10 Fallout New Vegas Perks That Seem Great But Are Actually Bad
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- Опубліковано 18 тра 2024
- Welcome back, Vault Dwellers! In today's video, we're diving deep into the world of Fallout New Vegas to uncover the most deceptive perks in the game. These 10 perks might look appealing at first glance, but they can actually hinder your gameplay and make your journey through the Mojave Wasteland much more challenging. Don't fall for these traps!
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#fallout #falloutnewvegas #top10
00:17 - #10 - Splash Damage
01:33 - #09 - Weapons Handling
03:58 - #08 - Unstoppable Force
05:52 - #07 - XP PERKS (Swift Learner, Here and Now, Lessons Learned, Tag!)
07:29 - #06 - Certified Tech
09:00 - #05 - Junk Rounds
11:34 - #04 - Long Haul
12:59 - #03 - Rad Absorption
15:00 - #02 - Computer Whiz
16:23 - #01 - Infiltrator - Ігри
The only perk that mislead me is in shining armor since I had power armor. Until someone told me its bugged perk thats useless.
So dumb they never fixed it
@@The_Punisher obsidian were off by one point for an aggregate score on new vegas so bethesda didn't pay out a bonus so they likely couldn't fund much stuff besides getting the dlc out asap.
@@BaeBunni But Obsidian was being paid by Bethesda, they didnt fund it themselfes. This bonus was also Bethesda idea, it wasn't obsidian workes bread money.
From what I've heard Obsidian was cool with that deal and have no ill will against Bethesda plus it would have been Bethesda that funded the game @@BaeBunni
Some mods (the major fixes mods) correct that, if I'm not mistaken.
The only downside to "Bloody Mess" is that you'll sometimes have to spend longer looking for a specific enemies body part to loot them than you did actually fighting them.
That's the main reason I never take it. When I see an enemy drop, I want to run straight to the body and loot it and move on, not look all over the map for an eyeball or shin bone.
I love the damage boost from bloody mess. Usually just nearly kill the enemy, and let ED-E end the bastard to avoid the search entirely.
Also the quest to bring back the raider leader heads can b affected by it.
I liked it well enough for one playthrough, but it also feels very unimmersive for me. The extra damage is not THAT much of a bonus for me to be staring at exploded carcasses the whole game through. And you might as well pick a better perk that's also damage based.
@@RedFloyd469 Indeed. There are many perks that add +10% +15% +25% damage for certain weapons. Sure, Bloody Mess adds +5% to every attack, but most players specialize in one or two weapons anyway, so it is better to get Grunt, or Ninja, or Laser Commander for the damage boost - especially those that increase critical hit chance.
Long Haul walked so Strong Back 4 can run
Yeah, Weapons Handling is my hill to die on.
As an example; with Weapons Handling combined with Reinforced Spine from Old World Blues and the Strength Implant, you only need to stick three points in strength and you'll still be wielding the Anti-materiel Riffle at the end of the game.
You're gonna need Pack Rat, though 😅
or, you could start with 1 strength and just stock up on steady so all your shots are 100% accurate no matter the weapon requirements.
@@Zeon081 or just ignore weapon spread and go with 1 strength.
I mean sure but then your carry weight will suck. Unless I'm going melee I always go 5 strength.
@@Costenyo the best method
@@Rj-pw7zs you get like 200 carry weight on base or something like that, and that’s genuinely plenty. unless you want power armor and haul every gun on your back.
LONG HAUL is essential for farming Legion Assassination Squads; with a high enough BARTER, you can take all their weapons, armor, ammo and $$; sell them; soon you won’t need that pile of chump change in the Sierra Nevada Vault; I finished one playthrough with nearly 1/2 Million caps, mostly earned from killing Legionnaires; it also helped that I used the Right Now perk, to get extra perk points early, to dump into Barter; with enough caps, you can sneak into The Divide, early, and buy a set of Riot Armor, by lvl 10, and hunt even more Legionnaires…
That can be good for that.
Question though: if you finished the game with a half million caps in reserve, did you really need a perk that was only functionally helping you get more caps?
@@pagingdoctorsideburns Especially since Caravan exists in the game if you want massive cash
@@pagingdoctorsideburns More is more. :v
Attempting to defend all or most of these perks, GO
10. Blast Radius: Well yeah, no kidding that blast radius can backfire, explosion radius in the game in general is huge, hit the deck is almost mandatory for explosive builds. Its a great supplementary perk.
9. Weapons Handling: Yeah as you said, its good but if you're not looking for the heavier weapons or have high strength its not necessary.
8. Unstoppable Force: Yeah its kinda mediocre unless you're fighting human enemies because lemme tell you, the white gloves LOVE blocking their nuts off
7. XP Perks, cant really defend most of them bc they're noob traps, except for lessons learned as its 1 slot for a far more effective boost to XP gain, and even then becomes a dead slot when you hit 50.
