Doom Challenges Deemed Impossible Update
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- The original impossible Doom challenges video:
• Doom Challenges Deemed...
Zero Master's channel:
/ zeromaster
NightTerror's TNT MAP05 pacifist run:
• Final Doom: TNT Evilut...
JonaG's TNT MAP09 pacifist run:
• (TAS) TNT Map 09 STRON...
ClumsyDoomer's TNT MAP09 no-damage pacifist run:
• Video
David's TNT NM100S runs:
• TNT Evilution Nightmar...
Coincident's pacifist Icon of Sin analysis:
• Beating the Icon of Si...
Pleymo's Plutonia MAP30 pacifist run:
• Final Doom: The Pluton...
Classic DOOM demonstrating the save-load exploit:
• Nessus (Master Levels)...
Music used in order:
Fist Urethra (ft. j0e) by MegaSphere
Deep Into the Code by Bobby Prince
Sinister by Bobby Prince
Opening to Hell by Bobby Prince
More by Tom Mustaine
Sadistic by L.A. Sieben
Smells Like Burning Corpse by L.A. Sieben
Seasons of Insanity by James Paddock
Plurry by Brendan Bradley
Arse by MegaSphere
Icon Of put this map in the Bin by MegaSphere
Slaying at Night by MegaSphere
Grinding Teeth by MegaSphere
Master Levels MIDI pack:
megasphere.bandcamp.com/album...
00:00 Intro
00:28 The Ultimate Doom E4M3 100% Secrets
01:38 The Ultimate Doom E4M7 100% Secrets
02:35 Doom II MAP30 UV Pacifist
03:10 TNT: Evilution MAP05 UV Pacifist
04:50 TNT: Evilution MAP09 UV Pacifist
07:25 TNT: Evilution MAP26 UV Pacifist
08:37 TNT: Eviltuion MAP02 and MAP09 NM100S (A1s Shout Out)
09:13 Plutonia MAP07 UV Pacifist
10:05 Plutonia MAP30 UV Pacifist
10:57 Reflection
11:34 Master Levels MAP15 100% Kills
12:43 Master Levels MAP16 100% Secrets
13:23 Outro
Patreon:
/ decino - Ігри
I looked into void glides for TNT map09 pacifist some time ago, if it was possible to get out of bounds somewhere by the red key switch one could run across the void to the other side of the map in the horizontal direction and the vertical direction and reach the exit switch! Unfortunately the only geometry that could allow for the player to get into the void has issues with height differences making it impossible. So a "normal" playthrough seems to be the only way, where the pinky before blue key is the biggest problem. If a reliable way past the pinky could be found then maybe the rest could be done with enough infighting and patience, but overall that seems unlikely.
I also made some more progress on the E4M3 second torch secret, I managed to void glide using similar geometry that could give access to it, but it doesn't work because of different blockmap position as far as I know. Looks like it's impossible to actually leave if one could get there, so a single player demo is impossible. No useful void glide geometry exist at all for E4M7 so that secret cannot be triggered from the void.
I'd be extremely surprised if any of them were one day completed (ignoring the master levels, still haven't played them, heh), but there might be a tiny bit of hope for one of them, who knows :)
Yeah.
The man. The myth. The (absolute) legend.
The Chad God Lord Emperor and has spoken.
I swear that Zero Master isn't human, he's some kind of speedrunning supercomputer! Got to be!
This is the Way
The most impossible DooM challenge is to actually stop playing it
(almost (c)): "It is so easy to stop playing DooM, I do it every day"!
Nah, it's playing map 31 without wanting to die.
@@n3onkn1ght Will your PC survive the rage-quit though?
I can't stop!
@@supra107 If my PC can survive the sheer number of Revenants in "The Killing Fields", it can survive anything.
ua-cam.com/video/SluPKcexroo/v-deo.html
Listen to that shrieking. _LISTEN TO IT._
Doom Challenges Deemed Impossible, getting people interested in playing the Master Levels.
Don't forget your own midipack. You both are creating this monster. lol
the solution: Told them there's an epic midi pack by Peter Lawrence that make Master Levels (somewhat) playable
There are some achievements in life to be proud of, and some achievements to be ashamed of. Alas, we don't always get to choose which ones are which.
I can't even find how to play it when I bought it with Doom 2 on GOG.
What about maximum doom?
