broken things in an instant, (like Harry's glasses),broken or missing bones, heal dismemberment and just about all other major medical emergencies short of mental injury, but they couldn't correct Harry's eyesight?
The Elder Wand plays on the weaknesses of the soul of its wielder. It didn't want Voldemort as its master because there was nothing to latch onto. It might have as well have 'felt' that in his case, an animal had come along and picked it up with its mouth. I have this related but SOT theory about the past and horcruxes. In ancient times, a group of champions, considered a model and prototype for the Aurors, emerged and each died doing an act of supreme good. They are remembered as kind of a wizarding Avengers/JLA, but in truth, they were a group of reformed Dark Magic Users who each followed Herpo's model and gained immortality through Horcruxes. Immediately, though, they became repulsed by what they had done. Food, companionship, all of life's pleasures meant much less with their souls no longer intact. They resolved to reform and gain their souls unity back by good works, which in most cases, means death. They also moved to suppress all Horcrux knowledge, and they would know where to find it, in order that no one make their mistake again. This is why Tom had trouble making some of his. Also, these reformed champions didn't have his lingering fear of death, so his losses of sensation were bearable if not welcome. Bruce Wayne to Ra's A Ghul: "I was wrong. You don't cheat death - you cower in front of it!" - Batman Beyond, "Out Of The Past".
I think it wouldn't revive an already dead body, and furthermore, a corpse decays, it would ultimately result in the destruction of the horcrux via putrefaction.
@@limalicious Make the Horcrux an inferi. Also, no it would not spring to life. The book was a normal book but had extra magic for the communication thing. The ring, diadem, locket, cup, did not become alive.
but bogus. It's complete nonsense, because it's not true - canonically, Harry CAN'T hear or feel or see visions of the other Horcruxes. I don't know why he's entertaining things that aren't canon at all. It was just lazy writing because they realised that for once, their usual omitting of half of the relevant information in a film (in this case Half Blood Prince) came back to bite them in the ass because without all those scenes, film-Harry suddenly didn't have enough information to actually hunt the Horcruxes, so they gave him that "magic Horcrux touch". Harry can sense the Horcruxes in the film for one simple reason: Terrible screen-writing, nothing more to it.
People i've been struggeling with this for some time now. Voldemort wanted to make 7 horcruxes but if Harry was an accident, shouldn't there be another one?
Twan Westland, Dumbledore said that he thought Voldemort was going to use Harry’s death to make his final horcrux. Still, it doesn’t make sense because Nagini presumably became a horcrux somewhere between books one and four.
He only wanted 6. The 7th piece was to be the part that remained in his body. He thought Nagini was his 6th, but he had already unknowingly made Harry a horcrux, so Nagini was actually the 7th.
Hi I am also one of the harry potter series’s fans. I had these kind of questions in my mind after watching all the Harry potter movies and I came across your channel. I must tell you your research and logic to explain something which is not explained in the movies is outstanding and brilliant. After watching or I should say after learning more about these details is so satisfactory and I am obsessed with your channel. ♥️
The thing I don’t fully understand is how Voldemort was able to Come back in the Graveyard. I mean, Did he Need a horcrux (in This case Harry) to make This all work or is There another explaination? Voldemort didn’t know Harry was a horcrux. If not for Harry being a horcrux, How would the ritual have worked? I suppose hè needs to like collect his soul From a horcrux for HIM to Come back right?
He manifested as the part of his soul that was still left in his body, possessing snakes and such in albania until wormtail found him and helped him regain a body (the tiny voldemort wormtail dumped into the potion) He needed to get his old body back, which is the point of the potion. He needed blood of the enemy, forcibly taken, (which is why he needed harry, also to circumvent Lily potter's sacrificial magic), flesh of the servant and a bone from his father Edit: I would imagine the process of splitting the soul prevents it from moving on into the wizarding afterlife, which is why voldy was able to take that form of the part of the soul that was left in his body, instead of that part of his soul dying with his body or moving on, after he failed to kill harry. Refer to the scene where harry dies and talks to Dumbledore, and sees "a part of voldemort sent here to die"
Remember, Dumbledore was almost triumphant when Voldemort chose to use that spell and Harry’s blood. He said Voldemort ignores magic he doesn’t consider powerful like anything to do with love. When he used Harry’s blood, he unwittingly made himself a horcrux for Harry, binding Harry to the mortal world. When he “killed” Harry, he destroyed his own horcrux as well. This is what the prophecy meant when it said the Dark Lord would mark him as his equal and he (Harry) would possess power the Dark Lord knew not.
Shelly Brown he didnt make Harry a horcrux, i think it was something like Lillys protection being in his blood so when Voldemort used the blood to create his body it made it added another layer of protection for Harry because they both shared the ‘protection blood’ so i guess like the twin wands not being able to kill each other or being around someone with the shared ‘protection blood’ kept him safe. The reason he had to stay with the Dursleys is because of this.
weeeell Dumbelor tells Harry in the first and second years that Voldmort transferred his powers to him as a child when his parent killed. so dumbelor almost tells that harry is a horcrux
Hey you can do a vedio about phoenix life and how it finally ends it life or was it immortal and also that could any wizard or witch could use the phoenix to become immortal
I thought it was Snape as well, but didn't know if we'd gotten a definitive answer. I'm a new sub (like really new, as in last week lol). I'll look for the video. Thanks🙂.
@@kaidenreece3529 can't be. Snape was chasing Lupin and George who flew towards a different direction. And btw, Hedwig didn't give Harry away. It was his use of Expelliarmus on Stan Shunpike. Many death eaters knew that was his signature spell as Lupin pointed out.
Tom Riddle was not a strategist. He was intelligent, but he lacked strategic competence. Also look up the trope: villainous bteakdown. After a bad thing happens, the bad guy gets less and less competent. Sure he can perform these awesome magical feats, but, slowly, he just becomes this wrathful megalomaniac who utilizes almost exclusively the killing curse, belittles his followers, which is the main reason Malfoys turncoated last minute. His organization fell apart as soon as he died. Usually an organization dies before its leader. Not so with Tom Riddle.
Pandadude12345 are you kidding?? Tom riddle was THE strategist! Every book you see what a master he is at strategy. He kills his father & grandparents framing his uncle morphin for the murders, his death eaters destroyed the order of the Phoenix before Harry came along, he took over the ministry of Magic, he hoodwinker the tri wizard tournament to get his body back, he planted images in Harrys mind all year to trick him to go after the prophecy, he carefully manipulated people to get himself the founders heirlooms. He plans a meeting with Dumbledore to secretly hide the diadem at hogwarts Etc. Almost everything he does involes strategy & it always workes! Except killing Harry, but thats not the point.