6. Certified Tech: Yeah the bug kind of makes the crit chance irrelevant but the scrap components are great, especially for science focused characters. Faked sierra madre slugs and energy cells, auto inject stims galore, scrap metal and electronics are invaluable for making things like weapon repair kits since sometimes you'll be plain short as fuck on scrap electronics, and scrap metal is used in several recipes.
5. Yeah nah Junk Rounds is worthless.
4. HOP OFF LONG HAUL YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THAT PERK SAVED MY SANITY WHEN I WAS OVERENCUMBERED WITH LOOT
3. Rad Absorption: Yeah nah this is also unnecessary
Computer Whiz and Infiltrator since they're basically the same thing: Yeah nah just hit a previous save lmao, these are worthless
Yeah, I take Long Haul because I loot everything I can.
Thanks for your takes!
The XP perks are actually great bc you can get to lvl 50 much quicker, then you reset your character using the sink autodoc. Tbf, I still never use them.
edit: im dumb
you agreed with him on more than half of these
Hard agree on Long Haul.
Blast radius might not be the best perk, but you just cannot deny it's a pretty fun perk to have, even more if you have a GRA Fat Man
Yeah it is awesome!
Blast Radius is my hill to die on, I might die but we all die together
With Junk Rounds, another HUGE problem with Junk Rounds, is that you can BUY ammo from the Sierra Madre vending machines. Why waste all that time and effort to make a piddly 54 rounds of ammo when you could instead just buy a bunch of ammo from the vending machines once you find the holotapes to unlock those? And yeah, chips are limited... until you get 75% of the way towards getting banned from the casino, then you get regular shipments of 1,000 chips to use in the vending machine in the BoS bunker after you're done in the Madre for the rest of the playthrough, where you can buy stimpaks, weapon repair kits, and yes, ammo. As much ammo as you could ever want.
Junk Rounds can make you ammo for 12 gauge and 20 gauge, which you can find weapons for but can't buy ammo for in DM (ammo is only in random stashes). Still utterly useless.
(I wonder if there's a clean mod that adds 12 gauge and 20 gauge to the vending machines without adding every ammo type in the game etc.)
@@kanrakucheese I would imagine such a mod should not be hard to make, or get a mod that adds all the ammo, open the mod, and mod the mod to only add the ammo you want it to add. Or simply don't buy the ammo you think shouldn't be there.
i always spend my chips on stims
@@AlqhemyA Not weapon repair kits? Honestly I hate how fast weapons degrade, seems like every other battle, the needle gets down to the DPS loss point and I hate having a weapon barely doing damage (which snowballs the more the weapon degrades, do less damage, need more shots, weapon degrades even more with each battle).
Frankly, this is the #1 key thing that FO4 did that was so amazing, was getting rid of that stupid durability system.
@@Dhalin i usually just make weapon repair kits or get jury rigging since i use guns like All-American and Lucky that are easy to repair with jury rigging. also if youre doing dead money already why not just grab the gold bars and sell them so you can repair your shit at a vendor? personally id take 300 stimpaks over weapon repair kits any day
Long Haul does not belong on that list. Some players are hoarders.
Hoarding is a bad habit. Bad perk to offset a bad habit.
@@Chopstorm. Eat sh*t and do not presume to tell me how I should play.
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Step one: Start hoarding scrap metal, scrap electronics, wrenches, damaged books, clipboards, pencils, household appliances, plates, coffee mugs, and various unprocessed fruits and vegetables. Taking Long Haul helps with this.
Step two: Complete Old World Blues. Haul most of the junk back to the Sink and feed them to the various deranged appliances for crafting materials and Salient Green. Sell the Salient Green for a ton of caps. Set aside one bottle of Wonderglue for every two damaged books, then use the remaining glue and the duct tape to turn the scrap metal, scrap electronics, and wrenches into weapon repair kits.
Step three: Take the Voracious Reader perk. Get Veronica and have her follow you to your home. Pick up the half-ton of books and Wonderglue you have laying around and use her as a workbench to craft 400+ crit chance magazines.
Step four: Travel back to the Sink and rebuild your character at the Auto-Doc since you won't be needing Long Haul or Voracious Reader any more.
@@desertdude540 Step #1 Play as I want without being influence by the younger generation who thinks everyone should play as they do. Step #2 Repeat Step #1
Here’s another great thing you can do to get around Rad Absorption’s slow rad reduction: Press the wait button. Literally that simple. As long as you’re not standing in an irradiated zone, press the wait button, wait a few in game hours which takes very few real life seconds, boom! You’ve decreased a bunch of radiation!
If you don’t care about the time of day in New Vegas, if you’re not in combat, & don’t have any night time perks, Rad Absorption’s not as bad as you think it is. Going to a doctor is nice, & you’ll probably have a bunch of chems to get your rads down by the end game, but you can bypass the slow rate of the perk by using and abusing the wait button. If you’re willing to invest in the perk because you’re so paranoid about radiation. Which admittedly some players are.