That thumbnail of Doomguy juggling Invisibility Spheres on a unicycle reminds me of a friend of mine who solves Rubik's Cubes while both juggling them and using the clock change of daylight savings to finish in negative time.
you've got to be kidding
@@Arch-Tau Honestly it's just so preposterous that I wholeheartedly believe him.
Are you a friend with a God?
That’s really cool
Challenge accepted!
I’m a cuber, just need to learn to juggle now 😂
"The E4M3 impossible secret"
Yeah this is gonna be some bullshit.
Even the Doom Speedrunning community can't beat shoddy level design.
"Hey guys, DeSinc here. We're about to unlock impossible secrets."
"Just do a reverse accelerated bhop..."
uhhh...
It seems we've gone to fast and done a void glide
DeSinc and decino are suspiciously similar sounding names, after all..
@@liyifenn desinco
"i would have done it sooner if i had known just how easy it would have been" man, zero master just crushing you, decino
i saw this comment a second before he said it
Decino: "These challenges are deemed impossible"
Doom Speedrunners: "...And I took that personally"
Most of these start with "THIS was deemed impossible" then several days later _"Zero Master"_ has completed this previously thought impossible challenge" lol
*Zero Master is literally THEE MASTER of all things Doom;* all versions of Doom from the first in '93 to Doom Eternal. He is a Doom God.
decino: "No one wants to play Master levels....."
Doom Community: "Challenge Accepted!"
15 minutes later:
Doom Community: How could you do this to us?!?
@@Keldor314 lol yep
I guess that's how reverse psychology works. XD
@@Keldor314 my sentiments exactly lol
coincidentally, I beat the cultist base, arc complex, and super gore nest master levels yesterday
I would also find it almost impossible to juggle on a unicycle while being chased by a Cyberdemon
Not with that attitude.
The new impossible challenge in the Doom community now is to come up with something Zero Master can't do.
Easy.
"Stop playing Doom".
Easy.
"Enjoy playing Master Levels for Doom II"
Easy
Do a non-tas run of doom 2 map 30
Easy
Play doom 3, find it the best game ever and make sure that your opinion is genuine and you actually find it the best game no questions
Pacifist run of Hell Revealed 2!
"Right off the bat we start with a stinker, Mephisto's Masoleum."
"Stinker" is putting it lightly. That level blows.
Strangely its my favorite level in Master Levels. its also the only one i remember out of all those maps though so maybe thats why. I dont know how much im in the minority here for actually sort of liking that map.
@@wariofan-wq6fr Definitely probably in the minority here, but hey, I don't consider it that bad myself. Heck, I don't really have a problem with the Master Levels at all.
@@wariofan-wq6fr it's definitely not the worst in the pack imo. It's lame and unfairly difficult, but it's original at the very least.
“doom challengesm dened impsoble”
Haha, “impsoble” sounds like it could be the name of the leader of the imps or something.
_impsoble.wad_
To win the game, you must kill me, impsoble
First Coincident borrows the "Doom sprites over a CMYK matte", now speedrunners like A1s are copying decino's playthru thumbnails. Like hell in a techbase, decino's aesthetics are spreading to every corner of our reality. The longer he's on Earth, the more powerful he becomes.
Also, I see that "119K subscribers". I am eagerly awaiting a certain livestream in my feed any day now...
Don't forget about that thumbnail of that Midnight's video :D
Gotta admit, that yellow background that pops up in my feed once in a while gives me so much joy.
Speedrun of what may I ask?
@@livingcorpse5664 If you mean the livestream, it's not a speedrun. It's the 120K Sunder, pt. 2 video.
Maybe next weekend but who knows.
If you’re ever stuck in life, build up enough momentum and YEET yourself out of whatever is stopping you.
Thanks for another great video DuCinooOOOoo!
I still can't believe those 2 secrets behind the torches are impossible to reach without clipping because some guy at iD software decided to give them collision detection. Half the challenges for DOOM are impossible due to simple coding oversights.
Collision is determined by the map object in Doom. There's no per-instance flag that allows you to turn it off.
The real reason it's jank is because they're not supposed to be secrets. No mapper in their right mind would flag two empty corners of a room as secrets. It's most likely a sloppy sector cut-and-paste by the mapper, Shawn Green. The same Shawn Green who did quality assurance for the Master Levels, which _really_ says a lot.
@@n3onkn1ght I have a theory that maybe some other parts of that area were meant to be flagged as secret instead. I'd need to replay the map again to really think about my theory, but stranger things have been flagged as secret, so I wonder how plausible my hypothesis is.
