I immediately thought "Before we get started"......then remember it was 2012 and Hydra wasn't exposed yet. 2012 scenes were easily my favourite of the film
John Parr plus when cap returned sitting there Bucky didn’t have to say anything he nodded as if he already knew it was cap sitting there when Sam was still unsure of that was cap
I imagine red skull stamping up a receipt and all for the soul stone 😂😂lmao endgame doesn’t have that many plot holes but it has a heck of a lot of unanswered questions
If they did bring her back somehow, it would undo everything she sacrificed herself for. Even if they bring her back from the past, she wouldn't belong in the present.
I think Cap exchanged the soul stone for Nat... Nat just wanted to go back to a different time because she had found out who her Dad was. Hence, the rumored Black Widow movie has a reason not to be a prequel.
Well, the wizard lady that told hulk about why they had to return the stones in the same time and place or else that timeline would be disrupted completely, so that's probably the true reason as to why Black Widow couldn't be brought back
I think Thanos lied about doing anything to the stones. He hid them after trying unsuccessfully to bring Gamora back. He was injured like the way the Hulk was after trying to be back Widow.
You make it sound like he shrunk them down or something but when he says "I reduced them to atoms" I assumed he just meant he dispersed them into particles. Technically they're not destroyed. Remember supposedly they started out as singularities that condensed down into objects. That could very well happen again and the stones could reform.
Not the same. They already covered that when Vision says how is it any different than when Captain America sacrificed himself in WW2. And again when Vision saves Cap's life in Wakanda
Nebula did give thanos some Pym particle from the 2019 gamora, watch the movie again. With how advanced thanos is, he could have easily duplicated the formula and made more
funnybus3rd then how did she get through in the first place? And how did he use it for his whole space ship? And how did she know how to work the time machine?
They explained in the movie one vial of pym particles was enough for one person to travel back then come back that’s why cap and iron man had to go to the past to get more so there was enough for a trip back for one person not nebula Thanos and millions of chitari
2014 Nebula took 2023 Nebula’s clothes and thus her Quantum gear to travel. She would have to put a sight on Thanos in 2014 to pull him/army through. Not sure how she could shrink the entire ship, nor if it would need shielding.
I"d say Cap returned the time stone first and had the ancient one help return the stones to their original states so he can then return them to where they belong.
@@screechxxx111 But they probably did have a wedding in the 5 years between the beginining and end of the movie. You know, with the whole them having a cabin in the woods and a kid.
I was just about to say it's obvious what cap was gonna do... if I knew bucky sure as hell did. Granted: I didnt see him popping up on that bench but 🤷♂️
Also Buckey wasn't freaking out like Falcon and Hulk when Cap didn't return. I¡m sure they discussed it and Buckey turned down the Shield before Cap even left.
Cap goes back to Vormir, just BEFORE Natasha attempts to jump, prevents them fighting altogether. Gives Hawk Eye the Soul Stone, in exchange for bringing back Natasha to his own timeline... Com'on! 🔥😑🤷♂️
true tho, widow was sacrificed for the stone, not gamora and was brought from 2014 directly to 2019 skipping all that mcu time, so we got pre guardian gamora
@@themonkey5918 pretty sure theyve never discussed the soul stone's policy on taksies backsies.... Trading the soul stone for natasha would still be "a soul for a soul" and should be honored by the space wizards... if not just get Capt. Marvel to talk to their manager... idk why everyone thinks shes gone. Or they could just steal her for another completely fucked universe...
@Jval yes. The stones are most likely not capable of reconstruction, but this universe would not be 'without' infinity stones. They would still control time, reality, power, space, soul, and mind, but they could not be reformed into any singular form.
Omg gamora was NOT brought back. She's dead. That was her past self in the end of endgame. You guys should at least know that before you make a video about it. Edit: wow that's a lot of likes..thanx!💖💖
@@siratmohaiminulislam8677 i agree with you.. I remembered in infinity war, thanos used the time stone to turn on back Vision alive. Why they didn't used the stone to get back iron man alive too.
@@farahhumairah29 actually if they used time stone, the snap by tony would be undone as well, and thanos could get a chance to get the stones and win the war.
Take all this information. Think about the story. If it was gamoras ( past self) wouldn't that also mean thanos and the entire army is therefore there (past self) Does this then mean thanos never continued his future ???????? Did infinity war actually happen
Many people thought that the "rat scene" was very convenient but thinking it clearly, it is actually not. Because jumping to a "5 years later" is not very convenient at all, who knows who's there? but Yes Strange could actually foresaw Ant-man's returned no matter what cause it.
Nothing strange did effected the rat. In looking at the future or possible futures, strange's actions and the actions that are caused by him are the only ones that can change. Which is the majority of the movie, but none of the stuff to do with antman until after he he gets out of the quantum realm.
No, he gambled on the rat. Thats how the branch theory works. Yes he saw that timeline where the rat did that. But he also saw many where the rat didnt. There were a ton of variables that could have affected that rat being there and doing the right things to bring Lang back. He honestly gambled everyones fate on Master Splinter pressing a few buttons lol
Also, theres an ENTIRE scene of Nebula giving Thanos the Pym Particles. And it's likely Maw or one of Thanos' engineers just made the equipment they needed using it
In 2014, guardians of the galaxy movie, i remember nebula betraying thanos, and joins ronan.. not sure how she was so loyal to thanos just before it happened as per End game
Also, they have "time" to do it, since, Nebula could bring them to the future, from any point in the past, that would explain how he gathered all his army.
If they didn't explain it in the movie, then everything else in the movie is up for debate. The directors need to stop "confirming" everything and leave a little to the audience's imagination
Present Gamora is still dead. Endgame Gamora is the one from before she met Star Lord in GOTG1 and was loyal-ish to Thanos. So Black Widow is also still dead unless returning the Soul Stone brought her back.
soul for a soul would make sense if cap put the soul stone back he will get back the person that traded for the soul stone which is black widow, which also lines up for her solo movie but true gamora is still dead
@@ryangriffiths5179 She even specifically states her issue with them taking the stones is just that it will create a divergent timeline, not destroy her reality. Her reality would only be destroyed after that because Dr. Strange wouldn't have had a way to defeat Dormammu.
Ross Calhoun - so we both right. They created divergent timelines but didn’t destroy reality. Also, does that not explain the how’s and why’s with Kang.
Technically the stones still exist they are just particlized. And spread across the universe. Not gone and they are still in their universe, just not usable by anyone.
Vaughan Larmond because at her place in time they still need the stones specifically the time stone to fend off dormomu. Of course the ancient one doesn’t know what role the stone will play, but she still knows that it will be necessary,
@@ejangohyes7821 I know bro, it's just, when they started showing all the main characters from the MCU at Iron Man's funeral, It just felt like they were saying goodbye to Stan Lee instead of Iron Man.
10) No. He dispersed them into their component atoms. They still exist and will, eventually, reform. The Ancient One's warnings are about removing the stones from their native reality / timeline; the stones Thanos "destroyed" weren't removed from their native timeline. They just changed form. 9) You return the Soul Stone to Vormir by taking it there and leaving it there. That you have to sacrifice a life to take it doesn't mean you have to do the same to return it - (nor that returning it restores the life you sacrificed, as explicitly communicated by the Red Skull to HawkGuy and Widow, and separately to Thanos, the sacrifice is permanent and irreversible.) 8) He could have had the Ancient One use the Time Stone to restore their previous forms. But he doesn't actually need to. The Stones need to be returned to their native realities the instant after they left; that doesn't mean they have to be returned to the exact place and state from which they were taken. Cap doesn't actually have to inject the Aether back into Jane. Heck, he could just walk up to Freya and hand it to her, and she can proceed to the "We've removed the Aether from Jane" that immediately followed anyway. The Power Stone's temple gets destroyed, but the stone itself can just be placed in StarLord's bag before he wakes. No need to rebuild the temple, and it's silly to assume they didn't keep the containment sphere they got it in, so they don't need to make a new one of those either. 7) It's left vague, and she's probably still alive, but she really shouldn't be. 6) Gamora wasn't brought back. Even if Gamora is alive, it's an alternate Gamora from an alternate timeline. Theoretically one could travel back and retrieve a copy of Nat from before she sacrificed herself, but that would doom that timeline to not be able to undo its own snap. Despite the dialogue in Infinity War, the Avengers very much do trade lives. Nat trades hers to bring everyone else back. Tony trades his to vanquish Thanos and save all the lives in the universe. 5) Thanos replicated the Temporal GPS and Pym Particles. He's a deranged lunatic with a massive murderboner, but he is also a genius; making more Pym particles when he has a sample (Past!Nebula gives it to him after taking it from Present!Nebula) isn't far-fetched. Nor is him replicating the "temporal GPS" or integrating the Pym tech into his ship. This can easily be accepted as happening off-screen, especially since he had unlimited time to do so. No matter how long it took him to get the tech to work from his end, he'd emerge the moment Past!Nebula opened the Quantum Tunnel for him 4) Yes. Most of whom we've never seen - we're only really introduced to the members of the scholastic competition team. And really if that entire small group got Snapped, does that really strain credibility more than none of the original Avengers being Snapped? (No, it doesn't. An entire high school could fall within the Snapped 50% without straining credibility since it's half of all life) 3) No. All the alternate timelines persist. Cap created an additional new one when he went back to 1948, and he returned from that timeline to say goodbye and hand over the shield to Falcon. 2) He didn't know, but recognized the opportunity, and probably hoped, since he knew probably better than anyone that Cap deserved a happy ending. 1) The film is not pushing the "one timeline theory" We know this because there are explicit references to separate timelines, and also because the Directors have said so. And yes, Cap retired and let the world happen as it did. He'd fought enough, and finally got to go back home.
About the second one, bucky tells steve before he leaves, I'm gonna miss you buddy. So I think Steve told him about his plan before leaving. He didn't tell anyone else and so returned to say goodbye. That is also why bucky pushed sam ahead instead of going to steve himself. He already said his goodbyes. Sam didn't
Ok i get most of them but i still Can't understand the last one and can someone please explain it to me: It is said that when altering the past a different timeline is created that doesn't affect the current one (like when they suggested killing baby Thanos it wouldn't work for their timeline, but it would create a different one without Thanos) That should also apply to Cap, he altered the past and shouldn't be able to go full Back To The Future 2 bc he wouldn't be part of that timeline anymore.
Alien tech mate. Is a space conqueror and we, humans, barely reach the moon. The ship itself could easily be turned into a time travel suit. Asgardian tech is like magic to us, why Thanos' is different?
This is the same theory i thought this channel didn't think enough about. And yes, everything but the suit makes sense... and why would you need a suit, if you can already deal with the harsh pressures of space?
