10 Movie Franchises That Destroyed Themselves With ONE Decision
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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Gremlins 2 is so fuckin good!
Yes it is, friend!
Absolutely! It also came out during that era when parent groups were pressuring studios to tone down kids movies (Ghostbusters 2, TMNT 2, etc)
Fucking Good indeed
If you wanted to boil down Star Wars many creative misfires to one decision it was this…not finding a great director with an original vision to do the whole trilogy.
yes, that was the biggest problem at the end of the day, there was no plan, they were just making it up as they went long.
That would have been nice. You could tell George Lucas was out of ideas by the time "Return of the Jedi" was released. I mean, c'mon! The Death Star? Again?! 🙄
The first trilogy had three directors. I don't want people with original visions to make Star Wars. Lucas didn't even have an original vision. What makes Star Wars the greatest story ever told is that it's completely unoriginal.
@@redrick8900 star wars isnt even remotly close to being "the greatest story ever told"
@@gregsmw Well reality contradicts your belief.
The whole issue with killing John Connor as a kid is that it makes absolutely no sense. If he is killed, how can future John Connor ever send anyone back to protect Sarah/John. It means there is no future John🤦♂️
You forgot the offscreen deaths of Newt and Hicks in Alien3. The franchise has never recovered, IMHO.
Ummm Expendables 3 grossed over 200 mill. Expendables 4 didn’t even touch 40 million. How do you screw up a fact that bad ?
Jurassic World Dominion using Maizie's origin as the main plot instead of using dinosaurs.
Gremlins 2 is better than the original. The decision to make the film with a more satirical tone is what makes it so fun to watch.
I liked the darker tone of the original "Gremlins".
That is funny about Sin City's cast availability, since some of them either died or was on maternity leave, and they could not even get Clive Owen back as Dwight. The mistake they made was making another installment to the film.
It’s been stated that wasn’t the Blair which it was a form it took yall even said it before in a video😂😂😂
Star War problem wasn’t it letting go of the past. It was disrespecting the past films and ruined the opportunity to use all three actors when they were available.
I agree and disagree…..I really truly disliked that in “episode 6” we saw our heroes victorious and the empire at an end - but then 30-50 years later, we see them as shells of themselves in “episode 7”…..but at the same time, I’m sure in that timeframe our heroes just weren’t entertaining either - especially if they ended up where they did in “episode 7”……..I feel the biggest issue to me is that they called it a sequel trilogy yet it wasn’t focused around our heroes at all - it felt more like a spinoff than a proper sequel.
Not to mention using Rei as the main hero not Finn
Star Wars problem was a toxic fanbase of immature adult men who try to not focus on their empty lives by caring too much about a bunch of movies and acting like it is more important than anything, and getting over the top offended that the movie doesn't match their own fan fiction that they form in their otherwise empty heads.
Most SW fans are whiny bitches who don't argue in good faith and prefer to send death threats to directors and actors of a movie series. You are a laughing stock to everyone else. You are the movie version of "deplorables". You should all go touch grass.
What about the Jurassic World trilogy? The inclusion of locusts in Dominion and human cloning in Fallen Kingdom pretty much took away the main thing that was always the focus and draw for audiences when watching the film series and that’s the dinosaurs.
Wait, Kinberg wrote Last Stand AND Dark Phoenix?
WTF? No one bothered to AT LEAST tell him the story in between the 2 movies?
HOW? WHY? WHAT?
I have a few:
Pirates, Indiana Jones, and Transformers: Continuing after the third movie. They all had perfect finales but their legacies, especially Transformers, were destroyed by two sequels that sucked and killed the franchises.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Michael Bay. The second one with him was good but the first one was okay. They could've possibly been better if he wasn't involved.
DCEU: Rushing Josstice League. They should've taken their time and introduced all the heroes in a better way before teaming them up.
Indiana Jones never had a finale. 4 and 5 are every bit as good as 2 and 3. Pirates 4 and 5 are much better than 3.
@@redrick8900 What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. There's a reason the Last Crusade is called The LAST Crusade. Pirates 3 was the Endgame of the 2000s and 4 and 5 just sh** all over that movie's legacy.
@@KadenJ-ie1ji Well you didn't hear it. You read it.
"There's a reason the Last Crusade is called The LAST Crusade."
Yeah, because it's about a crusade and it's the last one. No one ever said it was going to be the last movie.