I’m happy you said this because I was about to
I really don’t understand what’s wrong with using the wait button. Players use and abuse it all the time in the older Fallouts to get vendors to respawn their inventories. Rad Absorption would go hand in hand with the wait button. 👍🤔
In hardcore mode, Rad Absorption > Radiant Beauty. Radiant Beauty can subtract 100 rads for 1 hour of sleep, but that's the only time it works. Rad Adsorption works continuously.
I don’t understand the arguments against Rad Absorption. I think it’s a GOATed perk because it actively helps you with radiation on the go. Saves you chems, saves you a trip to a doctor. It’s great.
i also thought about sleeping time
The problem with waiting is that if you play with hunger and thirst they will increase.
If you have pleanty of food and drinks then it will not be a problem. Although then you probably have a bunch of rad meds too, so don't be cheap :)
I can't stand meltdown because it makes energy infuriating in close range, like in offices, especially if you're running high-crit builds. It'd be fine if hit the deck worked for explosive energy weapons, or if if meltdown only applied to plasma weapons so you can use laser weapons in tight situations instead. I don't even hate the perk, I just want a way to keep it from killing me
I’d reverse that. I use laser for sniping and plasma for close quarters, so for the sake of my legs I’d like meltdown only on lasers
I just got this perk in my first play through because I was doing an energy weapon build, didn’t realize it also damaged you but it’s still good when not right next to someone
@@JokerDoom lasers already have laser commander so they have better crits, meltdown on plasma weapons would be a good perk to balance them out by giving plasma some kind of utility. Plasma's perks are weak anyway so imo there's never much of a reason to use it over lasers, long or close range
@@trustycrusty1773 The reason to use plasma over lasers is because plasma looks really cool. (I wish that travel time didn’t throw me off so badly)
Whenever I do an energy weapons build, I just end up making it a hybrid build where I carry a riot shotgun for close quarters and use the laser rifle and Gatling laser for medium- to long-range enemies. Even if your Guns skill is pretty low, at close range it doesn't really matter. If you like melee better, something like a super sledge, thermic lance, chainsaw, or ballistic fist would also work.
Jeez, is that a mod that spawns that many enemies at once? I'd be freaking out if I saw that many death claws running at me, haha
He did a 10x enemy spawns run sometime back. Honestly I'm more impressed it doesn't just completely crash his game.
Infiltrator's only real use is for when you're a bit to fast to try to open a container and take everything.
That is true.
To give some context to the XP perks, doing around 80% of the Mojave and 1 DLC gave me enough XP to hit the level cap halfway trough a second DLC despite getting -10% overall xp gain from the Skilled trait
Exactly. I had to install the JSawyer mod to reduce XP gain, because I would hit level 50 long before I did even half of the quests I wanted to do.
Counter argument, unless you are doing all the shit on the dlcs every run, just get a damn extra 25% exp to hit the level cap for whatever you want to do, 100% I guarantee people here don't do all the dlcs every playthough so that argument goes out the window, just get the bonus exp so you get your build faster, what are you gonna use one usleess point, intense training which is mad overrated?
@superbeta1716 If you're not playing through more content, then why would you even care about levels in the first place? This is a dog shit argument.
I'm doing my first playthrough of New Vegas and the DLCs, and just wanted to let you know that these videos are a huge help, thank you for still doing these.
What kind of build are you doing?
i enjoy using BOTH Strong Back & Burden to Bear cuz i like carrying A LOT of stuff to sell to vendors and literally gain items without spending a single cap on anyone, plus more ammo to hold along side Pack Rat
I usually go with that too, for that same reason!
I took Long Haul recently and frankly, it's a huge upgrade. Especially in Lonesome Road when you have a bunch of valuable weapons/armor/etc to collect from the Marked Men.
Junk Rounds is also kinda fun and a way to get some use out of otherwise useless items.
Splash Damage is a perk I recommend waiting on until you can get the Hit the Deck! perk. That perk greatly reduces the damage you receive from all explosive weapons, including your own! If you're worried about companions, Spray n Pray can help them a lot, but you need 4 Charisma for it! Otherwise, I would say traveling with companions on an explosive build is probably not a good idea! Especially if you're playing on Hardcore mode!
I always grab Explorer just because its faster then grabbing my phone and looking up a map
That's fair.
It also unlocks unique dialogue in Lonesome road
And once you've visited all the locations to mark them permanently on the Pip-Boy, you can rebuild your character at the Sink to take a different perk.
I like it for the DLCs to make sure I can find everything before I go back to the Mojave.
@@desertdude540That only works for traits, not regular perks.
Honestly I really like Rad Absorption, along with the rad resistance you really never have to worry about rads anymore. Its really nice in hardcore because you can eat your food and not have to take a rad away right after
You can absolutely use the GRA Fat Man indoors, just use timed mini nukes, fire into a room, and shut the door before it goes off!
That is true, and funny enough that makes it s surprisingly decent 1 shot sniper.
It's funny when the dilapidated structure doesn't get blown to smithereens from that.