I don't think he did. 2014 Nebula would've used it to return to 2023 (to activate the platform part of the time machine). What you could theorize is that he knew what was needed to time travel (by viewing 2023 Nebula's video memories -- you'll notice she was helping Hulk configure the time suits when they were sending hawkeye for the test run), so in 2014 (off screen) he or his minions went and got more pym particles from earth, etc. or he simply just reverse engineered those parts of the "time machine". Also, it appeared as Tony and Rocket were constructing the platform part, so Nebula maybe wouldn't know about that part of the "time machine", so that was the only part missing for Thanos -- therefore, 2014 Nebula had to return back to 2023 to activate the one at the Avengers base.
Yup. Plus, he had the time stone. All he had to do was rewind the “stone” to the time it was in a “container” or at an “event” and it’s there. Then just hand over the time stone last. Either way, he can do that all day.
Indeed. He even told him "I'll miss you" which means he 100% knew beforehand and it's also why he didn't panic like Sam and Bruce when he didn't come back because he didn't expect him to.
He didn't expect him to because he knows Steve still regrets missing out on his life with peggy. He knew Sam would get the shield because "let's give the title of captain Amerika to someone known by the public as a terrorist " uh no
Jarshall no there isn’t 🤦🏽♀️💀. they jumped from 2018, to 2023 which is 5 years later. and you said 2024, which would make it 6 yrs later. learn math kid 🤠.
Nebula gave Thanos a pim particle and Gamora wasn't brought back (not original Gamora anyway) that's why you can't "bring back black widow".. Still good vid!!
But my theory was this if like they said in endgame that they will return the stones back to there time and it will be like they never were taken then doesnt that mean that black widow sacrifice never happened
@@jimforeman955 I hear you, but they also said you can't go back to the past to change the future, they only went back to retrieve the stones. So the black widow sacrifice cannot change. The only way they could bring her to the present is if they went back in time and brought a past version of black widow
@@PropaganderTV technically, they could go to past timelines 1 second before Ironman and black widow died, save them, and they would basically be the same characters in the future timeline
This. They did actually write a way to bring gamora and black widow from the original timeline back into the story though. They're not technically dead. They're trapped in the soul stone, something that actually happens quite often in the comics, and, in the comics, Adam Warlock can release those trapped in the soul stone, since he has complete control over it.
@@fishnutz5196 I liked the time travel in the tv series: Lost. Hear me out. They went with the "one universe" theory version of time travel and when they went into the past, the past became their future. At the same time, they find out a lot of things in the present were the way they were because of the things THEY caused in the past.
Only because they don't understand it. Avengers did it quite good actually, because, as Banner and the ancient one explained, it is Not really time travel but more like travelling to a parallel universe which is on an earlier point in time. It's a whole New timeline connected though the Quantum realm
Bucky said “I’m going to miss you buddy” so yes he knew, Also Cap can use the TimeStone to restore the stones as he found them, Eg the space stone into its cube etc
On the cap thread, my theory as to why he didn't do anything for all the bad things in the mcu while he was living his life is because of the one timeline. This timeline is the one where they beat thanks. Changing that in any way could lead to thanks winning which if cap knew this, he wouldn't intervine in other affairs as it could damage the entire universe
They missed out on an opportunity with the Rat... they should have used a Squirrel....since one of the people to single handedly beat Thanos was SQUIRREL GIRL.
kcmn00 She kicks Quill in the balls for an event that hadn’t happened by the time she was at the battle. It’s kind of a weird mix of future and past Gamora.
Shadow Of Light she kicked him for trying to hit on her, because she had no idea who he was. Past Gamora. Bringing a past Black Widow forward, even from moments before her death, would cause an offshoot reality where the Avengers fail to get all the stones, and probably still have to deal with 2014 Thanos.
Brian Kyle McCord but it wouldn't affect their timeline tho? This alternative timeline wouldn't affect the original one, but it would bring problems as thanos would be dominant in that future and may travel to the other timeline (2023) and destroy everyone anyways
The writers and directors have already confirmed that EVERY kid at Peter's school was snapped that's why they are all still the same age and none of them had graduated.
@@chaos.corner 50% of all living things in the universe died , I could easily see a scenario where no one on Earth dies because they're in the 50% that survive. It's very possible that no one in Peters school got dusted
@Elliot Olin - Elev Nättraby kunskapscentrum 6B It's not just the evolving technology part, which will be an issue when our inventions of tomorrow are used in the films, but the families of those left behind, most would have moved on. It would create huge social issues that I think the MCU just doesn't want to deal with, kinda like how all of Peter's friends are still his age cause 'it all worked out.'
With the first one, the ancient one was saying that removing the stones in that timeline would stop them from using them, thus causing dormammu to take over the world.
egbert58 Yes, he broke them down to the size of an atom. The smallest unit of matter. That means destroyed. If I take your vehicle and reduce it to single atoms, your vehicle is destroyed. That line Thanos said was to confirm that he destroyed the stones on an atomic level. Not for dipshits who think that it just means the infinity stones are the size of atoms now. No. They’re destroyed. Period.
That's a terrible comparison. A vehicle is the sum of its parts. A stone is not necessarily. There is a difference between reducing the stones to atoms and removing the stones from the timeline. Unless you are arguing that the atoms the stones are made of are different than the stone as a whole in some way other than size. It doesn't seem based on their description that they become the stones by combining other elements. So the premise that the reduced to atoms version of the stones is for purposes of the universe no different is pretty solid. It would simply mean the stones weren't in usable form to a being like Thanos. So it does mean going forward probably no eye for the good doctor. And of course, atoms aren't the smallest unit of matter.
Tony died on the ship in the beginning. The entire movie is his dying hallucination. We all know everyone loves a good ole, “it was all a dream” twist. Right? Right guys?
@@DanielPangemanan oh that's an interesting idea. What if there is not a soul stone UNTIL a soul is sacrificed? That soul's sacrifice is what is used to create a soul stone. Returning the stone returns the soul to "where ever" (heaven, hell, alternate reality, super soul stone reality, etc. etc.?) and therefore the soul can never return - meaning you can never get that person back. Their soul is the stone, until it is either destroyed (??) or returned - multiple timelines or not - which is why you can not bring them back even using all the stones.
"Hi there Mr Red Skull Ghost, I'd like to return this Soul Stone. Yeah, I just didn't like it really. It didn't suit, y'know? What do you mean you can't do refunds? But I paid for this and it's not what I want! I want to speak to your manager!"
Cap goes back to Vormir, just BEFORE Natasha attempts to jump, prevents them fighting altogether. Gives Hawk Eye the Soul Stone, in exchange for bringing back Natasha to his own timeline... Com'on! 🔥😑🤷♂️
The Gamora that was brought back was a past Gamora. Present Gamora is still dead. Hulk was trying to bring back present Black Widow, not a past Black Widow. 6:53 The present year of the movie is 2023, not 2019. 8:32 Separate, not seperate.
Okay here’s the biggest opportunity for marvel, remember when they went back in time and the ancient one was like “yo you take the stone and dont bring it back time lines will split”.. its their strongest weapon to protect their sanctums without it earth is done! Cool time stone can be returned buuuuttt... Loki escaped, thor took the hammer, and hydra knows cap knows about them... they split reality in many different ways... could this be the creation of the marvel multiverse... more importantly finally x-men crossovers? Buuuttt most importantly.. Deadpool meets Spidey?!!
They did split reality in many ways but then fixed it and cut those new realities off by returning everything, including thors hammer, the only alternate reality left would be Loki with the tesseract
Daniel Z yea I just watched it a few hours ago and I do recall he did have the hammer I remember because I question it in my head like why did he have it ??
good point, i think what the sorcerer supreme meant was that the stones 'created' time and space etc.. but nothing more. She just needs them back to use their power as protection for her timeline
Although the stone was destroyed for a brief moment it all still happened in the same timeline meaning the stone never left that time line, the ancient one was saying it would all go bad if the stones were removed from their timeline completely
The Ancient One says the stones create the flow of time she didn't say they maintain the flow of time, there is no reason to think they need to exist for reality to continue, their destruction just puts reality on hard mode.
Yeah I saw this one, as well as the infinity stones placement problem. Captain only needs to move them back to the time where he got them from, doesn't matter where. So long as they exist at that time then the universe is protected. He could put all six on earth in their respective disapperance times and nothing would be problematic. I actually think that number 10 actually leads to next phase and what it means.
Jacob But didn't the Ancient One state that the stones had to be returned to the exact time and place that they were taken from? Like if Cap were to place all 6 back on Earth in the same year wouldn't that still be a problem being that the Soul and Power stones weren't on Earth at that time?
The stones had to be returned to their respective timelines since the Avengers are messing with that. If the stones were removed from their timelines that would have cataclysmic consequences. Destroying the original stones after the snap would have no consequences. I guess they would have returned to the singularities they came from after Thanos destroyed them.
Jacob You are probably right. I was simply asking because I wasn't sure. This is why the movie warrants multiple views because it's a lot to take in. Thanks for responding.
Yes, @@finneh6145, which also explains why this Gamora wasn't in love with Star Lord. This past self of Gamora is before she fell in love with Star Lord. He's pining for *his* Gamora and apparently she no longer exists, and worst of all never will again. So Star Lord will have to either give up on finding love with Gamora again, or try to get to know this Gamora. I have strong doubts she'll find his intimate knowledge about her to be attractive, and quite possibly do everything she can to kill him in order to keep her secrets secret.
@@adamgray1753 well as He said, we dont know what happened to the new gamora so sehe might as well be gone and Guardians 3 could be about quill trying to get the Real gamora back (Adam Warlock maybe?)
6:24 but also remember that mcu time travel is based on multivers theory (like Dragon ball ) meaning if they took a black widow from the past that time line they took her from wouldn't have a black widow any more
But in the movie is not what they said is it??? The Ancian said that if u remove one stone it will create another reality, so they have to return the stone to the same time when they took it... And Banner said that U CAN´T CHANGE THE PAST... And they didn´t go to another reality/time line (if it was said it would make sense, since Thanos from 2014 died in 2023. But it wasn´t the case, is it?), they went back IN TIME...
@@Itagibalves actualy he was right. its using multivwese theory, so basicly when go back u actualy go to another universe, they were trying to take the stones there use it to beat thanos and reserect everyone. and give them back
Smh changing the past won't change your future it will just create a new timeline. hulk even says that killing baby thanos won't change their future it would only create a new universe where thanos never lived
Even if they did take black widow from the past they wouldn't have to worry because they wouldn't be in the universe without blackwidow, it would be a different one
@@tiurmacantik3070 no it's still the same universe untill you change something then at the point that something was changed, it will create a different universe where that change actually changed something
Captain : " ouh red skull we meet again ..... btw here you go * give the soul stone * " Red skull : 🤔🤨 Black widow : *ARE U SERIOUS AM I A JOKE TO YOU*
*Number 3* Loki escaped with the Space Stone, but he‘s still in 2012... Thats why it doesn‘t matter that he escaped cause this actually didn’t happen. Tony & Bruce both explained how time travel works.