Great great video!! I agree that Voldemort indeed became weaker the more horcruxes he made, after all the more times an item is taken apart the more brittle it becomes!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
This raised an interesting thought. We don't know the details of how a horcrux is created. What if there's a spell that the murderer has to cast on him/herself just prior to the act. Thus drawing out the unstable fragment created by the murder. At which time the killer then casts another spell drawing the soul fragment into the intended object. With Harry, Voldemort never got to cast the horcrux creating spell as he was now dead or deadish. The fragment of his soul released by the prior murders of James and Lilly latched onto Harry. Interesting follow up thought. What happened to Voldemort's body after he attempted to kill Harry? The killing curse doesn't destroy the body. What was he planning on using as horcrux after killing Harry?
A good point, but if I recall correctly, it wasn't trying to drown him perse, but trying to avoid the sword of Gryffindor since it had the power to destroy it. So it was more akin to self preservation. Although, this opens a new line of questions, like, why didn't the fragment of Voldemort inside Harry try to avoid it as well? Though I suppose you could argue that since Harry was in control of his own body with his own soul, he overpowered Voldemort.
@@joeschook792 It's a complete bogus theory anyway because it's not true - canonically, Harry CAN'T hear or feel or see visions of the other Horcruxes. I don't know why he's entertaining things that aren't canon at all. It was just lazy writing because they realised that for once, their usual omitting of half of the relevant information in a film (in this case Half Blood Prince) came back to bite them in the ass because without all those scenes, film-Harry suddenly didn't have enough information to actually hunt the Horcruxes, so they gave him that "magic Horcrux touch". Harry can sense the Horcruxes in the film for one simple reason: Terrible screen-writing, nothing more to it.
First, Voldy was not desperate to regain a body. He had to have Harry..worm tail offered to find any wizard who was his enemy. Second, Dubledore explained that he was so immersed in evil and that he’d split his soul so much that the part that went into Harry was not missed. Lastly, Harry could not feel the other horcruxes. That was a stupid part of the movie but not the book.
Good logical deductions, yes it is most curious now that you mention it about the fact tha Voldemort "disarmed" Harry Yet Harry still remained the Master ! ....but harry never raised his wand in that instance and yes Voldemort was barely "alive" with barely a soul left.Only what was within Harry and Nagini to tether him to the World. Perhaps that is how Harry's hold as the Master was retained? !!! Certainly something I have never stopped to ponder and consider, so well done.
Right because for one to own someone else wand they have to disarm the onwer of the wand to then be the master of the wand. And that didn't happen. Voldemort just "killed" harry never disarmed him
It's simple, Voldemort was never more powerful than Harry, and here's why: He was obscenely more skilled in dark magic, sure, but never more powerful as the wand is a DEATHLY HALLOW, it isn't looking for his master, it's looking for death itself, which is a spirit entity. Riddle wasn't the master of death as he believed, he was the master of mortal life. He wasn't the spirit entity the wand was looking for, after so many horcruxes, there was pretty much no spirit left, only a vague consciousness. The wand would never work for him. But, in his lack of compassion, Riddle was too arrogant to see this fact. Harry was the true master of death, since he embraced it, his soul was complete and he understood death for what it was.
One theory I could see for why the Elder Wand didn’t change allegiance to Voldemort after he beat up Harry was simply the fact that in the end, the Elder Wand knew Voldemort could not beat Harry, that no matter how badly he wounded or harmed Harry, because of him possessing Harry’s blood, Voldemort could never truly kill Harry
Voldemort didn't have a weakened connection to magic. He was just arrogant and foolish. I do believe he had less awareness to the shards of his soul but that was because he had literally ripped them out.
Great content As always😊In order of the Phoenix after voldy took over Harry’s body in the ministry why did he not sense the horcrux then and when did hermoine know thanks
i think so. theres a point in the 7th book (i think it's in malfoy manor) where harry uses 3 wands to stun someone, and the power of the spell is much greater and more forceful than if he used just one
What I want to know is when Dumbledore first suspect Harry's a Horcrux because it's kinda obvious he atleast suspects it during the order of the Phoenix when harry sees nagini bite Arthur weasley did he suspect that before hand or for that matter when did Dumbledore discover voldy was making them did he know it when harry gave him the diary right after killing the basilisk
What do you mean by "Harry was able to hear and Horcruxes and know where they are" ? Half of the last book is about Harry not having a clue where to find them and that creates the fight with Ron. The Horcruxes are clearly described as talking to the people around them, by distillating negative thoughts like the locket or taking physical form like the diary or the locket again. At the end of book 7, Harry only knows that the last Horcrux is in Hogwarts because Voldemort forgets to concentrate against Harry's mind (which he does since end of book 5 according to Dumbledore) and Harry feels how worried and angry he is about his Horcruxes and how all his thoughts concentrate on the places where they are hidden. And of course, as already mentioned by other viewers, Voldemort never defeats Harry in combat, physically or otherwise. He has no reason to claim his wand.
I agree with you 1000%!!! He's talking about the atrocity that are the films. Since they spent half the sixth film concentrating on the romance stuff and spent a good portion of their time having death eaters surrounding the burrow and burning it to the ground and only show TWO of the memories Dumbledore shows Harry (the one in the orphanage and the one from Slughorn) they suddently noticed for the last two films that they didn't give film-Harry enough information to actually be able to find any Horcruxes. Cue "Harry has a hitherto undetected ability to sense Horcruxes". It was complete nonsense and if you haven't yet seen the films, please stay away from them. They'll only ruin your day. (Especially anything after the 2nd film).
Can someone explain this to me? If Lily's sacrifice prevented Voldemort from touching him, shouldn't that mean that if he picked up a horcrux (the journal in this instance) that it should have crumbled into ash? And with that logic, shouldn't the shard of soul inside harry have either died, or make him immune to this power of harry, since a part of his soul latched onto harry AFTER Lily's sacrifice? Excuse me while I go nurse this nose bleed
riddle never overpowered harry imo. harry kept getting back up when it was voldemorts intention to strike him down. harry gained the allegiance of the elderwand cause his intent was achieved. voldemorts wasent. since harry stood up and kept going.
How was he not aware? He had full intentions of making a Horcrux upon Harry's death meaning when he casted the killing curse at Harry he must've had that piece of soul ready to be put into whatever object he intended to make as the last Horcrux (most probably the Sword of Gryffindor, which I speculate was revealed to Fabian and Gideon before they died). So when it rebounded, wouldn't it have just been common sense that it would've latched onto the nearest possible container? (Harry) How could he be so dense to not know that? Because he had full recollection of that night, proven when it showed Harry taking Voldemort's perspective of the night Harry's parent were killed, up to and including when the curse rebounded. And wasn't Harry's ability to hear the Horcruxes only in the movies? If so, then can that ability really be considered canon?
You severly misunderstand how making a Horcrux usually works. Everything conveyed in the books suggests that creating a Horcrux requires a complex and difficult magical ritual. Simply killing someone and thereby splitting your soul isn't enough. He intended to use the bit of his soul he split of his soul when he killed Harry to create a Horcrux, but he couldn't have known that a piece of soul could latch onto another being without the indubitably complex incantations and process. I'm completely with you on your second point, though - Harry's being able to hear the Horcruxes is NOT part of canon, since they only put it into the films because they failed to think their Half Blood Prince script through.