12:58, nah I disagree. once you've got the sink as a home, anytime you are getting close to carry weight capacity, you can just go there and dump everything off. And the sink doesn't have THAT much money available.
I just used a mailbox at the entrance of Nipton to dump everything I couldn't carry.
Also: For Rad Absorption, perks and armor effects and whatnot, that do a thing over time, generally tend to keep doing the thing while you're quick traveling. So, if a journey would've taken you five minutes to undergo the hard way, traveling the fastest route possible, then you'll arrive to find five minutes' worth of Rad Absorption have taken place. At five ticks per minute times five minutes, that means you lose 25 rads just for doing some fast traveling you were gonna' do anyway.
Additionally, Long Haul isn't *just* for grabbing all of Dead Money's gold bars. If your play style has you grabbing enough loot from every enemy you kill, that you're getting over encumbered frequently, then Long Haul will let you quick travel to a vendor every time you get the "over encumbered" message. ...or stash all the excess loot you're getting in a container near the start of the dungeon, then once the dungeon's cleared, hit "take all" on that container, and fast travel despite being MASSIVELY over encumbered.
Long Haul is a great perk. I’m always ending up over encumbered and I’m not just speedrunning the teleporter in every run.
Weapons handling is a good perk in Fallout Tactics. You can recruit people with specific character settings so you can only adjust them to some extent. If you take them early on, you can change the characters more. Some of the later recruits have good Big Guns skills but can't carry for example M2 Browning. With weapon handling you can carry big guns without having the strength requirements which is a big help when you are already around level 20 so you can't customize them so much.
The best perk, on the other hand, is Jury Rigging :)
I've gotten a decent amount of mileage out of Splash Damage, but that's very much because I've paired it with Travel Light. Juking into fling an MFC or Tin Can Grenade and rapidly pulling back at nearly max Movement Speed makes it much less likely for me to get caught in my own blast and makes scoring hits with the rather fiddly, bouncy grenades much more consistent.
That rad perk is useful on some builds. Like Energy with that doesn't use Light Armor, you just have too many perks with nowhere to spend them and you are slower so you get more rads. That and if you play Tale of Two Wastelands then you gotta deal with all the rads in Fallout 3.
But in most cases, yeah the perk is useless.
TTW has a perk "overhaul" included which makes nearly all perks utter dogshit compared to their vanilla equivalents so you might end up picking more perks, especially when you have "level every perk" disabled.
Hey I just found your channel like a couple days ago after returning to New Vegas. Love your FNV content. Thanks for the entertainment.
Awesome! Thank you!
I love this channel for the fact that it makes me question choices I made years ago playing this game like me picking Unstoppable Force just because of the 4x damage but not realizing very little enemies in the game actually block 😂
Wow. On my first playthrough and searching for FNV videos assuming all the results will be 10+ years old and BAM! 7 days ago. You are a legend. Thansk for the info!
Awesome, hope that you have fun on your New Vegas run!
I thought this video came out a long time ago, not 10 hours ago. Lol.
Keep up the good work! With loads of people coming back to the game after the show, I'm sure a ton of people will find this helpful. 💪🏽😎👍🏽
Thanks! Will do!
i like long haul. i horde gear from lonesome road with max barter and like to maximize my money by teleporting while encumbered
It can be nice.
Hey love the vids, wasn’t sure if you have done it or not but a fallout 4 companion perks tier list would be good! That way I know which ones to go for first
depends on a build. Preston and Deacon are generally the best perks. Strong if you are melee build, Hanckock for vats crit build. The rest are trash. Just use lone wanderer perk, it's better than anything companions can give you.
@@Zeon081 Once you have the perk it's permanent. You don't need to keep the companion around. You gain companion affinity as long as they're in your party. You can just stand in a corner and leave the game running and then come back and then talk to them to begin the next stage.
@Zeon081
Piper's is a lot of free exp if you get her's early.
Deacon's is really strong because the sneak attack bonus from cloak and dagger is multiplied by Ninja and Mr Sandman. Just get Cloak first because for some reason cloak doesn't affect ninja and sandman if you get cloak afterwards. The railroad also has a lot of really powerful early game items.
Preston's is really good and will be active pretty much all the time.
Danse's is just a nice 20% bonus damage to a couple of common enemy types.
Cait's is completely wrong. What it actually does is if your AP is below 25 it regenerates 50% faster. It's an okay bonus but if it worked like it says it's supposed to it would be really strong.
Codsworth's is a very small bonus but if you have Automatron installed then even a tiny bonus is appreciated against robot death squads.
X6-88 +20 energy resistance is +20 energy resistance. For lols you can get this perk and then betray the institute and then laugh as they try to kill you with the energy weapons they just taught you to resist.
Hancock's is good for a vats crit build.
MacCready's is good for any ranged vats build. It originally was bugged to give +2000% chance to hit the head.
Strong's works well with melee but specifically the low health melee build.
Curie's is not very useful but she's one of the more interesting companions to have following you around.