They had years to figure it out. Just because Nebula brought Thanos to the current timeline doesn't mean they left their timeline moments after capturing good Nebula.
I agree. Maw should have figured out how it works. Besides they have the 2019 nebula’s memory, piece them out. Reverse engineer Stark’s devices the good nebula brought with her in 2014 and voila. Time travel bitches. That doesn’t need explanations. Hehe
Cap couldve used the time stone in the same way Strange used it on the apple encompassing it within a time sphere and turning back the dial on just the other stones therefore fixing the power stone and space stone containers. Same with Jane Foster. Time stone can literally fix most of these questions and as they said in the end of the film, cap will be gone 5 seconds their time but he'll have all the time in the world he needs, which would include learning how to use the stone. As far as Thanos and the ship he clearly got the rest of Nebulas pym particles and used them on the ship thus making the ship and everyone inside TINY enough for quantum travel. The GPS navigator isnt needed bc hes not being tracked and the suit it just to keep quantum radiation from constantly bombarding their bodies like how it was doing to Hank Pym in Antman and the Wasp. Thanos was going thru to a one way trip, the Avengers were time hopping back and forth thus needed more protection. Sony sources according to IGN said Peter's classmates were snapped along w him. Also it's not half of his classmates, could be all of his classmates and it would still be 50% of life.
Incorrect because you aren’t just able to use the stones with your hand. You have to be a sorcerer and have it contained in some thing to use, also if he did that he would rupture the entire timeline again just like the main plot of the movie
@@techycheese6383 xavier brown 1. You missed the part about the containers in my comment. I already solved that problem 2. You dont have to be a sorcerer, thanos clearly isnt a sorcerer and was able to use the time stone. Also given the logic of the movie the timeline should've already ruptured BEFORE the movie even started bc thanos destroyed the stones. The ancient one said all 6 stones make up the flow of time and removing them from their timeline would be a catastrophic to the time stream yet 5 years goes by with the stones destroyed thus the movie breaking it's own explained logic.
Bale Sahagun thanos has great and strong power even without the infinity stones that’s why he was able to hold the stones plus he has the reality stone wich allows him to do what he wants even revive any one Also if you want proof thanos is strong he did the snap and he didn’t die unlike iron man with his strongest suit
The Spider-Man Far From Home timeline makes sense because all of the kids (if not just the main ones) were snapped. When Hulk brought them back, Spidey was the same age because Hulk restored everything to what it was 5 years ago, in a post 5 year landscape. So all the kids came back the same age and they’re still in High School.
7:01 did you forget that Nebula(2014) took the time bracelet or something and the Pym particles from Nebula (endgame) then gave the Pym particles to Thanos.
Technically they could bring a past Black Widow into 2023, but I think emotionally it would be too painful to do something like that. Also, they would be creating a timeline that no longer has Black Widow and that could be disastrous for the people in it. Obviously there's a timeline now that doesn't have Gamora in it, but the Avengers didn't do that on purpose. So it's really a matter of them having good enough judgment to know bringing back a past Black Widow is a bad idea.
Ya exactly, for them to bring back Black Widow via time travel, they'd just be killing her in another universe. And as cap says, "We don't trade lives"
The timeline we see throughout the movie is exactly like the origanal timeline except cap lives undercover with Peggy carter so he can sit on the bench at the end
Everyone's going based on what Bruce said before Thanos went forward in time. As bruce said to the sourcerer supreme. If they return the stones at the precise moment they were taken it won't create alternate timelines however because all that stuff happened with Loki, Thanos and cap those specific instances create their own alternate timeline. A timeline where Loki escapes the battle of New York. A timeline where Thanos vanishes from existence. And a timeline where Cap stayed with Peggy. All those alternate timeline are their own separate universes. They don't all exist in one alternate universe together.
I believe the Avengers caused time line errors in Endgame, especially with Captain America staying in the past and Ironman losing the tesseract to Loki who escaped. I think these are intentional plot holes for the future and gives me vibes for a specific future villian which can connect Captain Marvel to future films regarding the kree and skrull war/secret invasion. That villian could be.............. Kang The Conqueror
Tony snap would be undone and will set it back right at the point where thanos grabbed the guanlet if that happens he will erase all life and there will be no third chance.
There's a whole bunch of alternate timelines that were created by this movie: 1. Alternate timeline where Loki took the Tesseract and teleported away during the Battle of New York 2. A timeline where Thanos, Nebula, Gamora, and his entire army disappeared at the beginning of Guardians of the Galaxy 1 3. A timeline where Cap and Peggy lived out their lives together even after he went in the ice (cause he traveled back in time to be with her) And we know that they are creating alternate timelines because that's what the Ancient One said... that when you disrupt what should have happened a new alternate timeline branches off with those changes but the original timeline stays unaffected.
I like the theory that the reality where cap and Peggy live out their lives isn't an alternate reality. When Cap visits her in the hospital she knows eventually he'll travel back to be with her. She just can't tell him, she has to let it unfold the way it goes.
In the comics they say it worked for him because of the super soldier serum. But yes, you are right. In the real world frozen animals of any kind are just dead even if flash frozen. They are however safe to eat for a long time.
Q#10- No character in the MCU is infallible nor omniscience.The Ancient One's arguments with Banner proves that results of certain actions can't be determined with science or magic alone. Thanos' actions at the garden was an act of certainty in which in itself is not true; only thing that is permanent is change. Plus there's also the first law of thermodynamics; the stones themselves is a housing for a certain type of energy, even Banner deducted that most of it is gamma. Q#9- "A soul for a soul", the answer is in the question; drop of the soul stone in exchange for what was sacrificed for it. May include include plot details for Black Widow movie if you think about it. Q#8- If they knew how to extract the stones in the first place, obviously they knew how put it back. Its just a matter of movies before we see how exactly Cap did it. Q#7- EG Gamora' final scene in the Endgame was the all-girl-A-Force-hinting group shot while protecting Spider-man and the gauntlet. Tony's snap targeted Thanos' and his allies thus sparing EG Gamora from the decimation. Q#6- IW Gamora is gone and can't be undone since the IW Mind Stone was destroyed by Thanos along in the garden with other stones while EG Gamora is from a parallel timeline where she was never sacrificed and not yet part of the GotG. Travelling back and getting BW from another timeline for her to appear in the EG timeline can't be done "yet" because EG Thanos got there first and blew up the quantum tunnel along with the HQ. Q#5- "You are only a genius here on Earth" Rocket banter with Tony suggest that there also geniuses besides him, like Thanos and Ebony Maw who can easily reverse engineer Pym particles and quantum devices since they got one from GotG Nebula. Q#4- IW snap is random; even we don't know the identity of everyone who was spared or decimated, same goes for Spider-man's classmates. Wait till June to find out. Q#3- No, and it will not be the last one. They can pull out anyone from their own timeline when needed and create another parallel branch timeline if not corrected. Q#2- Bucky knows Steve; childhood friends, brothers-at-arms and co-avengers, if anything the only thing Bucky doesn't know about Steve is the timeline where he choose to remain with Peggy. The "stupid" things Steve took with him bleeds into the next question. Q#1- Both theories happened but parallel to each other; Steve returning into the 70's not 40's creating a parallel timeline where he prepared and counter-acted dire situations which also explains why he travelled back as old Steve into the main MCU timeline, gave the shield to Sam, foreseeing future events. (Civil War,"If I see a situation pointing south I can't ignore it") (AoU; "Every time anyone tries to win a war before it started, innocent people die")
Tiberius Grey the most unanswered question is why they dont just bring tony and nat from the past to the present and replace the dead one? Yes it can happen, same case like thanos and gamora. Of course it will not change the timeline, because quantum realm doesn't do grandfather paradox, it works like if you go back to past and kill baby thanos, it will never change anything in the future, it only creates alternate reality where the snap never done, but it not affect the main reality (endgame reality). It also means everything that happened cant be undo. So basically, they can bring tony and nat from past. "What if tony from past, don't want it?" Oo man, of course he will, tony has always a dream where he can married with potts and have a child, like in IW, when he's dreaming about having a baby and named it morgan, and then he really do it. So tony from past will come to future for his wife and kid. Same like nat loves banner, she also will come to future. Idk maybe this is plothole, but the only answer that i know is, that the contract is finish, so they just killed tony. Russo never answered this question. Is there anyone can answered my question? Btw, sorry if my english is bad, i hope you guys understand.
@@ronaldwijaya6706 past Tony is still not Tony.going through through all dead Tony's experiences makes Tony, Tony. Even past Tony is an imposter to dead Tony.
@@ronaldwijaya6706 Neither Tony nor Nat would want to leave their timeline to join our's because they would be leaving their actual family and friends behind to join look-a-like strangers from a different reality, while possibly dooming their reality, family and friends.
1) If returning all the stones reset the timeline to the way it was, why would Cap interfere? He knows how it will play out and yes there is the “I need to get into the fight” speech from Civil War but 2023 Cap, after losing as much as he did, isn’t as eager to “get into the fight”.
Agreed! Besides. Why interfere when future cap already knows the present outcome doesnt require his assistance. His stubbornness to do what he knows is right always trumps everything. And he knew whats right is to stay back and let it happen as it did when he lived through it.
#5, Nebula gave Thanos pym particles and the bracelet. Between Thanos and his team I am sure they could figure out how this stuff works and recreate it. Like Rocket says to Tony, "You're only smart on Earth".
She does then use them to get to 2023. Maybe they have time to copy them. It was 2014 Thanos? I guess which Thanos does Nebula bring into the present could be an older Thanos who has time to make everything needed. But my point was Nebula does return to the present with them.
To answer some of these question: 1, How did the fabric of space-time continue after stones were destroyed? -Thanos found away to preserve the continuum of space and time without the stones. He is “cursed with....KNOWLEDGE!” 2, how he gets to Vormir? -No idea. Probably fly to Asgard with the hammer. Olden: “whoever worthy possesses the power of Thor.” Cap is Thor now. 3, how did cap made containers for the stones? -once you are on Asgard, they make those things. 4, why you can’t bring back widow from another timeline? -you can. But people in that timeline will be missing a widow. Not ethical. Gamora’s here because she chose to follow her dad to travel here. She can choose to go back. Not right to kidnap people from other realities. 5, how did Thanos figure out time travel? -first, he is the one cursed with KNOWLEDGE! Second, for Thanos he can take years to reverse engineer the time travel device, and still land in the exact moment nebula opens the portal. He might have spent a century to make that time machine, and it won’t make a difference for people in 2023, since 2023 is the destination. 6, Cap went back to a different reality, returned all the stones. Find a way to jump to the main timeline on the bench, instead of the machine. He then changed his name to Joe Biden. And now there he is.
It was broken into extremely tiny pieces but still existed. That's why when thanos turned back time, the debris came back to reform. Only if they are completely removed say not even the atoms of those stones remain can reality suffer.