Before I watch this video, I'm just gonna say this: ZERO MASTER STRIKES AGAIN!
Yes he did. And he left his calling card.
My thoughts exactly...
"No one in their right mind would voluntarily play this map." Having just done it for the first time two days ago, I can confirm this statement.
decino :*"Go watch it now, I'll wait"
Also decino : *"Alright"* **Starts the video anyway*
Guess decino waits for no one xD
That's because he knows we already watched it
Speedrunner wait time xD
N
In Doom, nothing is impossible
Not if your name starts with Z and ends with eromaster
Can you run doom in 3000 bc Greek computer?
What about thinking The Chasm is the best level in Doom II?
@@firepowerg Dean of Doom gave it number one I think? I'd have to rewatch the video.
Watch his video on doom eternal when he plays the slayer gate on the holt on nightmare shit was crazy
5:06
JonaG
Apparently got banned for cheating in other demos lmao
Q:Why you do this doom challenge?
A: Because decino said it is impossible.
Me not able to speed run Icon of sin on I’m too young to die: [Visible confusion]
Maybe 8 cans of Boomer Juice will give us enough gamer skill to beat map 09 without tool assisted
If you can handle the heart palpitations, jitters, constant need to piss, you can handle anything
Or doomer juice
Ba-dum-tiss
@@normaltophat4588 not not funny didn't didn't laugh
(double negative makes it a positive)
The fact people have been able to do map 9 challenges is insane. Doing it without taking damage by manipulating the RNG of dooms engine by preforming simple actions such as moving in a direction, swinging a fist etc is next level. (I remember that decino video)
This video even has a comment BY THE ZEROMASTER. THE GUY HIMSELF IN THIS VIDEO OF CHAMPIONS.
Amazing things happened here between the first video and this one in such a short time.
Oh nice! I knew about some of these runs, but not all of them. It's great to see them all compiled and explained here. Awesome video as always decino! :)
coin
Coin.
Coin
'the luck required is too insane'
boy do I have a player for you...
[Insert Chuggaaconoroy]
I appreciate the extra work put into finding good camera angles to show off the players' movement - it would be easier to just stick with the players' POV in these demos, but that extra bit of polish makes understanding these stunts easier and makes the video more entertaining.
At 12:02 when it panned to the pinkies in doombuilder I collapsed laughing
commercial doom level *by the way*
Cant wait for ZeroMaster to obsolete tjis video in two days...
You can do a pacifist run of map 30, doomguy doesn’t kill Romero, the bullets do.
Actually it’s rocket-
@@cherrystone oh yeah, dammit.
You'd make a great NRA spokesperson.
@@underthepale No, they say the exact opposite.
Really appreciate having the words of the Doom Gods being part of the video, helps make them feel more human and gives a better sense of the doom community as a whole.
Honestly, these challenges and the madlads that complete them (be it through legit runs or as proof-of-concept tool-assisted runs) make the Doom community one of the best video game communities that exists ever.
Now we have an official port of Doom 64, we could go after that.
Speaking of Impossible challenges that were deemed impossible but then were beated:
When i watched your video about impossible challenges - i was playing Doom that period of time. When i came to TNT Evilution and map 15 - i've managed to try to get 100% kills here. However instead of trying to use Cacodemon/lostsoul and rocket launcher's splash damage - i've decided to use only rocket launcher and try to shot out of the building near their spawn place. Know what? it actually worked! Seems that they somehow heard me and their hit-box turned to be extremely tall and i was able to hit it with rocket launcher. I've even recorded a video, but its quality is very bad because of very old port which was on Steam
Yes i was playing Steam release of Final Doom. However when Ultimate Doom & Doom II were updated to use better sourceport - Final Doom and Master Lvls of Doom weren't changed. So i BELIEVE that one day i'll manage to both record it and make a demo. On words... it's not going to be very believeable, i know.
P.S. it's "MAP15 100% kills", not "MAP15 100% secrets", my friend))
Congratulations to the people who finished the challenges! Kudos to them for having the patience and determination for completing it. Amazing.
I'd actually love to see No Rest for the Living added to the next update. The maps are pretty good, and there's only nine of them, so it's not a taxing addition.
Great video as always(!), and thanks for the shout-out in the description.
Learned about the save-load exploit thanks to you after all.
i would love a video on """technically commercial""" doom wads like master levels and explaining the stories behind them
Grinding Teeth in outro? Amazing.