Nick's is useless. Hacking is already easy enough or you can just have Nick hack the terminal if you don't want to invest perk points into hacking. Also his quest is boring and requires you to travel to every police station on the map. That said, old Belethor is a great traveling companion.
Longfellow's is pretty good considering how tanky fog crawlers and mirelurks are.
Gage's perk is a very small bonus to xp from kills and damage resistance. It's still a bonus but it's not really noticeable because most players are already high level and good armor when they start nuka world.
@@Zeon081 going for maccready at the moment for the headshot accuracy in VATS also. End game I definitely do go lone wanderer, the perks do stay if I’m not travelling with a companion if I recall?
TAG is an alright perk, it lets you fill out a skill way faster so you have points to put into other skills. As a horrid pack rat who takes everything in an area, the long haul perk is a must have.
I played an Unarmed/Explosives build once. I got Splash Damage. I also got perks to reduce explosion and limb damage.
Worth it
Unarmed + Explosives is surprisingly good. It's what I'm doing now to test some mods before I start over with my usual, boring stealth sniper build.
@@CliffSedge-nu5fv see I never play stealth sniper because I'm impatient and have terrible aim. Using that build means it takes me way too long to line up shots when I could just be charging in and ripping things apart
Unarmed is godtier, should have embraced limb damage by taking small frame and ultimately getting eye for eye which increases all damage for each body section crippled
@@imonke5303 instead of that I went with a build that let me shrug off my own explosions which had enhanced damage and radius. I would frequently blow up the area I was in and then look for bodies to loot
That music (in the first few minutes) almost sounds like the stage music from stage one in Holocure.
16:41 damn.... That gecko just went to space lmao
Yeah Meltdown is such a fun perk!
@@ReapeeRon probably the main reason I choose Energy Weapons as primary or secondary weapons on almost every FNV run. Your ranked videos are the best!
Big ol throbbin hard disagree on long haul, long haul saves us tons of that one precious resource we can never get back, time. Also, not just good for the gold bars, the commissary things in the divide are bugged, if you clean them out of all 6k caps, leave, then open it again, it will restock the caps, they are where I got to sell everything in bulk. Just fast travel to the dlc entrance, then to nearest commissary location, then do the deed. I picked it up and was super happy with it my first time going through the divide from all the marked men armor and weapons you get, you just get so much and it's all worth a lot too so it's nice to be able to zip to the nearest commissary after grabbing every single non fixed object within your latest marked men skirmish. Also didnt know the keeping perks after bullying Chet for 37 hours trick was exclusive to dead money perks, when I did it years ago I always thought that it was only perks that have no stat or special reqs, because in my mind that made the most sense, stats and special change when you do the reset, level doesn't I don't think. Maybe both? Is explorer a DM perk? Because what I used to do was bully Chet to 20, make a save, then when I wanted to play with a new build I'd just start from there and reset and explorer was a perk i had in the keep roster just because it's still useful even if you know the game map very well (mainly for finding the fuckin armor in HH cause i always forget where that particular cave is)
I love the long haul perk. I think its worth it, I like it a quite a bit.
I think long haul helps when you have a lot of loot to sell especially from the divide
I’m the type of Fallout player, who loots everything I can, so I’m able to keep what I want, then sell what I don’t need. A nice way to build your resources, and to become rich. It also allows you to buy anything, that you need or want. So Long Haul for me is a must on New Vegas. Along with the last Strong Back point in Fallout 4.
Long haul was a surprise because on non hard-core runs I love to collect and 100% everything and for the hard-core runs its all about "letting go"
I will die on the long haul perk and the teleporter can't change my mind.
TIME STAMPS:
00:17 - #10 - Splash Damage
01:33 - #09 - Weapons Handling
03:58 - #08 - Unstoppable Force
05:52 - #07 - XP PERKS (Swift Learner, Here and Now, Lessons Learned, Tag!)
07:29 - #06 - Certified Tech
09:00 - #05 - Junk Rounds
11:34 - #04 - Long Haul
12:59 - #03 - Rad Absorption
15:00 - #02 - Computer Whiz
16:23 - #01 - Infiltrator
Usually the last perk I get is the cannibal perk. All those fallen enemies can't let that meat go to waste 🤭🤣
Good point.
So the only time one would even force a lock is if they don't have a bobby pin, in which case Infiltrator is useless because you can't pick the lock anyway. You'd only get infiltrator if you're really impatient because (as you said) with it you can immediately force every lock you encounter and sometimes you'll get lucky and skip the mini-game.
Skipping a tedious minigame is a hell of a perk though.
Hey, I like long haul I mean if you find a bunch of stuff you don't need worth like 2000 +caps it's a good buddy
Does new vegas let ya choose a perk every level? Its been a while since i last played it so i cant remember.
It's every other level.
On force lock, you can literally quicksave before forcing, then quick loading if needed to negate the need for Infiltrator. Forcing a lock for me is to mostly save time on the very easy, easy, and normal locks. Otherwise, it shouldn't be used on hard/very hard locks
Someone also mentioned this but Blast Radius' negative effect gets greatly offset by Hit the Deck, wich if you're doing an explosives build you probably will also take.