@@Casutama after reading your comment I've done a little research. In my opinion it's still from the rebounded curse, but it's when Voldy became a disembodied spirit, and since that bit of soul teared because he murdered Lily I think that bit split separate to the rest of his soul. Since we always hear how murder destroys a soul, so I think in this case a bit of soul could have separated because of Lily/James' murder (maybe even both) and inhabited the nearest viable living vessel Harry
@@damienchristopher5652 Yeah, I agree, it must be from the rebounded curse, but I think the lack of the complex ritual is why Voldemort never caught on to what happened.
The 🔮Prophecy🔮 states: "Neither can survive without the other. In the end, only one can kill the other." So speaks Lord BlackSpell, Master of the Elder Wand.
Can you do a video on aparation? Why doesn’t everyone do it? Why do you have to wait to be of age? Are the distance restrictions? Why couldn’t you just aparate to another continent?
Nagini is the only other living horcrux so my question is why didn’t he connect the dots between Her and him. He can possess both. See into both their heads, they can see into his. Pretty obvious. This is why he wasn’t a ravenclaw.
Very true. I believe Voldemort assumed that it was his connection to animals and snakes inperticulal that allowed him to possese her. Remember that Voldemort discovered he could make animals do his bidding when he lived in the orphanage.
As a Gryffindor, Ravenclaw isn't just about intellect. That is a stereotype. It is also about creativity and being open minded. This is why Cho Chang and Luna Lovegood are Ravenclaws, and Hermione not being a Ravenclaw.
Pretty obvious, nice
I always wondered why nagini didn’t die from Voldemort’s possession like the other animals were said to have been and then we find out she’s actually a human being trapped in the form of a snake from the Fantastic Beasts movies. That explains that little tidbit. But then you have yet even more questions. Questions like “why then didn’t Harry see inside her head and realize she was a human soul herself?” Or why when Nagini drank the polyjuice to transform into Bathilda Bagshot was she so clumsy and fumbly as if she didn’t know how to operate the human form she was in when clearly she did know because she is a human after all. This is the problem you create when you go and make prequels and add “Lore” to the existing cannon with pre existing characters. It’s not like Newt Scamander where we only seen his name once. Nagini was an active role in the potter story. When you try to add more depth you have to be careful not to create plot holes. For as careful as Rowling was/is she does make pretty blatant mistakes. The biggest one so far is making Credence a Dumbledore. When we know Albus had one brother and one sister. Unless she purposely wants us to think she doesn’t know what she’s doing but it’s gonna be hard to work around the known existing cannon. Credence has an age and the timeline doesn’t work out. But we will see
Maybe he thought the connection came from the twin cores in their wands
It was right under his nose.....oh wait
**Insert voldy laughing gif**
@@DrewWutsit *EH HEH HEH*
*If it wasn't for those meddling kids!* Oh wait wrong franchise
Oh wait I don’t have a nose
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I'm pretty sure voldemort left the smart part of his soul in the diadam...
1TZ M3HH do you Think he has a that clever part? I dont
Piphans Nibe but his younger self (tom) was in slughorn’s partys.
i do think he’s smart but he doesn’t use his brain because he has at least %5 of his soul in him, which means he isn’t fully human so he doesn’t use commonsense, he was just a power seeking body.
(ik your joking but the hermione part of me couldn’t hold itself :’h )
@@chaengychae1106 Actually that was the point of this whole joke was that he was smart as a kid so what the hell happened 🤣🤣
if he was smart he wouldn't have split his soul giving up the one thing that might have helped him rule. the only thing his father ever gave him. The face.
What an irony. Horocruxes kept him alive and another was killing him.
You know what is most Interesting? Harry was holding the 8th part of Voldemort's soul. By Harry becoming a Horcrux, Voldemort lost the magic number 7 for his soul fragments forever. From then onward his downward spiral started.
Completely unrelated but can a horcrux work against the dementors kiss since they have a piece of their soul still in existence?
Voldemort: The Undisputed King of Irony!!
Ironic... He could save his Horcrux from death, but not himself...
Voldemort never knew Harry is a horcrux since he didn’t use the spell to create a horcrux, he also was too immersed in evil to notice and technically, he made a inside soul, putting in in Harry’s body
By the time Voldemort went to kill Harry, he had 6 horcruxes already. So when he tried to kill Harry and the curse rebounded destroying his body, he was too weak, and to disoriented to know what had happened to him. He wandered around as a formless, dark mist seeking refuge and some way to sustain himself. His horcruxes kept him living as that mist for some time.....until he made a devil's pact with Quirrel.
Having already created 6 horcruxes, Voldemort only had 1.5% of his soul left. His attempt on Harry cut in half again, leaving him with 0.75% and Harry with 0.75% of his soul.
So by the time Voldemort faced Harry in their final duel, he had practically no soul left.
Calculate again pls. Nagini was made after Harry. So Harry was the 6. Horcruxe
Milchael - I thought Nagini was made before Harry...when Harry was made valdemort had no body, therefore no wand. Therefore magic to a minimum compared to when he could yield a wand.. Was nagini horocrux made when the keeper of the Riddle house was killed?
@@mastertommy6879 jk rowling said voldemort used bertha jonkins death to make nagini a horcrux
All that math and yet, nobody can point me to the part in the book where it talks about what fraction of the soul is split off when you're creating a Horcrux. As I see it, canonically, we get information about Horcruxes by Slughorn, Dumbledore, and Hermione.
Hermione doesn't talk about the process at all other than how terrible and evil it is.
Slughorn uses the following terminology: "part of the soul", "split your soul", "killing rips the soul apart", "the torn portion", "divide the soul", "ripping it into seven pieces". (and variations thereof)
Dumbledore usese the following terminology: "rip his soul", "tear his soul in two", "split his soul", "fragment of soul", "piece of his soul", "part of the self" (and variations thereof).
Now, since splitting something in 2 (or 7) parts doesn't automatially mean that the 2 (or 7) parts must all be equal in size, I don't feel that we get any canonical information on which fraction making a Horcrux splits the soul by. Therefore, we doN't have any grounds based on which we could determine any percentages of Voldemort's soul.
Thanks for the explanation.
In the books Harry cannot feel the horcruxes, he finds them because he and dumbledore had discussed them in the 6th book
Yes! I think this is one reason why "Harry Potter Folklore" has such a small sub count and view. They literally lack the quality of Super Carlin Brother of Semous Gourmet.
Anik Samiur Rahman since when is 444k not a lot of subscribers...
@@MyBoomStick1 Compare it to SuperCarlinBrothers.