There was a shot of "old" Nebula handing over "new" Nebula's one remaining dose of Pym particles to Thanos, so that at least covers the "how the ship got small" issue.
@@bryant7369 It would've created a parallel timeline where Thanos never got the soul stone and Gamora was taken. Maybe there's something bad with parallel timelines or something that part I'm not sure.
And when ironman clicked he got rid of everyone from the past who shouldnt be there gamora included the better question is how is nebula still alive since her past self was killed
@@jasonewing8693 her alternative past self died. The other Nebula was so fair the timeline that our Nebula went into I think they just kill off one universe in the multiverse
@@jasonewing8693 smh your dumb, because it doesn't change their timeline it just creates a new one so when nebula killed her past self it doesn't kill her it just makes a separate universe timeline where nebula died in 2014
My theory for #1 is that as long as the stones exist, reality can flow. So when scarlet witch and thanos destroy the stones, they still exist but not in one piece. Thanos says that he “reduced them to atoms”But if a stone is taken from a different time line, then that stone won’t exist at all in that time line.
Who got surprised and laughed when cap said "hail hydra"while we were expecting a lift fight (same as in the winter solder)
I did.
I was expecting a fight too lol
I am expecting it too!
I immediately thought "Before we get started"......then remember it was 2012 and Hydra wasn't exposed yet. 2012 scenes were easily my favourite of the film
I did
Bucky definitely knew about Cap's plan...."I'm going to miss you, pal"
John Parr plus when cap returned sitting there Bucky didn’t have to say anything he nodded as if he already knew it was cap sitting there when Sam was still unsure of that was cap
lol boring
John Parr yes for sure.
And Bucky knew that Cap saw this as a chance to be together with Carter again
you are a bit
cap "c'mon we only used it twice"
red skull "that's not how this works, you can't just refund it"
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Cap : May I speak with your manger
OceanMortality Well what if I kick your butt again?
I imagine red skull stamping up a receipt and all for the soul stone 😂😂lmao endgame doesn’t have that many plot holes but it has a heck of a lot of unanswered questions
Red Skull is a Worka-Nazi
Bad Joke
I wish they would make a captain America 4 but make it about his journey returning the stones
I used the stones to return the stones. Then I went and fuked the prom queen.
Captain America: return of the stones
They should make a movie
Gamora didn’t come back to life though. It’s her past self coming to the present. So it makes sense that black widow didn’t come back during the snap
If they did bring her back somehow, it would undo everything she sacrificed herself for. Even if they bring her back from the past, she wouldn't belong in the present.
They could totally bring back a younger black widow, but ya, her sacrifice would mean nothing if she came back
I think Cap exchanged the soul stone for Nat... Nat just wanted to go back to a different time because she had found out who her Dad was. Hence, the rumored Black Widow movie has a reason not to be a prequel.
Well, the wizard lady that told hulk about why they had to return the stones in the same time and place or else that timeline would be disrupted completely, so that's probably the true reason as to why Black Widow couldn't be brought back
IKR? Who ever said this couldn't be explain is seriously ill.
Thanos didn't destroy the gems. He reduced them to a subatomic level, he even said it when they asked him.
Correct infinity stones cannot destroy themselves. That's marvel comic rule 1
I think Thanos lied about doing anything to the stones. He hid them after trying unsuccessfully to bring Gamora back. He was injured like the way the Hulk was after trying to be back Widow.
@@johnnyjocoserious3733 I think he lied too
@@johnnyjocoserious3733 as way back as 2012 they could track the space stone. Shouldn't they be able to tell if he was lying?
You make it sound like he shrunk them down or something but when he says "I reduced them to atoms" I assumed he just meant he dispersed them into particles. Technically they're not destroyed. Remember supposedly they started out as singularities that condensed down into objects. That could very well happen again and the stones could reform.
Cap: We don't trade lives
Black widow:
Iron Man:
Cap: wait that's illegal
If they arent ready to make sacrifices, they cant win
Cap wants to know your location*
LANGUAGE!!
Not the same. They already covered that when Vision says how is it any different than when Captain America sacrificed himself in WW2. And again when Vision saves Cap's life in Wakanda
Nebula did give thanos some Pym particle from the 2019 gamora, watch the movie again. With how advanced thanos is, he could have easily duplicated the formula and made more
funnybus3rd Thank you! Was wondering if this guy was bonkers, or I was. Thought I remembered Evil Nebula getting Pym Particles...
So How did Evil nebula come back? There was 1 Shot of pym particle I think.
funnybus3rd then how did she get through in the first place? And how did he use it for his whole space ship? And how did she know how to work the time machine?
They explained in the movie one vial of pym particles was enough for one person to travel back then come back that’s why cap and iron man had to go to the past to get more so there was enough for a trip back for one person not nebula Thanos and millions of chitari
2014 Nebula took 2023 Nebula’s clothes and thus her Quantum gear to travel. She would have to put a sight on Thanos in 2014 to pull him/army through. Not sure how she could shrink the entire ship, nor if it would need shielding.
I"d say Cap returned the time stone first and had the ancient one help return the stones to their original states so he can then return them to where they belong.
ummmm....ok lol.
Headcanon accepted!
That's my theory too but I never asked the question till other people brought it up lol people just want to find a plothole
@@36090pburke If it's not said or seen in a film then it's a plothole.
@@gohanson27 not every detail has to be explained for me it isn't
I really just want to know if Wong went to Tony's wedding.
I want that answered too!
Tony's dead. There is no wedding
@@screechxxx111 But they probably did have a wedding in the 5 years between the beginining and end of the movie. You know, with the whole them having a cabin in the woods and a kid.
Angel Torres
Tony got married within the five years after the snap.
Nah, what about the Ghost girl in Ant Man & the Wasp? Didn't she died 5 years later because the cure is still with Ant Man for 5 years
The real hero of endgame was the one who set endgame in motion, his name... Is Ratman
Splinter / Mickey ???
Ratboi
People say it started with iron man ... which is a lie as captain marvel was the first avenger...
@@mecurseyoumimikyu4701 Captain America: The First Avenger
The real hero were the terrorists in Iron Man who blew a fucking shrapnel hole in Tony Stark’s chest
Buckey knew, before Cap left Buckey hugs him and says "I'm gonna miss you man", so yeah, he knew what Cap was up to.
I was just about to say it's obvious what cap was gonna do... if I knew bucky sure as hell did.
Granted: I didnt see him popping up on that bench but 🤷♂️
Also Buckey wasn't freaking out like Falcon and Hulk when Cap didn't return. I¡m sure they discussed it and Buckey turned down the Shield before Cap even left.
it wasn’t the same gamora it was an alternate time lines gamora how do people not understand that
Cap goes back to Vormir, just BEFORE Natasha attempts to jump, prevents them fighting altogether. Gives Hawk Eye the Soul Stone, in exchange for bringing back Natasha to his own timeline...
Com'on! 🔥😑🤷♂️
true tho, widow was sacrificed for the stone, not gamora and was brought from 2014 directly to 2019 skipping all that mcu time, so we got pre guardian gamora
@@GetUrOwnHandle how?
@@GetUrOwnHandle That'd just create another branching timeline (which they're trying to avoid).
gabe Resendez exactly people don’t know what they’re talking sbout
I kinda liked how the ancient one was shown fighting the aliens in the battle of New York. (Aka avengers 1)
Yeah I also liked how the hulk was shown to talk in the first avengers (except smash)
She was a really cool character
Marvel nailed all those back stories to absolute perfection... now they just need to plug all the holes!
A bald British white woman instead of a Tibetan monk was not cool.
@@kalmykdude she was celtic tho
Doctor Strange raises one finger: take one stone and go up, he can’t fly.
Ironman: okay
Also Ironman: I am Ironman(snaps)
Doctor Strange:???
Honestly, I thought that’s what Tony was doing... lol I thought he only took one stone to prevent Thanos from snapping but then he snapped back... 😭😭😭
He raised his finger signaling that of the millionth battles lost this is that 1 moment where they would come with that win.
HAHAHAHAHA. this is actually really funny 🤣
@@traefivevideo556 no shit
@@traefivevideo556 chance* not moment but yeah.
“A soul for a soul”
Here’s the soul stone, give me black widow
You cant dont that the movie was clear about it.
The Mon key you can’t use the stones power to do it, but he said a soul for soul
@@themonkey5918 pretty sure theyve never discussed the soul stone's policy on taksies backsies....
Trading the soul stone for natasha would still be "a soul for a soul" and should be honored by the space wizards... if not just get Capt. Marvel to talk to their manager... idk why everyone thinks shes gone.
Or they could just steal her for another completely fucked universe...
#1 Why didn't antman simply kill Thanos by expanding inside him?
He did.....in one of the other timelines
They already debunked that it wouldn't work. ;)
@@G33kissexy wow you must be fun at parties
I would prefer the wasp!
Lol it’s not funny anymore, & neither is the Rat jokes.
The stones aren't gone. They are just reduced to atoms. They have lost their physical form
I agree
Nothing is ever "destroyed", it just changes form
@Jval yes. The stones are most likely not capable of reconstruction, but this universe would not be 'without' infinity stones. They would still control time, reality, power, space, soul, and mind, but they could not be reformed into any singular form.
The infinity dust, next avenger movie?
Still doesn’t answer the biggest question.....
WHY IS GAMORA?
Just wait untill gotg vol 3 to find out
Llew Adamson I’ll do u one better
Me is Gamora
Llew Adamson - lololol 😂😂😂
Lmao!
😆
Omg gamora was NOT brought back. She's dead. That was her past self in the end of endgame. You guys should at least know that before you make a video about it. Edit: wow that's a lot of likes..thanx!💖💖
But shouldn't she have died after Tony's snap? She was part of Thanos' timeline army. IJS
I think the video says about bringing the past gamora to present. If this is possible, then why can't you bring past natasha to present?
@@siratmohaiminulislam8677 i agree with you.. I remembered in infinity war, thanos used the time stone to turn on back Vision alive. Why they didn't used the stone to get back iron man alive too.
@@farahhumairah29 actually if they used time stone, the snap by tony would be undone as well, and thanos could get a chance to get the stones and win the war.
Take all this information. Think about the story. If it was gamoras ( past self) wouldn't that also mean thanos and the entire army is therefore there (past self)
Does this then mean thanos never continued his future ???????? Did infinity war actually happen
1. So Strange Predicted The Rat Saving The Universe
Avengers: what ever it takes
Rat: you guys owe me alot of cheese
Many people thought that the "rat scene" was very convenient but thinking it clearly, it is actually not. Because jumping to a "5 years later" is not very convenient at all, who knows who's there? but Yes Strange could actually foresaw Ant-man's returned no matter what cause it.
You should have seen the timeline where the rat shit on the dashboard. Doctor Strange was pretty upset that it was so close LOLOL
Nothing strange did effected the rat. In looking at the future or possible futures, strange's actions and the actions that are caused by him are the only ones that can change. Which is the majority of the movie, but none of the stuff to do with antman until after he he gets out of the quantum realm.