That is also true.
I love Blast Radius, but it 100% feels more like a trait than a perk in that it’s more of a trade off than an upgrade. Crippled legs half the playthrough but dear god close range explosives builds are fun. My favorite playthrough ever was an explosives and unarmed playthrough. Character was named Easier Peter
Long Haul is great for Tale of Two Wastelands.
Probably is.
Another thing to note regarding Unstoppable Force is that VATS bypasses blocking. So if an enemy is spamming blocks, just VATS them.
I'm not sure what games you are playing but my most recent Melee run I swear almost every encounter that had a melee enemy I would be blocked to high hell.
I dunno, I don't remember that ever being a problem
Unstoppable force seems like it would be really useful in fallout 4. A lot of Melee creatures, robots or humans block
To quote a famous philosopher TORGUE GUNS ARE ALWAYS EXPLOSIVE! "What if I fire in close quarters, won't I get hurt too?" IN YOUR HEART OF HEARTS YOU KNOW THE ANSWER-THE QUESTION IS, DOES IT MATTER?!'
SPLASH DAMAGE ALL THE WAY!!?!
The thing is: Long Haul, is a base game perk. It existed way before any of the expansions.
And it is the most powerful Perk you can have in Hardcore mode.
Since you can still fast travel in Hardcore mode (Survival Mode basically), getting over encumbered was extremely easy, since Ammo weighs a lot, having too many weapons, food, healing powders, clean water. This perk became quite literally essential.
Also sure in a non Hardcore playthrough the perk that removes Rads, is kind of redundant, because you can scarf down Radaway like no tomorrow.
But in Hardcore, how much food and water do you have on you? Actually many times, you will gain *MORE* Rads from the amount of food you need to balance out the Radaway. Since it will require you to eat and drink more.
And Cannibalism in Hardcore can be very useful since it is free food on the road.
Sometimes you have to put in the weight of the perks on all difficulties. Since a perk that is useless in a non hardcore or survival mode may be essential in the hardcore or survival.
It goes with the same as the old argument of "Damage Reduction is bad, because I can just use TGM".
Same with the Hacking wiz, some don't want to use the exploit of going out, and then back in, to reset the hack attempts. So it still serves a purpose for those people.
And yes the go out and in to reset hacks, is an Exploit, it is not intended to do so.
I disagree, I only play on the very hard hardcore mode Long Haul is nice to have but I have never seen a need in it. If with mods that limit your carry weight to 100 you still don't need it. Only take what you need, you also don't have to get a ton of rads from food and water to get to high hp in hardcore, Sunsets are the best early game healing and once you hit level 20 you can Them's Good Eattin, or at level 4 you can get Rad Child and waste no healing for 90% of the game. I also disagree with the computer resets, this is in 3,NV, and 4 at this point it is a feature.
Weapon Handling does not give you strenght for this specific purpose, instead it decreases strenght req on every weapon. Basically the same thing, but still
This was a great breakdown of why or why not you would take or be interested in these perks.
Thank you very much Michael!
Not saying Cannibal is a good perk in 76 but Cannibal in junction with Rejuvenated gives immediate access to a 45% HP bonus when surrounded by edible corpses.
I strongly agree with Swift Learner there are WAY better perks you can get with 6 levels in FNV
Rad Absorption, on maybe Hardcore mode where you need to eat and drink on a regular basis you will get some extra rads. While you're not going get THAT much radiation in the first place, the perk can effectively entirely remove that rad gain.
Blast Radius would however make Hit The Deck a very good option to take for mitigation; and if you're going explosive weapons anyway to benefit from Blast Radius, you're probably also going to want Hit The Deck.
* For the impatient; I would argue Swift Learner at least for one rank - Yes it's 10% exp when the majority of exp rewarded is bupkiss, but it's also a flat gain. For one perk point. You get 25 of them in game if you go up to Level 50 (In theory anyway, I haven't played in a LONG while) so 1 perk point to max your power faster can be a decent trade off. Especially if there's nothing else you really want at whatever level you choose to take it.
Rad absoption I'd say is more not great as it may conflict with rad child... BUT it can also mitigate the negatives from Rad Child by keeping you at a lower bar over time. So depending on how much HP regen you want they CAN work together. I think this one is more for the stubborn pack rats, and the very patient. Or who want a particular themed build.
I always feel like enemies are blocking, but then again I have only had one melee playthrough.
Tag is actually good if you’re not going for skill books, which many people find to be very tedious
That can be true, but at that point just take educated you will get more skill points.
I like having Rad Absorption along with the Monocyte Breeder so I can wait anywhere and have my character fully healed with zero rads. Mainly just a quality of life thing more than an actual necessity.
tbf, I agree with you on all of these although I do usually reluctantly take long haul.
