Not only that it's meant to be a propaganda piece for Sparta and against Persia since Dilios is the narrator of the story so of course he would portray their enemies as evil and inhuman.
If you want to find out how Persia was one of the greatest empires in human history, I suggest that you read 'The Histories' by the Greek writer Herodotus. In a time where being a stranger in a strange town could get you killed, Herodotus travelled the known world doing something even more lethal: asking questions. True, he is a bit gullible in places, but most of his information has been found to be the truth. The events featured in '300', weren't that far in the past when Herodotus made his enquiries. And no, there are no mentions of Orc like mutant Persians. They are as human as everyone else.
One real life person who's reputation was badly damaged by a movie was Henry Hook VC, portrayed in the movie 'Zulu' as a malingering drunkard when in fact he was exactly the opposite, he was an exemplary soldier and a teetotaller, in fact he was a lay preacher, his portrayal in the movie was considered so offensive by his family that his daughters who had been invited to the premier actually walked out mid way through the movie.
I came here to say exactly this. How can you do a list like this and not do Zulu? I have to say, this was probably a case of throwing a dart at the list of names for which one would be the drunken bad soldier for their story and just by sheer bad luck landing on the morally upright guy who doesn't even drink. (Oh, and it's "whose" not "who's" for the possessive.)
Pvt Hook suffered from the Director deciding to add some Character Drama on top of the combat situation. I suspect he was chosen because of his name plus the fact that he "overcame his bad ways and earned a VC". I always felt sorry for the way he was portrayed. While I really do enjoy the movie, there were several issues with it. Most notably Pvt Hook, but also the two commanders were actually friends and had served together for some time - there was no drama between them.
The BBC. Did a much better job of the life of Alan Turing. In the 1996 called Breaking the code. It doesn’t hold back and Derik Jacobi is perfect casting
I personally think Richard Jewell life ruined by Kathy scruggs. In my opinion the man did his job and because she ran with a story and a narrative it destroyed his life. The man saved countless people with no one else would listen to him. And she decided to run the story that he was a person of interest even though the FBI had already ruled him out long before she ran with the narrative. Now her character bastardization of her character in the movie. That's one thing. But let's acknowledge she destroyed his reputation and career because she wanted the story. And never even apologized.
I think the bigger problem is playing up the stereotype of Women using their sexuality to get ahead unfairly. There were lots of people who ruined Jewell's life and reputation (and of people like him.) Especially the Law enforcement involved who leaked irresponsibly based on speculation and stereotype (they mocked Jewell as a wannabe do-gooder). It did a lot of incidental damage to woman reporters generally.
Another movie that really should've been on this list was "Patch Adams". Dr. Hunter Adams was already having trouble with being taken seriously by the medical community due to his unorthodox approaches to medicine, but Robin Williams' depiction of him in the movie made the problems far worse. The movie made Dr. Adams look like an unstable joke.
The movie made a nominal donation to his foundation as an apology. A paltry amount considering how much the movie grossed. And money cannot repair a good man's name.
One thing I found interesting after the whole controversy over Titanic (1997) erupted was that the 1996 miniseries Titanic (with Catherine Zeta Jones) also depicted Mr. Murdock as shooting someone and then shooting himself in the head. Of course, few people saw that one, so it probably didn't bother the family as much, but it's funny that Cameron's film basically copied an unnecessarily controversial plot point from a much lesser previous film.
At least 2 survivors reported this incident. The problem is neither named Murdoch, and other officers went down with the ship. (Also, Cameron copied a lot of earlier movies!)
Its not just the gunshot. Theres also the concept that he took a bribe during the sinking to load men into the boats. Or that he would take his own life. By all accounts, Murdoch was an efficent and dilligent crewman during the sinking and likely either froze or drowned like many others.
The fact the Scruggs died of a drug overdose makes it even murkier for her own story. I’d say the fact that they left that out of the movie indicates a level of respect for her. Besides, trading sex for information says more about her source than it does about her.
That didn't happen though. It's a lie that Eastwood made up to serve his right wing agenda of portraying media as corrupt, just as he made up lies in "Sully" to serve his right wing agenda of portraying government agencies as corrupt and incompetent and as he made up lies in "American Sniper" to serve his right wing agenda of hero worshipping violent soldier men and vigilantes.
It should say more about her sources, but which have you heard more. ‘He’s a disgrace he only helps/employs/casts women who sleep with him’ or ‘she’s a disgrace, she got where she did by sleeping her way there.’
Here's one. Astronaut Gus Grissom in "The Right Stuff." That movie is one of my favorites of all time but I know so much about the real life Mercury space program that I've learned all the false details. Gus Grissom was portrayed by Fred Ward as a crude foul mouthed, hothead who screwed up his spaceflight. Those who knew him have said he wasn't like that at all. He was cordial, respectful and rarely used harsh language. On the job he was a consummate professional and considered the best in-flight problem solver of the original seven. The movie failed to resolve accurately the loss of his capsule after splashdown from a faulty explosive mechanism on the hatch. The movie blamed Grissom, implying that he panicked and blew the hatch prematurely. But what wasn't shown was that when the pilot pressed the button, it would recoil causing the hand to smack the control panel and leave a tell-tale bruise. When he returned to the Cape, Wally Schirra asked Gus to show him his hand and when he saw no bruise realized Gus hadn't hit the button. But the inquiry board said those hatches had been thoroughly tested and not one had ever blown.
Gordo Cooper wasn't portrayed favourably either. John Glen ran for President. He remarked something to the effect that if Reagan could become president in spite of the Bonzo movies, Glen could despite The Right Stuff.
@@brunozeigerts6379 I never thought Gordo Cooper was portrayed badly. In fact, they cleaned up his character a bit in the movie. When Trudy left him to go to her parents in San Diego, it wasn't from the strain of him being in such a dangerous occupation. In real life, she'd left him because he'd been cheating on her with fighter jock groupies. The movie only touched on that a little at the start when the girl at the bar tries to start a conversation with Yeager just as he's heading out to chase Glennis on horseback. In his book, Yeager commented how Pancho Barnes rarely had an empty cabin because of the girls renting them out when they bedded one of the pilots.
Well, you don't expect NASA to admit the hatch might blow off by itself at any moment, do you? They would be admitting the hatch might go off in orbit, dooming the astronaut. That would have ended Mercury and the space program. Grissom took the inference to preserve the program. The reality of Grissom's abilities seems clear to me since he was tapped to lead off Gemini, and would have led off Apollo had NASA not been reckless with pure ixygen when it was not needed. You don't have a bad PR source and panicky pilot keep going up, especially on the first flight. Still, I don't think Grissom got "ruined" by the allegations, he kept his flight status and obviously the regard if his colleagues.