I think the movies added Harry feeling the horcruxes being destroyed or just being around them for the more dramatic effect. Hell, I’ve always been wondered if in the 2nd movie when he destroyed the Diary, the camera shows his face for a few seconds and while it was the first horcrux destroyed, in my head I was could see that he felt a little bit of “what the hell” 😂😂
I was thinking the same thing but maybe once he knew bout them and opened his mind to looking for them is when he connected to them. Idk
In reference to Voldemort not being the master of the elder wand when he was overpowering Harry...well I think you are referencing the final battle in the movie where Voldemort is just kicking the high holy crap out of Harry in the castle. That never happened in the book. In the book after Voldemort thought he had murdered Harry, Harry slipped under the invisibility cloak and fought off the death eaters from underneath trying to make his way to Voldemort and when Voldemort tried to murder Mrs. Weasley, Harry casted a shield charm to protect Mrs. Weasley thus revealing himself to be alive for the first time where they circled each other and Harry revealed all the mistakes Voldemort had made. No physical altercation ever took place and that’s why the Elder Wand never recognized Voldemort as it’s true master
not to be weird but out of mild curiosity what does ur name mean??
@HDD Compa thats deep as hell man! Nice one.
Voldemort never physically beats Harry in the books and since harry never fought him in the woods nor did he die he was never defeated by him. Therefore the remained the elder wands master.
Another theory also goes that the elder wand was made by death, so someone like Voldemort who feared death more than anything could never master it as long as someone else had a connection to it who feared death far less.
That doesn't make sense though because the first killing for the elder wand was Antioch being killed in his sleep.
In the books, Voldemort never really physically fight and hence overpowered Harry. Everything that happened meanwhile in the movies actually happened while they were circling themselves. 🤦🏾♂️
Abhijeet singh was thinking the same. As if He Only watched the movie and not Read the books There lol
I liked it. V just snapped and started going muggle on Harry’s behind, something he’d hate himself for stopping too, but he’s that fed up with having Harry escape him. He’s bad at killing for a mass murderer.
But Voldmort did technically did by killing Harry, so shouldnt that make Voldemort the master since he technically defeated Harry?
But Harry didn’t win the wand’s allegiance by overpowering Draco, but by disarming him. Draco’s wand told (so to speak) the Elder Wand that Draco was disarmed.
Chairmanmeow Voldemort didn’t defeat Harry in the forest, he died willingly
Abhijeet singh I agree, he bases too much on the movies
He didn’t even know that his Horcruxes are taking away from their place 🤷🏻♂️
He shouldve just used muggel technology and send 1 of his horcruxes into orbit or space, boom immortal
@@TwSkyll muggle tech was supposed to be a disgrace to the wizarding world so nah
Paraduze's StreamSniper good point
This is why I wonder if Voldemort made a horcrux out of his own wand; that way, he would only need one.
@@TwSkyll or a spell to make things go up to enter orbit
Next video: Why Ron was never acknowledged by everyone when he saved Ginny, the stone and destroyed a horcrux . If your wondering how he helped save Ginny, if he diddent break his wand he and Harry both would of lost their memory’s causing Ginny to be stuck there forever and bringing Voldemort to power.
When did ron save ginny and a stone?
I have actually wondered that
He didn't save Ginny...
Ginny isn’t a stone smh
More like why Ron was never acknowledged for anything
So the night Voldemort went to Godrics Hollow, he still had a nose and still looked human compared to his rebirth?
He was quite deformed, blurry and unhuman, but yeah, he probably didn't look so bad.
But when Muggle children saw him they run away screaming, so it couldn't be a nice view.
@@MoniiKaq Young Tom Riddle was a nice view. 😍
From what I gathered, he did indeed already look the way he does now, which kinda adds up when you look at his appearance in The Sorcerer's Stone
I'm pretty sure Harry was his last horcrux
Harry Potter Folkore, for the next video: History of Legilimency (JK Rowling's version of telepathic mind-reading) and Occlumency (mental defenses).
I created a silver lime wand with the Mind Stone. I call it the "Seer Wand", this topic is perfect for my wandlore experiment.
I'm just going say it now...
I love your voice!
Listening to you talk about my favorite fandom is so therapeutic!
Not even joking
When could Harry see or hear the horcruxes? Yes, in the movies he could hear them but that’s only because they left out so much vital information about the horcruxes out of the sixth movie that it was a necessary addition. I’m speaking strictly from the books information. The only times Harry saw them was when he saw inside Voldemort’s mind while Voldy was thinking about them. As far as hearing them, Harry literally picked up 3 of the horcruxes before he knew what they really were and he didn’t “hear” them then (even in the movies which makes his newfound ability the the last two really weird) The diary in the second book, the locket while they were cleaning out Grimald Place, and the diadem when he was hiding the Half Blood Prince’s book in the room of requirement. Also, when did Voldemort physically overpower Harry? Again, in the movies maybe, but that was an addition as well. That didn’t happen in the books. So what am I missing?
Exactly what I was gonna say, did he even read the books? 🤦♀️
@@LalaZta there are some people who never read the books, but we've all seen the movies; so he tends to lean more heavily towards the film version.
Next video: what if voldemort knew that harry was a horcrux
Bada bing bada boom Harry never came out of the womb
@@endster1122 😂😂😂
he'd probably try to keep him imprisoned to keep working as his horcrux
He'd probably try to capture him, so he could restrain him and start out with killing the horcrux inside him and then kill him. I don't think he would imprison him since Tom marked Harry as his equal in the first wizarding war. Doing so meant that they - according to the prophecy - couldn't both live at the same time and neither could achieve what they wanted. One had to die and the hands of the other.
Damn, this is a very good idea. I vote for this video.
Just in case you all forgot Harry never destroyed the ring Dumbledore did.
I love your videos. My husband and I watch them and then discuss our own thoughts. It's part of how we keep our communication strong. Thank you!
Your idea of the Horrocruxes trying to join makes sense, however Dumbledore clearly explained that Voldemort can't feel them, not even when they get destroyed, and Harry can't feel them either; he also said Voldemort is not any weaker because of this! The silly part is talking about "percentages of a soul", that's a little ridiculous, isn't it? You're talking about an immaterial thing, not something you can see, touch or put on a chopping board!
When you said the elder wand should have accepted Voldemort after he overpowered Harry, I disagree in the prophesy it said they’re equals.
yes, I also don't even think he overpowered Harry. Harry overpowered Voldemort when the horcrux inside him got destroyed by Voldemort himself right?
Well said! I especially loved the part when you explained how the soul fragments are trying to find each other to become whole once again. How that was the reason why Harry could hear the Horcruxes, the soul fragments want to be found.I never heard anyone explain it that way. That theory is perfection.
That theory is nonsense. Good of him to come up with it, I'm not saying it isn't clever. But it's nonsense because canonically, Harry CAN'T hear or feel or see visions of the other Horcruxes.
It was just lazy writing because they realised that for once, their usual omitting of half of the relevant information in a film (in this case Half Blood Prince) came back to bite them in the ass because without all those scenes, film-Harry suddenly didn't have enough information to actually hunt the Horcruxes, so they gave him that "magic Horcrux touch". The reason why Harry can hear the Horcruxes is simple: Terrible screen-writing, nothing more to it.