With infiltrator, quicksave is a thing. Quicksave, force the lock, if it breaks, reload. It's as simple as that. Same with computer whiz. Fact is, with the security reset (that forces you to wait through the login stuff, they removed that in 4), it's just about as fast to guess all 4, get locked out, and then quickload and guess another 4 until you guess correctly.
It's faster on xbox and old computers to exit the terminal and rentrer.
Im using Weapon Handling in my current modded play through since with Just Assorted Mods sprint mechanic, you cant sprint with weapons that have to high of a strength requirement, which was pretty painful early on in my run through. Now that Im almost done and have implants and the additional stats from OWB its not as useful.
There are too many perks to keep track of. It's also frustrating that certain gun parts aren't compatible or at least not made clear which guns they go to.
How dare you put Long Haul on this list? The Strong Back / Burden to Bear perks are for newbs who can't manage inventory properly.
Long Haul is essential after Dead Money. Even if you did OWB and have the Transportalponder, there are other important places to travel to.
Also, Rad Absorption is unnecessary with how easy it is to get rid of rads, but it works continuously in the background. Unless you are often in a high-rad zone, just sleeping, fast-traveling, walking around will eventually flush out all the rads making rad-away irrelevant unless you are in Vault 34 or Searchlight.
It pairs well with the Atomic! perk and hotkeyed coyote steaks: eat a coyote steak for a strength and speed boost from the radiation, and then Rad Absorption takes it right away.
Even if you have Rad Child, you will have ways to increase your rads faster than Rad Absorption can take it away.
Unstoppable force is actually really good because getting blocked by enemies is extremely annoying and if you run a crit build you can just outright kill most enemies through their block. Definitely not a perk you should rush for though.
It's be nice if Computer Whizz changed the hidden codes for removal of dud words and extra chances into literal translations of what they do. For example; instead of "" it would say "CHANCE" or "DUD". That way you can make the mini-game a little quicker and easier by accessing all of your extra chances and removing all the dud words before you start to guess.
Splash Damage can be really strong, but I think it's only worth taking if you ALSO take Hit the Deck
Another point against Splash Damage: If you're the sort who likes to bring friends (read: traveling companions) along for your journey, a larger splash radius means you're more likely to kill your friends.
unstoppable force would have been a cool perk in fo4. Since a raider with a butter knife can just block a super sledge power attack from a person in power armor and not take a single hit of damage
Skill and Experience Perks in my opinion fall under the similar blanket of "after a point, Perks aren't really necessary for a focused build". Lessons Learned is probably the only one I'd consider for anyone, as it scales and does give a huge chunk of EXP, helping you get to the highest levels (because why not become ungodly powerful). Here and Now is actually the most useless since you're better off just leveling 10% faster anyway. I only ever use it for finishing off any last bit of skill leveling post-30. Tag! is only useful if you're running with a low intelligence build, can't really go wrong with an extra +15 (even if Educated eventually gets you more than that in 8 levels), but then you could argue Comprehension has an extra +1 skill gained per book AND you can get double the skill boosts from a magazine, so if your character collects them, getting a +20 to skills is certainly nothing to sneeze at early on, or even in the midgame. But when you're in the 20+ range, you've usually taken the perks that define your build. By level 10, with a shotgun style in mind, you can take the 10% damage to opposite sex, Rapid Reload, Bloody Mess and/or Shotgun Surgeon, Commando or Quick Draw (Cowboy for the Lever Action Shotgun), and Finesse (or the aforementioned perks you didn't take). At 12, I take a quality of life perk. At 14. At 16, I should have high enough guns to take "And Stay Back'. But honestly, there's a stretch of taking perks for a shotgun build that can be a coin flip between extra XP generation or more AP.
Feel like Weapons Handling is a perk you take after 30 when your build is "complete" and you're picking some QoL perks to broaden your weapon options
Yeah that is a good time to take that perk.
With an incinerator run, splash damage is pretty helpful
That is true, that is pretty nice.
Yo, infiltrator is great for no risk force lock. As someone who hates the locking minigame, it's worth the perk slot.
Long haul? That perk isnt just a good perk, its a perk so good that you dont need any other perks in the WHOLE Game
You think i joke? That i jest? :) in my old save i have well 200 scrap and scrap eletronics in my little novac motel, 6 fatman, 15 suits of combat armor, some reinforced versions, a handful of missile launchers, over 20 sets of power armor from every single brotherhood member in the wastes (and the already dead ones) many power fists, lazer rifles and plasma, braham skulls, deathlclaw hands, i have all the sets of gear from legion ambushes, so over 50 sets from dozens of assassasations, i have guns, too many guns, probably 1 to 2 thousand weight in guns, i have every gun held by anyone hostile ive ever met, i have piled up magnums and 10mls in the corner by the bed, flamers and hunting rifles
And you want me to Transfer all of that to My other home in the Sink Without this perk? Never mind the serveral dozen hours it saved me getting all this loot here, getting all to the sink would take probaly a full 3 hours of teleporting back and forth with the loading screen. instead :) it took 10 minutes
No other perk in the game can come close to saving over 10 hours of time in loading screens throughout a playthrough
Long Haul + Jury Rigging = game breaking.