Lightoller, on the other hand, was portrayed fairly accurately: stubbornly sticking to the letter of how he interpreted the “women and children first” instructions and not prioritizing filling lifeboats because he didn’t know they had been adequately tested for carrying weight in their davits during Titanic’s construction (only about 1/4 of those who survived were on lifeboats he oversaw). That said, he was even worse than he was shown in the film: he openly showed contempt for civilian authority during both inquiries into the sinking and tried to deny the fact that Titanic had indeed received plenty of ice warnings leading up to the sinking.
Lightoller was defensive at the Titanic hearings, but he had to save his reputation and job, anybody would be defensive. (Lookout Fred Fleet was worse.) Eyewitnesses did say he was calm the night the ship sank, he is too panicky in the movie. And both officers Lightoller and Murdoch planned to fill the lifeboats, (Lightoller sent 7 men below to open a door to add more women and children.) But the lifeboats famously pulled away and their plan fizzled. Read his biography someday, whatever else you think of this guy, Lightoller had an epic life.
12:09 I always felt that William Murdoch just panicked (understandably) and when he realised what he’d done he shot himself out of shame and grief, NOT cowardice 🤷♀️
@@InternetDarkLord Either way I also agree with the poster above. The movie version was neither a coward nor a dishonorable man. Cameron could have left this reported act out completely or assigned it to another unconfirmed officer. The former would have avoided offending any descendants or family members.
If you haven't already, I would love to see you do a companion video about characters who were much more positively depicted on screen than their real-life counterparts deserved. That would include Captain Phillips, John Nash (A Beautiful Mind), Ruth Handler (Barbie), and Leigh Anne Tuohy (The Blind Side). Think it over!
What about Zulu? Otto Witt was presented like religious fanatic but in real life he just informed British troops about Zulu warriors. Or pvt Henry Hook who was model solder but presented as alcololic, criminal and rogue.
The people of Dumfries and Galloway will not forgive Mr Cameron for defaming William Murdoch's reputation, he is not welcome in the area (especially his home-town of Dalbeattie) anymore. This was a MAJOR local scandal at the time. A few thousand quid is nothing.
Max Baer was wrongly portrayed in Cinderella Man. Max was lethal in the ring, but outside the ring, he was a warm and caring man. Good job exposing the truth.
There's a lot of nuance to Howard's depiction of Baer Sr. The real Max Baer was traumatized by the death of his opponent and would clown around in the ring and be more hesitant to engage in toe to toe. Howard subtly depicts that in the movie, though he made Baer more crass than he actually was.
Depends on who you believe. Considering they never actually adopted Michael Oher but continually said they did in a manner that they knew would be taken literally it kind of brings all their behavior into question.
I liked how "Saving Mr. Banks" portrayed PL Travers as an arrogant shrew and Walt Disney as pushy and obnoxious. I also liked how "The Founder" portrayed Ray Kroc as fiercely motivated but also a ruthless asshole. Same director, come to think of it.
I heard that Saving Mr. Banks actually softened Travers who was actually a much more awful and bitter person in real life. :O It reminded me of when I heard that Lawrence Fishbourne's dastardly portrayal of Ike Turner was commented on by people that knew the man who said it humanized him. Oy Vey.
I didn't know anything about Michael Orr before watching the Blind Side but as I watched it I was uncomfortable with how they made him seem slow. To me it portrayed the white people as making him more like a trained puppy instead of him having any talent. I was surprised Sandra Bullock was ok with how it came across.
As much as I like SB as an actress I don't think she spoke with MO before , during or after the movie was made. Only to the person she was portraying. I couldn't finish the film. It made it seem as MO didn't really have talent in the sport until that family "gave" it to him. Making one younger seem smarter than MO. It was sad I wonder if the family ever said TY to all the money they made while destroying a person character.
I have a feeling mark zucherberg is a fairly accurate portrayal. 🤷♀️ As for Mr Murdoch (Titanic), I’ve NEVER thought of him as a murderer or a coward. I saw him as a good man dealing with extraordinary circumstances and doing his best. Shooting at the passengers whose panic was going to get a lot of people killed, was extreme, but it all happened in a matter of seconds and was just tragic all the way around.
@@Braddicusfinch The problem with that thought is that there is no "right". There is no justice, no way to perfectly balance the scales after a wrong has been done. Either someone suffers too much or not enough. Sometimes the scales tip one way, sometimes the other. Once something has been broken, it can never be whole in the way it was before which would be the only true justice.
I would add Braveheart to this list as well, for their full blown character assassination of Andrew de Moray, who was in-fact a great asset to the independence fight rather than traitor. Having been part of it well before Wallace ever turned up and never having betrayed the great trust he had with Wallace, the two were somewhat of a dynamic duo. Saying this as someone who comes from the same village in Scotland as de Moray, we are very proud of him as a local historical figure and Braveheart may as well be banned in my home town because of how they treated him.
They did not need to portray Kathy Scruggs the way they did in the film. All they needed to do was to just show her as she really was to show how much of a horrible human being she truly was. She never cared about facts. She only cared about getting a story. If she ruined lives, didn't matter to her.
But a reporter who worked with her did mention that she hinted that she slept with an fbi guy. Might have been joking but for people to be an uproar and act like she was a beacon of light, no. She still ruined someone life and likely drove him into an early grave. So no sympathy from me.
@@welcometothemovies9157thank you. i distinctly recall one of her colleagues saying that. She destroyed the reputation of a man who should have been hailed as a hero. Screw her and her legacy
Don't forget Coach Dan Devine in "Rudy". He was portrayed as the villain in the movie, when he was the hero in real life. He didn't oppose Rudy's dressing with the team, he actually encouraged it.
I accept the Imitation Games flawed portrayal of Dennison but we have to admit, Charles Dance can play an all time great villain! Dare I say his Tywin Lannister is actually so good it’s in league with Darth Vader? Mark Strong can play a damned good villain too!!!
300 is based off a graphic novel, if you want a more historically accurate depiction of war between Greece and Persia watch Alexander, though it is considerably less entertaining.
The portrayal of Ayman Abu Aita as a "real terrorist " in Brüno landed him real life death threats. He's a Palestinian christian shopkeeper and member of Fatah.
a predecessor to TITANIC, A NIGHT TO REMEMBER, painted Second Officer Lightoller as the hero, when he killed numerous people by default when he sent away lifeboats with up to a third of places unoccupied.