Pirates 3 is total crap and it's nothing like Endgame. It didn't even make as much as the second movie. It's so bad it made Pirates 2 bad by association.
You did a great job of making one of us look idiotic.
@@redrick8900 I do kinda get your view on The Last Crusade but that Pirates 3 opinion is so idiotic. Are you stuck in 2007? What about what I said about Transformers? Do you agree on that?
@@KadenJ-ie1ji What? "2007?" Is that the last time people knew what they were talking about with movies?
Transformers sucked from the first movie on.
Pirates 3 is objectively bad. They kill off the big monster from 2 between movies. The navel combat is an assault on reason. It's absolutely the worst pirate movie I've ever seen. Ice Pirates and Yellowbeard eat it's lunch.
Wasn't it recently announced within the past year that there's actually a fourth Brendan Fraser Mummy movie in the works?
Thankfully, Terminator Zero's answer to which continuity is canon is "yes".
Warriors Of Virtue 2 Return To Tao Being Greenlit In the first place and I loved the original film honestly but It's on dailymotion so can watch It anytime I want
Didn’t even know there was a sequel to Warriors of Virtue.
…i feel like gremlins 1 & 2 share the same tone though .
The 2018 Halloween franchise had a chance until they ruined it with Halloween Kills and Halloween Ends
Honestly don’t get the hate with Kills that much but I haven’t seen Ends yet I’ve never heard anything good and it sounded like a piece of shit and disrespectful to Micheal Myers and just lame af tbh
Not having Josh Brolin turn into Clive Owen was what broke sin city 2 for me.
And the fact that it sucked
"Clive Warren"
-Karl Pilkington
Sinister 2 making the comic relief character from the original movie the main character and toning it down to a PG-13 rating.
Expendables 3 was PG-13 because Chuck Norris demanded it be so.
I believe you are confusing the second and third movies. Chuck Norris agreed to appear in the second movie on the condition that they removed all the profanity from the script.
He doesn't appear in the third movie.
BLADE.
The TERMINATOR series should’ve just ended after T2. T3 was okay. Not terrible but not excellent either.
For me, Terminator deciding to pretend the other sequels didn't exist is what killed it. It's just lazy. Instead of writing a story to correct any missteps, you just pretend it didn't happen. Killing of John Conner could work in the right story.
Independence Day 2 suffered more from changing the pacing and not giving anyone time to shine, then it did from not having Will Smith. I rewatched it a few days ago and unlike the first that took place over a couple days and let you see the effects it was having. Part 2 seems to happen in like 12 hours (an assumption as it's not really stated) where they did not give any character buildup at all.
I'll still never understand the hype behind Blair Witch. I am surprised that this list went after the 3rd entry and not the 2nd as Book of Shadows is often the one people dump on. But making it a real horror movie and not the idiotic found footage style.
I would add another terrible decision for X-Men is their insistence on doing the Dark Phoenix story. It's not a story that can be done in one or 2 movies. It was a huge comic book event that spanned over a year. They would need to build up to it over a few movies before taking it on.
LEGO Ninjago was a niche sub-brand that not everyone was familiar with over the more generic "LEGO" itself. That probably didn't help with audience appeal.
What I didn't like with "Gremilns 2" was that they could have had Gremlins invade Times Square, the Empire State Building and the Statue Of Liberty. Instead it was contained inside a building.
Also the Gremilns were more joky and less menacing, it was more comedy than horror (maybe to market it more to families), it wasn't as dark as the first one (people died in the original) and Gizmo was missing for over half the movie.
Was Will Smith's character that beloved in "Independence Day"?
I don't remember all these raves for him when the film was out.
Besides, I bet Will Smith's brand dropping would have hurt any future ID4 sequels anyway.
Killing John Connor was the smart move. Changing the future problems, etc. This was the way.
Whether that was liked or 😢 Fate lost out because after 3 lacklustre and not well liked "Terminator 3" attempts, the audience was lost & "out" by the time Dark Fate came out.
They killed off John Connor because Edward Furlong was unavailable to appear in lost of the movie.
What other way should John Connor had been written out?
Disney listened to the very loud minority with Star Wars. Last Jedi may have been divisive, but the majority of the audience (as every verifiable metric showed) were just fine with it, and messing with its story for the TROS caused far more problems.