I like how this game is over 25 years old and players are still playing it.
Great games never die, there's always speedrunners (and challenge-runners) and eSports people to carry the burden... as long as the game works in one of those contexts.
Doom is 25 years old. Doom is eternal
Well, it's a genre-defining game. It has enough historical significance to still attract players. Plus it aged quite well, all things considered.
Also, people still play arcade games from the 80s - Pac-Man, Donkey Kong etc.
Football is over 150 years old and players are still playing it... so what's your point?
Doom is like a football/soccer, a simple idea you can turn into anything fun.
Even after more than 20 years from the original release of Doom, the Doom community is still very active. Great video as always.
Almost 1000 likes and no dislikes. Decino knows what he's doing.
1.1k and no dislikes. Yep, he definitely knows what he's doing!
And now there are 5 dislikes, for... some reason.
@@rareroe305 I cannot wait to the day when you can see who liked and disliked on youtube. Stupid trollers.
decino motivating the DooM community to accomplish the seemingly impossible. A big ❤ for you decino, for inspiring us all :)
I like how in the thumbnail the Cyberdemon forces Doomguy to juggle Invis spheres
Master Levels MAP15 100% Kills was beaten 5 days ago by youtuber DCG Retrowave! One more off the list :)
I wanna do it again with fast monsters soon :D
David Asaad's Doom skills are godly.... especially in extreme pwads levels at extreme difficulties. Maybe he is the best doom player out there. No doubt he successfully pulled out the Nightmare! stunt. Congrats to him.
The best? Maybe a stretch :D but glad you enjoy the content!
@@a1s972 Woah a reply from A1S, firey good🔥🔥 Man your skills are really freakin good. Your Sunder Map6 Grinder play-through is awesome, it impresses me the most.
2:46 this is one of my fav. scenes from decino
It's honestly incredible how strong and passionate the Doom community is. These challenges are insanity and the fact people are tackling them just shows how far players are willing to go.
I'm a simple man. I see a thumbnail with yellow background and doom sprites, I click, like and comment before even watching said video.
2:35 Dream should try it because he is very lucky apparently
More 4000 attempts on MAP09 of TNT in Nightmare...
A1s is a man of focus, commitment, and sheer frickin' will.
Hats off to him.
I like how you motivated people to do better decino. That's freaking awesome. I never was a Doom player myself, but I grew up watching my dad enjoy the game on the Sega. And even to this day i enjoy watching others play the game. Love what you do.
Well now i know that i can finally half clear doom 1 considering that as soon as i play a game that i like i will 100% complete so now i know how to get most of the completion.
8:32 sounds like Dani. "Thank you Zero Master, Very Cool 👍!"
Thumbnails of your Doom knowledge bomb videos are always great, but this here has to be one of the best thus far.
Whoa, those mad men tried and actually succeed. I'm impressed
Did the impossible challenge but got banned because of cheating.
That's just the silliest thing I've ever saw xD
No, didn't really do it, it was tool-assisted, which also explains how masterful he is at cheating.
A lot of high profile cheaters that got caught turned out to be very good players. Even those with impressive skills can be tempted to cheat, especially if some record alludes them for a long time because of luck and other factors unrelated to skill. They justify cheating to themselves by thinking that they could've gotten the achievement legitimately if RNG didn't screw them over or something like that.
@@Sheevlord
"Tool-assisted speedruns are a pathway to many abilities some consider to be... _unnatural_ ."
"Is it possible to learn this power?"
"......not from _Zeromaster_ ."
Him getting banned has nothing to do with the fact that he did TNT map 09 pacifist in segments. He cheated in speedruns repeatedly claiming that they were single-segment runs, even after being caught and warned about it.
Most notable cheaters are people who are incredible at the game because knowing how to fake it convincingly often requires about as much skill and knowledge as just doing the run itself.
Love your content decino, I'll be waiting for the next part of this challenges series!
Thanks decino for making these video's. Even after 25 years we can still enjoy Doom and Doom II the way you describe all of this. It's amazing what a legacy this game had and still has. Keep up the good work!
Dream could do Icon of Sin pacifist, he's so damn lucky! 🥴
Dream is a Minecraft speedrunner, but I think he can do that.
I think riding a unicycle whilst juggling and battling a Cyberdemon is an impossible Doom challenge.
Yes definitely
Clearly you are not a Doom god.
@@karlk5801 But Doom doesn't have a unicycle or juggling mechanic.
Can YOU do these things in Doom?