I had to give a small history lesson when my mom and her friends were talking about Zack Snyder's 300. They loved the abs AND also believed this was historically accurate. So far as admiring how some middle eastern and Hindu men are gigantic and look like demigods.😂😂🤣🤣
I saw Titanic in the theater 3 times. I never thought Murdock was a coward or a bad guy. I always thought he was petrified to the point of breaking and his shooting the passengers and then ultimately himself was the result of that break. A coward? No. But a frightened person on the brink of imminent icy death? 100%
My ex-roommate researched John Merrick in preparation for portraying Dr. Treves in the play. He told me that it was really Carr-Gomm, Sir John Gielgud's character, who went to the mat for Merrick, not Treves.
As for favorite Costner film, I can't' really think of one of his films I just like to watch repeatedly. He's always a solid performer, but his movies just aren't like that. I guess ironically, I'd have to say Highwaymen as I really did like the fact that it depicted Bonnie and Clyde like a couple of petty, nasty murderous thugs like they really were instead of some folk heroes. It made that ambush overkill really feel well earned. I also really liked the gun shop scene. Kind of an earlier (chronologically) version of the scene in The Terminator.
I actually don't have much time for Kevin Costner. He has an annoying drawl, he comes across as pretentious and I haven't loved any of the films he has been in. The biggest thing is the lie he continually spun, where he said that there was going to be a "Bodyguard 2", where his character from the first movie was going to protect a character played by- wait for it- Princess Diana. Princess Diana, who had never acted before, was apparently going to star in the sequel. Scenes were to include a shower sex scene between her and Costner. Costner said that the ONLY reason that Diana didn't do it was because she was killed in the Paris car crash soon after. Costner spins this story, again and again, yet not one other person has ever verified it. Aside from the fact Diana couldn't act, even if she wanted to stick it to the Royal Family by doing a movie and having a sex scene in it, she wouldn't have done it anyway, because she was very protective of her image to her boys, William and Harry. The fact that Costner keeps repeating this story, when Diana is not here to deny it, speaks volumes about his character.
I mean The Imitation Game screwed over Alan Turing more than just ignoring his sexuality. I know Cumberbatch thinks he knows what autism is because he met autistic kids when preparing to play Frankenstein’s creature, but what he did to Turing’s character was awful, nothing like the way he’s described by people who know him and nothing like the way autistic adults who mask, because they have to behave. My favourite review of The Imitation Game’s accuracy said that they were right there was a man called Alan Turing and WW2 happened, that was about it.
Great so you basically took the video you published 3 days ago "10 Movie Biopics That Lied To Your Face" and took 50% of its content to make this one? How original.
The one that pisses me off is Sully. Clint Eastwood lied about the NTSB investigation, and the findings and attitude of lead investigator Robert Benzon. In the film, the NTSB claimed that simulator testing showed the NTSB was right in criticizing Sully's decision...when in reality they agreed Sully made the right choice, and their testing confirmed that. Eastwood made up the antagonism and short-sightedness of Robert Benzon to turn him and the NTSB into the villain. In a fictional story that's fine, but not in one about real people.
Forgot the Judge that switched Jury’s in The Untouchables Movie 1987. It said he did it because he was on the take and forced by Eliot Ness. He was a hero that did it for Justice in real life.
Were these documentaries, I could understand the high dudgeon. But they are fictional versions of history, obviously warped for entertainment value and time constraints. On the other hand, producers might be wise to choose fictitious IDs for their villainous characters if the portrayals stray from verifiable fact.
Its hard to believe that Zuckerburgs portrayal in the social network ruined his reputation, when virtually every real life appearance hes ever made comes off as far worse. Personally, id argue, that Eisenbergs version makes him a more human and relateable person than he actually is
I'm shocked WokeCulture led off this piece by defending a reporter. A reporter who, by the way, lied about a story and ruined a man's life and wouldn't back down when called out on it. I'm sure they referenced that Atlanta Magazine piece where they, hilariously, tell how she beat the cops to a murder scene and breaks into the house by crawling through a back window and, get this, the COPS LOVED AND RESPECTED HER FOR IT! No. No, they didn't. If that had happened on my scene she would have been in handcuffs for burglary and obstruction. This is just another episode of the media holding itself in some self-reverential light. WokeCulture can't have journalism or the media shown to be what it actually is - the propaganda arm of the progressive Left.
Glad you included Max Baer. For the next list like this, please include Dan Devine in "Rudy". In reality it was Devine's idea to dress Rudy for that game and all that stuff about players refusing to play if Rudy doesn't is pure embellishment that made Devine look like a jerk.
This proves that some people just take things way too seriously. Ive seen most of these and never once did I think they were entirely historically accurate, nor did it change my opinions of any of the people in that. Mostly because I didnt care, but also because I understood it was just a movie. The only instance where I think I mildly cared was the Michael Jackson/Jackson 5 biopic movie that I saw when I was a kid, and even then I didnt care enough that I had their dad living rent free in my head.
Michael Oher has some points, but he is also wrong. The movie did not hurt his career at all. He had 8 years, which is *way* over the 3-4 year average for an NFL o-line pkayer. Especially left tackle, the spot requiring the most agility. A left tackle who starts to lose a step as his hips and knees age has a very limited shelf life unless he manages to transition to the right side. He had an exceptional career, but pro sports careers are rarely long ones, especially for the big linemen.
Including Oher in this is pretty questionable, given that the nature of his complaints revolve around a not-atypical-for-a-pro-athlete inflated view of his playing level. He was a high draft pick and had a rock solid career, but he never took the star turn his upside suggested he could have. He never got a huge contract after his rookie deal ended, and would be far from the first NFL player to think he deserved a star deal that he didn't receive (and thus has gone looking for blame). There has been some funny stuff between him and the family that helped him recently too, and while of course a film isn't going to be totally accurate I think complaints in his case are inflated.
Say what you want about "300", I did learn a historical fact from this movie; that being, Spartans seemed to keep their bodies waxed and oiled. Or was that just in keeping with the theme of this homoerotic extravaganza?
So Kathy Scruggs had done to her what she did to Richard Jewell, except Scruggs was dead and didn't have to actually live it. Don't feel sorry for her one bit. Her article was the primary reason Jewell's life became a living hell and she never apologized for it. Also the fact she died of a drug overdose points to the fact she wasn't exactly the angel people kept claiming she was after the movie came out.