No, he gambled on the rat. Thats how the branch theory works. Yes he saw that timeline where the rat did that. But he also saw many where the rat didnt. There were a ton of variables that could have affected that rat being there and doing the right things to bring Lang back. He honestly gambled everyones fate on Master Splinter pressing a few buttons lol
Also, theres an ENTIRE scene of Nebula giving Thanos the Pym Particles. And it's likely Maw or one of Thanos' engineers just made the equipment they needed using it
In 2014, guardians of the galaxy movie, i remember nebula betraying thanos, and joins ronan.. not sure how she was so loyal to thanos just before it happened as per End game
Yeah lmao idk how this youtuber thinks that's a valid question. It was such an obvious moment.
She knocks out new Nebula changes the plate, takes the pym particles and GPS wrist and then heads to Thanos.
Also, they have "time" to do it, since, Nebula could bring them to the future, from any point in the past, that would explain how he gathered all his army.
And she took the time GPS from the currect Nebula!
The Russo bros confirmed that Cap lived out his life in an alternate timeline and travelled back to the MCU timeline to give falcon his shield.
It's one single timeline
Source ?
He stayed in the timeline he went back to
It’s separate timelines
If they didn't explain it in the movie, then everything else in the movie is up for debate. The directors need to stop "confirming" everything and leave a little to the audience's imagination
Present Gamora is still dead.
Endgame Gamora is the one from before she met Star Lord in GOTG1 and was loyal-ish to Thanos.
So Black Widow is also still dead unless returning the Soul Stone brought her back.
fishpop holy sht that answer all.
I am just wondering. Why was black widow not back in that timeline and gamora can?
Kirsten Hoppins Pym particle . probably
soul for a soul would make sense if cap put the soul stone back he will get back the person that traded for the soul stone which is black widow, which also lines up for her solo movie but true gamora is still dead
U can't undo anything after sacrificing a life to the soul stone.
#10 he split the stones into atoms but they remain in universe
That's bloody amazing but how tf do you put the stones together without the stones
Because... its comics
Actually she said that the stones created time as we know it. Never said that time ends if the stones destroyed.
@@ryangriffiths5179 She even specifically states her issue with them taking the stones is just that it will create a divergent timeline, not destroy her reality. Her reality would only be destroyed after that because Dr. Strange wouldn't have had a way to defeat Dormammu.
Ross Calhoun - so we both right. They created divergent timelines but didn’t destroy reality. Also, does that not explain the how’s and why’s with Kang.
Technically the stones still exist they are just particlized. And spread across the universe. Not gone and they are still in their universe, just not usable by anyone.
Henry Knippling that seems like the most obvious answer,idk why it’s not in the video
So why did the sorcerer supreme make such a big deal out of returning them then.. 🤔
Vaughan Larmond because at her place in time they still need the stones specifically the time stone to fend off dormomu. Of course the ancient one doesn’t know what role the stone will play, but she still knows that it will be necessary,
How about the stone that DR. STRANGE possesses? Was it brought back to him?
kernelspy nope
Did anyone else get Stan Lee vibes when they showed Tony Starks Funeral?
R.I.P.🙏😢
...yes...
No.
@@andrewmayes9011 stan lee is in the movie tho
No
@@ejangohyes7821 I know bro, it's just, when they started showing all the main characters from the MCU at Iron Man's funeral, It just felt like they were saying goodbye to Stan Lee instead of Iron Man.
But I am still wondering..
*Why is Gamora?*
You are invisible since u have managed to stay extremely still
This question cannot be answered.
@@joeabbotts4028 ... You're eating a zarg nut.
Marvel should make a movie of Cap returning the stones..
A quick montage prob would've made a good post credit scene, at the very least.
Yeah, a lot plot lines to be filled in.
I tought the same when I was watching the movie with my friends.
Most likely no. From what I know Chris's contract has ended, unless he sign one again.
@@nzbrat4332 what does you watching endgame with friends have to do with cap bringing back the stones to their timelines
10) No. He dispersed them into their component atoms. They still exist and will, eventually, reform. The Ancient One's warnings are about removing the stones from their native reality / timeline; the stones Thanos "destroyed" weren't removed from their native timeline. They just changed form.
9) You return the Soul Stone to Vormir by taking it there and leaving it there. That you have to sacrifice a life to take it doesn't mean you have to do the same to return it - (nor that returning it restores the life you sacrificed, as explicitly communicated by the Red Skull to HawkGuy and Widow, and separately to Thanos, the sacrifice is permanent and irreversible.)
8) He could have had the Ancient One use the Time Stone to restore their previous forms. But he doesn't actually need to. The Stones need to be returned to their native realities the instant after they left; that doesn't mean they have to be returned to the exact place and state from which they were taken. Cap doesn't actually have to inject the Aether back into Jane. Heck, he could just walk up to Freya and hand it to her, and she can proceed to the "We've removed the Aether from Jane" that immediately followed anyway. The Power Stone's temple gets destroyed, but the stone itself can just be placed in StarLord's bag before he wakes. No need to rebuild the temple, and it's silly to assume they didn't keep the containment sphere they got it in, so they don't need to make a new one of those either.
7) It's left vague, and she's probably still alive, but she really shouldn't be.
6) Gamora wasn't brought back. Even if Gamora is alive, it's an alternate Gamora from an alternate timeline. Theoretically one could travel back and retrieve a copy of Nat from before she sacrificed herself, but that would doom that timeline to not be able to undo its own snap. Despite the dialogue in Infinity War, the Avengers very much do trade lives. Nat trades hers to bring everyone else back. Tony trades his to vanquish Thanos and save all the lives in the universe.
5) Thanos replicated the Temporal GPS and Pym Particles. He's a deranged lunatic with a massive murderboner, but he is also a genius; making more Pym particles when he has a sample (Past!Nebula gives it to him after taking it from Present!Nebula) isn't far-fetched. Nor is him replicating the "temporal GPS" or integrating the Pym tech into his ship. This can easily be accepted as happening off-screen, especially since he had unlimited time to do so. No matter how long it took him to get the tech to work from his end, he'd emerge the moment Past!Nebula opened the Quantum Tunnel for him
4) Yes. Most of whom we've never seen - we're only really introduced to the members of the scholastic competition team. And really if that entire small group got Snapped, does that really strain credibility more than none of the original Avengers being Snapped? (No, it doesn't. An entire high school could fall within the Snapped 50% without straining credibility since it's half of all life)
3) No. All the alternate timelines persist. Cap created an additional new one when he went back to 1948, and he returned from that timeline to say goodbye and hand over the shield to Falcon.
2) He didn't know, but recognized the opportunity, and probably hoped, since he knew probably better than anyone that Cap deserved a happy ending.
1) The film is not pushing the "one timeline theory" We know this because there are explicit references to separate timelines, and also because the Directors have said so. And yes, Cap retired and let the world happen as it did. He'd fought enough, and finally got to go back home.
EXACTLY
well said.
About the second one, bucky tells steve before he leaves, I'm gonna miss you buddy. So I think Steve told him about his plan before leaving. He didn't tell anyone else and so returned to say goodbye. That is also why bucky pushed sam ahead instead of going to steve himself. He already said his goodbyes. Sam didn't
Ok i get most of them but i still Can't understand the last one and can someone please explain it to me:
It is said that when altering the past a different timeline is created that doesn't affect the current one (like when they suggested killing baby Thanos it wouldn't work for their timeline, but it would create a different one without Thanos)
That should also apply to Cap, he altered the past and shouldn't be able to go full Back To The Future 2 bc he wouldn't be part of that timeline anymore.
Thank you! Only no. 8: cap and the other ones can’t touch the stones, they have to be put in a containment?
Past thanos had the pym particles he took from nebula. But no suit.
angel rodriguez yeah i was gonna say that
He also had the GPS from the present Nebula.
Alien tech mate. Is a space conqueror and we, humans, barely reach the moon. The ship itself could easily be turned into a time travel suit. Asgardian tech is like magic to us, why Thanos' is different?
This is the same theory i thought this channel didn't think enough about. And yes, everything but the suit makes sense... and why would you need a suit, if you can already deal with the harsh pressures of space?
I don't think he did. 2014 Nebula would've used it to return to 2023 (to activate the platform part of the time machine). What you could theorize is that he knew what was needed to time travel (by viewing 2023 Nebula's video memories -- you'll notice she was helping Hulk configure the time suits when they were sending hawkeye for the test run), so in 2014 (off screen) he or his minions went and got more pym particles from earth, etc. or he simply just reverse engineered those parts of the "time machine". Also, it appeared as Tony and Rocket were constructing the platform part, so Nebula maybe wouldn't know about that part of the "time machine", so that was the only part missing for Thanos -- therefore, 2014 Nebula had to return back to 2023 to activate the one at the Avengers base.
What is better?
Like for marvel
Comment for DC
Marvel. Am I doing it right?
I like both
I'll give you two reasons why DC is better: Darkseid and Batman.
I bet dc will get huge now
Dc died when Nolan stopped directing the films
Imagine being snapped back and your wife is married to someone else
Like The 4400.
therealeverton exactly like it.
So do you have to pay your back bills too?
Jeff Padilla I hope not. Lol
Imagine having a wife
Cap didn't have to put the stones where the exact place they found it , it just need to stay in that reality.
The exact moment, yes.
Someone said it... This youtuber need to see this..
Yup. Plus, he had the time stone. All he had to do was rewind the “stone” to the time it was in a “container” or at an “event” and it’s there. Then just hand over the time stone last. Either way, he can do that all day.
Exactly, they have already fucked up those timelines it doesnt matter if they go missing, as long as they arent in their universe
Sheppard Alaimaleata haha genius! That’s exactly what I was thinking
Bucky didn't guess. I think it's pretty clear Cap let him know beforehand.
Absolutely
Indeed. He even told him "I'll miss you" which means he 100% knew beforehand and it's also why he didn't panic like Sam and Bruce when he didn't come back because he didn't expect him to.
He didn't expect him to because he knows Steve still regrets missing out on his life with peggy. He knew Sam would get the shield because "let's give the title of captain Amerika to someone known by the public as a terrorist " uh no
@Luke T. Captain African-American!
No in the mcu Bucky is a terrorist. That's why Falcon got the shield.
Thanos is brought from 2014 to 2023, since it’s 5 years after infinity war, not 2014 to 2019
Caleb West 2024
Opn ShinyTTar 2018+5=2023
@@mariahm3351 I'm sure there is a 2 year time skip somewhere
Jarshall no there isn’t 🤦🏽♀️💀. they jumped from 2018, to 2023 which is 5 years later. and you said 2024, which would make it 6 yrs later. learn math kid 🤠.
mariah m You and Caleb don't get it...the movie even SAID 2024. watch it again!