Meltdown is another perk that can be pretty bad as well. i made the mistake of getting it on a recent energy weapon build. it makes interiors almost impossible with plasma weapons.
About Long Haul and the Gold Bars.
Why are you doing all of that hassel? Just sell the Gold Bars to a hologram in Dead Money for a lot of Pre-War money? Pre-War money is still worth a lot of caps. Believe it is 7-14 caps each. So you can just trade in Pre-War money that have no weight and just buy things with that. No need to care about the carry weight.
still a net loss
@@Zeon081 You will be having around 70k-130k caps from that DLC if you also play the casino. Do you really need more money?
@@Cloud_Seeker Yes
I agree.
@@Cloud_Seeker You can also make money with jurry rigging by repairing broken expensive weapons with cheap weapons.
need timeframes
Computer whiz and infiltrator dont seem to me as "preemptive" perks. Seems obsidean pictured that one guy who broke a safe lock, was like "meh whatever", only to 20 hours later find out that it held Gobi Rifle
I'd also put Bloody Mess here
The perk is what it is, but it sometimes angers the UA-cam content filter
I think Atomic is pretty bad tbh. Sure, has AP refresh for Rad sickness, but that movement speed bonus is only applied with receiving Rads. Very situational. You could horde Coyete Meat to get some Rads over time for a short speed boost, but it's honestly not worth the hassle and reminds me of FO4 Ghoulish
Me and my gold bars have to disagree with long haul being bad. Fr though that's gotta be the only genuinely solid usage of that perk 😂
... how have i never used the transportalponder to store the gold bars before, you have removed my long haul perk and changed all my playthroughs slightly going forward
I always skip Splash Damage on explosives builds. If I need extra radius, I'll just go with the HE variant of whatever explosive round, which have a greater increase to radius than the perk does..
That is a fair thing to do.
Aren't the bugged perks fixed in unofficial patches?
Yes they are.
Long Haul is fantastic; you never have to leave any loot behind ever again.
Idk if I’m doing something weird but I did every single mission in the game as a non-stealth build excluding mutually exclusive ones and never reached level 50. I tend to get at least 1 level in something like swift learner just so I can experience max level gameplay.
Also explored every marked location including all marked locations in all DLCs
If you start with the Skilled trait and take Educated followed by Comprehension early, you can have very high skills starting a low level and can get a lot of XP from NPC interactions: passing dialogue checks. Also, you get more XP from picking locks and hacking terminals than from killing enemies.
I always take Skilled, never take Swift Learner, and I reach level 50 without trying before I am halfway done exploring. If I start the DLCs any time after level 20, I will hit max Level before finishing all 4.
@@CliffSedge-nu5fv In that specific run I played NCR and took skilled. Explored every location picking all locks and hacking all terminals I could find even if they were to irrelevant optional exits I never used, did all quests I could find at those locations that weren’t conflicting to the NCR, even some of the more generic noncombat legion, yes man, and house quests. After doing all the quests I looked up the wiki and did every unmarked or hidden quest I could, then I wiped out every single enemy encampment killing them all. Looked up enemy encounters at unmarked locations and killed them all, did all DLC doing likewise with 100% completion. Was like level 48 going into Hoover dam. Never reached the level 50 perks. A handful of minor quests were locked that I could have theoretically done if not for other options locking them.
Also played with 9 int upgraded to 10 at level 2 and even cheesed legion game at cottonwood for the lucky sunglasses, used skill checks almost all the time they were offered.
I don’t know why I had such low xp gain, only thing I can think if others don’t have that problem is that completing the DLC at lower levels gives less xp or something as I did dead money at level 5 and completed all dlc by around level 25 or so.
The jsawyer mod lets you turn bent cans into normal cans.
I feel like most of the perks that are just bugged should be honorable mentions. Like if you just add a mod that patches the perks so that they function as intended then they're pretty okay. Also I'd say Explorer is more useless than some of these perks since it literally just adds every location to your minimap and nothing else.
I think Weapon Handling's useful if you're only gonna fight with guns/energy weapons. Saving 2 SPECIAL points is a big deal. And sure, there's the strength implant, power armour and spine at the end of OWB but it's a *long* wait to get some of those pieces, especially if you don't know the game inside out. Agree that all these others perks are useless though.
The only time I use force lock is on very easy where it's guaranteed to work.
I dunno, seems kinda like blasphemy not to take Splash Damage when doing an explosives run.
I still take it on those runs, it can still be pretty strong.
Does splash damage lessen the actual damage? Since it increases the radius, I wouldn't be surprised if the damage is just spread a little thinner
It doesnt. I even had to drop anabelle from my explosive run bcuz it would always kill me unless i use it as the "mini nuke lite"
"Splash Damage makes it virtually impossible to use a Fat Man indoors"
bro what
Computer whiz is still good for the few of us who dont cheese the hacking games and like actually playing them