Do a video about who wizards used magic before wands invented.
The pieces calling to each other, wanting to rejoin. I like that.
but it's complete nonsense, because it's not true - canonically, Harry CAN'T hear or feel or see visions of the other Horcruxes. It was just lazy writing because they realised that for once, their usual omitting of half of the relevant information in a film (in this case Half Blood Prince) came back to bite them in the ass because without all those scenes, film-Harry suddenly didn't have enough information to actually hunt the Horcruxes, so they gave him that "magic Horcrux touch". So "why can Harry see visions of the Horcruxes"? The answer is simple: Terrible screen-writing, nothing more to it.
Another great video Dean keep up the good work and great commentary as always Dean and I hope your staying safe during this pandemic
I think it was explained a little. Dumbledore said it was due to Voldemort's hubris. Voldemort never considered what he thought as less than himself. He considered Harry as weak, and assumed all Harry's accomplishments Dumbledore's.
Personally I never thought about this scenario. But it is a really interesting subject I like how deeply this channel does research into the world of hogwarts.
Omg it makes so much more sense now thx a lot
J k rowling went to almost twenty publishers before she got her book finally published a very king hearted and dedicated woman
Next video: what happened to voldemorts body when he died the first time.... was it buried some where if so where??? Or was it cremated???? Just what did happen as surely with voldemorts knowledge and desire to defeat death he could of found or would of found away to attach his spirit back into its original vessel just like the potion/spell he used to give himself a body back was of his own creation
I thought it disintegrated or smth when the killing curse rebounded on him
Voldemort possessed animals like snakes, but they would die and then he had to keep possessing other living things until he finds Professor Quirrell.
Same thing that happens when you try to kill mrs. Weasley's daughter? Lol dust. Thanos snap
Hmmm, very interesting concepts. I have to think about the first part for a while. In terms of the Horcruxes wanting to be found, I'm not sure. If they are ripped apart by such a heinous act, and the person who committed that act has no remorse, I don't feel like they could ever be reunited together as one again. I feel like they can sense each other because they are part of the same soul.
They can sense each other because of terrible screen-writing, nothing more to it.
Canonically, Harry CAN'T hear or feel or see visions of the other Horcruxes. It was just lazy writing because they realised that for once, their usual omitting of half of the relevant information in a film (in this case Half Blood Prince) came back to bite them in the ass because without all those scenes, film-Harry suddenly didn't have enough information to actually hunt the Horcruxes, so they gave him that "magic Horcrux touch".
In the book Harry never heard them...the “hearing” was put into the book as a way to explain how Harry knew what they were. Though the explanation made is a good idea if that was done in the books
mwcarolina put into the movie*
I love how most questions involving why Voldemort didn't realize "xyz" can be answered by Voldemort didn't think
Would you rather the cursed child be canon or JK Rowling’s twitter be canon
Hockey Zombie ummmm
IMO if it's not in the 7 books it's not canon.
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Definitely The Cursed Child, JK Rowling’s twitter is too problematic.
JK's twitter. The book that shall not be named is so terrible
Harry cannot hear the horcruxes in the books. And when he had visions of the horcruxes it was because Voldemort was thinking about them.
Brilliant analysis again! The idea of the horcruxes calling out to Harry to be found, so that they may join each other, is simply genius. I love it. I believe it.
It's a NONSENSE theory. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with the theory itself, but it's complete nonsense, because it's not true - canonically, Harry CAN'T hear or feel or see visions of the other Horcruxes. I don't know why he's entertaining things that aren't canon at all.
It was just lazy writing because they realised that for once, their usual omitting of half of the relevant information in a film (in this case Half Blood Prince) came back to bite them in the ass because without all those scenes, film-Harry suddenly didn't have enough information to actually hunt the Horcruxes, so they gave him that "magic Horcrux touch". Harry can sense the Horcruxes in the film for one simple reason: Terrible screen-writing, nothing more to it.
The elder wand is not seeking for a master. The elder wand is seeking for power, so once Voldemort became weaker and weaker, the wand just "decided" not to "listen to him".
And simply chose another wizard
No. That's not how wands work. Not even elder wand. The wand declined to kill it's true master in the end recasting the spell on Voldy himself.
You sure havent Read the books if thats your understanding
Please read the book. Harry disarmed its true master. Who had disarmed Dumbledore.
Wands choose who to listen to. Even Olivander said so. Wands choose the wizard/witch and they can change their alligence. It's not common for them to change once they have chosen but it did happen in the book series.
After sitting at home all these days I rewatched HP 😂
Can you do “What if Ginny did die in the chamber of secrets, and the young handsome Tom Riddle came back”
Actually Harry disarmed Draco, and Voldemort never disarmed Harry so that’s how Voldemort didn’t earn the elder wand
I NEEDED this, THANK YOU ❤️
Was it confirmed that you split the soul in 2 halves when creating a horcrux? I remember a “piece” of the soul
Could you do another video on Voldemort, but more so on horcruxes.
Is there any physical link between them?
How doesn’t Voldemort know that his horcruxes have been moved?
How can a human be a horcrux, what are the effects it has etc.
Concerning your question "How can a human be a Horcrux?".....
Nagini highlights the fact that animate beings can serve as vessels for a piece of one's soul.
@@MrJordwalk Its stupid to have a animal horcrux because it will eventually die
I don't think you should take Dean's word for anything concerning Horcruxes since he has spread so much wrong information in this video by making a theory about why Harry could sense the Horcruxes when canonically, Harry CAN'T hear or feel or see visions of the other Horcruxes. I don't know why he's entertaining things that aren't canon at all.
It was just lazy writing because they realised that for once, their usual omitting of half of the relevant information in a film (in this case Half Blood Prince) came back to bite them in the ass because without all those scenes, film-Harry suddenly didn't have enough information to actually hunt the Horcruxes, so they gave him that "magic Horcrux touch". Harry can sense the Horcruxes in the film for one simple reason: Terrible screen-writing, nothing more to it.
So to answer two of your questions:
* There is no link between the Horcruxes, physical, psychic, or otherwise, other than sharing a fraction of the same soul
* Voldemort doesn't know his Horcruxes have been moved because
a) as far as we know, it isn't possible at all to sense Horcruxes (nobody can do so canonically)
b) even if were possible for the Horcruxes' creator to sense them, Dumbledore explains that Voldemort couldn't sense anything because of how damaged his soul already was
Casutama this explanation is perfectly in depth. Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions!