The distorted view in the Elephant Man of the showman was only one instance of a consistent class bias in Lynch's film. The upper and middle classes are typically portrayed as sensitive and caring, while the poorer characters are typified as brutish. The howling mob that pursues Merrick on his return to Liverpool Street staion is utterly imaginary. Merrick was not kidnapped from the care of surgeon Frederick Treves during their first contact. He was simply examined by Treves as a curiosity and sent on his way. And it was Treves who could not even get his "patient's" name right; it was Treves who kept calling him called him John, a name he never went🎉 by. Don't both with Treves' self-serving and inaccurate memoir shown in the video. Instead, the most detailed, impartial and historically accurate book is "The True History of the Elephant Man" by Michael Howell and Peter Ford.
LOL, I'm so happy they brought that quip to life in Better Call Saul. They did such a good job tying up all of the threads. Saul gets kidnapped by Heisenberg and Jesse and says "It was Ignacio! Did Lallo send you" back in his first episode on Breaking Bad. Took a whole series to tie that one up.
Well it's dumb to think that struggling in school is an indication of person's intelligence so, nope, not the movies fault as apparently those people went into it stupid.
Filmmakers have always taken artistic license with stories based on historical events and people. The real problem is that film watchers see the phrase, "based on a true story" and then go on to believe the movie is mostly true. With "Titanic," after the movie came out it became a thing for superfans to visit the real life cemeteries where bodies were interred. By sheer coincidence there was a Titanic victim whose headstone in Newfoundland reads "J. Dawson." Naturally the fans think that's the guy who Leonardo DiCaprio's character was based on.
The fact is, real life is boring, so you have to "jazz" up someone's image. If these movies were really true, we would see these characters eating breakfast or going to the toilet.
Whato all, I'm sorry I cannot give this video a like as, for some strange reason, the narration has background music. This is annoying and deflects from the, otherwise, entertaining content.
Apart from the terrible thing Titanic did, what I also hate about it is the fact that James Cameron thought, 'Oh the sinking of Titanic isn't dramatic enough, so I'm going to make up two fictional people (yes there were people called Jack and Rose on the ship but not those people), have them fall in love and one of them die so that the audience will feel so terribly sad about it. I find it so distasteful.
I feel two ways about this. People have the right to create historical fiction like War and Peace or Gone with the Wind, but none of the Hollywood soap operas are nearly as powerful as the real story of the Titanic.
Yeah, he didn't take anyone's spot, if he hadn't gotten in, there would just be one more death. But the rest of his life was pretty miserable and guilt ridden anyway. It is possible he told the captain to keep up the speed though, one witness claimed to have heard that.
@InternetDarkLord he wasn't crew though and had no role in the evacuation. Only able seamen manned the boats and officers directed the operation. Not that what he did was good for optics, though he reportedly did assist while aboard where he could, but had he stayed it simply would have been one more person dead.
@@taniaelliott4078 It depends. He might have gotten more passengers in the lifeboats if he stayed and searched for more, esp. in third class. At least it would have been a moral victory.
Considering that 300 was based on a comic book as opposed to actual history...
No, oh my God our future is fucked... Go read a fucking book
Not only that it's meant to be a propaganda piece for Sparta and against Persia since Dilios is the narrator of the story so of course he would portray their enemies as evil and inhuman.
If you want to find out how Persia was one of the greatest empires in human history, I suggest that you read 'The Histories' by the Greek writer Herodotus. In a time where being a stranger in a strange town could get you killed, Herodotus travelled the known world doing something even more lethal: asking questions. True, he is a bit gullible in places, but most of his information has been found to be the truth. The events featured in '300', weren't that far in the past when Herodotus made his enquiries. And no, there are no mentions of Orc like mutant Persians. They are as human as everyone else.
A comic book written by an openly fascistoid author no less.
@@AFMountaineer2000 That's a Thermian argument. 300 depicts both Persians and Spartans exactly as Miller and Snyder wanted them portrayed.
Yeah, I'm really gonna feel bad for Zuckerberg and his reputation.
One real life person who's reputation was badly damaged by a movie was Henry Hook VC, portrayed in the movie 'Zulu' as a malingering drunkard when in fact he was exactly the opposite, he was an exemplary soldier and a teetotaller, in fact he was a lay preacher, his portrayal in the movie was considered so offensive by his family that his daughters who had been invited to the premier actually walked out mid way through the movie.
When you consider the disparity between fiction and reality; Henry Hook should be in the top 3 at least.
I came here to say exactly this. How can you do a list like this and not do Zulu? I have to say, this was probably a case of throwing a dart at the list of names for which one would be the drunken bad soldier for their story and just by sheer bad luck landing on the morally upright guy who doesn't even drink. (Oh, and it's "whose" not "who's" for the possessive.)
Pvt Hook suffered from the Director deciding to add some Character Drama on top of the combat situation. I suspect he was chosen because of his name plus the fact that he "overcame his bad ways and earned a VC". I always felt sorry for the way he was portrayed. While I really do enjoy the movie, there were several issues with it. Most notably Pvt Hook, but also the two commanders were actually friends and had served together for some time - there was no drama between them.
The BBC. Did a much better job of the life of Alan Turing. In the 1996 called Breaking the code. It doesn’t hold back and Derik Jacobi is perfect casting
I personally think Richard Jewell life ruined by Kathy scruggs. In my opinion the man did his job and because she ran with a story and a narrative it destroyed his life. The man saved countless people with no one else would listen to him. And she decided to run the story that he was a person of interest even though the FBI had already ruled him out long before she ran with the narrative. Now her character bastardization of her character in the movie. That's one thing. But let's acknowledge she destroyed his reputation and career because she wanted the story. And never even apologized.
Yeah. I have no sympathy for the people who wrecked a hero’s life
@dearthditch nope, I agree with you.
I think the bigger problem is playing up the stereotype of Women using their sexuality to get ahead unfairly. There were lots of people who ruined Jewell's life and reputation (and of people like him.) Especially the Law enforcement involved who leaked irresponsibly based on speculation and stereotype (they mocked Jewell as a wannabe do-gooder). It did a lot of incidental damage to woman reporters generally.
Another movie that really should've been on this list was "Patch Adams". Dr. Hunter Adams was already having trouble with being taken seriously by the medical community due to his unorthodox approaches to medicine, but Robin Williams' depiction of him in the movie made the problems far worse. The movie made Dr. Adams look like an unstable joke.