I can't believe it's been a year since that video. I remember watching that one specifically while I was binging so much of your content after I found your channel, and so much more of it once I got some free time during the beginning of quarantine. I saw this notification pop up and all of it came rushing back to me. Great video as always, decino!
7:09 that's like if a bumblebee caught in a rain storm, manage to dodge every single raindrop.
Touhou crap right at thr face
The lengths that the Doom community goes to defy the impossible warms my heart.
Nothing like starting the morning with some slayer cereal with a side of Decino
Excellent choice of music from Halls of the Damned, makes for a spooky and intense atmosphere while discussing impossible challenges
Great video as always Decino, keep up the great work!
NightTerror is a chad
Defeat the Icon of Sin with a chainsaw...
Another great video. It makes me happy there are still challenges left out there. Gives you guys something to strive for.
They say when all challenges are met, Doom Guy can be reunited with Daisy.
Great video! I encourage you to keep telling people they can’t do it because it’s great to see these get accomplished!
Huh, there are more impossible secrets in DOOM than I thought
After watching this video, if Decino doesnt nickname his next pet "Impsoble" I will be disappointed
All this time I thougt this was something from the past, watching old speedruns breakdowns and facts about an old game. But knowing that this just happened recently, makes me feel somehow alive, that the world keeps going further. It's a weird feeling, but a good one. Thanks to all speedruners and you Decino, for making this game, and gaming world in general, more rich and alive than ever
Decino's technical Doom breakdowns are my favorite videos on UA-cam by far!!!
The biggest Doom challenge is trying to get an uber purist to play NuDoom
"Doom challenges that remain impossible"
Doom community: Finally a worthy opponent!
Our battle will be legendary!
Nice was in need of something good to watch. Cheers for the upload decino
Holy shit Decino, you're still hearting comments after all this time, what a legend
Greetings Decino, Are their any challenges in Sigil that are impossible?(technically it is commercially released by Romero...) Also can you do series on Scythe, and maybe Scythe 2. Personally I think Scythe has some of the best maps ever made. And lastly will you ever cover Weapon/Monster/etc mechanics for doom 64
I asked for Scythe maybe a year back and I think he said the .wad as a whole wasn't considered challenging enough or something like that. I'd definitely like to see something though, the last ten or so maps get pretty crazy.
I did Scythe MAP30 as an April Fools' video last year. The only challenging map in the entire WAD pretty much.
@@decino Scythe 2 was definitely harder than Scythe for me. The overall design of the majority of the maps is what made them both outstanding. Finishing up Hell Revealed right now, which except a few of the last levels isnt too hard.
@@decino Sigil was somewhat challenging on UV because you are starved for ammo
I'm doom god
A new informative and interesting video about Doom. Keep it up! :)
Minutes after making my way through this video (love your work - class A entertainment, very inspiring, even if I won’t be able to master such patience😅) I stumbled upon Kotaku article with a shoutout to your efforts! I guess tonight I’ll be replaying DOOM on my Switch (the only gaming system I have😁)
Just use cheats lol
It's so nice to see the community still putting so much effort in a game that will soon be 30 years old :D
Also, great video.
Can we all agree decino's analysis videos are the best? Always extremely exhaustive and extremely well done.
I was never able to play DOOM in my life but this is very entertaining to watch, keep going decino!
Thank you for creating such amazing videos!
I know it will likely never happen, but I really really hope one day zeromaster or someone actually somehow manages to get a non-TAS icon of sin pacifist. Everything about that tactic is so poetic.
The Doom God's take Decino's challenge videos personally, and more often than not come out on top. Great video, and great work to the community as well!!
Thank you for these videos! They explain so much about a game franchise I thought I knew but had no idea. These impossible videos I especially like because it vindicates angry 13 year old me wondering why I couldn't get 100% in some levels.
Took me 3 years to realize the bit flip was possibly a joke regarding the SM64 upwarp where a *very* convenient bit flipped and warped Mario to the top of the clock tower.
Decino revisiting Impossible doom challenges video? Biggest pog
Wow. They are still pushing it forward. I admire their dedication.
This is the inspiration I need to get back to finishing the Super Gore Nest master level on Nightmare. Some of the fights in it are deliciously sadistic.
I love your uploads!
I have been waiting for more videos like this
In a context of this video, the list of patrons in the end (with their colors) looks like challenge completion :) good briefing, decino
there's something comical just seeing doomguy zoom through the corrdiors