Voldemort was so disconnected from the parts of his soul that he couldn't even sense when they were destroyed. So he wouldn't have known that after creating so many Horcruxes his soul was at its breaking point. Dumbledore also suggests that murdering Lily and James and trying to kill 1 year old baby Harry were acts so evil that not only did the Avada Kedavra curse rebounding on Voldemort destroy his body reducing him to a spirit but tore his soul apart one more time and it attached itself to Harry.
and to answer the end question the reason the Elder Wand didn't become Voldemort's in the movie could be answered in 2 ways
1. Because the book and movie's versions of their final encounter went much differently but the movie still needed to follow the book on the whole elder wand being Harry's bit.
2. Voldemort never took a wand from Harry, but Harry took Draco's which is the most logical answer for the movie's slight inconsistency.
Well your sort of correct when it comes to ownership of wands.
Draco won the elder wand from Dumbeldore becausw he was capable of disarming him. Harry in turn disarmed Draco, resulting in the elder wand and Draco's wand belonging to Harry.
Voldemort defeated Harry in battle. But since Harry did not die and was not disarmed, all of the wands loyal to harry, remained as such
Harry had more of Voldemort’s soul in him than Voldemort did. Maybe that’s why he could sense the horcruxes. They thought he was Voldemort.
There is no canonical evidence that Harry had more of Voldemort's soul inside of him than Voldemort did himself. Anyway, neither that nor the reason he puts forth in his video are why Harry could sense the Horcruxes. He could sense them for one reason only: Terrible screen-writing, nothing more to it.
CCanonically, Harry CAN'T hear or feel or see visions of the other Horcruxes. It was just lazy writing because they realised that for once, their usual omitting of half of the relevant information in a film (in this case Half Blood Prince) came back to bite them in the ass because without all those scenes, film-Harry suddenly didn't have enough information to actually hunt the Horcruxes, so they gave him that "magic Horcrux touch".
Random thought but given the current situation in the world, and just watching Voldemort slap Harry about, I can't help but wonder how often Voldemort actually cleans his hands/himself? Is there a spell for it or does he just roll about smelling like a hobo?
I think he takes luxurious baths, he likes pleasure, so I see lots of baths
If Harry was a horcurx, then why Basilix fang didn't destroy it in Chamber of Secrets ?
It would have, if the Phoenix didn't drop his tears on his arm
He was healed by the phoenix
Because to destroy a horcrux, the item holding said horcrux must be destroyed completely. i.e. Slytherin's locket itself was obliterated, "killed" by the sword of Gryffindor. Destroy the container/construct that holds the soul shard and you destroy the horcrux. Which as we know is difficult because it's very dark magic. Harry wasn't destroyed completely because as folks above said, Fawkes.
Remember, though, that in the book, Voldemort and Harry didn't have that physical brawl. That's movie-only and I don't believe the movies are canon. It's kind of...abusive? Like, remember, Voldemort is either in or verging on his 70's (can't remember how old he was) and Harry's still a teenager. Not cool, Voldy.
Voldemort never disarmed Harry which is why the Elder Wand never switched allegiance from Harry to Voldemort. But even then, "the wand chooses the wizard", and perhaps the Elder Wand sensed that Voldemort was not strong.
Video idea . Might be interesting to do a theory video of what many different characters would see if they faced a boggart .
Wait but Voldemort (in the books) didn't find out that Harry was looking for the horcruxes bc of their connection, he found out about it when they broke into Gringotts and the goblins of the bank told him that Harry Ron and Hermione had taken Hufflepuff's cup from the vault. It is not the same at all.
I want to know why they could fix broken things in an instant, (like Harry's glasses),broken or missing bones, heal dismemberment and just about all other major medical emergencies short of mental injury, but they couldn't correct Harry's eyesight?
In the fan fic that I help edit, that's part of what they did when they healed Harry from his injuries and the effects of ten years of neglect.
I wonder what would have changed if Voldemort found out about Harry being a part of his soul
The Elder Wand plays on the weaknesses of the soul of its wielder. It didn't want Voldemort as its master because there was nothing to latch onto. It might have as well have 'felt' that in his case, an animal had come along and picked it up with its mouth.
I have this related but SOT theory about the past and horcruxes. In ancient times, a group of champions, considered a model and prototype for the Aurors, emerged and each died doing an act of supreme good. They are remembered as kind of a wizarding Avengers/JLA, but in truth, they were a group of reformed Dark Magic Users who each followed Herpo's model and gained immortality through Horcruxes. Immediately, though, they became repulsed by what they had done. Food, companionship, all of life's pleasures meant much less with their souls no longer intact. They resolved to reform and gain their souls unity back by good works, which in most cases, means death. They also moved to suppress all Horcrux knowledge, and they would know where to find it, in order that no one make their mistake again. This is why Tom had trouble making some of his. Also, these reformed champions didn't have his lingering fear of death, so his losses of sensation were bearable if not welcome.
Bruce Wayne to Ra's A Ghul: "I was wrong. You don't cheat death - you cower in front of it!" - Batman Beyond, "Out Of The Past".
If you have a (human) corpse and make a Horcrux out of it, is the body alive again or not? If yes, then you have a second you
I think it wouldn't revive an already dead body, and furthermore, a corpse decays, it would ultimately result in the destruction of the horcrux via putrefaction.
@@limalicious Make the Horcrux an inferi. Also, no it would not spring to life. The book was a normal book but had extra magic for the communication thing. The ring, diadem, locket, cup, did not become alive.
Ah, the things we noodle over in quarantine. I have to admit, I have never thought of this. But I am now! Great question! ♡
Voldemort should have smelt a rat but he couldn't.
Nice! One of your best yet!
but bogus. It's complete nonsense, because it's not true - canonically, Harry CAN'T hear or feel or see visions of the other Horcruxes. I don't know why he's entertaining things that aren't canon at all.
It was just lazy writing because they realised that for once, their usual omitting of half of the relevant information in a film (in this case Half Blood Prince) came back to bite them in the ass because without all those scenes, film-Harry suddenly didn't have enough information to actually hunt the Horcruxes, so they gave him that "magic Horcrux touch". Harry can sense the Horcruxes in the film for one simple reason: Terrible screen-writing, nothing more to it.
People i've been struggeling with this for some time now. Voldemort wanted to make 7 horcruxes but if Harry was an accident, shouldn't there be another one?
Twan Westland what do you mean
Twan Westland, Dumbledore said that he thought Voldemort was going to use Harry’s death to make his final horcrux. Still, it doesn’t make sense because Nagini presumably became a horcrux somewhere between books one and four.
He only wanted 6. The 7th piece was to be the part that remained in his body. He thought Nagini was his 6th, but he had already unknowingly made Harry a horcrux, so Nagini was actually the 7th.
According to Dumbledore, Voldemort couldn't touch Harry because of the power of love. If Voldemort can't bear him, how can his soul survive in Harry?
Hi I am also one of the harry potter series’s fans. I had these kind of questions in my mind after watching all the Harry potter movies and I came across your channel. I must tell you your research and logic to explain something which is not explained in the movies is outstanding and brilliant. After watching or I should say after learning more about these details is so satisfactory and I am obsessed with your channel. ♥️
Your theory about soul trying to be one together seems quite right, like drops coming together in the sky to form clouds, kind of.