Murdoch's family were NOT HAPPY with their family member's portrayal in "Titanic", for good reason!
The movie made a nominal donation to his foundation as an apology. A paltry amount considering how much the movie grossed. And money cannot repair a good man's name.
That's such a shame!
One thing I found interesting after the whole controversy over Titanic (1997) erupted was that the 1996 miniseries Titanic (with Catherine Zeta Jones) also depicted Mr. Murdock as shooting someone and then shooting himself in the head. Of course, few people saw that one, so it probably didn't bother the family as much, but it's funny that Cameron's film basically copied an unnecessarily controversial plot point from a much lesser previous film.
At least 2 survivors reported this incident. The problem is neither named Murdoch, and other officers went down with the ship. (Also, Cameron copied a lot of earlier movies!)
@@InternetDarkLordOthers say he fired into the air. Recollections vary.
Its not just the gunshot. Theres also the concept that he took a bribe during the sinking to load men into the boats. Or that he would take his own life. By all accounts, Murdoch was an efficent and dilligent crewman during the sinking and likely either froze or drowned like many others.
The fact the Scruggs died of a drug overdose makes it even murkier for her own story. I’d say the fact that they left that out of the movie indicates a level of respect for her. Besides, trading sex for information says more about her source than it does about her.
That didn't happen though. It's a lie that Eastwood made up to serve his right wing agenda of portraying media as corrupt, just as he made up lies in "Sully" to serve his right wing agenda of portraying government agencies as corrupt and incompetent and as he made up lies in "American Sniper" to serve his right wing agenda of hero worshipping violent soldier men and vigilantes.
It should say more about her sources, but which have you heard more. ‘He’s a disgrace he only helps/employs/casts women who sleep with him’ or ‘she’s a disgrace, she got where she did by sleeping her way there.’
Here's one. Astronaut Gus Grissom in "The Right Stuff." That movie is one of my favorites of all time but I know so much about the real life Mercury space program that I've learned all the false details. Gus Grissom was portrayed by Fred Ward as a crude foul mouthed, hothead who screwed up his spaceflight. Those who knew him have said he wasn't like that at all. He was cordial, respectful and rarely used harsh language. On the job he was a consummate professional and considered the best in-flight problem solver of the original seven. The movie failed to resolve accurately the loss of his capsule after splashdown from a faulty explosive mechanism on the hatch. The movie blamed Grissom, implying that he panicked and blew the hatch prematurely. But what wasn't shown was that when the pilot pressed the button, it would recoil causing the hand to smack the control panel and leave a tell-tale bruise. When he returned to the Cape, Wally Schirra asked Gus to show him his hand and when he saw no bruise realized Gus hadn't hit the button. But the inquiry board said those hatches had been thoroughly tested and not one had ever blown.
Gordo Cooper wasn't portrayed favourably either.
John Glen ran for President. He remarked something to the effect that if Reagan could become president in spite of the Bonzo movies, Glen could despite The Right Stuff.
@@brunozeigerts6379 I never thought Gordo Cooper was portrayed badly. In fact, they cleaned up his character a bit in the movie. When Trudy left him to go to her parents in San Diego, it wasn't from the strain of him being in such a dangerous occupation. In real life, she'd left him because he'd been cheating on her with fighter jock groupies. The movie only touched on that a little at the start when the girl at the bar tries to start a conversation with Yeager just as he's heading out to chase Glennis on horseback. In his book, Yeager commented how Pancho Barnes rarely had an empty cabin because of the girls renting them out when they bedded one of the pilots.
Well, you don't expect NASA to admit the hatch might blow off by itself at any moment, do you? They would be admitting the hatch might go off in orbit, dooming the astronaut. That would have ended Mercury and the space program. Grissom took the inference to preserve the program.
The reality of Grissom's abilities seems clear to me since he was tapped to lead off Gemini, and would have led off Apollo had NASA not been reckless with pure ixygen when it was not needed.
You don't have a bad PR source and panicky pilot keep going up, especially on the first flight.
Still, I don't think Grissom got "ruined" by the allegations, he kept his flight status and obviously the regard if his colleagues.
Everyone knows Mark Zuckerberg is really a synth. 😂
Zuckerborg 🤖
That’s just a conspiracy theory.
It’s a well established fact that Zuckerberg is a lizard person.
😁
Lightoller, on the other hand, was portrayed fairly accurately: stubbornly sticking to the letter of how he interpreted the “women and children first” instructions and not prioritizing filling lifeboats because he didn’t know they had been adequately tested for carrying weight in their davits during Titanic’s construction (only about 1/4 of those who survived were on lifeboats he oversaw).
That said, he was even worse than he was shown in the film: he openly showed contempt for civilian authority during both inquiries into the sinking and tried to deny the fact that Titanic had indeed received plenty of ice warnings leading up to the sinking.
Lightoller was defensive at the Titanic hearings, but he had to save his reputation and job, anybody would be defensive. (Lookout Fred Fleet was worse.) Eyewitnesses did say he was calm the night the ship sank, he is too panicky in the movie. And both officers Lightoller and Murdoch planned to fill the lifeboats, (Lightoller sent 7 men below to open a door to add more women and children.) But the lifeboats famously pulled away and their plan fizzled. Read his biography someday, whatever else you think of this guy, Lightoller had an epic life.
12:09 I always felt that William Murdoch just panicked (understandably) and when he realised what he’d done he shot himself out of shame and grief, NOT cowardice 🤷♀️
Except it was never proven he did this. Eyewitnesses didn't confirm it was him.
@@InternetDarkLord Either way I also agree with the poster above. The movie version was neither a coward nor a dishonorable man. Cameron could have left this reported act out completely or assigned it to another unconfirmed officer. The former would have avoided offending any descendants or family members.
If you haven't already, I would love to see you do a companion video about characters who were much more positively depicted on screen than their real-life counterparts deserved. That would include Captain Phillips, John Nash (A Beautiful Mind), Ruth Handler (Barbie), and Leigh Anne Tuohy (The Blind Side). Think it over!
What about Zulu? Otto Witt was presented like religious fanatic but in real life he just informed British troops about Zulu warriors. Or pvt Henry Hook who was model solder but presented as alcololic, criminal and rogue.
The Elephant Man is the first movie I remember seeing. I'm glad it's included here.
300 is based on a comic book so can hardly be called historically accurate
Ty Cobb in "Cobb". Although to be fair, the character assassination started in Al Stump's biography on which the movie was based.