Sounds like several of these are really "the studio expected too much money." I mean, you cannot genuinely expect ANY sequel to Blair Witch to match the original's profitability.
Fun fact:
Simon Kinberg was the one who pitched Matthew Vaughn to direct FIRST CLASS
I fall asleep every time I watch Gareth’s videos at normal speed.
Independence Day 2 didn’t fail because Will Smith’s character was killed off. It failed because it was a terrible script that even Smith wouldn’t have been able to save.
…how come you never bring up black films ?
The taken series reducing it to a 12/15 original was an 18 and a superior film
Expendables 4 killed for me
The Sin City sequel was HORRIBLE what are you smoking?😤
Xmen fan. Always
Gareth doesn't know how to do chapters. Oof.
Doesn’t want to.
Terminator dark fate hast its problems yet i still think it s not half as bad as genisys. I didnt mind Connors death either.
Disney was the mistake for star wars
Terminator Zero thawed out the franchise and no Connor's in sight!
Rise of Skywalker was just a weak attempt of damage control, The Last Jedi already ruined the Sequels
Faxs 📠
Star Wars hiring Rian Johnson. Turned one of the biggest franchieses in the world into a fractured mess which has now spent years in decline as a result. The Force awakens was generally received well even though its a greatest hits. The rise of skywalker is tthe result of Johnsons pig headed selfish attitude.
Incredibly stupid take. The Last Jedi is by far the best movie out of everything post the original trilogy and Star Wars is doing just fine as a franchise.
@@dallasisgood you should really sober up before posting your comments online
@@DW3010 thanks for chiming in with your your 1950’s joke book
@@dallasisgoodTLJ is garbage, Rian Johnson just wanted to be the ultimate troll and destroy Star Wars
@@dallasisgood agreed. People didn't like it because it wasn't what they predicted. But if it was, then it would be loathed for being derivative. So much of Star Wars Fandom is so fickle
Underworld blood wars
Star wars is dead RIP
Yeah, giving Rian Johnson accolades for The Last Jedi was enough to get me to stop watching this.
Alternate opinion - Independence Day Resurgence did NOT miss Will Smith but the problem was the shocking failure of green screen throughout, that the viewer could always see the join (So one could easily see that it was a group of actors on a small stage in front of a screen where the aliens / action was showing)
Dark Fate is much better than any Terminator sequel after 2. It didn't make money because the previous two movies drove people away.
Dark Fate was woke garbage
@@ToucanSonofSam333 Okay misogynist.
Already Terminator 3's atrocious ending ended my desire to see any more of that franchise tbh.
Atrocious? The ending of T3 was the best part of the film
@@rorylynch7775No doubt about it, the ending alone made the film tolerable for me.
Ending was one of the best parts
Dark Fate. Isn’t it possible that the timeline was fucked with so much that it ended up with a wild reality?
Killing John was a bold move that could’ve worked. The movie just sucked
@@captaingroot5812 The movie is fine, much better than most of the sequels.
Star Wars was a lousy film to begin with
You know it really was. They played like it was just hodge podge together. and every sequel had to do the same because there wasn't a solid foundation. The Rise of Skywalker is just the last in a long chain of "meh" movies
Terminator fears fate mistake was the director telling most of the fan base to not watch it
Killing John Connor renewed my interest and excitement in the franchise, and as far as I'm concerned, it IS the best film in the franchise.
Yooo!!! What great timing to be first Baby!!!😂🎉❤
First loser maybe
Blair Witch was a decent movie until the end, when it completely fell apart into an utter joke.
Yeah, I would rather be forced to watch the Star Wars Christmas Special for 24 hours without stop than ever watch Rise of Skywalker again.
Sorry, no, Sin City 2 IS a bad movie 🤷♀️
Thanks For this ❤❤❤
Simon Kinberg might not be a good writer
But you can bet that he's a great producer
It was because of him that we got "First Class", "Deadpool" and "Logan"
And not to mention "The Martian" too
Plus, I found his direction in "Dark Phoenix" pretty solid
At least he was able to give the movie an identity of its own rather than trying to replicate Bryan Singer's style like Brett Ratner did
Will Smith was the worst part of Independence Day I'm glad he didn't even make it into the second
Funny how it flopped cus he wasn’t in it goofball shut up😂
Wrong with 10. Killing john Connor was great