Q:how did Voldemort get girlfriends
A:he slithered into their dms 🤣
Until they got annoyed of him sticking his nose in their private Business.
@@Ilyena so then he cut his nose to get 'em back 😂😂😂
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The thing I don’t fully understand is how Voldemort was able to Come back in the Graveyard. I mean, Did he Need a horcrux (in This case Harry) to make This all work or is There another explaination? Voldemort didn’t know Harry was a horcrux. If not for Harry being a horcrux, How would the ritual have worked? I suppose hè needs to like collect his soul From a horcrux for HIM to Come back right?
That is intuitive to me as well
He manifested as the part of his soul that was still left in his body, possessing snakes and such in albania until wormtail found him and helped him regain a body (the tiny voldemort wormtail dumped into the potion) He needed to get his old body back, which is the point of the potion. He needed blood of the enemy, forcibly taken, (which is why he needed harry, also to circumvent Lily potter's sacrificial magic), flesh of the servant and a bone from his father
Edit: I would imagine the process of splitting the soul prevents it from moving on into the wizarding afterlife, which is why voldy was able to take that form of the part of the soul that was left in his body, instead of that part of his soul dying with his body or moving on, after he failed to kill harry.
Refer to the scene where harry dies and talks to Dumbledore, and sees "a part of voldemort sent here to die"
The potion needed blood of the enemy. Nothing to do with horcrux.
Remember, Dumbledore was almost triumphant when Voldemort chose to use that spell and Harry’s blood. He said Voldemort ignores magic he doesn’t consider powerful like anything to do with love. When he used Harry’s blood, he unwittingly made himself a horcrux for Harry, binding Harry to the mortal world. When he “killed” Harry, he destroyed his own horcrux as well. This is what the prophecy meant when it said the Dark Lord would mark him as his equal and he (Harry) would possess power the Dark Lord knew not.
Shelly Brown he didnt make Harry a horcrux, i think it was something like Lillys protection being in his blood so when Voldemort used the blood to create his body it made it added another layer of protection for Harry because they both shared the ‘protection blood’ so i guess like the twin wands not being able to kill each other or being around someone with the shared ‘protection blood’ kept him safe. The reason he had to stay with the Dursleys is because of this.
weeeell Dumbelor tells Harry in the first and second years that Voldmort transferred his powers to him as a child when his parent killed. so dumbelor almost tells that harry is a horcrux
Hey you can do a vedio about phoenix life and how it finally ends it life or was it immortal and also that could any wizard or witch could use the phoenix to become immortal
Have you ever done a video covering the identity of the death eater who killed Hedwig?
It was Snape because Hedwig was giving the real harry away btw yes he did
I thought it was Snape as well, but didn't know if we'd gotten a definitive answer. I'm a new sub (like really new, as in last week lol). I'll look for the video. Thanks🙂.
@@kaidenreece3529 can't be. Snape was chasing Lupin and George who flew towards a different direction. And btw, Hedwig didn't give Harry away. It was his use of Expelliarmus on Stan Shunpike. Many death eaters knew that was his signature spell as Lupin pointed out.
Voldemort: Harry Potter, I have got a army.
Harry: I have got a nose.
Tom Riddle was not a strategist. He was intelligent, but he lacked strategic competence. Also look up the trope: villainous bteakdown. After a bad thing happens, the bad guy gets less and less competent. Sure he can perform these awesome magical feats, but, slowly, he just becomes this wrathful megalomaniac who utilizes almost exclusively the killing curse, belittles his followers, which is the main reason Malfoys turncoated last minute. His organization fell apart as soon as he died. Usually an organization dies before its leader. Not so with Tom Riddle.
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Pandadude12345 are you kidding?? Tom riddle was THE strategist! Every book you see what a master he is at strategy. He kills his father & grandparents framing his uncle morphin for the murders, his death eaters destroyed the order of the Phoenix before Harry came along, he took over the ministry of Magic, he hoodwinker the tri wizard tournament to get his body back, he planted images in Harrys mind all year to trick him to go after the prophecy, he carefully manipulated people to get himself the founders heirlooms. He plans a meeting with Dumbledore to secretly hide the diadem at hogwarts Etc. Almost everything he does involes strategy & it always workes! Except killing Harry, but thats not the point.
Great great video!! I agree that Voldemort indeed became weaker the more horcruxes he made, after all the more times an item is taken apart the more brittle it becomes!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
This raised an interesting thought. We don't know the details of how a horcrux is created. What if there's a spell that the murderer has to cast on him/herself just prior to the act. Thus drawing out the unstable fragment created by the murder. At which time the killer then casts another spell drawing the soul fragment into the intended object. With Harry, Voldemort never got to cast the horcrux creating spell as he was now dead or deadish. The fragment of his soul released by the prior murders of James and Lilly latched onto Harry.
Interesting follow up thought. What happened to Voldemort's body after he attempted to kill Harry? The killing curse doesn't destroy the body. What was he planning on using as horcrux after killing Harry?
If the horvruxes wanted to join with Harry, I don't believe the locket woulve tried to drown Harry.
A good point, but if I recall correctly, it wasn't trying to drown him perse, but trying to avoid the sword of Gryffindor since it had the power to destroy it. So it was more akin to self preservation. Although, this opens a new line of questions, like, why didn't the fragment of Voldemort inside Harry try to avoid it as well? Though I suppose you could argue that since Harry was in control of his own body with his own soul, he overpowered Voldemort.
The locket was trying to save itself by staying away from the sword.
@@joeschook792 It's a complete bogus theory anyway because it's not true - canonically, Harry CAN'T hear or feel or see visions of the other Horcruxes. I don't know why he's entertaining things that aren't canon at all.
It was just lazy writing because they realised that for once, their usual omitting of half of the relevant information in a film (in this case Half Blood Prince) came back to bite them in the ass because without all those scenes, film-Harry suddenly didn't have enough information to actually hunt the Horcruxes, so they gave him that "magic Horcrux touch". Harry can sense the Horcruxes in the film for one simple reason: Terrible screen-writing, nothing more to it.
Great video once again my friend. Great work!
First, Voldy was not desperate to regain a body. He had to have Harry..worm tail offered to find any wizard who was his enemy. Second, Dubledore explained that he was so immersed in evil and that he’d split his soul so much that the part that went into Harry was not missed. Lastly, Harry could not feel the other horcruxes. That was a stupid part of the movie but not the book.
What if Harry Potter had met Severus Snape in the last Underground Chamber instead of Quirinus Quirrell.
It's not that big a mystery that he couldn't tell that Harry was a horcrux, he could never tell when one of them was destroyed either (in the books)
Good logical deductions, yes it is most curious now that you mention it about the fact tha Voldemort "disarmed" Harry Yet Harry still remained the Master ! ....but harry never raised his wand in that instance and yes Voldemort was barely "alive" with barely a soul left.Only what was within Harry and Nagini to tether him to the World. Perhaps that is how Harry's hold as the Master was retained? !!! Certainly something I have never stopped to ponder and consider, so well done.