My favorite Costner role is Mr. Brooks. That was a great movie!
The people of Dumfries and Galloway will not forgive Mr Cameron for defaming William Murdoch's reputation, he is not welcome in the area (especially his home-town of Dalbeattie) anymore. This was a MAJOR local scandal at the time. A few thousand quid is nothing.
Max Baer was wrongly portrayed in Cinderella Man.
Max was lethal in the ring, but outside the ring, he was a warm and caring man.
Good job exposing the truth.
His son who complained about his portrayal is Max Baer Jr! The original Jethro on THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES
It's a movie
@@mrhumble2937 Can't agree with that. For too many people this film would be the only time they hear of the man.
@@mrhumble2937 that's supposed to be based on real people.
There's a lot of nuance to Howard's depiction of Baer Sr. The real Max Baer was traumatized by the death of his opponent and would clown around in the ring and be more hesitant to engage in toe to toe. Howard subtly depicts that in the movie, though he made Baer more crass than he actually was.
The hate for the tuohy family came out of nowhere…. Also highly unwarranted
Depends on who you believe. Considering they never actually adopted Michael Oher but continually said they did in a manner that they knew would be taken literally it kind of brings all their behavior into question.
I liked how "Saving Mr. Banks" portrayed PL Travers as an arrogant shrew and Walt Disney as pushy and obnoxious. I also liked how "The Founder" portrayed Ray Kroc as fiercely motivated but also a ruthless asshole. Same director, come to think of it.
I heard that Saving Mr. Banks actually softened Travers who was actually a much more awful and bitter person in real life. :O
It reminded me of when I heard that Lawrence Fishbourne's dastardly portrayal of Ike Turner was commented on by people that knew the man who said it humanized him. Oy Vey.
Well Kroc basically stole McDonald's so he was an asshole lol
I didn't know anything about Michael Orr before watching the Blind Side but as I watched it I was uncomfortable with how they made him seem slow. To me it portrayed the white people as making him more like a trained puppy instead of him having any talent. I was surprised Sandra Bullock was ok with how it came across.
As much as I like SB as an actress
I don't think she spoke with MO before , during or after the movie was made. Only to the person she was portraying.
I couldn't finish the film. It made it seem as MO didn't really have talent in the sport until that family "gave" it to him.
Making one younger seem smarter than MO. It was sad
I wonder if the family ever said TY to all the money they made while destroying a person character.
I have a feeling mark zucherberg is a fairly accurate portrayal. 🤷♀️
As for Mr Murdoch (Titanic), I’ve NEVER thought of him as a murderer or a coward. I saw him as a good man dealing with extraordinary circumstances and doing his best. Shooting at the passengers whose panic was going to get a lot of people killed, was extreme, but it all happened in a matter of seconds and was just tragic all the way around.
Antonio Salieri in Amadeus
Mozart in Amadeus. For starters, his middle name was Gottlieb, not Amadeus.
@@InternetDarkLord Difficult to market movie named "Gottlieb."
Seems fair that Scruggs reputation got soiled for a change. Richard Jewell paid a hefty price, so I'd say that's poetic justice.
I'd argue that two wrongs don't make a right though, especially when the person isn't here to defend themselves anymore.
@@Braddicusfinch The problem with that thought is that there is no "right". There is no justice, no way to perfectly balance the scales after a wrong has been done. Either someone suffers too much or not enough. Sometimes the scales tip one way, sometimes the other. Once something has been broken, it can never be whole in the way it was before which would be the only true justice.
How much did Zuckerberg pay you to praise him like that?? 😂
My favourite Kevin Costner role was Elliot Ness in the Untouchables although that film also can't be described as Historically accurate
It doesn't help that Kathy Scruggs is played by Olivia Wilde
I would add Braveheart to this list as well, for their full blown character assassination of Andrew de Moray, who was in-fact a great asset to the independence fight rather than traitor. Having been part of it well before Wallace ever turned up and never having betrayed the great trust he had with Wallace, the two were somewhat of a dynamic duo. Saying this as someone who comes from the same village in Scotland as de Moray, we are very proud of him as a local historical figure and Braveheart may as well be banned in my home town because of how they treated him.
Is that who the character of Mornay was supposed to be? Because if so that makes it even worse than leaving him out altogether.
The lesson to take away from all this? MOVIES SHOULD NOT BE USED AS HISTORY LESSONS!
They did not need to portray Kathy Scruggs the way they did in the film. All they needed to do was to just show her as she really was to show how much of a horrible human being she truly was. She never cared about facts. She only cared about getting a story. If she ruined lives, didn't matter to her.
But a reporter who worked with her did mention that she hinted that she slept with an fbi guy. Might have been joking but for people to be an uproar and act like she was a beacon of light, no.
She still ruined someone life and likely drove him into an early grave. So no sympathy from me.
@@welcometothemovies9157thank you. i distinctly recall one of her colleagues saying that. She destroyed the reputation of a man who should have been hailed as a hero. Screw her and her legacy
My favorite costner role is "perfect world".
Absolutely. It's an overlooked gem which considering it was directed by Clint Eastwood is a bit baffling
Don't forget Coach Dan Devine in "Rudy". He was portrayed as the villain in the movie, when he was the hero in real life. He didn't oppose Rudy's dressing with the team, he actually encouraged it.
I accept the Imitation Games flawed portrayal of Dennison but we have to admit, Charles Dance can play an all time great villain!
Dare I say his Tywin Lannister is actually so good it’s in league with Darth Vader?
Mark Strong can play a damned good villain too!!!
300 is based off a graphic novel, if you want a more historically accurate depiction of war between Greece and Persia watch Alexander, though it is considerably less entertaining.
Criminal is my favorite Costner role and one of his best movies in my opinion.
It takes a lot to be offended by the depiction of an Empire that has not existed in thousands of years. Iran is not Persia!
True, but the movie is still wrong about a great civilization.
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That’s why it’s not offering itself as a documentary nor a biopic. It’s not even offered up a a historical drama. It’s based on a comic book!
@@drstevej2527 Well it might have the "honesty of a blatant lie."
The portrayal of Ayman Abu Aita as a "real terrorist " in Brüno landed him real life death threats. He's a Palestinian christian shopkeeper and member of Fatah.
let me find the world's smallest violin to play a sad song for Mark Zuckerberg. SMH
I don’t think Zuck’s reputation was affected
But they still made Eduardo look like a hero when he was just as crooked as Zuckerberg
Favourite Costner performance: John Dutton in Yellowstone
My favorite Kevin Costner role was in "3,000 Miles To Graceland"
a predecessor to TITANIC, A NIGHT TO REMEMBER, painted Second Officer Lightoller as the hero, when he killed numerous people by default when he sent away lifeboats with up to a third of places unoccupied.