Nebula gave Thanos a pim particle and Gamora wasn't brought back (not original Gamora anyway) that's why you can't "bring back black widow".. Still good vid!!
But my theory was this if like they said in endgame that they will return the stones back to there time and it will be like they never were taken then doesnt that mean that black widow sacrifice never happened
@@jimforeman955 I hear you, but they also said you can't go back to the past to change the future, they only went back to retrieve the stones. So the black widow sacrifice cannot change. The only way they could bring her to the present is if they went back in time and brought a past version of black widow
@@PropaganderTV technically, they could go to past timelines 1 second before Ironman and black widow died, save them, and they would basically be the same characters in the future timeline
This. They did actually write a way to bring gamora and black widow from the original timeline back into the story though. They're not technically dead. They're trapped in the soul stone, something that actually happens quite often in the comics, and, in the comics, Adam Warlock can release those trapped in the soul stone, since he has complete control over it.
@@joshdyeify that makes sense, but couldn't they also save Ironman?
How did that rat know which buttons to press?!
*RATMAN CONFIRMED*
Which rat? What buttons?
gagands93 rat that brought back ant mant
@@gagands93 Are you stupid?
gagands93 did you even watch the movie
Because it was mickey mouse its a disney movie after all
Best moment:
“Avengers assemble”
- Captain America
Made me cry actually! Was so happy to finally hear/see that moment, waited so long
Yes it was but then Iron Man snapped
nah its i love u 3000
This movie must be renamed "CAPTAIN AMERICA: ENDGAME"
Ashish Prabhakar just no
Is it weird that the rat saved the MCU
Weirder than a giant ant playing drums?
@@lurkzie not as weird as that
Just luck that he happened to be on his way to train some turtles...
This is why a man dislikes time travel plots, always creates more questions than they answer.
Not 1 show or movie or game has done time travel right haha
@@fishnutz5196 true
@@fishnutz5196 I liked the time travel in the tv series: Lost. Hear me out. They went with the "one universe" theory version of time travel and when they went into the past, the past became their future. At the same time, they find out a lot of things in the present were the way they were because of the things THEY caused in the past.
@@wolfethorne6446 Yup, LOST got it right.
Whatever happened, happened.
They caused "the incident" which required the code to be input over and over..
Only because they don't understand it. Avengers did it quite good actually, because, as Banner and the ancient one explained, it is Not really time travel but more like travelling to a parallel universe which is on an earlier point in time. It's a whole New timeline connected though the Quantum realm
Um Gamora didn’t return it was her past self that came back with Nebula’s past self.
exactly this video is so stupid
Ik I litrily just watched it
Yep, can't believe they missed that. I thought it was obvious.
Nebulas past self died what you mean it’s future nebula who came back with past Gamora
But is she is in the future then the past cannot play out properly as thanks would not have her to sacrifice to gain the soul stone
Bucky said “I’m going to miss you buddy” so yes he knew,
Also Cap can use the TimeStone to restore the stones as he found them, Eg the space stone into its cube etc
Charlie Hibbitt my friend. You are the first person to hypothesize just how Cap might’ve actually pulled it off.
On the cap thread, my theory as to why he didn't do anything for all the bad things in the mcu while he was living his life is because of the one timeline. This timeline is the one where they beat thanks. Changing that in any way could lead to thanks winning which if cap knew this, he wouldn't intervine in other affairs as it could damage the entire universe
Luke Reitmeier that’s about as good a reason as any.
Damn son u done did it
It was mickey mouse
There is a scene where the "Evil" Nebula takes the "good" Nebulas Pym particle and gives it to Thanos.
They missed out on an opportunity with the Rat... they should have used a Squirrel....since one of the people to single handedly beat Thanos was SQUIRREL GIRL.
Lol
Small nitpick, but Thanos was brought to 2023, not 2019.
yeah for him it's 9 years in the future
Remember... 5 years into the future
Yeah that’s what I was thinking so are the next MCU movies gonna be 5 years in the future?
#6 is stupid gamora wasn’t revived they went back in time and saw the 2014 gamora
She was in the final fight.
@@SpinningTurtle66 That's the Gamora from the past.
kcmn00 She kicks Quill in the balls for an event that hadn’t happened by the time she was at the battle. It’s kind of a weird mix of future and past Gamora.
Shadow Of Light she kicked him for trying to hit on her, because she had no idea who he was. Past Gamora.
Bringing a past Black Widow forward, even from moments before her death, would cause an offshoot reality where the Avengers fail to get all the stones, and probably still have to deal with 2014 Thanos.
Brian Kyle McCord but it wouldn't affect their timeline tho? This alternative timeline wouldn't affect the original one, but it would bring problems as thanos would be dominant in that future and may travel to the other timeline (2023) and destroy everyone anyways
He didn’t destroy the stones. he literally said AT THE BEGINNING “I shrunk them down to atom size, and with doing so it almost killed me” stoopid
Zdaychill Yt No, he said he “reduced them to atoms,” meaning he basically disintegrated them.
@@brianm6013 basically destroying them is not destroying them. So the person is right
@@brianm6013 last time i checked atoms are a thing
The Mon key Any way you slice it, the original comment was wrong. The “quote” was not a correct quote, it was incorrectly paraphrased.
The writers and directors have already confirmed that EVERY kid at Peter's school was snapped that's why they are all still the same age and none of them had graduated.
Wow, that's some long odds.
Very convenient 👍
@@kobrien4121 Barly an inconviniance. :D
Teachers too ?
@@chaos.corner 50% of all living things in the universe died , I could easily see a scenario where no one on Earth dies because they're in the 50% that survive. It's very possible that no one in Peters school got dusted
Quick reminder: Everybody returns to 2023, not 2019.
I can't believe they keep saying 2019. It's ridiculous.
that's when we will get and a new Avengers or "present" movie on Earth
I think they might ignore that it's 2023 now in the MCU, otherwise it creates some issues for future movies.
2022** Infinity war took place in 2017.
@Elliot Olin - Elev Nättraby kunskapscentrum 6B It's not just the evolving technology part, which will be an issue when our inventions of tomorrow are used in the films, but the families of those left behind, most would have moved on. It would create huge social issues that I think the MCU just doesn't want to deal with, kinda like how all of Peter's friends are still his age cause 'it all worked out.'
The stones still exist, just on an atomic level. Conservation of Mass.
With the first one, the ancient one was saying that removing the stones in that timeline would stop them from using them, thus causing dormammu to take over the world.
He didn't destroy them, he also said he reduced them to the sign of an atom
He straight up says he used the stones to destroy the stones.
@@tannerheslet5347 and also the sign of an atom thing
egbert58 Yes, he broke them down to the size of an atom. The smallest unit of matter. That means destroyed. If I take your vehicle and reduce it to single atoms, your vehicle is destroyed. That line Thanos said was to confirm that he destroyed the stones on an atomic level. Not for dipshits who think that it just means the infinity stones are the size of atoms now. No. They’re destroyed. Period.
That's a terrible comparison. A vehicle is the sum of its parts. A stone is not necessarily. There is a difference between reducing the stones to atoms and removing the stones from the timeline. Unless you are arguing that the atoms the stones are made of are different than the stone as a whole in some way other than size. It doesn't seem based on their description that they become the stones by combining other elements. So the premise that the reduced to atoms version of the stones is for purposes of the universe no different is pretty solid. It would simply mean the stones weren't in usable form to a being like Thanos. So it does mean going forward probably no eye for the good doctor. And of course, atoms aren't the smallest unit of matter.
“I used the stones to destroy the stones. Reduced to nothing but the size of an atom.”
Tony died on the ship in the beginning. The entire movie is his dying hallucination. We all know everyone loves a good ole, “it was all a dream” twist. Right? Right guys?
Nice.
You have to trade a soul for the Soul Stone. It doesn’t cost anything to give it back. smh. The cost to get it can’t be undone.
BurningBeard yup that’s what i thought, you dont need to return them, you can always make a soul stone so to speak
@@DanielPangemanan oh that's an interesting idea. What if there is not a soul stone UNTIL a soul is sacrificed? That soul's sacrifice is what is used to create a soul stone. Returning the stone returns the soul to "where ever" (heaven, hell, alternate reality, super soul stone reality, etc. etc.?) and therefore the soul can never return - meaning you can never get that person back. Their soul is the stone, until it is either destroyed (??) or returned - multiple timelines or not - which is why you can not bring them back even using all the stones.
"Hi there Mr Red Skull Ghost, I'd like to return this Soul Stone. Yeah, I just didn't like it really. It didn't suit, y'know? What do you mean you can't do refunds? But I paid for this and it's not what I want! I want to speak to your manager!"
Cap goes back to Vormir, just BEFORE Natasha attempts to jump, prevents them fighting altogether. Gives Hawk Eye the Soul Stone, in exchange for bringing back Natasha to his own timeline...
Com'on! 🔥😑🤷♂️
Vaughan Larmond well she would still be dead in our time line causing changing the past doesn’t change the future in the mcu
Some of your questions are answerable if you just listened and watched the movie carefully. 😂
The Gamora that was brought back was a past Gamora. Present Gamora is still dead. Hulk was trying to bring back present Black Widow, not a past Black Widow.
6:53 The present year of the movie is 2023, not 2019.
8:32 Separate, not seperate.
ArchangelExile 2018 was infinity war and endgame was 2023.
ArchangelExile glad to see someone understands
ehh i kinda don’t like bringing back gamora. Seems off
@@MattGarcyaDC That means the Quill of her timeline doesn't fall in love with her. :(
@@sjb_92 Searching for alternate timeline Gamora along with Thor being Guardian is possible plot for Guardians of the Galaxy 3.
Where did that 🐀 go? And when is his statue being erected?
Where u at bobby
stupid
The only Real question that should be asked is:. WHEN WILL MARVEL MAKE A KORG SOLO MOVIE?????
Piss off ghost
Not solo, the Adventures of Rockman and Knives for Hands.
Was he in the final fight I dont remember tbh
Movie name "KORG: PISS OFF GHOST!!"
He'll be in Deadpool 3. Noobslayer69 IS Deadpool😉
Okay here’s the biggest opportunity for marvel, remember when they went back in time and the ancient one was like “yo you take the stone and dont bring it back time lines will split”.. its their strongest weapon to protect their sanctums without it earth is done! Cool time stone can be returned buuuuttt... Loki escaped, thor took the hammer, and hydra knows cap knows about them... they split reality in many different ways... could this be the creation of the marvel multiverse... more importantly finally x-men crossovers? Buuuttt most importantly.. Deadpool meets Spidey?!!
They did split reality in many ways but then fixed it and cut those new realities off by returning everything, including thors hammer, the only alternate reality left would be Loki with the tesseract
Jander Chiasson i dont recall him having the hammer when he went back, would need to watch again.
Daniel Z yea I just watched it a few hours ago and I do recall he did have the hammer I remember because I question it in my head like why did he have it ??