Right because for one to own someone else wand they have to disarm the onwer of the wand to then be the master of the wand. And that didn't happen. Voldemort just "killed" harry never disarmed him
I always thought that Harry has visions of the horcruxes because Voldemort thinks of them
It's simple, Voldemort was never more powerful than Harry, and here's why:
He was obscenely more skilled in dark magic, sure, but never more powerful as the wand is a DEATHLY HALLOW, it isn't looking for his master, it's looking for death itself, which is a spirit entity.
Riddle wasn't the master of death as he believed, he was the master of mortal life. He wasn't the spirit entity the wand was looking for, after so many horcruxes, there was pretty much no spirit left, only a vague consciousness. The wand would never work for him. But, in his lack of compassion, Riddle was too arrogant to see this fact.
Harry was the true master of death, since he embraced it, his soul was complete and he understood death for what it was.
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One theory I could see for why the Elder Wand didn’t change allegiance to Voldemort after he beat up Harry was simply the fact that in the end, the Elder Wand knew Voldemort could not beat Harry, that no matter how badly he wounded or harmed Harry, because of him possessing Harry’s blood, Voldemort could never truly kill Harry
Voldemort didn't have a weakened connection to magic. He was just arrogant and foolish. I do believe he had less awareness to the shards of his soul but that was because he had literally ripped them out.
Why didn't Voldemort throw his horcruxes in the ocean?
His ego and love of symbolism meant he had to hide them in places significant to his past.
Great content As always😊In order of the Phoenix after voldy took over Harry’s body in the ministry why did he not sense the horcrux then and when did hermoine know thanks
Say you were a master dueler and won the allegiance of let's say 10 wands. Could you ziptie them all together to create a super wand?
i think so. theres a point in the 7th book (i think it's in malfoy manor) where harry uses 3 wands to stun someone, and the power of the spell is much greater and more forceful than if he used just one
Thats like comparing an ak47 to a minigun. In the end the results are conclusive.
Another idea for a video or something worth looking into but was the Marauder's map a Horcrux like Riddle's diary? and if not what was it?
What I want to know is when Dumbledore first suspect Harry's a
Horcrux because it's kinda obvious he atleast suspects it during the order of the Phoenix when harry sees nagini bite Arthur weasley did he suspect that before hand or for that matter when did Dumbledore discover voldy was making them did he know it when harry gave him the diary right after killing the basilisk
What do you mean by "Harry was able to hear and Horcruxes and know where they are" ? Half of the last book is about Harry not having a clue where to find them and that creates the fight with Ron. The Horcruxes are clearly described as talking to the people around them, by distillating negative thoughts like the locket or taking physical form like the diary or the locket again. At the end of book 7, Harry only knows that the last Horcrux is in Hogwarts because Voldemort forgets to concentrate against Harry's mind (which he does since end of book 5 according to Dumbledore) and Harry feels how worried and angry he is about his Horcruxes and how all his thoughts concentrate on the places where they are hidden.
And of course, as already mentioned by other viewers, Voldemort never defeats Harry in combat, physically or otherwise. He has no reason to claim his wand.
I agree with you 1000%!!!
He's talking about the atrocity that are the films. Since they spent half the sixth film concentrating on the romance stuff and spent a good portion of their time having death eaters surrounding the burrow and burning it to the ground and only show TWO of the memories Dumbledore shows Harry (the one in the orphanage and the one from Slughorn) they suddently noticed for the last two films that they didn't give film-Harry enough information to actually be able to find any Horcruxes. Cue "Harry has a hitherto undetected ability to sense Horcruxes". It was complete nonsense and if you haven't yet seen the films, please stay away from them. They'll only ruin your day. (Especially anything after the 2nd film).
Can someone explain this to me? If Lily's sacrifice prevented Voldemort from touching him, shouldn't that mean that if he picked up a horcrux (the journal in this instance) that it should have crumbled into ash? And with that logic, shouldn't the shard of soul inside harry have either died, or make him immune to this power of harry, since a part of his soul latched onto harry AFTER Lily's sacrifice? Excuse me while I go nurse this nose bleed
riddle never overpowered harry imo. harry kept getting back up when it was voldemorts intention to strike him down. harry gained the allegiance of the elderwand cause his intent was achieved. voldemorts wasent. since harry stood up and kept going.
How was he not aware? He had full intentions of making a Horcrux upon Harry's death meaning when he casted the killing curse at Harry he must've had that piece of soul ready to be put into whatever object he intended to make as the last Horcrux (most probably the Sword of Gryffindor, which I speculate was revealed to Fabian and Gideon before they died). So when it rebounded, wouldn't it have just been common sense that it would've latched onto the nearest possible container? (Harry) How could he be so dense to not know that? Because he had full recollection of that night, proven when it showed Harry taking Voldemort's perspective of the night Harry's parent were killed, up to and including when the curse rebounded. And wasn't Harry's ability to hear the Horcruxes only in the movies? If so, then can that ability really be considered canon?
You severly misunderstand how making a Horcrux usually works. Everything conveyed in the books suggests that creating a Horcrux requires a complex and difficult magical ritual. Simply killing someone and thereby splitting your soul isn't enough. He intended to use the bit of his soul he split of his soul when he killed Harry to create a Horcrux, but he couldn't have known that a piece of soul could latch onto another being without the indubitably complex incantations and process.
I'm completely with you on your second point, though - Harry's being able to hear the Horcruxes is NOT part of canon, since they only put it into the films because they failed to think their Half Blood Prince script through.
@@Casutama after reading your comment I've done a little research. In my opinion it's still from the rebounded curse, but it's when Voldy became a disembodied spirit, and since that bit of soul teared because he murdered Lily I think that bit split separate to the rest of his soul. Since we always hear how murder destroys a soul, so I think in this case a bit of soul could have separated because of Lily/James' murder (maybe even both) and inhabited the nearest viable living vessel Harry
@@damienchristopher5652 Yeah, I agree, it must be from the rebounded curse, but I think the lack of the complex ritual is why Voldemort never caught on to what happened.
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The 🔮Prophecy🔮 states: "Neither can survive without the other. In the end, only one can kill the other."
So speaks Lord BlackSpell, Master of the Elder Wand.
Can you do a video on aparation? Why doesn’t everyone do it? Why do you have to wait to be of age? Are the distance restrictions? Why couldn’t you just aparate to another continent?
I don't consider it canon that Harry can see visions or feel the other horcruxes because that was the movies and not the books.
It isn't canon!
This is a really good video i love your channel
Voldemort didn't know there was a second way to do the equation essentially, or he would've been prepared.
Very interesting video!
Good boy you listened to my warning.
Danielle Dewitt what?
Sans My warning about pointless raid ads he was doing.
He said "get comfy" and I had to check how long the video was going to be.