He planning to add more people (and so did Murdoch.) But the lifeboats panicked and pulled away.
I had to give a small history lesson when my mom and her friends were talking about Zack Snyder's 300. They loved the abs AND also believed this was historically accurate. So far as admiring how some middle eastern and Hindu men are gigantic and look like demigods.😂😂🤣🤣
I saw Titanic in the theater 3 times. I never thought Murdock was a coward or a bad guy. I always thought he was petrified to the point of breaking and his shooting the passengers and then ultimately himself was the result of that break. A coward? No. But a frightened person on the brink of imminent icy death? 100%
Except nobody is sure if Murdoch really killed anybody. It might have been a different officer.
My ex-roommate researched John Merrick in preparation for portraying Dr. Treves in the play. He told me that it was really Carr-Gomm, Sir John Gielgud's character, who went to the mat for Merrick, not Treves.
I don't think Zuck should really be complaining about "realism" in the movie, there's so many things they could've brought up
As for favorite Costner film, I can't' really think of one of his films I just like to watch repeatedly. He's always a solid performer, but his movies just aren't like that. I guess ironically, I'd have to say Highwaymen as I really did like the fact that it depicted Bonnie and Clyde like a couple of petty, nasty murderous thugs like they really were instead of some folk heroes. It made that ambush overkill really feel well earned. I also really liked the gun shop scene. Kind of an earlier (chronologically) version of the scene in The Terminator.
I actually don't have much time for Kevin Costner.
He has an annoying drawl, he comes across as pretentious and I haven't loved any of the films he has been in.
The biggest thing is the lie he continually spun, where he said that there was going to be a "Bodyguard 2", where his character from the first movie was going to protect a character played by- wait for it- Princess Diana.
Princess Diana, who had never acted before, was apparently going to star in the sequel. Scenes were to include a shower sex scene between her and Costner.
Costner said that the ONLY reason that Diana didn't do it was because she was killed in the Paris car crash soon after.
Costner spins this story, again and again, yet not one other person has ever verified it. Aside from the fact Diana couldn't act, even if she wanted to stick it to the Royal Family by doing a movie and having a sex scene in it, she wouldn't have done it anyway, because she was very protective of her image to her boys, William and Harry.
The fact that Costner keeps repeating this story, when Diana is not here to deny it, speaks volumes about his character.
I mean The Imitation Game screwed over Alan Turing more than just ignoring his sexuality. I know Cumberbatch thinks he knows what autism is because he met autistic kids when preparing to play Frankenstein’s creature, but what he did to Turing’s character was awful, nothing like the way he’s described by people who know him and nothing like the way autistic adults who mask, because they have to behave.
My favourite review of The Imitation Game’s accuracy said that they were right there was a man called Alan Turing and WW2 happened, that was about it.
Funny 300 is on here. Who knew an American film would upset people in Iran.
I'm pretty sure he still exploited Merrick
Yes, Zuckerberg the "human being".
Wait, wait wait! What do you mean, Zuckerberg, "the human being?"
My favourite Costner performance is his role in Yellowstone
Hahahahaha you got wrestling mentioned!
Nice
Great so you basically took the video you published 3 days ago "10 Movie Biopics That Lied To Your Face" and took 50% of its content to make this one? How original.
Oher is broke and bitter. And now a crybaby.
Considering his "adoptive" family never actually adopted him like they claimed, he has a point.
Hmmm, what an eloquent statement from Oher. Certainly dismissed any suspicions that he was dumb! 🤣
The one that pisses me off is Sully. Clint Eastwood lied about the NTSB investigation, and the findings and attitude of lead investigator Robert Benzon. In the film, the NTSB claimed that simulator testing showed the NTSB was right in criticizing Sully's decision...when in reality they agreed Sully made the right choice, and their testing confirmed that.
Eastwood made up the antagonism and short-sightedness of Robert Benzon to turn him and the NTSB into the villain. In a fictional story that's fine, but not in one about real people.
Forgot the Judge that switched Jury’s in The Untouchables Movie 1987. It said he did it because he was on the take and forced by Eliot Ness. He was a hero that did it for Justice in real life.
Were these documentaries, I could understand the high dudgeon. But they are fictional versions of history, obviously warped for entertainment value and time constraints. On the other hand, producers might be wise to choose fictitious IDs for their villainous characters if the portrayals stray from verifiable fact.
Its hard to believe that Zuckerburgs portrayal in the social network ruined his reputation, when virtually every real life appearance hes ever made comes off as far worse. Personally, id argue, that Eisenbergs version makes him a more human and relateable person than he actually is
Salieri in Amadeus
Mozart in Amadeus
To be fair, they were staying true to Frank Miller's racist epic.
I'm shocked WokeCulture led off this piece by defending a reporter. A reporter who, by the way, lied about a story and ruined a man's life and wouldn't back down when called out on it.
I'm sure they referenced that Atlanta Magazine piece where they, hilariously, tell how she beat the cops to a murder scene and breaks into the house by crawling through a back window and, get this, the COPS LOVED AND RESPECTED HER FOR IT! No. No, they didn't. If that had happened on my scene she would have been in handcuffs for burglary and obstruction. This is just another episode of the media holding itself in some self-reverential light.
WokeCulture can't have journalism or the media shown to be what it actually is - the propaganda arm of the progressive Left.
Glad you included Max Baer.
For the next list like this, please include Dan Devine in "Rudy". In reality it was Devine's idea to dress Rudy for that game and all that stuff about players refusing to play if Rudy doesn't is pure embellishment that made Devine look like a jerk.
Moneyball did an absolute disservice to manager Art Howe
Fun fact, the one liners in 300 were the most accurate thing in the movie.
Mr. Brooks
My favorite Costner movie was Revenge.
Really? You think the Persian Empire needs defending? That entrey is asanin.
My favorite Kevin Costner film would be The Postman Dances with Wolves in Waterworld 11 hour super cut.
This proves that some people just take things way too seriously. Ive seen most of these and never once did I think they were entirely historically accurate, nor did it change my opinions of any of the people in that. Mostly because I didnt care, but also because I understood it was just a movie. The only instance where I think I mildly cared was the Michael Jackson/Jackson 5 biopic movie that I saw when I was a kid, and even then I didnt care enough that I had their dad living rent free in my head.