Raquel Figueroa ahhh well.. still could be a cool way to bring in x-men into the picture!
Daniel Z that’s true 🤔🤔
Actually Scarlet Witch destroyed one of the stones and nothing happened
good point, i think what the sorcerer supreme meant was that the stones 'created' time and space etc.. but nothing more. She just needs them back to use their power as protection for her timeline
Although the stone was destroyed for a brief moment it all still happened in the same timeline meaning the stone never left that time line, the ancient one was saying it would all go bad if the stones were removed from their timeline completely
The Ancient One says the stones create the flow of time she didn't say they maintain the flow of time, there is no reason to think they need to exist for reality to continue, their destruction just puts reality on hard mode.
Yeah I saw this one, as well as the infinity stones placement problem. Captain only needs to move them back to the time where he got them from, doesn't matter where. So long as they exist at that time then the universe is protected. He could put all six on earth in their respective disapperance times and nothing would be problematic. I actually think that number 10 actually leads to next phase and what it means.
Jacob But didn't the Ancient One state that the stones had to be returned to the exact time and place that they were taken from? Like if Cap were to place all 6 back on Earth in the same year wouldn't that still be a problem being that the Soul and Power stones weren't on Earth at that time?
The stones had to be returned to their respective timelines since the Avengers are messing with that. If the stones were removed from their timelines that would have cataclysmic consequences. Destroying the original stones after the snap would have no consequences. I guess they would have returned to the singularities they came from after Thanos destroyed them.
@@peartdahurt my memory recalls nothing about place. What she said was that they simply needed to exist within that time to protect the universe
Jacob You are probably right. I was simply asking because I wasn't sure. This is why the movie warrants multiple views because it's a lot to take in. Thanks for responding.
Nebula DID give Thanos the Pym particles and the wrist/hand band
That was used by the bad nebula to get to the present timeline. Thanos ship had none of the stuff needed to time travel
A rat saves the universe 🐀
Thanos: Am I a joke to you?
ThAnKs FOr tHe LikEs
yes Mickey the mouse, the mascot of Walt Disney saved the universe.
Plot story
1. Cap returned them
2. Cap returned them
3. Cap returned them
4. He reduced them to a subatomic level
He said something like "I Split them into their Atoms" so He really destroyed them
Gamora wasn't brought back it was her from the past.
Thank you! Finally someone who understood what Banner and the ancient one explained
Yes, @@finneh6145, which also explains why this Gamora wasn't in love with Star Lord. This past self of Gamora is before she fell in love with Star Lord. He's pining for *his* Gamora and apparently she no longer exists, and worst of all never will again. So Star Lord will have to either give up on finding love with Gamora again, or try to get to know this Gamora. I have strong doubts she'll find his intimate knowledge about her to be attractive, and quite possibly do everything she can to kill him in order to keep her secrets secret.
@@adamgray1753 well as He said, we dont know what happened to the new gamora so sehe might as well be gone and Guardians 3 could be about quill trying to get the Real gamora back (Adam Warlock maybe?)
So then whu couldn't they do the same with Black widow?
6:24 but also remember that mcu time travel is based on multivers theory (like Dragon ball ) meaning if they took a black widow from the past that time line they took her from wouldn't have a black widow any more
But in the movie is not what they said is it??? The Ancian said that if u remove one stone it will create another reality, so they have to return the stone to the same time when they took it... And Banner said that U CAN´T CHANGE THE PAST... And they didn´t go to another reality/time line (if it was said it would make sense, since Thanos from 2014 died in 2023. But it wasn´t the case, is it?), they went back IN TIME...
@@Itagibalves actualy he was right. its using multivwese theory, so basicly when go back u actualy go to another universe, they were trying to take the stones there use it to beat thanos and reserect everyone. and give them back
Smh changing the past won't change your future it will just create a new timeline. hulk even says that killing baby thanos won't change their future it would only create a new universe where thanos never lived
Even if they did take black widow from the past they wouldn't have to worry because they wouldn't be in the universe without blackwidow, it would be a different one
@@tiurmacantik3070 no it's still the same universe untill you change something then at the point that something was changed, it will create a different universe where that change actually changed something
Could be the a 🐀 was the original master of the ninja turtle?
@@dwikiereza8725 r/woooosh
Or master shifu??
Reza ら七みouこanき actually originally the ninja turtles were made from the same chemical spill as daredevil
Dont be absurd. It is the rat from TMNT
"Literally isn't anything else worth talking about in the world of entertainment..."
How many people will miss this bit of sarcasm?
But nebula used it to get back herself. The ship came after.
The stones have already served their purpose in HISTORY, they were meant to be destroyed by Thanos in the timeline
Captain : " ouh red skull we meet again ..... btw here you go * give the soul stone * "
Red skull : 🤔🤨
Black widow : *ARE U SERIOUS AM I A JOKE TO YOU*
Red Skull to Black Widow: Ssshh...you are my bride now.
Red Skull: Cap will you marry us and we call it even...
freshly donut Wait, I thought red skull could leave after someone sacrificed themselves. So is red skull still stuck there forever?
Oh he'd leave if it were Hawkeye being sacrificed. But be it Gamora and Black Widow on seperate timelines.
He just waitin for the fun time...
😁😂😃
he did deal with Red skull soul for soul stone . Black widow is back . 😂
*Number 3*
Loki escaped with the Space Stone, but he‘s still in 2012... Thats why it doesn‘t matter that he escaped cause this actually didn’t happen. Tony & Bruce both explained how time travel works.
Then why even show this scene if it has no reason... it cant be just to have loki on screen one more time... can it? 🤔
Red Skull to Cap: ' What you have brought me today is worth....one quarter portion.'
Thanos used Nebula's Pym Particle and Maw is a space wizard, so could have easily figured time travel out.
They had years to figure it out. Just because Nebula brought Thanos to the current timeline doesn't mean they left their timeline moments after capturing good Nebula.
I agree. Maw should have figured out how it works. Besides they have the 2019 nebula’s memory, piece them out. Reverse engineer Stark’s devices the good nebula brought with her in 2014 and voila. Time travel bitches. That doesn’t need explanations. Hehe
@@paoloricardobenedicto654 2023 nebula not 2019
Raymart Maravillas 2019 or 2023 you still get my point.
@@paoloricardobenedicto654 Just avoid the spread of wrong info😊
Cap couldve used the time stone in the same way Strange used it on the apple encompassing it within a time sphere and turning back the dial on just the other stones therefore fixing the power stone and space stone containers. Same with Jane Foster. Time stone can literally fix most of these questions and as they said in the end of the film, cap will be gone 5 seconds their time but he'll have all the time in the world he needs, which would include learning how to use the stone. As far as Thanos and the ship he clearly got the rest of Nebulas pym particles and used them on the ship thus making the ship and everyone inside TINY enough for quantum travel. The GPS navigator isnt needed bc hes not being tracked and the suit it just to keep quantum radiation from constantly bombarding their bodies like how it was doing to Hank Pym in Antman and the Wasp. Thanos was going thru to a one way trip, the Avengers were time hopping back and forth thus needed more protection. Sony sources according to IGN said Peter's classmates were snapped along w him. Also it's not half of his classmates, could be all of his classmates and it would still be 50% of life.
How did Nebula get back if she gave Thanos her pym particles?
Incorrect because you aren’t just able to use the stones with your hand. You have to be a sorcerer and have it contained in some thing to use, also if he did that he would rupture the entire timeline again just like the main plot of the movie
@@DeltaHouseStudios she was on thanos ship when he brought it thru. Bringing himself, 2023 Nebula and 2014 Nebula and Gamora.
@@techycheese6383 xavier brown 1. You missed the part about the containers in my comment. I already solved that problem 2. You dont have to be a sorcerer, thanos clearly isnt a sorcerer and was able to use the time stone. Also given the logic of the movie the timeline should've already ruptured BEFORE the movie even started bc thanos destroyed the stones. The ancient one said all 6 stones make up the flow of time and removing them from their timeline would be a catastrophic to the time stream yet 5 years goes by with the stones destroyed thus the movie breaking it's own explained logic.
Bale Sahagun thanos has great and strong power even without the infinity stones that’s why he was able to hold the stones plus he has the reality stone wich allows him to do what he wants even revive any one
Also if you want proof thanos is strong he did the snap and he didn’t die unlike iron man with his strongest suit
The Spider-Man Far From Home timeline makes sense because all of the kids (if not just the main ones) were snapped. When Hulk brought them back, Spidey was the same age because Hulk restored everything to what it was 5 years ago, in a post 5 year landscape. So all the kids came back the same age and they’re still in High School.
7:01 did you forget that Nebula(2014) took the time bracelet or something and the Pym particles from Nebula (endgame) then gave the Pym particles to Thanos.
Raja Ashakir yea, this is just a bad debunk video
Thanos did get Pym particles from Nebula, you just didn’t pay attention to the exchange.
The Gamora now isn't the same Gamora, she's from a different timeline
Yes she's from the past and no she's definitely the same Gamora
She’s from another dimension basically and not just another timeline
She is the same gammora from the past. Only the soul stone she is sacrificed for is already claimed. So shez Good
@@dedecusfaas747 nope you can't change the past, so the Gamora sacrificed in the main timeline is still dead
@@cirelancaster ikr. Still sad the REAL Gamora that Quill know and love is actually dead!
Thanos said he reduced them to atoms so technically not destroyed in the sense if they are gone? 🤷🏾♂️
You're an idiot
Dude, nothing gets actually destroyed ever, but turns into something else. You can't destroy matter, it always become something else.
@@caioaugusto2282 Better inform everyone that if we blow you to smithereens a colossal idiot will still exist in the form of energy
He said, gone, reduced to atoms. He said GONE
You forgot about the most powerful stone of all: The Plot Convenience Stone.
The MacGuffin Stone. The Contrivance Stone. The Deus Ex Petra.
Bucky did know , he just knew cap would do it threw friendship
Technically they could bring a past Black Widow into 2023, but I think emotionally it would be too painful to do something like that. Also, they would be creating a timeline that no longer has Black Widow and that could be disastrous for the people in it. Obviously there's a timeline now that doesn't have Gamora in it, but the Avengers didn't do that on purpose. So it's really a matter of them having good enough judgment to know bringing back a past Black Widow is a bad idea.
Ya exactly, for them to bring back Black Widow via time travel, they'd just be killing her in another universe. And as cap says, "We don't trade lives"
I mean they could literally grab the Widow right before she dies so she’s basically the same
Why Nebula is not dead when she kills her younger self?
Jose Luis Aguirre Revuelta The Nebula that died was from another dimension not the past so to speak
So what I thought. Thanos won and lost too. Two realities (at least). We saw the cat alive and dead.
cap from the sideline seems plausible since he knows it will playbthat way.
9:00 New timelines: Loki with the Tesseract, 2014 Universe without Thanos / Gamora / Nebula among others.