When I saw Titanic, I was so bored and just did not like any character. I wound up cheering for the iceberg. Anyone else feel that way?
Were you bored by the fictional love plot? A lot of Titanic fanatics hated it.
@InternetDarkLord the whole movie was boring to me until the iceberg hit.
@@TheRennDawg Well, the 1996 minseries was even worse!
@@InternetDarkLord i didn't know there was a miniseries. Then again, I spent most of 1996 at sea, ironically, serving in the Navy.
@@TheRennDawg You didn't miss much, only watch drunk.
It’s hilarious that people think “history” is at all accurate. History is told by people who want to make it so.
10 Movies That Glorified Real-Life Jerks
First movie to add to list
A Beautiful Mind
Having seen the weirdness of the real Mark Zuckerberg, I think Jesse's performance brought too much depth.
Michael Oher has some points, but he is also wrong. The movie did not hurt his career at all. He had 8 years, which is *way* over the 3-4 year average for an NFL o-line pkayer. Especially left tackle, the spot requiring the most agility. A left tackle who starts to lose a step as his hips and knees age has a very limited shelf life unless he manages to transition to the right side.
He had an exceptional career, but pro sports careers are rarely long ones, especially for the big linemen.
Including Oher in this is pretty questionable, given that the nature of his complaints revolve around a not-atypical-for-a-pro-athlete inflated view of his playing level. He was a high draft pick and had a rock solid career, but he never took the star turn his upside suggested he could have. He never got a huge contract after his rookie deal ended, and would be far from the first NFL player to think he deserved a star deal that he didn't receive (and thus has gone looking for blame). There has been some funny stuff between him and the family that helped him recently too, and while of course a film isn't going to be totally accurate I think complaints in his case are inflated.
Say what you want about "300", I did learn a historical fact from this movie; that being, Spartans seemed to keep their bodies waxed and oiled. Or was that just in keeping with the theme of this homoerotic extravaganza?
So Kathy Scruggs had done to her what she did to Richard Jewell, except Scruggs was dead and didn't have to actually live it. Don't feel sorry for her one bit. Her article was the primary reason Jewell's life became a living hell and she never apologized for it. Also the fact she died of a drug overdose points to the fact she wasn't exactly the angel people kept claiming she was after the movie came out.
The distorted view in the Elephant Man of the showman was only one instance of a consistent class bias in Lynch's film. The upper and middle classes are typically portrayed as sensitive and caring, while the poorer characters are typified as brutish. The howling mob that pursues Merrick on his return to Liverpool Street staion is utterly imaginary. Merrick was not kidnapped from the care of surgeon Frederick Treves during their first contact. He was simply examined by Treves as a curiosity and sent on his way. And it was Treves who could not even get his "patient's" name right; it was Treves who kept calling him called him John, a name he never went🎉 by.
Don't both with Treves' self-serving and inaccurate memoir shown in the video. Instead, the most detailed, impartial and historically accurate book is "The True History of the Elephant Man" by Michael Howell and Peter Ford.
My favorite Kevin Costner character was Saul Goodman
LOL, I'm so happy they brought that quip to life in Better Call Saul. They did such a good job tying up all of the threads.
Saul gets kidnapped by Heisenberg and Jesse and says "It was Ignacio! Did Lallo send you" back in his first episode on Breaking Bad. Took a whole series to tie that one up.
@@TonyHammitt exactly. Vince Gilligan is one of the best writers of our era.
Zuckerberg, human? That's a stretch.
K Costner best roll imo definitely Mr Brooks.
Oher had a .76 GPA it’s not the movies fault if people think he’s dumb. Him struggling in school was not made up for the film
Well it's dumb to think that struggling in school is an indication of person's intelligence so, nope, not the movies fault as apparently those people went into it stupid.
Movies ARE NOT biographies unless otherwise stated
Not quite sure you know what "fan the flames" means.
The bodyguard
guess given knew the history of most of these films since saw them will not watch them again
Filmmakers have always taken artistic license with stories based on historical events and people. The real problem is that film watchers see the phrase, "based on a true story" and then go on to believe the movie is mostly true. With "Titanic," after the movie came out it became a thing for superfans to visit the real life cemeteries where bodies were interred. By sheer coincidence there was a Titanic victim whose headstone in Newfoundland reads "J. Dawson." Naturally the fans think that's the guy who Leonardo DiCaprio's character was based on.
The fact is, real life is boring, so you have to "jazz" up someone's image.
If these movies were really true, we would see these characters eating breakfast or going to the toilet.
@@dhenderson1810 If you find the Titanic boring, what is dramatic?
Whato all,
I'm sorry I cannot give this video a like as, for some strange reason, the narration has background music. This is annoying and deflects from the, otherwise, entertaining content.
Apart from the terrible thing Titanic did, what I also hate about it is the fact that James Cameron thought, 'Oh the sinking of Titanic isn't dramatic enough, so I'm going to make up two fictional people (yes there were people called Jack and Rose on the ship but not those people), have them fall in love and one of them die so that the audience will feel so terribly sad about it. I find it so distasteful.
I feel two ways about this. People have the right to create historical fiction like War and Peace or Gone with the Wind, but none of the Hollywood soap operas are nearly as powerful as the real story of the Titanic.
@@InternetDarkLord If he had created a fictional man to go down that path of self destruction, then it would have felt different...
This happened to Bruce Ismay also. He was seen helping ton of woman and kids. He didn't sneak in lifeboat. There was extra room so he took spot.
Yeah, he didn't take anyone's spot, if he hadn't gotten in, there would just be one more death. But the rest of his life was pretty miserable and guilt ridden anyway. It is possible he told the captain to keep up the speed though, one witness claimed to have heard that.
Many people were offended he got off before all the passengers did. Most crew stayed at their posts to the end.
@InternetDarkLord he wasn't crew though and had no role in the evacuation. Only able seamen manned the boats and officers directed the operation. Not that what he did was good for optics, though he reportedly did assist while aboard where he could, but had he stayed it simply would have been one more person dead.
@@taniaelliott4078 It depends. He might have gotten more passengers in the lifeboats if he stayed and searched for more, esp. in third class. At least it would have been a moral victory.
Bull Durham meat
Fig-yours
Not fig-ers
Xerxes and the Persians got better treatment in hte Bible.
WhatCulture commentator Ewan was defamed by not being allowed to host this video. Apologize now!