And Dr. Strange (2023) without Tmestone.
I made a video on this check it out (it clears up all the confusion on how cap sits on the bench at the end
The timeline we see throughout the movie is exactly like the origanal timeline except cap lives undercover with Peggy carter so he can sit on the bench at the end
Everyone's going based on what Bruce said before Thanos went forward in time. As bruce said to the sourcerer supreme. If they return the stones at the precise moment they were taken it won't create alternate timelines however because all that stuff happened with Loki, Thanos and cap those specific instances create their own alternate timeline. A timeline where Loki escapes the battle of New York. A timeline where Thanos vanishes from existence. And a timeline where Cap stayed with Peggy. All those alternate timeline are their own separate universes. They don't all exist in one alternate universe together.
@@kimchan382 Oh yeah totaly. But that's the "main" timeline.
I believe the Avengers caused time line errors in Endgame, especially with Captain America staying in the past and Ironman losing the tesseract to Loki who escaped. I think these are intentional plot holes for the future and gives me vibes for a specific future villian which can connect Captain Marvel to future films regarding the kree and skrull war/secret invasion. That villian could be..............
Kang The Conqueror
Not to mention Thanos jumping to the future... so, he isn't in their past. Time travel causes all sorts of continuity issues.
Thanos saw their data and the method of manufacturing of the quantum travel machine through the eyes of Nebula...
Why didnt dr strange bring ironman back to life like thanos did with vision using the time gem duuhh
Gertis Mangkas because Robert Downey jr hasn’t signed another deal
Because Tony's snap would be undone.
Tony snap would be undone and will set it back right at the point where thanos grabbed the guanlet if that happens he will erase all life and there will be no third chance.
He died with the snap, turning back time would undo said snap.
There's a whole bunch of alternate timelines that were created by this movie:
1. Alternate timeline where Loki took the Tesseract and teleported away during the Battle of New York
2. A timeline where Thanos, Nebula, Gamora, and his entire army disappeared at the beginning of Guardians of the Galaxy 1
3. A timeline where Cap and Peggy lived out their lives together even after he went in the ice (cause he traveled back in time to be with her)
And we know that they are creating alternate timelines because that's what the Ancient One said... that when you disrupt what should have happened a new alternate timeline branches off with those changes but the original timeline stays unaffected.
I like the theory that the reality where cap and Peggy live out their lives isn't an alternate reality. When Cap visits her in the hospital she knows eventually he'll travel back to be with her. She just can't tell him, she has to let it unfold the way it goes.
3rd timeline is probably main timeline if you consider that this was Steve was supposed to to from the beginning. It is a timeloop.
Cap being thawed in the first place never made sense to me. He wasn’t cryogenic frozen like Bucky, he would simply have died.
In the comics they say it worked for him because of the super soldier serum. But yes, you are right. In the real world frozen animals of any kind are just dead even if flash frozen. They are however safe to eat for a long time.
@@thejimbruce no. In the real world there are multiple animals that return back to life after being frozen
Plot twist : this was all Tony’s dream
@Tyler Rich lol
BRO you're wondering why Captain America was able to return the Stones it's because he had mjolnir.
Q#10- No character in the MCU is infallible nor omniscience.The Ancient One's arguments with Banner proves that results of certain actions can't be determined with science or magic alone. Thanos' actions at the garden was an act of certainty in which in itself is not true; only thing that is permanent is change. Plus there's also the first law of thermodynamics; the stones themselves is a housing for a certain type of energy, even Banner deducted that most of it is gamma.
Q#9- "A soul for a soul", the answer is in the question; drop of the soul stone in exchange for what was sacrificed for it. May include include plot details for Black Widow movie if you think about it.
Q#8- If they knew how to extract the stones in the first place, obviously they knew how put it back. Its just a matter of movies before we see how exactly Cap did it.
Q#7- EG Gamora' final scene in the Endgame was the all-girl-A-Force-hinting group shot while protecting Spider-man and the gauntlet. Tony's snap targeted Thanos' and his allies thus sparing EG Gamora from the decimation.
Q#6- IW Gamora is gone and can't be undone since the IW Mind Stone was destroyed by Thanos along in the garden with other stones while EG Gamora is from a parallel timeline where she was never sacrificed and not yet part of the GotG. Travelling back and getting BW from another timeline for her to appear in the EG timeline can't be done "yet" because EG Thanos got there first and blew up the quantum tunnel along with the HQ.
Q#5- "You are only a genius here on Earth" Rocket banter with Tony suggest that there also geniuses besides him, like Thanos and Ebony Maw who can easily reverse engineer Pym particles and quantum devices since they got one from GotG Nebula.
Q#4- IW snap is random; even we don't know the identity of everyone who was spared or decimated, same goes for Spider-man's classmates. Wait till June to find out.
Q#3- No, and it will not be the last one. They can pull out anyone from their own timeline when needed and create another parallel branch timeline if not corrected.
Q#2- Bucky knows Steve; childhood friends, brothers-at-arms and co-avengers, if anything the only thing Bucky doesn't know about Steve is the timeline where he choose to remain with Peggy. The "stupid" things Steve took with him bleeds into the next question.
Q#1- Both theories happened but parallel to each other; Steve returning into the 70's not 40's creating a parallel timeline where he prepared and counter-acted dire situations which also explains why he travelled back as old Steve into the main MCU timeline, gave the shield to Sam, foreseeing future events.
(Civil War,"If I see a situation pointing south I can't ignore it")
(AoU; "Every time anyone tries to win a war before it started, innocent people die")
Tiberius Grey the most unanswered question is why they dont just bring tony and nat from the past to the present and replace the dead one? Yes it can happen, same case like thanos and gamora. Of course it will not change the timeline, because quantum realm doesn't do grandfather paradox, it works like if you go back to past and kill baby thanos, it will never change anything in the future, it only creates alternate reality where the snap never done, but it not affect the main reality (endgame reality). It also means everything that happened cant be undo.
So basically, they can bring tony and nat from past. "What if tony from past, don't want it?" Oo man, of course he will, tony has always a dream where he can married with potts and have a child, like in IW, when he's dreaming about having a baby and named it morgan, and then he really do it. So tony from past will come to future for his wife and kid. Same like nat loves banner, she also will come to future.
Idk maybe this is plothole, but the only answer that i know is, that the contract is finish, so they just killed tony. Russo never answered this question. Is there anyone can answered my question?
Btw, sorry if my english is bad, i hope you guys understand.
@@ronaldwijaya6706 past Tony is still not Tony.going through through all dead Tony's experiences makes Tony, Tony. Even past Tony is an imposter to dead Tony.
@@ronaldwijaya6706 Neither Tony nor Nat would want to leave their timeline to join our's because they would be leaving their actual family and friends behind to join look-a-like strangers from a different reality, while possibly dooming their reality, family and friends.
I solved all of these.
Comic logic and comic physics and basically... its comics.
Now say that under a DC film video and you would be attacked lol.
gohanson27 - cause dc movies forget about the fact that they are comics
@@ryangriffiths5179 interesting. People are still crying about Superman snapping Zod's neck and Batman killing. Both happened in the comics.
v 6 no
1) If returning all the stones reset the timeline to the way it was, why would Cap interfere? He knows how it will play out and yes there is the “I need to get into the fight” speech from Civil War but 2023 Cap, after losing as much as he did, isn’t as eager to “get into the fight”.
Plus, he's like 90 years old.
Agreed! Besides. Why interfere when future cap already knows the present outcome doesnt require his assistance. His stubbornness to do what he knows is right always trumps everything. And he knew whats right is to stay back and let it happen as it did when he lived through it.
#5, Nebula gave Thanos pym particles and the bracelet. Between Thanos and his team I am sure they could figure out how this stuff works and recreate it. Like Rocket says to Tony, "You're only smart on Earth".
She does then use them to get to 2023. Maybe they have time to copy them. It was 2014 Thanos? I guess which Thanos does Nebula bring into the present could be an older Thanos who has time to make everything needed.
But my point was Nebula does return to the present with them.
To answer some of these question:
1, How did the fabric of space-time continue after stones were destroyed?
-Thanos found away to preserve the continuum of space and time without the stones. He is “cursed with....KNOWLEDGE!”
2, how he gets to Vormir?
-No idea. Probably fly to Asgard with the hammer. Olden: “whoever worthy possesses the power of Thor.” Cap is Thor now.
3, how did cap made containers for the stones?
-once you are on Asgard, they make those things.
4, why you can’t bring back widow from another timeline?
-you can. But people in that timeline will be missing a widow. Not ethical. Gamora’s here because she chose to follow her dad to travel here. She can choose to go back. Not right to kidnap people from other realities.
5, how did Thanos figure out time travel?
-first, he is the one cursed with KNOWLEDGE! Second, for Thanos he can take years to reverse engineer the time travel device, and still land in the exact moment nebula opens the portal. He might have spent a century to make that time machine, and it won’t make a difference for people in 2023, since 2023 is the destination.
6, Cap went back to a different reality, returned all the stones. Find a way to jump to the main timeline on the bench, instead of the machine. He then changed his name to Joe Biden. And now there he is.
Also if destroying an infinity stone would destroy creation then why did reality not end when scarlet witch destroyed the mind stone in infinity war.
This video doesn't make sense don't worry, he just doesn't understand but u do
It was broken into extremely tiny pieces but still existed. That's why when thanos turned back time, the debris came back to reform. Only if they are completely removed say not even the atoms of those stones remain can reality suffer.
Ryan Griffiths nothing is ever destroyed in this universe, it just exist at subatomic level but no one can use it
7:33 You missed that the ship expanded from a shrunk form before the time travel, so no suit needed.
Yes because ant Man did say that you got be really tiny small to travel through quantum realm
There was a shot of "old" Nebula handing over "new" Nebula's one remaining dose of Pym particles to Thanos, so that at least covers the "how the ship got small" issue.
@@schnebbs but then how did she get back without it?
Gamora came back bc she is from an alternate timeline
But they could’ve just gone back in time after beating thanos and bring her to the future
@@bryant7369 It would've created a parallel timeline where Thanos never got the soul stone and Gamora was taken.
Maybe there's something bad with parallel timelines or something that part I'm not sure.
And when ironman clicked he got rid of everyone from the past who shouldnt be there gamora included the better question is how is nebula still alive since her past self was killed
@@jasonewing8693 her alternative past self died. The other Nebula was so fair the timeline that our Nebula went into I think they just kill off one universe in the multiverse
@@jasonewing8693 smh your dumb, because it doesn't change their timeline it just creates a new one so when nebula killed her past self it doesn't kill her it just makes a separate universe timeline where nebula died in 2014
My theory for #1 is that as long as the stones exist, reality can flow. So when scarlet witch and thanos destroy the stones, they still exist but not in one piece. Thanos says that he “reduced them to atoms”But if a stone is taken from a different time line, then that stone won’t exist at all in that time line.